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The Round 3 Cheat Sheet

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Supercoach 2016 midpriced forwardsWhat an INCREDIBLE week of trade conundrums we have here community!

We’ve got Barlow.. does he stay or does he go? Rockliff.. and who to get in for him.. ROOKIES! Which ones MUST we lock away into our teams before it’s too late?

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Bobby Singh

I've got some trading problems. I have a few trades in mind including:
• Bartel to JJ.
• Rocky upgrade/downgrade.
• Gresham to Parish/Kennedy.

Which two do you think are the most efficient? Who would be an upgrade and downgrade target for Rockliff? Also, should I go Parish or Kennedy if I was to complete that trade?

Paul

Kennedy. Tackles, kicks goals and mature body. Parish is going to have good games, but he's a skinny kid shouldering a lot of load. He's going to get tired and be more inconsistent over time.

Pinidu

I think you should wipe the Bartel to JJ trade of that list Bobby. It's a useless sideways trade. Bartel is neither injured or severely out of form and I am still not satsfied about JJ, his first two games were massive wins for the Bulldogs and they are yet to play strong opposition, also, he hasn't got some lockdown attention yet.

The other two trades should be prioritised.

Bobby Singh

Rocky to Parker?

Pinidu

That's what I'm doing, I just hope dearly that Parker continues his stellar form.

Jackson

Bartel to JJ.
Rockliff to Kennedy.
Bang Bang. Welcome.

JamiesNinjas13

I think Parish will gain more than benken as the year goes on (think Joel Selwood, skinny frame 2007).
But short term cash gain its a no brainer to choose kennedy over parish.

Anth

In short, which out of the following 4 options?:

1) Barlow -> Johanissen, Rockliff -> Gray
2) Rockliff -> Parker, Keep Barlow
3) Jacobs -> Natanui, Rockliff -> Gray
4) Keep both Rocky and Barlow

Reasoning:

I have Rockliff and want to get rid of him as I don't see him playing enough games to warrant keeping him in the team.
I want to trade him to Gray, but to do that I need to generate some cash.

Now I was lucky enough to have all the required rookies in my starting line up, so pretty much the only way to generate enough cash is to trade a premium.

Which brings me to Barlow, by trading him to Johanissen it allows me to go Rockliff to Gray.

Is it worth using the trades to bring in both Gray and Johanissen, or to keep Barlow and trade Rockliff to someone like Parker? The other premium I'm worried about is Jacobs, but don't want to trade him (unless I go him to NicNat).

Rod

Keep both. If you selected well to start with you will have reasobaqle cover. Worst thing will be to get rid of either one and your premo replacement only delivers a 50

Jock

If you had trouble downloading her before she's up now folks!

Anth

You are all a bunch of legends, thanks Jock.

Damon Bisetto

is Ben Kennedy a must to get in?

JamiesNinjas13

Him and papley should be everyones priorities in terms of cash generation

Crowmagnon

yes. if you can get him with 1 trade.

Dee

yes yes and yes….

Crane

I say no – but I have Papley, Hewett, Kerridge, Wells – so no room for him

Zambo

Is the Pope Catholic?

Jye

Also had Blicavs in my team pretty much all preseason Lek.. the pain, oh the pain. Pretty tempted to trade him into my mids for Rocky and then trade him into R2 later in the season (currently have sinclair there as a stepping stone)… Thoughts? Risky, considering I could just bring in an ultra premo for Rocky…

Jye

If I went for it though I would most likely be sacrificing bringing in Goldy later as R2. Unless I ended up just keeping Blicavs as a M7/M8 hmm…

OldOcker

Jye, You have been reading my mind, I have been thinking all week about the same thing.
I went into this season with no Ruck backup and he could be the answer.

Jye

Definitely could be a goer. POD too.
How would you use him as ruck cover via DPP though?

OldOcker

No DPP for him but if either of my Ruck's went down I could trade one out and move Blicav's in and get a Gun Mid to replace him. Just a bit of security for the Ruck position whilst his scoring is nearing Premo Mid anyway.
He is a great Ruck choice and I currently have Goldy and Jacobs who are generally injury free and play 21-22 games.

Jye

Very nice, like the thinking

Nathan

Your still trading though? Not sure of this logic

Jye

As in still trading Rocky? Yeah pretty sure I will be

OldOcker

Just thinking of trading Rocky and Blicav's is a genuine option for a replacement.

Nathan

That's fine- no what I mean is the swing option if a ruck goes down- if that happens and you sub B down to rucks then your still trading for a gun Mid. If that's the logic then I don't get it- also for 30k more you can get Sam Mitchell

Sana

Yeah agree. If you still have to trade when a ruck goes down ie. Bring in another premo mid for injured ruck, its not really backup is it? Might as well grab Blicavs then when/if it happens.

Phil

This here to me fellas seems like what Jock was alluding to yesterday on his podcast. Sometimes people's think it's a smart trade when it sounds all fancy ie switching players from 1 position to another. But the bottom line is do you think Blicavs will end up either top2 ruck or top8 midfielder?? Because my bet is Goldstein, NicNat, Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Danger, Gray, Parker, Priddis & Hannerbry will have him covered.

