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The Rookie Scout: Round 7

Published by Barron Von Crow on

Barron Von Crow

The time has come people. Our very first rookies have been plumped up and well fed and ready to be sent to the market.

Sure, some of them are a bit skinnier than we’d like, but these are lean times and we have to make do with what we’re given.

On the plus side, there still appears to be a few quality rookie downgrade options available, Collingwood fans, if you take one thing out of this year let it be the thanks of the entire fantasy football community for making Josh Smith and Mason Cox available to us at this point of the year.

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MIDFIELDERS

Callum Mills

SC Price: $335,700 | AF Price: $313,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,900
Round 6 Stats: 17 disposals, 1 mark, 5 rebound 50’s, 70 SCPoints, 60 AFPoints, 79 CKPoints

Mills continues to provide what we want from rookies with decent scores and continuing to generate cash, though his SC score of 70 was his lowest since Round 3. His BE is 33 coming into Round 7, that’s low enough that you can leave him for at least another fortnight before you consider doing anything with him.

Darcy Parish

SC Price: $331,100 | AF Price: $359,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,100
Round 6 Stats: 11 disposals, 2 goals, 3 tackles, 65 SCPoints, 47 AFPoints, 68 CKPoints,

We’ll definitely take the 2 goals from Parish, but the 11 disposals kept his score fairly low. Amazingly, that was the first time that Parish has had below 20 possessions for a game, which is a pretty fair effort for a rookie player.  His BE is now at 75, which is exactly what his Supercoach average currently sits at. I’d probably feel decently confident about holding Parish and him hitting that BE since he has had scores of 97, 83 and 83 over Rounds 2-4, though he’s had his two lowest scores of the year in the last two rounds. Weigh up your priorities, but he’d be near the bottom of my list for this week.

FORWARDS

Connor Menadue

SC Price: $220,500 | AF Price: $245,000 | CoachKings Price: $3,800
Featured CoachKings Contest: Friday, Richmond VS Hawthorn   
Round 6 Stats: 13 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 50 SCPoints, 50 AFPoints, 60 CKPoints

His BE is 41, which you’d think would be achievable, but he’s yo-yo’d between scores in the 30’s and scores in the 50’s over the past 4 weeks. The Tigers have been 52 flavours of awful this year, so it’s hard to single out just Menadue since he was only drafted in 2014, but we’ll definitely need to start thinking about what we’ll do with Menadue. He’s dirt cheap in CoachKings, but hasn’t been producing a ton of scores and I can’t imagine what he’d score against the Hawks on Friday night.

Sam Kerridge

SC Price: $346,800 | AF Price: $413,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,900
Featured CoachKings Contest: Saturday, Collingwood VS Carlton
Round 6 Stats: 19 disposals, 10 marks, 4 tackles, 2 clearances, 3 inside 50’s, 65 SCPoints, 91 AFPoints, 61 CKPoints

Pretty much nothing but uncontested possessions for Kerridge last week, with 15 disposals and all 10 of his marks being on the uncontested variety. That’s probably the big reason for the discrepancy between his Supercoach and AFL Fantasy scores. His BE is just 23, so no need to think about moving the Kedge on yet and he should make a decent pick in CoachKings… BUT.. there is some chatter around the traps that he may miss this weekend because of General Bloody Soreness. Hold.. but this will test our depth!

Ben Kennedy

SC Price: $295,900 | AF Price: $319,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,800
Round 6 Stats: 18 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 6 inside 50’s, 69 SCPoints, 68 AFPoints, 60 CKPoints

The goals have dried up for Kennedy and so have his SC scores. He had 4 goals over his first two games where he averaged 110 SCPoints, in the next 4 games he has kicked just 1 goal and is averaging 59 SCPoints. His disposal averages are down too, from 21 in the first fortnight to just 17 over his next 4 games. His BE is 51 this week, which he should hit, but with a few guys on the bubble, he might be one you definitely look to move out this week.

Tom Papley

SC Price: $245,000 | AF Price: $279,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,200
Round 6 Stats: 15 disposals, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 3 inside 50’s, 64 SCPoints, 61 AFPoints, 62 CKPoints

Papley has started to round back into some decent form after looking like an absolute disaster for those who traded him in for Round 3. His SC average over the last fortnight is 71, which is a pretty good return for a rookie forward. BE of 2 means you should be able to carry him through to the bye rounds.

Mitch McGovern

SC Price: $261,700 | AF Price: $264,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,800
Featured CoachKings Contest: Saturday, Western Bulldogs VS Adelaide
Round 6 Stats: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 46 SCPoints, 55 AFPoints, 61 CKPoints

It looked like he might have injured himself at one point last week, but McGovern came back on and ended up playing 75% ToG. There just wasn’t much happening up forward for the Crows with the Dockers pushing extra players back to try and strangle the game and prevent any free flowing footy from occurring. The Crows have the Bulldogs this week and if last years Elimination Final is anything to go by it’s going to be another shootout. Big chance for McGovern to kick a few goals there and should easily hit his BE of 35 and produce a good score in CoachKings.

Lincoln McCarthy

SC Price: $282,500 | AF Price: $248,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,200
Round 6 Stats: 9 disposals, 1 mark, 3 tackles, 44 SCPoints, 37 AFPoints, 31 CKPoints

Probably the only Geelong forward who wasn’t able to get a piece of Geelong’s dominance over the Gold Coast last week, but he only played 57% ToG, so his opportunities were limited. With them having dropped him earlier in the year to rest him due to all his previous injuries I’m sure the Cats saw this as a decent opportunity to give him a bit of a rest, so they can keep him fresh for this week. So hopefully that pays off for us and he gets a big score this week!

