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The Rookie Scout: Round 3

Published by Barron Von Crow on

Barron Von Crow

“Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions!”

Rowdy Roddy Piper

 They were the immortal words spoken by Roddy Piper and never have they been truer than in Round 2 of Supercoach, a week which has left many of us with feelings of dismay, confusion and self-pity as we watched guys who blew the doors away in Round 1 score like rookies. Guys we’d written off jump back into our calculations. Injuries striking and all sorts of other types of fantasy football related mayhem.

But I’m telling you all right now to snap outta your funk, because as much trouble as your Michael Barlows, your Tom Rockliffs and your Daniel Richs (good lord, I just had a Gary Ayers press conference flashback) are causing you, there is one thing that cannot be denied which is we have got a pretty darn good crop of young rookies on our side this year who just may become the saving grace of our Supercoach teams.

Round 2 was another great week for a lot of our rookie picks, but now comes one of the most critical times of the year. Week 3 is when these rookies will start to fatten up, so we need to select the best blokes who are going to both score well and make us plenty of cash over the next 10 or so weeks. And that’s what I’m going to try and help you with here today.

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MIDFIELDERS 

Callum Mills

SC Price: $211,800 | AF Price: $250,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,100
Round 2 Stats: 19 disposals, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 2 clearances, 4 intercept possessions, 68 SCPoints, 69 AFPoints, 70 CKPoints

Another week, another solid score for Mills with 68 SCPoints, but that’s a score that’s probably a good 10-15 points below what we’d really want from him. The number of uncontested ball likely remains his biggest obstacle to pushing up his points, but when you’re hanging around half back you probably aren’t as likely to be in the trenches where the hard ball is won. His Supercoach BE is still -15, so there’s plenty of cash left to be generated in him, and remember, because we paid slightly more for him to start his initial BE is likely to be a bit lower than those guys who cost us between $105-125K. Keep him in your team and keep plugging him in at M7-M8.

Clayton Oliver

SC Price: $207,300 | AF Price: $251,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,000
Round 2 Stats: 14 disposals, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 60 SCPoints, 49 AFPoints, 60 CKPoints

It was a bit of a disappointing return for Clayton, after a great Round 1 in which he received the Rising Star nomination and did some tremendous clearance work in the midfield. Oliver recorded 7 clearances in Round 1, but 0 in Round 2, as his work in the middle of the ground was changed up a bit last week, with Oliver spending more time on the wings. This could have been because Angus Brayshaw was recalled who spent a bit of time in the middle, or it could just be Paul Roos exposing Oliver to different parts of the ground. Either way, if you have him, you’ll have to keep him, like Mills his BE is still very reasonable at -14, which means there’s still plenty of use in him yet.

George Hewett

SC Price: $123,900 | AF Price: $198,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,400
Round 2 Stats: 15 disposals, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 5 clangers, 48 SCPoints, 68 AFPoints, 61 CKPoints

Ahh, the life of rookies in Supercoach, who one week score in the 90’s, then score almost half as many points with the same sort of stat line. But stats can sometimes be deceiving on the surface, while he had 15 disposals and a goal in each game, it was the around the ground stuff that dried up for Hewett in Round 2, with marks and tackles each down from 7 to 3 and a clanger count that rose from 1 to 5.  His disposal efficiency being in the 60% range again would be a concern for me, but he has shown there’s still scope for improvement in his game and can score well if needed.

Ryan Davis

SC Price: $102,400 | AF Price: $166,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,000
Round 2 Stats: 8 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 2 goals, 63 SCPoints, 48 AFPoints, 103 CK Points

A lower possession count for Davis for Round 2, but he made an impact in front of the big sticks, unlike in Round 1 where he missed his shots. I’d say at best most people aren’t starting Davis and at worse have him as their emergency, so with a BE sitting at -60 this week and a projected price rise of $53K on the cards, leaving him sitting on your bench just to raise some money seems like the best move and hopefully you don’t have to use him until it’s time to cull.

Darcy Parish

SC Price: $202,800 | AF Price: $319,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,200
Featured CoachKings Contest: Friday, Essendon VS Port Adelaide
Round 2 Stats: 21 disposals, 3 marks, 8 tackles, 5 inside 50’s, 1 goal, 97 SCPoints, 102 AFPoints, 98 CKPoints

Darcy Parish was the Round 2 Rising Star nominee and with good reason, producing an absolute ripper of a game in Essendons win against Melbourne. His around the ground work was fantastic with the 8 tackles and again ranked in the top 3 for pressure acts for the Bombers, while his ball use improved from 64% disposal efficiency in Round 1 to 88% in Round 2. His heat maps show he again got plenty of action in the middle and down across half back too. If you’re really set on trading Rockliff out and prefer a downgrade to a sideways trade, then Parish could be a very interesting pick. Make sure you pick him this Friday night for CoachKings too!

