The Rookie Scout: Round 3

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Barron Von Crow

“Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions!”

Rowdy Roddy Piper

 They were the immortal words spoken by Roddy Piper and never have they been truer than in Round 2 of Supercoach, a week which has left many of us with feelings of dismay, confusion and self-pity as we watched guys who blew the doors away in Round 1 score like rookies. Guys we’d written off jump back into our calculations. Injuries striking and all sorts of other types of fantasy football related mayhem.

But I’m telling you all right now to snap outta your funk, because as much trouble as your Michael Barlows, your Tom Rockliffs and your Daniel Richs (good lord, I just had a Gary Ayers press conference flashback) are causing you, there is one thing that cannot be denied which is we have got a pretty darn good crop of young rookies on our side this year who just may become the saving grace of our Supercoach teams.

Round 2 was another great week for a lot of our rookie picks, but now comes one of the most critical times of the year. Week 3 is when these rookies will start to fatten up, so we need to select the best blokes who are going to both score well and make us plenty of cash over the next 10 or so weeks. And that’s what I’m going to try and help you with here today.

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Callum Mills

SC Price: $211,800 | AF Price: $250,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,100
Round 2 Stats: 19 disposals, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 2 clearances, 4 intercept possessions, 68 SCPoints, 69 AFPoints, 70 CKPoints

Another week, another solid score for Mills with 68 SCPoints, but that’s a score that’s probably a good 10-15 points below what we’d really want from him. The number of uncontested ball likely remains his biggest obstacle to pushing up his points, but when you’re hanging around half back you probably aren’t as likely to be in the trenches where the hard ball is won. His Supercoach BE is still -15, so there’s plenty of cash left to be generated in him, and remember, because we paid slightly more for him to start his initial BE is likely to be a bit lower than those guys who cost us between $105-125K. Keep him in your team and keep plugging him in at M7-M8.

Clayton Oliver

SC Price: $207,300 | AF Price: $251,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,000
Round 2 Stats: 14 disposals, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 60 SCPoints, 49 AFPoints, 60 CKPoints

It was a bit of a disappointing return for Clayton, after a great Round 1 in which he received the Rising Star nomination and did some tremendous clearance work in the midfield. Oliver recorded 7 clearances in Round 1, but 0 in Round 2, as his work in the middle of the ground was changed up a bit last week, with Oliver spending more time on the wings. This could have been because Angus Brayshaw was recalled who spent a bit of time in the middle, or it could just be Paul Roos exposing Oliver to different parts of the ground. Either way, if you have him, you’ll have to keep him, like Mills his BE is still very reasonable at -14, which means there’s still plenty of use in him yet.

George Hewett

SC Price: $123,900 | AF Price: $198,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,400
Round 2 Stats: 15 disposals, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 5 clangers, 48 SCPoints, 68 AFPoints, 61 CKPoints

Ahh, the life of rookies in Supercoach, who one week score in the 90’s, then score almost half as many points with the same sort of stat line. But stats can sometimes be deceiving on the surface, while he had 15 disposals and a goal in each game, it was the around the ground stuff that dried up for Hewett in Round 2, with marks and tackles each down from 7 to 3 and a clanger count that rose from 1 to 5.  His disposal efficiency being in the 60% range again would be a concern for me, but he has shown there’s still scope for improvement in his game and can score well if needed.

Ryan Davis

SC Price: $102,400 | AF Price: $166,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,000
Round 2 Stats: 8 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 2 goals, 63 SCPoints, 48 AFPoints, 103 CK Points

A lower possession count for Davis for Round 2, but he made an impact in front of the big sticks, unlike in Round 1 where he missed his shots. I’d say at best most people aren’t starting Davis and at worse have him as their emergency, so with a BE sitting at -60 this week and a projected price rise of $53K on the cards, leaving him sitting on your bench just to raise some money seems like the best move and hopefully you don’t have to use him until it’s time to cull.

Darcy Parish

SC Price: $202,800 | AF Price: $319,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,200
Featured CoachKings Contest: Friday, Essendon VS Port Adelaide
Round 2 Stats: 21 disposals, 3 marks, 8 tackles, 5 inside 50’s, 1 goal, 97 SCPoints, 102 AFPoints, 98 CKPoints

Darcy Parish was the Round 2 Rising Star nominee and with good reason, producing an absolute ripper of a game in Essendons win against Melbourne. His around the ground work was fantastic with the 8 tackles and again ranked in the top 3 for pressure acts for the Bombers, while his ball use improved from 64% disposal efficiency in Round 1 to 88% in Round 2. His heat maps show he again got plenty of action in the middle and down across half back too. If you’re really set on trading Rockliff out and prefer a downgrade to a sideways trade, then Parish could be a very interesting pick. Make sure you pick him this Friday night for CoachKings too!

Jade Gresham

SC Price: $144,300 | AF Price: $210,000 | CoachKings Price: $3,600
Round 2 Stats: 13 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 37 SCPoints, 50 AFPoints, 18 CKPoints

Gresham appears to be spending more time forward of the centre square, which hasn’t been the most profitable area of the ground for the Saints with only 33% of their possessions occurring in their forward half in Round 2, down from 37% in Round 1 (which isn’t that high either!). If I’m being blunt, Gresham has been a disappointment for us with two scores below 50 SCPoints. I think a lot of us picked him because he was cheaper than Parish/Oliver/Mills and had decent JS, but his scores just haven’t been there. At his current pace he’s only projected to reach around the $200-$210K range. That simply won’t cut it as a rookie cash cow option. So what do we do with him? There are a few options, if you can’t afford the straight upgrade to Parish/Kennedy/Oliver etc, then you could look at a cheaper option in George Hewett and bank the extra $20K. You could also swap a Menadue into your midfield and then bring in Tom Papley if you don’t have him, or if you’re downgrading an injured Rockliff/out of form Barlow then just use the money you gain from that to upgrade him. I have him and will be giving strong consideration to moving him on this week, though I think most will have bigger problems to deal with this week. Of course, you can always hold onto him and hope he turns it around, rookies can be unpredictable like that.

