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THE STANDING ROOM – Round 6

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Righto.. who has Goldmember?

What happens if Libba is pulled out of the team with his bung leg next week?

Let’s chew the fat about the round in progress.

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boulouxis

im finding the scoring system confusing have been playing sc from the start can someone tell me how does goldstein get 40 hit outs for a grand to 8 poss 3 clangers,all his tap outs did they go to dogys i think we counted at least 20 tap outs to advantage for a grand total of 49? it seems a bit strange what are everyones thoughts……please explain

Jim

I agree I can not understand it also and I have also been playing this game from the start ,I'm not upset about the score I'm more disappointed as I put a lot of time an effort into a hobby which is slowly taking away the fun due to these inconsistency's !

Southern S

I don't remember 20 hitouts to advantage, and hitouts that are sharked result in a -1.

He also had 3 clangers and two frees against and went at a 50% disposal efficiency on his 8 touches.

Jim

Do you have Goldstein ?

Southern S

No, people that do obviously have him are wanting to see stats that weren't there.

Jim

So to answer your comment ,coaches that have him watch him closer than coaches that don't and given that I have finished around the top 1000 for the last three years id like to think I know what I'm talking about ,I take the game seriously and look at the changes in the point system every year and according to my calculations as I have watched the game three times just so I know I'm not imagining things he should of scored around 80 to 85 .

Southern S

Ok fair enough Jim but I really don't remember many quality hitouts from Goldy last night, will have to watch it back at some stage during the week.

Jim

No problem, like I said I don't really care about the 49 points I just want fairness and consistency so I can continue to enjoy playing this game with out any doubt .Thanks

Johnny Wilson

He had 8 hitouts to advantage, thats 32 pts. 4 effective touches along with a tackle etc, however the bulldogs mids sharked about 10 hitouts meaning that is -40 pts. hitout to disadvantage = -4 pts.

Jim

That does not make sense according to your scoring system if you add his clangers he finishes on – 8 ,its only -1 for taps do disadvantage .

FootyFanatic

SuperCoach scoring explained http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-

And a hit out to disadvantage is -1.

boulouxis

still doesn't
explain 49 if its -1 to disadvantaged after 40 hit outs 8 to advatage 18 to sharks what about the other 22 hit outs?

Southern S

The other 22 hitouts count for nothing. The ruck scoring was revised before the 2015 season.

Bagels22

Boys if Goldstein scored what he was meant to no one would of been questioning it.
BAGELS 22

Dee

I think 90% of Supercoach teams in the land chucked the VC on Goldstein….. SMH. Now we all gotta take the punt and hope we pick the right captain! Who are we thinking community? I'm leaning towards Dangerfield tonight….. or Ablett. Thoughts?

Steeeve

I'm going Ablett, only because most league opponents have Danger.

Jimi

Parker. Looks like it's going to be wet in Brisbane tomorrow afternoon

Mick

Ward :))

Todd

Was good to see Libba play the game out, prob pulled up sore though. Had a BE of 70 so his price will stay the same, personally id wait to see how he goes this week on the track

Rob

Field hewett, menudue or davis?

Dee

that's a bad choice of selection there my friend, flip a coin between Menadue and Hewett.

Todd

All similar scoring output, Hewitt has the highest average, that's who I would field.

breakevens

Menadue

sambochristie

I am having a sudden urge to bring Sloane in for Fyfe and whack the big C on him. Thoughts community?

oldmate65

Could be interesting, masterstroke if he has a massive game.

I'm giving big Maxy Gawn the captaincy this week. Love what he's doing out on the field.

Dee

I like it…. Sloane is under rated, he's starting to hit his straps now and is a great POD.

Nick

petracca or kennedy

Nick

on field

Southern S

Petracca is starting on field and Kennedy on bench so probably tracca.