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DEFENDERS

Jacob Weitering

SC Price: $338,400 | AF Price: $290,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,600
Featured CoachKings Contest: Saturday, Collingwood VS Carlton
Round 6 Stats: 8 disposals, 2 marks, 23 SCPoints, 28 AFPoints, 19 CKPoints

The bad news here is Weitering is likely to be out for 2-3 weeks with a shoulder injury, and with such a low score over the weekend it’s pushed his BE up to 114. There is a good side to this at least, which is if you do have him, while you’ll need to trade him out, the fact that he won’t be playing means you do have a couple of weeks to go and take care of other priorities (like the guy below) first should you need to. I wouldn’t bet on him beating that BE upon return, but don’t go feel like you MUST trade him out this week either, especially if you have a few cherry ripe rookies elsewhere.

Matthew Dea

SC Price: $296,900 | AF Price: $300,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,400
Round 6 Stats: 12 disposals, 1 mark, 1 inside 50, 39 SCPoints, 38 AFPoints, 54 CKPoints

I remembered some quote about if things didn’t end badly they wouldn’t end at all when thinking of Dea, then I googled it and found out it was from that awful Tom Cruise movie Cocktail and I thought “why the heck did I bother remembering anything from that piece of trash?”. But I digress. Dea has absolutely obliterated his season for us with scores of 41and 39 SCPoints over his last fortnight. He has lost some cash this week and his BE is 94, so that means you got to get him out of your side if you have him.

Marcus Adams

SC Price: $342,400 | AF Price: $330,000 | CoachKings Price: $8,800
Round 6 Stats: 12 disposals, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 63 SCPoints, 53 AFLPoints, 93 CKPoints

He started off strong, but Adams has started to cool down a bit, particularly after the Bulldogs lost Murphy, Johannisen and Suckling to injury. He’s done pretty well for us though, he’s earned 225K so far and has a BE of 58, so should add another 15-20K to that again. Might be nearing his time, but he’s served us well.

Darcy Byrne-Jones

SC Price: $273,300 | AF Price: $251,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,400
Featured CoachKings Contest: Sunday, Port Adelaide VS Brisbane (SA Venues ONLY)
Round 6 Stats: 16 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 70 SCPoints, 66 AFPoints, 67 CKPoints

He’s already gained 145K in cash and has another price rise of 42K on the cards thanks to a BE of -13. Keep pluggin’ away with him.

Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti

SC Price: $309,500 | AF Price: $290,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,100
Round 6 Stats: 12 disposals, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 53 SCPoints, 41 AFPoints, 53 CKPoints

Walla’s time is coming up it would seem, with a BE of 64 and a season average of 71, if you don’t trade him this week you may need to next week. He’s done a good job for us though, 200K in cash, easy enough to cash him in and boost his teammate Matty Dea or someone else up.

RUCKS

Mason Cox

SC Price: $117,300 | AF Price: $171,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,300
Featured CoachKings Contest: Saturday, Collingwood VS Carlton
Round 6 Stats: 10 disposals, 3 marks, 2 goals, 4 tackles, 5 hitouts, 67 SCPoints, 62 AFPoints, 79 CKPoints

Cox continues to do a decent job of it, notching up another solid SC score, one that probably could have been even higher if it wasn’t for the 3 free’s he gave away. He’s only played 2 games, so you can still bring him in for his basement price, and currently has a projected price rise of 64K and a BE of -73. He’s a perfect downgrade target for this week and a great CoachKings options against Carlton. Note though.. there has been some late mail that Cloke may return this week, wonder if this could put some selection pressure on the big yank?

THE BEST OF THE REST…

Mitch Brown – Highest score of the year for Brown with 88, that’s pushed his BE back down to 0. Hold for a few more weeks.

Peter Wright – How fortunes can change, with 142 SCPoints one week and only 32 the next. To be fair, Gold Coast were absolutely slaughtered by the Cats, so it wasn’t exactly the best game to judge him on. Still, he’s shown that the score of 142 probably isn’t the norm, and because he costs 187K, I’d likely go for Mason Cox as a downgrade instead.

Daniel Currie – A decent game, but he’s pretty much scored at the same level as Mason Cox and costs 50K more. Still don’t know how solid his job security is with Tom Nicholls sitting there as well.

Sam Grimley – If you started with him, then you’ll probably just have to hold him, but if you’re looking to downgrade, again, go with Cox.

Dougal Howard – Another downgrade option to consider, he only scored 46 last week, but probably has pretty good job security with Matthew Lobbe going down with a knee injury. Port doesn’t have a lot of ruck depth and don’t seem too keen to send Charlie Dixon into the ruck. That leaves Justin Westhoff and Jack Trengove, who are part-timers at best. He only costs $3,800 in CoachKings, so if any SA players go to their venue for the Port VS Brisbane game, he’ll make a cheap pick there.

George Hewett – Has a BE of -12 and kicked 3 goals last week, so should keep his spot. Keep him if you didn’t trade him out.

Liam Sumner – Just the 55 last week, but that’s a season high and hasn’t had more than 10 possessions in a game. Forget about him in long-form fantasy football. I’d skip him in CoachKings this week too, he’s cheap, but not producing much.

Josh Smith – Will likely be a very popular downgrade target this week, thanks to SC scores of 72 and 96. He’s a bargain basement price of 102K and looks to be the goods. I’m bringing him in. He’s $4,500 in CoachKings, but belted out a 96 last week, that’s value for money.

Josh Wagner – Back down to earth a bit for Wagner, with the 48 SCPoints off of 17 disposals. Probably a disappointing result as he had 47 in Round 3, but only had 8 possessions that game. 14 uncontested possessions and 3 clangers probably hurt, but Byrne-Jones still might be the better pick in the end. 21 pressure acts was 2nd best for the Dees against the Saints, so he’s still showing that he’s working hard out there.

Nakia Cockatoo – 76 SCPoints for Nakia thanks to 3 goals. He’s averaging 81 over the last 3 games, but the Cats haven’t exactly been playing anyone that great.

