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What a sight it was, Community, to see two of the great behemoths of the game going toe-to-toe in an epic ruck battle on Sunday.

The hulking figures of Todd Goldstein and Max Gawn locked horns like beasts from the hinterland and delivered their owners a bounty of Supercoach points.

Those who had the Goldstein – Gawn ruck combination would have been absolutely salivating.

The pair had 344 SC points between them. Enough said.

The Heroes

Todd Goldstein (172 SC)

Oh, how the Goldstein owners must be laughing now. The competition’s premier big man was back to his illustrious best on Sunday with five goals helping him pump out a massive score. A 200 plus total was on the cards after he was sitting on a whopping 120-odd at half-time. Has barely dropped in price and doesn’t look like he will. Starting with him from day dot looks to have been the right option.     

Max Gawn (172 SC)

While Goldy was good up forward, Gawn put on an absolute masterclass against the league’s best ruckman to finish with 63 hit outs and two goals of his own. This bloke is the real deal and could challenge Goldy as the number one big man this season. We can look forward to compelling contests between these two for years to come.

Patrick Dangerfield (166 SC)

Has the potential to be the highest averaging player in Supercoach this year. A CoachKings must, even at his premium price. Simply enormous presence, so strong for a midfielder and ultra competitive. Like Nat Fyfe, looks almost the complete package.     

The Villains

Ben Kennedy (50 SC)

Those who did not start with Kennedy but made the decision to trade him in before Round 3 on the back of some good form would have been severely disappointed. Had a very quiet day and just couldn’t get near it. Only 15 touches.

Tom Papley (46 SC)

It’s a bit rough to paint a rookie as a villain, but given the fact he posted back to back tons in the first two rounds, many of us got sucked into trading the Papsmear in and starting him on our fields. It was a move that backfired severely. He is not alone though, as his Sydney rookie mates in Mills and Hewett have hardly set the world alight either.

Jason Johannisen (70 SC)

The bubble has well and truly burst. Started this season like a house on fire, but in doing so has attracted the attention of the opposition. The Hawks were much tighter on him. If this trend continues expect his scores to follow a similar path.

The Redeemers

Heath Shaw (129 SC)

Put on a resurgent display and enough to suggest he will still be the number one defender this season. Was his team’s best player in a losing side with 22 of his 27 touches being kicks. Expect him to go big again in the coming weeks.

Michael Barlow (99 SC)

So it wasn’t the glorious 140 we were all hoping for, but those of us that held this man should be proud of themselves. Looked much better and found plenty of it. Still didn’t play much midfield, which is a concern, but with Mundy out again this week, we can be optimistic of the chances of another good score.

Brodie Smith (107 SC)

This man had plenty of doubters heading into Round One after an ordinary preseason. But he has not put a foot wrong so far. Looks to be recapturing the form of 2014 when he averaged 93. Solid scores of 94, 86 and 107 to start proceedings.

The Damned

Toby Greene (52 SC)

The yo-yo scoring continues for Toby, who was rubbish again this week, similar to Round One. Pumped out a nice 120 last week, but if this sort of schizophrenic scoring continues, he will become a big frustration for his owners. Much like a cheating ex, he is fast becoming untrustworthy.

Daniel Rich (late withdrawal)

The late withdrawal wasn’t all that surprising. What many have overlooked when selecting Rich in their defence this season is his deplorable injury history. The bloke’s just not durable and doesn’t get on the park enough. Consider trading.

Sam Gray (78 SC)

Probably a bit harsh to put Sammy in The Damned column, but I’ve been influenced by a co-worker who has him and is calling for his head. With scores of 57 last week and 78 this week, he just doesn’t look like being that top six forward we were hoping for. Butchers the footy. Had it 37 times in Round 1 for just 99 SC.

Over to you Community, who were your heroes and villains of round 3?


582 Comments

Chill · 11/04/2016 at 12:14

With Sandi out… how is Barlow going to?

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/04/2016 at 12:29

    I think Sandi out could have a big impact on freo esp their mids. Look what happened Rd 1 without him? Wasn't pretty. No Sandi, No freo?

      Marco_Polo94 · 11/04/2016 at 12:34

      Barlow wasn't my biggest problem last week so I held him, but I agree with the Sandilands effect. Could pull the trigger on Barlow this week to Parker/Priddis

        tippa · 11/04/2016 at 12:43

        Do you have the cash Marco? Because Barlow lost money and Parker gained lots. Or are you making another trade

          Marco_Polo94 · 11/04/2016 at 13:22

          Yeh I've got the cash, however I'm considering a move for Hartley this round anyway.

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/04/2016 at 12:49

        About an $80k swing for that move now prices have changed.

        Marco_Polo94 · 11/04/2016 at 15:22

        actually based on team balance I'd prefer a forward. so Dusty or Zorko… probably dusty

    Davonaise · 11/04/2016 at 12:30

    Not looking good, from here on in one would think Barlow is a 80-85 player

    Dan · 11/04/2016 at 12:43

    Griffen is a good ruckman I wouldn't worry too much

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/04/2016 at 12:47

      Griffen v Goldy next week? Good luck freo.

@OldCampaignerSC · 11/04/2016 at 12:19

Sam Gray…horrendous. .looking at Merrett instead

    Vindude · 11/04/2016 at 12:24

    I might stick with him for one more week, although, not sure if its a wise move ?

    Patch · 11/04/2016 at 12:47

    Hands of my Zach, Linc! That goes for all of youse, he's mine!

    (Need to see him against Geelong before I can confidently trade Barlow to him)

Adrian · 11/04/2016 at 12:23

Waiting patiently for the gold man to drop price is like waitingndirnbald man fringe to regrow. Looks like l will have to wait for bye round then bang.

Red · 11/04/2016 at 12:24

thoughts on downgrading both rampe and Greene to weitering and papley?

    Iamme · 11/04/2016 at 12:40

    Good move to Weitering, but I think you missed the boat on Papley….had you picked him up last round you would have gained nearly 90K

    Patch · 11/04/2016 at 13:05

    Give Paps a miss, would go one down and one up. Paint the fence, as Crouching says.

    JamiesNinjas13 · 11/04/2016 at 13:15

    I think you have missed the boat on both rookies and taking out 2 premiums will effect your weekly score greatly. Never liked trading in a rookie after I have missed their first price rise.

      Dee · 11/04/2016 at 18:22

      The Weitering ship has sailed lads….

    Matt · 12/04/2016 at 00:35

    You're probably too late on both the rookies. Weitering had a great game but you'd expect his future output to be similar to his first couple rounds – an average around 75-80 – not good enough to be a season keeper.

    Grahame Lebroy · 12/04/2016 at 11:25

    Rampe yes hold onto Greene

Davonaise · 11/04/2016 at 12:27

Ross has said that some Freo players are not performing well enough and some could get the axe to bring in more talented players. Would like to see what players they are….

    Bells E Bubb · 11/04/2016 at 13:40

    Ross is on the blower to Colin Sylvia as we speak.

      annoying old lady · 11/04/2016 at 16:01

      Relton Roberts is reportedlyon a plane to Perth. Risky SC selection though: 1/10

    Jesterhawk · 12/04/2016 at 13:29

    Morabito?

    Wombatsfc · 12/04/2016 at 13:40

    Hawthorn players mate and maybe a few swans.

      Wombatsfc · 12/04/2016 at 13:41

      Sorry I just realised that Ross probably wasn't talking about his supercoach team.

The Weapon · 11/04/2016 at 12:31

Had Gawny, Danger and Goldy and top scored in my league this week, but I've got Greene and Rich who I'd like to get rid of. What do I do with these spuds??? I have all the good rookies so not too many options for a downgrade if anyone could give me some options it would be greatly appreciated.

    SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 12:44

    Both Greene and Rich have the potential to be decent scorers but reliability and consistency appears to be the issue as well as the inherent role that Greene seems to hold. I'd probably give Spitta one last chance as that 120 will be in his pricing for one more week and another ton could be around the corner if GWS have a good win at home again this weekend.

    But if Rich doesn't get up for this week then he has to go. Even if he plays that calf could be an ongoing worry in the short term and every opposition coach out there knows he's super susceptible to the tag, if they make it a priority to shut him down. So there's always that risk he'll spit out a sub 50 score any given week although he can produce premium defender output if left to his own devices. It was the reason I refused to touch him despite the preseason hype.

      princeofmugs · 11/04/2016 at 12:54

      Think it's a hammy for Rich, not a calf. Rocky's got the calf.

      Phil · 11/04/2016 at 13:05

      I can't trust the bastard so I'm ditching him.

        Phil · 11/04/2016 at 13:06

        Rich that is. Don't have Greene.

      Bundles · 11/04/2016 at 13:18

      Think I've seen enough of Greene. Gave him the benefit of the doubt after Rd1 but he's just going to be too up and down to make him worth persisting with.

      Alex · 11/04/2016 at 13:23

      Hey SC Addict who do you reckon I should trade Rich for then? Have $45K in the bank.

        SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 13:41

        You have a few options. Still rate JJ as a pick even with the down weekend against the Premiers. The Doggies draw opens up a bit now. Perhaps Murph down puts a question mark on the Doggies defender dynamics but I still expect him to score well.

        You could also go down to a Hartley or Ruggles type and use the savings to patch up another area of your side.

    Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 17:33

    I have similar problem but with greene and sheridan im leaning towards selwood/weitering but there is also a chance of grey/ruggles still undecided though!

      Mister_Spock · 11/04/2016 at 19:51

      Grey/Ruggles will generate more spare cash, Weitering is now effectively a mid-priced.

Jimma · 11/04/2016 at 12:31

I know Sam gray’s score wasn’t that great, but he really should of got 90+ points for his effort on Friday, only reason why that didn’t happen was many of his teammates fumbled easy handball receives and kicks from him, decreasing his DE by a fair bit, id hold another week before pulling the plug.

    Rob · 11/04/2016 at 12:41

    from what I understand, if you hit a teammate with a perfect kick or handball and they just drop it, it is still an effective disposal. Happy to be advised otherwise…

      Jimma · 11/04/2016 at 14:31

      could be the case rob, but as i saw, every time someone fumbled his touches his de had the afl live app up, just reckon he should be held another week

TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/04/2016 at 12:32

Hey Carl. If Rich gets the damned due to pulling out because of an injury then surely B Crouch gets a gig? Case of severe heartburn for the punt takers.

    Big Carl · 11/04/2016 at 15:47

    Great point, Trigger. I had trouble splitting the two but Crouch at least pulled out early enough on Friday to give us time to replace him. Rich also stunk it up last week (due to Ben Jacobs tag) before getting injured. So that was enough for me to give him the nod.

Mister_Spock · 11/04/2016 at 12:45

McKenzie…FML

    Dee · 11/04/2016 at 12:52

    that's one of Jock's POD this year….. and then electing nor to pick Ablett in his team. LMAO.

      Antonio · 11/04/2016 at 13:53

      Is McKenzie to Adams a good trade?

    Shane · 11/04/2016 at 13:02

    What to do with him? Keep or trade

      JamiesNinjas13 · 11/04/2016 at 13:37

      He will miss atleast one week and plays a third tall forward role. Trade.

      Mister_Spock · 11/04/2016 at 14:39

      I've already pulled the trigger on a tentative trade – McKenzie down to Hartley and upgrade Greene to Robbie Gray via DPP

      Leaves me with only three pemos down back (if you count JJ), but the way that Adams, Dea and Weitering have been playing I'm OK with that. Can bring Ruggles in for Brown next week too.

Dee · 11/04/2016 at 12:48

Happy with my 2399 this week, trades this week….. Rich OUT Hall IN, Rockliff OUT Gray IN. Welcome….

    Moz · 11/04/2016 at 12:53

    Great trades. Love it

    Westy · 12/04/2016 at 05:46

    That's a great score without Hall and Gray!

Deccas · 11/04/2016 at 12:54

How long will Trent McKenzie be out for with a broken nose?

    SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 12:59

    Will have to wait for an updated injury list tomorrow but it's looking at least a few.

Mac · 11/04/2016 at 12:55

few good Captain choices this week

Danger vs Bombers
Ablett vs Lions
Goldy vs Freo (No Sandiballs)

For me, Danger tore Essendon a new on in NAB Challenge and Goldy will get the Skipper if he fails. Goldy vs Griffen looks enticing.

    Jonathan Camac · 12/04/2016 at 10:41

    I'm also tossing up between Danger and Goldy. Hard to say no to either.

Mill the pill · 11/04/2016 at 12:59

Thanks Big Carl. You summed it up well. With respect to the two Behemoths, what an enthralling battle.
My villain goes to the so called expert of last week who raved on a la his statistical data and analysis plus his 'two bob's worth on less rotations, less boundary throwing etc that rucks would no longer be churning out big SC scores??? I wonder if he is squirming now?

    Derek · 11/04/2016 at 17:06

    1 game out of 8 that had an unusually high number of stoppages due to a gale force wind in Tasmania. Look at the other ruck scores dopey you'll see that the expert is correct. Mill the Wanka

      Derek · 11/04/2016 at 18:23

      There is another Derek?

      I hope he went better than me

    Derek · 11/04/2016 at 18:32

    Hi Mill, I didn't see the game so not sure why they scored so high. 109 stoppages was a lot! Compared to the 70's of the other games.

    Looking at the hit outs, Goldy was beaten by Gawn and relied on his 5 goals to score big.

    Goldlys price will drop at some stage, hopefully before round 8

      IToldYaSo · 11/04/2016 at 21:54

      And so will your overall ranking Derek, it makes no sense what so ever NOT to start with Goldy/Gawn, Goldy/NicNat, Goldy/Blicvas combo.

      I posted several times that YES he is priced high regarding Goldy, however as I said over and over he is a PERFECT captain & VC option and due to this its beyond ABSURD starting without him because now your season is pretty much over regarding that elusive #1 spot. As I said those who started without Goldy will be playing catch up and you just cannot afford being behind the pack by much because these days most teams have very similar players.

      If I were you I would bring him in your side as of YESTERDAY, keep in mind Goldy's hardest opposition was in rounds 1 to round 4 however now that Sandiballs is out that makes him more enticing to bring in.
      It makes NO sense waiting for a player of his calibre to drop 50k to 100k in price just to wast a trade on him to bring him in your side, coz your missing out on all those extra POINTS each week.

      Good luck what ever you chose to do.

        Learnthefacts · 11/04/2016 at 22:01

        two of current top ten teams(2-6) don't have goldy. Your claim that your season is pretty much over if you didn't start him is ridiculous

        Derek · 11/04/2016 at 22:49

        you can't have everyone in your starting team.

        Anyone who went with Goldy is missing somewhere else.

        I chose to start with Fyfe, Gaz, Danger & Pendles, others went with Wines, Parker, Libba & Cripps types.