Brett

Help please, on field 2 out of Weitering,Hartley, Mcd-Tip or DBJ and 2 out of Petracca, McGovern and BenKen THANKS

breakevens

Weitering and DBJ
Benken and McGovern

breakevens

Just praying to the supercoach gods that Danger gets the job done tonight

Nicholas

Priddis or selwood

Nicholas

only problem with selwood is that then I have Bartel, Selwood and Danger all from the one team

Nicholas

Oh dear checked my bye structure and I am 9-15-6 so i guess I am going selwood. Th reason my round 14 is so high is because of all the rookies I have including the 4 essendon ones. If I go dea to selwood then I am 9-14- 7

hedski

Decided to plant the C on big maxy.
Neither of my opponents in my 2 $ leagues have him and one had the c on goldy (ha ha)

Luke

Dea to Sloane or Neale? Looking for a MID or forward at $550k who will be a keeper and a POD.
Already have Danger, Pendles, Parker, Priddis, Ablett, Barlow, Hall, Greene.

Abel

Sloane

Luke

Done. Cant reverse it now!

Average Joe

Dangerfield | Jelwood | Blicavs | Duncan
Round 1 | 162 | 105 | 123 | 108
Round 2 | 77 | 70 | 115 | 25
Round 3 | 166 | 142 | 117 | 126
Round 4 | 99 | 100 | 51 | 75
Round 5 | 137 | 144 | 115 | 112

See the pattern? No clear pattern between who they play, playing good opponents in hawthorn and GWS in the first two rounds. Then In rounds 3 – 5 they played Brisbane, Essendon and Port. I'll just leave this here for everyone to make of it what they will.

Southern S

Yep and the bombers were very competitive in that round 4 game. They were almost tied at 3/4 time and only lost in the 4th.

The only pattern I see is Selwood scoring big in the easier games.

Big M

Very interesting observation

Southern S

Here's the supercoach scoring system for people that may be confused or blaming corruption by champion data.

GOALS

Goal: 8 points

Behind: 1 point

Score assist: 3 points

CONTESTED FOOTY

Intercept contested mark: 8 points

Contested mark: 6 points

Contested possession at ground level: 4.5 points

Intercept possession: 4.5 points

UNCONTESTED FOOTY

Mark on a lead: 5 points

Uncontested mark: 2 points

Handball received: 1.5 points

Gather: 1.5 points

FREE KICKS

Free kick: 4 points

Free against: -4 points

50m penalty against: -8.5 points

HITTING TARGETS

Effective kick: 4 points

Effective handball: 1.5 points

Ineffective disposal: 0 points

Clanger disposal: -4 points

ONE PERCENTERS

Tackle: 4 points

Spoil: 2 points

Shepherd: 1.5 points

RUCK CONTESTS

Hit out to advantage: 5 points

Hit out: 0 points

Hit out sharked: -1 point

magpie4ver

Thanks for the info Southern S!

Southern S

No probs Magpie, hope your mob can upset those fair weather sailors from the west this weekend!

magpie4ver

Me too! : )

Jim

When umpires make mistakes when not saying they are corrupt ,when the supercoach scorers make mistakes we again are not saying their corrupt ,its all about getting right like I explained the first time,

Southern S

Yep sorry Jim wasn't directly aiming the corruption comment at you, it's just over the past few rounds I've seen people throwing around the idea that the guys at champion data favour certain players that are in their teams.

I respect your view on Goldies score it does seem very low looking at his stats but I'd be inclined to trust them.

tuxCS

Thankyou, this is surprisingly hard to source on the internet.

Neverweaken

Watching the game last night Goldstein just could not get into it. Hit outs that did nothing. Dropped marks when he was near the ball. And that was rare. Seemed half a kick behind play. Not useful at all. Often he scores big by doing something influential at an important part of the game. Last night was bad. He just looked tired.
I put the vc on him like everybody else. Hopefully danger steps up for me today

Southern S

Goldstein is mortal!

Was just having an off night, I'm sure he'll be back better than ever next week.

Jimi

He copped an early hit that I think affected him

Johnny

Selwood or ward? I also have bartel and danger

Southern S

Ward seems consistent and has low ownership.

