The Round 3 Cheat Sheet

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Supercoach 2016 midpriced forwardsWhat an INCREDIBLE week of trade conundrums we have here community!

We’ve got Barlow.. does he stay or does he go? Rockliff.. and who to get in for him.. ROOKIES! Which ones MUST we lock away into our teams before it’s too late?

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Bobby Singh · 06/04/2016 at 13:55

I've got some trading problems. I have a few trades in mind including:
• Bartel to JJ.
• Rocky upgrade/downgrade.
• Gresham to Parish/Kennedy.

Which two do you think are the most efficient? Who would be an upgrade and downgrade target for Rockliff? Also, should I go Parish or Kennedy if I was to complete that trade?

    Paul · 06/04/2016 at 14:16

    Kennedy. Tackles, kicks goals and mature body. Parish is going to have good games, but he's a skinny kid shouldering a lot of load. He's going to get tired and be more inconsistent over time.

    Pinidu · 06/04/2016 at 14:44

    I think you should wipe the Bartel to JJ trade of that list Bobby. It's a useless sideways trade. Bartel is neither injured or severely out of form and I am still not satsfied about JJ, his first two games were massive wins for the Bulldogs and they are yet to play strong opposition, also, he hasn't got some lockdown attention yet.

    The other two trades should be prioritised.

      Bobby Singh · 06/04/2016 at 14:48

      Rocky to Parker?

        Pinidu · 06/04/2016 at 14:55

        That's what I'm doing, I just hope dearly that Parker continues his stellar form.

          Jackson · 07/04/2016 at 02:43

          Bartel to JJ.
          Rockliff to Kennedy.
          Bang Bang. Welcome.

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2016 at 11:44

    I think Parish will gain more than benken as the year goes on (think Joel Selwood, skinny frame 2007).
    But short term cash gain its a no brainer to choose kennedy over parish.

      Wombatsfc · 07/04/2016 at 12:41

      The cheetahs aren't on Jims Magic Juice anymore so when they get injured/sore they will only recover at the same rate as clean athletes which means Parish is not a better choice than kennedy because he's more likely to miss games.

        JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2016 at 15:11

        Mate, the magic juice still didn't work, it wiped our half of our 2012 list with soft tissue injuries.

Anth · 06/04/2016 at 13:55

In short, which out of the following 4 options?:

1) Barlow -> Johanissen, Rockliff -> Gray
2) Rockliff -> Parker, Keep Barlow
3) Jacobs -> Natanui, Rockliff -> Gray
4) Keep both Rocky and Barlow


I have Rockliff and want to get rid of him as I don't see him playing enough games to warrant keeping him in the team.
I want to trade him to Gray, but to do that I need to generate some cash.

Now I was lucky enough to have all the required rookies in my starting line up, so pretty much the only way to generate enough cash is to trade a premium.

Which brings me to Barlow, by trading him to Johanissen it allows me to go Rockliff to Gray.

Is it worth using the trades to bring in both Gray and Johanissen, or to keep Barlow and trade Rockliff to someone like Parker? The other premium I'm worried about is Jacobs, but don't want to trade him (unless I go him to NicNat).

    Grahame Lebroy · 06/04/2016 at 17:36

    Def not 3. Probably option 2. Do u have cash cows to fix up or r u happy with them?

    Rod · 07/04/2016 at 19:44

    Keep both. If you selected well to start with you will have reasobaqle cover. Worst thing will be to get rid of either one and your premo replacement only delivers a 50

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    Anth · 06/04/2016 at 14:00

    You are all a bunch of legends, thanks Jock.

    LEKD0G · 06/04/2016 at 18:19

    Goo work mate!

Damon Bisetto · 06/04/2016 at 14:11

is Ben Kennedy a must to get in?

    JamiesNinjas13 · 06/04/2016 at 14:29

    Him and papley should be everyones priorities in terms of cash generation

    Crowmagnon · 06/04/2016 at 16:41

    yes. if you can get him with 1 trade.

    LEKD0G · 06/04/2016 at 18:19

    Yes, lock him in if possible

      Dee · 06/04/2016 at 19:12

      yes yes and yes….

    Crane · 07/04/2016 at 19:46

    I say no – but I have Papley, Hewett, Kerridge, Wells – so no room for him

    Zambo · 08/04/2016 at 15:39

    Is the Pope Catholic?

Jye · 06/04/2016 at 14:12

Also had Blicavs in my team pretty much all preseason Lek.. the pain, oh the pain. Pretty tempted to trade him into my mids for Rocky and then trade him into R2 later in the season (currently have sinclair there as a stepping stone)… Thoughts? Risky, considering I could just bring in an ultra premo for Rocky…

    LEKD0G · 06/04/2016 at 14:33

    That's a really interesting point, I'm now thinking about this deeply

      Jye · 06/04/2016 at 14:51

      If I went for it though I would most likely be sacrificing bringing in Goldy later as R2. Unless I ended up just keeping Blicavs as a M7/M8 hmm…

    OldOcker · 06/04/2016 at 14:44

    Jye, You have been reading my mind, I have been thinking all week about the same thing.
    I went into this season with no Ruck backup and he could be the answer.

      Jye · 06/04/2016 at 14:50

      Definitely could be a goer. POD too.
      How would you use him as ruck cover via DPP though?

        OldOcker · 06/04/2016 at 15:24

        No DPP for him but if either of my Ruck's went down I could trade one out and move Blicav's in and get a Gun Mid to replace him. Just a bit of security for the Ruck position whilst his scoring is nearing Premo Mid anyway.
        He is a great Ruck choice and I currently have Goldy and Jacobs who are generally injury free and play 21-22 games.

          Jye · 06/04/2016 at 15:36

          Very nice, like the thinking

            Nathan · 06/04/2016 at 16:10

            Your still trading though? Not sure of this logic

              Jye · 06/04/2016 at 16:15

              As in still trading Rocky? Yeah pretty sure I will be

              OldOcker · 06/04/2016 at 16:20

              Just thinking of trading Rocky and Blicav's is a genuine option for a replacement.

                Nathan · 06/04/2016 at 16:39

                That's fine- no what I mean is the swing option if a ruck goes down- if that happens and you sub B down to rucks then your still trading for a gun Mid. If that's the logic then I don't get it- also for 30k more you can get Sam Mitchell

                  Sana · 06/04/2016 at 21:22

                  Yeah agree. If you still have to trade when a ruck goes down ie. Bring in another premo mid for injured ruck, its not really backup is it? Might as well grab Blicavs then when/if it happens.

    Phil · 06/04/2016 at 16:59

    This here to me fellas seems like what Jock was alluding to yesterday on his podcast. Sometimes people's think it's a smart trade when it sounds all fancy ie switching players from 1 position to another. But the bottom line is do you think Blicavs will end up either top2 ruck or top8 midfielder?? Because my bet is Goldstein, NicNat, Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Danger, Gray, Parker, Priddis & Hannerbry will have him covered.

    DadSmasher · 06/04/2016 at 17:55

    Excellent pickup Jye. What a lot of people aren't factoring in to their ruck calculations is the reduction in boundary throw ins/ stoppages. Less throw ins means less point scoring opportunities for rucks. Goldy Jacobs SMartin haven't had bad games they've played equally as well as usual they've just had less opportunities to score hitout points.

      Jye · 06/04/2016 at 18:18

      So true! Great thought.

    Sana · 06/04/2016 at 21:30

    Are you expecting Blicavs to increase it price significantly? And avg as much as a premo mid? If not this move seems pointless. It's not ruck back up unless you can swap them in without using a trade, which you can't without also getting a mid/ruck for your ruck bench? Why not wait until a ruck goes down/you are ready to trade Sinclair and assess whether Blicavs is a good choice. IMO he's only a consideration in the ruck position long term.

Jordan · 06/04/2016 at 14:19

blicavs, parker or papley (via)

Paul · 06/04/2016 at 14:19

I traded out Barlow and Oliver in favour of Papley and Aaron Hall (via a DPP to for/mid). Have 200k in the bank now. Next goal is to turn Kreuzer into Goldstein. Will probably take another downgrade/upgrade, but looks like Goldy will drop a bit over the next few weeks.

    Horse · 06/04/2016 at 15:37

    Very poor decision making Paul. Bartel is a side trade which is dumb and Oliver is a rookie who will generate cash, although not at the rate of Papley who may? not be able to maintain his phenomenal start. Neither of your guys are injured!!! Trades a gold and you have an itchy finger, something that new/ inexperienced SCers have and most of us went through that stage. The 2016 players are bigger, stronger and have more momentum plus they have less rotations = likelihood of more injuries. Come round 18 and you will be grateful.

Rick Grimes · 06/04/2016 at 14:21

Your Rocky advice seems to contradict the flow charts of a couple of days ago. Not saying your are wrong mind you.

Personally I'm benching him and using the useful loophole he creates. Two weeks is the max I will carry him tho.
Also holding Barlow for one final look. If he spuds up again it's straight to the deep fryer.

Steele is out of my team for Papley.
L McDonald up to Gibson (want one more look at JJ).

These guys I punted would average 80+ fro the season but they haven't paid off.

    Dan · 06/04/2016 at 15:34

    Gibson is shit waste of a trade your getting sucked in

      Rick Grimes · 06/04/2016 at 16:00

      Don't think he'll be top 6 defender champ? Reckon you've been on the Good stuff.

        Matho · 06/04/2016 at 16:29

        Generally, Hawk players are not good SC players despite being the best team. Personally I wouldn't trade any of them even mighty Sam Mitchell because it is doubtful he will all games and Clarkson sometimes rests his aging stars in the last quarter. Gibbos game was very much out of the ordinary and there are 6 – 8 better SC defenders although he is NOT a shit waste of a trade. You could do worse. Finally, the flowchart should be adhered to, plus, a little gut feel.

        Grahame Lebroy · 06/04/2016 at 17:09

        He won't be a top 6 defender

        Lachie · 06/04/2016 at 18:28

        Ill bet you $20 Gibson won't be top 6

          Rick Grimes · 07/04/2016 at 06:36

          Who are the top 6 then? And don't throw JJ in just because you own him and that's what you hope happens. Let's base this on proven quantities.

Hayley · 06/04/2016 at 14:28

Super annoyed that I'm about 10k away from a straight swap of Barlow to Parker. Started with all of the Green blokes (except Blicavs, but I have Goldstein and Nic Nat in there). Don't know if I should bother with a downgrade somewhere else to get Parker in or go for a different option.

ATM I have:

JJ, Laird, Adams, Shaw, Weitering, Sheridan (Dea, AMT)
Zaharakis, Gazza, Dangerfield, Libba, Cripps, Shiel, Mills, Barlow (Hewett, Davis, Gresham)
Nic Nat, Goldstein (Loersch)
Hall, Kennedy, Wells, Papley, Buddy, Kerridge (Menadue, Milera)

    fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 14:50

    Save your trades, too early to feck Barlow off imo. Thats a very strong team at this stage but if were that desperate to get Parker in for Barlow, I'd downgrade Sheridan to a Hartley and pocket a little cash in the meantime.

      Hayley · 06/04/2016 at 15:14

      If Barlow stinks it up again he'll drop 40k in a week, and they're playing West Coast, so I can't imagine he'll have a lot of luck in that midfield battle.

      Trading out Sheridan isn't a great idea. Break even of 57. He's going to make money at least this week. Hartley has still played only the 1 game, so can consider that next week.

        fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 15:34

        So if Barlow does get his scores together do you plan on trading him back in later? If you picked him as a keeper at the start of the season like I did then I would suggest holding for now. 40k isn't worth burning trades if you have to put him back in. There's been talk of Freo structure changing and Bennell isn't looking like being back anytime soon so there's now way of knowing how Barlow will go. It's your decision what you do but I'm only putting my thoughts out there.
        As for Sheridan, no guarantee he'll make any money, cant remember exactly but did he even break 60 last week? Either way, cant see him generating significant enough money or being a keeper so as I said, if you really are desperate for Parker, thats where I'd get the cash!
        Anyways, all only my opinion, if we all thought and did the same it would be a bloody boring game! Best of luck with it!

          fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 15:41

          Brown instead of Hartley too is an option, he'll make more cash than Sheridan imo

            Hayley · 06/04/2016 at 15:55

            But Brown is likely to score 25, especially against a team that is half decent. Pass.

              fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 16:02

              He's avg 57 from first 2 games. That would be about 170k he'll increase if he plays to that average. Sheridan would have to score about 110 average to generate you the same…?

