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PODCAST: Round 3 Trading Bonanza

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AFL-ROUND-3

BARLOW – ROCKLIFF – ROOKIES

In a week where the SuperCoach whips are cracking, will you rise like a majestic phoenix through the trading panic that is sweeping the Nation? Will you back that good horse – the noble steed that the kiddies come from bloody miles around just to catch a glimpse of. You know the one, his name is Self Bloody Discipline.

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Enjoy the podcast – enjoy the week!

Cheers,

Jock Reynolds


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Nick

Great work fellas!

hornets cod piece

awesome podcast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

also, please Jock- can you leave coachkings to the side or in its own catergory by any chance??? Its on every page, mentioned in every article and in every podcast!!!!!

this is a supercoach site is it not??? is it posssible to keep all the coachkings chat in its OWN section.?????

Supercoach and fantasy sport is NOT about gambling, drinking and making money to the majoroity but it seeems coachkings references are mentioned in the majority of sections here.

cheers.

Iamme

I hate to say it mate, but I think the big Reason Jock and co are still with us is because of Coach Kings…I don't care about it either,but if it means we still Have Jock, Crouching one and Higgo its a small price to pay….don't you think?

hornets cod piece

yeh no probs but like i suggested have it in its own podcast or section or something if people are so interested. kids cant play it and its just a matter of which next line is it going to be mentioned in the podcast thats all. of course i love the boys and the site yet at the same time there are millions of people who make youtube vids every week without financial reward.

Bellybuttonfluff

I think it would be hard to maintain a brilliant product like this with out some sort of attempt at achieving income, so I am ok with it if that's the dealio

Southern S

I see no problem with them promoting coachkings I feel you are being a bit entitled.

hedski

Aah. Just home from hellhole and podcast is up.
Quick kiss for the handbrake and billylids, grab a coupla cans of the Very Best and out the shed for a relax/laugh. Cant wait. Welcome.

hedski

Cheers jock. Holdin rocky this week as much as I wanna clock him. Next week he gone bang.

hedski

No holding Barlow now rocky out for fyfe

The Ranger

You're a poet Hedski.

Sana

Boom!

Steeeve

Can't afford Ruggles to Papley.
Cull Barlow or Gresham?

Gold Rush

One is a Rookie, the other is a Spud -your choice!

James

Go with the spud!

Jye

Looks like Rocky is out for 2 weeks folks http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-04-05/injury-re

Tom

Barlow and Harwood OUT

Papley and JJ IN

(go easy on me for starting Harwood)

SCaddict

Good improvements to your side Tom.

The Phantom started with Harwood too so nothing to be ashamed of mate. That's what the week leading up to Rd3 is all about, making the necessary corrections and jumping on the right rooks.

Ian

Oh mate, don't be ashamed of starting with Harwood, I started with Cloke!!! Lol

Givbs

Who out of Lincoln Mccarthy Gresham or Dunkly( by dpp) should I trade for Papley

Average Joe

Wait to see who's named, but I would say Dunkley is a good chance to get dropped

Dee

keep McCarthy…

Steele

Rockliff -> A.Hall (Swing Kerridge)
Gresham -> B.Kennedy

Holding Barlow.

Good trades community?

Glenn

I'm getting rid of barlow there is rumour of him being dropped and his role in side unknown with bennell coming back soon

medadsson

Bennell wont be back anytime soon.

listodemands

Yep that's been confirmed too – I believe he's out indefinitely with gear wait I mean calf issues…. http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/a

Southern S

Solid trades

Northerner

Agree good trades. If you are prepared to run Barlow one more week and see how he goes that's great. If it's simply the fact you've only got 2 trades and you will be trading him the following week then consider holding Rocky instead as his price is not dropping this week. They've said he's out for 2 and he has a record of coming back earlier so it may mean he's available the following week and then you have a proven premo in your team without needing to trade to get him. That might be a path worth considering.

Loyal RoughNuts

Havent listened to podcast yet so not sure if it has been discussed but Rocky is the perfect loophole option this wk if u dont have any non playing players. Just a though.