Darcy Tucker – Not a great result SC wise, he had 13 disposals and 2 marks, but only scored 34 SCPoints. His DE was only 61%, but more than a few players had issues kicking in the swirly conditions. 11 uncontested possessions will also keep that score low too. He might be worth a downgrade, just because he looks

Michael Hartley – Has had a solid 2 weeks, with scores of 79 and 83. Essendon players have been a bit up and down this year; Hartley has had patches of both good and bad form. If you have him he’ll still earn plenty of cash thanks to a -21 BE.

Ciaran Byrne – Started on fire in the first quarter, with a score of 40 SCPoints, but then only finished on 75 for the game. Still, he’s shown he’s at least consistent with scores of 67, 67, 76 and 75. Not as good as the other Byrne, but I wouldn’t be upset if I picked him up at his basement price either. Might make a cheap DEF option in CoachKings at $5,000

Jade Gresham – He had his highest SC score of the year, but it was just a score of 56. Playing more forward at AFL level, which probably isn’t going to help him produce great fantasy football scores.

Jason Castagna – He only scored 37 SCPoints in his debut game, but I did like the fact he seemed willing to take the game on. Still, that score isn’t high enough to consider downgrading to him at the moment.

Ryan Davis – Another poor score this week, hitting a season low of 33 SCPoints. Wasn’t much going on for Gold Coast up forward, so it’s not a surprise Davis didn’t score well. Tough position to be in with him, downgrading him nets you minimal cash and his BE is 39, so it’s not likely he’ll go up much more with his current scoring output. And those scores are pretty much useless to us.

Christian Petracca – News was he would play forward, which had me worried a bit, but it was more of a high half forward role around the 50 metre mark and into the centre square, so he still found the ball a fair bit. SC score of 63 is a solid start, but give him another week before upgrading.

Aliir Aliir – Just 6 disposals and 3 tackles for Aliir for the 36 SCPoints. Didn’t expect much from him, so hard to be disappointed with that result.

Ben Keays – 11 disposals, 8 tackles and a goal is a decent effort for a first gamer. Only had 5 effective disposals and 3 clangers which hurt though. Watch for one more week, but for SA CoachKings players, consider him for Sunday at $3,700.

Connor Blakely – An OK result from Blakely with 10 disposals and 5 tackles, but just 44 SCPoints. Ran at only 50% DE, which isn’t a good result and only had 59% ToG. At 153K, if that’s the best he can do I probably wouldn’t bother. 

AROUND THE GROUNDS…

Wayne Milera – A pretty good game for Milera in the SANFL, he had 22 disposals, 3 marks and kicked 3.2 in the Crows 1 point loss to South Adelaide. With Laird out, the Crows could shuffle the deckchairs a bit and bring Milera back in. If you still have him, wait for the team announcements to see if he’s brought back.

Charlie Curnow – Will be out with glandular fever, which probably won’t help his fantasy footy chances much!

Jayden Short – The VFL Tigers got beaten pretty badly, but Short was still pretty good, leading the way for the Tigers with 29 possessions, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 6 inside 50’s and 6 rebound 50’s.

Tom Curren – Another great game from Curren with 28 disposals, 7 marks, 3 tackles and 3 inside 50’s

James Rose – He had 18 disposals and 3 goals as the Swans in the NEAFL annihilated the Lions by 110 points.

Shane Yarran – Returning from a knee injury he suffered in the WAFL Grand Final, Yarran kicked 3 goals and had 9 possessions and 4 marks in the Peel Thunders big win against Perth.

Clayton Oliver – In for the Casey Scorpions this week, he had 29 disposals, 3 marks and 16 tackles. Hard to keep him out with that sort of form, but the Dees aren’t short on midfielders.

Nathan Freeman – After his latest injury setback due to his hamstrings, St Kilda senior coach Alan Richardson has conceded it will be very unlikely Freeman plays any senior football for St Kilda as they are concentrating on getting his body right for 2017. So we’ll see Nathan here this time next year maybe!

Mabor Chol – Not much from Chol against Sandringham with just 7 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles.

Liam McBean – Like Chol, McBean didn’t provide a heck of a lot against Sandringham, with just 4 kicks, 2 marks and 1.2 on the scoreboard.

Jack Trengove – Trengove has continued his great VFL form, nabbing 28 disposals, 3 marks and 9 tackles for the Casey Scorpions last week.

Dean Gore – Gore was quieter this week, with just the 18 touches and a goal to his name.

Sam Collins – Collins had 16 disposals and 7 marks in the Peel Thunders big win against Perth.

Anthony Moribito – An OK game from Moribito with just the 15 disposals and 5 marks. He’s still on the Dockers rookie list, so I wouldn’t expect him back at this point.

Rhys Mathieson – Another good effort from Mathieson with 20 disposals, 4 tackles and a goal.

Josh Dunkley – He had a game high 34 possessions in Footscray’s loss to Weribee.

Jacob Hopper – Was the senior emergency for the GWS Giants this week, so no NEAFL action for Hopper.

Jake Barrett – 26 disposals, 5 marks and 6 tackles for Barrett as the UWS Giants went down by 13 points to the NT Thunder.

Harrison Himmelberg – A key forward from the GWS Academy that the Adelaide Crows bid on during the 2016 AFL Draft, he had 19 disposals and 7 marks against the NT Thunder. He’s currently playing down back for the UWS Giants and is averaging 21 disposals and 6 marks in his 5 NEAFL games. Hard for a tall bloke to get a gig at the Giants though.

That’s it for me this week. Any rookies you’re considering swapping to? And any rookies  you’re looking at downgrading to?

Will you be painting the fence or doing upgrades for your side?

Let us know in the comments below, or hit us up on Twitter @BarronVonCrow


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Dee

Good work Barron! Thank God I got rid of Dea last week….. Weitering to Simpson and Kennedy to Smith this week, wekum!