                Hayley · 07/04/2016 at 12:29

                Yeah, against Gold Coast and Melbourne, 2 bottom 4 teams from last year. Against a top 8 team, there isn't a lot Essendon defenders are going to be able to do. Especially the ones playing on the best forwards.

                  Hayley · 07/04/2016 at 12:32

                  And Sheridan isn't in there to make lots of money. He's in there to score lots of points, something you can't expect from an Essendon top up player.

          mick · 07/04/2016 at 11:07

          sheridan only played 2 and half q add that to 55 and it becomes around 80 lets see this week if 70 or less hes axed

            Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 11:15

            Sheridan got hurt during the game, he didn't under perform.

            He's not on the injury list so good to go.

Sean · 06/04/2016 at 14:30

This question has been done to death but now for some final thoughts…

Are you holding, trading or keeping Barlow and Rockliff and why?

    Dice · 06/04/2016 at 14:48

    Holding Rockliff.
    Trading Barlow & Bartel out for Johannisen & Hall.
    May trade Rockliff next week, depending on the rookie's score replacing Rockliff for this week.
    Thinking carefully about Rockliff – i'm 100% sure he'll bounce back this year, just a matter of when.
    Think it'll be sooner rather than later

      fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 14:55

      Holding Barlow – waiting to see if Freo's structure changes like Ross Lyon suggests. Bennell also looking a little ways off returning (AFL twitter comment today quoting Ross Lyon) I'll give Barlow a week or twp to step up and turn it around.

      Trading Rockcliff – Was so close to not starting him this year and wish I listened to myself. No preseason, and coming back from injury. No faith in his body and he's been spending way too much time up forward. He might bounce back but I can't see it happening til post byes if at all.

    derek · 06/04/2016 at 15:41

    Keeping Barlow – not injured

    Before i heard about Wingard being out this week, i was keeping Rocky. Now i am in panic mode worried about too many rookies onfield.

    Matt · 06/04/2016 at 15:56

    I'm going Barlow to papley to generate cash which allows me to go Rocky to R Gray. I think gray will be a top 6 mid and i have $350k left over for some early upgrades elsewhere.

    IMO JJ and Parker won't keep up their current form and will be inconsistent

      fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 16:09

      Looking at Rocky to Gray too but I wonder is Gray performing to his maximum now? Port have a reasonable start so I wonder if he'll keep the scoring up. Having the V on him against Essendon is very appealing though…

        Matt · 06/04/2016 at 16:25

        He averaged 110 and 111 in the last two years even with two injury/concussion affected scores last year. I'm bringing him in as i won't have to worry about his output each week

          fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 16:35

          Yep very true. And I just read his DE was only at 48% and he still managed 129. If he sorts that out…

            Crowmagnon · 06/04/2016 at 18:13

            Barlow to Robbie for me too.

      Mister_Spock · 06/04/2016 at 20:30

      Thinking of doing the same Matt. The only hesitation I have is having the $350k but no cash cows for a few weeks to upgrade. Will prob end up upgrading McKenzie down back next week tho

    CoachDamo · 06/04/2016 at 16:39

    Holding Rockliff for now. Brisbane play the last match of the Round so I'll look at other options first and play Menadue as an Emergency in the midfield – that might mean the trade can wait a week.

    MaccasMarvels · 06/04/2016 at 18:51

    I think I will hold both, and be content to have 30 trades left at the end of this round. HOWEVER, Rocky to Parker is tempting. Worried about that calf injury, lack of preseason etc.

      Swans2012 · 06/04/2016 at 20:58

      I don't think I can resist rocky to Parker, I normally dodge the swan mids as it runs so dam deep but just looked over Parkers 2014 scores again, and if that's where he's heading, and feels like he is, I want on

Win5 · 06/04/2016 at 14:44

2 Trades
D: Shaw, Rich, Seedsman, Weitering, Adams, Dea, Tipungwuti, M Brown
M: Danger, Ablett, Prddis, Fyfe, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Oliver, Gresham, Davis, Hewitt
R: Nicnat, Gawn, Grimley
F: Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, Menadue, McCarthy

As you can see I have all the warning sign players in Rich, Rocky and Barlow. I have most of the top 10 rookies, but not Papley.

Where can I build the strength into my side with 2 picks. Your input and advice is greatly appreciated.

    Richard · 06/04/2016 at 20:24

    You could flick Gresham off move Kerridge to the midfield bench for an option to cover for Rocky.Then bring Papley into your forward line.

      Win5 · 06/04/2016 at 23:11

      Hi Richard,
      Would that mean keeping Rich, Barlow and Rocky in my team? Do you think that's a wise move? What about if i was to use 2 trades. Thanks

        ball swing · 06/04/2016 at 23:35

        hey buddy its round 3… its the ONLY round for compulsory 2 trades…. its the round to use BOTH trades even if they include what some consider seideways trades. this is the only free hit before price changes.

        personally in your team you trade rocky out for JJ and you do the other trade the other guy suggested.

        rocky was NEVER going top play more than 15 games… he's as strong as balsa wood… most were just hoping he would make it to the byes.

        ZERO point hanging on to him. Otherwise trade out barlow/rich for JJ via DPP

          hedski · 06/04/2016 at 23:55

          Wayno and Rockys balsa wood emporium. Me likey

    wombatsfc · 06/04/2016 at 23:17

    Burn Mills for Papley using a swing and trade Rocky for one of the mitchells or parker, alternatively rocky for papley seedsman for JJ

    Jim · 07/04/2016 at 09:09

    Personally I would hold Rich and play Tipungwuti if Rich doesn't play ,then trade Gresham and move Menadue to the midfield and bring in Papley to your forward line .Then I would trade Rockcliff for Robbie Gray given that you have at least 15k in the bank.



fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 14:45

Didn't start with him myself but If you had Leunberger shouldn't you be holding for another few weeks I would have thought? Scoring to about his price while other premo rucks look destined to drop. Surely there's much better value hanging on a week or two and picking up Goldy or Gawn cheaper? Slightly off topic, but IIRC the rucks in general didn't start off to strongly last year either, wonder why this is?

    derek · 06/04/2016 at 15:44

    agree. I went with The lobbe for the same reason. expecting him not to drop while the Goldmember did. I really have to hold on for 3 more weeks

    Phil · 06/04/2016 at 17:11

    I've got leuy in my FWD line and he is just killing me. I started him as a POD as Essendon had a very good early draw for ruckman but it hasn't worked. I'd love to give him another go this week against Derek's boy Lobbe, but someone has to make way for Papley. I would have started Papley but I took him out for Ubergang, a cheap B/F to loophole with Adams, Brown & McT.

      fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 18:07

      Thats a bit different Phil, I was more thinking if you had him at R2. If he's in your forwards then i'd be chopping him too.

Pinidu · 06/04/2016 at 14:46

Trades this week:
Rockliff –> Parker
Mills –> Kennedy
(Getting rid of Mills is my only way of getting Ben Kennedy who has a BE of -110 and is a must have, Mills BE is -14)


    JamiesNinjas13 · 06/04/2016 at 15:16

    That was my initial thoughts too Pinidu. However its a waste to trade out Mills since he is scoring good and will become even better.
    Do Rockliff to Kennedy instead, bank the cash and you can use it to get into another 2 cheap potential keepers next round (ie. JJ or Hall).

      Pinidu · 06/04/2016 at 16:31

      Yea, I like your logic James. I've already got Hall but I'm not yet sold on JJ. It's definitely a long term solution…i will suffer short term pain but long term gain. Although, I'm wary of breaking the SC rule: only trade out a premium….for another premium.

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 17:34

    Getting rid of mills is not your only option. Rocky> Benken and pocket cash.

    Then you keep mills who is profiting steadily and you lose an injured player. Doing both trades is just stupid.

      Dee · 06/04/2016 at 19:28

      Agreed….. you gotta HOLD Mills.

HOLLA · 06/04/2016 at 14:48

I dont have Papley or Adams yet. I also have rocky and barlow. Am i stuffed if i use 2 trades from premos down to rookies.? Would mean if i do so id have to go 2 up next week so i dont have 800k+ sitting the doing stuff all. Suggestions please.

    Jye · 06/04/2016 at 14:54

    Yeah probably wouldn't suggest that mate, 1 premo down to rookie at most.

      HOLLA · 06/04/2016 at 15:00

      Thanks for your input jye. So i guess its a case of whos the better rookie and who has to go out of rocky and barlow.

        Jye · 06/04/2016 at 15:39

        Can't go one premo down to one of the rookies, and then sideways trade to bring the other rookie in?
        Another thought is just holding both and correcting 2 rookies to papley and adams – lekdog has said he's holding both barlow and rocky

          HOLLA · 06/04/2016 at 19:46

          Umm lekdog also barracks for carlton…

    Chill · 06/04/2016 at 15:01

    Holla, I don't envy your situation. I think going from premo down to 2 rookies isnt ideal. I would take Adams and just forget Papley every existed.

      HOLLA · 06/04/2016 at 15:16

      Yep and thats just the tip of the shitpile Chill. Went rocky to parker barlow to adams. Next week yeo to zorko and mckenzie to JJ, if they stink it up again that is.

        Chill · 06/04/2016 at 15:29

        Ahh dear. If it makes you feel better I am holding Barlow, Billings and Suckling for now. Bloody spuds.

          HOLLA · 06/04/2016 at 15:51

          Nope not one bit haha

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 17:39

    You may be stuffed you may not.

    Rocky is worthless for the next two weeks+ so that's 550k doing nothing anyway.

    Adams is an absolute must have and will get you 160+ points over the next two weeks hopefully, plus gain a heap of cash.

    Barlow might make you 180 points over the next two weeks but the way he is going I say it's doubtful.

    Papley might get you 140+ points over the next two weeks, and make a heap of cash.

    To me 2016 is the year of taking risks and having some money in the bank while the cows fatten.

    ball swing · 06/04/2016 at 23:39

    do it mate… trade down to the 2 rookies… and how is having 800K in the bank a waste???

    with rookies going up in price each week in 2-3 weeks that measly 800K you are referring to will be worth 3 prems or roughly 1.5 million.

    Do it buddy!!!

    I cant do it coz I have all the right rookies so im def getting rid of the glass cannon Rocky for a premo mid and barlow for JJ in def.

Tom · 06/04/2016 at 14:49

dumb question but just wondering how I can use Rockliff as a loophole? I have Menadue, Hewett, Davis and Gresham with 2 of them on field

    derek · 06/04/2016 at 15:56

    you put Rocky on the field plus the one rookie you think will score the best (lets say Gresham) you are committed to him now.

    You put the emergency on one of either Menadue or Hewett.

    if you selected menadue, and he scores really well, you are done. Leave Rocky on the field and you will get menadue's score.

    If menadue spuds, you then get to choose between Davis or hewett as a second bite. If you think davis will do better than menadue, you swap Rocky with davis, therefore getting davis score.

      derek · 06/04/2016 at 15:58

      i've got Keays as my loophole. it worked really well the first week and i was able to get kennedys score, the second week i decided that Gresham could do better than Menadues score. oh well.

        Tom · 06/04/2016 at 16:29

        cheers derek! legend!

        Kimmyd · 07/04/2016 at 12:32

        Interesting choice given that menadue scored 80 Gresham about 40. Menadue admittedly only got 60 odd but I watched Gresham in round 1 and he was terrible, lucky to still be picked for round 2. Not expecting him to score over 60 which is why I punted him last week for papley

    fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 16:19

    Also works with the captain score. Using this week as an example:

    Leave Rocky on the pitch. Brisbane play last v Geelong.
    Put the Vice Captain on someone you think might go big, eg; Robbie Gray v Essendon Friday night. Put the Captain on Rockcliff.

    If Gray goes big, leave it as is. Rockcliff will not play. Emergency comes in. Captaincy does not transfer to Emergency. You will score double for Vice Captain.

    If Gray is rubbish, select a different captain after the Friday night game.

    It gives you 2 shots at the captain score.

JamiesNinjas13 · 06/04/2016 at 15:08

Anyone that follows the suns? Just wanting to know what type of role Cannon Mckenzie looks to be playing? Is he taking the third tall forward therefore not running off half back (kolo and malceski are doing these roles)?

Abracadabra · 06/04/2016 at 15:14

Seems as though most people are getting parker in for rocky this week. Any other mid pod options? Also lekdog..what do you think about barlow to zorko?

    shemmistwarehouse · 06/04/2016 at 15:30

    robbie gray 596k average of 127.5 BE of 95 should average 110+!