Jacko

as much as i want to hold Barlow i personally see more of an upside on JJ, also leaves me with 100k in the kitty.

Dee

Barlow fly kick OUT Popeye IN, Rockliff OUT Libba IN…. BANG BANG, WELCOME!

Pinidu

Community, which of the following trade options should I take?:

1)
Rockliff –> Parker
Mills –> Ben Kennedy

2)
Rockliff –> Zaharakis/SamGray/Zach Merrett/B Crouch
L. McCarthey –> Ben Kennedy

3)
L. McCarthey –> M. Hartley (via DPP)
Menadue –> Ben Kennedy
(Bench Rockliff for two weeks)

Thanks in advance

Northernsoul74

You don't need to bring in Hartley yet as only played 1 game.

Pinidu

So which option are u suggesting?

bAps

option 2

Southern S

Rockliff> Kennedy

hedski

Why would you flick little abe lincoln?

Krups

Rich out for JJ
Rockiff out for Papley via DDP swing
Then have $500,000 in bank
Get the war chest looking healthy early.

Richard

ATTENTION COMMUNITY NATIONWIDE.History is going to be made at Albion Park Trots Saturday night.The horse they nickname the "King of the Creek" whose name is Destreos is having his 401st start which will be an all time record.The race is due to start at 9.07pm est.The 12 yr old has won 90 races and placed 124 times,a remarkable achievement.So if your down the pub doing the coachkings or can make time to watch this once in a life time feat at the track you won't be disappointed.He won his 400th start last week in arrogant fashion and should go close again this week.Get the publican or the bloke in the tab to turn the volume up and watch history being made.Or better still get to the track.

Gold Rush

WHen he gets to under 500K I will snap him up.

medadsson

Jock Reynolds had played 633 games of senior football by the age of twelve and kicked the winning goal in 13 of 16 grand finals. No one saw his 634th game 🙂

DadSmasher

So who should we trade out for him Barlow or Mills?

hedski

Fyfe

Rakesh

Chuck Norris had patted this horse on the back before first race.

DankMemes

What To Do With Heath Shaw?

Jye

Hold. Season long keeper

SCaddict

HOOOOOOOLD!!!

Gold Rush

WHen he gets to under 500K I will snap him up.

Nifty

Put the V on him..

Gold Rush

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if my eyes don't deceive me – Camaroooooon has him playing out of the back pocket!!!!!

Rooster

Ridiculous statemet. His role hasn't changed one bit from previous years.

Gold Rush

Really! Watch his last two games and then let me know your thoughts!

Rooster

Seen both the games and his role hasn't changed one bit. As has been happening for his entire career his opponent try's to drag him as deep as possible but that isn't anything to do with a role change, that is just opposition teams trying to limit is rebound. He had more tan 30 touches in RD 1 it was only his DE (which is normally a strength) that prevented him from going big. Had a quite game in RD 2 – this happens with most backs as their role dictates that they wont be getting it 30 times every week. Shaw is a guaranteed top 6 Defender come the end of the year. Accumulates plenty of ball, uses the footy well and also proficient intercept marker also these attributes should result in another productive SC season for Heater.

DadSmasher

Take him out the back and give him a good talking to. Nanna reckons that fixes most blokes

tophawk

Silence!! He bloody gun. This man keeper. Heater will tear new holes with fly kick!!.

Welcome

Angus

At this moment I'm holding the under performing Barlow, purely based on 2 reasons:
1. Freo have been poop and once they get going ( which will be this week IMO), I believe players such as Barlow will also get going
2. When Bennell get s back, Barlow will be introduced back in the guts.

Trading Barlow looks good in the short term but down the line it'll come back to bite to people in the ass

My trades this week are:
Gresham to Papley
Rockliff to Parker

Gold Rush

Not me, Barlow is gonski.

Jimi

Given Ross Lyon's comments post game I think it's more likely Barlow will be dropped for Bennell.

Angus

Bennell is still a couple of weeks away and Ross Lyon wont be that drastic and drop Barlow. The Derby is a game Freo and Lyon would want to and must win.
Barlow is still their best inside mid behind Fyfe so its only a matter of time before Ross implements him back in the guts

Southern S

Mundy and Neale are way ahead of Spudlow.