        On a "points per dollar spent", Goldy is only a few points ahead of Lobbe anyway.

        I'll stick to my plan and get Goldy after week 7, hopefully cheaper than his starting price

    NutSack · 12/04/2016 at 01:19

    pffffft nice comment LOL… goldy scored 5 goals in case you didnt realise and Gawn DESTROYED him in the rucks.

      Monkey_Magic · 12/04/2016 at 07:35

      A lot of people crowing and putting down people on this page, we are here to help each other not be a douche bag!
      Derek raises valid statistics which are showing a massive downward spiral in stoppages this season.
      Due to gale force winds in Tasmania there were 109 stoppages for the game, as opposed to the 70's that Derek said. You would not expect that to happen many games this season due to most being played under artificial conditions.
      Gawn slaughtered Goldstein in the ruck, plain and simple. Goldy had a massive 1st quarter and was on about 100, very quiet after that. He should have 'Gawn' larger 200+
      He was saved in his first game with a 60 point last quarter, he's not playing as well as his average suggests and after his 172 is out of his average he will drop. Definitely can be got before the byes.
      Goldie isn't going going to kick 5 every game and Max won't have the opportunity to have that many stoppages in a game again to score so large. By the way that game was insane! Bend it like Boomer!!! 😉

        GazMan · 12/04/2016 at 08:22

        Well said Monkey – Has the word COMMUNITY been lost on folks? Everyone has there own opinions and subsequent strategy. You live by and die by your own sword in this game, we don't need Game Of Thrones types spearing each other in the back!

        Swans2012 · 12/04/2016 at 08:42

        Agreed monkey, at least Derek puts his opinions out there BEFORE the games rather than crowing I told you so after, his stats are accurate, before the 170 goldy and gawn were both on thin ice scoring wise….of the two I think gawn was much more impressive, I'm glad I didn't spend up on goldy, but I will admit I'm thinking of correcting Sinclair to gawn this week……

          Derek · 12/04/2016 at 11:52

          thanks guys

          Who needs Goldy when you have Rocky, BCrouch, Rich and Wingard 🙂

          Monkey_Magic · 12/04/2016 at 20:16

          Cheers Swans2012, he does indeed and very valid stats. Gawn was impressive but…I would be looking at Stef Martin or the mid based role of Mr Blicavs due to less stoppages. Mobile ruckman are then way to go this year.

    Wombatsfc · 12/04/2016 at 15:16

    Some actual facts about rucks this year http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-12/the-stats-f

Ben · 11/04/2016 at 13:04

ive got 230k in the bank should i…
upgrade ollie wines or patty cripps to garry ablett and have 110k spare
or should i upgrade jordan de goey to dayne zorko and have 20k left?

Please HELP!

    Mac · 11/04/2016 at 13:06

    De Goey to Zorko, you picked Wines and Cripps for a reason, stand by that decision. Don't trade premos unless injured/suspended for a lengthy period.

      Ben · 11/04/2016 at 13:15

      Thanks. Yeah i know but its Gary Ablett!

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:05

        Mac is just reciting 'the supercoach rule book'

        Good players do great moves. If ablett stays on the field all season then trading him in would be a great move, if not it's a mistake but so what you wanna be just playing in the herd mentality?

          annoying old lady · 11/04/2016 at 16:16

          I hear what you're saying Southern S, but lets move back a step and think about this for a second. If you're going for overall rank, maybe the ablett trade is necessary, and ASAP. However, if league wins/championships are your thing, then I would DEFINITELY NOT be upgrading a Wines or Cripps to Ablett. Why?

          Cripps or Wines may not be the powerhouse scorers (after 3 games) that we expected, but they could be extremely servicable as a M7-8 by years end if their scoring continues as is. You can upgrade to Ablett at a later stage, so at the pointy end of the season, you'll have the little master for SC finals. Trading him in now means you'll be one week further out from having a full premo side.

          Your other trade of De Goey to Zorko is much more sensible for the above reasons. De Goey is a potato. Plus you're adding a premo to your side, and are 1 week closer to being full premo.

            Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:44

            Good points that I agree on, this is the thing people ask questions and give zero details whatsoever of their team plans or season intentions.

            So they can expect to get a mixed bag of advice because there are so many factors to consider.

            Someone going for overall rank surely wouldn't have taken the de goey risk to begin with I'd say, but who knows.

            Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:46

            Plus let's put it this way, when you're talking about possibly the best player in the league, they just have to be locked in ASAP, regardless of this and that and being one trade closer to full premo.

bazza · 11/04/2016 at 13:13

2568 this week

    annoying old lady · 11/04/2016 at 16:09

    Overall/round rank?

Danners · 11/04/2016 at 13:22

Great work Big Carl! The start of the season has been a nightmare for me, only 2115 and a terrible overall ranking.
Trades this week for me are
Mills to Priddis
Menadue to cheap rookie
Unfortunately I didn't start with Fyfe or Dangerfield and just short of getting them in. I also have S.Jacobs to worry about. At the moment I have $300k in the bank
Thoughts?

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 14:19

    Mills to Priddis i like, however hold off on your menadue trade until Freeman from St Kilda gets a game, the kids a champion.

    Dean · 11/04/2016 at 22:39

    Danners your screwed anyway regarding playing for overall rank. Don't trade out Mills this week wait until he has peaked and then get rid of him for Priddis.

    Lastly again your rushing to get rid of your rookies, Menadue has a B/E of 19 exactly the same as Mills, give them another week, if they score 80+ this will bring their break even well and truly back in to the negative meaning they can still earn you a extra $50k to $100k+ if they score what we expected them to.

    We will NEVER select a ton of Rookies that are going to average us 90+
    There is always just the one maybe two that do that at the very most. If Mills & Menadue had a break even of 40 then fair enough I can totally understand your thoughts, however with break evens of 19 I would strongly suggest to hold on to your rookies and just give them at least one more week, coz a decent score can quite easily see them earning you a ton more cash.

      Monkey_Magic · 12/04/2016 at 07:46

      100% agree on holding rookies till they have peaked in cash and their break even is stuffed but if you can get a premium in and trade for a rookie who will make more cash then a quick cash/premium grab won't hurt. I'm 99% trading Mills to Hall and Menadue to Hartley as I've watched Hall enough to know he's a player and Hartley will be a good point scorer in defence. Sometimes you have to sacrifice rooks for premos. We have to remember as well that we can't trade all our rooks so culling dead weight a week or two early is no problem.

Hbrown · 11/04/2016 at 13:24

Rich cost me the game – trade to B Smith or B Houli? cheers community

    Ben · 11/04/2016 at 13:50

    houli

    SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 13:52

    I'd go Houli of those two and stump up with the extra cash. Not sold that Smith will be a top 6 calibre defender this season although he has got off to a decent start.

    Holty · 11/04/2016 at 14:47

    he should be playing this week so id hold him. unless you feel all of a sudden he is not a keeper?

    Big Carl · 11/04/2016 at 15:52

    I'm liking Houli as well and am considering entertaining a similar trade, Hbrown.

    Dean · 11/04/2016 at 22:49

    I have Rich also and I am having this dilemma also, part of me says keep him for now and part of me says trade Rich out and bring Gibson in. I have Rance so thats the only reason why I wont go Houli.

    Without a doubt go Houli or Gibbo over Smith.

tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 13:25

Do you guys think M.Adams and J.Weitering are keepers? Personally, after watching both of them play last weekend, i think they are. Adams is a big and strong mature aged rookie, he's good at taking intercept marks and he has a good consistent kick on him. Weitering is also in a similar boat for me, and whilst he might not have as good a body as Adams, he can still take intercept marks consistently and i would even go as far as to say that he has a "beautiful" kick.

    JamiesNinjas13 · 11/04/2016 at 13:43

    Based on history, they will never be keepers especially key position players. I have never had a first year player stay in the side at the end of the season. They will likely be the last upgraded/culled rookies however.

      tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 14:07

      I agree that key position forwards aren't worth it, but surely a key positions defender is? An intercept mark is worth the most points in champion data's scoring system at 8 points, which is equal to a goal, and an effective kick is worth 4 points. So they have the most potential out of anyone on the ground to get 12 points awarded from one 10 second play. I'm pretty sure i saw Adams do this about 6 times, and i saw Weitering do this about 8. I don't know about you but i think this warrants a Key Position Defender to be selected, and if Adams and Weitering can keep this output up, i think it would be silly to think about trading them. Especially considering the lack of scoring power that the Defense provides, with most premium defenders only averaging between 90 – 100. Thank you for the feedback though. 🙂

        JamiesNinjas13 · 11/04/2016 at 14:37

        Fingers crossed that I'm wrong and they both become keepers! Its hard to gauge a first year player after only 3 games because they have never had to endure a full AFL season. As I said, they will most likely be the last rookies upgraded/cull therefore we can see how they go for a good 15 or so rounds.

          tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 14:48

          Yeah, my fingers are crossed as well! 🙂

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:52

    I think Adams could be.

      Jonathan Camac · 12/04/2016 at 10:43

      Yeah same. Weltering and Adams are both in teams seeing a lot of the ball in that backline. They aren't short in supply. I'm hoping they stay keepers.

    Big Carl · 11/04/2016 at 15:54

    I think they are at least worth keeping for the majority of the season provided they score well. Once you reach full premo on all other lines you can reassess.

    Dean · 11/04/2016 at 23:36

    tuxCS You are spot on regarding Adams he seems the real deal, however now that Murphy is out I am hoping it wont effect his performance. One would automatically think well Adams should get more of the ball which is true but the Doggies are a very tight team driven by Murphy, it was Murphy that really gelled the team perfectly together, along with Bevo off course.
    As soon as Griffen became captain for the dogs they fell apart and everyone thought they would be a top side back then but Griffen just didn't have the leadership skills like Murphy has. Fingers crossed Boyd, Morris & Wood step up and fill that leadership void now that Murphy is out for the season.

    Lastly generally speaking if your D6 is scoring consistent 80's thats bloody good, I have yet to see a defence side where all 6 defenders averaged 100+
    Defence is the most volatile position in FF even if you chose the 6 highest priced defenders I guarantee you they won't all average 100 come season end and worst still those that do may score you a 130 one week and a 60 odd the following basically very inconsistent is what I am getting at.
    I would much rather someone that will score you 80+ week in and week out and have a average of 90 come season end, as opposed to a defender that scores inconsistent yet has a average of 100+ at the end of the season.

    So that being said it wouldn't surprise me to see Adams as a D6 providing Murphy's void doesn't effect the team, put it this way if Murphy's injury didn't happen, I would not have been surprised to see Adams finish as a top 10 defender, I know thats a big statement and what JamiesNinjas13 said is VERY TRUE, however Adams really does look the real deal, he plays AFL as though he has been playing it for a decade.
    As for Weitering im not totally sold on him just yet, I see him as being a nice stepping stone to a premo defender, however I hope I am wrong.

      tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 23:49

      Well thought out and accurate reply there mate. Love seeing that sort of stuff in the comments. I agree 100 percent with the idea of a consistent defender over an inconsistent one.

tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 13:35

This week i've made two trades, and with luck they should be the only two trades i have to make until the bye rounds. I traded Mills (who i don't think has the scoring capacity to increase enough for it to be worthwhile keeping him) to Zaharakis, as I think that in an obviously depleted Essendon outfit, he will increase in price alot and will keep a 105-110 average consistently. My second trade is De Goey to Zorko. I actually went to the Collingwood St Kilda game and i didnt see De Goey in the midfield as much as i would have liked, and when he was around the packs, he kind of just stood there and waited for the ball to come to him. De Goey as a player will be quite talented in a couple of years, but as of right now i dont have time to flirt with the possibility of him coming of age, so therefore he is out. After looking at team my structure, i have realized that i only need to make 4 DEFINITE upgrades, and 5 POSSIBLE upgrades, (depending on how those 5 players go), this puts me in a decent position, as in the worst case scenario, i will have to make 18 trades at most, and in my current state, that means that i have 8 trades left for injuries.

    Lachie · 11/04/2016 at 15:28

    Not a big fan of trading mills. Meant to wait until he's rested or peaked. De Goey scored well this round?.. Holding trades until round 5-7 is ideal.

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:50

    Zaha already gone up 60k, Mills BE only 19, if he gets a reasonable score this week he's back on track for good profit.

    De Goey got an 89, best score of the year for him, if he gets 90+ again this week you'll be kicking yourself.

      tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 16:08

      Even if De Goey scores more than Zorko this week i really wont care. Zorko is a premium and De Goey is a midpricer. I started with De Goey with the intention of using him as a stepping stone, however i gained money through other lines and i have no other use for it right now. Therefore i will just cut the time and increase my teams overall scoring potential. I saw De Goey play in person and he's not ready.

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:17

        Fair enough I'm more patient than you I guess, and will keep De Goey for another week.

        A premo you trade in could easily get a score of only 80 anyway. Early days in the season plenty of time to gives players a chance.

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:21

        You're the same person that wanted to trade Dea out too…………………there's a pattern to this way of trigger happy trading.

      Foti186 · 12/04/2016 at 06:22

      I think mills to score 80 this week.

    Dean · 11/04/2016 at 23:55

    Sorry tuxCS but your dreaming mate, if you think with luck trading out Mills to Zaharakis & De Goey to Zorko are going to be your only trades up until the bye rounds then you need more then a luck on your side, you do realise the bye rounds are 10 weeks away don't you?

    When you say " as in the worst case scenario, i will have to make 18 trades at most, and in my current state, that means that i have 8 trades left for injuries" END QUOTE
    Do you have a crystal ball? Who knows you might end up having a shit load of injuries and each trade will be worth GOLD towards the end.

    If you're playing overall rank then YES they are good trades, however you will be using trades in the next 10 weeks prior to the BYES that is for sure and certain.

    Be careful because those trades will disappear very bloody fast. Ask crouching, I haven't heard him say "TRADE ASS OFF" for a while now. lol

REN · 11/04/2016 at 13:39

Do we hold Pendles? I know his a gun but he doesnt seem to be playing enough mid time to be a top 10 mid.

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 14:15

    He's still playing with sore ribs mate, and once Buckley realises that playing Pendelbury at the back isnt working, he should be injected back into the mid. Even with him playing with sore ribs now, he's still giving you 100's every week, 100% HOLD.

      NutSack · 12/04/2016 at 01:21

      actually pendles does NOT have sore ribs and Buckley is too useless to realise where pendles should play… havent you noticed over the last 3 weeks??

      The pies midfield is based around Treloar and Adams and with sidey back pendles will play in the halves.

    Big Carl. · 11/04/2016 at 15:55

    I agree with Tux, Buckley has surely got to play him in the guts soon, where he belongs. Definitely hold.

      Dee · 11/04/2016 at 16:02

      Agreed….. HOLD.