    Chill · 06/04/2016 at 15:30

    Robbie Gray. Also no one talking about Jordan Lewis, 108 and 115 to start the season.

      derek · 06/04/2016 at 15:59

      Hodge is out for a few more week, could be a bold selection

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 17:41

    Tommy Mitchell

      Holty · 06/04/2016 at 17:43


    LEKD0G · 06/04/2016 at 18:25

    I'd like to look at Zorko again this week before his price changes

DDJ · 06/04/2016 at 15:24


Should we still be holding Barlow in this case? Does this mean he's stuck in the forward line until Bennell's return?

I'm thinking if he's named as a forward when the teams are announced that he is no longer worth the risk and should be traded as Higgo's chart suggests, what do you reckon community?

    northernsoul74 · 06/04/2016 at 15:48

    Just got to wait until teams drop I think then deal with it. Barlow may be dropped from the Freo team altogether regardless of Bennells situation. Some people are taking Ross Lyons comments as Barlow goes back in midfield, some think hes suggesting there is no place at all for him anymore.

      ball swing · 06/04/2016 at 23:42

      thats it barlow aint best 22 anymore… not with lyons long term contract. and if bennell is out for longer then nothings going to change- hence barlows scoring is unlikely to change. as crouch would say "tell him to pi'' off"

    Lachie · 06/04/2016 at 18:29

    This is a bad thing for Barlow if anything. Freo prefer having Bennell in the fwd line.

The Mountain · 06/04/2016 at 15:25

Rocky out – Libba in
Barlow out – Hanners in via DPP

Good trade? a touch under 100K in the kitty but this puts 5 ultra premos in the mid plus l.hunter and Libba as my two mid pricers

    Chill · 06/04/2016 at 15:32

    i like it.

    Danners · 06/04/2016 at 21:33

    Good trades, Libba is a must

BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 15:27

Wingard out?

    Sparrow · 06/04/2016 at 18:14

    HOLD! He'll come good. Got him too

      BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 18:17

      Nah I don't have him bruv.

      … I just like to contribute 😀

hedski · 06/04/2016 at 15:37

Have rethought my strategy and have decided on
Rocky to Fyfe
Gresham to Papley
Team is

Shaw Gibbo Smith (Brown)
Adams Weits Dea (Ruggles)

Danger Fyfe Gazza (Menadue)
Gray Parker Libba (Davis)
Kerridge Mills (Petracca)

Goldy Gawn (Loersch)

Barlow Hall S.Gray (Tippa)
Wells BenKen Papley (McCarthy)

Going to give Spudlow another crack and keep a close eye on JJ this week, possible switch next week.
VC will be on Robbie Gray to go big against ess.
Thoughts community? Cheers

    Chill · 06/04/2016 at 15:41

    That's a lovely looking team Heds. I'm jealous. And Ruggles just got elevated FYI.

      The Ranger · 06/04/2016 at 16:04

      Can't argue with those trades Hedski

        hedski · 06/04/2016 at 16:20

        Thanks ranger figured there was no point muckin around just bang teen wolf in I had the cash from sidey to libba last week

      hedski · 06/04/2016 at 16:06

      Cheers chill figured he'd get upgraded early he's been a handy loophole too with the cats and suns (loersch) playing lots of late sat/sun games.

    fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 16:29

    I understand trading Rocky but maybe consider holding off on Fyfe another week. Looks like a good chance of dropping in value. I could be wrong but check his BE first…

      hedski · 06/04/2016 at 16:48

      His be is @170 I think. He might drop $20-25k but I want his points.

        Lazy_Simmo · 06/04/2016 at 19:03

        Love that team Hedski. Absolute beauty and go bang bang on those trades. Whats your overall position?

          hedski · 06/04/2016 at 22:16

          Hey simmo im @5600
          Have burnt 4 trades but necessary I feel for consolidation.
          Will keep that itchy finger on the missus for the next few weeks and wait for calves. Reckon I've got an ok platform to start from.

            ball swing · 06/04/2016 at 23:49

            4 trades already??? OUCH

            why wait on barlow to JJ another week?? JJ is going to go up and barlow going to come down PLUS another trade to make it 5 trades.

            The price changes for one week will make it the equivalent of 1.5 trades worth.

            Hold on Fyfe who will drop in price and get JJ before he rises in price and barlow drops in price which is a double hit.

            Your team looks good… but good for a team that started that way… not so good for a team that has used 4 trades already.

            My team aint great but 3600 overall with zero trades made so far aint bad either.

              hedski · 07/04/2016 at 00:06

              I think rocky to fyfe is solid.
              Want paps he'll make $ over gresh.
              As I said earlier Barlow and jj can wait a week not necessarily gonna do that so 4 trades done.

northernsoul74 · 06/04/2016 at 15:45

Like a lot of people I have Barlow and Rocky, but dont have Papley or Kennedy (currently still holding Petracca). I'll likely go Barlow to Kennedy and Rocky to R Gray and forget Papley ever existed.
I could trade Barlow to Papley and Rocky to Kennedy and look to upgrade over the next few weeks.
Or Barlow to Kennedy and Petracca to Papley and worry about Rocky next week. Leaves me very weak for a week though.

    SCaddict · 06/04/2016 at 16:11

    The way BenKen and Paps have started the season they could come close to matching whatever premo replacement you bring in instead, whilst making you a huge chunk of coin in the process.

    It's not like you are bringing in some weak ass defensive rookie who may have gotten a vest in seasons past. These guys have been pumping out tons!

    I'm sure you won't have much trouble finding awesome things to do with that huge war chest either.

      Northernsoul74 · 06/04/2016 at 16:43

      The double down grade is tempting giving me a huge war chest but will be 2 planned keepers down. Food for thought, thanks for the advice.

      Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 17:43

      People are afraid to have a war chest I came into the season with 743k in the bank and it's working out just fine.

    hedski · 06/04/2016 at 16:12

    I'm giving Barlow a week and concentrating on rocky out paps in. Im holding petracca will play soon and great maneuverability/loopholing. Having said that petracca won't make you coupla hundred $k next few weeks. Could get paps for him now trade him back in on the bubble in a month.

      Rockface · 06/04/2016 at 16:31

      And waste a trade????????

        hedski · 06/04/2016 at 16:55

        $200K profit from paps + petracca on bubble? Whats to say that petracca even plays could get hurt in reserves.

      Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 17:46

      So trade petracca out, then in, then out again after he's made some cash? No way that's SC suicide.

      If people hadn't started with a non-playing rookie they wouldn't be in this pickle. Live and learn I guess.

        ball swing · 06/04/2016 at 23:53

        hahaha SC suicide you say???

        SC suicide is doing what youre doing by keeping a NPR on the bench who WONT play for possibly 2 months.

        BenKen and Pap are MUST HAVES. If you dont know that then youre only new to the game. They are averaging 100 over the first 2 weeks… how can you even think they are wasted trades has me bemused.

Rick Grimes · 06/04/2016 at 16:08

Never said they did. Just pointing out that some of the SC Gods preach a very different ethos. Personally I'll back Rocky to get back to his best in a short turnaround. That's also a risk, and now a free POD.

panther · 06/04/2016 at 16:15

i've got tommy rockliff and want to offload him to a POD, who are the best POD's to get thoughts would be very helpful
-tom mitchell
-scott thompson

    BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 16:18

    Titch IMO.

      fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 16:31

      ^ agree. Just check how the byes fit in with your team. I'd be putting Tom Mitchell in my team but already have Hanners, Parker and Mills on field with Hewett on the bench.

        panther · 06/04/2016 at 16:36

        not to worried about the byes yet, and how much mid time is titch getting

          Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 17:47

          Titch is an absolute ball magnet, always gets mid time.

        Crowmagnon · 06/04/2016 at 18:22

        I wish I had the testicular fortitude to bring in Titch. Gun.

    Grahame Lebroy · 06/04/2016 at 17:11

    I like Treloar out of those

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2016 at 11:56

    Titch by a mile if he performs the way he is in the past 2 weeks.
    He had the most centre clearences, stoppages, inside 50s for the swans last week which shows he is spending potentialy the most time in the midfield out of all the sydney players (well the most effective in the middle that is lol).

    DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 12:37

    Do you already have Parker? If not he's a safer option than mitchell as mitchell is sometimes given a defensive midfield role

alex · 06/04/2016 at 16:23

Hold saint Nick?

Cheers commuity

    Rick Grimes · 06/04/2016 at 16:29

    No longer SC relevant.

    LEKD0G · 06/04/2016 at 18:27


    Danners · 06/04/2016 at 21:31

    Saint Nick should be held for now

Adam · 06/04/2016 at 16:30

Scored 2402 last ranked top 500 overall
This week im looking hard at barlow to zorko ?
And hoping Rosa is Back
And hoping Wingards ok
Thaughts please

    BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 16:32

    Wingard out apparently.

      Davonaise · 06/04/2016 at 16:43

      Yeah they can't risk this guy

        mark · 06/04/2016 at 18:28

        I'm holding wingard its just a week

          TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/04/2016 at 18:33

          Keeping wingard papley can slide in off the bench in his place.

james · 06/04/2016 at 16:39

james · 06/04/2016 at 16:41

who do i start in my defence this week
cutler, dea, or tipungwuti

current DEF – houli laird sheridan weltering adams (then either 1 of the three above)

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 17:49

    I'm thinking tippa for some reason.

    LEKD0G · 06/04/2016 at 18:29

    Of those three I'm thinking Dea

    Holty · 06/04/2016 at 20:06


    Stewy_the_Swan · 06/04/2016 at 21:18

    Dea for me

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 06/04/2016 at 23:25

    Cutler, someone has to stand up for the lions this week, half the team is on holidays again.

clubber lang · 06/04/2016 at 17:22

what to do with lobbe?

    Holty · 06/04/2016 at 17:52

    he does have essendon this week. But this was always the problem with Lobbe, if he was to not perform, you cant trade him to anyone as he isnt worth enough. Only thing i can suggest is if you have a midpricer you are not happy with, trade them for a rookie which should give you enough to trade out lobbe for a premium.

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 17:53

    Cull. I bet Luen beats him in the hitouts this week.

    People probably think this is Lobbe's week but I don't think it's ever his week honestly. Upgrade to a premo ruck now.

      clubber lang · 07/04/2016 at 13:39

      D: Shaw, Birchall, Johannisen, Seeedsman, Weitering, Adams (dea, mbrown)
      M: Albert, Fyfe, Pendlebury, Parker, Priddis, BKennedy, Mills, Hewett (menadue, gresham, davis)
      R: Naitanui, Lobbe (wyatt)
      F: Wingard, Barlow, Stringer, Taylor, Wells, Kerridge (mccarthy, mcdonald-tipungwuit)

      seedsman has been disappointing but ill stick with him a few more weeks
      lobbe was my main concern
      will trade out barlow for papley
      then i can upgrade lobbe to any ruck
      my only concern is those premo rucks (goldy, gawn blicavs) can be snapped up cheaper in a few weeks
      i was hoping good ol' lobbe would go up a tad and make some moolah

      …i pity the fool

    BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 17:54

    Can you get Blicavs?

    Danners · 06/04/2016 at 21:31

    Do what Jock did with Rockliff in the podcast

baggy pants · 06/04/2016 at 17:56

Pendlebury playing with cracked ribs. AFL website

    LEKD0G · 06/04/2016 at 18:30

    That's what Rocky had last year, bad news

Jojo · 06/04/2016 at 17:57

Would rocky to Ben Kennedy be a smart trade I'm currently ranked in the 600's and I don't want to waste trades

    BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 18:12

    Gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

    LEKD0G · 06/04/2016 at 18:30

    I don't think it's the worst trade you could do

    BigHaydos · 06/04/2016 at 19:02

    I think this is a good trade purely based on the cash generation

    ball swing · 06/04/2016 at 23:57

    awesome bro… yeah that trade is a must!!!

    also you may not even need to trade until round 5 or 6 when rookies are fattening up and puts you in a great position.

leviathan · 06/04/2016 at 18:14

Harley Bennell appears to be out for a significant amount of time with an ongoing calf injury. (AFL website) Looks like Barlow's JS has just been assured for the time being.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/04/2016 at 18:31

    Team should be picked on form regardless of who is/isn't available. If Freo uses this simple method barlow should b heading to the magoos.