DadSmasher

Excellent pickup Jye. What a lot of people aren't factoring in to their ruck calculations is the reduction in boundary throw ins/ stoppages. Less throw ins means less point scoring opportunities for rucks. Goldy Jacobs SMartin haven't had bad games they've played equally as well as usual they've just had less opportunities to score hitout points.

Jye

So true! Great thought.

Sana

Are you expecting Blicavs to increase it price significantly? And avg as much as a premo mid? If not this move seems pointless. It's not ruck back up unless you can swap them in without using a trade, which you can't without also getting a mid/ruck for your ruck bench? Why not wait until a ruck goes down/you are ready to trade Sinclair and assess whether Blicavs is a good choice. IMO he's only a consideration in the ruck position long term.

Jordan

blicavs, parker or papley (via)

Paul

I traded out Barlow and Oliver in favour of Papley and Aaron Hall (via a DPP to for/mid). Have 200k in the bank now. Next goal is to turn Kreuzer into Goldstein. Will probably take another downgrade/upgrade, but looks like Goldy will drop a bit over the next few weeks.

Rick Grimes

Your Rocky advice seems to contradict the flow charts of a couple of days ago. Not saying your are wrong mind you.

Personally I'm benching him and using the useful loophole he creates. Two weeks is the max I will carry him tho.
Also holding Barlow for one final look. If he spuds up again it's straight to the deep fryer.

Steele is out of my team for Papley.
L McDonald up to Gibson (want one more look at JJ).

These guys I punted would average 80+ fro the season but they haven't paid off.

Dan

Gibson is shit waste of a trade your getting sucked in

Rick Grimes

Don't think he'll be top 6 defender champ? Reckon you've been on the Good stuff.

Hayley

Super annoyed that I'm about 10k away from a straight swap of Barlow to Parker. Started with all of the Green blokes (except Blicavs, but I have Goldstein and Nic Nat in there). Don't know if I should bother with a downgrade somewhere else to get Parker in or go for a different option.

ATM I have:

JJ, Laird, Adams, Shaw, Weitering, Sheridan (Dea, AMT)
Zaharakis, Gazza, Dangerfield, Libba, Cripps, Shiel, Mills, Barlow (Hewett, Davis, Gresham)
Nic Nat, Goldstein (Loersch)
Hall, Kennedy, Wells, Papley, Buddy, Kerridge (Menadue, Milera)

fatboyfat7

Save your trades, too early to feck Barlow off imo. Thats a very strong team at this stage but if were that desperate to get Parker in for Barlow, I'd downgrade Sheridan to a Hartley and pocket a little cash in the meantime.

Hayley

If Barlow stinks it up again he'll drop 40k in a week, and they're playing West Coast, so I can't imagine he'll have a lot of luck in that midfield battle.

Trading out Sheridan isn't a great idea. Break even of 57. He's going to make money at least this week. Hartley has still played only the 1 game, so can consider that next week.

fatboyfat7

So if Barlow does get his scores together do you plan on trading him back in later? If you picked him as a keeper at the start of the season like I did then I would suggest holding for now. 40k isn't worth burning trades if you have to put him back in. There's been talk of Freo structure changing and Bennell isn't looking like being back anytime soon so there's now way of knowing how Barlow will go. It's your decision what you do but I'm only putting my thoughts out there.
As for Sheridan, no guarantee he'll make any money, cant remember exactly but did he even break 60 last week? Either way, cant see him generating significant enough money or being a keeper so as I said, if you really are desperate for Parker, thats where I'd get the cash!
Anyways, all only my opinion, if we all thought and did the same it would be a bloody boring game! Best of luck with it!

fatboyfat7

Brown instead of Hartley too is an option, he'll make more cash than Sheridan imo

Hayley

But Brown is likely to score 25, especially against a team that is half decent. Pass.

fatboyfat7

He's avg 57 from first 2 games. That would be about 170k he'll increase if he plays to that average. Sheridan would have to score about 110 average to generate you the same…?

Hayley

Yeah, against Gold Coast and Melbourne, 2 bottom 4 teams from last year. Against a top 8 team, there isn't a lot Essendon defenders are going to be able to do. Especially the ones playing on the best forwards.

Hayley

And Sheridan isn't in there to make lots of money. He's in there to score lots of points, something you can't expect from an Essendon top up player.

mick

sheridan only played 2 and half q add that to 55 and it becomes around 80 lets see this week if 70 or less hes axed

Southern S

Sheridan got hurt during the game, he didn't under perform.

He's not on the injury list so good to go.

Sean

This question has been done to death but now for some final thoughts…

Are you holding, trading or keeping Barlow and Rockliff and why?

Dice

Holding Rockliff.
Trading Barlow & Bartel out for Johannisen & Hall.
May trade Rockliff next week, depending on the rookie's score replacing Rockliff for this week.
Thinking carefully about Rockliff – i'm 100% sure he'll bounce back this year, just a matter of when.
Think it'll be sooner rather than later

fatboyfat7

Holding Barlow – waiting to see if Freo's structure changes like Ross Lyon suggests. Bennell also looking a little ways off returning (AFL twitter comment today quoting Ross Lyon) I'll give Barlow a week or twp to step up and turn it around.