I N Pieman

Nice one Barron. It is time for the flaccid Dea to be culled. Albeit a week too late. In the great words of Monty Burns "Simpson Aye"

azza

hey guys need some thoughts on these trades
current team is:
def: shaw,simpson,laird,adams,DBJ, dea (hartely,ruggles)
mid: Dangerfield,ablett,hannerberry,parker,shiel,libba,mills,kerridge (davis,hewett,mendaue)
rucks: gawn, smartin (wyatt)
fwd: zorko,barlow,hall,wells,bkennedy,AMT (papley, m.brown)

thinking of going this week
menadue – j.smith
dea- dusty
next week:
bkennedy – petracca
amt – rich/houli (someone under 475k)

Ryan

Should I do a double downgrade this week (bring in Cox & Smith for Dea & AMT)? I'll have 21 trades left though….

Derek

with that few trades left, i wouldn't be taking any risks. both JSmith & Cox have an element of risk. They both could end up fantastic, but they both might be out of the team in a week or two. You can't afford those sort of risks with only 23 trades left. Do one only.

50_Shades

I'd take both or one of there is already a rookie next week you've got lined up. After that though, you've probably gotta focus your trades on need only.

Hanif

Can you please explain to me how you trade dea for smith?

Everyone keeps saying it but I just dont get it. One is a mid and the other a defender!!!

Puopolo_Culture

Though dual position players. If you have a MID/DEF in your midfield you can trade out Dea, swap the MID/DEF from midfield into the backs, then bring in Smith.

Crowmagnon

or you can go the long way.
hit trade on Dea
move a fwd/Def to defence. to do this hit the s tab that will appear when you trade Dea.
then move a mid/fwd to the forward line in the same manner as above.
you now have an open mid spot to trade smith into.

Jon

Weitering to Shaw and Kennedy to Smith week.

I will however still have Dea but I don't have the cash to go Dea to Shaw and I feel shaw is a priority. Thoughts Community??

Nathan

Why not hold weitering till next week as he wont lose cash and trade dea instead
Or do you not have cover?

Nathan

So just read proply
What abiut simpson, docherty or boyd

Jon

I already have Simpson and shaws break even is really low this week

Jimma

Onya Baron, always a handy read, do you reckon that a price peaked mills to a cheap Marc murphy is a solid trade option in the coming weeks? from what i know all his lowest scores were due to illness and injury, could really be a nice POD, what are your thoughts?

Kev

Still another 60-70k in Mills

james

heres my team 460k in the bank, thoughts

DEF- Laird, Houli, Adams, Weitering, Dea, DBJ (Byrne, Ruggles)
MID- Dangerfield, Hannebery, Ward, Zieball, Shiel, Priddis, Parish (Hewett, Davis, Greasham)
Ruck- Gawn, Nic Nat (Lorensch)
FWD- Hall, Wells, Kerridge, De Goey, Benken, Tipungwuiti (Menadue, Petracca)

my main issues are Laird, Weitering, Dea, Parish, Benken, AMT. with only 20 trades left i feel i should hold Laird and Weitering for now, but not sure if the rug and byrne can hold up, so some trade idea's that i had were

Dea + Parish= Simpson + Treloar

Dea + AMT= Simpson + Dusty/Barlow

AMT + BenKen= Zorko + Buddy or Riewoldt as a POD + Greene or Dusty + Barlow

Thoughts on what i should do community

Derek

as i said before, trade carefully. You have alot of upgrades to do and not many trades left. You may even have to consider keeping a Kerridge or DeGoey until the end, depending on injuries etc.

50_Shades

I disagree. with so many playing rookies, can you really afford to hold injured players.

Laird, sure – cop that and hold
But Weitering has got to go.
AMT and BenKen would appear to have more upside (even if only for points this week) than Menadue or Davis, so I'd be ditching one of them. If AMT and BenKen don't perform, what's it really gonna cost in team value $10k – $20k.

$460k plus weiter plus Davis might be two premos (or very close anyway).

Derek

he has 20 trades left……and at least 10 keepers to trade in! the maths are not in his favour. Hold the rookies and extract every last cent possible and trade in keepers who are bargin price

cashcows

You are in no position to be looking at PODs tbh.

Hold laird, hold weitering (this week or until you sorted the rest out), hold benken, solid chance to beat his BE

Dea needs to go. I'd be looking at Shaw, you need to start bringing in keepers.

Kev

You must have been smashed by injuries mate. 10 trades down and you still have 9 rookies on the field. Option 2, but Shaw rather than Simpson

Derek

i'm going to be boring this week and go OUT: Dea & Tippa, IN: Shaw & JSmith

Team will look like:

Shaw, Laird, Bartel, BSmith, Rich, Adams (Hartley, Brown)
Gaz, Pendlebury, Dangerfield, JPK, Rocky, Mills, Kerridge, BenKen (Davis, Gresham, JSmith)
NicNat, Blitz (Wyatt)
Barlow, Dusty, Wingard, Wells, McCarthy, Paps (Menadue, McGovern)

Will have 25 trades left.

Petracca and Mcveigh next week

The Ranger

Same trades for me Derek.
Keays and Rocky next week if all goes to plan.

Derek

not sold on Keays at all, unless he has a big week.

petracca unless you have him.

The Ranger

Got Petracca and I like Keays. "Course that doesn't mean that Leppitsch does…

Derek

Beams will be back this week. Maitherson may be back this week as well.

The Ranger

True, but he's held his spot with Beams back and I think Leppitsch will give him a fair run of games rather than just dropping him after two or three. They need to get games into their kids.

Northernsoul74

What are your thoughts in regards to trading Tippa ahead of Davis?

Derek

as long as they are both playing this week hold them

Southern S

Solid trades.

tuxCS

The fact that you have 1 more premium than me and 4 more trades proves that you have more patience are indeed a magician, what's your team name Derek?