    Northernsoul74 · 06/04/2016 at 19:23

    Job security as a forward is a disaster.

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 06/04/2016 at 23:26

    Might end up losing out on the season, Look at mitch clarke last year

Sparrow · 06/04/2016 at 18:20

Haven't got Libba… yet.
Got Fyfe, Danger, Priddis, Gray, Shiel, Josh Kelly, B. Kennedy, Mills on field in MID.
Tempted to make some cash trading Goldy –> Blicavs and do Mills –> Libba…
This feels wrong but i feel i'm gonna miss the boat on Libba.
Thoughts community?

    Crowmagnon · 06/04/2016 at 18:25

    This post scares me.
    If you MUST have Libba, you have to get him with 1 trade.

      Sparrow · 06/04/2016 at 18:38

      I needed that voice of reason. Excellent work Crowmagnon

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 06/04/2016 at 23:29

    I thought that as well, but something tells me everything will be ok!

    Trading Goldy down would go against everything about your structure.

      Sparrow · 08/04/2016 at 09:17

      Fine advice Puddleduck

    Lachie · 07/04/2016 at 00:53

    Do not trade goldy

      Sparrow · 08/04/2016 at 09:18

      Tick. Holding on to the big man

    DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 01:09

    I've never heard of that kelly bloke. burn his raggedy arse and get Libba

      Sparrow · 08/04/2016 at 09:20

      Agree thats the only trade really to get Libba in. BUT, I gotta trust my guts on him. He's stepping into the role left by Trealor at the Giants and POD. Sink or swim…

TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/04/2016 at 18:21

See Ruggles got upgraded. Might b a chance for a game on the weekend? Been a gr8 capt loophole first two weeks but now he needs to start generating some cashola.

    Billy Blowhorn · 06/04/2016 at 19:26

    Damn, I was hoping he wouldn't play this year, so he was still cheap for next year

      JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2016 at 12:01

      That's like saying I hope Libba won't play this year so he would still be cheap for next year…lol

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 21:50

    Could come in for a game or two, then back out again depending on certain games and match ups.

    With top up bombers and other good rookies sitting on donuts hoping for them to profit eventually, will no doubt leave you behind the pack.

Wombatsfc · 06/04/2016 at 18:32

Barlower's career average isn't really an indicator for what we can expect this year when you consider that he's in the twilight of his career and hasn't increased his average against any opponent except roos in past 3 years.

Ave for last 3 games against upcoming opponents-playing as a midfielder
eagles 61
Roos 129
Blues 110 -2 of those were when madhouse was coach and even the centre circle scored 60 midfield points against the blues in those days

If barlower sticks to recent average against eagles he'll drop 50k on Sunday night and you wont be able to swap him for performers because they'll all have increased by 50k so that sideways trade will now cost 100k more.
Maybe you're prepared to wear another sub 70 against the eagles just in case he continues his form against the roos in which case he'll only drop another 20k to 430k and he'll still have a 110 or more breakeven.
Anybody who has Barlow but doesn't have all of Papley,Kennedy,Wells,Hall,Kerridge should trade Barlow now

    BigHaydos · 06/04/2016 at 18:58

    thats my problem, ive got barlow but ive also got paps, benken, wells, hall, kerridge…….. rolling around on the floor in frustration

    Andrew · 06/04/2016 at 19:20

    Like the piece Wombat, if I have all those forwards do you recommended keeping or trading Barlow? I'm definitely getting rid of Rocky and have two choices. Parker and Dusty or Gray and Merret. Would love your opinion, thanks.

      Wombatsfc · 06/04/2016 at 20:24

      I'm in that boat with you and the bigfella Andy. if things get bad we should eat the bigfella first to ensure the best survival prospects.
      I was going to hold him but I can't see Barlow turning it around enough for him to be a keeper so may as well trade him.
      I decided to get waite. My team has been smashed with the injury stick already and a couple of bad captains choices have left me well off the pace so I need a left field hail Mary. I'm also hoping Zaha and jj have their worst 3 games of the year over the next 3 weeks

    Andrew · 06/04/2016 at 20:18

    Great point Wombat.

    I have all the mentioned forwards, Do you think I should still trade Barlow? Im definitely trading Rocky and can go either Gray and Merret or Parker and Dusty. Thoughts? Thanks.

      wombatsfc · 06/04/2016 at 21:15

      Yes. he's too expensive to have him fit and on the bench. Who you get for him is up to you as I've already stated that I traded him for Waite which means that I excluded the options you suggested.

        fatboyfat7 · 06/04/2016 at 22:14

        Whats the reasoning behind Waite? Is it for cash generation or do you really think he could be a keeper?

          wombatsfc · 06/04/2016 at 22:44

          Barring suspension I hope that he's a solid f6 this year. If he gets hit by meteorite 5 minutes into 1st qrtr he'll still make 50k. He looks happy and settled at the roos and has buckets of talent

            hedski · 06/04/2016 at 23:01

            And will elbow someone's head (not a bad thing)

            Benjamima Puddleduck · 06/04/2016 at 23:32

            If waite had scored 90 and 99 in the first 2 rounds would you have made that trade?

              wombatsfc · 07/04/2016 at 12:47

              Probably not but if a rainbow coloured unicorn stabbed JJ in the chest would you have traded him in?
              Fact is waite didn't score 90 and 99 he scored 120 something and 160 something and has always been extremely difficult for other teams to match up on, just like JJ didn't get stabbed by the unicorn

                Benjamima Puddleduck · 08/04/2016 at 00:20

                I like that.
                Higgins will go big this week

            Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 10:25

            Point chaser

              wombatsfc · 07/04/2016 at 12:48

              As opposed to what mate? Chasing donuts?

Joe_T · 06/04/2016 at 18:35

Looking at holding Barlow for the moment, I don't like the idea of trading premos if they aren't injured. He has one more week to prove he deserves a spot in my team.

I'm thinking of doing:
McCarthy > Papley (greater cash generation)
Rocky > T Mitchell

My only concern is that can Titch realistically be a top 8-10 midfielder by the end of the season? He's started off well and could be a decent POD but Swans have had comfortable wins in both their games. Thoughts? Cheers in advance!

    BigHaydos · 06/04/2016 at 18:56

    id rather go callan ward. Ward and T Mitchell are in the same boat in regards to being PODs but Ward has been there before(top end midfielder) and plays a crucial role in the Giants Finals chances.

    BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 19:04

    I made the same trades Joe, but I traded out Gresham. Holding Barlow also. As far as Titch goes; it was between him and Blicavs for me. Given his recent performances I am backing Titch to be reasonably reliable this season.

    Joe_T · 06/04/2016 at 19:39

    Didn't even consider Ward, no idea how I missed him since I have him in draft! But definitely a good option. I still like Titch because he will almost never be tagged whereas Ward might be, but Ward's proven record may put him ahead.

    Thanks for the help!

      rowdz · 06/04/2016 at 20:27

      Titch may never be tagged but Sydney use him as their tagger which should be considered

    Danners · 06/04/2016 at 21:30

    Good trades although, Sydney have a lot of talented midfielders that could finish in the top ten eg. Hannebery, JPK, Parker, Titch. Titch might one day, but don't go chasing last weeks points

      Joe_T · 06/04/2016 at 23:22

      Yeah I think out if those four Swans mids, titch is the last one you'd pick to finish as the Swans best midfielder. Yes he's a solid player but Sydney have had 2 easy wins and the points may not come so easy all the time, might have talked myself out of this one.

      I'm really considering Ward as a good option now. Is Zaharakis a good alternative for his price though? Started off on fire and I'll pocket $130k more for bringing him in.

      Joe_T · 07/04/2016 at 00:06

      I'm liking the option of bringing in Blicavs too as a temporary mid and then swing him into r2 when needed as someone suggested further up. He's basically a midfielder that can play as a ruckman in your sc team so he should score reasonably well

      My only concern is that I'd have to look at not having Goldy if i do this since Gawn is my R1

sharmanism · 06/04/2016 at 18:46

OK community this is what my team looks like after punting Barlow and Rocky for Libba and JJ. $425K in the bank for upgrades in coming weeks. Thoughts?

D: JJ, Laird, Birchall, Macmillan, Lonergan, Weitering (Dea, McDonald-Tipungwi)

M: Hall, Danger, Fyfe, Libba, Shiel, Hunter, B Crouch, Hewett (Oliver, Davis, Robinson)

R: Goldie, Gawn (Wyatt)

F: Kennedy, Wells, Adams, Papley,Kerridge, Menadue (Brown, McGovern)

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/04/2016 at 20:46

    How cheap is that fwd line! Who would have thought after two rounds all our rooks would b outscoring our premos?

      sharmanism · 06/04/2016 at 23:41

      I know!

      Will be bolstered with Robbo and Hall shifting in as I add more premiums into my midfield.

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 06/04/2016 at 23:36

    That forward line!
    It looks good now, but i cant see it holding up for a long period.

    Im not convinced on JJ. Looks good but everyone knows he wont maintain that average.

      sharmanism · 06/04/2016 at 23:42

      Hopefully my faith is justified, still looks a better option at the moment than what I've traded out.

Bobby Singh · 06/04/2016 at 18:50

Rocky to Parker, Zaharakis or B. Kennedy?

    BigHaydos · 06/04/2016 at 18:53

    definitely BenKen

Jordan · 06/04/2016 at 18:52

Can i risk playing papley on the field if i trade him in for barlow

    Holty · 06/04/2016 at 20:17

    im doing that. if barlow plays the same roll this weekend, Papley will score more.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/04/2016 at 20:30

      Case of have to with me with wingard on the bench this week.

Couchcoach · 06/04/2016 at 18:53

Hi community your thoughts on
Barlow to Johannisen and back cash or
Barlow to houli and set and forget

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2016 at 12:04

    Option 1, but beware of dogs playing hawks which will provide the ultimate test on how JJ performs against quality teams.

@RealGreekMamba · 06/04/2016 at 18:55

Two options:
Rocky to Hall
Rioli to Papley
200k bank


Gresham to Kennedy
Rioli to Papley
64k bank but miss out on Hall. Hold rocky to next week to upgrade to a falling 600k premium in Priddis/Hanners. Already have Fyfe, Pendles, Danger, Gaz

    SD6_ · 06/04/2016 at 19:59

    Hall is a must have at his price I would of thought. Any fallen premiums could still be picked up in later weeks at a discounted price

Kev · 06/04/2016 at 18:59

Call me a cynic but I reckon the almighty supercoach gods are getting ready to smite those going with a double downgrade this early in the season. Madness!

    sharmanism · 06/04/2016 at 19:06

    Gods are for lesser beings!

    SCaddict · 06/04/2016 at 19:16

    Care to share your trades Mr Kev or are you sticking with your current crew this week?

      Kev · 06/04/2016 at 20:37

      G'day SCaddict. I went in with Broad thinking he'd play early as a mature ager. Had a nice nab cup. He may be chance this week for Grimes' spot, but I'll be swapping to him to Papley via dpp. Don't believe he'll keep his scoring up but the cash he'll make is too hard to ignore for my gnr team.

      I have Barlow and Jeremy McG as concerns, but happy to hold trades for now

        SCaddict · 06/04/2016 at 20:55

        Yes if Broad doesn't get a game this week then swapping him out for Paps will be an easy decision.

        You managed to dodge the Rocky bullet so sounds like your team is in pretty reasonable shape.

          Kev · 07/04/2016 at 08:42

          Yeah I've had a solid start, addict. Ranked just outside 4,000th. Had a few harsh words to myself in the preseason to stop making stupid trades. Usually I have a good season then fall in a heap when the finals roll around

Billy Blowhorn · 06/04/2016 at 19:24

Anyone wanna rate my 2017 SC team?
Backs: Laird, Rance, Hurley, Hooker, Thurlow, Scharenberg, (Rookie, Rookie)
Mids: Ablett, Fyfe, Pendlebury, Parker, Danger, Heppell, Watson, Myers, (Rookie, Rookie, Rookie)
Rucks: Goldstein, Ryder (Loerch)
Fwds: Martin, Merrett, Stringer, Bellchambers, Rookie, Rookie, (Rookie, Rookie)

I prefer Rance over Shaw because Richmond have a good early fixture (Well Carlton Rnd1 anyway)
What do you think?