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:16

    He's averaging 100 and dropped a paltry 30k.

    He gets a 140 next week suddenly he's a massive lock and averaging 110 again…………..

    Welcome to supercoach.

John · 11/04/2016 at 13:49

Should i go stefan martin for max gawn?

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 14:16

    Absolutely not there John, you picked Martin for a reason, now stick by your decision.

    Holty · 11/04/2016 at 15:09

    why? As Crouching would say, your chasing the car. Martin is averaging 104.

    Lachie · 11/04/2016 at 15:17

    no

    Westy · 12/04/2016 at 05:51

    Read this as max gain rather than max gawn. Same same!

Doc · 11/04/2016 at 13:52

Can some one clarify if it's possible to make a 3way substitution without trading.

Eg Blicavs Mid > ruck, grimley, ruck> forward, Kennedy forward > mid.

    siri · 11/04/2016 at 13:56

    Nope….. but havent tried…. never had the blitz in my team

    Michael · 11/04/2016 at 14:05

    I think you can Doc.

    Step 1:
    Click trade on grimley

    Step 2: sub Blicavs into the ruck

    Step 3: sub Kennedy into the mid

    Step 4: When you only have a forward to pick. Pick Grimley

    Have fun!! if it works. Had Blicavs last year didn't try anything like this but i would think it would work

      Damo · 11/04/2016 at 14:17

      Even if that worked wouldn't it cost you one of your precious 30 trades??

        siri · 11/04/2016 at 15:12

        If it works it wont cost a trade. He already got the players… hes simply moving them around

          NutSack · 12/04/2016 at 01:22

          LOL

      Hoot · 12/04/2016 at 13:19

      Doesn't work.

      Tried it years ago.

    Derek · 11/04/2016 at 18:41

    No. You need to make a trade.

    Otherwise only your DPP swing sets can change.

    Always look at doing multi movements when you trade. Even a simple MID to MID can offer other position changes

Michael · 11/04/2016 at 13:55

My team is:

B: Laird, JJ, Birchall, Weitering, Dea, Adams (Broad, Tippa)

M: GAJ, Jelwood, Shiel, Wines, Libba, B.Crouch, Parish, Mills (Petracca, R.Davis, Menadue)

R: Gawn, Mummy (Grimley)

F: Martin, Hall, Barlow, Wells, BKen, Kerridge (Papley, M.Brown)

597K left in the kitty

What should I do? give me suggestions and I'll help you with your SC dilemas

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/04/2016 at 14:07

    Need danger. Do you have enough to go mills – danger. Or even better would be mendue or Davis to danger. $600k. Spend the $ esp with bombers to come this week.

      Michael · 11/04/2016 at 14:12

      Yes, but I want my rookie generating cash for a bit longer. I was thinking along the lines of Barlow to Danger with a bit of DPP tweaking.
      Also should i trade Broad to Hartley but Woosha has said that Grima will most probably play this week and the man making way for him may be Hartley. Should I trade Broad to Ruggles instead?
      Thoughts?

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/04/2016 at 14:17

        Mills if he carries on as is won't moo too much.

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 14:12

    I'd probably think about trading out barlow there mate, even though he did manage to pull out a 99, that was with mundy missing and with sandilands playing. Next week Sandilands will be out and the week after that Mundy comes back into the side, pushing Barlow back into the forwards. I'd go a straight swap to Zorko if i were you. Other then that its all looking pretty decent, keep a close eye on B.Crouch and just wait until your rookies max out in value. When that time comes around, start upgrading as you please.

    fatboyfat7 · 11/04/2016 at 20:48

    I agree with Trigger Happy, Mills or Mendue to Danger for me. You need Dangerfield and Menadue's last 2 performances have been poor. Wait until teams are named and might give you some clarity.

    Hawks · 12/04/2016 at 20:19

    Dangerfield will be important, but if you want to keep your producing rookies, I would do-

    Houli in for M.Brown via swing.

    I would trust Adams up forward more than BenKen or Papley, and Houli is a keeper. You also retain you def/fwd swing.

Paul · 11/04/2016 at 14:05

Has anyone ever had a start to the year like Jarrad Waite, yet still be considered untouchable? It almost seems stupid that he's in 2.7% only, any probably won't get much higher than that despite averaging 139.7 so far….

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 14:09

    Well in all honestly Paul, i think that he might have a chance this year, as he only scored 2 or 3 goals last week and still managed to score 120+. I probably have to watch his next game and see what role hes playing.

      Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:05

      He plays on the HF, his role won't be changing at all. Doesn't mean his scoring won't drop dramatically soon.

      Going on historical stats, his (and every big forward's) scoring will be a roller coaster ride.

        Dee · 11/04/2016 at 16:50

        what's his BE?

          Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:19

          BE 1

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/04/2016 at 14:33

    Imagine the odds u would have got on that before the start of the season!

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:31

    Boat has been missed. Big forward line boats can easily sink anyway.

DEFNZS · 11/04/2016 at 14:14

Took a gamble on matty Boyd ad had a great record under the roof that hasn't come off. Watched last two games and he gets plenty of the ball in the first half in fact has been close to the highest point scorer in both matches but goes awol in.second half. Maybe an age thing? I know we shouldn't trade premos but I don't think he is a premo anymore.

Possible trades? Straight swap for houli or ?

As shaw has a high be plan on upgrading another Def to him next week.

Mac · 11/04/2016 at 14:16

Are there any rookies that should be culled this week?

    Tulendeena · 11/04/2016 at 16:37

    not yet
    Hewett is closest, but 29 is easily reachable (you'd hope!)

T man · 11/04/2016 at 14:16

The struggles of updated scores community. Had my guy in the league beat by 5. Dangerfield only had 154, came back and then he had 166. Putting the guy in front by 7. Had rich on the ground who did not play, had both brown and tippa has bench cover, tippa 71, brown, 38. Got given Browns which resulted in me losing by 7, same feeling as the doggies I know I was he better team, just made an error in bench cover.
Anyways at this stage, I'm only using on trade?
Rich to Houli.
Went to the Richmond game, and Houli looks sharp and his first 3 rounds proves it. Could be up there with one of the best if not the best defender this year

    Paul · 11/04/2016 at 14:31

    I'm tipping though that if you only had 1 emergency in the back line you would have gone with Brown.

      Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:44

      As if anybody would do that, tippa has a better score per min, and has a higher low score etc.

      Not sure why anybody would put both players on E anyway you get the lowest score.

        T man · 12/04/2016 at 02:14

        Well brown scored over 70 last round, plus I didn't know that they gave you the lowest score, I thought it was the highest.
        Stupid rule.

Chill · 11/04/2016 at 14:30

Considering just a straight swap of Barlow to Buddy.
No other issues in my team. Nervous about how Barlow will perform without Sandi.

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 15:43

    Barlow to either Hall, Zorko or Z.Merrett are all better options than buddy.

    Big Carl · 11/04/2016 at 16:00

    Barlow still not playing much in the midfield, more a half forward role that runs through the guts occasionally. I don't think Sandi's absence will impact him as much as people think.

Boltons Blues · 11/04/2016 at 14:32

I want Luke Parker but dont want to waste 2 trades getting him, nor do i want to cull one of my mids to get him, decisions, decisions

    Lachie · 11/04/2016 at 15:18

    just wait til byes

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:39

    Don't like the sounds of it, can't have all the form players, plus things can change.

    Boltons Blues · 11/04/2016 at 16:41

    the kid has taken his game to another level but, im sticking by my boy Patty Cripps

      Fevolution · 12/04/2016 at 17:40

      Lift paddy!!

mark · 11/04/2016 at 14:35

What should I do community
M. Brown to JJ or Brodie Smith

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 15:43

    Ive seen very good things from JJ, the way he plays is very good in supercoach terms.

Bing · 11/04/2016 at 14:41

McKenzie definitely is out for me community, and it's either Hartley or Ruggles who comes in.
Thoughts community?

    Mac · 11/04/2016 at 14:45

    Ruggles, Hartley may get dropped for Grima this week

    Michael · 11/04/2016 at 14:48

    Ruggles.

    Woosha: "We've been pretty happy with Michael Hartley, so we've got to weigh all that up, but Grima's available this week. We didn't really consider him for selection last week [as we] wanted to get him as fit as we possibly could first''

    Suggests that Hartley will go out for Grima.

    Here's the article link: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-11/bombers-loo

      Bing · 11/04/2016 at 14:59

      Ruggles has only played the one game though. Is it too risky to trade him in after one, or you reckon his JS is quite safe with Thurlow being out for the year?

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:35

        There's always an element of risk trading in any rookie.

        Will lonergan come back in next week? The week after?

      Phil · 11/04/2016 at 16:05

      I still think Hartleys JS is as good as Ruggles (if not better) with or without Grima. Can't see why they can't play both, Hartley has been solid, it was Gwilt that struggled undersized. Also, can't see Grima stringing too many games together going off what North fans have been saying, he has a crook back

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:11

        Agreed, hartley will get more games than ruggles.

          JamiesNinjas13 · 11/04/2016 at 16:19

          If essendon were focused mostly on development then Hartley should play every game all season. He was drafted and is apart of the Essendon list. Grima is a top up who won't be there next year. The way I see it is the top ups (especially the talls) will rotate all year to provide senior body support.

Michael · 11/04/2016 at 14:49

JJ. Only got 70 on Sunday but i'm sure he will come back and score a ton against Carlton.

dangerman · 11/04/2016 at 14:57

Thoughts on Greene to either zorko or dahlhaus? Who is best option? Or is there better options already have hall

    Mac · 11/04/2016 at 14:59

    Zorko, POD

    NutSack · 12/04/2016 at 01:26

    get rid of greene ASAP. he doesnt have the right attitude to stay in the firsts.

    And pendles will play 85% in the halves this year both back and front halves. WONT be a top 10 this year. Pies focus is on Treloar and Adams and the like. Pendles is a utility and not a midfielder this year and Buckley will stay firm on this.

      NutSack · 12/04/2016 at 01:26

      ooops- this is for the next comment

MOC · 11/04/2016 at 15:07

Need to trade 1 of Pendles, Wines. Already trading Greene to zaha

    Lachie · 11/04/2016 at 15:18

    id hold wines

    Marco_Polo94 · 11/04/2016 at 15:20

    you dont need to trade any of those players

      Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:29

      Exactly, want and need are two different things.

      tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 15:38

      Agree with Marco 100%, Pendles and Wines will end the year with a 100 average, no need to trade them, they are solid m6-m8 options.

        Dee · 11/04/2016 at 16:03

        HOLD both…. what's wrong with you?!

    NutSack · 12/04/2016 at 01:26

    get rid of greene ASAP. he doesnt have the right attitude to stay in the firsts.

    And pendles will play 85% in the halves this year both back and front halves. WONT be a top 10 this year. Pies focus is on Treloar and Adams and the like. Pendles is a utility and not a midfielder this year and Buckley will stay firm on this.

Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 15:26

Sitting 500th overall and going to pull the trigger on sheridan and greene and bring in ruggles and robbie grey, this leaves with smith/gibson and all rookies down back but with mid field of hanners,fyfe,ablett,danger,grey,wines,hunter,

Interested for your thoughts?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:37

    Ruggles could end up a donut in a week or two, maybe a little early to lose faith in sheridan?

      Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 16:33

      I think ive already lost faith im hoping he can average 70 which is around sheridan anyway, gotta take some risk some where and scott said he wanted him inside for round 1 if it was possible so he must like him

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:38

        I just see ruggles in and lonergan out as a structural change, not sure it will last.

        If opponents have a bigger and taller forward line then lonergan will come back in.

        Beagz · 12/04/2016 at 12:44

        now is not the time to take a risk like that. You're 500th overall, this time of season the number 1 thing that is going to make you fall back to the pack is silly, nervous trades.

        Hold strong, wait until your rookies are ripe, then pull the trigger in the bye rounds. It sounds simple because it is.

      Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 16:40

      My other option is weitering/selwood

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 11/04/2016 at 20:00

    better off holding until ruggles will make cash

Michael · 11/04/2016 at 15:35

Any ideas on what to do with Mckenzie and Greene, I've only got 5k in the bank, any ideas community.

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:36

    Need more details ie your entire team

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 15:38

    Downgrade Mckenzie to Ruggles, upgrade Greene to Zorko, Hall or R.Gray

      The Mountain · 11/04/2016 at 17:33

      Don't downgrade to ruggles, he has played one game and only played because lonegan got droppped, not injured, so he will can come out of the side at anytime

        DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:30

        Lonergan got dropped on form and Ruggles came in and did better. That sort of suggests that his JS is currently better than lonergans doesn't it?

Sean · 11/04/2016 at 15:41

JJ or Brodie Smith?

    Vindude · 11/04/2016 at 15:57

    JJ for sure, he will come back and ton up against the Blues!!

    Dee · 11/04/2016 at 16:04

    I'm liking Brodie Smith a lot this week….

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 11/04/2016 at 20:00

    Smith

Tom · 11/04/2016 at 15:52

is B.Crouch to Zaharakis a good trade or should I hold?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 15:58

    Why didn't you do that trade last week before zaha's price rise?

    I'm not sure it's a great move now,

      Tom · 11/04/2016 at 16:42

      had other problems

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:16

        Hope brad crouch is named this week I suppose. If not then maybe consider trading.

        I'm holding him, his BE is only 25.

          Leighroy · 11/04/2016 at 20:18

          Crouch is out for another 2-3 weeks with the hammy

            Paul · 11/04/2016 at 21:38

            Which, given his history, probably means he's out for the season lol.

            Rooster · 11/04/2016 at 22:16

            Source??

              Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 22:55

              Crows website, AFL website. He's out for weeks time to trade.

    Phil · 11/04/2016 at 16:14

    Zaha would have to ave 110 from here on for it to be worthwhile. I think he will average 105 so I'd say not a good trade, but not a terrible one either. You could maybe justify it if Crouch is absent this week and your only backups are spuds (ie Hewitt, Davis)

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:49

    News just in Crouch out for another 3-4 weeks according to crows website. (credit to sean's mob)

    Start looking carefully at your options. Zaha already had a big price rise, but still fairly impressive in a tough game at Adelaide Oval.

    DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:05

    It's a high value points increase Tom and there's nothing wrong with those sorts of trades.

    NutSack · 12/04/2016 at 01:28

    hahahahaha soon as crouch was out i traded him… the kid is made out of lightbulb material!!!!! he'll miss 4-5… you watch

Westy · 11/04/2016 at 15:57

Barlow to Ablett. Too many round 14 bye players I my team which impacts on Parker

Big Carl · 11/04/2016 at 15:58

HOLD. The injury to Bob Murphy could see him get more of the ball in the coming matches.