Trading Rockcliff – Was so close to not starting him this year and wish I listened to myself. No preseason, and coming back from injury. No faith in his body and he's been spending way too much time up forward. He might bounce back but I can't see it happening til post byes if at all.

derek

Keeping Barlow – not injured

Before i heard about Wingard being out this week, i was keeping Rocky. Now i am in panic mode worried about too many rookies onfield.

Matt

I'm going Barlow to papley to generate cash which allows me to go Rocky to R Gray. I think gray will be a top 6 mid and i have $350k left over for some early upgrades elsewhere.

IMO JJ and Parker won't keep up their current form and will be inconsistent

fatboyfat7

Looking at Rocky to Gray too but I wonder is Gray performing to his maximum now? Port have a reasonable start so I wonder if he'll keep the scoring up. Having the V on him against Essendon is very appealing though…

Matt

He averaged 110 and 111 in the last two years even with two injury/concussion affected scores last year. I'm bringing him in as i won't have to worry about his output each week

fatboyfat7

Yep very true. And I just read his DE was only at 48% and he still managed 129. If he sorts that out…

Crowmagnon

Barlow to Robbie for me too.

Mister_Spock

Thinking of doing the same Matt. The only hesitation I have is having the $350k but no cash cows for a few weeks to upgrade. Will prob end up upgrading McKenzie down back next week tho

CoachDamo

Holding Rockliff for now. Brisbane play the last match of the Round so I'll look at other options first and play Menadue as an Emergency in the midfield – that might mean the trade can wait a week.

MaccasMarvels

I think I will hold both, and be content to have 30 trades left at the end of this round. HOWEVER, Rocky to Parker is tempting. Worried about that calf injury, lack of preseason etc.

Swans2012

I don't think I can resist rocky to Parker, I normally dodge the swan mids as it runs so dam deep but just looked over Parkers 2014 scores again, and if that's where he's heading, and feels like he is, I want on

fatboyfat7

Didn't start with him myself but If you had Leunberger shouldn't you be holding for another few weeks I would have thought? Scoring to about his price while other premo rucks look destined to drop. Surely there's much better value hanging on a week or two and picking up Goldy or Gawn cheaper? Slightly off topic, but IIRC the rucks in general didn't start off to strongly last year either, wonder why this is?

derek

agree. I went with The lobbe for the same reason. expecting him not to drop while the Goldmember did. I really have to hold on for 3 more weeks

Phil

I've got leuy in my FWD line and he is just killing me. I started him as a POD as Essendon had a very good early draw for ruckman but it hasn't worked. I'd love to give him another go this week against Derek's boy Lobbe, but someone has to make way for Papley. I would have started Papley but I took him out for Ubergang, a cheap B/F to loophole with Adams, Brown & McT.

fatboyfat7

Thats a bit different Phil, I was more thinking if you had him at R2. If he's in your forwards then i'd be chopping him too.

Pinidu

Trades this week:
Rockliff –> Parker
Mills –> Kennedy
(Getting rid of Mills is my only way of getting Ben Kennedy who has a BE of -110 and is a must have, Mills BE is -14)

Thoughts?

JamiesNinjas13

That was my initial thoughts too Pinidu. However its a waste to trade out Mills since he is scoring good and will become even better.
Do Rockliff to Kennedy instead, bank the cash and you can use it to get into another 2 cheap potential keepers next round (ie. JJ or Hall).

Pinidu

Yea, I like your logic James. I've already got Hall but I'm not yet sold on JJ. It's definitely a long term solution…i will suffer short term pain but long term gain. Although, I'm wary of breaking the SC rule: only trade out a premium….for another premium.

Southern S

Getting rid of mills is not your only option. Rocky> Benken and pocket cash.

Then you keep mills who is profiting steadily and you lose an injured player. Doing both trades is just stupid.

Dee

Agreed….. you gotta HOLD Mills.

HOLLA

I dont have Papley or Adams yet. I also have rocky and barlow. Am i stuffed if i use 2 trades from premos down to rookies.? Would mean if i do so id have to go 2 up next week so i dont have 800k+ sitting the doing stuff all. Suggestions please.

Jye

Yeah probably wouldn't suggest that mate, 1 premo down to rookie at most.

HOLLA

Thanks for your input jye. So i guess its a case of whos the better rookie and who has to go out of rocky and barlow.

Jye

Can't go one premo down to one of the rookies, and then sideways trade to bring the other rookie in?
Another thought is just holding both and correcting 2 rookies to papley and adams – lekdog has said he's holding both barlow and rocky

HOLLA

Umm lekdog also barracks for carlton…

Chill

Holla, I don't envy your situation. I think going from premo down to 2 rookies isnt ideal. I would take Adams and just forget Papley every existed.

HOLLA

Yep and thats just the tip of the shitpile Chill. Went rocky to parker barlow to adams. Next week yeo to zorko and mckenzie to JJ, if they stink it up again that is.

Chill

Ahh dear. If it makes you feel better I am holding Barlow, Billings and Suckling for now. Bloody spuds.

HOLLA

Nope not one bit haha

Southern S

You may be stuffed you may not.

Rocky is worthless for the next two weeks+ so that's 550k doing nothing anyway.