    Derek · 06/04/2016 at 21:49

    Put the C on TBC

    Where is Dawson? His starting price will be about $95k

    Steeeve · 06/04/2016 at 22:35

    Needs more essendon players

    wombatsfc · 06/04/2016 at 22:52

    Nice team mate but you might want to swap ablett and fyffe for Rocky and Swan. Gaz is too old and couldn't make a single NAB game and Fyffe still has huge doubts about his amputated shoulder broken leg and broken back. Whereas Rocky and Swanny are guaranteed 110 p/week for the whole season.
    You've gone a bit heavy on the cheatingfux but it's understandable when you look at the physical benefits their mystery drugs have delivered in the past

      DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 01:25

      If you didn't mention Swan that would have been a prophetic summary of the 2017 preseason headlines as seen in your crystal balls

    Jake · 07/04/2016 at 00:26

    Was looking good until I saw Bellchambers!

Sammyboy · 06/04/2016 at 19:26

Who to bring in out of Wells, BenKen and Papsmear, pick 2

    SCaddict · 06/04/2016 at 19:29

    I'd go with Wells and BenKen as both have excellent JS and can probably sustain this higher output for longer. Paps is still a fantastic trade in obviously but I would rate the other two as the slightly higher priorities for mine.

      Swans2012 · 06/04/2016 at 21:07


Jackk · 06/04/2016 at 19:31

This is a funny question

Who to start Barlow or Papley? hahaha

    MaccasMarvels · 06/04/2016 at 19:50

    Barlow's on my bench! And De Goey. Paps and Kennedy on field.

    Tophawk · 06/04/2016 at 20:11

    Tell me about it! Well, as Sydney play early, I have Papley on the bench as an E. Petracca is my other bench player. If Papley goes big, I am going to exact revenge by plonking Barlow on the bench and putting Petracca onfield. If that humiliation does not fire Barlow up, I will be prepared to pay extra for JJ and retire Barlow to the paddock next week. Cheers

      hedski · 07/04/2016 at 00:11

      Fire up Barlowsan!!

Mick · 06/04/2016 at 19:42

Just want some thoughts about this:
Gresham to Hewett
and then Barlow to Ablett???

    Danners · 06/04/2016 at 21:28

    Good trades, Ablett should be in most Supercoach teams

    Puck Jump · 06/04/2016 at 21:41

    Hewett NO. He'll be first man out when Reid, McGlynn and McVeigh all come back over the next 2-3 weeks.

Dee · 06/04/2016 at 19:43

How bad is Pendleburry's ribs community? I have him and am concerned about his output for the rest of the year…. Any inside information would be really handy, thanks….

    Phat Man · 07/04/2016 at 10:18

    From what I have heard he is playing with cracked ribs, which is what rocky did last year and we all know how that turned out. Personally I would hold onto pendles until it becomes an issue, you never know, I may not effect him the way it effected rocky.

Tom · 06/04/2016 at 19:43

Should I trade Barlow or Rockliff out?

If I trade Barlow I will have an extra rookie on field and think it might be risky this early

    Danners · 06/04/2016 at 21:26

    Rockliff is out for two weeks, Barlow is playing

MaccasMarvels · 06/04/2016 at 19:49

There's lots of discussion about holding Barlow for another week and if he bottoms out with a 60 odd again, to get rid. But doesn't that just mean a double whammy? S**t score followed by the trade. If he does score rubbish again should we ALL be trading him, or should we just be riding it out……. maybe until byes, or longer?? He had a good NAB challenge…… so hard to read what's going on with him.

    Dee · 06/04/2016 at 20:40

    get rid of him…. less stress with out him in your team I reckon.

      The Mountian · 07/04/2016 at 10:20

      I think with bennell out for another month his role is likely to stay the same which means these shit scores are more than likely to continue.

Tophawk · 06/04/2016 at 20:00

Aaaargghhhh… I have changed my mind.

I was going to trade Barlow to Gibson via dpp. Then Rocky to Robbie Gray. And not trade in Papley this week.

Despite the temptation, I cant friggin do it. I realise that it is too risky and stupid to let a potential 250K+ cash cow slip through my fingers. So, the new plan is this;

Gresham to Papley via dpp. Gresham is a cash cow rookie I started with but with 2 performances of around 40 SC points it appears he will literally turn into a calf where its ribs are exposed. In other words, very little $$$$$.

I will give Barlow another chance. He is a premo that is not injured. He might feel better now that Bennell is not breathing down his neck. (Out indefinately with a calf problem). He may see more midfield time as the Dockers current midfield strategy is spudding badly.

The second trade can still go ahead is planned. Rocky traded out for Robbie Gray. I can't have 550K sitting on the bench without clarity. Rocky will be out for 2. But do not be surprised if it turns into 3 or 4. Calf injuries can take longer to heal than expected. (Example- Harley Bennell) I have Petracca and Loersch as very handy loopholes. No issues there.

Then it is just a matter who I whack the VC on this round…. Robbie Gray or Luke Parker. Tricky one!

Cheers community.

    SCaddict · 06/04/2016 at 20:14

    I agree Tophawk that Papley is a higher priority than Gibbo.

    Barlow is a risk either way whether you keep or trade so it will be interesting to see what happens on the Barlow front over the next fortnight or so. Half of the community will be fuming and the other half will be relieved.

      Tophawk · 06/04/2016 at 20:27

      Thanks SCaddict!

      I am telling ya, if Barlow spuds again this week after two consecutive games in Perth, he will be retired to the paddock for young blood. (eg JJ) Period. Not putting up with Griffin BS this year.

        The Mountian · 07/04/2016 at 10:24

        Tophawk, I have the VC on robbie myself, as he is playing essendon and the number he put up last week appart for the DE where very, very delicious. If he can lift the DE, I see him easily hitting over 150 this week

Matt · 06/04/2016 at 20:22

Looking at the below trade this week:

Yeo to Johannisen and Barlow to Zorko.

What do people think?

    Tophawk · 06/04/2016 at 20:35

    Yeo to Johannisen is a goer IMO.

    Barlow to Zorko wait one more week. No price change applicable for Zorko as he missed round 1. See what Barlow does this round.


      Benjamima Puddleduck · 06/04/2016 at 23:41

      Id keep Yeo, not sure why you would even consider that. Chasing Numbers?

      Barlow to Zorko could be a great trade, only dilemma is holding spudlo for another week.

        Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 00:37

        True but Yeo sucks, just goes missing.

      Jordan · 07/04/2016 at 07:37

      de goey to papley?? or hold cause I sort of like De Goey

    DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 01:15

    Looks good at the moment Matt.
    Barlow to Zorko = has been to points pig
    Yeo to JJ = risk currently doing poorly to risk currently doing brilliantly
    The barlow equation shouldn't change and I doubt that the yeo equation will reverse so, to me they look like brilliant trades.

azza · 06/04/2016 at 20:26

which one out of the 2:
Barlow – parker
Next week:
Rocky – zorko


rocky – parker
Next week: if barlow drops another 60
barlow- zaharakis

    Tophawk · 06/04/2016 at 20:38

    Option 2. With a bit of luck Barlow might produce a decent score this week.

Stewy_the_Swan · 06/04/2016 at 20:28

I'm thinking of trading out Barlow and Rockliff to bring in R. Gray and either Lambert or Waite. Want to get Robbie in before he gets unaffordable and as I have only $1k in the bank atm I need to downgrade Barlow in order to get him. My rookies are good as I have all the main cash cows. Any other suggestions on who to bring in for Barlow? (I need someone with Max price of $460k to go from Rocky to Robbie) Thanks in advance community!

    The Mountain · 07/04/2016 at 10:26

    Far better options than lambert and waite. Although they are flying now I can't see them maintaining this optput all season long. If you don't have Hall, get him in, as well as Zorko or Dusty.

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 11:13

    If going to lock in waite why not cloke?

TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/04/2016 at 20:33

Is it worth trading brown down to papley loosing the DPP with AMT in defence?

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/04/2016 at 20:37

    That one is from my mate who has had a few sherberts and needs some sage like advice. I say yes as papley is a must have due to CASH generation but can also see upside of keeping brown and the DPP. WHAT DO WE RECKON?

      Swans2012 · 06/04/2016 at 20:52

      No, wasted trade, brown doing ok, no guarantee papley carries on like he has, remember the swans won't be in cruise control every week, sure papa goes up faster, but realistically I think they'llend up the sameish $$$ wise, could be wrong though….

    The Ranger · 06/04/2016 at 21:34

    I considered Brown and a heap of other rookies as possible swaps for Paps and have ended up going with McCarthy so as to keep as many possible DPP's.
    As tempting as it was to hold on the trade I want to get as much cash as I can as quickly as I can and I consider two corrective trades at R3 to be acceptable.
    I missed out on Paps and BenKen so it's bye bye Little Lincoln and Gresham.

      The Ranger · 06/04/2016 at 21:36

      Is Brown the only option?

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/04/2016 at 22:56

        Brown, menadue fwd bench.
        amt, hartley def bench.

        Dusty, hall, wells, kennedy, stringer, kerridge fwd line.

          The Ranger · 06/04/2016 at 23:27

          Tough call mate, Hartley would be the one to flick if you can make that work but if you can't and it really is just a call between Paps and Brown I'd prob agree with you and say get Paps.
          Fast cash is good cash.

Keenbutclueless · 06/04/2016 at 20:39

AFL website. Ross Lyon says he is not changing his midfield set up.

    Tophawk · 06/04/2016 at 20:51

    That means that Ross is going to change things up. Barlow to get more time in the guts.

    Ross says one thing and does another.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 06/04/2016 at 20:52

      Ross Lyin' hawk. Ross Lyin'

        Dee · 06/04/2016 at 20:59

        false alarm…

Liam · 06/04/2016 at 21:01

Do we see JJ being a top 10 defender ?
I'm not sure he can keep this up

    SCaddict · 06/04/2016 at 21:14

    Well it will be a huge litmus test against the Hawks this weekend. If he can ton up there it will be hard to deny that he's looking every bit a top defender then.

    The problem with waiting is that he could be $50K more next week but isn't this what makes Supercoach fun?! 🙂

    For if we knew all the answers then no one would come to this site and there would be 200,000 coaches splitting $50,000.

      Dee · 06/04/2016 at 21:18

      how much would that be each SCaddict? I think as it is right now I'll be happy to take the split…. loll

        SCaddict · 06/04/2016 at 21:20

        25c mate. Don't spend it all at once!

          Dee · 06/04/2016 at 21:31

          that's about the value of bloody Barlow right now….

    Danners · 06/04/2016 at 21:25

    Don't expect him to average over 100 but he should be a solid premo option

      Liam · 07/04/2016 at 03:24

      Not expecting that high danners wanting around 95

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 21:59

    Who would you put above him though?

    He'll make top ten because there's bugger all Mid/Def swingmen, there's the usual suspects like Shaw, Gibson, Rance etc but JJ will be up there.

      Liam · 07/04/2016 at 03:25

      Yeh cheers SS. Think I'll lock him in, his price is hard to ignore.

    Steeeve · 06/04/2016 at 22:39

    He almost certainly cannot keep this up. But if he averages 90 from here on without many really low scores you'd be happy with him at D6.
    Same as his teammate The Bont when people were jumping on him after two rounds last year. I was happy to have him before the price jump and keep him as F6.

      Liam · 07/04/2016 at 03:25

      I would be fairly happy with that, think he's in. Cheers Steve

Don't Blush Babbie · 06/04/2016 at 21:15

R,Gray – VC on him, I'm predicting the most popular choice this week ?

    hedski · 07/04/2016 at 00:18

    Only if u have him 😀

Nath · 06/04/2016 at 21:16

Barlow to Ablett… But then no money in bank??

    Danners · 06/04/2016 at 21:24

    At the moment, Ablett should be in all teams

      ball swing · 07/04/2016 at 00:01

      Ablett in all teams???? LOL

      Did you see him last week??? Could barely run out the game.

      Got a good SC score coz he was kissed on the ball bag by CD.

      Zero way his performance last week was worth even a SC ton!!!

    BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 21:25


    SCaddict · 06/04/2016 at 21:27

    Upgrading a struggling premo to a proven super elite averaging 130 … yeah I'd say that works for me!

    Although the continuing Gaz doubters out there like Jock would probably disagree.

    Phil · 06/04/2016 at 21:32

    Do it. Ablett scores 110-120 when he's not playing well, any alternative to him, scores that when they are playing well.

    BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 21:34

    Can you get him another way?

      Nath · 06/04/2016 at 21:46

      Can just trade Barlow to say zaha then wait a week and upgrade someone else from my team.