Johnny

Ward might struggle against the Hawks though. I could even go JPK

Kev

Ward 120 average last 4 games against hawks

Neverweaken

Did one good thing. After lots of uncertainty, listened to Jock and kept Suckling. He's on the bench and traded Dea for Boyd. Been caught too many times trading out a 4 week injured player to have them back after two. Even if it's four Suckling should be a 100+ player when he is back. Defenders are so hard to find this year.

Southern S

Suckling spoke at halftime last night of maybe getting back in 3 but could've been wishful thinking on his part.

Saying Suckling should be a 100+ player is not a bad thought now that he's at the doggies but also a big call considering he's more been an 75-80 player his whole career.

Averages

2011 – 90
2012 – 82
2014 – 77
2015 – 73.4

Now an injury I don't buy the 100 average, but I hope for your sake he makes me look like a fool and achieves it.

Neverweaken

Had suckling from the start. Was about to drop him when Bob went down. And then Johannison? And he rewarded me with 122.

Sully321

Which two on the field out of amt, DBJ, dea or Hartley?

Nuggety

DBJ and AMT playing the percentages

Southern S

Agreed.

jason

mccarthy or papley on field

Southern S

McCarthy.

Nuggety

Pick 2 on field in the mids..
Papsmear, AMT, McCarthy

Nuggety

*fwds

Southern S

McCarthy and AMT.

Southern S

Looks as if my faith in McCarthy was bogus.

Derek

Decided to get Shaw next week, same price or maybe cheaper.

Going Fyfe to JPK

Johnny

hey Derek do you think Ward or Selwood is a better option considering I have Bartel and Danger however I will be getting Shaw next week also

Derek

Selwood by a long way. True ultra premo.

Nicholas

Derek what should I do about my bug

Termite Inspector

I will take a look at it

tuxCS

Please tell me you made that account just for that comment

Northernsoul74

Ha ha genius. What is Derek supposed to do about it?

Dean

I chose Fyfe to Hanners & Dea to Ward via DPP

Southern S

Like it, he's been cruising along nicely, nothing huge yet but I'm sure it will come.

He's a big POD with only 3.8% of team ownership, it's incredible. Should pay off.

Liam

Like it, looks like Shaw is in for a big one though

derek

Everyone knows Shaw is a massive seagul, but when he gets the ball he uses it well. 20 disposals to half time, he is going to go big, maybe beat his BE of 122.

Liam

Looks that way, lets just hope for you that JPK goes bigger.

gator59

Dea or Byrne on ground

Southern S

One thing that came to mind when thinking of Byrne was that great chase and tackled he landed the other week. You want a guy like that on field I reckon. (You're talking Carlton Byrne here right?)

gator59

yes southern

Southern S

Hope you picked Byrne gator! I got the McCarthy tips wrong above but at least I got this one lol.

gator59

Yes i did pick Byrne,, Southern.. Are we in a league against each other !!

Cliffy

Guys, out of these three, DBJ, Weitering and Dea, which two should go on field?

Cheers 🙂

magpie4ver

DBJ I think? Thats who I'm going with.

anthonyc12

DBJ and Weitering

Dee

Sheridan on the chopping block for me this week…. I'm calling it early! Pull your finger out mate and start playing some footy….. He is proving to be a really bad selection. SMH

Loop

I watched him last week and that was enough to convince me to ditch him. I really didnt want to use a trade but he wasnt much value.

CoachDamo

I was very close to going Sheridan to Simpson or Viney at lunchtime yesterday, but ended up keeping him and leaving him on the bench. I wish I'd gone the Viney option! He's definitely out next week though.

Rick Grimes

Petracca butchering left right and centre. But he's getting plenty of it.

Nicholas

damn why did I bring in Brodie Smith in ever since I got him hes had poor performances

Shinboner

Luckily he has had a massive 2nd half.

Nicholas

I need help I traded Dea to Selwood via Rich and confirmed the trade then i refreshed the page and daniel rich was out of my team for penlebury and selwood is not in my team

magpie4ver

?

Nicholas

Idk what to do I am panicking this has ruined my team for good someone please help me

magpie4ver

you cant reverse trade?

