THE STANDING ROOM – Round 5
How’s your team travelling folks?
Have you sustained any underpant soilings after Friday night with your Mitchells, your Gibsons, your Lairds?
Let’s chew the fat about the round in progress.
Well done to ROCK.. leads the charge for the $1000 this week after a stunning national win on Friday night:
It's official. The Cloke of Invisibility has been DROPPED @PeterHiggo #CoachKings pic.twitter.com/T6OIyiTJIl
— Jock Reynolds (@jock_reynolds) April 23, 2016
Dea or DBJ on the ground ?
Dea mate
Dea…proven 70+ a week.
lol
Ouch
Bit of last minute help please!
Barlow and S Gray to Fyfe and Byrne Jones
Or
Papley and S Gray to Kolo and Byrne Jones
or
Papley to Byrne Jones
Or
S Gray to Byrne Jones
Thanks
Papley and S.Gray.
Cheers!
Anymore opinions guys and gals?
Yeah, don't trade aha
Gosh I hope you traded Mr. Burn Sam Gray.
Hey guys,
SC Draft starting choices to be made:
First in defense, start Fantasia or Biggs for Defender 3?
And secondly, start Greene or Riewoldt (Nick) for Forward 3?
I'd go Biggs and Rooey
Well I hope you didn't listen to Leeds! lol
well done for offering your opinion and setting him on the right path.. Oh wait just another after the fact sniper. Jog on.
First year Supercoacher here community – picked up plenty of wisdom already from these boards. Had a bit of a conundrum this week with B Crouch on my bench along with Gore and Keays. Davis going down meant I needed to trade one of them to get a full team on the field.
Because I needed to trade JJ anyway. I ended up trading JJ to DBJ and then upgraded Davis to Ward. Too late now but wondering whether I should have traded Crouch, Keays (not too late) or Gore instead, or should I just cop a doughnut to conserve a trade and keep Davis's cash generation (I'd be down to 23 trades if I do both trades this week). Keen to hear everyones thoughts. Would've liked to drop Papley instead but unfortunately don't have an DPP players in my mids atm – potentially another issue and question whether I should get in a forward instead of Ward and put Hall in my mids to give me some flexibility there. Team at the moment (including the trades I mentioned) is:
Houli, Shaw, Kolo, Weitering, Dea, DBJ, (Hartley, Brown)
Ablett, Fyfe, Parker, Ward, Libba, Wines, Mills (Crouch, Gore, Keays)
Hall, Wells, Greene, Adams, Kennedy, AMT (Kerridge, Papley)
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Though Davis is listed as rested wouldn't surprise me if we didn't see him again this for a while even the season,
You're relying a bit heavly on mids to do the scoring for you with so many rookies on field though they've been scoring well,
I would suggest just picking up the bargain premos now over the next 4-5 weeks Dusty & Wingard maybe, I'm looking at Hodge as POD in midfield will be very cheap soon.
do't stress to much you look well placed
Cheers Leeds, will stay pat then. Yea agree on the fwd and def lines – JJ going down didn't help! Thinking was to start with the mids as a priority as the most consistent high scoring looked to generally come from them. Will definitely look to fwd and def fallen premos over the next 4-5 weeks – cheers for the advice
Crouch should be back next week (likely) or the one after
doubt crouch will be back next week, not listed to play in the sanfl this week and would expect crows would want him to play at least one before coming back to afl side
Paps or L McCarthy on the ground. Been raining in Syd.
Mccarthy. Can you loophole Paps?
Unfortunately no
Leaning towards McCarthy, fresh and raring to go.
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30 trades left and sitting in top 200. Trade Pap to DBJ or hold off. Either way, neither would be on field. All bench rookies playing bar davis and gresham. Look to upgrade sheridan in a couple of weeka. Any thoughts?
I would do the trade just for cash generation
agreed, though if you're producing cash alright you could hold and have yourself in a crazy good trade situation come byes
Both previous replies provide your options. I have the same dilemma with 29 trades and sitting top 1000. Was going to trade Papley to DBJ and Barlow to Zorko (who I wanted prior to round one). Am now thinking to just trade Paps to DBJ and assess my options to possibly bring in Zorko and Fyfe/Ward over the next two rounds. Papley to DBJ allows me to swing AMT to the fwd line and provide DPP options with M Brown and Adams. The one trade also allows me to assess Barlow/Greene and others such as BKen and Menadue as trade options. Darcy Tucker may also be one to watch and Petracca and Keays should not be far off being included and will provide good downgrade targets.