      To make this trade happen I'm trading Gresham down to make the extra 3 k I'm short for ablett

        Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 22:04

        That's rich

          Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 22:05

          oops replied to wrong comment

        BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 22:10

        If they are your options, Barlow to Ablett seems reasonable.

Phil · 06/04/2016 at 21:18

barlow was on WA News tonight saying there entire midfield bar Neale have played well below the standard they set. At lest he still considers himself part of the midfield

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 22:05

    That's rich

Eric_the_Red · 06/04/2016 at 21:25

Holding Barlow, trading Rocky. Considering a sideways rookie swap from Grimely to Papley, then Rocky to Hall (then swing him to fwd line). Thoughts? Would Papley or Adams be the ideal trade-in this week?

    BloodyFranklin · 06/04/2016 at 21:36

    Tough call if you don't have Hall. Ideally you'd get both!

    JCC · 08/04/2016 at 14:20

    Trade Barlow and keep rocky 1 more round. Barlow's price is going to drop, Rockys not playing so price will hold for a trade next week. Brisbane are also playing last so Rocky can be your Captains Loophole for this week.

Glenn · 06/04/2016 at 21:31

Give me your thoughts on my team ranked 835th overall and traded barlow/robbie grey and sheridan down weitering to get grey in!




Dalhaus,greene,papley,hall,wells,kerridge (petracca,menadue)

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 22:08

    Off to a good start but it's only been 2 rounds.

    Gresham is poor. Brand and Petracca are two more donuts on top of chol.

    2nd half of the year might get tougher for you to hold high ranks with less profit than many teams.

      Glenn · 06/04/2016 at 22:15

      Petracca will play, brand unsure but has been an emergency both weeks another injury or 2 might see game time and chol is my loophole for year,

      My theory is my mids bar mills are all keepers unless injured, rucks are set so my future goals are all fwd and def upgrades fingers crossed haha

      Glenn · 06/04/2016 at 22:18

      The only big rookie im missing is kennedy as well, started with adams,papley

    Southern S · 06/04/2016 at 22:11

    Off to a good start but it's only been 2 rounds.

    I'd sit tight on Sheridan and Barlow and do rookie corrective trades.

      Glenn · 06/04/2016 at 22:22

      Whick rookies?

        Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 00:33

        Kennedy stands out as someone you don't have who should get to around the 450k mark if he stays on track.

        Hartley maybe next week.

    DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 01:16

    Not a bad team Glenn I'd say you should be ranked in the low 800's after 2 rounds.

Brem · 06/04/2016 at 21:51

Can't ignore the cash generation fellas. Plus – I have my trades bang on the money – so my allocated corrective rookie trades become corrective premo trades. Gotta have a plan, but ya gotta adapt quickly.

Barlow down to Hall for 80K win straight away, plus Barlow will drop 50K next week, and Hall will rise 30-40. Could be 200K better off with one trade. Significant cash generation.

Rich to Johannisen in defense is a no brainer too. Seen enough from Johannisen to suggest barring injury he will finish the season as one of the top 6 defenders. Won't get him this cheap for the rest of the season. Rich battling injury again too. Warning bells going off re Rich. Out.

Keeping Rockliff. For now. Will come good.

    DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 01:19

    Thanks Brem I'll alert the media.

Hawks · 06/04/2016 at 22:10

Appreciate the communities thoughts.

2 trades this week, 1 up & 1 sideways, 1 forced & 1 to generate extra cash.

Rockliff to Ablett
Dunkley to Papley (via DPP)

Means retaining Barlow and Petracca. Got all of the other must have rookies, and top performing mid-pricers.

    hedski · 06/04/2016 at 23:09


Francis · 06/04/2016 at 22:38

Gray or T. Mitchell?

    fatboyfat7 · 07/04/2016 at 00:24

    I went Gray but only because I have Hannebury, Parker and Mills on field already with Hewett on the bench. Both are solid picks but I'd still be leaning towards Gray…

Snowball · 06/04/2016 at 22:41

If Pendles has cracked ribs (and someone earlier wrote that Rocky had a similar ailment last year) what to do? He is a great player and he maybe targeted? I need a crystal ball to determine if his output will be diminished, will he be rested etc because if he has an injury problem, now is the time to trade. Buckley mentioned earlier that he has 'a difficulty'.

    magpie4ver · 06/04/2016 at 22:48

    I have Pendels to, think you just have to wait and see right now and go week to week? Tigers targeted him and they failed……. he scored 110 against the tigers. Yes he's a worry and hate to hear that but as long as he plays or if he gets knocked out then you trade him out. But right now just go with the flow.

    Matt · 06/04/2016 at 23:17

    He apparently had cracked ribs last week too, yet he had about 15 disposals in the first quarter. I'd definitely suggest holding him until the injury is clearly having an effect on his performance.

    ball swing · 07/04/2016 at 00:04

    he will struggle and wont be able to run out the games with less interchanges.

    yeah he may start the first half well but he will be struggling for breaths later in the game.

    plus he is clearly playing back alst week and forward which aint good.

    Jimi · 07/04/2016 at 00:15

    I think I may have been the one you're referring to about mentioning Rocky's broken ribs in the Tuesday podcast thread.

    The thing with broken ribs is that generally you can play fine, I just don't expect Pendles to be going crashing packs looking for CPs for the next 4-5 weeks because he'll be ginger and looking to protect himself a bit. Buckley had him running off halfback last week and he racked up 110, hopefully that continues. He's not going to miss games so at this stage I'm just going to sit with him until he recovers. Proven longterm champ, he won't pull a Barlow/Griffin on us.

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 00:30

    110 is fine, simple as that really. Stress about it when he doesn't perform.

Phil · 06/04/2016 at 23:05

Patch put out a team after NAB week 1 that featured Johannissen & Z.Merrett. Damn, I hope he went with both of those in the end.

    LEKD0G · 07/04/2016 at 12:21

    Went with JJ but not Merrett and I haven't let him forget about it

Connor · 06/04/2016 at 23:10

Could someone please tell me why Lekdog is not continuing with his almighty 'Mo SuperCoach News' segment? It was by far my favourite thing on this website last year! Maybe we should start a petition to get it up and running again…

panther · 06/04/2016 at 23:13

what are the best trade options]

option 1:
adams/viney out for Rgray/titch then next week downgrade cutler to hartley then upgrade de goey to a fwd premo

option 2:
viney/barlow out for Rgray/zmerret then next week downgrade cutler to hartley then upgrade de goey to a fwd premo

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 00:28

    Why would you trade out adams?

    DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 01:19

    Are you a Penrith Panther who's not paying full attention to the Australian game?

The Ranger · 06/04/2016 at 23:31

Where's Mick Da Mad Irishman
I'd love to hear how he's viewing this year so far.
Any chance of some trade wisdom on the website Mick?

Benjamima Puddleduck · 06/04/2016 at 23:45

nearly 12k people have traded in JJ this week!

BC · 06/04/2016 at 23:55

he looked in good shape last week Ninja. Hall, Saad etc just kept swooping it our of defence before the Cannon could get near it. As you know form and points though are two different things

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2016 at 10:31

    Cheers BC, and it looks like he is playing on the last line of defense as a 'quarterback' when they need him to generate a long kick out of defense except the Suns arn't relying on their quarterback as much lol

Jimi · 07/04/2016 at 00:08

God I hope he gets tagged out of existence this week!

    GoldRush · 07/04/2016 at 00:16

    Tad Nasty!

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 00:55

    Because you don't have him and are too scared to take a risk on a young and in form player?

    DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 01:07

    By who Jim? There are a couple of blokes in the bully middle that need tagging and maybe another up front. Hawks are already missing their primary forward and need all fowards to be more offensive to score enough to win games. Apart from cyril nobody in hawks fwd line can catch him but Cyril has the endurance of an ice cream in mid-summer
    I hope you haven't got him

Jake · 07/04/2016 at 00:17

DEF: R. Laird, M. Adams, H. Shaw, J. Weitering, J. Bartel, M. Dea / Walla + Brown
MID: G. Ablett, P. Dangerfield, T. Liberatore, B. Kennedy, N. Fyfe, O. Wines, C. Mills, T. Rockliff / Davis + Gresh + Keays
RUCK: N. Naitanui, T. Goldstein + Grimley
FWD: A. Hall, D. Wells, S. Kerridge, T. Greene, C. Menadue, M. Barlow / Pap + Petracca

Aside from Rockliff, I've dodged most traps. I've got basically the best set of rookies, so I won't bother with a Gresham to Hewett or anything stupid like that. I'm aware Keays hasn't played but he'll be named this week surely. Not afraid of making 2 trades, but I'm not sure I actually need to. Will probably trade Rocky at this stage, however I see more upside in keeping Barlow. Will become a POD DPP in an angry, and improving side that will likely change it's game plan to advantage him this week. Has a good average against upcoming opponents too. Someone make a case to sell him? Could possibly get JJ and swing Adams fwd, thought I was clever thinking that up Sunday night, turns out that's what everyone is doing, so I'm a bit put off by going with the crowd now.

I'm not deadset on anything, so any feedback is appreciated.

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 00:47

    Gresh backfired, Keays if he plays will eventually go up a bit by round 5.

    Petracca who knows, could be similar. Too many donuts for my liking and could have been avoided by looking at teams announced on round one.

      Jake · 07/04/2016 at 01:21

      My thinking there is that Keays will play this week, too early for a downgrade option, and with a lack of midfield rookies I took the class option that was likely to play early.

      Petracca much the same, looking good and I think he'll play as early as round 5, so i'm happy to hold him.

    DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 01:31

    Barlow has made his own case to sell him.
    1. He was a risky choice to start
    2. He has proved that the risk is genuine
    3. He's 500k and wont be a top 20 fwd this year


      Jake · 07/04/2016 at 02:25

      Good points, in the end it may come down to where he's named on the field for me.

      MaccasMarvels · 07/04/2016 at 12:40

      That is one of the most succinct rationales of why Barlow should be sold that I have seen since the weekend. Hmmm…….

DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 00:34

I'm feeling like an outsider due to not having to worry about having Barlow in my team and not needing to trade in any of high scoring rookies.
At least I've got Rocky.

    Rick Grimes · 07/04/2016 at 08:21

    I'm happy to sell you my Barlow if you want. Got a few too many K's on the clock, not running on all cylinders and will struggle to hit 100. $400k ono.

      DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 09:15


    Benjamima Puddleduck · 07/04/2016 at 22:50

    Im kind of with you there, i got rid of Barlow last week =)
    and no Rocky though, missed that boat.

    My Dilemma is do i trade Gaff out or not, most likely not.

    Im trying to find, but someone mentioned Fyfe hadn't trained this week…?
    Need to see if it is legit

DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 00:42

With the reduction in 'Out of Bounds' and subsequent throw ins can we expect the average ruck score to drop ?
Based on the first 2 rounds it may be the case. I'm not talking massive reductions, maybe 10-20 points p/game lost due to reduced opportunities for taps to advantage not being in the play as much, but with that in mind maybe a ruck averaging 100 could be a top 2?
If so Blicavs looks very tasty

    Dee · 07/04/2016 at 05:43

    are you gonna bring him in this week? I've got Nic Nat and Goldy…. can't really bring him in now even as a midfielder as I don't believe he will finish as a top 8 mid, unless one of my rucks get injured then he is definitely my first option…. I put him ahead of Maxxy Gawn that's for sure.

    Holty · 07/04/2016 at 09:26

    valid points but we were saying this last year with the point changes. at the same time, still been some great scores by the rucks so far. i guess only time will tell but either way, i have goldy and martin and they will still score me points around the ground

    LEKD0G · 07/04/2016 at 12:25

    This is a valid point, Ill put it to Higgo

DadSmasher · 07/04/2016 at 00:51

DHS officers were called to a primary school in South Perth today after a child revealed during a lesson called 'What my Dad Does" that his father was a male prostitute for visiting homosexual sailors.
It was later revealed that young master Barlow was just too embarrassed to tell the class what his dad really does.

    Liam · 07/04/2016 at 01:36

    Ahahah that is gold.