@TheNoLanguage

No way mate. Mundy and Neale are in another league!

Angus

both Mundy and Barlow have been underperfoming in 2016 so far
Barlow Avgs: 19 disposals, 60% efficiency, 4 clangers, 3 tackles, 4 marks
Mundy Avgs: 21 disposals, 55% efficiency, 4 Clangers, 4 tackles, 2 marks

Say what you want but stats dont lie and something has to be changed structurally for these two players to return to their best. Ross will do this

Neale is a better mid in general but no in tight contested situations

Southern S

Neale gets a lot of contested possessions and clearances.

Angus

Neale has a good balance of being good in tight and outside as well as being a good distributor, but hes not better than Barlow in tight. Now this is isnt suggesting that Barlow is better, but just stating hes better a certain area compared to Neale.

DadSmasher

Angus think about it some more mate. Have you worked out what he'll have to average when Bennell gets back or Barlow suddenly learns to kick straight and dramatically increase his ball-to-foot pace ala SneakySammy?
If he has two more 60 games and merret goes 110 you're 100 points behind, if after those two more 60's he suddenly starts kicking straight and plays midfield it will take 10-weeks of him averaging 10pts p/game more than merrett just to break even on points.
If he continues to spud it up he will be 380k real soon and you'll be able to swap him cloke

Angus

DadSmasher, You're comparing an A grade midfielder to a 3rd yr player who's had 2 of his best games in his career. He wont average 110 throughout the year as he will have his moments like Barlow
Barlow case is quite similar to Toby Greene. Against Melbourne Greene played as a small forward for majority of the game where Griffin played in the guts. Both played utter crap and ironically GWS lost the game. The next week against Geelong, Greene played primarily in the middle and griffin played behind the ball, to which both arguably their best players in a deserved win.
With Barlow I can see Lyon introducing him back into his homeland in the middle and potentially moving a disappointing Mundy thus far behind the ball also as he's very good with ball in hand.

Say Barlow does do crap then im willing to risk it and wait the next week or two before i pull the pin. Perhaps you need to think about it some more champ haha (taken your line there ahaha).

But in all seriousness cheers for the feedback.

DadSmasher

Angus you weren't paying attention to what I said about Barlow. The problem isn't his position on the field its his lack of pace and poor footskills in a game that no longer accommodates those flaws from a midfielder. His situation is nothing like Greene's, Greene is a fwd who has self esteem issues. Unless you believe that Barlow will suddenly overcome his weaknesses (he's not been able to over the previous 5-years) he's not worth keeping because the game rules don't get changed mid season to rescue players who are being bypassed by the game. Merrett on the other hand is in his 3rd year and he is on the incline of his career. He has shown enough to identify himself as the best non-banned footballer, mentally and physically, at the disgusting cheating club he plays for and, he does not have 'the future of the club' lined up to replace him. As far asBarlow being a proven gun well that's just fantasy, he's never been a top 15 mid in Supercoach so he's never been a keeper.

Angus

Barlow has never been a good user of the footy nor has he been known to be quick either. these only stand out now because of where hes playing at this given time up forward. his role over the years as a contested mid hasn't really revolved around the use of the footy or being quick. how often do contested players being quick and efficient by foot?
This is my point and its exactly the same regarding Greene. Hes gotten over that incident back in 2014 and wasn't an issue last season.
Players have reinvented careers and re found form when switched back to preferred or new positions and i suspect Barlow will be another one of those players.
How will Merrett go when he cops some attention? what about when the bombers get smashed and cant get their hands on the footy? this will happen regularly. i feel that people have jumped on Merrett a year too early.
In regards to Barlow not being a top 15 mid you're absolutely right and i agree, but a top 15 forward? he will more than likely achieve this.

Leeds17

Heat maps show there was no ch age in Greenes position just decided to pull his finger out.

Angus

There was a change as he attended a lot of center bounces. He had a game high 7 clearances (got 0 against Melbourne).
You dont get a game high in clearances by plonking your ass down in the forward line. In regard to the heat maps of course its gonna show him up forward because he would've rested there to preserve interchanges.