    Monkey_Magic · 12/04/2016 at 07:57

    Keep him, I'm waiting for to drop further so I can trade him in, will get a lot of the ball!

Ethan017 · 11/04/2016 at 16:03

anyone trading in Jarrad Waite number 1 scoring player in the comp

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:09

    Not a chance.

      SC16 · 11/04/2016 at 18:00

      why? before you say anything watch him play, looks like a star, possible foward upgrade, but i like the look of zorko and even harvey

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:30

        Looks like a star? Been watching Waite play for years……………sure he looks better than when he was at carlton.

        If he can play great all season then I may lock him in before finals but it's so doubtful and I don't need premos that can fail, and he is in that bracket.

        One trade in now and one trade out if he fails………..it's logical not to buy him for 500k.

    DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:14

    Yep I've traded him in Ethan. I had McGovern stinking up my backline and Dea on the pine so I traded the gov sent walla down back and used part of my cash surplus to get Waite. If he gets knocked out at the first bounce he'll still go up 40k

      fatboyfat7 · 11/04/2016 at 20:54

      Don't have him but I will admit his ceiling is HUGE. Reminds me of the Cloke Bruyn manoeuvre a few ago, don't see keeping it up all year but if you were on early then happy days. Dunno is it too late now though…

    Grahame Lebroy · 12/04/2016 at 11:27

    I would only trade in key forwards if your very confident that the team they play in moves the ball quickly into the forward line

azza · 11/04/2016 at 16:03

do people think sam gray should be traded out? averaging same as barlow and was on 50 at HT last week before copping some friendly fire..

Dee · 11/04/2016 at 16:04

is JJ still a must have after that 70 on the weekend?

    Dee · 11/04/2016 at 16:07

    I'm thinking C. Enright, B. Smith, KK or even Malceski….

    Ethan017 · 11/04/2016 at 16:07

    Was never a must have even if he does produce 70s everyone has him

      Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:36

      He was never a must, but he was a good risk move on an in form player of his potential for 418k.

      A low score of 70 is fine against the best team in the comp.

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:09

    He was a must for 418k with 2 big scores behind him.

    I still think he is a good value keeper for the backline and will average 90-100.

    But if looking at him right now for 450k and a 70 then it doesn't look so great.

    This is why I wanted him before the hawks game, lock him in cheap and have faith. Waiting for him to increase in price and play the premiers was a poor choice.

    SD6_ · 11/04/2016 at 20:19

    Consider it a POD to not have him

Banksie700 · 11/04/2016 at 16:09

community, i was thinking of trent mckenzie to hartley and then barlow to zorko thoughts?

    Banksie700 · 11/04/2016 at 16:12

    or maybe even ruggles

      Mac · 11/04/2016 at 16:17

      Ruggles

        Benjamima Puddleduck · 11/04/2016 at 20:01

        Hartley, people who say Ruggles have no idea

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:29

    Barlow could use another week.

    People are locking in ruggles after one week in a geelong team that omitted lonergan.

    I repeat omitted. Not injured. Depending on opponents ruggles could be dropped at any time.

    People locking ruggles in after one week are amateurs, take note.

    If we think things through then hartley should have better job security in the top ups, and we can check if he's playing his third game (just in time for price rise) before we lock him in this week.

      Banksie700 · 11/04/2016 at 16:36

      yeah im not really sure what to do with mckenzie

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 12/04/2016 at 10:09

      Yeah wouldn't lock Ruggles in until named for third game though I have had him from the start was a nice vc loop first 2 games. I think Scott does like the lad and there is a spot there for him to make his own but wait until he is on the bubble.

Poljal · 11/04/2016 at 16:15

Looking to upgrade Hewett using cash left over from Rocky to Papley last week;

Thoughts on?
Gray/Parker/Fyfe

    Cam_H · 11/04/2016 at 16:54

    Poljal,
    I'm in a similar situation myself. For now I'm going with the decision to bring in Fyfe, but you can also add Zorko to that list, and I'm even having a sideways glance at Montagna and Boomer with the old Fwd-Mid switcharoo, despite their tooth length.

    Danners · 11/04/2016 at 18:58

    #Fyfeislife he needs to come in

      Poljal · 11/04/2016 at 19:54

      Second look and I'm about 1k short for FYFE, will need to go Mills/Menadue instead for that to worm

        DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:03

        Mills and Menadue are both bench players Fyffe is a freak who scores big points regularly. Unless your contest is for the most $ not contributing to team score get fyffe whatever it takes.
        Ha if the cheetahs slogan had have been 'Get Fyffe whatever it takes' instead of 'We'll inject whatever it takes' we wouldn't have so many cheap defenders.

          Poljal · 11/04/2016 at 20:30

          Haha yeah just feel Mills and Menadue have a bit more cash growth left in them compared to Hewett

            DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:34

            I agree but you can't beat points on the scoreboard

      Benjamima Puddleduck · 11/04/2016 at 20:03

      Fyfe going to do the ruck work now since Sandi is sidelined.
      New play by Lyon…….

      =/

      Hah jk, but wouldnt be surprised if Lyon tried to pull something like that

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 12/04/2016 at 10:11

    Be a bit careful with fyfe with sandi out

Ethan017 · 11/04/2016 at 16:18

I'm downgrading Michael Barlow then upgrading Rockliff to Ablett
Needs to be under 410k
Jordan De Goey, Matthew Wright or Kane Lambert
Leaning towards De Goey

    Banksie700 · 11/04/2016 at 16:23

    i have been looking at lambert, who are you going to upgrade after this trade?

      Ethan017 · 11/04/2016 at 16:24

      Rockliff to Ablett

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 17:09

    Ive got Lambert, i wouldnt recommend trading into him. I personally like Wright as he plays a follower role for carlton.

Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:24

If you really have to (which you don't) then De Goey is going the worse out of the three, so seems the wise trade.

You've already sat one week on rocky with a donut, so I'd probably just wait one more for him to play again.

Barlow just got 100 and you've already lost a bit of cash on him.

Just seems you're a week late on these trades, last week I probably would've said go for it.

Big G · 11/04/2016 at 16:28

All 30 trades left. Is a corrective change from a forward premium currently averaging 90 to Zorko/Aaron Hall pointless or good thinking?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:34

    Why wouldn't you lock hall in last week before price rise. Corrective trades should be done in week one and two.

    Anyway Hall went up 60k kinda missed out there, but if he keeps going like he is then he'll be worth 600k eventually anyway.

    Who's the forward averaging 90 you wanna trade?

      hubba · 11/04/2016 at 17:25

      yep – Round 2 is def the only round you def should be taking the opportunity to make 2 corrective trades – unless your team is perfect of course

        Big G · 11/04/2016 at 17:37

        Point taken. Forward is Wingard, whom I see averaging 90-100 Seeing Zorko hasn't only played 2, I was thinking of grabbing him now as he may average 105-110 with all the lions gun mids gone, but it could be a pointless trade. Stand by my originally selected premiums ?

          Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:52

          Wingard to Hall last week would've been the perfect trade as it was an innured player to a player with a large price rise and in ripping form.

          It's now a 500k keeper to another 500k keeper. Wingard will probably play this week.

          @footy_bec · 11/04/2016 at 18:20

          Wingard will be back this week. I'd hold.

    DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:23

    It's all a question of timing Big G. Burn Wingard now to get hall or wait six weeks and burn wingard plus your best rookie to get Hall

      Monkey_Magic · 12/04/2016 at 08:40

      Keep Winguard, burn someone else this week for Hall.

Ben · 11/04/2016 at 16:36

This week im going:
Graham- Parker
Greene – dusty
Had a lot lf cash from the barlow to papley downgarde last week.
Now have 26 trades left.
Feel both are worthy upgrades as it will provide my team with some more consitent scoring.
Thoughts?

    Mac · 11/04/2016 at 16:41

    Personally would go Greene to Zorko

      Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:59

      Agreed

Coxy · 11/04/2016 at 16:40

I know it's a sin, but I'm thinking of side trading premos. Pendlebury for Fyfe. I feel pendleburys niggling injuries will hurt him for a majority of the season. Don't want to miss the boat on fyfes price reduction either. Should I back myself in or is it a waste of a trade?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:59

    Pendlebury still averaging 100 I wouldn't.

    Socko · 11/04/2016 at 17:00

    No. Waste of a trade. He has a rib problem but is still performing adequately. Trades are like gold. Come round 18 and you will be thankful.

    Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 17:01

    Pies are only few more losses off season being cooked, wouldnt expect pendles to be playing at the end of the year when season is over

      Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:13

      Pendles will still be playing at season's end, unless he is injured but his ribs will be healed way before that time.

        Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 17:26

        No chance hes playing last few rounds if his had nagging injuries through year and there season is done

          Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:29

          If he's got nagging injuries no, but it's round 4, he'll probably be 100% at round 10………….

            Dee · 11/04/2016 at 20:16

            waste…

james · 11/04/2016 at 16:42

got tom cutler and he was a spud again and i feel like he needs to go i have 143k in the bank do i trade him up to Bsmith or downgrade him to ruggles and then use the 350k left to upgrade gresham to buddy i scored over 2500 this week

my current defence
Houli, Laird, Sheridan, Weitering, Adams, Dea (Tipungwuti, Cutler)

my fwd line
Barlow, Hall, De goey, Wells, Kerridge, Mccarthy (menadue pap)

so community is it better to make my DEF or FWD stronger

    Gord29 · 11/04/2016 at 17:00

    i would go down to ruggles and upgrade gresham

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:09

    I wouldn't trade in Ruggles till he's played two and named for his third.

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 11/04/2016 at 20:08

    I have Cutler too, thought he may have at least performed a little better than he has. By no means is he playing bad, his SC relevance isnt that good. He isnt losing money yet, so will hold another week.
    Dont trade in Ruggles till he makes cash, bring him in now, he might play next week then miss 6 games on the trot and your left with a semi wasted trade.

    Hartley is your man to bring in this week, if you are to make a trade.

Rick · 11/04/2016 at 16:47

is it worth using 2 trades to go mills to cheap rookie and then Greene to Hall?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 16:58

    Usually I'd say not to trade mills yet but I also couldn't imagine not having hall in team.

    It's probably better for the long term to do the trade now I suppose. Don't have any other mids to trade out instead of mills?

      Rick · 11/04/2016 at 18:18

      Hewett but not sure if i'd have enough $$$?

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:27

        Yeah I think one of them will be dropped this week. If it's hewett dropped and you have enough cash then that would be the only way to go.

Pinidu · 11/04/2016 at 16:47

Community,

Here is my team at the moment: 375K in the bank and 29 trades remaining

DEF: Shaw, Houli, Laird, Wetiers, Dea, Adams (Brown, AMT)
MID: Fyfe, GAJ, Danger, Pendles, Libba, Mills, Parish, BenKen (Davis, Hewett, Dunkley)
RUC: NicNat, Gawn (Wyatt)
FWD: Barlow, Hall, Greene, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (McCarthy, Papley)

I'm a but worried about Dunkley not playing again so I was wondering about a trade to either Hartley or Ruggles (via multiple DPP's)…a potential Greene –> Dusty/Zorko has also crossed my mind…any suggestions?

Thanks

    Mac · 11/04/2016 at 17:07

    Mills to Robbie Gray

    Grahame Lebroy · 12/04/2016 at 11:33

    Def is great I would let that be for now. I would only be looking at either Mills, McCarthy. Maybe changing them to a mid pricer that you think would be a good pick as a stepping stone

Tulendeena · 11/04/2016 at 16:55

What's Spuddy Greene's BE?

Him down to Hartley might still be on the cards…

    Mac · 11/04/2016 at 17:06

    Ruggles over Hartley

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:08

    80 be

SC Shelia · 11/04/2016 at 16:57

Whare are peples thought on Tmac should I keep him?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:07

    Defenders will have some low games, he scored 110 against GWS in round one I think you should just keep him and ride the ups and downs.

    SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 17:22

    If you picked him you've just to ride that KPP roller coaster I'd say. Could ton up next week or it could be another 55, it's impossible to predict.

    It's why many coaches steer clear of them and prefer the smaller rebounding defender types or the ones who can get midfield/wing minutes for more consistent scoring although even they can have their ups and downs too.

    hubba · 11/04/2016 at 17:43

    yep – keeper – keep your premos unless theyre really injured

Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 16:58

Leaning towards selwood/weitering instead of grey/ruggles for greene and sheridan!

This leaves my team like this

B. Gibson,Smith,Adams,Weitering,Dea,Tippa (brown,brand)

M. Danger,Ablett,Hanners,Fyfe,Selwood,Libba,Wines,Hunter (mills,davis,hewett)

R. Goldy,Gawn (chol)

F. Hall,Dalhaus,Wells,Kennedy,Paps,Kerridge (menadue,petracca)

    hubba · 11/04/2016 at 17:33

    I'm also wondering whether its too late too get weitering in – he's the key rookie i missed on. I figure he might end up 440K defender at most – so +150K growth – the minimum rookie return – but could be a permanent D5. If i go for ruggles i should waltz in +250K eventually but hows his job security since he's an upgraded rookie? Go the Sel/Weit combo – Selwood will come good, but only pick Weitering if you intend to keep him as D5 and not a cash cow

      Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 17:54

      Yep thats the dilemma i think he can avg 80-85 and his job security is fine which i will take as permanent D5-6 long term, i missed him and kennedy as rookies from the start so not to bad, happy i started with petracca as i see him being a massive cash cow and ill keep brand and chol as loop holes for now

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:25

        Mate how can you be happy with petracca he hasn't even played a game.

        Everyone else will be able to see what he can do for two games and grab him if worthy on his third game week.

        There's nothing good about sitting on a rookie that isn't playing and it's already round 4.

          Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 20:36

          Because his had 30 the last 2 weeks in the vfl mate and will save me a trade in 2 weeks, going by your know it all comments u must of either won the whole lot before or are going 2 win it, u've obviously had your side nailed from the start by the sounds of it!

            Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 21:54

            Sorry I shouldn't have pointed out a move I see as amateurish.

              Glenn · 11/04/2016 at 22:33

              Well i put higher value on saving a trade after 5 rounds of footy than maybe making 60k on a rookie couldn't care less on what you think is amateurish, lost 2 trades last year picking blokes that played round 1 then 2 weeks later were donuts,

                Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 22:53

                Then you didn't look into the rookies well enough and if they had job security. Or they got injured and it was due to bad luck.

                Either way starting with donuts is amateurish. Holes appear in our teams eventually through injury, suspension etc

                I don't care if you value my opinion or not I'm free to post.

                  Monkey_Magic · 12/04/2016 at 08:50

                  I've been using Petracca to loop hole scores through Mid/Fwd line, helped me get extra points. Not bad to start with a couple of non playing looping rooks, Mitch King on the pine in ruck for C loop hole. All just a different take on this wonderful game of ours.