Couldn't agree with you more. Need the cash as I only have $80,000 so thinking i'll bring in DBJ for some quick cash and hope to dodge injuries in comjng rounds and then bang bang soon enough!
Let me get this straight. You have not traded in the first 4 rounds. You are in the top 200 and your are asking US for advice? Get a grip.
I'm saying what kevwal says ……….
Can anyone explain to me why Jacobs is scoring so low? It seems he is getting enough of the ball and enough hit-outs to warrant a decent score. But once again he gets a 75. Quite frustrating.
I have Sauce and thought he played really well. 10 hit outs to advantage 17 possessions at 65% Eff. 2 frees for and none against. 9 pressure acts,8 score involvements and 3 clearanaces for 75 measly points. Very frusting
Check his hit outs to advantage maybe
Playing well and still scoring poorly is a major worry. God forbid he actually has a bad game. A definite 'sauce of frustration' as Pieman would say.
Jacob owners may have to look at trading him soon to one of the Big 3 as 5 weeks in with a sub 80 average and still tonless is just not tolerable for the dollars invested I would've thought. Will bleed another $20K unfortunately.
The whole SC scoring can sometimes be frustrating. Last night I thought Mitchell deserved more points. Sure he had the occasional clanger and chips it around a bit, but 87 for 31 midfield possessions?
I had Mitchell as well as Sauce Big G so am licking my wounds on those SC scores. Was expecting 100+ for each but not to be
Yes it was bit of a funky game SC scoring wise. Only 5 tons across the board and 3 of them only barely.
Laird too had a pretty good game but could only piece together a SC score in the 70s with a much higher DT score. But Jacobs SC scoring has been a problem all season so far.
Maybe Danger not being at the stoppages has something to do with it?
Also guys,
Who to give the C to for SC Draft this week?
R.Gray, Parker or Hall?
Also guys,
Who to name as C for SC Draft this week?
R.Gray, Parker or Hall?
Whoops, thought the last post didn't go through went I posted again…
*when I
Gray. Should bounce back after a poor week last week. Hall if you want a smoky, been in fantastic touch
Guys, anyone know when the collingwood v essendon teams will be finalised? Cheers.
About 5pm AEST.
Thanks mate.
One thing I noticed about last nights game was not many, if any, deliberate out of bounds. Maybe the umps are getting a bit less strict on them. 85 stoppages last night, higher than average for the year.
De Goey or Papley for Byrne-Jones?
papley
Hope you went Degoey…
I'm still bloody so confused community.
I want to get in Byrne-Jones, however the only player I can get him in for at this stage is Papley who I want to keep in. If Papley spuds up again, there are not a lot of players who are on the bubble next week so I will be stuck with him… so even though I want to keep Papley, i feel we have to get rid of him.
Thoughts?
Menadue or Davis to DBJ or hold
What's Trent McKenzie's BE ?
105
Was 105, and will be about 150+ after this round. Expect another 15-20K to be wiped off his value this week.
Which 3 of Kennedy / AMT / Kerridge / DBJ would you have on the field this week? Currently have Kerridge on the bench
VC on Goldy or Ablett?
Goldy
15 mins and counting , decision time
jj – t mc / dbl
pap – gray/pendles/hanners/ward
Is downgrading to one of the bubble boys this week a neccessity? Have 28 trades and think they will be worth more later. Feel as though people are trading to get the quick influx of cash when the rookies we already have will get you there with just a little more time.
Already have most of the rooks (bar this weeks bubbles boys and petracca) and 245k in the bank. I have no real issues with underperforming premos either so my only real option is to go Menadue or Papley down. I dont think its worth it. Keen to here peoples thoughts. Cheers
Has been discussed all week. I'm holding and wait for the rookies to fatten properly
However many other good players are trading hard to generate cash.
Will depend on the type of player you are
I was going with Priddis as my VC but the weather in Sydney looks rubbish. Might be a low scoring game.
Think that will help a contested ball beast like Priddis.