Adams is an absolute must have and will get you 160+ points over the next two weeks hopefully, plus gain a heap of cash.

Barlow might make you 180 points over the next two weeks but the way he is going I say it's doubtful.

Papley might get you 140+ points over the next two weeks, and make a heap of cash.

To me 2016 is the year of taking risks and having some money in the bank while the cows fatten.

ball swing

do it mate… trade down to the 2 rookies… and how is having 800K in the bank a waste???

with rookies going up in price each week in 2-3 weeks that measly 800K you are referring to will be worth 3 prems or roughly 1.5 million.

Do it buddy!!!

I cant do it coz I have all the right rookies so im def getting rid of the glass cannon Rocky for a premo mid and barlow for JJ in def.

Tom

dumb question but just wondering how I can use Rockliff as a loophole? I have Menadue, Hewett, Davis and Gresham with 2 of them on field

derek

you put Rocky on the field plus the one rookie you think will score the best (lets say Gresham) you are committed to him now.

You put the emergency on one of either Menadue or Hewett.

if you selected menadue, and he scores really well, you are done. Leave Rocky on the field and you will get menadue's score.

If menadue spuds, you then get to choose between Davis or hewett as a second bite. If you think davis will do better than menadue, you swap Rocky with davis, therefore getting davis score.

derek

i've got Keays as my loophole. it worked really well the first week and i was able to get kennedys score, the second week i decided that Gresham could do better than Menadues score. oh well.

Kimmyd

Interesting choice given that menadue scored 80 Gresham about 40. Menadue admittedly only got 60 odd but I watched Gresham in round 1 and he was terrible, lucky to still be picked for round 2. Not expecting him to score over 60 which is why I punted him last week for papley

fatboyfat7

Also works with the captain score. Using this week as an example:

Leave Rocky on the pitch. Brisbane play last v Geelong.
Put the Vice Captain on someone you think might go big, eg; Robbie Gray v Essendon Friday night. Put the Captain on Rockcliff.

If Gray goes big, leave it as is. Rockcliff will not play. Emergency comes in. Captaincy does not transfer to Emergency. You will score double for Vice Captain.

If Gray is rubbish, select a different captain after the Friday night game.

It gives you 2 shots at the captain score.

Abracadabra

Seems as though most people are getting parker in for rocky this week. Any other mid pod options? Also lekdog..what do you think about barlow to zorko?

Chill

Robbie Gray. Also no one talking about Jordan Lewis, 108 and 115 to start the season.

derek

Hodge is out for a few more week, could be a bold selection

Southern S

Tommy Mitchell

DDJ

BENNELL OUT FOR ATLEAST ANOTHER MONTH!

Should we still be holding Barlow in this case? Does this mean he's stuck in the forward line until Bennell's return?

I'm thinking if he's named as a forward when the teams are announced that he is no longer worth the risk and should be traded as Higgo's chart suggests, what do you reckon community?

northernsoul74

Just got to wait until teams drop I think then deal with it. Barlow may be dropped from the Freo team altogether regardless of Bennells situation. Some people are taking Ross Lyons comments as Barlow goes back in midfield, some think hes suggesting there is no place at all for him anymore.

ball swing

thats it barlow aint best 22 anymore… not with lyons long term contract. and if bennell is out for longer then nothings going to change- hence barlows scoring is unlikely to change. as crouch would say "tell him to pi'' off"

The Mountain

Rocky out – Libba in
Barlow out – Hanners in via DPP

Good trade? a touch under 100K in the kitty but this puts 5 ultra premos in the mid plus l.hunter and Libba as my two mid pricers

Chill

i like it.

Danners

Good trades, Libba is a must

BloodyFranklin

Wingard out?

Sparrow

HOLD! He'll come good. Got him too

BloodyFranklin

Nah I don't have him bruv.

… I just like to contribute 😀

hedski

Have rethought my strategy and have decided on
Rocky to Fyfe
Gresham to Papley
Team is

Shaw Gibbo Smith (Brown)
Adams Weits Dea (Ruggles)

Danger Fyfe Gazza (Menadue)
Gray Parker Libba (Davis)
Kerridge Mills (Petracca)

Goldy Gawn (Loersch)

Barlow Hall S.Gray (Tippa)
Wells BenKen Papley (McCarthy)

Going to give Spudlow another crack and keep a close eye on JJ this week, possible switch next week.
VC will be on Robbie Gray to go big against ess.
Thoughts community? Cheers

Chill

That's a lovely looking team Heds. I'm jealous. And Ruggles just got elevated FYI.

The Ranger

Can't argue with those trades Hedski

hedski

Thanks ranger figured there was no point muckin around just bang teen wolf in I had the cash from sidey to libba last week

hedski

Cheers chill figured he'd get upgraded early he's been a handy loophole too with the cats and suns (loersch) playing lots of late sat/sun games.

fatboyfat7

I understand trading Rocky but maybe consider holding off on Fyfe another week. Looks like a good chance of dropping in value. I could be wrong but check his BE first…

hedski

His be is @170 I think. He might drop $20-25k but I want his points.

