The Round 5 Cheat Sheet

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Supercoach 2016 midpriced forwardsG’day community Lekdog here,

This weeks cheat sheet is here for your pleasure. I’ll stress that outside of injury or really, really poor form there actually is no pressure to trade this week.

If you are set on trading we have a few downgrade options in Byrne, Wagner, Byrne-Jones and Cockatoo and as for upgrades just make sure they fit into your bye structures.


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I N Pieman

Some midfield downgrade options would be nice! All bloody defenders, Thoughts on Sumner Lek? Any JS


just hold off for now, freeman, mathieson, gore and even petracca are about ot make their debuts and will score pretty well


Ben Keays surely

Southern S

One game with a 45? Blaine Boekhorst back from a hammy in a week. Avoid.

There might be some midfield downgrade options soon but you'd want to wait for them on the bubble so probably looking at 3-6 weeks on one.


Sumner is out for the year


What are you talking about?


Dropping Papley for DBJ. Any point holding Hewett?

Southern S

If he's not named this week I think hewett is going to struggle to get in with McVeigh back. Also Gary Rohan only one week away so that door will probably close even further.


Not so sure Rohan is a walk up start in Syd best 22. He will definitely have to earn a spot via the NEAFL. Just a "good ordinary" player at Best is Rohan.

Southern S

I know what you mean but pretty easy to dump an under performing 20 year old and play a guy who has more experience.


Hold Hewett this week your trades are precious,
Hold Papley if you think he can break 65,


I think I'm going to take a punt this week and trade out Johannisen and Papley for Byrne and Byrne-Jones. Take the money and upgrade Hartley to a premo and a midfield rookie to a keeper next week. Will be a slight hit to the team this week, but it's another week to of "form" to make sure I get the right Premo's in.

Southern S

Like this strategy with a lack of clear downgrade options in other positions upcoming.


my plan too … other option is to use part cash to upgrade JJ. But with a few rookies misfiring, we will need to bring in some fresh cash cows and there are 2 good options this week. For my trading plans, I need at least 5 more between R5-9 so getting two now makes good sense, despite the look ys hit this week. Great point about another week of form too … if Docherty tons up v freo he certainly goes up in my estimation (worth the $10-15k price rise)


I'm doing exactly the same double trade this week. Leaves me with $565k to mop up a couple fallen premiums in the next two-three rounds


Byrne baby Byrne!!!

Actually I'll probably be doing the same thing myself.


Same, doesn't look like any significant bubble rookies will emerge for rd 6, so double downgrade for rd 5, pocket 500 large, then double upgrade for round 6.


Great moves and I think the Pap Smear must GO to Byrne-Jones. Keeping the smear in the underpants will only cause a dilemma and allot more washing of clothes. WELCOME

Bruiser maaate

Not sure what to do with the Stef Martin situation. Want to hold him but have grimley as 3rd ruck. Have $224k in bank and am likely to trade papley out and swing AMT forward bringing in byrne-jones or wagner so will have make hewett into Tippett? Hope martin plays but i very much doubt it.

Southern S

Not sure if using a trade on tippet is wise, I'd probably just cop the donut on Martin, but then again I'm going for league wins not overall rank so my objectives are different.


Rory Lobb F6/R3 swing man. Or will J. Cameron reduce his scores?

Southern S

Geez he gets some poor scores though.


lol Bach a bit stiff to cop the orange

Southern S



Barlow to DBJ
Gresham to Ward

Thoughts community?

Southern S

Hold Barlow, has appeared to stop bleeding, Be of 88 and no Mundy again this week.

Jonathan Camac

I actually don't mind the trade, personally. But tis hard to justify the Barlow trade now. Go with your gut.


what to do with S Gray?? I can trade him to someone like Merrett or Franklin or even Zorko in the Forward line, or get Sloane or JPK in the mids. What would you do and why? what is the better option.(I would be doing the Papley to Byrne-jones trade to facilitate this)

Southern S

I like all the options you've presented there, just gotta go with your gut on one.

I feel like Sloane and JPK are sharing midfield time with a lot of other midfielders that get the ball a lot, but they are both proven scorers.

Zorko proven, Buddy proven and both are in great form.

Merrett having a breakout year with an important role in the new look dons. Can the 20 year old keep it up? I say yes but it's risky and he's not cheap.


Rookie question boys

I want to get DBJ into my team for Papsmear

I have tippa in my FWD and Adams in my Def as DPP

Can wrap my head around how to do the DPP trade, can someone help?


when you select papley for trade, but before you pick your "trade in choice", it will give you the option to sub brown into the forward line and then you will notice once youve done that, your "trade in choice" will only be defenders as options


Ah legend worked it out now cheers

Jonathan Camac

Instead of picking Laird in place of Johannisen, is Suckling a good pick community? Saves me an extra $100k, just not sure if he'll be consistent in scoring. Thoughts community?