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Connor Menadue

SC Price: $155,400 | AF Price: $187,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,700
Round 2 Stats: 17 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 3 inside 50’s, 2 rebound 50’s, 17 pressure acts, 63 SCPoints, 67 AFPoints, 60 CKPoints

Menadue was 2nd for the Tigers for pressure acts applied against the Pies as he continued his high amount of work around the wing from the back to forward half of the ground and I reckon we can continue to pencil in scores between 60 and 80 SCPoints. On the whole the Tigers were a bit sloppy last Friday, so it’s probably a bit understandable his SC scores were down on Round 1. His BE is sitting at -52 and I reckon you can feel pretty confident about starting him if you have to.

Sam Kerridge

SC Price: $137,600 | AF Price: $341,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,700
Round 2 Stats: 22 disposals, 4 marks, 2 clearances, 2 goals, 18 pressure acts, 106 SCPoints, 91 AFPoints, 111 CKPoints

There wasn’t really any time for Kerridge in the middle this week, with the Kedge gaining the majority of his possessions on the wing, but it didn’t really matter as he still racked up a good score in Supercoach. That’s a definite credit to Kerridge and his “jack of all trades” football ability and it also lends a sense of security to us in the fantasy football community because it likely means we don’t have to worry about him getting tons of time on ball to be useful. Keep starting him every week and at this rate he could perhaps even turn into a potential keeper in the forward line.

Ben Kennedy

SC Price: $187,800 | AF Price: $269,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,800
Round 2 Stats: 21 disposals, 3 tackles, 3 clearances, 3 inside 50’s, 3 goals, 21 pressure acts, 105 SCPoints, 90 AFPoints, 140 CKPoints

Another one like Sam Kerridge who is perhaps looking like a season long keeper if he can continue his current scoring pace, Kennedy had another great game and like Kerridge he’s another one who seems to do a bit of everything out there. He’s looming as a big downgrade target for those who want to get rid of Michael Barlow or Tom Rockliff as he’s MID/FWD eligible, so he can run on either line. You may need to get on this week with a BE of -110 and a projected price rise of 80K on the cards next week.

Tom Papley

SC Price: $109,900 | AF Price: $189,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,000
Round 2 Stats: 17 disposals, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goals, 109 SCPoints, 74 AFPoints, 118 CKPoints

Lots of time forward for Papley, with 12 of his 17 possessions coming in Sydney’s forward 50 and that is where he is having a huge impact on the Swans forward line, as we can see in the tweet below

His BE is -149 and he is projected to jump up to $210K next week, so get on him now if you don’t have him. The concern from some which was highlighted here last week was he will lose his spot to Ben McGlynn when he returns from injury, which is valid, but you’d think the Swans would have to have a first class ticket on the crazy train to dump Papley when he’s playing so well and they’re winning games. Good chance he’s the most traded in player this week.

Wayne Milera

SC Price: $175,800 | AF Price: $217,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,100
Round 2 Stats: 20 disposals, 9 marks, 4 inside 50’s, 1 goal, 7 score involvements, 83 SCPoints, 88 AFPoints, 96 CKPoints

Milera was used more across half back last week, likely filling in a bit with Nathan Van Berlo out, with 10 of his 20 possessions coming across half back. He again showed dash, flair and a willingness to take the game on, which is encouraging to see. I wouldn’t expect any changes to the Crows squad, so if Milera can continue to spend some minutes in that lucrative half back role then I’d continue to persist with him as a starting option.

Mitch McGovern

SC Price: $123,900 | AF Price: $164,000 | CoachKings Price: $3,700
Round 2 Stats: 12 disposals, 5 marks, 2 inside 50’s, 2 goals, 8 score involvements, 61 SCPoints, 63 AFPoints, 78 CKPoints

A nice game from McGovern in the Showdown and he has started to show he can become a nice complimentary piece to the Crows Walker/Jenkins/Betts/Lynch forward line. His goal kicking is still a bit wonky (2.5 for the season), but he at least nailed the goals he should have in Round 2. He’s an OK piece to keep on your bench as long as he keeps playing; he is a more mature 2nd year player at 21 years of age, so it likely won’t be he’s dropped to give his body a rest like what can happen with 1st year players. With a BE of -30 he’s still got plenty of time left in him. 

Lincoln McCarthy

SC Price: $139,400 | AF Price: $172,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,400
Round 2 Stats: 13 disposals, 3 marks, 2 clearances, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 18 pressure acts, 66 SCPoints, 60 AFPoints, 83 CKPoints

That sort of score may be the peak of what we can expect from McCarthy in Supercoach, which isn’t great, but not completely awful either, at least not awful enough that I’d consider using a trade to get rid of him. The 18 pressure acts he applied in Round 2 was equal 4th at the Cats, things like that will ensure that he continues to keep his place in the side. I’m keeping him on my bench.


Jacob Weitering

SC Price: $220,800 | AF Price: $256,000 | CoachKings Price: $5,200
Round 2 Stats: 15 disposals, 6 marks, 5 rebound 50’s, 4 intercept possessions, 68 SCPoints, 53 AFPoints, 96 CKPoints

There might be a few disappointed Weitering owners after he scored only 68 SCPoints last week, but it was still a very solid game from the young man. I think the two most important things to consider is that he doesn’t look at of his depth at all and he is using the ball extremely well for a first year player.