Agree. Priddis loves wet
So does JPK
You'll never let JPK go Derek 😉
Same thing I'm wrestling with, Feel as though is you have most of the other rooks and something decent in the bank its a wasted trade. Trying to get a quick cash grab when Papley still has money to be made. One good score from the Papsmear will turn things round very quickly
Darcy Tucker from Freo is playing this week, he was very very good in nab 1 before injury ruled him out. Watch him as a potential def downgrade in a few weeks
What do people think about umpiring atm? Many condemning the umpires, but I see it as the associations fault. The rules are wrong.
The only thing I get annoyed at with the umpires are when they make a 50/50 call just to stamp their authority. You see this often in the centre, where two big units are smashing into eachother, grappling eachother all game in the ruck… Yet every once in a while an umpire decides this sport shouldn't be too rough and steps in and pulls a free kick out of his ass. Same for a high ball with two players under it jostling – often you see a player being awarded a free kick for simply being out muscled off the ball! As a spectator I don't want to see that crap! Afl is meant to be rough. I don't need some umpire awarding a cheap free kick for a hand placed on the back… Or a free kick for a big tackle.. Or "chopping the arms"… Most of these calls I find are too soft these days. When a genuine free kick is there it's obvious I think. We can all see when a player is unfairly pushed in the back, tackled in the back, when chopping the arms actually prevented the mark happening, when a kick is less than 15 m.. . I could go on all day. I just want to see play on called more often. Rules have gone too far in trying to protect players.
Too long didn't read: umpires need to let fifty fifty decisions go.
I have 450k in my war chest and so want to upgrade Davis to either Robbie Gray or Callan Ward because I feel that its a bit too much cash to just be sitting on the pine.
I can afford anyone but these two stick out in my mind as the must haves!
Others include Luke Parker, Sam Mitchell, Matt Priddis. But are now locked out and so I would have to wait another week to pick them up.
Other Mids include Ablett, Fyfe, Danger, Selwood, Hall, Libba, Kennedy, Kerridge, (Mills, Menadue, DAVIS)
Any thoughts?
Hold davis he is only rested
Despite Papley's lively first quarter, he has butchered the footy severely. To put it in perspective he has 51 fantasy points and only 25 SC points for his efforts at the quarter time break.
25 a quarter will do me Tophawk!
I hear ya. Well he is right on track. 53SC points at half time. Another 10 points and he will be making cash again. I made one trade this week. No guessing what that was. Papley out for DBJ. That decision is looking more sour with every passing quarter. You get that…………….
You can't win 'em all mate
Makes me laugh with Papley me holding a player payed off for once, however he is on my bench. But damn. Parker and Priddis looking good I want to get them in my team soon. My Nic Nat vc isnt lookign too good like last week but some guy said he had parker vc he'd be pretty happy
Me too mate! I was annoyed that I benched him, but remembered that he will get us some cash on the pine or on the field…so it's still a good move (for once).
I'm usually the bloke who holds and watches the wretched arsehole score a 10…or trades while they get a cricket score!
Well done
When in doubt, hold
Yep happy to admit I may have got the papley call wrong…..
He looks A good player in the wet conditions
So people regretting they dumped Papsmear?
Starting to look that way. The little man is having a day out. I did not expect that from him in the first half. No going back. DBJ will have to continue to gain cash in Pap's place. Cheers
Was tossing up trading papsmear to byrne, happy I held off.
Still got DBJ by trading out Milera.
Having a good week
No!
Hold Papsmear….
You're not alone, Swans! His d.e is the only thing that's making me not cry in the corner
VC on Goldy or Gaz???
Fyfe captain
Hall
I got Papley in after his two hundreds, I had him on the field for his 40 and 20. Traded him out and he's gonna tonne up…what have I done to the super coach gods?!
Same brother, being mad is an understatement.
Papley can EAD !
Made Parker VC and smashing it at the moment being on 78 at half time and on track for 130.
Lol at the people who traded Papley. His break even will be back in the negatives after this game.
he could be a lot better. Half time 85DT but only 54 SuperCoach, only going at 50% eff.
Mills on 49 at half time.
He's gone cold this quarter. Might not even breakeven. Haha.
Barely broke even and got reported…
His break even won't be in the negatives, even after this game his 3 round average is still below 50
Ha Ha Ha. Agree
It'll be about 35. What do you think DBJ's B/E will be? I'll take DJB's 100+ on the field, thanks though. 😀
Have l done the loop hole right vc on fyfe…put d wyatt (coll) on the field who is not playing and made captain…emergency on l mc carthy, as my captain is not playing l get the vc score for fyfe and the emergency score for mccarthy is that right?