Boltons Blues

with bob murphy and now JJ down for the year and atleast 6 weeks and more respectively, sucking should be that rebound defender they need


Had suckling from the start. Hadn't failed but hadn't fired up. Was about to trade when Murphy went down. So I kept him and was rewarded with the 120 odd. Expecting 100s from him from now on


The defence this year is more volatile then any other year. In the past years Shaw was our saving grace however this year rookies are scoring better then our premo's. I think saving the $100k on Suckling is a huge plus in defence because any number of players can end up top 6 defenders this year including maybe a rookie or two.

Never say never.


Shoosh don't tell everyone. Had him from the start and will serve me well as a swing man from D6 to F6.

Jonathan Camac

Thanks for the input guys! Was slightly leaning towards Suckling before this chat, but now it is a definite 😉


I have $41,500 and Papley. Any advice on who to pick up for around $265,000. Comments and help always appreciated from the good Community.


Zac Dawson

He started the year with "Fyfe-like" output – round 1. (yes they both scored 61)

Southern S

Jarryd Lyons…….maybe.


Downgrad Papsmear to Byrne-Jones


No one. Hold and build your warchest up to someone worthwhile.


DPP TRade to Byrne Jones to build up warchest and make more money.
Lyons has no proven js
Everyone else too expensive

SC God

K.Langford is a good option


If youve got Tippa and Adams down back then trade Paps, move Adams/Tippa fwd and bring in the cheap defender

Southern S

This is the best plan.


Community Dayne Beams could return in round 6


Had an absolute shocker this week and with this being my first year of supercoach, I really have no clue what to do with my team now. Any suggestions would be appreciated! 🙂

Johannisen, J, Laird R, Adams M,
Gibson J, Weitering J, Dea M (Brown M, Ruggles T)

Dangerfield P, Parker L, Fyfe N, Gray R, Liberatore T,
Priddis M, Mills C, Young A (Davis R, Hewett G, Dunkley J)

Gawn M, Naitanui N (Grimley S)

Hall A, Wells D, Kerridge S, Greene T,
Kennedy B, Barlow M (Menadue C, McDonald-Tigungwut)

$173, 500 Left over


your team looks good trade JJ and wait to see the team line ups


Hey biggy,

1. Trade Johannisen to a defender who you think will finish in the top 10 at year end, OR trade Johann to a rookie defender who has played two games, of which there are a few, and pocket plenty of $$$ for your first/next upgrade.

That's it i reckon.

Tooserious has a stats page i find helpful.


Sweet I'll check it out man thanks a lot. 🙂


Biggy hit the red T on Johannisen and bring in Byrne-Jones from Port Adelaide.

Secondly hit the Trade on B Kennedy in your forward line and then you will see a grey (S) next to M Brown in defence click on that and this will then allow you to bring in Ciaron Byrne from Carlton. By making these 2 trades this will give you $676,800 in cash for the following week so then you can upgrade 2 players and bring in two elite premo's.

Your side actually looks bloody awesome to be honest as you have avoided picking the fallen premiums. Also by not choosing Ablett might actually be a great move because he looks to be playing in quite allot of pain.
It is just unfortunate that you had JJ who got injured, along with Priddis & Gibson who didn't play and also R Gray who done very little which is why you scored $hit hose this week.

How many trades do you have left?


Ah thanks for the tips! I have 25 trades left and have been learning to be a bit less trade happy as I go. 😛 Just curious though how do you judge when to trade off players such as Kennedy, Kerridge and the like?


Dont trade ben kennedy yet! His Breakeven is very achievable. Get rid of dunkley or hewitt doing nothing on your bench.

The Ranger

There's no hard and fast rules Biggy but a general rule is don't trade rookies until their BE is greater than their average.
If in doubt do nowt. Trades are precious.


Chasing the car a bit on Hanley. He'd be more attractive as a def/mid. Rocky comes back in this week and Beams isn't far away which equals less midfield minutes for Hanley


First trade option is JJ to DBJ
Papley via DPP (Kerridge) to Tom Mitchell

Will have 567k to spend on the mid, so alternatives to getting Tom Mitchell could be: Selwood, Sloane, Zaharakis, or Josh Kennedy.


Trade option # 2 is papley to DBJ and JJ to Laird. This is a sideways trade strengthens my Backline.

First option would mean playing DBJ or Tippa on the field.

Sorry for the difficulty I've had explaining this. Any suggestions??