                    50_Shades · 12/04/2016 at 09:02

                    And the first egg was named 'thought'… I agree monkey, I've been loopholing Petracca and I think it works well. Plus he'll play soon enough.

DDJ · 11/04/2016 at 17:18

Is bubble boy Jayden Short worth bringing in for cash generation?

Considering going Rockliff > Short and Rich > Hartley, thoughts?

    The Mountain · 11/04/2016 at 17:25

    Hold rich and upgrade rocky if you can, short doesn't have good job security so he proably wont play many more games with edwards to come back

    hubba · 11/04/2016 at 17:41

    Hartley might make way for Grima so keep an eye on it – i reckon Short will be in and out of the team so no security there plus he hasn't been that impressive. If you reckon Rocky has to go you're stuck holding out another week i reckon unless you want to go premo for premo. Could better of getting in petracca or similar in advance of them getting a game in coming weeks.

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:42

    Already sat on rocky for a week, may as well sit one more. Rocky can score BIG.

    Rich is a known super coach burn man.

    DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:26

    Trade Rocky and get the best mid that you can, not a rookie.
    History suggests that Rocky will drop 100k over the first 2 weeks that he comes back from injury

Chris · 11/04/2016 at 17:19

Zorko or Montagana?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:26

    zorko

    tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 17:26

    Zorko easily

      Monkey_Magic · 12/04/2016 at 08:51

      Montagna is way too expensive currently, wait till he drops.

tuxCS · 11/04/2016 at 17:24

How come nobody is talking about Zorko? I think he's a fantastic player. Also will be playing his 3rd game next week, and is due for a price rise. Scores of 148 and 112 in his first two.

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:39

    There's 5 or more posts on this page talking about whether they should trade in zorko. He's on the radar and is a great option.

    DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:28

    Bought him in for Rocky last week

Fluffymoose · 11/04/2016 at 17:27

Looking at making one trade this week.
Should I a) go s Martin to goldstein or b)bartel to d Martin?
Thinking Martin and Goldstein will score similar the majority of weeks and is Goldstein worth the $100,000 for his odd massive score? Or am I better off getting dusty in for a more consistent increase in points without the odd massive score?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:34

    No and no.

    Martin is a great ruckman, have faith.

    Bartel just scored a 110…………..

      Fluffymoose · 11/04/2016 at 17:41

      Yep and had a 57 the week before. Would long term look at upgrading bartel anyway and want dusty in my side by the end and thought now might be a good opportunity?

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:07

        Jimmy could just be warming up.

        His low score is 61? (not 57)…………in his 2014 year averaging 100+ he had 3 scores between 57-68.

        Last year he had a 5(injured) and two 66's. It just doesn't matter until it's a confirmed trend.

        This year it's 110, 88, 61. Looks normal to me and a couple of decent scores will negate the low.

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:10

        Oh and why would you be looking at upgrading jimmy in the long term anyway? The guy is a keeper, and he was never going to be a cash cow.

        This why at the start of the season you need to really think about every player you lock in and why.

          fluffymoose · 11/04/2016 at 18:26

          cheers, think i might have an itchy trigger finger looking at possible trades

            DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:18

            I agree with Southern fluffy. JBart aint the sort of bloke you trade out if he's fit and I can't see any reason for trading SMartin before the byes.

Michael · 11/04/2016 at 17:30

Toby greene to zorko or save some cash and go z merrett

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:40

    I'd probably go zorko seems to be in good form.

jacko · 11/04/2016 at 17:43

Do i trade rocky and greene? and who to?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:00

    You sat on rocky a week, why not wait a bit longer?

    Greene can go, seems pretty unreliable.

Michael · 11/04/2016 at 17:50

who do i start on field this week, tipung-wuti, mitch brown or ruggles?

    DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 20:23

    Dea

      Blakeyp · 11/04/2016 at 21:35

      That was not one of the options. I would say Tip or Ruggles, leaning towards Ruggles liked his game

Joel · 11/04/2016 at 17:58

1. Mundy to Fyfe/Parker

2. Mundy to Fyfe/Parker, Rich to JJ

3. Mundy to Parker, Barlow to a forward or mid at 588K

Thinking Mundy to Parker and holding the second trade. And target Fyfe as the first upgrade.

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:19

    Not sure about Mundy, could still be a keeper. They've lost to two very fast teams in GCS and Doggies.

    Rich to JJ should've been done last week. maybe that boat has sailed?

    Could do a Rich down to hartley as long as he is named this week. Keep the cash for your first cow upgrade.

    Barlow needs to be kept for another week. You kept him last week and he got 100, why trade now……………

      Joel · 11/04/2016 at 18:26

      Would of got rid of Rich and Barlow last week. However with Rocky, Crouch, Mundy, dunkley and Gresham out I had no choice to keep them.

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:53

        Yep fair enough Joel, Crouch is out for another 3 weeks or so by the way.

        You have some decisions to make.

          Joel · 11/04/2016 at 19:05

          Lol. Looks like Rich and Barlow are safe once again. I'm just going to wait till teams are named. I am sure I'll another 3 outs by then. Cheers Southern S

Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 17:59

Don't like the ruggles trade.

Tipu over brown. Has a higher low score. Has a higher score per min.

SC16 · 11/04/2016 at 18:02

Boomer Harvey!! massive POD!

    Monkey_Magic · 12/04/2016 at 08:56

    Massive POD yes but not going to kick 6 every week.

Jess_coach · 11/04/2016 at 18:07

Rich out, but that only have 490k to play with.

Options appear to be Docterty (103 ave), Bartel (86 ave), or B. Smith (95 ave).

Already have johannisen.

Trade to one of these or keep rich?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:16

    Trade him out never liked him, still have scars from the burns.

    Hasn't averaged more than 80 since 2013. Was shocked to see so many people trading him in this year.

    I protested, I rang my doomsday bell, I got on my knees and begged people not to lock him in. I tried community.

      Jess_coach · 11/04/2016 at 18:19

      Great. Leaning towards docherty. Good trade?

        SC16 · 11/04/2016 at 18:22

        docherty=gun!

        Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:22

        Yep I like it.

          Jess_coach · 11/04/2016 at 18:30

          Thanks so much. An 116 against gold-coast was a pretty good effort. The 70 against sydney concerns me abit, but yup he's locked

            Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:38

            Don't be concerned by a 70 at all. Dangerfield got a 77 if I remember correctly just last week.

        DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 19:45

        Solid Trade Jess he's young, fast, good skills and courageous but also level headed and has a good footy brain. He also gets midfield time and occasionally kicks goals, but you probably already knew all that which is why you're leaning his way.
        They're all attractive as potential keepers but doch has less associated risk.

    Phil · 11/04/2016 at 19:15

    Kolodjashnij is another you might wanna consider. Nice little pod too, price unchanged

      DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 19:47

      I forgot about him. He's a real good option has same bye as doch I think

Jack · 11/04/2016 at 18:28

How can I get hall in??
Do I trade for Cripps and swing him forward
Cause I don't wanna use two trades trading out s Gray or Barlow as I don't have enough and this will be cheapest I get hall for and will be top 6 forward and Cripps won't be! Help

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:36

    Geez Jack, Hall should've been locked in last week at the latest.

    I don't like the Cripps trade out. You may have to pay full price for hall down the track after culling cows.

Sean's Mob · 11/04/2016 at 18:35

Crows website as part of its injury update (11 April) has Brad Crouch listed as being out for 2-3 weeks

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:45

    Crap. He's out. Bang…….Lock in a gun I suppose. Missed the Parish and Oliver boats and I have a healthy war chest.

    SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 18:53

    The official AFL injury list has been updated accordingly. I think even the most ardent of B.Crouch believers like Sarah will have to dump him now.

    Most coaches probably saw him as a stepping stone as I do, rather than a season long keeper, and another 2-3 weeks on the sidelines, if not more, would see those plans equate to an epic fail unfortunately. I was looking for an excuse to bring JJ in so sounds like Brad is my man to make that happen.

      Joel · 11/04/2016 at 20:05

      That's what I am thinking. If Mundy is out for 2-3 Mundy to Zorko gives me the coin to go crouch to JJ

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 11/04/2016 at 20:12

    Such a great post,i want to give you 2 thumbs up!

    The info would have most likely come across my feed eventually, but i like knowing this stuff early.

Paulie Walnuts · 11/04/2016 at 18:38

I have R.Laird but also want to get B.Smith later – 2 backs from the same club, thoughts about that ??

    Tigerwoes · 11/04/2016 at 18:42

    I feel equally awkward about such a move. The stats probably say it's fine but it feels like two many def eggs in the crowd nest (I reckon crouching one would have a story about that)…

      Tigerwoes · 11/04/2016 at 18:43

      ^crow's nest…

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 18:46

    I don't mind it.

      Derek · 11/04/2016 at 19:03

      I started with both. Thinking about crows draw it looked good idea. Happy so far

        Monkey_Magic · 12/04/2016 at 08:59

        Me too, both looking good. Brodie off to a great start considering his less then ideal pre season, Laird = Gun!!!

fluffymoose · 11/04/2016 at 18:46

is it worth trading hartley in? if so who should go, dunkley or gresham? or should i hold them hoping they get game time before a mid rookie emerges to downgrade to?

    Derek · 11/04/2016 at 18:58

    show your team

    FootyFanatic · 11/04/2016 at 19:00

    I wouldn't, there is some talk that he might be dropped for Grima this round

    Kev · 11/04/2016 at 19:31

    Wait until teams are named

CJudd3Votes · 11/04/2016 at 18:51

Technical question for the community, I built my team using my facebook login and now i want to buy gold, it asks me to log in to my newscorp account or whatever it's called to buy it, does that mean i would lose my team to get gold? or will the facebook login and this herald sun account join up?

    Kev · 11/04/2016 at 19:30

    If you have the same email address for Facebook and your news corp account it should link up

Dylan · 11/04/2016 at 18:51

Shaw, Houli, Laird, Weitering, Dea, Adams (Brown, Tippa)

Fyfe, Ablett, Pendles, Selwood, Libba, Mills, Kerridge, Menadue (Davis, Dunkley, Petracca)

Goldy, Sauce (Chol)

Wingard, Hall, Barlow, Wells, Kennedy, Milera (Papley, McCarthy)

About $236k in the bank. What should I do?

    Ethan017 · 11/04/2016 at 18:59

    Hold on all of those players apart from maybe Menadue. He looked really poor on the weekend and facing the axe

    Derek · 11/04/2016 at 19:01

    If Dunkley not named I'd trade him to Hartley or Ruggles

    DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 19:57

    Nice team Dylan but a bit soft in the middle where the big points are scored. I'd Burn Wingard or Pendle for Parker and Danger.
    Or go slow and switch menadue fwd click trade and swing brown forward to get ruggles then turn mills into Danger or Parker.

    I don't expect much agreement with either option from the community

      Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 21:46

      You'd burn Wingard or Pendles before Barlow?

      Horrible.

        DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 21:52

        hahah not usually I didn't notice that he a big spud up front as well

          Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 22:12

          I know what you mean by wanting parker and danger but Dylan kinda made his choice with his guns I think he should stick with them.

          Maybe do kerridge forward barlow out move for one of them.

    THE SALTSHAKER · 11/04/2016 at 20:26

    Hold….Mills might be out soon if McVeigh comes back in to rest the young kid, watch closely, let them fatten a bit more youve got plenty of milk there, theres a few knocking on doors. Maybe get Jacobs to Gawn or Nic Nat looks like you can spare a trade by having the right cows. Weitering to Ruggles next week if looks the goods and Weiter's over $300k so you can bank another $200k and turn B.Ken into a $600k prem. You look in good shape

sharmanism · 11/04/2016 at 19:00

Community I need some guidance. I need to get GAJ into my team.

I've got rookie cows fattening nicely and 100K in the bank. I've got Fyfe, Danger, R Gray, Shiel, Hall in the guts that I want to keep.

I'm thinking of putting Barlow on the block this week with one of either Lonergan, Hunter or B Crouch and bringing in GAJ and Ruggles.

Who should I trade out of Lonergan, Hunter, B Crouch?

    Mac · 11/04/2016 at 19:05

    Crouch

    SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 19:08

    Yes B.Crouch is the easy answer as he's now listed as at least another 2-3 weeks on the sidelines.

      sharmanism · 11/04/2016 at 19:14

      Thanks, I wasn't aware he was out for another few weeks.

        SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 19:56

        That's ok mate. That news only surfaced in the last few hours and has now been confirmed on the official AFL injury list. Bit of a bugger but at least it makes the hold or trade decision a lot easier to make.

    THE SALTSHAKER · 11/04/2016 at 20:12

    Can you get Hall to your fwd line via Hunter? hold Crouch as a bank?

Ethan017 · 11/04/2016 at 19:01

Christian Petracca two weeks in a row with the seconds. Anyone know how long to he returns?
Also Ben Keays 39 touches in last weeks 122 point loss for Lions' seconds was unlucky not to get the call up last week

    Jimi · 11/04/2016 at 22:27

    Hopefully soon, with the way most of the rookies are going this year we'll need decent downgrade options by round 5-6.

      fatboyfat7 · 12/04/2016 at 00:37

      Maybe sooner if like me your have Menadue and Hewett for are starting to misfire…

Cashcows · 11/04/2016 at 19:11

I've got Wines, Greene and Barlow with only 5k in the bank

I'm leaning towards keeping Wines but I think Greene needs to go and I'm not sure about barlow given Sandi is out.

Is dropping Greene and barlow and doing an up and down too crazy? If not, who would I get? Ruggles and Zorko? Ruggles seems super unproven to jump on with only 1 score. And I dont want to be bleeding cash from all 3 of these players.

    THE SALTSHAKER · 11/04/2016 at 20:01

    Wines hasnt looked as explosive/fierce at contest as his did early rounds last year before injury. Glad i ditched to Parker rnd 1, handballs too much, not getting the outside spread as cherry on top to go 120-130s. Bit stiff last week had a few CP/CL hand passes chopped off in first half. Would only go up to a Fyfe/GAJ/Selwood/Danger CP beast 115 to 130 proven star. Mitchell would be another option as he looks good nick, playing his high possession link up role this year to aplom. Hold…wait n see if Pendles, Rocky drop but then find form again playing winning mid roles as will hold his price. Stick fat to byes at least

      Cashcows · 11/04/2016 at 21:05

      Already got fyfe/GAJ/Danger/Gray. But yeah he gets enough of the ball, just butchers it at times and handballs as much as JPK.

      Will hold but thoughts on Greene and barlow?

    THE SALTSHAKER · 11/04/2016 at 20:09

    Also Robbie Gray been stealing his clearances a bit, so might be a contributing factor??