Derek

Team is called Bundeena Bunnies.

Managed overall 1st place in NSW last year.

HOLLA

Youll make huge ground on the leaders as the season progresses Derek. Good disiplined effort thus far.

Cameron

G'day community,
Does anyone know if you get points for kick ins after a behind?

Matt

no you dont, they dont count as a disposal. however it'll be points against if its a clanger. if they play on, then itll count as a disposal and sc points

Bane

They don't count towards stats but sc does count them. Its 1 pt for an effective kick or a long kick. 0 other wise and -1 for a clanger.
Obviously, someone who plays on has better scoring ability.

Derek

i'm pretty sure they do count. That is one reason Shaw does so well. If he doesn't take the kick in, he makes sure he is the one who they kick it to, a mark and a kick.

Who takes the kickins for essendon? they might get a few points this week.

Crowmagnon
Marvin

Harrison himmelberg.?? Surely you bring him in on name alone

D-Train

If we're picking on name alone, my rucks would be Cox – Jack Hiscox and Roughead.

Francis

Smith or Cox?

Danners

Smith, job security is better

Dee

Brown Cox swings…..

Nicholas

Wonderful article as usual and here is my team

Backs: Hartley, Smith, Bartel, Rich, Brown, DBJ (Laird, Weitering)

Mids: Fyfe, Ablett, Danger, Kerridge, Wines, Selwood, Libba, Mills ( B ken, Gray, Davis)

Ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cox)

Fowards: Barlow, Hall, Wells, Adams, Papley, Tippa ( Menadue, Mccarthy)

I have 22 trades and 158k in the bank. This is the week I want to get Heater in. Thinking maybe:

Weitering—> Shaw

A rookie or Libba if he does not play —> Smith

I already have Cox in my team from round 1 luckily so Smith is the rookie for me this week. I am thinking Heater will go back to 600k so it will be his lowest price right now.

Having Gray, Laird, Weitering, Libba is not the best situation so hopefully Libba comes through. I want to hold Gray and Laird so all other trades are on the table.

Thanks in advance for advice

Tom McV

Fyfe is probably a must trade??

Nicholas

My bad fyfe was out last week for parker. Forgot to change it

Derek

did you get it fixed?

Northernsoul74

Looks like he now has selwood so I guess they fixed for him.

Nicholas

Yeh I got it fixed luckily

Derek

gave you no hope. well done.

Nicholas

No hope?

Derek

no hope to get your phantom trades reversed.

Kev

Don't trade Libba. Even if he does miss this week it was only a corky.

Derek

i'm getting Shaw in this week.

Nicholas

maybe I should actually hold on shaw and try bring in a forward premo. Could bring in Martin, Greene, Zorko, Dahlhaus as options and maybe get rid of Tippa and hold of weitering till the next week. This would mean fielding Brown however my forward is a bit light

Derek

it has crossed my mind (briefly) not pass on Shaw. This would be a massive POD. GWS have a pretty tough run of games coming up and maybe, just maybe Shaw doesn't go too well….. but then i came to my senses. Must have, must be this week has a BE of 55.

Nicholas

Who would u downgrade to get him in? Was thinking menadue or davis

Southern S

I'd swap Menadue/Davis for Smith and go weiter to shaw.

Unless Ben ken gets dropped then trade him instead for smith.

Nicholas

yeh I will probably make a trade like that just waiting on selections

Tommo09

Here's my team

Def: Shaw, Adams, Tippa, DBJ, Byrne, Brown (Laird, Weitering)
Mid: Danger, Gaz, Parker, Hannebery, Libba, Crouch, Mills, Kennedy (Gresham, Petracca, Smith)
Ruc: Goldy, NicNat
Fwd: Hall, Martin, Barlow, Franklin, Wells, Kerridge (Papley, Menadue)

I know my defence is thin but I decided to go Fyfe to Hanners and Davis to Smith instead of upgrading Weitering
$300k left and 23 trades.

Anything I can do community

@winterjames5

you could look at moving on menadue as his BE is getting close to his avg

i would go menadue down Cox or Howard

then use the 400k plus to upgrade gresham as he doesnt seem to have good js to Ward or Pendles

Danners

Trades sound good

tom

Well if its true what they say about Pendles may not play. My team is screwed.

Southern S

What's wrong with him?

tom

Apparently didn't train with the main group, was doing some light training.

Northernsoul74

Said the same last week. Apparently he was less likely last week so should be ok. I certainly wouldn't be trading him in though anytime soon.

fatboyfat7

same… tried to be too clever bringing him in stead of Selwood last week. Major backfire…

Shake n bake

Buckley said he's ok to go this week.

HOLLA

Apparently sidey didnt do much either. Wouldnt worry about pendles. If he wants to play, he plays.

Daniel

Which of these 3 options is the best to get in J. Smith and H. Shaw this week?

OPTION 1: Tippa and Libba OUT
OPTION 2: Davis and R.Gray OUT
OPTION 3: Kennedy and Hurn OUT

Or a mix and match of the above players? Also, only have 2k in the bank

Cameron

Probably would trade tippa and hurn if you can

Danners

Davis and Gray, both out

Melon

too many injuries cannot get rid of Dea this week. I'll take the hit and trade him next week

Southern S

Think it's probably a wise move because if you hold Weitering and get another couple of injuries this round, then you may not be able to field a full team next week. Pity about the bleeding though. Hope he tonnes up for you.

mark

hows it going community
I got 22 trades left and have 250k in the bank and currently ranked 1900. I'm going to trade weitering to shaw but not sure if I should trade dea to smith or hold because of how many trades I have left.

Edd

I've got 26 trades and am cautious about trading…the way you are travelling you will have none by finals time…just a very experienced SC player finished top 1% last year trying to impart some constructive feedback!