Jess just a suggestion, consider going JJ to DBJ as you stated and also Papley to either Ciaran Byrne or Wagner via DPP in either M Brown or AMT which you most likely will have one of those.

This will give you a extra cash and the following week if you dont have R Gray get him, Other option is Parker, you are allot better off bringing in elite premo midfielders rather then defenders as they are scoring all over the shot, including Shaw which is unusual.

Personally I would stay clear away from Selwood, but thats just my opinion.

Lastly Tom Mitchell concerns me as a top 10 midfield come season end, granted he is killing it at the moment however doubt that will continue, I would much prefer going Gray or Parker over him and then regarding defence later look to bring in H Shaw once he reaches around $510k

Hope this made sense


Hi Dean et al. Thanks for some solid reasoning. I've decided to go with TMitch. If you take his sub affected games last year into into account, he averaged 110.Call me crazy but im certain he can improve on that. It also looks like the horse is letting him chase his own ball this year, he shouldnt be given any tagging duties, and his 70 last week was mostly due to the fact that he gave away 4 FFA.

Agreed that Selwood is too unpredictable to choose this (and last) year, so im steering clear. Although I quietly think he will be pushing the 110 average too.

Should have mentioned that I started with parker and, unfortunately Shaw. Gray is one that I cannot afford at the moment, but are hoping for a similar output from Mitchell.

Also, ranked in the top 500, so dont want to wait around with too much cash in the bank

Jonathan Camac

Just depends what you're looking for. I love the look of Laird, he's a consistency beast. Low score is 90 this year, and last year he rarely dropped below 80. Ceiling is around 130 too. I think he is a great option.


Barlow to merrett a solid trade or a bit of a waste?
Watched barlow this week and he only got like 13 touches im still not convinced on him

Southern S

It was 14 touches and 9 tackles. Without the two frees against the score would've been decent.

Rick Grimes

I think I'll burn a trade if Martin doesn't play. Can't take a 0 at this stage of the season. Not like he was hitting the 110+ I wanted anyway.

Southern S

He had 95, 112 and 106. Then 63 at halftime when he got knocked out. Consistent.

Rucked against Goldy in one of those games, and rucked against Smith, Stanley and Blics vs Geelong, still got respectable scores.

Look at Gawn's scores without the 172. 85, 95, 105. Nothing spectacular.

Not like was hitting the 110+ after 4 rounds……………..that's ridiculous he was chugging along nicely.

It's not like sauce jacobs who got a 64 in an entire game.

You bought him for a reason have a some faith he is good, his scoring this year shows he's good.

If you're gonna sideways trade like that on a good scoring player good luck in supercoach.

Rick Grimes

Good luck taking a 0 and holding onto your ranking. We're not playing tiddlywinks champ.

Look, if he mans up and plays this weekend, I'll hold. Otherwise I'll probably just get Goldy in and watch him crap all over the other rucks (which I should have done from round 1).


Good luck holding your ranking when you run out of trades by Rd 16!!! Martin will miss 1 week at the most. Definitely a hold!


I don't think the fact that he needs to "man up" was a factor in his selection. I am sure he would want to play, just needed clearance from the medicos


This week's hot question is as follows: What did the Q&A host's/Channel 9 Sports news reader's running partner say as they sprinted the last 400 metres of The Tan?

A: Feel the Burn, Jones


Nice one Brook…wish his name was gunrookie-jones or cow-jones..


Lekdog and community have no idea what to do with my team i have a couple of mid pricers who have stuffed me up so here is my lineup from last week i have 96k in the bank and ranked 6000

DEF: Houli 59, Laird 95, Adams 72, Weitering 73, Dea 73, Sheridan 55- Bench: Cutler 97, Ruggles 40

MID: Danger 99, Ablett 109 (c), Hannebery 129, Gray 74, Shiel 108, Adams 88, Parish 83, Davis 37- Bench: Priddis, Hewett, Gresham

RUC: Gawn 105, Nic Nat 100- Bench: Lorensch

FWD: Hall 114, Wells 98, Kerridge 78, BKenedy 64, AMT 106, De Goey 68- Bench: Menadue 58, Loophole Rookie

All input would be Helpful, so what trades should i make. do i need to get rid of my midpricers?

Cameron Ling

Would you condone the trading out of Milera after getting him in round 3 (first week of trades)? I had to bring him in early as I had too many doughnuts in my team such as wyatt. The only reason I would trade him out is because he has a break even in the 60's and he has a very small likely hood of getting this. Trading him out would mean I could DPP AMT to the forward line and then bring in Byrne-Jones down back, making cash and promising money off of his low ass break even of -67. Please let me know ya thoughts


It all depends on how many trades you've used and why you traded Milera in instead of another rookie. As long as Milera is playing, he's a chance to make cash. If you believe Byrne-Jones is a must have, maybe there's other options? If everything was looking good in my team and I'd used 1-2 trades so far, I'd consider it but wouldn't be falling over myself to do it either.