Lazy_Simmo

Love that team Hedski. Absolute beauty and go bang bang on those trades. Whats your overall position?

hedski

Hey simmo im @5600
Have burnt 4 trades but necessary I feel for consolidation.
Will keep that itchy finger on the missus for the next few weeks and wait for calves. Reckon I've got an ok platform to start from.

ball swing

4 trades already??? OUCH

why wait on barlow to JJ another week?? JJ is going to go up and barlow going to come down PLUS another trade to make it 5 trades.

The price changes for one week will make it the equivalent of 1.5 trades worth.

Hold on Fyfe who will drop in price and get JJ before he rises in price and barlow drops in price which is a double hit.

Your team looks good… but good for a team that started that way… not so good for a team that has used 4 trades already.

My team aint great but 3600 overall with zero trades made so far aint bad either.

hedski

I think rocky to fyfe is solid.
Want paps he'll make $ over gresh.
As I said earlier Barlow and jj can wait a week not necessarily gonna do that so 4 trades done.

northernsoul74

Like a lot of people I have Barlow and Rocky, but dont have Papley or Kennedy (currently still holding Petracca). I'll likely go Barlow to Kennedy and Rocky to R Gray and forget Papley ever existed.
I could trade Barlow to Papley and Rocky to Kennedy and look to upgrade over the next few weeks.
Or Barlow to Kennedy and Petracca to Papley and worry about Rocky next week. Leaves me very weak for a week though.

SCaddict

The way BenKen and Paps have started the season they could come close to matching whatever premo replacement you bring in instead, whilst making you a huge chunk of coin in the process.

It's not like you are bringing in some weak ass defensive rookie who may have gotten a vest in seasons past. These guys have been pumping out tons!

I'm sure you won't have much trouble finding awesome things to do with that huge war chest either.

Northernsoul74

The double down grade is tempting giving me a huge war chest but will be 2 planned keepers down. Food for thought, thanks for the advice.

Southern S

People are afraid to have a war chest I came into the season with 743k in the bank and it's working out just fine.

hedski

I'm giving Barlow a week and concentrating on rocky out paps in. Im holding petracca will play soon and great maneuverability/loopholing. Having said that petracca won't make you coupla hundred $k next few weeks. Could get paps for him now trade him back in on the bubble in a month.

Southern S

So trade petracca out, then in, then out again after he's made some cash? No way that's SC suicide.

If people hadn't started with a non-playing rookie they wouldn't be in this pickle. Live and learn I guess.

ball swing

hahaha SC suicide you say???

SC suicide is doing what youre doing by keeping a NPR on the bench who WONT play for possibly 2 months.

BenKen and Pap are MUST HAVES. If you dont know that then youre only new to the game. They are averaging 100 over the first 2 weeks… how can you even think they are wasted trades has me bemused.

Rick Grimes

Never said they did. Just pointing out that some of the SC Gods preach a very different ethos. Personally I'll back Rocky to get back to his best in a short turnaround. That's also a risk, and now a free POD.

panther

i've got tommy rockliff and want to offload him to a POD, who are the best POD's to get thoughts would be very helpful
-lewis
-tom mitchell
-prestia
-treloar
-neale
-murphy
-scott thompson

BloodyFranklin

Titch IMO.

fatboyfat7

^ agree. Just check how the byes fit in with your team. I'd be putting Tom Mitchell in my team but already have Hanners, Parker and Mills on field with Hewett on the bench.

panther

not to worried about the byes yet, and how much mid time is titch getting

Southern S

Titch is an absolute ball magnet, always gets mid time.

Crowmagnon

I wish I had the testicular fortitude to bring in Titch. Gun.

JamiesNinjas13

Titch by a mile if he performs the way he is in the past 2 weeks.
He had the most centre clearences, stoppages, inside 50s for the swans last week which shows he is spending potentialy the most time in the midfield out of all the sydney players (well the most effective in the middle that is lol).

DadSmasher

Do you already have Parker? If not he's a safer option than mitchell as mitchell is sometimes given a defensive midfield role

alex

Hold saint Nick?

Cheers commuity

Rick Grimes

No longer SC relevant.

Danners

Saint Nick should be held for now

Adam

Scored 2402 last ranked top 500 overall
This week im looking hard at barlow to zorko ?
And hoping Rosa is Back
And hoping Wingards ok
Thaughts please

BloodyFranklin

Wingard out apparently.

Davonaise

Yeah they can't risk this guy

mark

I'm holding wingard its just a week

james
james

who do i start in my defence this week
cutler, dea, or tipungwuti

current DEF – houli laird sheridan weltering adams (then either 1 of the three above)

Southern S

I'm thinking tippa for some reason.

Holty

Dea

Stewy_the_Swan

Dea for me

Benjamima Puddleduck

Cutler, someone has to stand up for the lions this week, half the team is on holidays again.

clubber lang

what to do with lobbe?

Holty

he does have essendon this week. But this was always the problem with Lobbe, if he was to not perform, you cant trade him to anyone as he isnt worth enough. Only thing i can suggest is if you have a midpricer you are not happy with, trade them for a rookie which should give you enough to trade out lobbe for a premium.

Southern S

Cull. I bet Luen beats him in the hitouts this week.