That may be the most important thing; he’s hitting his targets and not having unforced errors. Just persist with him and he’s likely to jump back to a solid score this week. Some may be tempted to downgrade to a Tippa or Hartley from the Bombers and pocketing the spare cash, I can see the bonus of gaining $100K, but I’d rank a spare trade above that, especially when they probably have similar scoring potential at the end of the day and neither are likely season long keepers.

Caleb Marchbank

SC Price: $215,800 | AF Price: $194,000 | CoachKings Price: $4,700
Round 2 Stats: 6 possessions, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 31 SCPoints, 23 AFPoints, 47 CKPoints

I know there were a few Supercoachers out there eager to see if Marchbank could match the 93 SCPoints he scored in Round 1, but unfortunately he didn’t get the chance, suffering an ankle injury in the 2nd quarter. He’s likely to miss this week, but should be back for Round 4. He’s probably missed his window now though.

Matthew Dea

SC Price: $183,600 | AF Price: $216,000
Featured CoachKings Contest: Friday, Essendon VS Port Adelaide

Round 2 Stats: 18 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 3 rebound 50’s, 6 intercept possessions, 87 SCPoints, 69 AFPoints

Another game where Dea was flawless with his ball use, he’s currently averaging 16.5 possessions a game, with an average of 15 of them being recorded as effective possessions. He did finally recorded a clanger, his first of 2016 (including all of pre-season), which was a free paid against him, but he is looking like a terrific value pick for us this season.

Marcus Adams

SC Price: $117,300 | AF Price: $216,000 | CoachKings Price: $6,000
Featured CoachKings Contest: Sunday, Western Bulldogs VS Hawthorn
Round 2 Stats: 24 disposals, 5 marks, 5 tackles, 7 1%ers, 6 intercept possessions, 135 SCPoints, 101 AFPoints, 182 CKPoints

Just when you though Adams was impressive in his debut game, he goes and sets the bar even higher in Round 2! Not only is he setting the pace for rookies, but also for the entire AFL.

He’ll have a tougher match up this week against the Hawks, but he has been finding plenty of the ball for the Doggies and I would still be considering him a starting option this week. And much like Papley, if you don’t have him, you’ll need to give some serious consideration to trading him in. Bonus swingman option for your Barlow trade too. And if you’re headed down to your local for some CoachKings on Sunday then give some serious consideration to picking him after he scored an impressive 182 CKPoints last week.


None…for now.


Ben Keays – Keays had 39 disposals, 149 SCPoints and 146 AFPoints last week in the NEAFL. With Rockliff, Beams, Robinson and Rich all hurting he could be brought in as soon as this week

Michael Hartley – Debuted last week and was solid. Scored 144 CKPoints and only costs $4,400 in CoachKings this week, so make sure you all pick him up on Friday night. Give him another week in SC/AF and see how he looks before considering bringing him in in those formats though.

Tom Ruggles – Upgraded from the rookie list by Geelong. Could be debuting this week.

Ciaran Byrne – Good early form in the VFL praccy matches and named as an Emergency for the Blues in Round 2.

Ed Langdon – Played his 3rd career game last week. In a Saturday night Freo VS West Coast game that doesn’t have a lot of cheap CoachKings players on offer picking up Langdon at $3,600 could be a shrewd move if he is named.

Dougal Howard – Just the 60 CKPoints in Round 2 for Dougal, but with Schulz sidelined again there’s value in picking him for $3,600 on Friday night

Karl Amon – $4,000 in CoachKings and a potential replacement for the injured Chad Wingard this week. Another cheap forward line option to consider for Friday night in CoachKings in the Port Adelaide VS Essendon match.

And that’ll be it for me this week. Any rookies you’re considering swapping too? Or are you looking to lock in a particular guy in your CoachKings side? Let us know in the comments below, or hit us up on Twitter @BarronVonCrow

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which is the better option community

Fyfe and libba


RGray and Parker

tom bellchambers



parker and libba


To bring in Papley and Fyfe or JJ and Titchell/Parker/ward

Southern S

Option 1 is higher risk but higher profit.

Option 2 is less risk and should result in two keepers.

You'd already know this though and you just have to make a decision that is right for you.


Get Kennedy or papley can I only choose one


Kennedy, his job security is 1000 times better than Papley's, and he should be a more consistent scorer.


Kennedy. Papley has done well in thrashings and will slow dramatically now the the draw toughens up. Despite his not start he won't earn as much as Kennedy.


Great article Barron. Just waiting for team lists to be announced before I decide who is getting cut for Paps.
Gresham looking likely.


Cheers Chill.

And you were on the money with Gresham!



Shaw, Laird, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Adams, Tippa, Brown
Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Pendles, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Kerridge, Davis, Gresham, Hewett
Goldstein, Martin, Wyatt
Barlow, Hall, De Goey, Wells, Kennedy, Menadue, Petracca, Mccarthy

Option 1: Trade Rocky and Gresham to Gray and Papley via Petracca swing
Option 2: Trade Barlow and Gresham to Papley and Parker and next week trade Rocky down to rookie and upgrade De Geoy (if he flops again)
Option 3: Trade Rocky to Gray/Ward and trade Barlow to JJ via Adams swing.

Any other options?


Go with option 1, as it won't mess with your structures – you'll still have a rookie and a premo, while using 2 trades.


Thinking about going McCarthy to Papley and then Rockliff up to Grey. Thoughts community?

Also do I start with Menadue or Papley on field?


Loophole them if you can



The Ranger

Nice work Barron, really likng the new Scout format, thanks.


Thanks Ranger, glad you're digging it!

Kang Van DerBang

Bringing one of these in as a keeper for the OUTGOING Rockliff.

Please help me choose between:

S. Mitchell

Appreciate your guidance community!


Ablett surely

Kang Van DerBang

I'm hearing a lot of noise about how Ablett isn't looking his fittest. Alluding to the possibility of being rested/missing games.

