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The Round 4 Cheat Sheet

Published by Lekdog on

Supercoach 2016 midpriced forwards

Hello Community!

Interesting week this one.. many are considering whether they’ll trade at all, others have a Supercoach stain in the underpant that might require removal.

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What are your trade moves this week?

 


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B.A.

B.Crouch to Parish, Rockcliff to Fyfe. Thoughts on Jacobs? 64,74 & 95 ain't flash at all. Keep or upgrade to the Juggernaut and burn one?

Derek

Jacobs will have a huge second half of year. Look at Crows draw from round 11 onwards!

fnaah

OK, so Rocky might be back next week, but should I still hold Wingard?

Derek

I believe he should play

Andrew

Sitting comfortably inside the top 1000, leaning towards trading aggressively to climb further.

Toby greene is my only real issue, have the ability and money to move him into the mids and bring in any ultra-premium Or should I stick with him. Already have Gaj, parker, danger, fyfe and callan ward.

Any thoughts/advice would be much appreciated!

Patch

Ripper start Andrew! Robbie Gray the only standout to have in the mids, otherwise I'd follow Derek's logic and look to grab a top forward premium like Zorko or Montagna (who are also big PODs).

Mister_Spock

Thinking along the same lines Patch, but can't decide whether to bring in Zorko before his price rise, or grab Robbie Gray now when he's close to his peak price. Leaning toward Gray for the more stable point production and there's every chance he could peak at $650k and be difficult to bring in later, whilst Zorko may rise initially but plateau at sub $600k.

Am I over-thinking it?

SC Shelia

Hi Lekdog, With T-mac and S. Grays BE so high 166 and 146 which they will most likely not do….you think it still worth keeping them and bleed cash?

SC Shelia

Derek

Players who are keepers you don't need to worry about their price once you have them.

Non-keepers are there to make cash. If they can't do that, corrective trade to someone who can

SC Shelia

Cheers Derek

Michael

Are you planning for them to be keepers to have come the end of the season because they will rise in cash again. Maybe trade them if there is a player you can afford that you think is going to score more therefore worth trading them.

Derek

Every trade you make from now on should be to either a keeper or a cash-cow.

Chill

Anymore podcasts from your fine self Lek? I enjoy listening to your dulcet, if biased, views on players…

TommyD21

This week im thinking of 2 changes
500k in the bank atm

Lobbe to Gawn
Crouch to Hall

Leaves me with about 133,00 in the bank, thoughts community?

Ian

Looks better than good to me!!!

DadSmasher

I'm not sold Tommy. Those trades will probably generate truck loads of extra points and we all know how opposed the community is to chasing points. To satisfy the community you'd be better off getting a short term witches hat like Hartley and maybe that MKing who's out for the rest of the year

Michael

Crouch –> Parker
Barlow –> Dangerfield.

138.1K still left.

My team as it stands is:

B: Laird, JJ, Birchall, Weitering, Dea, Adams (Brown, Broad)

M: Dangerfield, Ablett, Parker, Jelwood, Shiel, Wines, Liberatore, Parish (Mills, Davis, Petracca)

R: Gawn, Mumford (Grimley)

F: Martin, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, Tipungwuti (Papley, Menadue)

What is everyones thoughts on my team?

Derek

what about just Crouch >> Danger and save the other trade.

Not convinced that Parker is a keeper.

Chill

I agree Derek. Assume Michael needs to do the double trade to afford Danger? But if you have stuck with Barlow til now then you might as well stick it out with him as f5/6. He will average between 80-100. Parker I am not convinced by.

Paul

What isn't convincing about 3 BOG's in a row?

Derek

Don't chace points and don't pay more for him that what other people have.

Only get him if you think he is top 8 midfielder.

I have more than 10 ahead of him

Pete

Parker looks to be a elite premo, just as he has in the past except at a much cheaper price.
It sounds as though, those without him are extremely pi$$ed off about not having him.

All this talk of not convinced Parker is a keeper is utter B/S – If any of these thoughts were remotely true then NONE of your players will look like keepers after round 3.

UNREAL

OneTouch

champion data currently has Parker ranked 24th best player in The AFL

chisel

Parker will be top 3 scorers if he can avoid injury

Southern S

Early days and whether a young bloke can keep it up all season. Personally I think he can, but I can see why there are doubters.

Jonathan Camac

Absolutely cracking cheat sheet Lek Dog! Considering taking it into my maths test this afternoon!