Jade Gresham

SC Price: $144,300 | AF Price: $210,000 | CoachKings Price: $3,600
Round 2 Stats: 13 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 37 SCPoints, 50 AFPoints, 18 CKPoints

Gresham appears to be spending more time forward of the centre square, which hasn’t been the most profitable area of the ground for the Saints with only 33% of their possessions occurring in their forward half in Round 2, down from 37% in Round 1 (which isn’t that high either!). If I’m being blunt, Gresham has been a disappointment for us with two scores below 50 SCPoints. I think a lot of us picked him because he was cheaper than Parish/Oliver/Mills and had decent JS, but his scores just haven’t been there. At his current pace he’s only projected to reach around the $200-$210K range. That simply won’t cut it as a rookie cash cow option. So what do we do with him? There are a few options, if you can’t afford the straight upgrade to Parish/Kennedy/Oliver etc, then you could look at a cheaper option in George Hewett and bank the extra $20K. You could also swap a Menadue into your midfield and then bring in Tom Papley if you don’t have him, or if you’re downgrading an injured Rockliff/out of form Barlow then just use the money you gain from that to upgrade him. I have him and will be giving strong consideration to moving him on this week, though I think most will have bigger problems to deal with this week. Of course, you can always hold onto him and hope he turns it around, rookies can be unpredictable like that.

CoachKings action from Doyles Bridge Hotel in Mordialloc last weekend:

FORWARDS

Connor Menadue

SC Price: $155,400 | AF Price: $187,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,700
Round 2 Stats: 17 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 3 inside 50’s, 2 rebound 50’s, 17 pressure acts, 63 SCPoints, 67 AFPoints, 60 CKPoints

Menadue was 2nd for the Tigers for pressure acts applied against the Pies as he continued his high amount of work around the wing from the back to forward half of the ground and I reckon we can continue to pencil in scores between 60 and 80 SCPoints. On the whole the Tigers were a bit sloppy last Friday, so it’s probably a bit understandable his SC scores were down on Round 1. His BE is sitting at -52 and I reckon you can feel pretty confident about starting him if you have to.

Sam Kerridge

SC Price: $137,600 | AF Price: $341,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,700
Round 2 Stats: 22 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances, 2 goals, 18 pressure acts, 106 SCPoints, 91 AFPoints, 111 CKPoints

There wasn’t really any time for Kerridge in the middle this week, with the Kedge gaining the majority of his possessions on the wing, but it didn’t really matter as he still racked up a good score in Supercoach. That’s a definite credit to Kerridge and his “jack of all trades” football ability and it also lends a sense of security to us in the fantasy football community because it likely means we don’t have to worry about him getting tons of time on ball to be useful. Keep starting him every week and at this rate he could perhaps even turn into a potential keeper in the forward line.

Ben Kennedy

SC Price: $187,800 | AF Price: $269,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,800
Round 2 Stats: 21 disposals, 3 tackles, 3 clearances, 3 inside 50’s, 3 goals, 21 pressure acts, 105 SCPoints, 90 AFPoints, 140 CKPoints

Another one like Sam Kerridge who is perhaps looking like a season long keeper if he can continue his current scoring pace, Kennedy had another great game and like Kerridge he’s another one who seems to do a bit of everything out there. He’s looming as a big downgrade target for those who want to get rid of Michael Barlow or Tom Rockliff as he’s MID/FWD eligible, so he can run on either line. You may need to get on this week with a BE of -110 and a projected price rise of 80K on the cards next week.

Tom Papley

SC Price: $109,900 | AF Price: $189,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,000
Round 2 Stats: 17 disposals, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goals, 109 SCPoints, 74 AFPoints, 118 CKPoints

Lots of time forward for Papley, with 12 of his 17 possessions coming in Sydney’s forward 50 and that is where he is having a huge impact on the Swans forward line, as we can see in the tweet below

His BE is -149 and he is projected to jump up to $210K next week, so get on him now if you don’t have him. The concern from some which was highlighted here last week was he will lose his spot to Ben McGlynn when he returns from injury, which is valid, but you’d think the Swans would have to have a first class ticket on the crazy train to dump Papley when he’s playing so well and they’re winning games. Good chance he’s the most traded in player this week.