Nicholas

I know you cant reverse trade after the first game of the round starts. But I didnt trade in Pendlebury i traded dea to selwood and confirmed the trade but he isnt in my team and pendelbury is in my team instead of rich

Kev

Are you 100% sure you clicked/tapped on Selwood? Him and Pendles are right next to each other on the trade screen. I've never heard of this happening before.

This is why you should do your trades Thursday night and not mid round

Nicholas

I definitely chose selwood. even if I misclicked pendlebury then i wouldnt be that upset but now that rich is out of my team and dea is still here this makes no sense at all. After i finished my trade dea was not in my team and selwood was in the centre and rich was i the back which is what i wanted

Nicholas

I have contacted support to see what they say but if they can not help me my team is over low on trades and a player I never even considered is in my team

Derek

So you wanted to trade Dea >> Selwood. But you got Rich to Pendlebury?

I can't imagine how that would happen.

Nicholas

Me either I am not sure how it happened what should i do

Southern S

Might pay off maybe it was the supercoach gods telling you to pick pendles?

Nicholas

Do you think the guys in the support will fix this issue?

Rick Grimes

No, sounds like user error. Just go with it. Pendles is a beast and getting back to his best. Rich is a spud every second week. DEA might go OK this week. Reckon the SC Gods have done you a solid.

Nicholas

Its no solid i am already low on trades… And its not user error because why would I make that trade if I was not happy with it and if it was me clicking the wrong buttons how would I click so many buttons incorrectly

Rick Grimes

Barlow now must have…haha FML.

Sully321

Dangerfield, Ablett, or Parker for Captain? I'm thinking Parker

surrie

Should I risk putting the captaincy on Gary ablett who has an insane record versus geelong (if he injures his sore ankle ill probably lose) or playing it safe and putting the captaincy on Dangerfield who has an ok record but safer?

magpie4ver

Danger

Cashcows

Gaz, Hall, Hanners or Danger for C?

Danger yoyoing in scores a bit.
Gaz physically doesnt look 100% but is doing serviceable.
Hanners hasn't dropped below 100 this season.

Leaning hanners but danger is enticing.

Mike

Gawn's 93 looks good considering what Goldy did lol

Cliffy

Hmm Ben Kennedy with a score between 65-70… Maybe it wasn't so bad putting him on the bench this week, just a quiet mention in opting to play AMT and McCarthy for Fwd rookies this week

Cliffy

Worst case scenario with the on field Fwd rookies I have named to play they only get 10-20 point less

Cliffy

I'm really glad that BenKen made his BE though. 🙂

Shinboner

Neale just had one of the lowest scoring 39 disposal games I've ever seen.

Luviboy1

If the bloke only used it better he would be a bloody lock.

Shinboner

Make that 40.

Luviboy1

What will BenKens BE be roughly after his score of 65?

Andrew

Think around 55-60

Nath

defender curse continues this year… Laird ankle

Tophawk

How bad is it? Will he miss many weeks?

tuxCS

Say it aint so Nath, I HAD MY TRADES AND STRUCTURE PLANNED 🙁

Nath

Didn't play last quarter… Haven't heard if weeks yet, let's hope just precaution

tuxCS

Petracca looked like he had some first-game nerves, he was making a lot of fumbles but he was getting a lot of it and he looked quite smooth in the action of getting the ball. 63 from a game where he butchered it a lot is quite a good sign IMO, am looking forward to this kid.

magpie4ver

Yes. That's why Ive waited til 3rd game to bring him in……see how he goes next week!

tuxCS

I've had him in since the beginning.

magpie4ver

Well if you haven't grabbed Shaw yet you better next week? He will not drop in price!

Liam

Picked him up this week, pretty happy with that selection.

tuxCS

Same here Liam.

magpie4ver

Good on yeah.

derek

i agree. he is having a field day today. he loves getting his hands on the ball. i thought the Hawks would have tried to shut him down today, but they have enough other worries at the moment.

all week i was going to get Shaw in for Fyfe, but it messed my structure up, i would have had to have McGovern on the field, so i went JPK instead and will look at getting Shaw next week. Will miss out on his points this week though. I assume most people have Shaw by now, those that don't will get him next week.

magpie4ver

No worries mate…just better grab him next week because I dont think he drops after this? Get him while you can. Next 6 weeks he will be busy and that's good.