Andrew

Probably R. Gray, priddis and wait and see for the other mid. My thinking re getting a mid over a forward. Is i feel like my forward mids are doing better than my last mid rook (mills) and id be bringing in a more stable player. Nkt overly convinced with some forward premiums

If i dont bring in a mid i think ill hold geene and just watch for another week

Geoff

Thinking of going Mills and Rich and bringing in the double of Adams and Caleb Daniel… Thoughts? Also gives me a bank of 130k thereabouts. As stated in the cheat sheet, last chance to grab adams. Not sure Mills has too much immediate growth left, despite job security.

Luke

Adams is a must have

Dan

First year playing SuperCoach? Awful trades

Henry

thoughts on caleb daniel??

Derek

he would have been nice to start with, but missed boat now.

Luke

M. Adams R. Laird H. Shaw

G. Birchall M. Dea A. McDonald-Tipungwuti

P. Dangerfield G. Ablett R. Gray
M. Priddis N. Fyfe T. Liberatore
S. Pendlebury C. Petracca (Captain loophole)

N. Naitanui M. Lobbe

A. Hall D. Wells B. Kennedy
S. Kerridge L. McCarthyC. Wingard

Bench
M. Brown T. Ruggles
C. MillsR. DavisJ. Gresham
S. Grimley
T. PapleyC. Menadue

got 79 k in the bank and need to get rid of lobbe

HELP

luke

Thanks LEKDOG!

Benjamima Puddleduck

Seriously..
That is your biggest issue, your laughing. Ride him out till you have enough cash to put in Gold/Martin/Blivacs- which ever one you fancy more.

Solid Team for this time of year!

How many trades have you made and how is your cash Generation?

Luke

So far 3 trades had o McDonald rnd 1 traded to AMT, then barlow to hall, rocky to r Gray, got 79 k and my 2 trades this week still team value 10.7 m

luke

I also believe weitring is an absolute must have and want to bring him in somehow just think his cash generation is to good to miss out on and would be behind the pack if I didn't have him in

Jake

Hold him, you don't need to trade this round.

Jonathan Camac

Anyone who is keen to be a rival with me is welcome. Go to leagues, then click on rivalries, add type in 'Camac Attack' as new rival. Look forward to some good competition and banter!

tuxCS

I'll be adding you now mate! 🙂

Jonathan Camac

Awesome stuff mate! I'm doing a bit of a comp, getting people to compete against me, and comparing how everyone goes as a whole against me each week. Then at end of each round, posting results of all rivalries I'm in on the instagram 'SuperCoach Scout'. Can see whether the Scout (me) or the community (everyone rivalled against me) has taken the points each week. Just a bit of fun 🙂 Looking forward to matching up against ya mate!

tuxCS

Yeah i'll follow you on instagram, looking forward to it mate.

Tuhoe

i'll be adding you too.

RKC

Just added you mate. My team name is 'The Brotherhood'. Ranked inside the top 1%. Anyone else welcome to add me. Cheers.

ScariesVI

Well well well… Trying to pick up some SC tips on the sly, bro…?

Jonathan Camac

Awesome stuff guys! Look forward to it!

OhMyGoddard

I have Sheridan, O.McDonald and M.Brown in my DEF, I want to bring in M. Hartley and Houli, I also have Brad Crouch. Keep in mind I only have 12k. What should I do?

Southern S

Trade Oscar McDonald and Brad Crouch. Keep the others.

Foti186

Wait till next year. Lol.

Wombatsfc

The Hartley call is a bit misleading Lek. Without an injury to another player there is absolutely no way he'll hold his spot when Dempsey and Grima come in this week or next

tuxCS

Praise be to Higgo.

Southern S

Yes but he's also more likely to return at points in the year. Plus you'd think the bombers would want to give the young defender as much AFL experience as possible.

DadSmasher

Hartleys a top up concession player SS cheetahs have no interest in giving him opportunity in place of contracted players like Dempsey, Francis etc and amongst the other bonus players at Druggamarine is Grima, a much better footballer than Hartley.
If you think that the Cheetahs will give a 1 season hack opportunities over contracted players you're kidding yourself

Brett

I think you will find that Hartley is on the senior list DadSmasher.

I'm not 10% on this, but pretty sure.

Brett

100%

Southern S

They used their pick no.68 at the draft to get him that tells me they want him for the long haul.

mark

I need your assistance community. What does everybody think of Sam Docherty. And would Brodie Smith be a better inclusion than JJ

CJudd3Votes

Docherty has managed to score ok in a team that has copped a few heavy losses, hence i feel like you can be pretty confident he will maintain his current output. By the same token Smith has got history suggesting he can also maintain a decent scoring rate. Either i think both are fair options, just as always make sure the trade is necessary before executing

mark

Thanks mate. It’s McGovern that I’ll be trading out

SteveC

Disagree. Docherty will be much. More consistent. Smith competes with Laird for the finishing kick in the Adelaide defence. Smith also tends to get shut down roles on the best small fwd, which reduces his consistency.