If fyfe goes shit then l can put wyatt back onnthe bech bring mccarthy on and move the captain to danger
Thanks community.
No because Danger plays before Fyfe. Put the VC on Danger
Oh shit thanks mate….if l do it like that…then l have it right?
I think so.
everyone who traded Paply can suck it….
he's only just over his breakeven.
He will only make peanuts this week. Only just passed his break even with 74. He fizzled out late in the game.
I liked that he played well and his JS looks good.
I am happy I made the Papley trade and bank a extra $115k rather then miss out on Byrne-Jones.
It's a NO brainer really because Papley will NOT make you the extra cash players like Byrne-Jones, Wagner or C Byrne will make you unless Papley starts to ton up in his next couple of games.
Anyone know what score Mills is on now?
66. Look at fan footy mate. Great website. Just look up Fan Footy.
Thanks Tom
87 now.
He done good
91sc
Papley due to rise 2-8K. Welcome
It's all about the next 3 weeks against the Lions, Dons and Tiges. Could make another $100K now that his JS looks golden.
Welcome! 🙂
If it were not for his clangers he would have pumped out 100 today
did you keep him Addict? Because I didn't
I did hold the Smear but I had JJ to trade out for DBJ so I guess there was a silver lining to Top Deck Down.
BINGO!!!!!
Hey who should i go captain since nic nat got 115 i think ill risk it:
Danger, ablett, fyfe, gawn, gray
Danger
Risk it by asking people who out of 4 choices you should go for? Living life on be edge. You almost made a decision for yourself.
Take Nic Nat's 115 or go Ablett or Fyfe!!
He is 91 now. Hopefully with scaling will end up on around 95. I will have to emergency loophole Millsy's score now. He has done well.
That is borderline for me. Either Fyfe or Danger (If you have him) for me. Just be mindful that showers are forecast for Perth later tomorrow arvo.
Ill go fyfe i think danger might spud it and freo have carlton
good choice!
Borderline for me also Tophawk, I'll stick with Fyfe!! More confident with him over Ablett or Dangerfield, don't have Goldy but the C would of been on him, will go massive!!
Appreciate your thoughts-
Do I take Mitch McGoverns score of 73?
Would be in place of one of the following players-
Kerridge
BenKen
AMDT
Take it
But if you don't go with tipa
For those that went from Paps to DBJ, ouch!!
He ended up with 78 SC points. A good effort but that is only 15 points above his break even. He might rise by 5K max. I reckon DBJ will jump by 40K plus. I am quite comfortable with my decision to trade out paps for him. I aint gonna slash my wrists over it!
A waisted trade for a 100k..
100k is not a wasted trade lol
Sideways trade when a player is underperforming is a wasted trade
Anything can happen in sc always remember this Paps could poo out a 40 next week or get injured ect
But he did ok today 🙂
A bit tough to upgrade to a premo with 100k..
You do realise you can't paint the fence with every rookie lol
Cashing in 100k and not missing the boat on DBJ is a sound trade seeing as you will net an extra 200k from this one trade
You won't get 300k from Paps
it's 100k plus what DJB will make over the next few weeks, which off his last 2 games looks like another 100k-150k maybe even a little more.
I did it and glad I did so. DBj looks the goods. No one will risk Papley on field after his 20's. Same cannot be said for DBJ. His100 was nice. I had the sweats at 1/4 time with Syd but now I'm glad.
DBJ 103 OUCH
Have him too mate. Hahaha
Still not a bad call……………………
Hey guys, which two to put on field out of
– Byrne Jones
– Ben Kennedy
– AMT
It's looking like a tough decision.
Cheers
AMT and Kennedy IMO
Thanks mate. I feel they are more proven so should go with them
Ouch
Yeah I think easy decision, leave out DBJ
Think I am forced to take Parkers 129 and loop it with Hewetts 70
If I don't choose the safe way then I would probably go Danger captain and play Kennedy over taking Hewetts score.
Don't think the risk is worth the 30-40+ potential this this time.
Every premo mid is having a hard time cracking the 130+ this year
Take the 129 x 2
Kennedy will get close to 70
Papley as sub, just don't need Petracca to wreck the loophole and get a late call up.
Will be watching to see If he runs out for Casey Scorpions tonight.