Some of the other picks will also mean a bigger warchest for upgrades

Supercoach king

Mitchell is averaging 132.5 already and is continuing that on from last year, is a must have ! (Supercoach)


something that was made quite clear at the statr of the year is DONT get Ablett, Fyfe or S Mitchell.

They will NOT play all 22 games….fullstop.

Therefore look at Titch, Z Merrett and R Gray!!!


Rockliff to JJ (using DPP magic) and Gresham to Papley (again, using DPP magic)


Rockliff to JJ and Barlow to Papley, and then use the $500k to upgrade Gresham to a premium mid next round.


Hold barlow one more week, see if he improves


I'd do option 2 myself whilst Barlow still has value. It also gives you one last look at Gresham just in case he punches out a decent score whilst also generating a little bit of extra cash.

And if you don't have Fyfe, Goldy or Heater all will be cheaper next week which could be something to use that bank balance on over the next fortnight.


What do with shaw an Barlow I'm in too 1500 ranking keep or sell


Barlow SELL / Heater KEEP


Rocky and Gresham to Gray and Papley or

Barlow and Gresham to JJ and Papley then next week 100k to upgrade Rocky


Hey guys would like to know your thoughts on my 2 possible trades for thw eek:

rocky to parker

barlow to JJK

also have all the rookies so no problems there, but JJK seems interesting. thanks in advance 🙂


Have the cash to flick Barlow and Rocky this week to Gray and Dusty but Gresham is a really interesting one.

I'm thinking to give him one more week and bank the small price rise (17kish) then move him to a Hartley or Ruggles via DPP next week which give me about 50k + the cash Hartley/Ruggles will produce.

I know trades are gold but you also want to generate as much cash as possible in the early rounds. I don't plan on making any more trades until rd 7-8 then.



Gresham's been dropped


Should I be using a trade to get Menadue in? Apart from him I have all the good rookies

Southern S

Depends who you would be trading.


Which of the following is the best option

hold Steele and give another chance if named and trade Gresham to Papley via dpp
Steele to Papley

Southern S

Yeah wait for team announcements, Gresham may even get dropped and Steele might be back in.

Both are trade worthy if not playing.


Community who should I trade to Robbie Gray, Mitch Duncan or Michael Barlow ? Cheers


I'd trade Barlow, Duncan had an off week after a heavy Mumford tackle


Duncan going to drop a lot in value after his score of 6 or something after experiencing the Mumford express. If he is a keeper in your side then it wont matter but if he is a stepping stone, trade him. Barlow albeit a stain on my SuperCoach pants, will drop less in value.


Before everyone gets too excited on Papley just remember he is a small forward and small forwards generally score around 40-50. Those two hundreds are against poor opposition AND they cycle out of his price average by rounds 4 & 5. Sydneys draw now also gets tougher as they play GWS, Crows (away), and Eagles and you can expect his scoring to drop back to more normal levels. While he will rise hugely this week, and decently the next he could then stall at around $250k, so if you already have plenty of cash making rookies he is not a priority to get in, and definitely don't trade Barlow to him!

Remember last year and Nathan Van Berlo! Opened with two tons and then vanished! Heaps jumped off Touk Miller who had 2×30's onto him and then watched as Miller played every game earning over $200k.


Agree 100%, but that quick 150k+ and down to say a petracca/Ruffles in a fortnight is just too appealing for me to resist…..


Agree Swans. with some nice rooks sitting in the background we have some good downgrade options is Paps stagnates. Ill take the $150k thanks!


I wasn't going to chace Paps unless Gresham isn't named, prob get him then. It is tempting to get Quick $150k, but it will be the same as a slow $150k if I keep Gresham and save the trade

Southern S

Papley has the potential to profit double that of Gresham.

The Ranger

I'm hoppping on Paps purely because of the speed of his cash generation, there's a lot of good solid rookies this year but not many that will make cash fast and a lot that will do it slowly.
With a few rookies likely to start the season late too, the chance to make some fast cash is just too tempting.


I know multiple people who traded out Cripps for van Berlo after round two last season. MULTIPLE!!


NVB was at elevated price 200k whereas papley is base 102k. Not going to lie i brought in NVB and offloaded Touk, still gives me nightmares lol. 150k generated in 3 weeks is a must have. Aim is to get the right rookies and cycle them fast on your way to a full premium team.


With Gresham out, it makes sense to go to Papley, but I've Mills to Papley which is just madness as that trade might only make an extra $50k!


Rockliff to parish
Rockliff to Parker?


Parker, like for like




Rocky to Ben Kennedy or Rocky to Tom Mitchell ?


Ben Kennedy


Have Sam Gray and want robbie for rocky ! Good idea or get Hannebery or priddis


I have seen the Barlow > Papley trade as a popular one and I can see 400,000 reasons why. I personally don't like running with one less premium up forward but still want Papley. Is anyone else thinking of trading out M Cox (FwD/Ruc) and getting Papley? I have Grimley at R3 but can't really use the ruck / fwd swing as neither of them are playing. M cox looks less likely to get a game of the 2. Thoughts community?


Similar situation to you, I have Chol in fwd line and will swap to Papley


Seems likely there will be an opportunity later inthe season to open up the ruck / fwd once these ruck rookies get a run. For now take the cash, cover and points from Papley


No brainer

Southern S

Running two donuts it's a no brainer to grab papley.

Bobby Singh

Rocky to Parker or Parish? Points or money?

Southern S

These are the tough choices of supercoach, don't let others make it for you.


You know JPK will be Parker price in a couple of weeks. Get him instead

Bobby Singh

Yeah, he'll be picked up by many in the second half of the season as that's the time he goes big.


Where can we find a website that shows the heat map of each player?


Hi James.

As far as I'm aware it's only available on the AFL app if you have a Live Pass.


Cheers Barron, it's a very useful tool to analyse players performances.