Northernsoul74

Had some cash from downgrading Rocky last week, so B Couch to Robbie Gray

dean

are we holding calum mills ? not playing very well

Derek

We said the same about Cripps about this time last year!

tuxCS

From what ive seen of Mills, when he gets around the ball he tends to use it well. Its just he's not really getting near the ball enough. Hopefully he'll come good and make us some money. Hold.

Jonathan Camac

Im holding for now,waiting till his price seems to max out. Then I'll pick up the likes of Petracca at this stage.

Jimi

Hey Lek, I'm thinking of downgrading Greene to Parish, I know that means I'll need to spend another trade on Parish at some point down the line but:

– I've got all the other good cash cow rookies so my downgrade options are limited.
– I've only got 18k so upgrade options are non-existent.
– Parish is still going to go up around $150.
– Parish is averaging higher than Greene so there is not net point generation loss to my side.
– It will immediately add $160k odd which I will need considering my very limited war chest.

Sorry I normally hate posts like this but any wisdom would be appreciated

Jimi

Yeah I hear you, and I've looked into that too. Problem is I don't have any other mid-priced or premo players that I need to downgrade. That means downgrading a non-playing rookie, at best that could be Menadue to Hartley, that would give me a budget of $522,600 if I trade Greene. At this point in time I don't see many players around that price that I'd be happy with, or confident that they'd make it to the finish line – therefore requiring another trade at some point later in the season. If I'm going to spend 2 trades going the upgrade option and burning all my war chest, I'd rather spend 2 on Parish and make some $$$ in the process.

Cashcows

Two trades for around $150k profit. You decide if it's worth it.
Personally I'd just hold Greene (which is what I'm doing this week).

Jimi

That is also a viable option. I just don't trust Greene as far as I can throw him and I have girly arms.

@randomcliche

#runlikeagirl

tuxCS

Great stuff as always Lek. I was also wondering what does everybody think of K.Lambert from Richmond? He's been playing a good amount of mid time (from what ive seen) and with scores of 130, 101 and 70 (at half time he was on about 20 points, so 50 points from one half of football when they're priced at 400k isn't bad) he seems like a really good option. Is anyone else considering him/have him in their sides?

cooky

thoughts on J Gresham to M McGovern?

Paul

Trading out someone that isn't playing for another bloke that isn't playing seems like a strange idea. Especially for only about 20k.

Southern S

Mitch McGovern is playing though? I don't understand why people are giving this comment thumbs up.

Although I don't really think trading McGov in is a good idea, at least he seems to have some JS at the moment.

Steve

Mills to parish anyone?? Parish looking comfortable in the guts, as well as avging 12 points higher than Mills' highest score, and his two best scores are contributing to his BE for this week? Could make some srs $$

Thanks in advance community

Cashcows

No. Using 1 trade for 50-80k difference. If anything it's 2 trades coz they both aren't keepers. Back in Mills.

Nicholas

Hey community once again needing some relevant supercoach advice for my team.

Backs: Laird, Bartel, JJ, Weitering, Dea, Rich (Brown, AMT)
Mids: Danger, Fyfe, Ablett, Gray, Wines, Libby, B Crouch, B Ken ( Mills, Hewett, Davis)
Rucks: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cox)
Forwards: Hall, Barlow, Wells, Adams, Kerridge, papley (McCarthy, Menadue)

Was thinking Rich to Hartley/ Ruggles and Crouch up to Parker which leaves my midfield nearly complete for the season and some more cash generation. Not sure if this is the best trades because I would be left with 25 trades after that however I dont see myself trading for a while until our rookies peak after this.

Any advice is welcome good luck this week for fantasy football

Derek

Team looks good. Just wait for the cows to fatten

Nicholas

So what do you think about Rich and Crouch derek?

Derek

Maybe Crouch to Bryne-Jones next week

Keep Rich

tuxCS

I honestly like your plan that you have already, just wait and see if Hartley/Ruggles gets named for rd 4 before making any trades.

Tommo09

Sitting in the top 1000 but not likely to stay.
Thoughts on trading M.Brown to Hartley???
Also, keep Barlow??
Have $105 left in the bank

Thanks community

Tommo09

$105k left that is

Benjamima Puddleduck

I Tinkered with it, but the trade is not worth the cash.
Wait for Ruggles to come around

Dean

I prefer Hartley over Ruggles. Not sold on Ruggles JS – It will be a problem.