Stewie Dew

Merret to Barlow?


Hold Barlow


Milera is gone for DBJ.
Will hold papley.
With close to 400k let from this, do I upgrade a rookie with minimal cash generation left (ben kennedy) to a super premo such as mitchell?


Not a world beater by any means, so any suggestions or advise would be greatly appreciated. Have plenty in the bank and think that forward line needs to be priority,

Laird, Shaw, Burgoyne, Johannisen, Adams, Weitering, Dea, Hartley,
Danger, Ablett, Hall, Gray, Liberatore, Parish, Mills, Oliver, Hewitt, Dunkley, Gresham
Goldstein, Gawn, Grimley
Wells, Kerridge, Greene, Kennedy, McD-Tip, Brown, Milera, Papley
$735k in the kitty

Thinking of Johannisen for Byrne-Jones and Papley for Zach Merrett


Great team but if I had to fault it I would say a little thin in the forward line.
Maybe look to upgrade some of your rookies in the coming weeks.

Great ruck combo and I love Burgoyne in the Backline.
Good job


Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. Will bolster forward line this week.

Are there any rookies that I have missed….

Southern S

Why wouldn't you run Dea in the backline instead of Brown in the forward line………………?

(swap Adams/Brown)

Southern S

I mean on field*


Good point, thanks for that.


Well look who is in green! My boy Suckling with his weapon left peg.

The Beard

Lads Merrett or Zarharkas?

Southern S

Those ships may have sailed in the eyes of many.

I still think Merrett is good in a forward line with not many midfielders to choose from there.

The Beard

How do you figure? Zarharkas is at 500k with an avg well above that.

Southern S

In the eyes of many, not quite sailed in my eyes.

I locked Zaha in for 415k but am a little reluctant to say LOCK! LOCK! to others based on 4 rounds and at 500k.

Southern S

Reason being is I see Merret being a top 6 and at worst 10 forward with the lack of forward/midfield players this year.

But if I tell people to lock Zaha in for 500k and he doesn't even make top 20 then it might cost people two trades.

He's doing everything right at the moment if you feel it will last then lock him in and don't look back, don't let others make the decision for you.


Barlow out before his bye


Need some help with my trades this week,

Def: Johanissen, Laird, Marcus Adams, Heath Shaw, Jacob Weitering, Daniel Rich – Bench, Mitch Brown, Ruggles

Mid: Sam Mitchell, Danger, Ablett, Zaharakis, Pendles, Libba, Marcus Wright, Matt Crouch – Bench, Ryan Davis, George Hewett, Jordan Snadden

Ruck: Gawn, Naitanui – Bench, Sam Grimley

Fwd: Aaron Hall, Daniel Wells, Suckling, Kerridge, Mcdonald-Tipungwuti, De Goey – Bench, Tom Papley, Connor Menadue

I know I gotta get rid of Johanissen, just don't know for who and I don't know if I should do a second trade.


How much money you got champ?


If I try trade out only Johanissen, then I'll have around 500k

Average Joe

Already gone Papley –> Suckling

People keep saying that I've missed the boat on Z Merrett, but he's only 530k, otherwise who should I get? Got DPP's in Def and Mid

Average Joe

Trading out S Gray


wait a couple of weeks and get Wingard for cheap


I'm thinking of JJ to DBJ and then Gresham to either Ward or L.Parker.

Thoughts, Community?


Yeah not a bad idea, and I'd probably get ward


can you go straight JJ to Ward/parker, via DPP?


I can't do that I'm afraid, only have single position midfielders.

I'll post my team and see if there's any other trades that are possible…


JJ, Laird, M.Adams, Shaw, Weitering, Dea. (Brown, Hartley)

Danger, GAJ, Zaharakis, Pendles, Libba, Wines, Mills, Oliver. (R.Davis, Hewett, Gresham)

Gawn, Nic Nat (Grimley)

A.Hall, Wells, Dusty, Kerridge, B.Kennedy, Barlow (Tippa, Menadue)

Damon Bisetto

i started with suckling pig


Thoughts on Pittard?


Well he's certainly been getting it done early in the season, 3 scores in the high 80s and then the 118 against GWS. He also started 2015 with a flurry too with 3 tons in the first 5 rounds but then petered out after that.

But ultimately do you really want to spend over $450K on the guy which is pretty much premo dollars for a player that averaged 80 last season? I also have some concerns about Port who is a team in turmoil and one thing they are looking for answers with is their defensive structures so not sure how that will impact on Pittard's scoring.