After days of pondering, listening to the almighty podcast and talking with various members of this great site…I have come up with four options for my trading this week.

Rockliff –> Parker
Mills/Parish –> Kennedy


Rockliff –> Kennedy


Mills –> Kennedy
** Wait one week **
McCarthy –> Hartley (Via DPP)
Rockliff –> Robbie Gray


Rockliff –> Z. Merrett (via Hall DPP)
McCarthey –> BenKen

All I need now is your help to decide with option.
Thanks in advance.


1 or 3 – 1 is keeps the points coming this week but I like 3 for the long term. I have a similar dilemma … Parker looks great but he is three- quarters of a keeper, while Gray is the real deal. Make that trade count and wait would be my advice. I also have Wingard out this week so I may need to take a double hit but I am strongly considering it because I think all our trades need to get us closer to full premo (and I mean real genuine top 12 midfielder, top 9 fwd/def, top 3 ruck premo). Just 75% sure parker is top 12 – could be, but Gray is for sure I think


Thanks Brook. I'm leaning towards No. 3. I'm a huge fan of Robbie Gray and I had him in my team from start to finish last year. I jumped of him in 2016 becuase he lost his DPP status.

Bobby Singh

Keeping Rocky for a week would be a risky option. You want to offload him ASAP.


Wouldn't going to Parker be even riskier Bobby? By getting Parker, I'm assuming that he's a keeper. In keeping Rockliff for a week, I'll probably lose my H2H but next week….in comes Robbie Gray. What do you reckon?


Same strategy as mine! Nice

Southern S

Like robbie over hanne and priddis, but that is just personal opinion.


Does anyone else have a feeling in their gut that we could see a player or 2 dropped/rested tonight and will have to completely revisit the "what to to about rocky and barlow" situation?


Yes. Watch Longmire drop Papley, Hewett and Mills and give us all merry hell, or Eade decides to give Gaz the week off.

Southern S

Yep could easily happen.

Southern S

Mills, McCarthy and Parish are not to be traded.

You don't NEED parker/merret/gray yet.

Do the one solid trade with no regrets Rocky>Kennedy

Ponder next week whether to trade in Hartley.

Don't worry about the excess cash you will have, worry about not wasting trades and regretting it.


I think 'es got it!


southern s and fall further behind great idea


Community, which trading option is better?

Rockliff – Gray and Barlow to Merrett


Rockliff – Gray and Barlow to Papley


Rockliff to Parker and M Cox to Papley

I need help and thanks in advance


Will Parker be top 8 midfielders this year?

Baggy Pants

Hard to say. Outside Hanners who would you rate higher Parker or Tich?


I see Wagner of the Dees variety has been upgraded off the rookie list and told he will b pulling on the Melbourne jumper this weekend. Another cheap rook to keep an eye on over the coming weeks.


I keep seeing people say they're trading Gresham for papley using 'DPP' could someone please explain how that works I'm pretty new to this.


Community! I have an announcement: in regards to Rockliff only trade him to someone who is vastly under price. Say Aaron hall, or another downgrade say a darcy parish. Otherwise hold. My reasoning is, in a few weeks time there will be an abundance of underpriced fallen premiums who will be able to be picked up super cheap. Jpk David Mundy Joel Selwood to name a few. I fear people are getting too short sighted and aren't seeing that it is a long year!


and there will also be players like parker that will go up in price


i'm running with Dea and Tipungwuti ahead of weltering and cutler this week, is this a good move? or do i need weltering on the field

Southern S

I'd run Weitering, he has a better average than both those guys.

Southern S

An average based on two games mind you!

Gr8Game is right though anything could happen with those guys. I'm actually thinking essendon are going to bring it to port tomorrow night but whether that means Dea and Tipu score well is another matter.


I would go with Weitering however going with Dea & Tipungwuti would be a massive POD which could work in your favour, its a flip of the coin.


I traded in a Clem Smith for McCarthy last week to get Fyffes capt score and have a loopholer for this very scenario. I have E on Dea in defense and Walla up front. Copped a lot of know-all feedback about how stupid it was but it's actually a gift that keeps on giving.


why clem smith a fwd/mid is better 4 the loophole in mids and fwds very useful


Who do i trade out this week??
i have:
– Mitch robinson
– Rockliff
– Barlow

any advice on who should go and possibly who to trade to?


Robinson is playing, so not him.

Maybe Barlow? Rockliff plays Sunday so you could see how your MID emergency scores first then make the decision?


Gresham is OUT – he might be the one I trade to Papley.


I already did that Gresham to Pap


sounds good

Average Joe

Ruggles and Ciaran Byrne both playing


Barlow named on the ball…but bloody Ross is probably playing mind games.


I thought exactly the same thing!


I reckon he gets a perverse thrill toying with the plums of fantasy coaches.


Ken Hinkley does the same with Robbie Gray every week. Always named in the forward pocket. Gray always dominates everywhere!! Less mind games I suppose, but I wonder why that is.


Maccaffer Out as well. Daniel Menzel and Cockatoo named for the cats.

Average Joe

goodyear in tho


Caff wasn't going to be much of a cash cow anyway so this just makes the decision to switch him out a no brainer for his coaches now.


Well , looks like Barlow is playing in the guts do we still trade him? Its really killing me whether I should hold or trade?

Southern S

I'm keeping him for another week.

Gold Rush

Me too, screws up this week and the execution will be swift!


But its projected he will lose a ton of coin and if I go Gresham to Papley and Barlow to Zaharkis I save money and a huge increase next week if Barlow spuds again well then I trade him out next week and lose tons of coin and harder to trade. I personally am not feeling Barlow is a keeper now?