Southern S

You almost have to do it for the progress of your team, regardless of burning trades.

Derek

i would be getting rid of both Dea and Weitering

lachie08

Whats wrong with pendleburys score this week, not what we wanted but he had 22 handballs, if he had less of them and more kicks and he would have scored alright.

@winterjames5

whats the better trade

Parish to Rockliff

or

Tipungwuti to Dusty

Derek

I like the Dusty option. He is at the bottom of his price and is a must have in the forward line. You might get Rocky similar price next week, and he isn't a must have in the Mids.

50_Shades

Neither in my view. I want to see one more week from both of those boys before I'd contemplate.

Is there any other premiums you'd consider.

GoHawks

Who to cull first out of-

Menadue & Ben Kennedy?

I'm favoring Menadue to trade out.

Nicholas

Ben Ken should make his b/e this week so probs menadue

50_Shades

Yeah, Menadue then Davis then BenKen.

Northernsoul74

Or Davis

jimmy

Parker or Selwood community

Nicholas

Not much separating them flip a coin I guess

50_Shades

I've got Parker, but I'd be equally happy with Selwood. I like seeing him in form and I think him and danger will just get better and better together.

Danners

Parker looks the real deal might as well get him while his form continues

poloko48

Both must haves by end of year.

TassieChris

weitering out has finally given me a loophole! double downgrade is the move, grabbing both magpie boys. cox in for mcarthy and smith in for davis, cox and wyatt swing set for the time being might add something, hopefully cox can string enough games, earn enough cash and never be used. as a luxury move we convert cox into the best DPP F/R in business for cover. Painting downways this week.

Tony

Hi Guys. Apart from Shaw who is the next best defender??

Derek

McVeigh

Tony

Derek – I think you are probably right but with a be of 132 he is a week or 2 away even though Swans do play Essendon. Therefore who do reckon is the next best. Cheers

Derek

i'll get him next week or the week after

Tommy

Simpson

50_Shades

Herald sun forum comment that there are 37 changes this weekend. Surely that can't be true… I don't even want to look.

Kevdog

I got rid of Menadue for Josh Smith and I'm getting rid of Dea for a premo defender. I have 555k, which premo defender should I get in this week ? (already have Heath Shaw)

Danners

Boyd, Simpson, Houli are some good options or Pittard as a POD

Leeds17

Can't really go with any others option, don't expect Pittard to be as poor in the seldom half of the season as he has been in his last few,

Personally I think McVeigh can out score of of them till the end of the season so I'd be happy to go early a week on him with the likelyhood he'll drop 10k

Southern S

Davis out, makes my trades easier. Keeping menadue and kennedy.

Jesse White back in for collingwood, I admit I actually forgot the guy existed, will not be trading Cox in with Grundy, Witts, Cloke and White all in contention for spots in upcoming weeks.

Derek

davis gives me a loophole.

Southern S

Yeah I just don't see him making any more cash anyway, happy to hold Ben Ken till later in the season if I have to.

Weiter and Davis to Hannebery and Smith, bangity bang.

Nicholas

I will be going Davis to Smith and Weitering to Heater so the davis selection makes it easy for me also

Ethan

Which fallen premo to get or do i get in a premo defender to get me extra cover for laird

Phil

Well which fallen premo do you have?

Phil

sorry read wrong…..probably simmo

Ethan

well its basically dusty of simmo/docherty

gator59

Libba and Kerridge named to play

Southern S

Anyone else having problems with the supercoach website? keeps saying "something went wrong"

Southern S

When I click on the T under weitering*

gator59

not here southern

siri

SC not working

Phil

Yeah

Phil

Just give a bit its doing it to me too

Southern S

Cheers

Southern S

Working now it seems.

tuxCS

The phone app is working for me.

Liam

Should I bring in Petracca or Cox ?

Derek

Petracca every day of the week and twice on sundays

Liam

Cheers Derek.

Phil

No bring in Pet next week

tuxCS

If you want to bring them both in, go Cox this week (because he's on the bubble), and Petracca next week.

Liam

It's Cox V Keays. Not sure.

Southern S

make sure you are happy with his job security though, I have my doubts with Grundy, Witts, Cloke and White as the other big men who can play forward and/or ruck.

Liam

Thats what i'm thinking. Maybe Petracca this week and Keays next week.

Tommy

Keays didn't set the world on fire last week. Probably wouldnt bring him in unless he has a good game this week.

Danners

If you are not doing any downgrades next week, go Petracca. If you are go Cox

Liam

I am. It's between Cox and Keays.

gator59

I count 39 changes for this round

Phil

Looks like I'm only making 1 trade this week. No Tucker No Lee again? So much for their so called Job securities?

Southern S

Damn you Brad crouch, taking Jarryd Lyons' spot! Oh well plenty of bench support.

Southern S

Ah well crouch will break something again and Lyons will be back!

Phil

Menadue a follower? Does anyone think that will change by tomorrow night? Think he will be on the interchange?

tuxCS

Sorry mate, he was named as a follower last week as well, but i think he swaps around with anthony miles.

Danners

Doesn't make a difference where he starts it won't make any difference on how he plays

Leeds17

I think he'll have a decent game tomorrow he's not a horrible player just extremely outside which is hard to have an impact when your in a poor team, Hawks will give the Tigers space I reckon which Mendue should love

Mac

I don't know if its possible for you to reach full premo looking at how many trades you got. But I wish you luck. Those trades sound very good for this round. Would look at picking up Dusty next week as his price will be as low as you'll get him and maybe McVeigh as well or Rance.

Southern S

1,057,900 remaining salary. 11,664,800 team value. (12,722,700 total)

Weitering via DPP for Hannebery, Davis for Smith. Even with a huge warchest I feel I need Smith in the long run.

Going for broke this year, aiming for full ultra premo and league wins. 18 trades remaining, yes I am scared.