Wayne Milera

SC Price: $175,800 | AF Price: $217,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,100
Round 2 Stats: 20 disposals, 9 marks, 4 inside 50’s, 1 goal, 7 score involvements, 83 SCPoints, 88 AFPoints, 96 CKPoints

Milera was used more across half back last week, likely filling in a bit with Nathan Van Berlo out, with 10 of his 20 possessions coming across half back. He again showed dash, flair and a willingness to take the game on, which is encouraging to see. I wouldn’t expect any changes to the Crows squad, so if Milera can continue to spend some minutes in that lucrative half back role then I’d continue to persist with him as a starting option.

Mitch McGovern

SC Price: $123,900 | AF Price: $164,000 | CoachKings Price: $3,700
Round 2 Stats: 12 disposals, 5 marks, 2 inside 50’s, 2 goals, 8 score involvements, 61 SCPoints, 63 AFPoints, 78 CKPoints

A nice game from McGovern in the Showdown and he has started to show he can become a nice complimentary piece to the Crows Walker/Jenkins/Betts/Lynch forward line. His goal kicking is still a bit wonky (2.5 for the season), but he at least nailed the goals he should have in Round 2. He’s an OK piece to keep on your bench as long as he keeps playing; he is a more mature 2nd year player at 21 years of age, so it likely won’t be he’s dropped to give his body a rest like what can happen with 1st year players. With a BE of -30 he’s still got plenty of time left in him. 

Lincoln McCarthy

SC Price: $139,400 | AF Price: $172,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,400
Round 2 Stats: 13 disposals, 3 marks, 2 clearances, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 18 pressure acts, 66 SCPoints, 60 AFPoints, 83 CKPoints

That sort of score may be the peak of what we can expect from McCarthy in Supercoach, which isn’t great, but not completely awful either, at least not awful enough that I’d consider using a trade to get rid of him. The 18 pressure acts he applied in Round 2 was equal 4th at the Cats, things like that will ensure that he continues to keep his place in the side. I’m keeping him on my bench.

DEFENDERS

Jacob Weitering

SC Price: $220,800 | AF Price: $256,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,200
Round 2 Stats: 15 disposals, 6 marks, 5 rebound 50’s, 4 intercept possessions, 68 SCPoints, 53 AFPoints, 96 CKPoints

There might be a few disappointed Weitering owners after he scored only 68 SCPoints last week, but it was still a very solid game from the young man. I think the two most important things to consider is that he doesn’t look at of his depth at all and he is using the ball extremely well for a first year player.

That may be the most important thing; he’s hitting his targets and not having unforced errors. Just persist with him and he’s likely to jump back to a solid score this week. Some may be tempted to downgrade to a Tippa or Hartley from the Bombers and pocketing the spare cash, I can see the bonus of gaining $100K, but I’d rank a spare trade above that, especially when they probably have similar scoring potential at the end of the day and neither are likely season long keepers.

Caleb Marchbank

SC Price: $215,800 | AF Price: $194,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,700
Round 2 Stats: 6 possessions, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 31 SCPoints, 23 AFPoints, 47 CKPoints

I know there were a few Supercoachers out there eager to see if Marchbank could match the 93 SCPoints he scored in Round 1, but unfortunately he didn’t get the chance, suffering an ankle injury in the 2nd quarter. He’s likely to miss this week, but should be back for Round 4. He’s probably missed his window now though.

Matthew Dea

SC Price: $183,600 | AF Price: $216,000
Featured CoachKings Contest: Friday, Essendon VS Port Adelaide

Round 2 Stats: 18 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 3 rebound 50’s, 6 intercept possessions, 87 SCPoints, 69 AFPoints

Another game where Dea was flawless with his ball use, he’s currently averaging 16.5 possessions a game, with an average of 15 of them being recorded as effective possessions. He did finally recorded a clanger, his first of 2016 (including all of pre-season), which was a free paid against him, but he is looking like a terrific value pick for us this season.

Marcus Adams

SC Price: $117,300 | AF Price: $216,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,000
Featured CoachKings Contest: Sunday, Western Bulldogs VS Hawthorn
Round 2 Stats: 24 disposals, 5 marks, 5 tackles, 7 1%ers, 6 intercept possessions, 135 SCPoints, 101 AFPoints, 182 CKPoints

Just when you though Adams was impressive in his debut game, he goes and sets the bar even higher in Round 2! Not only is he setting the pace for rookies, but also for the entire AFL.

He’ll have a tougher match up this week against the Hawks, but he has been finding plenty of the ball for the Doggies and I would still be considering him a starting option this week. And much like Papley, if you don’t have him, you’ll need to give some serious consideration to trading him in. Bonus swingman option for your Barlow trade too. And if you’re headed down to your local for some CoachKings on Sunday then give some serious consideration to picking him after he scored an impressive 182 CKPoints last week.

RUCKS

None…for now.

KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR…

Ben Keays – Keays had 39 disposals, 149 SCPoints and 146 AFPoints last week in the NEAFL. With Rockliff, Beams, Robinson and Rich all hurting he could be brought in as soon as this week

Michael Hartley – Debuted last week and was solid. Scored 144 CKPoints and only costs $4,400 in CoachKings this week, so make sure you all pick him up on Friday night. Give him another week in SC/AF and see how he looks before considering bringing him in in those formats though.

Tom Ruggles – Upgraded from the rookie list by Geelong. Could be debuting this week.

Ciaran Byrne – Good early form in the VFL praccy matches and named as an Emergency for the Blues in Round 2.

Ed Langdon – Played his 3rd career game last week. In a Saturday night Freo VS West Coast game that doesn’t have a lot of cheap CoachKings players on offer picking up Langdon at $3,600 could be a shrewd move if he is named.

Dougal Howard – Just the 60 CKPoints in Round 2 for Dougal, but with Schulz sidelined again there’s value in picking him for $3,600 on Friday night

Karl Amon – $4,000 in CoachKings and a potential replacement for the injured Chad Wingard this week. Another cheap forward line option to consider for Friday night in CoachKings in the Port Adelaide VS Essendon match.

And that’ll be it for me this week. Any rookies you’re considering swapping too? Or are you looking to lock in a particular guy in your CoachKings side? Let us know in the comments below, or hit us up on Twitter @BarronVonCrow

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james

which is the better option community

Fyfe and libba

or

RGray and Parker

tom bellchambers

1st

greg

parker and libba

Ethan

To bring in Papley and Fyfe or JJ and Titchell/Parker/ward

Southern S

Option 1 is higher risk but higher profit.

Option 2 is less risk and should result in two keepers.

You'd already know this though and you just have to make a decision that is right for you.

corey

Get Kennedy or papley can I only choose one

bAps

Kennedy, his job security is 1000 times better than Papley's, and he should be a more consistent scorer.

Spifflicator

Kennedy. Papley has done well in thrashings and will slow dramatically now the the draw toughens up. Despite his not start he won't earn as much as Kennedy.

Chill

Great article Barron. Just waiting for team lists to be announced before I decide who is getting cut for Paps.
Gresham looking likely.

@BarronVonCrow

Cheers Chill.

And you were on the money with Gresham!

tom

Suggestions?

Shaw, Laird, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Adams, Tippa, Brown
Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Pendles, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Kerridge, Davis, Gresham, Hewett
Goldstein, Martin, Wyatt
Barlow, Hall, De Goey, Wells, Kennedy, Menadue, Petracca, Mccarthy

Option 1: Trade Rocky and Gresham to Gray and Papley via Petracca swing
Option 2: Trade Barlow and Gresham to Papley and Parker and next week trade Rocky down to rookie and upgrade De Geoy (if he flops again)
Option 3: Trade Rocky to Gray/Ward and trade Barlow to JJ via Adams swing.

Any other options?

bAps

Go with option 1, as it won't mess with your structures – you'll still have a rookie and a premo, while using 2 trades.

Gav

Thinking about going McCarthy to Papley and then Rockliff up to Grey. Thoughts community?

Also do I start with Menadue or Papley on field?

tom

Loophole them if you can

Youngy

Papey

The Ranger

Nice work Barron, really likng the new Scout format, thanks.

@BarronVonCrow

Thanks Ranger, glad you're digging it!

Kang Van DerBang

Bringing one of these in as a keeper for the OUTGOING Rockliff.

Please help me choose between:

G.Ablett
or
T.Mitchell
or
S. Mitchell
or
Zaharakis
or
<INSERT KEEPER HERE>

Appreciate your guidance community!

Mac

Ablett surely

Kang Van DerBang

I'm hearing a lot of noise about how Ablett isn't looking his fittest. Alluding to the possibility of being rested/missing games.

Some of the other picks will also mean a bigger warchest for upgrades

Supercoach king

Mitchell is averaging 132.5 already and is continuing that on from last year, is a must have ! (Supercoach)

ball

something that was made quite clear at the statr of the year is DONT get Ablett, Fyfe or S Mitchell.

They will NOT play all 22 games….fullstop.

Therefore look at Titch, Z Merrett and R Gray!!!

bAps

Rockliff to JJ (using DPP magic) and Gresham to Papley (again, using DPP magic)

OR

Rockliff to JJ and Barlow to Papley, and then use the $500k to upgrade Gresham to a premium mid next round.

Mac

Hold barlow one more week, see if he improves

SCaddict

I'd do option 2 myself whilst Barlow still has value. It also gives you one last look at Gresham just in case he punches out a decent score whilst also generating a little bit of extra cash.