Gresham To Papley
Barlow To Zaharakis


Tough decision for sure but (if the byes concern you) how is your Essendon balance looking? I have pondered same moves but have left it at Gresham to Papley. Barlow has looked very poor this season but can't help but wait one more week. He always plays well in the Derby having won two best afield. Guess I am just hoping now 🙂


Well I just looked and Barlow BE is 174 as to Zaharakis BE is -19

Cant see Barlow reaching his BE anytime soon? More money in the Kitty Barlow avg 60 Zaharakis avg 132.50 save money and make more.


I never worry about the byes until a few weeks before and start planing then……with bringing in rookies and stuff or other players to generate cash its to hard to tell right now. I'm not going to worry about a bye week right now based on generating more cash… will drive you nuts. Just going to conserve trades as best as possible and save coin to go bang in those bye rounds to bring in premos. Going conservative early and save the trades.


gresham dropped

Southern S

Clayton Oliver and Josh Dunkley on the extended list and could also be dumped.

Average Joe

With the news that Barlow is playing on ball to start with, I think I might keep him another week and if he doesn't produce, bang


Fyfe will take his spot watch…….it will change before game time it's a smoke screen


Rocky to Hall
Barlow to Hall
Or hold

Cheers community

Average Joe

Rocky to hall

Southern S

Yeah probably Rocky to Hall at this stage.

Gold Rush

Barlow named on ball, I swear Lyon is a SC torture merchant!!!!


He was named on ball round 1 as well.


Ward and Shield named on interchange bench so the line up positions never really matter.
But my rule is if a rookie is named onfield and not on extended bench, they will certainly play.

Rick Grimes

Kane Lambert. Getting plenty of it. Will he keep it up?

Southern S

Yes? No? maybe?

Which answer do you want to hear?

Rick Grimes

Haha, the right one. Maybe a Tiges fan with some insight. Sarcastic cnuts…not so much.

Southern S

lol tiges fan will tell you that on the back of Lambert they'll actually have an impact on the top 8 and maybe win a game in finals.


where also winning the granny, Southern S

I don't think Lambert can keep in up, if you remember last year Hunt from the tigers has a great start and faded away very quickly, I can imagine Lambert having somewhat the same outcome.


Come off it Youngy Lambert is a hard bodied VFL league best fairest winning ball magnet, he has more leadership in his snot than the rest of the tigers team combined and could easily be the highest scoring tiger on brownlow night. He'll be 500k by the bye rounds (almost as good as any mid 80 points cash cow). Difference is Lambert will knock out a few 120plus amongst his low 90's.
If I was short on cash and needed a reliable M8 until the byes he'd be first choice

Southern S

I was just stirring tiges fans up!

I actually think Lambert is pretty good and won't fade like hunt.

Not sure he can be a Premo though I have more faith in Zaha so I locked him in.


Like his style, tackles & goals and on the days where he gets near 30 touches he'll go big but his mid minutes dropped a bit last week and with Edwards and Lids coming back that takes away a few more.
Would've loved to have started with him but can't trade him in now.


Barlow will stay in my team for now. Another bad spud will see him traded out next week. I am hoping he can get his act together and that he does indeed play in the guts this week. If he pumps out a decent score (120+) it would relieve the stress of having to trade him immediately and his price drop would be modest. Time will tell!

Rick Grimes

If he pulls out a 120 I'll name my first born Spud Barlow.


You're renaming Carl?

Rick Grimes

Carl could be dead?

Gold Rush

Yep, last chance!!!


So is he on your bench with the E?


I will be very tempted if tippa scores 80 + with the e on him fwd to swing barlow to bench


Is papley a must have?


That would be affirmative


No, that said he getting traded into my team.


No Tom you can have whichever players you want as long as you don't exceed the salary cap and you have exactly 30 players in your team.


-Gresham to Papley
-Harwood to Hartley


Rockliff to Papley via dpp
Harwood to JJ/Laird with 100-200k in the bank


Wait a week on Hartley. He has only played one game, so his price doesn't rise after this weekend.


Anyone else having trouble with new Supercoach app. for iphone 6 or others.
Doesn't open. Hopeless. New name "Supercrash". How many weeks out injured ?


Henry the app was shit last year too. Gaz forbid ya needed t do a trade or shift before a game. I use phone and just go thru hs website. Heaps easy


what kind of scores are we expecting from papery this week.


130 or I'm trading him. Sick of his low 100 scores. Rookies should be scoring more.


LOL ok

Southern S

300. Chuck the C on him.


Realistically 60-80, small forward scoring


Now with Barlow starting In The guts, do I trade him or Rockliff for Papley ?


Vex… Barlow started there in round 1 too..


Teams dropped shows me my first trade; Gresham –> Paps. For my second trade which would be more beneficial?
Barlow –> Blicavs
Bartel –> JJ
Barlow –> JJ

I like the Blicavs option as a POD, and someone I can swing to my rucks when it is convenient. Even if that swing doesn't happen, him averaging 110+ will solidify him as a keeper in my mids. Am worried about Bartel's performances so far, almost more so than Barlow's.


Stupid trades in my opinion, these are classed as SIDE WAYS TRADES which is crazy. I would be keeping Bartel & Barlow. However good luck what ever you chose to do.


After a good sleep I've come around and agree with you and will be holding both for this week. However if Barlow's role stays as it has the first 2 rounds he will be chopped next week, sideways trades are sometimes necessary. I agree that trading Bartel for JJ is the definition of chasing points and I thank you for your opinion on the matter.


Blicavs is reasonable to trade into the ruck but not the middle, for an extra 20k you can get Parker and earn a few more points. unless you have leuey lobbe or a real dud in the rucks ride it out. Goldy Martin Jacobs and all premo rucks have low averages at the moment, we expected 120's but they're delivering 90's. If you're rucks are ave 75-80 that's only 20-25 points less than goldy and if goldy was ave 125 and your starter rucks 100 you'd be very happy so why not be happy with the same ave difference just lower numbers?
Might be 1 too many end of week beers in that.