Shaw, Adams, AMT, Hartley, DBJ, Byrne – Laird/Brown

Parker, Danger (V), Hannes, Ablett, Zaha, Libbe, M.Crouch, Mills – Lyons/Mena/Smith

Gawn, King (C loophole) – Nic Nat

Hall, Wells, Barlow, Kerridge, De Goey, Petracca – Kennedy/McCarthy

If Danger gets a 130+ I'll keep it this week and will probably captain Parker or Hanners against the bombers if it fails.

Ablett could have a big one though after the scrutiny recently about him not hitting enough contested numbers. Hopefully Danger has a huge one so I don't have to decide.

Southern S

Forgot to add rank…….

Ranked 19095 (Score 12811) Top 9%

Phil

I'm ranked in the top 8000 and have 26 trades left and may only use 1 this week?

Phil

This must be you first yr (rookie) but that's ok its the only way you learn.

Southern S

lol no I've done it for about 5 years now but wanted to have some fun with it so went with cash generation as my aim early.

I'm surprised I'm not ranked much worse than I am, injuries have crippled many sides that have all their money on the park, doing really well in most of my leagues and that's my aim.

Southern S

I went into round one with 750k in the bank phil………….and sat on 1.3 mill last week etc, high % is not my aim this year.

Phil

Not a chance in hell you make full premo! Give it up now! You're cooked!

Southern S

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Phil

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Phil

you wasted trades …..better hope to god no one goes down which I'm sure will happen and no trades left to bring someone in. You are done!

Southern S

'I will never, ever give up'

Inspired by ken Hinkley.

LOL

Phil

LOL ok dont give up but we all know ur toast!!! 18 trades after 7 rds……snickering??? Ok Hang in there mate! LOL

Southern S

I'll be fine, used to do seasons on 24, this is gonna be a walk in the park.

Phil

LOL ok

Leeds17

Smith is extremely tempting but look at how many new rookies are about he's not a must have IMO just a solid trade, if you've got other stuff to do then do it I rekcon

Luviboy1

Brilliant article BVC. Who gets a gig on field out of BenKen or Petracca this week community? Looping Menadue and McCarthy in the FWD line, and in MID looping Smith and whoever gets benched out of BenKen and Petracca.

Nicholas

Wondering if next week we will have the chance to get mcveigh and martin because keays and petracca will be on the bubble

Hawks

Agree Keays didn't score great last week, but he looked seriously good. Petracca also looked like a kid that once he gets used to the AFL pace, will be worth having. I plan on having both.

This week is a good week to get Martin if you can.

Nicholas

I gotta get Heater in this week that is the problem haha

Leeds17

Looking to bring both in this week, though already have petracca, will be missing out on Smith which is a shame but not the end of the world it's been made out to be.

Northernsoul74

Almost feels like a waste of a trade to get rid of Davis. Hardly made any cash but he's been dropped and don't see him making anything more meaningful in the future.

Nicholas

agreed he was useless for the most part but gives a fair bit of people the cash to get heater

Leeds17

Yeah really does wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see him again, hopefully Macpherson can hold down a spot

Phil

No way, wont get full premo! better save those trades and take it in the old butt the next few weeks you will not get full premo!

Southern S

My problem is my players don't have enough growth left in them to reach full premo if I wait. If Josh Smith becomes 400k then he is a must have for my end goal!

Southern S

I count 13 keepers with Libbe.

The 1mill in bank can be used to aquire another 5, maybe even 6 keepers if I squeeze every dollar out of each player.

That will leave me with 12-13 trades to get 4-5 players through painting fences, it's possible but yeah it's going to be dicey.

D-Train

I think it's a stretch to call Liberatore an "ultra premo" but let's say he can maybe hold onto a top 25 spot (currently ~ 50th by average). Giving Libba the benefit of the doubt, you'll still have to make 9 upgrades.

I looked at the numbers and I think you'll be able to bring in 5 premos off of 1.05 million. This is based on using 210k per upgrade (it would be 175k per upgrade for 6, which means you'd be picking players you could afford, not ultra premos) and picking up slightly discounted premos (estimate around 570k each), which translates to each player you're upgrading being around 360k in value.

From your team list, I could see: Adams, DBJ, MCrouch, Mills, Lyons, Kerridge, and De Goey in that range. The rest look like they'll max out in the 300-340k range, except for Menadue and Smith (who will be considerably less).

So after your war-chest is depleted, you'll have 18 premos, 13 trades and two higher-valued rookies to go along with the 300-340k range guys. To get those last 4 premos, I think you'll need to do an extra downgrade (5 down, 4 up) because the money won't be enough for premos otherwise.

That leaves you with 4 trades for injuries for the remainder of the season. I've got 12 premos (plus Libba, Tippett, and KK) and with 23 trades, I'm worried it won't be enough (I have about 920k less in the bank though). Good luck because I think you'll need it to get to ultra premo.

D-Train

Holy crap that was long – sorry all.

Southern S

Yeah I won't have a team of ultra premos but hope to get a majority of them and have a couple of 450k-500k type players in F6/M8/D6 positions. Hopefully PODs.

If I keep Libbe and Zaha at M7/ M8 and Wells kerridge at F5/F6 this will leave me with 8 upgrades to do off my warchest and remaining trades which is quite possible.

Then I could go for all the ultra premos possible, and I won't be worrying about the byes either so I have that advantage of getting all the top players that I really want.

It's going to be interesting though that's for sure, thanks for the comments D-Train.

Quartermaster

1st time poster.

Keeping it simple this week:
Ben Ken to J. Smith
AMT to Simpson

22 trades left. Bank is healthy at 184k.