DadSmasher

Really? What makes you think that Hartley is a better player than Dempsey and Grima?

Marc

currently sitting 765 overall, so very happy with that.
team reads:

DEF: Gibbo, laird, shaw, adams, weitering, dea (AMT, Brown)
MIDS: Danger, Gaz, Priddis, Cripps, Wines, Libba, B Kennedy, Mills (Menadue, Davis, B Crouch)
RUCKS: Nic Nat, Gawn (Cox)
FWD: Hall, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Kerridge, Papley (McCarthy, McGovern)

Crouch obviously has to go.
Thoughts so far are Crouch > Hartley, via swinging AMT forward and Wells to MID
or is Short an option?
other issues are Menadue and Greene.
would appreciate some thoughts community.

currently $59600 in bank

Cashcows

Hartley > Short for me. Got slightly better JS.

With that cash you could probably do a fwd or def upgrade as well but then hold till rookies are ready to cull.

@randomcliche

I'm not necessarily sold on trading out Brad Crouch bud. Last year I held mitch wallis for a few weeks and it turned out very well for me. Suggest that switch McCarthy and Papley and hold. Menadue still making cash. Greene, you bought the butcher with fair warning, now go lay in your bed. Sideways Greene will put you all those above you with the player you bring in. Suggest holding and learning from the experience. Don't buy him again. I learnt this lesson with Rich last year. All the best.

DadSmasher

Ignore Hartley. Dempsey and Grima are back either this week or next and Hartley and Brown will go back to VFL until another injury

Southern S

We will see when ze teams drop oh smasher of fathers.

KCD

Love your work Lekdog. Going Rich > Hartley and Gresham > Hannebery/Priddis/Gray this week.
Problem is I can't split Hannes/Priddis/Gray for the life of me. Will eventually have all 3… But if you could choose one now, and 2 post-bye, who would you go?

KCD

Legend! Thanks chief, love your work!

The Ranger

Crouch – Aaron Young from Port?
I know it's sdieways but his BE is -46, he's playing a new role with more time up forward, his JS looks good with Schultz and Monfries out and he's just punched out scores of 94 and 101.

KCP

Shhh the herd must not know about this one

The Ranger

Sorry, KCP, my bad.

KCP

Massive POD and this is the only week you could get him. Scoring over 100 when your team was demolished v Adelaide gives me confidence in his ability to score

OneTouch

If you saw the game, he scored 3 goals, all long range lucky bounce goals. All on the counter fast break when game over. Score was inflated, just be aware.

The Ranger

Yeah, he's not exactly been a gun in previous years either but he was a sub most of the time and his role has def changed.

Steeeve

He's a POD for a reason. Won't keep this up. Goes hard but can barely hold a mark. Byrne-Jones impressed on debut and will likely hold his spot. So when Chad and Hartlett come back (both half forward types, like Young, he'll struggle to stay in the side.

Danners

Good trade for quick cash

The Ranger

Yeah I'm after fast cash. Last year I missed out on trading some rookies at their peak as you can only make two trades in one week so I'm trying to stagger them more this year and that plan involves raising cash fast.
Still not certain to do the trade!

Swans2012

Caution those scores have included 3 and 4 goal hauls, will not do this every week, that said will make 100k quick smart….

The Ranger

If he can knock out 80 odd for a few rounds and make me $120K he'll have done the job.

Sam

Bit of Cash left over so;
Smith -> Gawn Simpkin->Wright

Richard

Appreciate the weekly cheat sheets Lekdog.Your thoughts on Kreuzer? Keep or Toss

Wonder Me This

Toss. Then trade him out after that.

Jonathan Camac

Pendlebury or Ward? Thoughts community?

Vindude

Ward for sure!

tuxCS

For right now, i'd say Ward, however i have a feeling that pendelbury will be injected back into the mid soon, and once he overcomes his sore ribs, he'll score like the super premo we all know and love. If possible, i'd say wait another week or two before bringing Pendles in, as his price will most likely drop further.

fatboyfat7

^ What tuxCS said. I'm already planning how to get Pendles in over the next 2-3 weeks.

Jonathan Camac

thanks for the advice guys!

Boltons Blues

Im holding B Crouch, not sold on Short and dont wanna waste a trade on someone like him with his JS

going to wait for petracca to pop up in the coming weeks (hopefully)

Paul

I'm considering the same. I was thinking about downgrading Mills instead, but it seems stupid to trade a bloke that should still add a little value. Feel like upgrading Crouch in a few weeks would be more rewarding

jim

zorko or montagna for crouch

Iamme

Zorko

TeenWolfFyfe

zorko

Danners

Montagna for consistency

Nicholas

Advice on my team up above?

john

Is Rich and Barlow to Ruggles and Houli a good trade which will allow me to upgrade De Goey next week?