      Dee · 07/04/2016 at 05:52

      loll… I just can't stand having Barlow in my team anymore, even tho he's not injured. I can't trust what Ross Lyon wants to do with him, who knows…. plus he doesn't lay tackles, he doesn't run as hard enough either and seems to me that he's just cruising along. I don't need the headache specially this early and getting rid of him means I don't have to worry about the bloke anymore for the rest of the year, I should have picked Hall at the start of the season over him. In saying that I'll bring Hall in next week for Gresham….. Barlow down to Papley this week.

        william gates · 07/04/2016 at 09:56

        griffen no. 2 he came good don't know about this bloke a ball magnet not long ago and 18 contested pos. v geelong nab tough call maybe cop the loss of 50000 and keep I donno but I will keep him came down heads

Rick Grimes · 07/04/2016 at 06:43

I'm holding Barlow for another week (assuming he's actually picked for round 3). Not so much because I think he'll turn it around, but more for the fun of backing an outsider. He's like that nag paying $50 that you know could get up for a win, but probably won't. It's still exciting to have a crack, until the final 300 metres when you realise the fave is gonna win.

    Derek · 07/04/2016 at 11:15

    He could be the "Dandy Andy" 🙂

      Beezneez · 07/04/2016 at 12:25

      I backed Dandy Andy (courtesy of my system) and cleaned up with the trifectas. PS don't back horses anymore though.

Jack · 07/04/2016 at 06:46

The only rook I missed is Ben Ken. Is it worth trading rocky to Ben ken when I can afford Robbie Gray? Will make $$$ but lose points. AAAGHhH decisions, decisions

    Rick Grimes · 07/04/2016 at 08:18

    One move retains your team structure, the other sends you in a new direction. Rocky was picked as a keeper, so if you downgrade him, that adds an extra upgrade to the equation. If you are strong on other lines, it's certainly not a bad move.

    Bottom line, if you think Kennedy can maintain a 100 average for the next few weeks til you can upgrade him, good call.

    If not, get Gray in and take those 120s and wait for the next "must have" rookie – which there will be.

Rick Grimes · 07/04/2016 at 06:53

One final thought on Barlowgate – which is turning into a Days of our Lives type saga. When I look at my forward line I have 5 of 6 players averaging 100+, Barlow's spudtastic 60 and Menadue on the bench. I should be pretty happy with that. That the 60 belongs to a supposed premo and not a rookie is obviously causing scrotum pain, but the rest of the line is carrying him at present. That lessons the hurt and buys some time to make the right move.

    BloodyFranklin · 07/04/2016 at 09:27

    I'm in a similar boat mate, I am holding Barlow for another week. I think the scrotal pain would be a bit more severe if you were to trade him out and he finally gets his shit together (like those who traded Fyfe out last week).

    Derek · 07/04/2016 at 11:08

    Very good point, you can't have all the best players and you can't expect them all to do well.

    I remember a few years ago the winner started the year with Cotchin and had him all year. He wasn't great but he did ok.

Tom · 07/04/2016 at 09:37

Any mid got fyfe and gaj

william gates · 07/04/2016 at 10:03

Barlow And Rocky Loss Or Win figure it out

carmzz · 07/04/2016 at 10:26

Hi guys, first time here a veteran in supercoach though
don't have papley but have rookies whom all are playing

Stuck with barlow and rocky

going to trade rocky for parker
should I trade barlow out? or Papley In for barlow or other rookie?
or leave team just trade rocky

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 11:08

    You'd be doing the same trades as 100,000 other people just think about that.

    The amount of times Ive seen Rocky>Parker, Barlow>Papley is ridiculous.

    Could be the right thing to do but if it backfires think how many people you'll have an advantage over if you don't do it.

Kelly's gang · 07/04/2016 at 10:28

Think of a 2 part trade and just want thoughts please
This week – out barlow and degoey In. Hall and Papley
Next week – out. Mckenzie and Rockliff In Fyfe and jj

Any thoughts on this please

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 10:56

    Like this week's trades.

    Not a huge fan of next week's planned trades.

    Rocky would've sat out one week so why not wait another to see how goes?

    JJ would've increased in price too.

JTG · 07/04/2016 at 10:28

Going to go McCarthy down do Papley and then Rockliff up to Grey
Thoughts Community

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 10:53

    Not a fan of trading McCarthy. He's going to make a decent amount of cash.

    Only if Cockatoo takes his spot should it even come into consideration.

      SCaddict · 07/04/2016 at 10:56

      Also the Cats are playing the depleted Lions at the Cattery this weekend and it's just the sort of game a small forward could prosper in. If he can score an 80 odd there or more he'll be right back on track cash generation wise. Then the following week the Cats have the Bombers.

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2016 at 11:01

    Hold Mcartney, he looks set in the cats best 22 as a small fwd and generate good cash. Would rather do Rockliff to Papley

james · 07/04/2016 at 10:32

which rookie should i start onfield





    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 11:05

    Take your pick.

    Menadue vs Crows? I don't think that will be big for him.

    Gresham vs Collingwood? Could be an option as he's probably due for a decent game.

    Hewett vs GWS? Had his first good score at the SCG round one. Could be an option….although could get dropped.

    Davis vs Carlton? I don't mind this option and most won't play Davis on field. GCS should have a good game at metricon.

    Good luck.

Shake n bake · 07/04/2016 at 11:11

Should I trade out Barlow for J Kennedy or B Kennedy?

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 11:44

    B Kennedy and grab JPK later when he goes down in price as one of your first upgrades.

    JamiesNinjas13 · 07/04/2016 at 12:05


    william gates · 07/04/2016 at 12:23

    what about Graeme or john franklin maybe Jackie whats the thing about keneddys

Win5 · 07/04/2016 at 11:15

Teams still to be released.
Option 1: Gresham – Papley. Kerridge into midfield and hold Rocky on bench. I also have Barlow and Rich. This would mean just 1 trade and keeping Rockliff, Rich and Barlow.
Option 2: Do the above trade and also Rocky – JJ. Then 2 trades are done and I've got rid of Rocky
Option 3: Gresham – Papley. Move Menadue to midfield. Papley to forwardline and Rocky- R Gray
Option 4: Barlow – Papley, Gresham – JJ and using Dual Position bring M Adams down to FWD.

Sana · 07/04/2016 at 11:24

For those with Rocky and Barlow who're unsure what to do, here's my plan:

I will trade Barlow this week as he's about to bleed up to 50k (in my case I'll get in Papley) and keep Rocky as he won't bleed cash. Next week if Barlow pulls a 120+ vs the Eagles I'll bring him back in for Rocky at a discounted price (by swapping Kerridge or Kennedy into the middle). This allows me 1. to get Papley which I would do one way or another anyway for his 100k price rise 2. Offload Rocky without losing cash – who's durability is highly questionable 3. Gain an advantage on Barlow by trading at current price, looking at him this week and if keen get him in at a cheaper rate (after assessing his game, his score, his new breakeven etc.) of course if he spuds it up I'll just get someone else.

    william gates · 07/04/2016 at 12:18

    two picks for paps for 92000 dumb mate dumb trade gres a spud

      Sana · 07/04/2016 at 12:22


        Sana · 07/04/2016 at 12:32

        Not sure what you're saying there mate. This plan has 2 trades – one to get in Papley for cash generation, 2 to get rid of Rocky. Its just that both may involve Barlow, but only if Barlow performs, if not he's gone for good.

          william gates · 07/04/2016 at 14:24

          imo a trade is worth more than the 100000 you will make just my throopence worth

    Holty · 07/04/2016 at 13:23

    This is what the community is about, helping solve these problems. You are planning on trading Barlow out but maybe bringing him back if he performs next week? That is a big NO. You either trade him out because you have lost faith in him or you keep him. Just to save a little bit of money is not worth these 2 trades. If you really want Papley, simply trade out Rocky for him via DPP but bring in another Premo to replace.
    Trades are to important to waste this early in the season.

      Sana · 07/04/2016 at 13:55

      No worries fellas, of course you're entitled to your opinion, it is just a theory.

      The big NO you refer to has been performed in the past by Supercoach winners. Sometimes there are circumstances when a player underperforms meaning they line themselves up for a substantial price drop (in some cases not even, they may be injured hence their price doesn't change). Their situation renders them not useful to your team at that time, but when certain factors change (like they're no longer injured, or a positional change which could be the case with Barlow or their price to output ratio is improved) they again become SC relevant.

      Understand this is not a conventional move and not even ideal, but to suggest a player should not be brought in after you've moved them is rather limiting considering the number of factors that can alter a players output. Players start slow for varying reasons and finish strong for varying reasons. If you'd ditched one of these players who came good you wouldn't trade them back in just because its against your Supercoach ethics? C'mon now… as I said, not ideal, not conventional, but you can't say you just wouldn't.

      Ideally this would only happen after giving them a few rounds to prove themselves, therefore I'd probably wait more than one week to bring back Barlow – but if he flicked the switch and started providing what we hoped through more midfield time I'd have no qualms about bringing him back, especially if no other forwards were putting their hand up.

      Lets just say, if I get rid of Barlow now and he ends up the best forward at the end of the season, he'll be in my team.

      Check what he does with Sandilands:

Ben · 07/04/2016 at 12:03

Ive got:
B:Shaw, KK, Rich, Adams, Hartley, Weitering (Brown, Dea)
M: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Parker, Rocky, Libba, Mills, De Goey (Oliver, Davis, Keays)
R: Gawn, Smith (Goetz)
F: Hall, Steele, Wells, Kennedy, Greene, Kerridge (Tippa, Papley)

Thinking of booting Rocky and Barlow. Have $133K.

Thinking Robbie Gray and need a forward/mid?

tom · 07/04/2016 at 12:08

barlow/rocky – zerret/parker

next week
cutler/degoey – hartley/dusty

are these good trades

TRIGGER HAPPY · 07/04/2016 at 12:15

Well I've had nearly 4 days to change my mind and think about it but nothing has changed going with my original plan.

Rocky – JJ via DPP with longeran.
Barlow – Parker via DPP with Kennedy.
Next week:
Longeran – Gray. Rookie downgrade.

I think it is best to get Parker first as he will go up more than gray?

Mid after trades: Danger , priddus, god, gray, sheil, parker, duncan, b crouch.

Beagz · 07/04/2016 at 12:36

To anybody bringing in Blicavs: THINK

I'm not sure why he is even being talked about, if you didn't start with him, don't chase last weeks points. When trading in blokes, we ask ourselves two questions:

1. Will they be top 10 for their position?
2. Can I make >100k from the trade?

On both these questions, it's a solid NO to Blicavs.

Mister_Spock · 07/04/2016 at 12:45

Been agonizing like everyone else on what to do with Barlow and Rocky. Really want to bring in Gray for Rockliff, but need to trade out Barlow to generate the cash to do this.

Head is telling me to trade both bastards, but gut is telling me to hold Barlow for the following reasons:

1. Barlow's NAB form was consistent with his career form against Tigers, Cats and Crows (20-30 possies, plenty of tackles and scores of 110-plus).
2. First two games against Bulldogs and Suns has also been consistent with his career scores against these teams. Prior to this season, his previous scores against the Sun's have been 56, 117, 79 and 76. Against the Bulldogs he has scored 64, 114, 97, 74 and 52.
3. There's no doubt that Barlow will improve in coming rounds, the question is what is his ceiling this year – will he average 90-95 points and will he be in the top 10 forwards this year? If the answer to that question is yes, then we're wasting a trade by getting rid of a potential keeper.

Has the game passed him by? Is he now too slow (I haven't seen any of the Freo games). Barlow's scoring has usually been based on his tackling and contested possessions which I'm not so sure are based on speed (think Sam Mitchell) but how much time he spends in the guts.

Bloody Ross Lyon.

Jordan · 07/04/2016 at 13:04

Do i trade out de goey for papley?

    SCaddict · 07/04/2016 at 13:14

    Assuming you don't have better trade out options like a bench donut then I'd say yes pull the trigger there.

    I'm hoping to give De Goey another week or two to show his worth but he's been a disappointment thus far.

      Dillon Panthers · 07/04/2016 at 15:05

      Hey SC was wondering your thoughts on this one. I have wyatt and grimley as my fwd/ruck swingers. I need to get papley in so I've flicked wyatt and decided if either goldy or Nic Nat go down I'll just trade them out or chance an egg or two if grimley doesn't get any games. I'm leaning towards holding Barlow and rocky. I'm looking at Barlow to jj next week if they stay on their respective scoring paths and I want to give rocky every chance because he is a scoring pig. I figure my trade this week is a corrective which allows me to sleep at night and it's my only trade so far. This is my most likely plan of action but I have been yes no all week. Just need some outside opinions. Thanks mate

        SCaddict · 07/04/2016 at 22:42

        Definitely get Papley in for Wyatt – excellent trade! If you also don't have either Adams, BenKen, Wells, Hall or Libba I would also bring them in with your second trade this week.