And if you don't have Fyfe, Goldy or Heater all will be cheaper next week which could be something to use that bank balance on over the next fortnight.

Matt

What do with shaw an Barlow I'm in too 1500 ranking keep or sell

SCaddict

Barlow SELL / Heater KEEP

drew

Rocky and Gresham to Gray and Papley or

Barlow and Gresham to JJ and Papley then next week 100k to upgrade Rocky

Steve

Hey guys would like to know your thoughts on my 2 possible trades for thw eek:

rocky to parker

barlow to JJK

also have all the rookies so no problems there, but JJK seems interesting. thanks in advance 🙂

ThatDamnRascal

Have the cash to flick Barlow and Rocky this week to Gray and Dusty but Gresham is a really interesting one.

I'm thinking to give him one more week and bank the small price rise (17kish) then move him to a Hartley or Ruggles via DPP next week which give me about 50k + the cash Hartley/Ruggles will produce.

I know trades are gold but you also want to generate as much cash as possible in the early rounds. I don't plan on making any more trades until rd 7-8 then.

Thoughts?

Mister_Spock

Gresham's been dropped

Tim

Should I be using a trade to get Menadue in? Apart from him I have all the good rookies

Southern S

Depends who you would be trading.

Tom

Which of the following is the best option

hold Steele and give another chance if named and trade Gresham to Papley via dpp
or
Steele to Papley

Southern S

Yeah wait for team announcements, Gresham may even get dropped and Steele might be back in.

Both are trade worthy if not playing.

Nick

Community who should I trade to Robbie Gray, Mitch Duncan or Michael Barlow ? Cheers

FootyFanatic

I'd trade Barlow, Duncan had an off week after a heavy Mumford tackle

Pom

Duncan going to drop a lot in value after his score of 6 or something after experiencing the Mumford express. If he is a keeper in your side then it wont matter but if he is a stepping stone, trade him. Barlow albeit a stain on my SuperCoach pants, will drop less in value.

Spifflicator

Before everyone gets too excited on Papley just remember he is a small forward and small forwards generally score around 40-50. Those two hundreds are against poor opposition AND they cycle out of his price average by rounds 4 & 5. Sydneys draw now also gets tougher as they play GWS, Crows (away), and Eagles and you can expect his scoring to drop back to more normal levels. While he will rise hugely this week, and decently the next he could then stall at around $250k, so if you already have plenty of cash making rookies he is not a priority to get in, and definitely don't trade Barlow to him!

Remember last year and Nathan Van Berlo! Opened with two tons and then vanished! Heaps jumped off Touk Miller who had 2×30's onto him and then watched as Miller played every game earning over $200k.

Swans2012

Agree 100%, but that quick 150k+ and down to say a petracca/Ruffles in a fortnight is just too appealing for me to resist…..

Chill

Agree Swans. with some nice rooks sitting in the background we have some good downgrade options is Paps stagnates. Ill take the $150k thanks!

Derek

I wasn't going to chace Paps unless Gresham isn't named, prob get him then. It is tempting to get Quick $150k, but it will be the same as a slow $150k if I keep Gresham and save the trade

Southern S

Papley has the potential to profit double that of Gresham.

The Ranger

I'm hoppping on Paps purely because of the speed of his cash generation, there's a lot of good solid rookies this year but not many that will make cash fast and a lot that will do it slowly.
With a few rookies likely to start the season late too, the chance to make some fast cash is just too tempting.

Steeeve

I know multiple people who traded out Cripps for van Berlo after round two last season. MULTIPLE!!

JamiesNinjas13

NVB was at elevated price 200k whereas papley is base 102k. Not going to lie i brought in NVB and offloaded Touk, still gives me nightmares lol. 150k generated in 3 weeks is a must have. Aim is to get the right rookies and cycle them fast on your way to a full premium team.

Spifflicator

With Gresham out, it makes sense to go to Papley, but I've Mills to Papley which is just madness as that trade might only make an extra $50k!

Conor

Rockliff to parish
Or
Rockliff to Parker?
??

Swans2012

Parker, like for like

Youngy

Parker

Koov

Rocky to Ben Kennedy or Rocky to Tom Mitchell ?

FootyFanatic

Ben Kennedy

Jimbo

I have seen the Barlow > Papley trade as a popular one and I can see 400,000 reasons why. I personally don't like running with one less premium up forward but still want Papley. Is anyone else thinking of trading out M Cox (FwD/Ruc) and getting Papley? I have Grimley at R3 but can't really use the ruck / fwd swing as neither of them are playing. M cox looks less likely to get a game of the 2. Thoughts community?

murray

Similar situation to you, I have Chol in fwd line and will swap to Papley

Jimbo

Seems likely there will be an opportunity later inthe season to open up the ruck / fwd once these ruck rookies get a run. For now take the cash, cover and points from Papley

Derek

No brainer

Southern S

Running two donuts it's a no brainer to grab papley.