CJudd3Votes

Not bad options however i'd be debating putting this move off for a week if BE's allow it

Derek

havnt gained much, in fact I'd argue you have gone from two keepers to one.

Who's place in team did Ruggles take? I worry about Geelong rookies JS

Southern S

Ruggles is risky for the long term I'd assume.

50_Shades

I'd hold Barlow, you gotta see where the 99 last week goes.

Ditch rich…

ScariesVI

Rich to Doc KK or Simpson…?

tom

What is Short's JS like?

Southern S

Could be short………?

Dom VB

No.

The lord ablett

If you have to pick one who do you pick
Brodie smith or Jason Johannisen

Chill

Brodie Smith

Iamme

Smith as he has a proven history

Southern S

Has only proven good scoring through one season though.

SCaddict

Both looking good value choices early in the season. I'll be trying my luck with JJ but just pick the option you like best really.

ian

B: Houli, Laird, Sheridan, Weitering, Dea, Adams (AMT, Cutler)
M: Dangerfield, Ablett, Priddis, Gray, Shiel, Adams, BenKen, Parish (Davis, Hewett, Gresham)
R: Nic Nat, Gawn (lorensch)
F: Barlow, Hall, De goey, Wells, Kerridge, McCarthy (Menadue, Papley)

Score very well last week but still have a couple of concerns with Cutler, De Goey, Gresham, Barlow

Have $143,600 left in the kitty and not sure who i should offload first and who to have 29 trades left

thoughts Lekdog and community about who i should trade in/out as I'm new to supercoach

tom

Cutler to Hartley and De Goey to Zorko

Michael

Community, do i trade barlow or greene to the magnificent zorko

Danners

Greene, Barlow should average well enough

Boz33

holding trades to see if petracca is named. if so ill watch petracca and trade him in for brad crouch next week

Scooter

Do i hold sam gray ? Or trade for aaron hall, help please ?

tuxCS

Hall is playing like a super premium midfielder right now. GET HIM IN.

Scooter

Thanks everyone appreciate it

Danners

Hall is a must for now

Adam

Thinking of trading Crouch and Lonergan to Zorko/Dalhaus and Ruggles.
Team is currently:
Def: H Shaw, J Bartel, D Rich, J Lonergan, M Adams, M Dea, AMT, M Brown
Mids: N Fyfe, P Dangerfield, G Ablett, D Hannebery, D Shiel, B Crouch, C Mills, S Kerridge, G Hewett, R Davis, J Greesham.
Rucks: T Goldstein, N Naitunai, D Wyatt.
Forwards: M Barlow, A Hall, J DeGoey, D Wells, B Kennedy, T Papley, L McCarthy, C Menadue.

Whoever I bring in will be swapped to the forward line bringing Ben Kennedy into the midfield. Thoughts Lekdog and community with the trade option and who I should bring in between Zorko and Dalhaus.

tuxCS

So what's everybody's bye strategy looking like? Because the byes are so late into the season this year, i'm thinking about just using all 3 trades each week with the idea of coming out at the end with a full premium side. The only trades i will make before then will be downgrades and injury trades (depending on the length of it).

50_Shades

Benken is a loophole option if you've got petracca and can see another rookie play earlier. Shouldn't really matter which line you have him in.

Iamme

Zorko …Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the idea of moving BenKen to the in Midfield.

Yash

Idk who to choose, Bachar Houli or Luke Parker. Bachar is 530k and Parker is 580k, just not sure who will be more consistent.

Southern S

Don't get caught out chasing points. Parker for sure.

Tommo09

To follow up are there any correctional trades to fix up my team before round 4
I am in the top 1000 at the moment

Defenders: Shaw, Laird, JJ, Weitering, Dea, Adams (McDonald-Tipungwuti, M.Brown)
Midfielders: Danger, Fyfe, Ablett, Parker, Libba, M.Crouch, Kennedy, Mills (Davis, Gresham, Dunkley)
Rucks: Goldstein, Naitanui (Grimley)
Forwards: Martin, Hall, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Papley (Menadue, Petracca)

Any help welcome
$105 000 left

Thank you

Southern S

team looks good apart from the donuts. Not really sure what you can do about them though.

Having Papley on field kinda sucks too.

Tommo09

Thanks for that

Thoughts on trading M.Brown in the next few weeks????

Southern S

His BE is still -19 so he has a bit of growth to go, if he can score reasonably that is. See how he goes over the next couple.