Avoid is my advice! I've been sucked in by this bloke 2 seasons in a row. When he's on scores really well running off half back. But both times I brought him in I regretted it – you're better off spending a little more to bring in a top 10 defender.


JJ to Byrne-Jones and Gresham to Byrne via DPP

This leaves me with $464k left in the bank and a paper thin defence for a couple of weeks with only 2 premiums.

Is this a good move or should I change it???


i would hold Gresham


Should I trade Dunkley instead??


Ditched second trade to save a trade as there was no real point.
Fred Nerk made a good point but I see both sides.

Southern S

I don't mind it because Gresham is expensive and has a positive BE. With poor scores and now not getting a gig he's cooked.


Was emergency last week, might get a game this week or next -valid arguments either way


I have hartley, brown, davis, keays, dunkley, petracca and menadue as rookies…
(as well as BenKen on the field)

Who needs to go this week and why?

Southern S

Maybe Dunkley.


dusty or zorko?


or zack merett


I'd go with one of the Zs. I reckon we will be able to pick up Dusty a little cheaper soon whereas the other two guys look like their price will rise at least in the foreseeable future.

Southern S

Agreed. Dusty might be 500k soon.


Cannot wait for a bottomed out Dusty and Shaw… BANG BANG


eddie betts anyone?

Southern S


Has 4 tough rounds ahead, he'll probably throw it in my face and carve up though.

Hawks, Freo, Dogs, Geelong.


can afford anyone in the fwd line who do i get?

fwd pemos are hall and wells


If you wait a week or two, Wingard will be under $450k. Then will have Lions, Carlton, WCE, melb, Collingwood.

dusty will be good value soon as well.


Thinkin of ditching the chad myself

Steven May

Papley to Zaharakis, thoughts ? Cheers community

Southern S

If you think he can dominate all year then go for it. I took the risk weeks ago, not sure if I would now but hard to deny the stats.


Everyone keeps talking about structure.

If u trade out JJ to a rookie, trade PAPS to a premo via BEN KENN dpp how is that gonna effect??? Ur loosing a good player but getting a premo in. Why are most coaches worried about structure!!


community i am starting to really consider westhoff as a POD in the FWD line priced at $442k in 0.8% of teams, if you take out that poor score of 24 against the crows where they got hammered his avg this year would be 97, he has averaged 90+ laast three seasons, i feel like this move could be one that pushes me up that ranks and seperates me from the pack of people getting buddy zerret or zorko

Southern S

Big Plums.


Lol…big plums….looking at your side and having 22 trades left!! I wouldn't be commenting too much about others sides and picks!! Your team is woeful…just a thought 😉

Southern S

Or it could be that move that pushes you down from the pack.

I suppose you can take that poor score where they got hammered by the crows out, but then again why would you? It happened, and it's not like he was injured.


Do I get parked or Hanley into my side

Southern S

Hanley is good but don't chase points. Parker is also good but he's fairly expensive right now.

I'd choose parker I suppose.


Westhoff burnman


Hi Gabor.

Westhoff no burn man!! He shit pick from the start!





J. Gresham and L. McCarthy – which is the highest priority to trade out if neither are named?
I have Papley so will trade for DBJ as per just about everyone this week it seems.

If Gresham and McCarthy not named is it worth getting another of the DEF bubble boys?
Would be looking at probably Byrne.

OR if both are named, should I hold both??
Just believe there will be a stronger crop of rookies emerge.

Thoughts community?

Southern S

One has a negative BE one has a positive BE.


McCarthy will play for sure


So Gresham to Byrne worthy of a trade?

Southern S

Hard to say, Gresham could come back and get a decent score and start making profit again.

If you really don't want to risk what ifs and try to make some profit on one of the bubble boys then Gresham is the trade to do instead of McCarthy.

McCarthy will be playing this week according to Chris Scott.


Lek i admire the fact that you standup and say Gray isn't the best pick I was wrong, yet you don't gloat about the fact that is what you who picked Hall pre-NAB cup (putting him on my and many other radars) and now everyone is reeping the benefits of it…..Even the big fella Jock, who's copped a bit for leaving out Gaz, was talking up Big Maxy Gawn well before the solid 3 NAB Cup games. Not to forget Patch sticking JJ and Zac Merrett in his Febuary team.

if there's anyone out there that's thinks they can get better advice on another website, I say good luck! I'm pretty happy with Merrett at F1, Hall at F2, and Maxy Gawn at R2….Good job fellas

Southern S

Agree with the whole post but after last year was it really hard to predict Max Gawn was going to have a good year?