People probably think this is Lobbe's week but I don't think it's ever his week honestly. Upgrade to a premo ruck now.

clubber lang

D: Shaw, Birchall, Johannisen, Seeedsman, Weitering, Adams (dea, mbrown)
M: Albert, Fyfe, Pendlebury, Parker, Priddis, BKennedy, Mills, Hewett (menadue, gresham, davis)
R: Naitanui, Lobbe (wyatt)
F: Wingard, Barlow, Stringer, Taylor, Wells, Kerridge (mccarthy, mcdonald-tipungwuit)

seedsman has been disappointing but ill stick with him a few more weeks
lobbe was my main concern
will trade out barlow for papley
then i can upgrade lobbe to any ruck
my only concern is those premo rucks (goldy, gawn blicavs) can be snapped up cheaper in a few weeks
i was hoping good ol' lobbe would go up a tad and make some moolah

…i pity the fool

BloodyFranklin

Can you get Blicavs?

Danners

Do what Jock did with Rockliff in the podcast

baggy pants

Pendlebury playing with cracked ribs. AFL website

Jojo

Would rocky to Ben Kennedy be a smart trade I'm currently ranked in the 600's and I don't want to waste trades

BloodyFranklin

Gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

BigHaydos

I think this is a good trade purely based on the cash generation

ball swing

awesome bro… yeah that trade is a must!!!

also you may not even need to trade until round 5 or 6 when rookies are fattening up and puts you in a great position.

leviathan

Harley Bennell appears to be out for a significant amount of time with an ongoing calf injury. (AFL website) Looks like Barlow's JS has just been assured for the time being.

Northernsoul74

Job security as a forward is a disaster.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Might end up losing out on the season, Look at mitch clarke last year

Sparrow

Haven't got Libba… yet.
Got Fyfe, Danger, Priddis, Gray, Shiel, Josh Kelly, B. Kennedy, Mills on field in MID.
Tempted to make some cash trading Goldy –> Blicavs and do Mills –> Libba…
This feels wrong but i feel i'm gonna miss the boat on Libba.
Thoughts community?

Crowmagnon

This post scares me.
If you MUST have Libba, you have to get him with 1 trade.

Sparrow

I needed that voice of reason. Excellent work Crowmagnon

Benjamima Puddleduck

I thought that as well, but something tells me everything will be ok!

Trading Goldy down would go against everything about your structure.

Sparrow

Fine advice Puddleduck

DadSmasher

I've never heard of that kelly bloke. burn his raggedy arse and get Libba

Sparrow

Agree thats the only trade really to get Libba in. BUT, I gotta trust my guts on him. He's stepping into the role left by Trealor at the Giants and POD. Sink or swim…

TRIGGER HAPPY

See Ruggles got upgraded. Might b a chance for a game on the weekend? Been a gr8 capt loophole first two weeks but now he needs to start generating some cashola.

Billy Blowhorn

Damn, I was hoping he wouldn't play this year, so he was still cheap for next year

JamiesNinjas13

That's like saying I hope Libba won't play this year so he would still be cheap for next year…lol

Southern S

Could come in for a game or two, then back out again depending on certain games and match ups.

With top up bombers and other good rookies sitting on donuts hoping for them to profit eventually, will no doubt leave you behind the pack.

Wombatsfc

Barlower's career average isn't really an indicator for what we can expect this year when you consider that he's in the twilight of his career and hasn't increased his average against any opponent except roos in past 3 years.

Ave for last 3 games against upcoming opponents-playing as a midfielder
eagles 61
Roos 129
Blues 110 -2 of those were when madhouse was coach and even the centre circle scored 60 midfield points against the blues in those days

If barlower sticks to recent average against eagles he'll drop 50k on Sunday night and you wont be able to swap him for performers because they'll all have increased by 50k so that sideways trade will now cost 100k more.
Maybe you're prepared to wear another sub 70 against the eagles just in case he continues his form against the roos in which case he'll only drop another 20k to 430k and he'll still have a 110 or more breakeven.
Anybody who has Barlow but doesn't have all of Papley,Kennedy,Wells,Hall,Kerridge should trade Barlow now

BigHaydos

thats my problem, ive got barlow but ive also got paps, benken, wells, hall, kerridge…….. rolling around on the floor in frustration

Andrew

Like the piece Wombat, if I have all those forwards do you recommended keeping or trading Barlow? I'm definitely getting rid of Rocky and have two choices. Parker and Dusty or Gray and Merret. Would love your opinion, thanks.

Andrew

Great point Wombat.

I have all the mentioned forwards, Do you think I should still trade Barlow? Im definitely trading Rocky and can go either Gray and Merret or Parker and Dusty. Thoughts? Thanks.

Joe_T

Looking at holding Barlow for the moment, I don't like the idea of trading premos if they aren't injured. He has one more week to prove he deserves a spot in my team.

I'm thinking of doing:
McCarthy > Papley (greater cash generation)
Rocky > T Mitchell

My only concern is that can Titch realistically be a top 8-10 midfielder by the end of the season? He's started off well and could be a decent POD but Swans have had comfortable wins in both their games. Thoughts? Cheers in advance!

BigHaydos

id rather go callan ward. Ward and T Mitchell are in the same boat in regards to being PODs but Ward has been there before(top end midfielder) and plays a crucial role in the Giants Finals chances.