    Jimi · 11/04/2016 at 22:29

    Ride it out, wait for better options to emerge. No point wasting trades just to tread water.

Paulie Walnuts · 11/04/2016 at 19:11

I noticed that most of the teams in the top 10 have S.Mitchell and J.Gibson in them

    DadSmasher · 11/04/2016 at 19:49

    I reckon that a few have probably got G.Ablett, P.Dangerfield, S.Kerridge and JJ too.

MAC IS BACK · 11/04/2016 at 19:22

my team at the moment
houli, adams, laird, shaw, wietering, dea
danger, selwood, liba, b smith, m crouch, parish, barlow, rich
blicavs, gawn
hall, wells, martin, b kennedy, kerridge, greene

and got $160 000 remaining

    Ethan017 · 11/04/2016 at 19:30

    I would be extremely concerned if I was you because of the fact you only have one ultra premium midfielder
    Need to upgrade Brodie Smith, Barlow and Rich
    At the moment you need to downgrade Rich to someone like Zarahakis then upgrade Selwood and Barlow to and ultra premos

THE SALTSHAKER · 11/04/2016 at 19:47

For those ditching Greene i think youre crazy? Rnd 1 played fwd hardly got into the game GWS lost. Rnd 2 GWS started slow Greene switched to guts immediate CP + CL impact had it 34 times, bought Griffen + Shiele into game Coniglio tagged Danger and both their close in worked stopped Geelongs run. Rnd 3 played as HFF again. Had it 22 times, but butchered it a bit, but still showing he can find the ball. Clearly HFF is playing him out of position, he isnt a Stevie J or Devon Smith, he's a mid/clearance player and when allowed off his leash he goes bang! Surely these coaches Lyon, Buckley and Cameron stop this experiment of playing proven mids in new positions to try be more attacking? Mundys inj yet wont play Barlow in guts, Bucks has his Rolls Royce floating HBF a role Oxley has proven himself more than capable of and get him in there supporting his young star recruits in treloar + adams. Cameron and staff when reviewing the diff in games this year can see where Toby needs to play if i bloody well can. Hold its only rnd 3

    Jimi · 11/04/2016 at 22:32

    You hit the nail on the head, it's all in the hands of the coaches, it's not totally Greene's fault his scores are so inconsistent. Problem is SC doesn't give sympathy points because a player isn't in their most productive position and point generation is the name of the game.

votes · 11/04/2016 at 19:52

should I go Sherridan to Weitering? Think that Weiters has the potential to average more and will net me 70 k, thoughts?

    SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 20:11

    I'm not overly enthusiastic about that trade as you already missed a decent chunk of the cash that Weita is going to make.

    But he's now had two fairly impressive scores in the first 3 weeks so I can definitely understand the temptation. If you've really lost faith in Sheridan then you may be best served from a cash generation sense going down to a Hartley or Ruggles instead. Then using the savings to upgrade another failed midpricer like say a Brad Crouch to a proper premo i.e. paint the fence.

    Otherwise you may as well persist with Sheridan a little longer as his average of 76 is respectable albeit a tad disappointing so far.

      Dee · 11/04/2016 at 20:48

      I'd HOLD Sheridan…. I have him as well.

        Jimi · 11/04/2016 at 22:35

        Agree and same. Been scoring ok all things considered (Freo getting belted, injury interrupted game in rd2). I have a feeling a good run of scores is not far away for him.

Doc · 11/04/2016 at 19:54

Need help.

Keen to get Zorko in.

Rockliff to Zorko. + 150k in bank
Or
Crouch and Rampe to Zorko + Rookie (would have 330 to spend on any line).

    Iamme · 11/04/2016 at 20:30

    Option 2…Don't get rid of a Premo… Rocky is capable of super premo scores and should only hopefully miss one more.

MAC IS BACK · 11/04/2016 at 19:59

is there any changes people would do, or anyone that i should have on my watch list or pick up now

Vindude · 11/04/2016 at 20:10

B Crouch out for 3 weeks – thoughts on a replacement community ? M Wright (carlton) ?

    Ethan017 · 11/04/2016 at 20:21

    I'm more going the way of Darcy Parish don't really think Matt Wright can keep it up

Tom · 11/04/2016 at 20:22

Crouch to RGray and no money.

OR

Crouch to Zaharakis with 150k in the bank for future upgrades?

    SCaddict · 11/04/2016 at 20:31

    I'd get Gray in as he's a superstar of the competition and an obvious top 8 mid keeper.

    Zaka is still reasonable value but he was definitely a better trade in last week when he was $54K cheaper.

      Tom · 11/04/2016 at 20:35

      Yeah get your point. Just hard to part with the 300k needed to get Gray haha

        Cashcows · 11/04/2016 at 21:07

        Gray is worth it. Zaka might fall off during the season.

        MaccasMarvels · 11/04/2016 at 21:17

        Yes it will be hard parting with all that cash but you will really enjoy watching Port games and ALL the things Gray does!!!! Accumulates pozzies, clearances, side steps, goals…. the list goes on.

Jonty · 11/04/2016 at 20:40

Was planning on trading Duncan for R. Gray, but duncan scored 120 this week. Should I still complete this trade?
also, is it worth trading out Jacobs for Goldstein?

    Davonaise · 11/04/2016 at 20:52

    No way mate stick with him Geelongs draw is soft next 3 Essendon, Port and Gold Coast

    Also round 9 Collingwood 10 Carlton 14 StKilda 20 Essendon 21 Richmond 22 Brisbane 23 Melbourne.

    Could argue Freo being soft team this year too

Davonaise · 11/04/2016 at 20:45

Rocky Rich out

Big mistake starting these 2 and will never again start with them in my side

Duncan Rance in

I have Danger Selwood & Duncan now in the guts but not so crazy I think cause Geelongs draw is soft
And a trio of mids has worked before in SC (Collingwood's trio)

I am doing this because I am desperate to make up points

    The Mountain · 12/04/2016 at 00:24

    Mate its the start of the season and chasing points is not the way to go. There are better long term options, Duncan won't be a top ten mid by the end of the year so if you can afford go a gray/priddis type and as for rance even though he is a great player i feel that houli or laird are better long term if you dont have them already

      Davonaise · 12/04/2016 at 10:09

      Ty was a crazy thought lol hey

        The Mountain · 12/04/2016 at 10:45

        Can get the better of most mate

Dee · 11/04/2016 at 20:52

R. Gray in for me this week….. #GUN

    SC16 · 11/04/2016 at 21:25

    YES! Reckon brownlows gonna be a fight between danger and Gray (and gaz if he holds up for the whole season)

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/04/2016 at 22:44

    Yep should have started him but can right that wrong this week and trade him in for rocky.

    Jonathan Camac · 12/04/2016 at 11:09

    He's going HUGE! Scored a whopping 120 odd in a game where Port couldn't get their hands on the ball (showdown). Doesn't matter how the team goes – R.Gray will score.

Paulie Walnuts · 11/04/2016 at 21:20

This week I posted a conservative 2317 this week,after a R1 of 2200,R2 of 2250 :

I'm going to start trading up early than i normally do, I'm not going to wait on some small increases as I see it most of the rookies will peak together;

Out – Lonergan
In – Smith
Out – Mills
In – Parker

    Jonathan Camac · 12/04/2016 at 11:09

    Looks nice mate, decent trades there 🙂

Mattt · 11/04/2016 at 21:25

Contemplating trading out Jesse Lonergan for Weitering, not sure if it's worth it though. I know Weits has already risen 63k but pretty sure he will average far more than Lonergan (don't know why I went with him in the first place). Talk me into or out of it hahaha thoughts welcomed!

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 22:07

    See how he goes next week vs Brisbane?

    Weitering boat would've well and truly sailed by then though.

      Mattt · 11/04/2016 at 22:26

      Either into weitering now or Hartley next week if not happy Lonergan I guess

    Leeds17 · 12/04/2016 at 06:26

    I wouldn't sideways Lonergan, either up or down if you are going to trade him, he's actually made you 15k, it's a worry that he ran with Cripps in the second half but he has a decent scoring potential might just be worth riding out for another couple weeks.

Doc · 11/04/2016 at 21:33

Ben Reid v ruggles/Hartley + 190k

    Doc · 11/04/2016 at 21:33

    Or another option?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 22:05

    Like the Hartley trade better. Reid isn't a keeper so may as well go for cash gen.

King of harts · 11/04/2016 at 21:33

Need Mckenzie gone
Have 219k in the bank but considering a sideways to weitering thoughts??? Feel he could become 500k def

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 22:04

    It's a tough call but I'd probably go for it. He will get to 400/450k I reckon and if you're happy with that as your D6 then do it.

Luke · 11/04/2016 at 21:34

Rich to Houli, Barlow to Zorko. Good trades? I think I will feel better without these 2 in my team.

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 22:01

    Yeah good trades I'd keep Barlow for another week but he will go down and Zorko might go up so the warchest may not have enough in it.

Michael · 11/04/2016 at 21:49

community, ive only got 5k in the bank and im looking to get rid of mckenzie and greene, any ideas and i already have ruggles, so any other downgrade options for mckenzie? and whose the best options to upgrade from greene. thx comminity

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 22:00

    McKenzie for Hartley?

    Greene for Zorko?

      Jimi · 11/04/2016 at 22:41

      I can't believe this question is being asked by so many people. Hartley is far and away the most obvious rookie downgrade option for this round.

      Do you even SC Gold bro?

Tim · 11/04/2016 at 21:50

should i upgrade de goey to zac merret and scott p to garry ablett
or just de goey to zorko
or just patty cripps to garry ablett?

    The Mountain · 12/04/2016 at 00:20

    De Goey is the only one I would even consider trading, however I wouldn't after the 89 he scored. You would have to be nuts to trade pendles or cripps, you started wit them for a reason and there is no point trading them at all unless injured, let alone after 3 games

Nicholas · 11/04/2016 at 21:54

Rich to hartley/ruggles then crouch to parker/ zorko? Thoughts, i was going to keep rich however i want to upgrade coruch instead of downgrade because mills isnt reliable onfield

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 21:59

    Sounds good and I'd go with Hartley as long as he's named this week. Probably take Parker over Zorko right now hard to ignore his form.

Tulendeena · 11/04/2016 at 22:06

The question of the week is:

Ruggles or Hartley?

    Southern S · 11/04/2016 at 22:14

    Easy – Hartley

    Can check if he is named in starting squad on Thursday for his third match.

    Ruggles could be dropped this week or next week resulting in a large burn.

    Mister_Spock · 11/04/2016 at 22:53

    Hartley.

    If you have the option, always go for the rookie on the bubble and wait for a second look at Ruggles before his price rise (they did play Brisbane after all).

    Look to bring in Ruggles next week if it works out and he continues to be named.

    JS for both is shaky, but would think that Hartley will play more games

jimmy · 11/04/2016 at 22:17

hello community i am heavily considering orazio fantasia he is averaging 89 and has a very small BE of -11 finished last year very strong and playing for the bombers his job security seems strong

thoughts community

    Jimi · 11/04/2016 at 22:46

    Good POD, good JS and will make some $$$ but like many of the young bombers players I don't think he'll hold his current average (89) as the season goes on. That means you'll probably need to consider trading him out again at some point, which to me seems counter-productive. Just my opinion though!

Jordan · 11/04/2016 at 22:53

Should I start Hartley or ruggles(scoring a solid 77 last week) on my field

    TeenWolfFyfe · 13/04/2016 at 10:06

    I'd say Ruggles mate

Jaiden · 11/04/2016 at 22:56

Should I trade M brown to weitering or is ruggles/Hartley safe to start on the field

    Holty · 12/04/2016 at 08:15

    i think its a bit late now on Weitering unless u think he is a keeper? I think most have a few rookies sitting on field in the backline so shouldnt be a worry. The tough thing is picking the right one to start onfield.

Mister_Spock · 11/04/2016 at 23:02

Hmm.

Originally looking at bringing in R Gray for McKenzie (via DPP), but now considering Zorko given his BE (60), so price will rise greater than Robbie. Ultimately want both in my team prior to the bye rounds, and reckon both are top 6-7 players at the Mid and Fwd line respectively.

Thoughts? Who would you choose?

    Holty · 12/04/2016 at 08:18

    i have gone Gray this week over Zorko as i feel there are far better forward rookies to put onfield over the mids. Thats the only reason ive filled my midfield before anything else. hope this helps

      Mister_Spock · 12/04/2016 at 09:54

      Thanks Holty, yeah had the same reasoning originally, but now thinking I can bring Zorko into the mids and then swap to FWD line when one of the rookie cash cows is fat enough to upgrade to Gray…

        BanthaFodder71 · 12/04/2016 at 12:57

        I brought Zorko into MIDS this week on the bubble. Helps with DPP's in the Fwds.

        He can stay a mid until I SLAUGHTER a couple of ca$h cow$ and upgrade

Damon Bisetto · 11/04/2016 at 23:16

should i hold jacobs or trade him out for goldmember

    TeenWolfFyfe · 13/04/2016 at 10:07

    hold Jacobs for 1 more week and see if he comes good, if not trade him next week.

First timer · 12/04/2016 at 07:50

Hey community,

How in the buggary do I reverse trades on my iPhone, it's driving me nuts!! Need help

    Helper · 12/04/2016 at 08:11

    Click on the little funnel icon in bottom right hand corner.

Mark · 12/04/2016 at 08:05

With crouch out I could go a straight swap to JJ with 150k the bank but I'm not so sure now after Iv seen bob go down and I think coaches will direct some attention towards him. Or any other player under 460k

I could go crouch to a rookie and upgrade Barlow to anyone. Thoughts on the best player to get right now already have Fyfe danger abblet

    Kev · 12/04/2016 at 09:01

    Priddis, Selwood, Smitch, Hall, Zorko. Jump on the stats page and have an look at averages so far

    Phil · 12/04/2016 at 14:59

    I reckon there are only 2 players under 460k worth getting (as a premium obviously) and they are JJ or Brodie Smith. If you look at Adelaides draw, if Smith can average 90 odd in the first 7 games I can see him coming home with around 100 from then on. JJ is the opposite in that he has an easy first 7 games all at Etihad. If he can't average 100, he will struggle to average 90 from then on I think.
    It's a close one I like Smith because more of a pod, DPP and proven premium. I like JJ's bye round more though.

50_Shades · 12/04/2016 at 08:45

It's time to repent my sins and bring in the bald Jesus. Need to trade a rookie, I'd rather keep em all…. out of mills, Hewett, menadue or mbrown?

    Chill · 12/04/2016 at 10:52

    Wait to see the team lists.

Paulie Walmuts · 12/04/2016 at 08:51

Hewitt – he will more thank likely get dropped this week anyway

Slumdog · 12/04/2016 at 09:02

I selected O. McDonald, Melbourne defender for his first game but he suffered an ankle injury and scored poorly. Did he play last week in the VFL and if so, how did he go? Will he be back in the senior team soon. I would expect so after Melbourne's good effort last weekend.
Community, what you do? Hold or trade for Hartley?