Goldy will score 200 today
The way he is going he nail 200 right on the head! At quarter time he is already on 50 SC points.
51 at quarter time
Usually the 2nd half of sc scoring is very spread
So he is actually more likely to score 160-170
But I he could kick another 3 goals and do the 200
Need a 120+ at half time to crack 200 usually
Glad i have the vc on him.
Made the papley trade but my devastation pendant on if he backs that performance up next week or goes back to his last fortnight scores. More annoyed with wasting my vc loophole on pridis and even more worried by how the opposition turned his half time 50 odd to a game total of 80, hopefully this doesn't happen after every time he has a cracking half.
Mills cracked out a 94 and happy to bank that, my new dilemma is to play Kerrige or Ben ken or Amt
Thoughts anyone??
Play Kerridge in my opinion. He has been steady and looks pretty solid and calm under pressure
Ablett's leg looks stuffed.
Very glad he is not in my team!
I KNEW IT. Ablett is carrying an injury. It is blatantly obvious now. My decision to start Callan Ward in favour over Gazza at the start of the season looks like being the right call. I bet Jock will be in an "I told you so" mood on next week's podcast.
Not sure he'll be gloating much Tophawk.
In case you didn't know Jock traded in Gaz for Pendles a few weeks ago so it could be a 2 trade whammy for the FoF if Gaz breaks down.
I don't really take pleasure in the fact that god might be carrying an injury. I don't want him to break down for his sake, and I do have him in my fantasy team. It's just tough luck for Jock at this point. He will just have to manage his way through this possible setback. Gazza still seems to be getting the pill at the moment though and he may be able to play his way through it. Time shall tell. Cheers
Been bloody tough taking his 125 average so far!
yeah agree Kev 125 avg over the likes of starting with Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Priddis has been tough
Even with a bung ankle, bruised shin, crushed ribs and dodgy shoulder he'll still bust out a ton.
Ablett looks sore. Could be lucky to finish game
Calf strapped
What's better trade jj for dbj or trade up for docherty ??
Suggestions anyone
hmm I have gawn and nic nat so i guess I wont be getting goldy unless there are injuries 🙁
I'm in the same boat, I havent burnt trades yet but think this is one that mnay have to be done. He continually gets very soft/ questionable frees and pump out massive scores. Could potentially avg 15-20 ppg more than the next best ruck. Question is who would you get rid of Gawn or Nic Nat?
Ohhh dear……. LOL Did he trade him in did he? He would be friggin suicidal now. hahaha
Who to put the C on out of gray, Dangerfield, and Fyfe?
I like Fyfe at Domain against the blues, just ahead of Gray or Danger who should both do well tonight.
Ablett's leg looks stuffed.
Goldy's score or Fyfe as C???
Goldy
Sorry guys didnt mean to retap original post. Jock, say it isn't true. You traded in Ablett?
should i start benny kennedy or AMT????
AMT
I am leaning to AMT also. Close call mind you.
Would you loophole Hewett's 70 ahead of whatever Barlow (fwd) or DeGoey (mid) might score????
Back in Barlow for sure.
Papley holders should be pretty happy but can't complain trading him for bubble boy Byron-Jones. Papley barely broke even and could be rubbed out. I reckon DBJ has good job security, he's been a shining light for an otherwise shizen port side. Should make a good amount of cash from here on, that 90+ score will stay with him for a couple more games.
Sorry
So Goldy C instead of Fyfe???
The only problem, my opposition has him and need a POD.
love it when i stuff this captain stuff up, not because i dont know how to loophole but because im just a nuffy in general
changed my VC to Goldy but forgot to change my captain from Ablett, :(((((((((((
Snap
Man that sucks. I think we've all made similar stuff ups in the past.
Hopefully the Little Master can transcend his bodily difficulties and produce a huge 2nd half.
Barlow no way. De Goey I'd consider, but no as well.
what do people reckon of this I ain't complaining about this just do not understand sc scoring sometimes
So Goldy 8 disposals and 2 goals with some hit outs to adv = 52 pts at qtr time.
Then adds 2 disposals at 100% with again some hit outs to adv = 32 pts taking him to 84 pts at half time.
Gravy train?
Is it me or is Waite starting to look like the real deal?
I think big forwards are relive the again seeing as mids are rested more now with rule changes on interchange that will reduce the points for them leaving more up for grabs to the big boys who stay on field 99% of the time.