BloodyFranklin

I made the same trades Joe, but I traded out Gresham. Holding Barlow also. As far as Titch goes; it was between him and Blicavs for me. Given his recent performances I am backing Titch to be reasonably reliable this season.

Joe_T

Didn't even consider Ward, no idea how I missed him since I have him in draft! But definitely a good option. I still like Titch because he will almost never be tagged whereas Ward might be, but Ward's proven record may put him ahead.

Thanks for the help!

rowdz

Titch may never be tagged but Sydney use him as their tagger which should be considered

Danners

Good trades although, Sydney have a lot of talented midfielders that could finish in the top ten eg. Hannebery, JPK, Parker, Titch. Titch might one day, but don't go chasing last weeks points

Joe_T

Yeah I think out if those four Swans mids, titch is the last one you'd pick to finish as the Swans best midfielder. Yes he's a solid player but Sydney have had 2 easy wins and the points may not come so easy all the time, might have talked myself out of this one.

I'm really considering Ward as a good option now. Is Zaharakis a good alternative for his price though? Started off on fire and I'll pocket $130k more for bringing him in.

Joe_T

I'm liking the option of bringing in Blicavs too as a temporary mid and then swing him into r2 when needed as someone suggested further up. He's basically a midfielder that can play as a ruckman in your sc team so he should score reasonably well

My only concern is that I'd have to look at not having Goldy if i do this since Gawn is my R1

sharmanism

OK community this is what my team looks like after punting Barlow and Rocky for Libba and JJ. $425K in the bank for upgrades in coming weeks. Thoughts?

D: JJ, Laird, Birchall, Macmillan, Lonergan, Weitering (Dea, McDonald-Tipungwi)

M: Hall, Danger, Fyfe, Libba, Shiel, Hunter, B Crouch, Hewett (Oliver, Davis, Robinson)

R: Goldie, Gawn (Wyatt)

F: Kennedy, Wells, Adams, Papley,Kerridge, Menadue (Brown, McGovern)

Benjamima Puddleduck

That forward line!
It looks good now, but i cant see it holding up for a long period.

Im not convinced on JJ. Looks good but everyone knows he wont maintain that average.

sharmanism

Hopefully my faith is justified, still looks a better option at the moment than what I've traded out.

Bobby Singh

Rocky to Parker, Zaharakis or B. Kennedy?

BigHaydos

definitely BenKen

Jordan

Can i risk playing papley on the field if i trade him in for barlow

Holty

im doing that. if barlow plays the same roll this weekend, Papley will score more.

Couchcoach

Hi community your thoughts on
Barlow to Johannisen and back cash or
Barlow to houli and set and forget

JamiesNinjas13

Option 1, but beware of dogs playing hawks which will provide the ultimate test on how JJ performs against quality teams.

@RealGreekMamba

Two options:
Rocky to Hall
Rioli to Papley
200k bank

Or

Gresham to Kennedy
Rioli to Papley
64k bank but miss out on Hall. Hold rocky to next week to upgrade to a falling 600k premium in Priddis/Hanners. Already have Fyfe, Pendles, Danger, Gaz

SD6_

Hall is a must have at his price I would of thought. Any fallen premiums could still be picked up in later weeks at a discounted price

Kev

Call me a cynic but I reckon the almighty supercoach gods are getting ready to smite those going with a double downgrade this early in the season. Madness!

sharmanism

Gods are for lesser beings!

SCaddict

Care to share your trades Mr Kev or are you sticking with your current crew this week?

Kev

G'day SCaddict. I went in with Broad thinking he'd play early as a mature ager. Had a nice nab cup. He may be chance this week for Grimes' spot, but I'll be swapping to him to Papley via dpp. Don't believe he'll keep his scoring up but the cash he'll make is too hard to ignore for my gnr team.

I have Barlow and Jeremy McG as concerns, but happy to hold trades for now

SCaddict

Yes if Broad doesn't get a game this week then swapping him out for Paps will be an easy decision.

You managed to dodge the Rocky bullet so sounds like your team is in pretty reasonable shape.

Kev

Yeah I've had a solid start, addict. Ranked just outside 4,000th. Had a few harsh words to myself in the preseason to stop making stupid trades. Usually I have a good season then fall in a heap when the finals roll around

Billy Blowhorn

Anyone wanna rate my 2017 SC team?
Backs: Laird, Rance, Hurley, Hooker, Thurlow, Scharenberg, (Rookie, Rookie)
Mids: Ablett, Fyfe, Pendlebury, Parker, Danger, Heppell, Watson, Myers, (Rookie, Rookie, Rookie)
Rucks: Goldstein, Ryder (Loerch)
Fwds: Martin, Merrett, Stringer, Bellchambers, Rookie, Rookie, (Rookie, Rookie)

I prefer Rance over Shaw because Richmond have a good early fixture (Well Carlton Rnd1 anyway)
What do you think?

Derek

Put the C on TBC

Where is Dawson? His starting price will be about $95k

Steeeve

Needs more essendon players

Jake

Was looking good until I saw Bellchambers!