Slumdog · 12/04/2016 at 09:04

My bad. Regarding O. McDonald. I meant to type ' I would NOT expect so'

Josh · 12/04/2016 at 09:25

Hey all, any idea on wether rich and crouch are set to return? Having both really hurt last week with hewetts 19 my emergency and losing my league game by 13.. At the moment I plan to hold both and trade my worste rookie for danger. However i could trade one of the mid pricers for danger keep the kitty healthy and rookie may yet still make money, all thoughts on this appreciated

Going danger, who doesn't look like slowing, As pridis gets the v this week and if he spuds it then danger against Essendon would surely safety wear the c to a good 250+ As Fyfe would wear the same tag that kept jones to 18 touches in a big game

    Holty · 12/04/2016 at 09:30

    Crouch out for a few weeks. Rich should return this week

Mick · 12/04/2016 at 09:37

How do you guys reckon the Doggies will step up in the absence of Bob Murphy? Will Boyd lift, worth getting into my team therefore? Easton Wood almost due to come back in? Cheers guys.

Slumdog · 12/04/2016 at 09:45

I selected O. McDonald,Melbourne defender for his first game but he suffered an ankle injury and scored poorly. Did he play last week in the VFL and if so,how did he go? Will he be back in the senior team soon. I would not expect so after Melbourne's good effort last weekend.

Davonaise · 12/04/2016 at 10:13

Please tell me people…are these trades good?

Out of the 3 players I have giving me trouble Rockliff, Rich and B.Crouch
I Have I made the right decision to keep Rockliff and trade Rich to Hartley and B.Crouch to R.Gray

Left with 55k too thoughts?

    Abel · 12/04/2016 at 15:36

    great trades

JamiesNinjas13 · 12/04/2016 at 10:16

Mckenzie – 2 weeks/turd
Crouch – 4 weeks/turd
Sheridan – Semi turd
I know its a long year but every year I get sucked into mid prices and every year i never learn and pay for my mistakes.

    Davonaise · 12/04/2016 at 10:21

    Think B.Crouch has hurt many though
    Coaches who chose his brother though did well with that decision

    I am just impressed with Wayno's hot tip Eddie Betts – has started red hot yet again and resin is not so much his goal scoring but also score involvements too Sydney will test him though Like Hawthorn does too but not many sides other than that can keep this guy qiuet.

    Phil · 12/04/2016 at 14:38

    I know your pain my man:
    Leuy, Sheridan, Lonergan & Crouch =my 4 biggest mistakes, apart from that my team is very solid. I figured out of those players, 2 out of 4 would be good and i could just upgrade/downgrade the 2 bad ones pre round 3 to a missed rookie and missed premium, never again.

MY TWO CENTS · 12/04/2016 at 10:36

Terrible news about my boy capt Bob I fear this could be it. 🙁

Unfortunately need to trade him now. Thinking DPP with tugga in the fwd line and straight swap for lynch?

Why has no one mentioned Lynch? Ave over 110 has kicked 4 a week gets around the ground (had over 20 possessions last week) takes a contested grab, has ablett and hall delivering it too him on a platter, Martin at his feet to shoot off a handball to him??

Can't see a reason not too take him and has lions this week thinking of plonking the VC on him as he may well tear them to shreds like Kennedy did Rd 1.

    Holty · 12/04/2016 at 11:27

    its a great pod. i think noone is mentioning him because the rookie forwards are doing well and the only forward trade anyone has done so far is Barlow and people prefer to bring in a midfielder as he is dpp.
    Only question mark i have on him is how will he score when Gold Coast gets pumped? Or when they play a good defense? They havent played anyone good yet. Best side has been Freo and they had a undersized Dawson on him.

Mika · 12/04/2016 at 10:59

Hey community, looking to save trades as much as I can this year, as we all are! Just wanting to know if there is any trades I must make before round 4, I have 20k in the bank.

DEF: houli,laird,Birchall,weitering,dea,adams(tipa,Hartley)
MID:Fyfe,danger,pendles,priddis,Rockliff,libba,mills,kennedy(Dunkley,Gresham,davis)
RUCK:godly,Nic Nat (loerch)
FORW:Barlow,hall,Greene,wells,kerridge,McCarthy(menadue,papley)

    Grahame Lebroy · 12/04/2016 at 11:40

    I would hold off trading this week Mika

    derek · 12/04/2016 at 13:56

    your team is nice. Just hold and wait for the cows to fatten up

Bludger · 12/04/2016 at 11:12

Hi Community,
Worried about M Browns cash generation potential as he's stuck down in the forward line, especially with Grima adding to the KPD stocks at the Dons. I can see him only increasing another 100k, about the same as JJ. I have the cash to do the upgrade, is it worth it for the extra points?

Cam_H · 12/04/2016 at 11:27

Mikka,
I am dead reluctant to advise others to 'do this' and 'don't do that' when it comes to this gig, but one option that I'd at least consider if you think that Zorko could be a keeper forward and Greene is not; Greene + Mills to Zorko and Ruggles using McDonald-Tipungwuti as your swing.
Best of luck.

    Southern S · 12/04/2016 at 12:01

    Ruggles is a one gamer and Mills has a BE of only 19.

      Cam_H · 12/04/2016 at 15:37

      Southern S,
      You're right, but if (big if) you are to believe the projections as a guide, 'Greene + Mills' will lose you $15,000 while 'Zorko + Ruggles' will gain you $25,000, while 'Greene + Mills' will net you 133 points compared to 'Zorko + Ruggles' scoring 194 points.
      I'm the first to acknowledge that SC Gold projections are little better than a craps shoot, but nonetheless in light of the above, and the prospect of trading in a keeper (assuming Zorko is a keeper and Greene isn't) then I think it's worth a consideration.
      Like others have replied, 'no trade' isn't a bad move too.

        Cam_H · 12/04/2016 at 15:40

        Apologies – " 'Greene + Mills' will lose you $15,000 " should be "gain you"! Where's the damned 'Edit' button???

Mike · 12/04/2016 at 11:30

Didn't play, length on sidelines is still TBC.

    Slumdog · 12/04/2016 at 14:50

    Thanks Mike. That worrying news.

      deman · 12/04/2016 at 17:17

      Not sure what game mike was watching but he definitely played this week slumdog!!

Grahame Lebroy · 12/04/2016 at 11:38

As soon as a better option presents I am changing him. Even if he only has increased 100k. But I would hold off a week and re assess

Lesley · 12/04/2016 at 11:48

Straight swap from rocky to Zorko? Thoughts

    Grahame Lebroy · 12/04/2016 at 12:09

    If Rocky is only out for 1 more week I would hold onto him

    Southern S · 12/04/2016 at 12:09

    Don't like it, rocky due back in a week and you've already held him for one.

northernsoul74 · 12/04/2016 at 12:13

I assume you mean M Boyd. I'm a big doggies fan and its looking like time is starting to catch up with him sadly. Lots of fans think he should should be dropped although unlikely with Bobs injury. Adcock could become relevant if named.

    Mick · 12/04/2016 at 12:56

    Yeah sorry I forget there's the two Boyds now. Yeah I meant Matty. I had M Boyd on my watchlist after a reasonable 2015, but just thought perhaps with Bob out, he might step up or something.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 12/04/2016 at 14:15

    I agree with northern. Have watched the last two doggies closely on the box and it appears Boyd is good for a half. In both games I saw him play he was close to the highest SC player at half time. But after that he just disappears? I think he just runs out of puff. Posted two mid 70's last two rounds after being on 50 at half time. Took a bit of a gamble on him as a pod but can't see him keeping up the pace in the second half. IMHO Father time has caught up with him and I may need to do a corrective trade this week as I think he will continue to bleed cash. Be good for 80ish avg.

Liam · 12/04/2016 at 12:24

Who do i trade rocky to? got 591k to spend

    Southern S · 12/04/2016 at 12:35

    Trade him to Tom Rockliff of the Brisbane Lions.

    Northernsoul74 · 12/04/2016 at 14:57

    You already kept him a week, you may as well hold unless you've heard he's out for longer

    CJudd3Votes · 12/04/2016 at 15:00

    Ward?

    TeenWolfFyfe · 13/04/2016 at 10:13

    I'd say Luke parker he's poised to go massive this year, should be top 6 mids.

dan · 12/04/2016 at 12:32

help us out community was ranked 800 last week dont have goldy gawn or danger so dropped rank to around 2000 brad crouch is my only concern if hes out for a few weeks i want him gone with only 30 k in the bank ill only have 335k to trade with thinking an aaron young or darcy parish might be the only viable option at least they will still make cash dont want to make 2 trades at this point if i can help it htough open to options
was hoping my team was set for the next few weeks but theres always some tinkering to be done cheers.

Team:
jj, hurn, shaw, laird, weitering , dea …. hartly, brown

gray, ablett, hannebry, ward, liber, treloar, wells crouch …. menadue, mills, keays

nic nat, stefan martin

barlow hall, adams, kennedy, kerridge, mccarthy … tipa menhdaidhkfjfdwh papley

    Southern S · 12/04/2016 at 12:41

    Like the aaron young option nice POD.

    derek · 12/04/2016 at 13:52

    if you don't have any other worries, wait for the cows to increase some more and get someone better than Young in a few weeks

      Dan · 12/04/2016 at 15:06

      I'll get there faster by making the trade than sitting on a non scorer

    Hugh · 12/04/2016 at 13:57

    You could always go for those rookies kommer, full stop and punctuation????

Luke · 12/04/2016 at 12:35

iv got grant birchall avg 84 should i keep or trade and to who?

    Southern S · 12/04/2016 at 12:45

    He's scoring exactly as he should. May be due for a 100+ shortly though.

      Kev · 12/04/2016 at 12:52

      Hold. So much was said about unreliable defenders in the preseason, don't go chopping and changing and trying to get in the high scorers of the previous round

    Big G · 12/04/2016 at 15:10

    Even if he doesn't average big like the top premiums, he is consistent and should be a keeper. Could be a good D5/6 by year's end. Focus on upgrading your cheap options.

dan · 12/04/2016 at 12:41

personaly i wouldnt trade just yet, i think you could expect an average of about 90 with birchill over the season not terrible for a defender but then i dont know what your team looks like if you had no other issues and shitloads of money then i would probably upgrade also depends on if your interested in overall ranking or just league wins

BanthaFodder71 · 12/04/2016 at 12:48

Hi Community. Long Time First Time.

Thanks to everyone for the great insight into the game we all love.
It Doesn't go unappreciated.

After 2 trades this week my team stands as :

JJ, Adams, Laird, Shaw, Weitering, Dea (M. Brown, T Mckenzie)

Parker, Danger, GAJ, Zaharakis, Fyfe, Libba, M Crouch, Zorko (Mills, Davis , Hewett)

Gawn, Martin (M. Cox)

Hall, Wells, B. Kennedy, Kerridge, Tippa, McCarthy (Papley, Menadue)

Thoughts please?

    Kev · 12/04/2016 at 12:50

    What trades did you make?

      BanthaFodder71 · 12/04/2016 at 12:59

      Rocky/T Greene OUT
      Zaha/Zorko IN

      Both have big upsides with their teams usual mids missing

    Wombatsfc · 12/04/2016 at 13:28

    Looks better than my team. What's your rank?

Luke · 12/04/2016 at 13:00

M. Adams R. Laird H. Shaw

G. Birchall M. Dea A. McDonald-Tipungwuti

P. Dangerfield G. Ablett R. Gray
M. Priddis N. Fyfe T. Liberatore
S. Pendlebury C. Petracca (Captain loophole)

N. Naitanui M. Lobbe

A. Hall D. Wells B. Kennedy
S. Kerridge L. McCarthyC. Wingard

Bench
M. Brown T. Ruggles
C. MillsR. DavisJ. Gresham
S. Grimley
T. PapleyC. Menadue

got 79 k in the bank and need to get rid of lobbe

HELP

    Luke · 12/04/2016 at 13:04

    i was thinking birchall down to weitering and lobbe up to blicavs

    derek · 12/04/2016 at 13:17

    As a fellow Lobbe owner, i feel your pain, especially after only getting 60 against essendon!

    in his defence he hasn't been as bad as you think. On a $ spent basis, he compares ok.

    below is the "Price per three round average" for some of the rucks. The number is the average price per SC point scored. The lower the better

    Goldy $5,253
    Martin $5,565
    Jacobes $6,874
    Lobbe $5,806
    Gawn $4,801
    Sinclair $5,297

      derek · 12/04/2016 at 13:22

      My plan was to hold him until after round 7. Port had a nice run of games early, and then trade to goldy who has a beautiful run from round 8 onwards. Was hoping for a bit of a price rise from Lobbe and a bit of a fall from Goldy, not going exactly to plan thanks to Goldy kicking 5 goals on the weekend and Lobbe not being that good.

      Who did you want to get in?

    CapTnKaOs · 12/04/2016 at 13:34

    Dea down to Hartley. Generates 126k. + your 79k. = 205k.

    Lobbe out gives you 373k + 205k = 578k plus change to spend on a ruckman. I'd spend it on Gawn.
    Not sure I'd have the cohones to do it, but if you believe sauce jacobs will turn it around, he is starting to look good value too.

      CapTnKaOs · 12/04/2016 at 13:35

      Actually….. I like your idea better.

SC Shelia · 12/04/2016 at 13:20

Is the price change every 3 weeks for players who have played 3 games

WombatsFC · 12/04/2016 at 13:25

Prices change every week after a player has played 3 games

    SC Shelia · 12/04/2016 at 13:28

    Ok Cheers

Leanlover420 · 12/04/2016 at 13:45

So, what to do with Toby Greene? Who is the next best forward of any price, considering I already have barlow, hall, wells, kennedy, kerridge, papley and petracca?

    Phil · 12/04/2016 at 16:41

    Right now I'd say Zorko or Zac Merrett. In a couple of weeks though I reckon Wingard & Martin will be good picks

    Leanlover420 · 12/04/2016 at 16:46

    cheers men

Iamme · 12/04/2016 at 14:00

Zorko the magnificent

murray · 12/04/2016 at 14:17

Ablett or parker? Have trade + 378k to spend

    Tim · 12/04/2016 at 14:21

    ablett no doubt

      murray · 12/04/2016 at 15:49

      thanks tim, I think it will be ablett then

    Danners · 12/04/2016 at 14:43

    Ablett

    Phil · 12/04/2016 at 14:49

    Ablett is a must have, Parker is not. Any player who you could name captain or vice on any given week is a must have. Danger, Fyfe & Ablett fall into this category, Parker does not. Still a solid pick, just not a must have.