Relevant sorry
Hey guys, a question outside of this Round, I have 25 trades remaining following the end of this Round, is that still reasonably on par in terms of trades you should have remaining?
I reckon at the start of the byes you need to have at least 14 left min.
But that's just me, others will say 7-8
You mean 14 after Full Premo?
Most go Full Premo after/during byes
Byes are later this year. After byes need at lest 6-7
Aren't they usually rounds 10/11 to 12/13?
13,14,15 this year.
besr around 19 then 7 during buyes leves 12 might sound like a bit much but the last 4 weeks players will be rested
What's better trade jj for dbj or trade up for docherty ??
Need help not sure about dbj job security …or go with a lock in Docherty?
Ablett looks sore. Could be lucky to finish game
But that's just me, others will say 7-8
fellas, im conflicted, do i pocket parkers 129 or bank on fyfe going ballistic against carlton. is he going to go bananas hungry for thier first win or will he go soft and let his back up sort things out?
I would take that in a heartbeat having taken dangers dodgy scores twice
Bank it for sure
Take Paley's score with loophole or play mcCarthy on field?
Taking Papley's score me thinks
Definitely take Papsmears
I chose McCarthy over Mcgoven and paps
Scored a point extra there derek bang significant
Should i use the emg loophole with adams or kerridge in the forward line?
I would like to take Goldy's VC score however, I put Mills on my bench with emergency and put Davis on field, so now i cannot get Goldy's VC score unless i take Keridige off the midfield and put the E on him and put Dunkley on the field as Captain.
My query is, if I have two mid fielders on the field that aren't playing and put the emergency on two on the bench that are playing will they both cover my two non players that are on the field?
I have a similar situation with my bench this week, but not sure what happens…
Fairly sure u only get one emergency score and it'll be the lowest one. Check the sc rules to confirm
Roll with goldys' score or Fyfe tomorrow .. 20 mins
Hawk if I have two mid fielders on the field that don't play and put the emergency on two on the bench that are playing will they both cover my two non players that are on the field in my midfield?
Yes
thanx lamme i was stressing out
only 59 stoppages in north/Suns game.
That is why Goldy only got 125
Hope i done the right move, I deliberately had Mills on bench as Emergency, but i put Davis on ground to get Mills points.
I had Goldy as VC and hope I get his scores because last minute I took Kerredige off and made him my 2nd emergency in the midfield and put Dunkly on and made him my captain.
So if I have two mid fielders on the field that aren't playing and put the emergency on two on the bench that are playing will they both cover my two non players that are not playing in my midfield?
Goldy only the 124 that's a shame 🙂
People will be panicking now for a good captain alternative
What % of trade ins will peter wright have this week?
point chasers all over the supercoach world
Decisions decisions! I usually go by the rule of locking in a vc that is 130+ and goldy just below that at 125. After a few crouching one rum cans am i getting too greedy going for danger as captain against port??
Danger already burnt me a few weeks back, so I think I'll take Goldys 125
Any idea why G. Ablett and A. Hall scored so low, they certainly had enough of the ball!
Ablett is playing injured and it is starting to look pretty bad, he has totally lost that explosive turn of foot like Black Caviar had,
I will wait another week or so but I will be doing a sideways trade from Gazza to Gray or Parker.
Didn't help that he picked up a corkie in the first. Trade him only when his scores begin to suffer. As long as he's smashing out 100's he stays in my side.
Hall plenty of junktime in the 4th
You're an idiot.
should i use the loophole on goldys 125 or try my luck on fyfe
Damn I thought about bringing in Suckling this week glad I didn't looks like he has knee issue?
Feel bad for those who did
its just a medial strain and was back on as soon as the 2nd Quarter started. However IF the doggies can break away from the Lions in the 2nd half I would like to see them rest Suckling and keep him fresh for next week against the Roo's coz the last thing the dogs need is Suckling's medial ligament to become from a Grade 1 to a grade 2,3 or 4
Not worth risking a player like him when we are down two of our best running defenders and you can already see the Dogs aren't anywhere as clean and precise in defence like they were with Murphy & JJ and this will test them against the top 6 sides.
I'm not watching but is Rich even playing?
And those who traded wines would be spewing cause hes off to a nice start even hittting his targets. Also what do we do with Bartel 0 touches nrly 1st qtr time