Sammyboy

Who to bring in out of Wells, BenKen and Papsmear, pick 2

SCaddict

I'd go with Wells and BenKen as both have excellent JS and can probably sustain this higher output for longer. Paps is still a fantastic trade in obviously but I would rate the other two as the slightly higher priorities for mine.

Swans2012

Agree

Jackk

This is a funny question

Who to start Barlow or Papley? hahaha

MaccasMarvels

Barlow's on my bench! And De Goey. Paps and Kennedy on field.

Tophawk

Tell me about it! Well, as Sydney play early, I have Papley on the bench as an E. Petracca is my other bench player. If Papley goes big, I am going to exact revenge by plonking Barlow on the bench and putting Petracca onfield. If that humiliation does not fire Barlow up, I will be prepared to pay extra for JJ and retire Barlow to the paddock next week. Cheers

hedski

Fire up Barlowsan!!

Mick

Just want some thoughts about this:
Gresham to Hewett
and then Barlow to Ablett???

Danners

Good trades, Ablett should be in most Supercoach teams

Puck Jump

Hewett NO. He'll be first man out when Reid, McGlynn and McVeigh all come back over the next 2-3 weeks.

Dee

How bad is Pendleburry's ribs community? I have him and am concerned about his output for the rest of the year…. Any inside information would be really handy, thanks….

Phat Man

From what I have heard he is playing with cracked ribs, which is what rocky did last year and we all know how that turned out. Personally I would hold onto pendles until it becomes an issue, you never know, I may not effect him the way it effected rocky.

Tom

Should I trade Barlow or Rockliff out?

If I trade Barlow I will have an extra rookie on field and think it might be risky this early

Danners

Rockliff is out for two weeks, Barlow is playing

MaccasMarvels

There's lots of discussion about holding Barlow for another week and if he bottoms out with a 60 odd again, to get rid. But doesn't that just mean a double whammy? S**t score followed by the trade. If he does score rubbish again should we ALL be trading him, or should we just be riding it out……. maybe until byes, or longer?? He had a good NAB challenge…… so hard to read what's going on with him.

Dee

get rid of him…. less stress with out him in your team I reckon.

The Mountian

I think with bennell out for another month his role is likely to stay the same which means these shit scores are more than likely to continue.

Tophawk

Aaaargghhhh… I have changed my mind.

I was going to trade Barlow to Gibson via dpp. Then Rocky to Robbie Gray. And not trade in Papley this week.

Despite the temptation, I cant friggin do it. I realise that it is too risky and stupid to let a potential 250K+ cash cow slip through my fingers. So, the new plan is this;

Gresham to Papley via dpp. Gresham is a cash cow rookie I started with but with 2 performances of around 40 SC points it appears he will literally turn into a calf where its ribs are exposed. In other words, very little $$$$$.

I will give Barlow another chance. He is a premo that is not injured. He might feel better now that Bennell is not breathing down his neck. (Out indefinately with a calf problem). He may see more midfield time as the Dockers current midfield strategy is spudding badly.

The second trade can still go ahead is planned. Rocky traded out for Robbie Gray. I can't have 550K sitting on the bench without clarity. Rocky will be out for 2. But do not be surprised if it turns into 3 or 4. Calf injuries can take longer to heal than expected. (Example- Harley Bennell) I have Petracca and Loersch as very handy loopholes. No issues there.

Then it is just a matter who I whack the VC on this round…. Robbie Gray or Luke Parker. Tricky one!

Cheers community.

SCaddict

I agree Tophawk that Papley is a higher priority than Gibbo.

Barlow is a risk either way whether you keep or trade so it will be interesting to see what happens on the Barlow front over the next fortnight or so. Half of the community will be fuming and the other half will be relieved.

Tophawk

Thanks SCaddict!

I am telling ya, if Barlow spuds again this week after two consecutive games in Perth, he will be retired to the paddock for young blood. (eg JJ) Period. Not putting up with Griffin BS this year.

The Mountian

Tophawk, I have the VC on robbie myself, as he is playing essendon and the number he put up last week appart for the DE where very, very delicious. If he can lift the DE, I see him easily hitting over 150 this week

Matt

Looking at the below trade this week:

Yeo to Johannisen and Barlow to Zorko.

What do people think?

Tophawk

Yeo to Johannisen is a goer IMO.

Barlow to Zorko wait one more week. No price change applicable for Zorko as he missed round 1. See what Barlow does this round.

Cheers

Benjamima Puddleduck

Id keep Yeo, not sure why you would even consider that. Chasing Numbers?

Barlow to Zorko could be a great trade, only dilemma is holding spudlo for another week.

Southern S

True but Yeo sucks, just goes missing.

DadSmasher

Looks good at the moment Matt.
Barlow to Zorko = has been to points pig
Yeo to JJ = risk currently doing poorly to risk currently doing brilliantly
The barlow equation shouldn't change and I doubt that the yeo equation will reverse so, to me they look like brilliant trades.

azza

which one out of the 2:
Greesham-Papley
Barlow – parker
Next week:
Rocky – zorko

OR

Greesham-Papley
rocky – parker
Next week: if barlow drops another 60
barlow- zaharakis

Tophawk

Option 2. With a bit of luck Barlow might produce a decent score this week.