Tophawk

Shaw is on fire. I had him from the start and despite some early jitters, I knew he would come good. It was worth getting him in from the start as the backline has so many inconsistent players at the moment, let alone injuries and suspensions. And he will go up in price next week like you say. Coaches are just going to have to pull the trigger and get the guy in, instead of timing his price. It never works out. Cheers

magpie4ver

He has met hid BE in the last 2 weeks and they were high….I would suspect this will be the lowest he goes? Get him this week…if not he will be tough to obtain?

Northernsoul74

Was always gong to come good. Number 1 defender in the game.

BigHaydos

Libba and r gray gone as soon as I wake up Monday morning! Barlow and Boyd welcome my team! Bang bang

magpie4ver

Dont dump Libba 1 bad game against a good side….dont be hasty. Keep libba for now

Southern S

Agree he hit his be even with the injury hold.

Northernsoul74

He might struggle to get up for next week. Hearing it's a very heavy knock.

Southern S

Ah well even one week out I'll keep him. If he hits 80-90% of his previous form he's a keeper at M7M8. Hasn't bled and has scored alright so far off modest performances .

Barlows Mum

hahaha, 3 weeks ago peeps were burning Barlow.

hedski

Stanley and Mackie out for the cats Vardy and Lang in..

hedski

Richmond MacIntosh out Castagna???? In

Kev

Bvc mentioned him in the rookie roundup this week

"Jason Castagna – A rebounding defender who was upgraded from Richmonds rookie list in March and has been ticking along in their VFL side decently. He had 23 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles and 4 inside 50’s last week. If Dimma wants to swing the axe then he could be brought in."

Shake n bake

Keep Kennedy or start McCarthy??

hedski

I'm going little abe lincoln. Reckon I'll give menapoo a crack at petraccs 63 as well.

Shake n bake

Just wish he got at least 10 more pts might go McCarthy.

magpie4ver

Both

Shake n bake

Can't have Wyatt as loophole

Tophawk

Gee whiz. Hawthorn being caned by GWS. Up by 64 points close to 3 quarter time. SAM Mitchell spudding badly with 45 SC points.

BundyBear

cool. love it. Go GWS 🙂

Dee

We have half a team we will get a 4peat easily and gws are shit

Southern S

They have a lot of talent.

Brett

R gray > selwood or hanners … toss a coin ?

Tophawk

yep. both guns.

Brett

Left field … retain gray and upgrade r davis to and underpriced marc Murphy @ 440k !

Mills will have to play as m8 until gray comes back or just sideways trade to a premium

Nicholas

Well I am done this year this bug screwed up my bye structure and plans going forward and it wasted a precious trade since I only have 22 left now.I am now 10-15-5. I will see you boys next year I am out.

Southern S

Don't be so quick to write yourself off Nicholas have faith!

Northern N

Mate you can't write your entire season off based on one trade

Flex350

Well I think it was better than trading in Fyfe and getting the injury the same week.
Suggest (if you are over 18) crack a beer or a rum and move on too next week.

Roy

Do i take kennedys 69 or play davis or keays on field?

Pom

Take it mate

Derek

Take it. Only 1 less than 70 🙂

Tophawk

Aaaaaahhhhhhhh Heath Shaw and Callan Ward make me very happy. Both kick ass and get me big supa coach points!!!!

Welcome!

Southern S

What a win over the hawks seriously impressive how far gws have come. Will be an interesting finals series this year me thinks

Tophawk

You are not wrong there mate. GWS tore Hawthorn a new hole. I have not seen my beloved Hawks get smashed like that for a very very long time. Bloody shell shocked!
GWS are now a real threat for the flag.

Cheers Southern S

Southern S

Bit of a fortress over there at spotless, 2 150+ point games and a win over Geelong. Nothing lucky about those wins that's for sure. Hawks in Melbourne come finals is a different story though…………

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How much is Goldsteins price likely to drop after Friday nights poor showing?