Sorry to take that credit from Jock. Still respect you and love your views and podcasts!


What are the communities thoughts on Jarryd Lyons? Thinking of downgrading to him?


I am looking at him very closely. I still have B. Crouch sitting on my bench in the hope he will be back this week.

That said, Lyons has not put a step wrong to date and depending on team selections this week, he could be come very relevant. Milera is out also…..which is likely to secure him a full time job. In form midfielders are in high demand at Adelaide after Paddy's departure.

High on my watchlist.


Mine to….just not sure about his JS?


That is my concern also. Especially with b. crouch back in calculations. Mind you, worth watching like hawk over the next few weeks.

Southern S

Kinda have to make a decision on him this week though, in a few weeks the boat would've well and truly sailed.


Yup….he comes in this week or doesn't?

Southern S

If Crouch is back and Lyons is still in the team it could be a good move to take a punt, being only slightly more expensive than a few of this year's rookies.


I downgraded De Gooey to him last week turned out to be a great decision.
I also had him a couple of years ago in his rookie season and he was a very good scorer when he actually played always in the 70 – 100 bracket

the armchair critic

Not a premo. Not a rookie. Not a good trade.

The Ranger

Downgrading from who Maggie?
I watched him at the weekend and he did some good things but it's a tricky price.
With not much if anything available in the mids this week he has to be an option but personally I wouldn't trade him in unless I had to trade this week.


Sam Gray


I was pretty keen on him for a while and did some research. The thing that put me off was how many games he plays. Previous years, and then games (in brackets) as follows- 2015 (12), 2014 (10), 2013 (9), 2012 (3). I think he has abilty, but the last thing I want is a 300k+ non playing benchie at the pointy end of the season


Community as lots of people have, I have a dilemma facing me

Option 1: JJ to Docherty leaving me with 86k the bank

Option 2: JJ to Byrne-Jones leaving me with 445k and then over next few weeks upgrade Mills/Kennedy to a super premo and a fallen premo


I'll be downgrading JJ to DBJ and spending the resulting bank balance next week on at least 1 if not 2 upgrades.

So I'd go option 2.

Boltons blues

Is the double downgrade a good option for this week?
Both the Byrne boys trading out Papley and JJ

Both lines will be 2 keepers and 4 rookies (shaw and laird// hall and wells), with wells playing so well, hard to not classify him as a keeper

Backline rookies are weitering dea Byrne boys
Forward line rookies are Adams Kerridge benken and AMT/menadue

Boltons blues

Also leaves 600k in the bank for 2 possible 3 upgrades in the coming rounds


I'd have no fear in doing that and in fact will probably be doing a double downgrade myself.

Barlow and De Goey are on notice in my team and if they don't produce the goods this weekend one or both will be upgraded next week. Also looking at upgrading Weitering to Shaw either next week or the following one. Also planning to get Fyfe in soon. So have plenty of ideas on how to spend that war chest over the next fortnight.

Southern S

Weitering next week? Not likely with his negative BE. You predicting a poor showing against Freo?


It's only -6 because he has that 129 still floating in his pricing for one more week. Once that drops out and say he has another 70 odd against Freo his BE will suddenly shoot up to around 70ish.

Of course if he pumps out another ton I'll let him fatten further but if he has a quietish game at Subi don't be too surprised if he becomes a culling topic next week especially for those who don't have Shaw like myself. There may only be not much more than $150K difference between the pair next week where they started nearly $400K apart.

But anyway let's see how this weekend unfolds, I'm only mentioning the Weitering to Shaw thing is a possibility I'll be exploring over the next fortnight along with a plethora of other potential upgrades.

Southern S

Yep over the next couple we will see a lot of guys reaching their peak I think. Guess I'm just hoping Weiter isn't one of them.

Southern S

they are going to be thin lines but there's some guys almost to their trading time like Brown, Menadue, and Kennedy that could be upgraded shortly.


God I hope not.

I think we all need a few of them to kick on for a while longer so that we can have an orderly flow to the firing squad rather than a crowd all at once.


If I get rid of johannisen I have 500k left, I have no idea who I should get and idk if should do another trade

Southern S

Well you could get a defender like Docherty or you could downgrade to a rookie to make some cash for an upgrade elsewhere.

We don't know if you should do another trade either, as we have no idea who else is in your team. You can't except good answers with such a vague post.


I posted my whole team further up before, nobody gave me an answer, my name is the same

Southern S

Ah ok, like the looks of your team. You don't have a heck of a lot of growth going on with hewett and snadden not playing. That saying Hewett being a mid, and with only a 29 BE if he comes back he can make more coin.