    Iamme · 12/04/2016 at 14:51

    Got to go with Gazza no question…still seen by many of us as #1 supercoach player.of all time

      murray · 12/04/2016 at 15:12

      thanks everyone, no doubt about it then

Nath · 12/04/2016 at 14:26

Although will interesting to see what happens with Hartley with Grima approaching fitness.

The_Black_Mamba · 12/04/2016 at 14:30

Greene, Rich and Z smith. Who do we back and who do we chop?

    Southern S · 12/04/2016 at 17:00

    1 being most urgent, 3 being least.

    1. Rich
    2. Greene
    3. Zac Smith.

Slumdog · 12/04/2016 at 14:48

Hi Loop. I have been trying to find out about McDonald but to no avail. He did OK in the NAB and Roos made mention of his ability and his deserved place in the team. Although Hartley will make money other defenders will pop up for example Ruggles last week for Geelong.
Did the ankle cause his poor score or was McDonald struggling anyway? I think I will leave McDonald as I have seven other defenders doing well and Roos will surely give him another go before the bye round.

    Loop · 12/04/2016 at 15:31

    Pretty sure that he rolled his ankle near the end of the game, he was clueless but it was his first game. I put him in because I noticed him in the NAB games. I looked up the VFL results but couldnt find anything either. In the past I've traded out injured or dropped rookies too quickly so I'm trying to be more patient this time.

Boltons Blues · 12/04/2016 at 14:49

B Crouch 🙁

need some help getting rid of him, 2-3 is to much for 300k on the pine

Shaw, JJ, Laird, Weitering, Dea, Adams (Brown, Ruggles)
Danger, Ablett, Gray, Fyfe, Libba, Shiel, Cripps, Mills (Davis, Crouch, Dunkley)
Goldy, Gawn (Grimley)
Hall, Wells, BenKen, Papley, Kerridge, Menadue (AMT, Cox)

My forward line is weak but all have had decent starts (apart from last week)

168k in the bank, can go Crouch >> Zaka but leaves me with only 5k left, can down grade someone to someone, but who?

Help please

    Dan · 12/04/2016 at 15:16

    Zaka just do it

    Northernsoul74 · 12/04/2016 at 15:41

    Do you see Zaka bring in your team at the end the year? If so, go got it, if not don't just bring someone because it's all you can afford. Wait and pounce on who you really want.

    Abel · 12/04/2016 at 15:42

    maybe trade crouch, menadue to mid and bring in a fwd?

Wombatsfc · 12/04/2016 at 15:17

Interesting stats analysis on rucks 2015 V 2016 http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-12/the-stats-f

Ethan017 · 12/04/2016 at 15:18

Darcy Parish or Clayton Oliver

    Mick · 12/04/2016 at 16:23

    Parish

    Oliver is a gun but I think when brayshaw comes back He will loose that midfield time. Plus parish doesn't have much competition for a spot in the guts

Steve · 12/04/2016 at 15:27

Should I trade in Abblet or Goldy , happy to get either which do you feel is more valuable for the long term?

Cheers

    Holty · 12/04/2016 at 15:29

    who u have in the rucks?

    Paul · 12/04/2016 at 15:48

    Yeah, I reckon Goldstein now. Ablett hasn't really gone big yet, so might not fly up in value straight away. Goldstein looks like he might just start pumping out 150 a week again, like he did for most of last year.

      Kev · 12/04/2016 at 15:57

      Breakevens
      Goldy – 142
      Gaz – 123

        Southern S · 12/04/2016 at 17:03

        Goldy is 138
        Ablett's is 119

        ?

      Steve · 12/04/2016 at 15:58

      yes so true , Goldy might become Godly like.

        Foti186 · 12/04/2016 at 18:29

        Relax. For one season. Lol. Abletts been doing it for many.

Adam · 12/04/2016 at 15:32

Laird/Montagna or Houli/Zorko

    Crowmagnon · 12/04/2016 at 16:14

    2.

    The Mountain · 12/04/2016 at 16:17

    Laird and Zorko mate

    Holty · 12/04/2016 at 16:23

    agree with the others

Holty · 12/04/2016 at 15:38

who are you wanting to trade?

Holty · 12/04/2016 at 15:44

he has had 1 big score of 116 and a 50 and a 60. Im shocked but i think he is Sydneys#2 ruck. I thought he would be better then Tippett.

Paul · 12/04/2016 at 15:44

I think Goldstein has hit his straps, played against the best rucks in the game already, so has a soft draw from now on. Especially this week now that he doesn't have to face up to Sandilands. Going to have to get him in. I need to downgrade Crouch, make 101k and upgrade Kreuzer to Goldstein. Either that or I could downgrade Mills. Doesn't look like he's going to go much higher than 60-70 every week.

Steve · 12/04/2016 at 15:44

Sinclair BE is about the same as his average, 70

If I went Abblett I have the cash for one trade and go Rocky to Abblet.

If I go Sinclair to Goldy I will need two trades for the additional cash, haven't had a close look at who the second trade would be, maybe green (ddp) for Ruggles.

    Steve · 12/04/2016 at 15:45

    Or Munday to Abblet in one trade

      Holty · 12/04/2016 at 15:55

      I guess Abletts price is going up so now is the cheapest youll get him for a while anyway. Goldy will stay steady. You did start without Goldy for a reason and im assuming to wait for his price to drop? Stay the course now and wait and hope. If not, grab him near the byes.

Holty · 12/04/2016 at 16:13

After one massive score, everyone seems to be wanting to jump on Goldy. Ive started with him so not a big deal for me but to anyone who is thinking to trade him in, wait and think. We all knew he would be one of the best rucks so why didnt you start with him? You had your reasons and now you are wanting to burn trades. He will more than likely go down in value then go up at some point. Not saying Goldy isnt a must, but this is a $700k trade you are about to make and i assume most who didnt start with him was because he was $700k at the start of the season?
Stick to your structures and stay the course

Boltons Blues · 12/04/2016 at 16:16

or down for that matter

Paul · 12/04/2016 at 16:31

I didn't start with him because I thought he had a tough start to the season, playing against the best rucks in the first 4 weeks. Thought he'd dive down quite quickly with a few below average scores, but it's become apparent that he's not going to go down much more. He plays poorly and gets 90, plays well and gets 140 and plays a good game and gets 180.

Can only see 140+ for him this week against Freo's second ruck and then for the foreseeable future. He doesn't play against another formidable ruck duo until about round 16 when they play West Coast.

    50_Shades · 12/04/2016 at 17:46

    I went Nic Nat and Gawn, but right now don't see any need to trade either regardless of what Goldy is doing. They are both premiums in their own right and will be right up there at years end.

    Average Joe · 12/04/2016 at 18:41

    I don't really see the logic in your reasoning there…
    2015
    Round 1 vs Jacobs – 100
    Round 2 vs Martin – 154
    Round 19 vs Gawn – 155
    Round 21 vs Sandi – 116

    Besides it doesn't matter much who he plays, as he racks up a lot of his points from disposals and other things around the ground

Noigerbour · 12/04/2016 at 16:32

Has anybody seen ritchie

FootyFanatic · 12/04/2016 at 16:32

Parker vs Gray? Who would you choose and why. I already have Wines in my midfield if that changes anything

    SC16 · 12/04/2016 at 16:48

    ROBBIE GRAY SONN

    Chill · 12/04/2016 at 17:12

    Robbie G x 10000

    derek · 12/04/2016 at 17:13

    Robbie Gray is a gun.

    Parker is a very good player in a very good team. i swear everytime JPK gets his hands on the ball he handballs it to Parker.

      Paulie Walnuts · 12/04/2016 at 17:48

      Are you suggesting JPK before Parker or both eventually Derek ?

        derek · 12/04/2016 at 18:44

        i'm suggesting that Parker is playing in a good swans team, he does get alot of his own ball but he does seem to be the main beneficiary of JPK's slick handballs.

        Both are great picks, i just think Gray is a slightly better player than Parker. I also rate JPK better than both (just)

    FootyFanatic · 12/04/2016 at 17:55

    Thanks Guys, I was leaning towards Gray and it looks like I'll be choosing him

derek · 12/04/2016 at 16:35

this is why i didn't start with Goldy. there was too much uncertainty. This information has surprised me but it very relevent.

I also thought the getting rid of the sub vest was going to affect the ruckmen more than it has, maybe we havn't seen the effect yet

the one i didn't see coming was the deliberate out of bounds rule and how that would effect the number of stopages.

All uncertainly and why you don't go spending $700k on one player.

IHateGreene · 12/04/2016 at 16:44

Thoughts on trading out B Crouch to a rookie (not sure who yet, open to suggestions) and greene to zorko?

    Boltons Blues · 12/04/2016 at 17:03

    im holding Crouch and waiting to see which rookies will play in teh coming weeks, Keyes and Petracca are both tracking really well

    Southern S · 12/04/2016 at 17:06

    Bad time to buy a rookie.

    This is why a little in the warchest can be a blessing so you can go bang on a rookie or mid price mistake straight to a gun.

      derek · 12/04/2016 at 17:11

      i didn't start with Weitering. Thinking BCrouch to Weitering, maybe?

        50_Shades · 12/04/2016 at 17:43

        If you're trying to leave some cash for next week or another trade, maybe Hartley. First price change this week if he plays.

    dannyyboyy · 12/04/2016 at 18:15

    yeah 50 shades is right, im holding him because with a BE of 27 next time he plays he is gonna go up. ill cull some rookies in a few weeks and he is a really good way to get a gun midfield upgrade if he is still stinkin it up when he gets back.

FootyFanatic · 12/04/2016 at 17:00

Interesting stat for those Ollie Wines owners, he is currentally leading the comp for clangers averaging 6.7 per game. That is an average of 26.8 points per round that is deducted from his score just by clangers, add this back on and he averages 119.8

    SCaddict · 12/04/2016 at 17:32

    Yes just have a look at Mad Mick's twitter feed. He's had a gutful of Ollie's clanger count and he can't believe he was sucked into picking him.

    Foti186 · 12/04/2016 at 18:27

    I've given that pretty boy 3 strikes he's got 2 left and he's gone.

Phil · 12/04/2016 at 17:24

Who in for Crouch:
JJ, B.Smith or Z.Merrett?

    SCaddict · 12/04/2016 at 17:48

    I'll probably be going JJ myself although also like the Zerrett option too.

    Mitch Duncan is another that should be considered as well, especially with the Dons up this week, the Cats soft draw in general and his prolific output early this season … other than the Mummy Express incident of course. 🙂

Paul96 · 12/04/2016 at 17:57

Hey guys, doing my first year of Supercoach and have a couple of dilemmas and wouldnt mind a second opinion!

Ive started pretty well, but in terms of trades I guess thats where Im falling down.

My team so far is
B: Shaw, Laird, JJ, Weitering, Dea, Adams (Tip, M Brown)
M: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Shiel, Gaff, Libba, Parish, Mills (Davis, Hewett, Menadue)
F: Hall, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Ben Ken, Kerridge (Papley McCarthy)

Ive got 28 trades left – went with Jock and started with Simpkin who I traded to Papley. Burnt the other trade on Gresham to Parish.

I think Ill keep Greene just because his BE of 81 is achievable but Im not sold on whether he can keep consistent form. I can afford to upgrade Barlow to Zorko and I think thats the right decision given their form vs BE.

Im kicking myself for picking Gaff, his BE of 147 looks untouchable and Im wondering if its even worth doing a sideways trade from Gaff to Parker/Zaharakis

Any help would be much appreciated! 🙂

    SC16 · 12/04/2016 at 18:13

    gaffs scored 106 84 85, if you picked him to be a keeper and top 10 mid you should probably hold, otherwise i do think gaff-parker as parker without a doubt will be a top 10 midSC

      Paul96 · 12/04/2016 at 18:36

      Sweet thanks,

      Thoughts on the barlow trade and holding Greene?

    derek · 12/04/2016 at 18:38

    good looking team, no obvious problems.
    try not to make sideways trades. from now on the best idea is to paint the fence. Either trade in a bubble-boy rookie or trade in a Keeper.
    I agree that Zorko should be in your team, but your best bet now is to wait a few weeks for your rookies to fatten up and then cull two of them for another rookie and a keeper. Look for "fallen premium' players, don't go and pay $600k for Zorko, get Dusty for $500k! you can get Zorko later when his price drops. the idea is to pay less for your keepers than their starting price, giving yourself an advantage over those who did start with them, not pay overs.
    Same with Parker, you will be paying more than those who started with him, don't chace the points, look for someone who is cheaper, ie Pendles, JPK.

James · 12/04/2016 at 18:19

Was hoping to do Greene to Zorko and Rocky to Ablett but I don't have the cash. Need to get Greene out, what do I do with Rocky? Hold and wait for a downgrade to get Ablett or use $575,500 and not waste him on the bench?

Cheers community

Mighty_Hondo · 12/04/2016 at 18:29

Hi community, Rocky probably coming back next week. He's set to go down by about $40k on price. Is it worth trading him to R Gray or Parker? I figure his first week back or so they make take it easy on h with the calf and his price will drop even more.

Would love ur views whether to save the trade and pick up Parker and Gray later. I Spode Gray will not rise in price too much compared to rookies, but Parker increasing about $40k this week. Cheers

ian · 12/04/2016 at 18:46

B: Houli, Laird, Sheridan, Weitering, Dea, Adams (AMT, Cutler)
M: Dangerfield, Ablett, Priddis, Gray, Shiel, Adams, BenKen, Parish (Davis, Hewett, Gresham)
R: Nic Nat, Gawn (lorensch)
F: Barlow, Hall, De goey, Wells, Kerridge, McCarthy (Menadue, Papley)

Score very well last week but still have a couple of concerns with Cutler, De Goey, Gresham, Barlow

Have $143,600 left in the kitty and not sure who i should offload first and who to

Thoughts would be very much appreciated

Jakob · 12/04/2016 at 18:48

Who should I start on the field this week, Papley or McCarthy?

    Phil · 12/04/2016 at 20:19

    McCarthy, I'd always pick whoever has the weaker opposition with these 2

Gobbledoks Pride · 12/04/2016 at 19:05

Unfortunately for me I went Lobbe as my number #2 ruck this year, thought even though his preseason was crap he would come good and average a nice 90-100 like he has in the past but not to be. I can't even side ways trade to Leauburger as he has stunk it up too. He's gotta go!!!!!!!

TRIGGER HAPPY · 13/04/2016 at 23:13

Interesting fact.

Petrecca is in almost 30% of teams and yet to play a game of AFL!

That means he in more teams than goldy, nic nat, gawn, JJ, parker and pendles.

I assume he is being used as a loop. Just thought you may enjoy that fun fact.

NO pressure Christian!

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