I dont care if people are trading Barlow out as it means i could have a potential POD if Ross changes things up. There's no way he will want to start 0-3. That's pretty much guaranteeing no top four and putting them in a dog fight for finals.

Leeds17

You've misunderstood I was saying that Greene played midfield both games and the heat map showed that he simply had a shite game against Melbourne and a good one Vs the Cats.

Jimi

Plot twist: Bennell is out indefinitely.

Grove St Hooligans

OUT – Rockliff & Barlow
IN – Z Merrett & JJ (Swingset for Adams)

Gold Rush

BS

Mike

Jock I need your advice. I have Rockliff and Barlow but I don't have Tom Papley, Marcus Adams, or Luke Parker. What should i do? Thanks Jock!

Jimi

Simple. Prioritise getting Papley and Adams over any other trades.

Angus

Agreed you can get plenty of players like Parker throughout the year.

Glenn

Barlow out for zahrakis and sheridan upgraded for jj, i started with papley,adams,menadue,mills,davis,dea,tippo,hewett,brown,gresham,kerridge as my rookies all going well so will use my 2 correctional trades on midprice/premos currently sitting 835th overall so started well

Spifflicator

I would be really careful with Zaharakis. We all have 3-5 Essendon rookies, but adding premiums really exposes you to a bad game, and they will come.

SCaddict

I think Zaka is a reasonable gamble to take. He's only priced to average 77 which I'm sure he'll exceed comfortably as the main man in the middle for the Dons even with all the beltings they are likely to suffer.

Perhaps not ultimately a keeper come Supercoach finals time but he should do the job for a $400K player at least in the first half of the season.

Libba would still be the preferred choice for any coaches that don't have him, but for those who already do Zaka would be well worth considering.

Benjamima Puddleduck

i did pick him up for round three, then i reversed my changes. Havnt talked myself into it completely yet.
I did have him in my original start up team, but that changed over time.

Zaka and a tag?? not sure how that will go..
Would anyone bother tagging him?

Who cops a tag at the doggies this year if it goes out?
Who reaps the rewards for it?

SCaddict

Not sure many opponents would apply a hard tag on many Dons players this season. They'll just back themselves to go head to head and let their quality and experience advantage prevail.

Just be prepared for a potentially disappointing score @Port this week and he's not going to average anything like 130 from here.

In fact if he averages anything over 95 for the remainder of the season that's mission accomplished in my book.

hedski

I just don't like zahas legs. Lots of bad quad action. Needles mighta helped him

Glenn

Already got libba my mids this week ablett,hannebery,fyfe,danger,zaka,libba,wines,mills i used dpp to trade barlow for mid and will start papley fwd

Glenn

In my opinion no one tags anyone at essendon he will be the main man in the middle and at this stage looks like going to be more reliable than barlow and make profit off him early can always be upgraded later if needed

Benjamima Puddleduck

Im excited to see Hartung tear up the Doggies this week. They are going to get a lesson in quick very soon.

Southern S

Bahahaha no.

Gr8Game

Don't get to cocky mate because I think the doggies are to quick for Hawks. If Dogs play flawless footy like they did against Freo then I see them beating the Hawks convincingly, however if the dogs play as they did last week against the Saints, then it can quite easily see the hawks will convincingly.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Definitely right there, im hoping the doggies win actually (cats supporter here)
But the doggies will get to see some real speed in Hartung, dont let the guy get any space or he is gone

Dan

Barlow to Papley. Swing Adams fwd, Kennedy to mids and Gresham out for Johannisen. Then enough in bank to go Rocky to Fyfe next week, possibly with leftover cash as Fyfe BE is 176ish.

Rick Coine

How can you get JJ for Gresham

Lachie

You have no idea how long i've been waiting for this podcast!

Northernsoul74

I'm guessing about a week.

medadsson

A week? 🙂

Dee

7 days?

tom

what to do with tommy cutler community

Benjamima Puddleduck

im holding for now. not the worst going around and for his price its a little less painful

DadSmasher

If I needed somebody to trade out so that I could get a well performing rookie he'd be perfect

motsy

Jock mate, my rag-tag league of Jock community members has charged it's way up to 17th overall for the leagues. On the up this week hopefully!