Bobby Singh

Rocky to Parker or Parish? Points or money?

Southern S

These are the tough choices of supercoach, don't let others make it for you.

Derek

You know JPK will be Parker price in a couple of weeks. Get him instead

Bobby Singh

Yeah, he'll be picked up by many in the second half of the season as that's the time he goes big.

JamiesNinjas13

Where can we find a website that shows the heat map of each player?

@BarronVonCrow

Hi James.

As far as I'm aware it's only available on the AFL app if you have a Live Pass.

JamiesNinjas13

Cheers Barron, it's a very useful tool to analyse players performances.

Pinidu

Community,

After days of pondering, listening to the almighty podcast and talking with various members of this great site…I have come up with four options for my trading this week.

Rockliff –> Parker
Mills/Parish –> Kennedy

OR

Rockliff –> Kennedy

OR

Mills –> Kennedy
** Wait one week **
McCarthy –> Hartley (Via DPP)
Rockliff –> Robbie Gray

OR

Rockliff –> Z. Merrett (via Hall DPP)
McCarthey –> BenKen

All I need now is your help to decide with option.
Thanks in advance.

Brook

1 or 3 – 1 is keeps the points coming this week but I like 3 for the long term. I have a similar dilemma … Parker looks great but he is three- quarters of a keeper, while Gray is the real deal. Make that trade count and wait would be my advice. I also have Wingard out this week so I may need to take a double hit but I am strongly considering it because I think all our trades need to get us closer to full premo (and I mean real genuine top 12 midfielder, top 9 fwd/def, top 3 ruck premo). Just 75% sure parker is top 12 – could be, but Gray is for sure I think

Pinidu

Thanks Brook. I'm leaning towards No. 3. I'm a huge fan of Robbie Gray and I had him in my team from start to finish last year. I jumped of him in 2016 becuase he lost his DPP status.

Bobby Singh

Keeping Rocky for a week would be a risky option. You want to offload him ASAP.

Pinidu

Wouldn't going to Parker be even riskier Bobby? By getting Parker, I'm assuming that he's a keeper. In keeping Rockliff for a week, I'll probably lose my H2H but next week….in comes Robbie Gray. What do you reckon?

curt

Same strategy as mine! Nice

Jack

Have Sam Gray and want robbie for rocky ! Good idea or get Hannebery or priddis

Southern S

Like robbie over hanne and priddis, but that is just personal opinion.

CaPtKaOs

Does anyone else have a feeling in their gut that we could see a player or 2 dropped/rested tonight and will have to completely revisit the "what to to about rocky and barlow" situation?

Spifflicator

Yes. Watch Longmire drop Papley, Hewett and Mills and give us all merry hell, or Eade decides to give Gaz the week off.

Southern S

Yep could easily happen.

Southern S

Mills, McCarthy and Parish are not to be traded.

You don't NEED parker/merret/gray yet.

Do the one solid trade with no regrets Rocky>Kennedy

Ponder next week whether to trade in Hartley.

Don't worry about the excess cash you will have, worry about not wasting trades and regretting it.

Derek

I think 'es got it!

mick

southern s and fall further behind great idea

min0008

Community, which trading option is better?

Rockliff – Gray and Barlow to Merrett

OR

Rockliff – Gray and Barlow to Papley

OR

Rockliff to Parker and M Cox to Papley

I need help and thanks in advance

Derek

Will Parker be top 8 midfielders this year?

Baggy Pants

Hard to say. Outside Hanners who would you rate higher Parker or Tich?

TRIGGER HAPPY

I see Wagner of the Dees variety has been upgraded off the rookie list and told he will b pulling on the Melbourne jumper this weekend. Another cheap rook to keep an eye on over the coming weeks.

Supernoob

I keep seeing people say they're trading Gresham for papley using 'DPP' could someone please explain how that works I'm pretty new to this.

Dave

Community! I have an announcement: in regards to Rockliff only trade him to someone who is vastly under price. Say Aaron hall, or another downgrade say a darcy parish. Otherwise hold. My reasoning is, in a few weeks time there will be an abundance of underpriced fallen premiums who will be able to be picked up super cheap. Jpk David Mundy Joel Selwood to name a few. I fear people are getting too short sighted and aren't seeing that it is a long year!

mark

and there will also be players like parker that will go up in price

@winterjames5

i'm running with Dea and Tipungwuti ahead of weltering and cutler this week, is this a good move? or do i need weltering on the field

Southern S

I'd run Weitering, he has a better average than both those guys.