Current team is:
DEF: Shaw, Simpson, KK, B. Smith, Malceski, DBJ (Brown, Ruggles)

MID: Selwood, Priddis, Parker, Ward, Pendles, Libba, Gray, Oliver (J. Smith, Hewett, Davis)

RUC: NicNat, Sauce

FWD: Dusty, Greene, Wells, Kerridge, Hall, Papley (McCarthy, Menadue)

Menadue named in the middle this week, so be looking at his score intently!

Hawks

Think I would trade either Menadue or Davis for J.Smith.

I think BenKen can score big again and keep making $

Derek

Hi. Nice team, plenty of PODs. Didn't you have Adams?

No Danger or Gaz, that is a massive POD there.

Trades look good

jake

Community just scrolling through the midfield players to see that Marc Murphy was only 430k!!!, after seeing his past 5 seasons his avg of 103, 106, 93, 112, 118 he is starting to look like a real fallen premo or bargin, his avg this year is 85 but if you take out his score of 36 his avg would be 95, this season his scores have been 123,84,64,(36 copped head knock), 101,103
he started last year slow but just look how he finished and to ad on he is only in 1% of teams so will be a good POD
but overall community i think if you are looking at real value murphy could be your man

Southern S

It's interesting but I'd be hesitant with new players like Kerridge and Matthew Wright getting midfield time and clearances.

Leeds17

If I didn't already have PODs in Duncan, Shiel and TMitchell I'd be very interested at that price

jimmy

i only have $512,600 for a defender which means i'm short on Shaw, Simpson, Mcveigh, so who is my next best option to get Boyd, Enright, Docherty, Pittard

already have houli and laird

Northernsoul74

I'd wait a week or two and get who you really want when you can afford them. McVeigh will likely drop in price after his third game.

Hawks

Boyd is a nice POD, and with JJ, Suckling & Murphy out of the WBD defence for a while, Boyd should get plenty of the ball.

Don't Bush Babbie'

B.Smith,D.Rich & J.Bartel – Who do I bring in and are they in the best 8 for keepers ?

Southern S

I don't think they will be, Bartel is a possibility but need to see more.

Hawks

None are top 8, Smith could score well with Laird out

johnno2908

Thoughts? I have changed my mind 1000 times this week. 26 trades and $83300 in the bank, ranked 122 overall.

My team at the moment:
DEF: Shaw, Laird, Rich, Weitering, DBJ, AMT (Brown, Ruggles)
MID: Danger, Parker, Ablett, Pendelbury, Sloane, Priddis, Libba, Mills (Menadue, Davis, Dunkley)
RUCK: Gawn, NicNat (Grimley)
FWD: Hall, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Adams, Kerridge (Kennedy, Wyatt)

At the moment, I have gone Weitering to Dusty and Menadue to JSmith. Leaves me with $35100 in the bank.
Then next week go AMT to McVeigh and Kennedy to Petracca which will hopefully be doable.
This round means I have to loophole Ruggles and Brown in defense and hope for a 70+ to cover Laird for this round.

Any better options?

Southern S

Could keep menadue instead of davis?

They seem like wise trades either way to me.

johnno2908

I initially went Davis, but pretty certain I would be 5-10k short of the McVeigh trade next week which is why I did it with Menadue. Ideally I would go davis you are right.

Southern S

Menadue might make the extra 5-10k this week?

johnno2908

He will, but it's Kennedy and AMT I am trading next so unfortunately not much choice. If I go Davis to Smith I will have $600 in the kitty, and will require roughly $625k next week to do the McVeigh and petracca trades. Kennedy and AMT will be roughly $600k combined

Wayno76

I have some cash in the bank(450,000) but waiting till next week to trade I was thinking
Weitering and Papley – out
Pettraca – in
and Upgrade to a fallen premo mid
Either Priddis or Ablett
any thoughts on any better upgrade options ?
I Currently have :
Parker Danger Mitchell Barlow (wich I'll swing into forward during trade) Libba Wright(Carlton) Kerridge Mills (gore smith clarke)

Phil

Nope sounds and looks good!

Hawks

Ablett in would be a good move

Southern S

Nah not on a 148 BE.

Wayno76

I m doing these trades next week so Abletts be could change I was hoping he doesn't get 148 and drops well below 600000 and would be cheap for Gazza

Southern S

Yep sounds good.

Steve

who should i play on the field out of:

in the midfield: Oliver, Hewett, Petracca, J.Smith?

in defence: Harltey or Ruggles?

Hawks

Definitely Hartley in defence.

Oliver or Smith in the mids

Jess_coach

Hartley and Oliver

Alphie

2 options for trading community

Option 1:Davis to Josh smith, Menadue to Martin
Option 2: Davis to Smith, Parish to Murphy (200k left for following week)

I am meaning towards the second option although the problem is I will have Simpson, Cripps, Kerridge and Murphy…. Thoughts community?

Hawks

Who should start on the field in the forward-line?

Need to select 2 of –
Mitch McGovern
McCarthy
M.Brown
Petracca or BenKen

Also who should be emergency?

Thoughts appreciated

Southern S

I'd probably go both the Melbourne fellas vs GCS.

Emergency McCarthy.

Hawks

Can only go Petracca or Kennedy, not both, I can swing either into the forward-line for the other

Southern S

Aha.

Not sure about Brown vs Sydney at the SCG.

Not sure about McGovern vs Doggies at Etihad.

I'd have to say McCarthy and I reckon Petracca in his second game.

Trac got 16 touches and 5 tackles last week (Kennedy 18 touches 2 tackles)

Troy

The question of my week is to double down or 1 down and 1 up?

Davis to J.Smith & Menadue to Cox (Wooried about job security)

Or

M.Crouch to J.Smith & Weithering to Simpson

Your thoughts are appreciated

Southern S

2 because if both Cox and Smith lose their jobs you're in a bit of trouble.

Hawks

Smith & Simpson in.

Cox will be around 2-3 more weeks at best, until Cloke shows he needs Collingwood.