Gord29

great pod cast as usual. I have a problem and need the community to help me make a decision. I currently have Rockliff and Barlow in my team and would love to get Papley like everyone else. The question is who to trade down to him i could also trade Gresham down to him current
MID Parker Ablett Danger Libba Shiel Kerridge Millis Rocky (Menadue Davis Gresham)
FWD Hall Kennedy Wells Dusty Greene Barlow (Tippy McCarthy)

Spifflicator

I think I'll keep Barlow and pray for change. Steele however must go, but the question is to Wells or Papley? I had been set on Wells to keep structure but an extra $130k in the kick is hard to argue with.

Gord29

i would prefer wells at this stage just have more faith in his JS

Jonathan Camac

I'd be looking at Wells too. He's playing great, picking up a lot of disposals. Parley is doing great atm though

Tom

Laird or JJ?

Northernsoul74

I have both but Laird is proven.

Gold Rush

Laird is proven, JJ is the rage atm – toss the coin Tom.

Punjab

I have traded Simpkin out for Ben Kennedy
Thoughts on trading hurn for JJ
I will hold on Barlow and Rockliff as Rockliff won't play this week and his price won't go up
Next week i will trade him for dangerman

DadSmasher

I don't know about that Punjab, that sort of thinking will get you the knickname Pun-jibberjabber
Do you seriously believe that barlow will be a top 6 forward this year with the new rules and fast high scoring gameplans?
Maybe if we could turn back the clock to 2014/15 when the game was dominated by stoppages and throw ins and a slow moving midfielder with slow-twitch muscle fibres could get 30 plus disposals but now, not in this NEW game that's starting to look like the footy they played in those Black and White replays you sometimes see on tv.

Punter

People are getting excited about JJ, be careful jumping on him to early, I'm not convinced he can keep those scores, his first game was against witches hats in Fremantle, then a poor St Kilda

Punjab

I scored 2350 over the weekend
Hurn scored 94 but he was very quite in the first week
I don't want to trade Barlow.
Trust me,he will come good

Gold Rush

No trust in this game Punjab.

Punjab

I know mate,but one thing in SuperCoach,you do not trade premium.
They got smashed last couple of week.
Watch this week
They will come good

Southern S

Barlow hasn't been a premium since 2013/2014.

The man is 28 give him a break, he's slowing down. Let him become a spud and respect his choice to not be supercoach relevant anymore.

DadSmasher

He showed enough last year to give confidence in him for a solid 85-95 ave in 2016. That's a very good ave for a defender and worthy of D5/6 at finals time. This year he's just gone nuts everytime a ball is bounced, they had to ban him from the Australian Open for intercepting a couple of the jokers serves and booting them 12 rows back, then came Nab where he knocked a lazy 129 and 113 in half a game.

Jimi

Waiting all day for this Jock but it was worth it!

Barlow to Z Merrett
Rocky to R Gray

Good luck everyone

Jez

Bang, great trades

Max

Tom both
But laird more proven if u had to choose one

Libba or hunter ??
Leaning to hunter , is gonna be gun , I reckon it's his break out year , watched both games , has it on a string and improving with every game

Thoughts ??

Benjamima Puddleduck

I have Hunter, was scared after the first game. Definitely deserved more points for his efforts.
Your right though, will get better and better after each game

Average Joe

Barlow will ace it this weekend.

Davonaise

With a 70

SCaddict

Just don't take out a second mortgage on that one. 🙂

Gold Rush

In the Potato Cake factory – as a premium SPUD!!!!

Youngy

I hope so, Average Joe.

I am holding him for now, got other problems in my team.

Andrew

Ok if I pull the trigger on Barlow and Rocky I can,

Parker and Dusty Combo

or

Gray and Merret.

Thanks in advance.

Suit

Both good trades, Parker and dusty the safer option though

Jonathan Camac

Parker and Dusty just slightly better. I love the look of Gray though. If Merret can keep up form, he'll be an awesome POD

Youngy

Parker and Dusty for sure

Gold Rush

Good footballer Hurn – but a SC spud!