True, maybe i got overexcited about Blicavs swing ability. Tempted to now give Barlow another week to prove himself.


can someone explain to me how they are trading Gresham to papley via DPP it may be obvious but i cant figure it out for some reason


don't worry i just read a previous comment

Dillon Panthers

No worries mark, Gresham out – menadue/kerridge/benKen from the fwd line into the midfield via their DPP swing opening up a fwd position and boom thanking your mother for the rabbits in you slide Pap smear.


yeah thanks didn't realize you could swap during a trade that's handy to know. i would have wasted a trade going milera to papley if i hadn't have found out


hit the trade button on Gresham and then you will see "S" against the fwd line players who can be swapped into the mids. Choose one of them to "S" into your mids then trade Gresham to papley.

Dillon Panthers

Is it worth bringing in Darcy Parish for Gresham now that hes been omitted? JS should be solid I would've thought …

Southern S



Just did that- need the big scoring rookies in before price rise

Dillon Panthers

Thanks chaps. Any thoughts on my squad as a whole?

Shaw Laird Simpson – Brown M
Weits Dea Adams – Tippa

Fyfe Ablett Rockliff (holding) -Parish
Parker Wines Libba – Dunkley
Mills Kerridge – Davis

Goldy Nic Nat – Grimley

Barlow (holding) Greene Hall – Menadue
Wells Kennedy Papley – McCarthy

11k 28 trades

Southern S

Looks like a solid foundation for a good 2016.

I'd probably chuck parish on field instead of mills this week, but anything can happen with rookie scoring.

Dillon Panthers

thanks SS might just do that the Giants are travelling quite a bit better than port atm maybe easier for Parish.

What's ur team name?

Southern S

I'm too ashamed at my poor rank to state my team's name at the moment. Will (hoping to) bounce back strong with lots of cows fattening.

Took a lot of risks this year and some have paid off while others not so much, was to be expected. Still taking a big risk by locking in Zaha for rockliff.

Here's my team after trading Rocky and Steele (Papley) out this week.

Shaw, Laird, JJ, Sheridan, Wheat, Adams (Dea, Brown)

Danger, Ablett, Zaha, M Crouch, Libbe , B Crouch, Mills, Kerridge (Hewett, Menadue, Davis)

Tic Tac, Gawn (King)

Barlow, Hall, De Goey, Wells, Kennedy, Pap (Tipu, McCarthy)

765k in warchest.

Dillon Panthers

Boy oh boy wowee!!! That's some serious coin for upgrading!! So far I'm in the top 1% and finished last year in there. I like the safe reliable dependable path hence mine has a bit of cookie cutter about it but I just hate inconsistent scoring. Have been beaten too many times by mates that have average sides but one or two players have days out. Really grinds my gears!!! Hope ur cows fatten coz I've pretty much got the same!!

Good luck for the year!

Southern S

Cheers. Yeah I'm not worried about my rank I wanted to try something different, and just wipe out some mates in the finals.

That 765k won't last long though, but it does mean I can pick off fallen premos and get exactly who I want, when I want.

Good Luck mate I reckon you'll have a solid year.

Southern S

Going for league wins and large profit, not overall score. Thought I'd mention that.

I'm not chasing points with Zaha I honestly think he can average 100-110 and be a keeper.

Even got the Vice captain on him against port tomorrow night.

Dillon Panthers

I like Zaha I hope he has a good year. Someone's gotta get the pill for Essendon I think he's the main man! Yeah I just wanna win my leagues and I'd like to crack the top 1000. Got close last year






Tich but if you don't have Parker or Zaharakis think you might go with one of them much cheaper and score just as well.


Both spuds


Gday community. Considering going Rocky and Gresham to BenKen and Papley, only two rookies I lack, who are poised to make tonnes of cash.

Having second thoughts about this because this would leave me with a tonne of cash, 455k, which I could use to go to any sub 560k player eg. JJ, Zaha, Parker, Merrett.

tl;dr- Take Papley, who's JS is up in the air and a tonne of cash in the kitty or a good looking cheaper premo with around 40-100k left depending on who.


Don't second guess mate they are AWESOME trades. Next week or week after upgrade a rookie that isn't doing well to a elite premo.

You must get Kennedy and even Papley mate.


Irresistible trades. Fingers crossed Paps can keep up the scoring and stay in the side.


Rocky or Barlow to Papley?


Barlow… sure to lose cash Rocky wont and you can loophole rocky


Go Gresham to Papley its a no brainer, that is exactly what I am doing. Good luck mate.


Gresham to Papley Rocky to Parker


There ya go! Nothing wrong with that!


I went Zaharkis save more money and generate more money

Baggy Pants

I'm still trading Barlow I checked his scores from last year and from his last 26 games he has only scored over 100 on ten occasions that's approximately 40% of the time, and with more time in the forward line this could drop further.


If Barlow gets over 110 in the middle and Fyfe is left in the forward line and scores bugger all , the community jet will be straight over to Freo to deal with you ROSS THE TOSS


I'm betting Fyfe goes to follower and Barlow goes somewhere else in the field…..dont think Barlow will be in the guts always changes….smoke screen….cant trust rossy


It will be a lottery mate. Who bloody knows with Ross. As I suspect, Barlow will probably get some mid time, but probably not as much as we hope. Fyfe will just roam through the midfield and hopefully kick a few goals. Fyfe will be my captain if R.Gray for some reason does not live up to expectations tomorrow night as VC.

I just expect a friggin better effort from Barlow this week. He is on his last legs. The magic number for me is 90. If he scores north of 90, he stays, if he scores south of 90, he is gone.


You have to remember, freos big 3 all score 61 the first week


Ahhhhhh I feel so good now. I was planning to trade Gresham for Papley. I had some reservations that it may have been a rookie sideways trade or even a wasted one. Not anymore! The Gresh has been dropped. Gotta love it. With Paps I now have all the key rooks.