Southern S

An average based on two games mind you!

Gr8Game is right though anything could happen with those guys. I'm actually thinking essendon are going to bring it to port tomorrow night but whether that means Dea and Tipu score well is another matter.

Gr8Game

I would go with Weitering however going with Dea & Tipungwuti would be a massive POD which could work in your favour, its a flip of the coin.

DadSmasher

I traded in a Clem Smith for McCarthy last week to get Fyffes capt score and have a loopholer for this very scenario. I have E on Dea in defense and Walla up front. Copped a lot of know-all feedback about how stupid it was but it's actually a gift that keeps on giving.

mick

why clem smith a fwd/mid is better 4 the loophole in mids and fwds very useful

Chris

Who do i trade out this week??
i have:
– Mitch robinson
– Rockliff
– Barlow

any advice on who should go and possibly who to trade to?

CoachDamo

Robinson is playing, so not him.

Maybe Barlow? Rockliff plays Sunday so you could see how your MID emergency scores first then make the decision?

CoachDamo

Gresham is OUT – he might be the one I trade to Papley.

magpie4ver

I already did that Gresham to Pap

Youngy

sounds good

Average Joe

Ruggles and Ciaran Byrne both playing

Alex

Barlow named on the ball…but bloody Ross is probably playing mind games.

CoachDamo

I thought exactly the same thing!

SCaddict

I reckon he gets a perverse thrill toying with the plums of fantasy coaches.

MaccasMarvels

Ken Hinkley does the same with Robbie Gray every week. Always named in the forward pocket. Gray always dominates everywhere!! Less mind games I suppose, but I wonder why that is.

Tophawk

Maccaffer Out as well. Daniel Menzel and Cockatoo named for the cats.

Average Joe

goodyear in tho

SCaddict

Caff wasn't going to be much of a cash cow anyway so this just makes the decision to switch him out a no brainer for his coaches now.

magpie4ver

Well , looks like Barlow is playing in the guts do we still trade him? Its really killing me whether I should hold or trade?

Southern S

I'm keeping him for another week.

Gold Rush

Me too, screws up this week and the execution will be swift!

magpie4ver

But its projected he will lose a ton of coin and if I go Gresham to Papley and Barlow to Zaharkis I save money and a huge increase next week if Barlow spuds again well then I trade him out next week and lose tons of coin and harder to trade. I personally am not feeling Barlow is a keeper now?

Gresham To Papley
Barlow To Zaharakis

medadsson

Tough decision for sure but (if the byes concern you) how is your Essendon balance looking? I have pondered same moves but have left it at Gresham to Papley. Barlow has looked very poor this season but can't help but wait one more week. He always plays well in the Derby having won two best afield. Guess I am just hoping now 🙂

magpie4ver

Well I just looked and Barlow BE is 174 as to Zaharakis BE is -19

Cant see Barlow reaching his BE anytime soon? More money in the Kitty Barlow avg 60 Zaharakis avg 132.50 save money and make more.

magpie4ver

I never worry about the byes until a few weeks before and start planing then……with bringing in rookies and stuff or other players to generate cash its to hard to tell right now. I'm not going to worry about a bye week right now based on generating more cash…..it will drive you nuts. Just going to conserve trades as best as possible and save coin to go bang in those bye rounds to bring in premos. Going conservative early and save the trades.

@winterjames5

gresham dropped

Southern S

Clayton Oliver and Josh Dunkley on the extended list and could also be dumped.

Average Joe

With the news that Barlow is playing on ball to start with, I think I might keep him another week and if he doesn't produce, bang

magpie4ver

Fyfe will take his spot watch…….it will change before game time it's a smoke screen

Alex

Rocky to Hall
Or
Barlow to Hall
Or hold

Cheers community

Average Joe

Rocky to hall

Southern S

Yeah probably Rocky to Hall at this stage.

Gold Rush

Barlow named on ball, I swear Lyon is a SC torture merchant!!!!

Northernsoul74

He was named on ball round 1 as well.

JamiesNinjas13

Ward and Shield named on interchange bench so the line up positions never really matter.
But my rule is if a rookie is named onfield and not on extended bench, they will certainly play.

Rick Grimes

Kane Lambert. Getting plenty of it. Will he keep it up?

Southern S

Yes? No? maybe?

Which answer do you want to hear?

Rick Grimes

Haha, the right one. Maybe a Tiges fan with some insight. Sarcastic cnuts…not so much.