You have a fair amount of guns and decent mid pricers scoring well so I reckon you can get away with a double downgrade to generate some cash.

Thinking the Byrne brothers here. (Byrne-Jones port/Byrne carlton both defenders)

I think Papley will be dumped by sydney this week so you could trade him out and swing adams forward, resulting in a trade for a byrne boy. JJ obviously straight out for the other byrne.

Now you should end up with a decent forwardline with De Goey F6, then you'll have a choice to run a Byrne boy in D6 or swing Tippa back for Brown and play him in that spot.

Then over the next few weeks you can make some upgardes with that cash, maybe get rid of De Goey, Weitering, Crouch or anyone else that looks like their growth is slowing. Need to really lock in premos at that stage.

Good luck


I agree. Double downgrade should keep the cash flow ticking in therefore direction. Papley and JJ look to be the right outs.


Menadue to DBJ
De goey to Merrett or Docherty, Rance
or hold?/
is there anyway to see the starting prices from the start of the season so I can work out who I think will be top 6 def and fwd at seasons end

Southern S

Both of those players could still grow in value.

Every player has a plus/minus and amount of cash next to their value don't they?


Merrett, looks the goods at the moment the other two should be found cheaper later in the season

Southern S



hello lekdog and community
i am looking to trade papley and sam gray should i do a double downgrade to two rookies or do one upgrade and one downgrade.
appreciate thoughts


who does everyone think the top 10 defenders will be at seasons end??


Gibson, Docherty, Houli, Rance then throw a blanket over the rest

Southern S

Laird, Docherty, Simpson, Gibson, Houli, Rance, Shaw. Don't need a top ten there's enough there for your backline.


I also expect the forgotten man McVeigh to be around the mark too once he's found some match fitness. The past 4 weeks no longer really matter as it's really how much will they score from here that we need to concern ourselves with.

Southern S

True. KK could be an option I forgot about too.


Is Docherty over priceed at the moment.?

Biggs looks to be breaking out like Laird did last season, similar style of players too

Southern S

No Docherty is priced reasonably for his performance so far and has a low BE of 69.

Compare him to houli for example, doch has scored 414 for the season, and Houli has scored 404. Yet Doch is 50k cheaper.


i dont think Z.Dawson will be


thoughts please community

JJ on bench this week, Papley to Byrne-Jones and J. Lonergan (the thorn in my side) to C. Byrne
Pocket the extra cash and next week trade JJ to Docherty and M.Crouch to C.Ward

Thanks in advance

Southern S

Makes no sense, why not keep a player like Lonergan or Papley who is actually playing and trade JJ this week instead?




I have Lonergan as well…..I'm keeping him now that May is on 5 game susp. He might benefit? Lonergan will be on my bench but he could capitalize? And a good bench option if someone gets hurt or susp?


his BE is low and he should meet it if he doesn't I'll trade him out later?


Thoughts community????
When Rockliff bottoms out in a few weeks are we going to get him at a really cheap price say $450k???
Would this be a good option as his BE is really high???
Rockliff is a proven gun and can go huge. We thought $550k was a good price but at sub $500k, what are we thinking???
Thank you

Southern S

I've already traded him out this year so won't be going on that rollercoaster ride, happy to get him back in just before finals for a higher price if he is smashing out big scores.

His body has been too unreliable.


He will have to be looked at by some coaches if he drops to $450K as we know how high his ceiling can be be when fit and firing but it will be hard for me to go back to that particular well after starting with him.

As SS says durability now seems a major concern for Rocky. So for me personally he would now need to show me a good patch of both form and fitness before I would even consider him again this season.


Burnt by Rockliff twice in 2015, and once again in 2016.

Not going near him again


I've got lifelong third degree burns from Rockcliff and i still started with him this year (so stupid).

It's not going to happen again.


as soon as he bottoms out i will be getting him

its a must take risk

rocky is a gun


Hey community running low on trades already with 25 left so I could not have too many donuts a bad start for me here is my team:
Defenders: laird, Bartel, B Smith, Weitering, JJ, Dea (Brown, Hartley)
Midfielders: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, R Gray, O Wines, Rich, Libba, Mills ( B Ken, Menadue, Davis)
Rucks: Nic Nat, Gawn ( M Cox)
Forwards: Hall, Barlow, Wells, Adams, Kerridge, Tippa ( Papley, McCarthy)
Most likely going to go JJ to DBJ however I am thinking of keeping Papley because of my limited trades remaining and 1 game is all it takes to save his BE. Just wondering your thoughts on what I should do this week and how I can save my trades in the coming weeks with a few rookies peeking in 1-3 weeks.


How much cash do you have. If you have $100k I would go JJ to JPK and swing Rich to defence.