So, now I can trade out Rocky with confidence to Robbie Gray. Will probably whack the VC on him tomorrow night and enjoy the game with a few quiet bourbons!



Nice tophawk I did the same!


Cheers mate. At least we have something to look forward to now. Port vs Bombers isn't exactly a blockbuster, but all eyes will be on Robbie Gray, the new Rolls Royce in Adelaide. Guy is a gun.


Well I'm lying a little bit I went Zaharkis not Gray …… Zaharkis less money and will generate more money. But basically the same ideology.



if I had another $2.5k I would do the same! well I might need $2.6 so I have $100 left over for a bottle of wild turkey, a pizza and a bottle of coke. Good luck mate … solid trades!


Hahahaha. Wow, a $100 bucks for a bottle of Wild Turkey, Coke, and pizza? Of course! Need the one aged 15 years…Gotta have good taste.

Just bank the cash, save a trade, or go Rocky to Parker instead if you don't have him already.

Cheers mate.


Brook what your team look like?


DEF: Shaw, Laird, Rich, TMcK, Dea, Adams (Brown, ATM)
MID: Danger, GAJ, Priddis, Ward, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Kerridge (Gresh, Hewett, Davis)
RUC: NicNat, Gawn (Grimley)
FWD: Wingard, Barlow, Hall, Wells, BKen, Menadue (McG, Petracca)

Thinking of the following trades:
Gresham -> Papley
Rich -> JJ (just can't have him in my side after that 36!)
Rocky -> Gray/Pendles (next week)

Leaves me a few points short this week but should set me up well for premo upgrades from R7-11. Currently around 15000 mark and play mostly for rank (was top 1000 last year).


Anyone else not able to reverse trades atm. Did they take that option away this year.


Yep, no reverse trades this year Mick! What have you done?

Just joking ;-P


On the left side of your screen. It's called reverse changes

Southern S

Actually wells is up there too.


hello community and jock
do we think that gresham to hewitt is worth it to get in robbie gray for tom rockliff


No…..Papley to Gresham and rock into gray


i already have papley


Just want some thoughts about this: 3 options
1- Gresham to Parish and Hold Barlow
2- Gresham to Parish and Barlow to Parker
3 – Gresham to McGovern (Adel) and Barlow to Ablett

Thanks community


I like 2


None, parish and mcgovern arent must have and not worth a trade. Plenty of other rookies playing which can be traded in if gres doesnt win his spot back in coming weeks via dpp. Understand barlow to ablett but not really barlow to parker. Dont believe parker is top 10 mid and you may have already missed his largest score for the year


Thoughts re midprice madness community.

Kane Lambert MID/FWD $330K

I'm debating about bringing him – he's getting a ton of time in the middle for the tigers. POD?


Ive considered and like ………….but not doing it…..I actually had him in my side before the season started but took him out wish I hadn't but oh well what are you going to do now?

Rick Grimes

I straight swapped him for Steele. He's good for 80+ most games I would think, and can easily go 100+ with the midfield time he's getting. Hoping he can be a decent f7/m9 by finals.


Alright Community, I've narrowed the decision down to two options:

1. Barlow > Paps & Rocky > Gray (stash the $350k and use it next round to upgrade McKenzie down back)


2. Rocky > Dusty Martin & Gresham > Papley via DPP (stick fat with Barlow for at least another week and wear the price drop in the hope that he comes good as the top 6 FWD we all hoped he'd be)



Think Barlow is a thing of the past people hoping…..he's the R. Griffin like last yr and we know what happen there


I've gone your first option. Points are good, cash gens good. Prob more trades used than ideal but you still have flexibility in coming weeks with extra cash.


def 2 … option 1 uses three trades and your team will still have the same number of premos. option uses less trades for better overall result IMO


Rocky to Martin, Zorko, Cripps or Merritt?

Cheers guys and gals


Zorko the Magnificent!


Hey guys, looking for some feedback.

My mid rookies are gresh, davis & dunkley. Got a feeling Dunkley will be dropped a long with gresh.

Should I do a sideways trade of gresh > hewett? Or just sit on it now with the hope dunks and gresh come back in the future.

I have all the other rookies in my team.

Thanks for the advice guys!


Just cant decide on the following prospective trade options:

1. Rocky -> R.Gray

2. Rocky -> R.Gray

3. Rocky -> R.Gray

I think ill go with option 2


I think you should go 3rd option seems much better!

ball swing

what with the silly comments??? youre wasting everyones time!!! option 1 by far.


Option 4-> Rocky to Jobe Watson 🙂


Barlow named in the middle are people thinking he will bounce back or do a griffen


No think its a Ross Lyons smoke screen…. come game time Fyfe will be put in that spot and move Barlow somewhere else?


Fyfe will be the follower for sure. Be surprised if he wasn't after last weeks 157

Southern S

Didn't train due to the corked thigh, might play a bit forward.

Southern S

They still didn't win though. They need to be more dangerous up forward, barlow doesn't work there, but he's good in the middle. I see a swap happening.


Good evening community!

Currently have:

DEF: Shaw, Rich, Hurn, Lonergan, Dea, Adams (McD-Tippa, Brown)
MID: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Rocky, Libba, BCrouch, Mills, Menadue (Hewitt, Gresham, Davis)
RUCK: Goldy, Martin (Loersch)
FWD: Barlow, Hall, De Goey, Wells, Kerrige, Kennedy (Papley, McCarthy)

Have 320k in the bank, and looking at moving on De Goey (weakest midpricer) and Rocky (soft tissue injury)

Currently thinking of going Ablett and Parker, swinging Menadue.

Any thoughts for or against… Or any other suggestions for two players up to $1.16m