Southern S

lol tiges fan will tell you that on the back of Lambert they'll actually have an impact on the top 8 and maybe win a game in finals.

Youngy

where also winning the granny, Southern S

I don't think Lambert can keep in up, if you remember last year Hunt from the tigers has a great start and faded away very quickly, I can imagine Lambert having somewhat the same outcome.

DadSmasher

Come off it Youngy Lambert is a hard bodied VFL league best fairest winning ball magnet, he has more leadership in his snot than the rest of the tigers team combined and could easily be the highest scoring tiger on brownlow night. He'll be 500k by the bye rounds (almost as good as any mid 80 points cash cow). Difference is Lambert will knock out a few 120plus amongst his low 90's.
If I was short on cash and needed a reliable M8 until the byes he'd be first choice

Southern S

I was just stirring tiges fans up!

I actually think Lambert is pretty good and won't fade like hunt.

Not sure he can be a Premo though I have more faith in Zaha so I locked him in.

Leeds17

Like his style, tackles & goals and on the days where he gets near 30 touches he'll go big but his mid minutes dropped a bit last week and with Edwards and Lids coming back that takes away a few more.
Would've loved to have started with him but can't trade him in now.

Tophawk

Barlow will stay in my team for now. Another bad spud will see him traded out next week. I am hoping he can get his act together and that he does indeed play in the guts this week. If he pumps out a decent score (120+) it would relieve the stress of having to trade him immediately and his price drop would be modest. Time will tell!

Rick Grimes

If he pulls out a 120 I'll name my first born Spud Barlow.

Wattsieesq

You're renaming Carl?

Rick Grimes

Carl could be dead?

Gold Rush

Yep, last chance!!!

DadSmasher

So is he on your bench with the E?

hedski

I will be very tempted if tippa scores 80 + with the e on him fwd to swing barlow to bench

Tom

Is papley a must have?

magpie4ver

That would be affirmative

Youngy

No, that said he getting traded into my team.

DadSmasher

No Tom you can have whichever players you want as long as you don't exceed the salary cap and you have exactly 30 players in your team.

REN

-Gresham to Papley
-Harwood to Hartley

OR

Rockliff to Papley via dpp
Harwood to JJ/Laird with 100-200k in the bank

Wattsieesq

Wait a week on Hartley. He has only played one game, so his price doesn't rise after this weekend.

henry

Anyone else having trouble with new Supercoach app. for iphone 6 or others.
Doesn't open. Hopeless. New name "Supercrash". How many weeks out injured ?

hedski

Henry the app was shit last year too. Gaz forbid ya needed t do a trade or shift before a game. I use phone and just go thru hs website. Heaps easy

lachie08

what kind of scores are we expecting from papery this week.

Wattsieesq

130 or I'm trading him. Sick of his low 100 scores. Rookies should be scoring more.

magpie4ver

LOL ok

Southern S

300. Chuck the C on him.

Swans2012

Realistically 60-80, small forward scoring

Vex

Now with Barlow starting In The guts, do I trade him or Rockliff for Papley ?

Chill

Vex… Barlow started there in round 1 too..

Marco_Polo94

Teams dropped shows me my first trade; Gresham –> Paps. For my second trade which would be more beneficial?
Barlow –> Blicavs
or
Bartel –> JJ
or
Barlow –> JJ

I like the Blicavs option as a POD, and someone I can swing to my rucks when it is convenient. Even if that swing doesn't happen, him averaging 110+ will solidify him as a keeper in my mids. Am worried about Bartel's performances so far, almost more so than Barlow's.

Gr8Game

Stupid trades in my opinion, these are classed as SIDE WAYS TRADES which is crazy. I would be keeping Bartel & Barlow. However good luck what ever you chose to do.

Marco_Polo94

After a good sleep I've come around and agree with you and will be holding both for this week. However if Barlow's role stays as it has the first 2 rounds he will be chopped next week, sideways trades are sometimes necessary. I agree that trading Bartel for JJ is the definition of chasing points and I thank you for your opinion on the matter.

DadSmasher

Blicavs is reasonable to trade into the ruck but not the middle, for an extra 20k you can get Parker and earn a few more points. unless you have leuey lobbe or a real dud in the rucks ride it out. Goldy Martin Jacobs and all premo rucks have low averages at the moment, we expected 120's but they're delivering 90's. If you're rucks are ave 75-80 that's only 20-25 points less than goldy and if goldy was ave 125 and your starter rucks 100 you'd be very happy so why not be happy with the same ave difference just lower numbers?
Might be 1 too many end of week beers in that.

Marco_Polo94

True, maybe i got overexcited about Blicavs swing ability. Tempted to now give Barlow another week to prove himself.