I have 46.3k


JJ and Papley out do I go either
Parker and Byrne-jones
Or Mitchell and ruggles


Option 1


Parker, Mitchell will be rested for at least 2-3 weeks throughout the season in addition to the bye.

Southern S

Laird, Shaw, Weitering, Dea, Sheridan, DBJ, – Hartley/Byrne

Danger, Ablett, Zaharakis, Libbe, Crouch, Kennedy, Barlow, Lyons – Mills/Menadue/Davis

Gawn, Nic Nat – King

Hall, Wells, Adams, Kerridge, Tippa, De Goey – Brown/McCarthy

1,315, 900 in the bank.

Have I completely lost my marbles? have I taken my greed for profit too far?

I only count 9 keepers (11 with Libbe and Barlow). Is it worth going these bubble boys for JJ and Papley?


Yes, you have lost your marbles

Southern S

I knew it. Just needed to hear it from others. I am going for league wins only but I know I've gone to far. Gonna go check myself in to SC rehab.

The Ranger

That's a shit load of money!
How many trades left mate?

Southern S

Only 22. Been trading hard. Had Crouch, Rocky and JJ which didn't help.

The Ranger

22! Jeez mate that's low.
Spend that money on players who have a good chance of lasting out the season,
Have you planned for the byes? I plan for nine over the byes. I may be wrong but you you could be in trouble come finals time if you've traded that hard already.

Southern S

I'm not too worried about the byes just worried about hitting full premo and having injury trades for finals.

Southern S

And JJ cost me 2 of my 8 used………………………


22 trades is not a great position to be in, but I wouldn't underestimate Adams or Weitering. Either one of those could see you through to the pointy end of the season.

I haven't yet given up hope on Barlow averaging say 90-100 (which would be reasonable to park on the fwd line)

Southern S

Yep hoping those two and even Dea and Crouch can be held till later rounds. Holding Barlow hopefully the whole way through can't count on it though.

The Ranger

Injuries are the killer if you're low on trades. Loads of us will tell you how that screwed us up last season, Getting to full premo quick is one thing but if those premos then get injured ya buugered without trades. Then again, if you can avoid the injury trades you could be in a really strong position. Good luck Southern.

Southern S

Yep I'm going to need some luck that's for sure. If a few of my premos go down early (As JJ and Rocky already have) then I'm in a bit of trouble.


What about Micheal Barlow lads? Thinking about trading Suckling and Hanley in, with a bit of moving around for Johanissen and Barlow. Any thought?


I think most of us Barlow owners are looking to give him at least one more run around against the Blues.

But he definitely isn't looking great out there and with the Sandi injury and Freo's struggles in general I think you are well within your rights to trade him before he leaks further cash if you really feel that is best for your team. He does have a gettable BE of 87 though.


I think you should retain Barlow for at least another week or two.

When Freo start playing better, I expect Barlow to get more of the ball, and start scoring 100+


HOLD BARLOW, can't emphasize this enough


im holding barlow mate

why do you have him in your team?

remember that before trading

4 weeks is not a season


Papley to Byrne-Jones (via swing)
JJ to either Rance or Docherty

I'm leaning towards Rance, because I already have 2 Carlton defenders in Simpson & Weitering. I intend to pick-up Shaw in 2-3 weeks.

Thoughts on Rance vs Docherty?


Personally prefer Rance, others will say Docherty – can't go wrong with either. I just like Rance because i know he will get the job done.


Papley to zorko


Papley to DBJ
hold JJ for a week or so (going for league win and have cover) and then trade to dusty when he drops in price


Or Papley to DBJ
JJ to rance/docherty


I'm doing papley and JJ out for DBJ and Zorko myself..feel like Zorkos form is much better than Dusty so far


i like it.

No extra defensive players, but be wary of one less def premo


What do people think of Sam Gray to Byrne Jones?


Sure. It builds a war chest to grab a fallen premium in the next couple of rounds.

You know what will happen though. Gray will have a beast mode game – ignore it, just the SC gods trying to mess with your mind.

Jock Reynolds = Trap

I know, His draw is good too. 🙁

Southern S

Port's draw isn't as good as it looks. The next 4 teams they play all beat them in 2015.

Jock Reynolds = Trap

I unfortunately had fallen in the trap called Jock Reynolds and did the following:

– B.Kennedy and Parish to Simpkin and Gresham
– Papley to McCarthy
– Merrett to S.Gray
– Martin to Barlow

He almost convinced me to take out Weitering and Adams
I knew i should've listened to Lek and Patch

I know its my fault for listening but STILL it infuriates me so


"I know its my fault" pretty much sums up this comment.