        And if that means either Barlow or Rocky has to go to make way for one of the above I'd do that without hesitation.

william gates · 07/04/2016 at 13:09

Ninety per cent of all supercoach players have got it wrong and are in it only for fun and league wins which is great but the ten per cent like myself don't make stupid moves. It is divided into 3 parts first research to select your premiums cash cows and stepping s tones second correction usually in round 2 but could be 3 as well thirdly tradeing this is where we are now…buying and selling.. To do really well in sc you need 2 things a good knowledge of Australian Rules and a mathematical nouse…I have algorithms on available data that enables me to figure out who to trade in and out and what week up to byes .Round 16 you should befull premium with at least 9 trades left.The 90 per cent wont. if you have a bad run you still shouldn't waver from your initial plan..Derek is your perfect example he will be hit badly this week and next if he goes off course and panics ie trades for points he is shot he wont do that corrective moves them back to plans Hedski appears the same .I am 500 behind the leaders and will drop another 100 this week and round 4 but still have my trades still have Barlow and Rocky and catcing up weekly on the front silly tradeing runners..round 16 I will have a cripps type on the pine where these front runners will have Gresham and McCarthy on field. My Point don't waste your research and valuable planning on impulse tradeing

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 13:39

    First post of yours I've actually been able to understand.

    And people playing for fun or league wins aren't doing anything 'wrong' they just have a different approach to supercoach you.

      Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 13:39

      than you*

    Sana · 07/04/2016 at 13:58

    Are you the Microsoft guy? You are so smart, you probably know everything that is going to happen because you invented time travel. How else can you know what yourself and everyone else will be doing round 16? You're amazing.

      william gates · 07/04/2016 at 14:38

      Its called probabilities from existing current data . for instance polies use it from surveys and can within reason predict a coalition win by 10 seats..from available data we can within reason predict Menadue may score around 80sc points.. your point about a conventional double move on Barlow for 100000 just doesn't stack up but tell me I am wrong my corrective move was to dump fyfe after 150 and a non performing rook for wells and parker both will be ther well into season

        sam · 07/04/2016 at 14:46

        thought I WAS THE ONLY ONE TO DO THAT seems both you and me didn't do due diligence on wells but your point is taken Its only a game but like yourself and many others Iwant to do the best I can and this definetly involves tradeing wisely as you so correctly point out bill

          Sana · 07/04/2016 at 14:58

          I hope for your own sanity that you win the whole thing Bill.

        Dillon Panthers · 07/04/2016 at 14:58

        Why did you dump Fyfe?

    hedski · 07/04/2016 at 15:02

    I did what now?

    Derek · 07/04/2016 at 16:15

    Hi Will. Nice discussion. I like the special mention. SuperCoach is like most things, the more you practice, the luckier you become.

    I've got some serious challenges, Pendles, rich, rocky, Wingard & Barlow. I may make one trade this week if Gresham isn't picked to Paps, otherwise I stick to the course.

      BigHaydos · 07/04/2016 at 17:45

      Derek you have given me the courage to stick the course! I have all the right rookies. I also have barlow and Dan Rich, and I will NOT be making any trades this week. Going to slap the VC on robbie gray and prayer.

      thanks for the wisdom brother. good luck this round

        Derek · 07/04/2016 at 21:11

        Thanks. I see Lobbe going huge

steve · 07/04/2016 at 15:05

williamas as a retired lecturer on mathematics your views on data vs probabilities is certainly correct but supercoach needs a heck of a lot lot of luck too. When Bruyn won he ran out of trades prior to finals but had dpp and a magnificent bench also the buddy factor was that not luck I am middle range hoping to do better and without doubt no way I will trade out barlow and rockliffe not yet anyway trades too valuable

Derek · 07/04/2016 at 16:19

People with Hall. Do you believe he will be in the top 8 forwards of this year? Or do you have him for cash generation?

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 16:30

    I'm a believer.

    steve · 07/04/2016 at 16:38


    Hawks · 07/04/2016 at 20:28

    Cash generation, but will enjoy the ride for as long as I can, maybe the last upgrade.

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 07/04/2016 at 22:59

    Keeper, he will prove himself enough(while the other boys are warming the bench) to keep his seat where it is for the entire year.

    sven · 08/04/2016 at 14:35

    I have him and glad of it, hoped for cash but he may stay the course…is reminding me of bontepellis start to last year

Jame · 07/04/2016 at 18:52

So i dont have either papley or ben kennedy… i have rockliff and barlow as well so i dont what to do. should i downgrade barlow and rockliff to papley and ben kennedy or downgrade barlow to papley and upgrade rocky is priddis or someone… NEED HELP!! (i i also have grimley gresham that can be traded)

    john · 07/04/2016 at 19:20

    I would only downgrade one of those and for me it has to be Rocky. I am probably going Rocky to Kennedy as he is the only rookie of note I missed out on picking. Keeping Barlow as I don't think it is great to trade premo's after a couple of bad rounds. They always tend to pop up and score a monster when I do and I regret it. Rocky is different as is injured. 26 with a calf injury is unlikely to be 1-2 weeks. More like 4 so I think he has to go. His price wont change and if you want to paint the fence later with a rookie who has appreciated in price you can snap him back up after he plays one round and drops in price.

    Southern S · 07/04/2016 at 19:49

    Can you do Grim and Gresh to Pap and Ken?

      Jame · 07/04/2016 at 21:06

      2k short 🙁

Payton · 07/04/2016 at 19:42

Hold Hold Hold…firt week Greene, Laird, Houli all didn't fire…key was not to panic…held my nerve and delivered in spades in Rd 2

Strongly considering Rockliff and his immediate playing future. My sources say he is only a 2 week injury and will be back in week 3. Think carefully he's averaging 68, so if your bench cover can get ~68 (hopefully) better and the rest of your team is in good nick, just HOL HOLD HOLD onto Rocky he will deliver when back and at the time you need him most at the tail end of the season.

As a veteran player and regular top 1% finisher, what you don't want is to get rid of a Premo in Rocky, to get in another promo and they get injured or more than lily deliver a mediocre return

All the best everyone!

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 07/04/2016 at 23:03

    I dont have Rocky, if i did he would be gone.
    I didnt pick him for two reason he had interrupted preseason and a shit injury riddle season last year.
    If he is going to be any good, its after the byes.

Hayden · 07/04/2016 at 20:20

Hey,who to get for Rockliff, danger, Parker, gray, priddis, Mitchell, merrett, ward, Zorko, Mitchell or zaharakis

Mick · 07/04/2016 at 21:05

Just want some thoughts about this: 3 options
1- Gresham to Parish and Hold Barlow
2- Gresham to Parish and Barlow to Parker
3 – Gresham to McGovern (Adel) and Barlow to Ablett

Thanks community

    Coach · 07/04/2016 at 21:29

    ABLETT is Back.. Get him in now !!!

dognino · 07/04/2016 at 21:30

My dilemma . Who to make C this week? I don't have a loophole player as grimly plays Friday night.
C choices are, Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe, danger, Libba. Smokies in S.Martin , Nic Nat, JJ

ST74 · 07/04/2016 at 21:32

Evening Community. Trade options this week:
1) Yeo to JJ and Rocky to Parker
2) Simpkin to Papley and Rocky to Parker
3) Simpkin to Papley and Rocky to Ablett
4) Simpkin to Papley and Rocky to S Mitchell
5) Yeo to JJ and Simpkin to Papley

Any thoughts or advice greatly appreciated.


    ST74 · 08/04/2016 at 13:01

    Another option is to keep Rocky and do the Yeo trade and trade Barlow to Parker or Ablett. Is this a better option.

      Jimi · 08/04/2016 at 13:27

      Got to disagree. Had Barlow out earlier but With Mundy now out, Barlow named in the followers and Freo changing back to their old structure this week you've gotta give Barlow another week.

      Rocky has to go, because of injury he offers no upside until probably the byes (unless you need a late loophole option this week).

      Any trade with Simpkin to Papley and Rocky to a premo/ultra premo mid is a winner IMO.

        ST74 · 09/04/2016 at 08:19

        Thanks Jimi. Sound advice. The only reason I can think of for keeping Rocky this week is for the captaincy loophole but I don't want to miss out on Parker.

marvinnimmy · 07/04/2016 at 21:45

would you go elliot yeo to johanison or barlow? or just hold

    BloodyFranklin · 07/04/2016 at 22:18

    Don't bring Barlow in if you haven't got him bruv.

      marvinnimmy · 07/04/2016 at 22:37

      sorry mate that was meant to say should i drop yeo or barlow for JJ.

        Jimi · 08/04/2016 at 13:32

        I'd hold.

Joe_T · 07/04/2016 at 22:41

Think I've almost settled on the idea of doing Rocky > Blicavs, I'm not so certain on which mids are going to finish in the top 10 but Blicavs is almost certain to be a top 4 ruck at worst, potential to be even better than that. Bring him into my midfield, swing him into R2 when my ruck starts underperforming, and then bring in a premo mid who's shown that he can keep it up.

I was toying with the idea of Ward or Titch but I'd rather bring in a player who's proven in their position that they can deliver. I'm not convinced any of the mids around Rocky's price would finish top 10 just yet.

Fotios · 08/04/2016 at 00:17

Making money this week – Waite for Barlow. My first and only trade.

my team:

Def: Shaw, Gibson, JJ, Weitering, Dea, Adams (M.Brown, Tipa)

Mid: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Priddis, Cripps, Liba, Wells, Mills (Greesham, Petracca, Davis)

Ruck: Goldy, Gawn (Grimley)

Fwd: Waite, Hall, Stringer, Kennedy, Kerridge, Papley (Manadue, McGovern)

Ave 2,285 after two rounds.

Premo Help · 08/04/2016 at 08:19

Hey guys,

I'm definately trading out Rocky for Parker. Do I hold Barlow? He's on ball this week & I feel the dockers have to bounce back but he's looked sluggish at best. I have 28k in the bank with no obvious issues otherwise.

    Kim · 08/04/2016 at 10:23

    I don't care that he's supposedly on ball this week,mhe's going to lose money this week and next no matter what, if u don't trade him this week in my opinion you should keep him all year and ride it out. I thought he would be in the top 6-8 forwards this year. After the first 2 games that is not going to happen at all. Zac Merrett at Essendon will be though, young, on the way up, is a goal kicker, will get plenty of the ball at Essendon. If he plays 22 games will be in the top 6-8 forwards which is why I'm trading him in for Barlow. I'm not trading him in for cash generation like a lot of other people are, I'm trading him because of his role change and he is old and slow and the limited rotations are not going to help him. They haven't seemed to bother Merrett at all. If you are going to trade Barlow in my opinion it needs to be for someone who you think is going got be in the top 6-8 in the mids, forwards or even defenders as you can swap him for someone like jj as well, who despite all the doubters I think will be in the top 6-8 defenders come seasons end (barring injury of course), same reasons as Merrett, young, on the way up, doggies will do well this year. Even though I know Essendon is going to get smashed a lot this year, they will still challenge teams like Brisbane, Carlton, st kilda and Melbourne, and cause a few teams headaches if they take them lightly.minstill see Merrett who is playing midfield getting a lot of the ball and scoring 80+ even in belting sad he won't get tagged, that will go tomgoddard and Zaha before him.

      Jimi · 08/04/2016 at 13:43

      Agree Merrett is a great pick. Very consistent, developing player. Averaged 88 last year and didn't score below 73. At best he is 3rd in line for the tag. Even though Bombers will get smashed most weeks the points still have to go somewhere and he's right at the top of the pile. Won't maintain his current average but he's a good chance to settle at around 100 this season IMO.

        Jimi · 08/04/2016 at 13:44

        Still under 6% ownership too.

Shake n bake · 08/04/2016 at 11:29

Is it worth trading B Crouch for B Kennedy?

    Jimi · 08/04/2016 at 13:35

    Considering B crouch hasn't been setting the world on fire and now hasn't been named because of hamstring tightness I'd say yes.

adam henwood · 08/04/2016 at 12:30

why is no1 even talking about lambert? hes a gun,very efficient,doesnt need big numbers for decent scores and can get big numbers which would see large scores and is the cheapest of all the "risky pics" thoughts please lekdog,surely this is a worthy discussion..

    Robert · 08/04/2016 at 15:36

    I've traded Barlow out for him, not sure why he hasn't been given more attention?

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