Punjab

He scored 60+ in the first week and this week he scored 94.
He doesn't get many possessions but he get a lot of score involvements
Don't know what to do with him
Keep or trade…thoughts please

Gold Rush

A defender, must average out to a min of 80+ – he is great but the team requirements will not allow that to be achieved IMHO.

Patch

I was very encouraged by what I saw this week. I'm absolutely holding him with mind for him to be D5 or 6 at season's end.

goodiemate

ive picked bloody matty kruezer do i pull the plug early or wait to see if he gets some form please help community

Gold Rush

Wait a tad as the 3 premo rucks should come down in price.

DadSmasher

If he's the biggest problem you have look at turning him into Blicavs or if your broke sinclair

Davonaise

Hello all new here and wanted to pop my head out my umm my….. Well anyway just want to say be careful with your trades cause some of may not realise it now but you are chasing points with Parker, JJ and Hall. If you started with them you are off to a cracker!

I know, I know but they will increase in price by 50k-100k after another 2-3 rounds!!!
All I am saying beware the sc bite of irony (chasing points) (wasting trades) = disaster!!!

If you don't have any of these 3 players in your side pick one that's fine. Personally the only player you must have is Hall.

Gold Rush

Son, there are multiple facets to this game, some are in it to win overall – some are in it to win their league – some are in it to improve on their ranking from last year, etc, etc, etc. Do what you feel you have to do to accommodate your initial objectives.

Davonaise

I realise that thank you for letting me know, do understand people will do what they will like do in the end anyway. Was just trying to help, guess iam in the wrong chat forum?
I Am new to this site but not all to do with SuperCoach its is my 7th season and have never been outside the top 14k of coaches. My personal best is 218th and been under 1k three times 🙂

Gold Rush

Son, you have a brilliant record – keep it up!!

DadSmasher

Hi Davo, your thoughts and opinions are appreciated and the chasing points advice is sage but, Parker's proven he can knock out those big scores regularly and JJ's last season, nab and 2 real games suggest that he's a solid keeper as D5/6. Halls NAB form and highlights from previous years identified him as a 'safe risk' with more upside than downside.
So, I don't think that trading any of those guys in is chasing points, they are all worthy of their positions in your SC team and will continue to deliver, that's cultivating points.
I took TMitch over Parker for no particular reason other than I wanted to see how Parker played after last years injury, I now expect to need him at finals. I also started with Hall but not JJ but I had enough cash to swap Dea for JJ this week

SD6

So you picked Dea to make money, yet you are trading him the round prior to him making roughly 50k?

Is it not worth holding for another look at JJ against a stronger team? its a free hit for information where at worst you break even on the price rises from Dea and JJ and lose out on about 20-30 points…. is a trade worth that?

In this scenario I think its safe to say you are chasing points (btw his last season scores weren't that flash 9 out of 20 games he scored under 70). Having said that he is probably going to continue a breakout year but I think its madness to do that trade this round.

Rick Grimes

this.

DadSmasher

points are more important to me than cash

SD6

Can understand that, but are you factoring in the used trade here?

Swans2012

He makes a very good point dadsmasher, very little to lose from holding

Redgumwon

I'm thinking of trading Barlow & Oliver out and then swing Kerridge to the midfield. Then trade in Dusty & Papley. What do you guy think of this trade?

Brookesy

Too much cash to be made to trade Oliver at this stage.

Redgumwon

Yeah but it's only $36,000 compared to Papley's $100,000. I think Oliver may only average 60 to 70 a game or even worse get dropped this week after an average game against Essendon

Southern S

Well if he does in fact get dropped, then maybe go for it if you're happy to blow a trade and have no other pending problems

Redgumwon

I think I will I see Barlow as a huge problem. Once Bennell returns from injury what sort of job security can you see for Barlow? I can't see him playing forward and scoring better than now or moving up the pecking order and playing in the midfield.

nick

what should i do with suckling? should i hold or upgrade or downgrade? 60k in the bank.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Hold, he will rise up as JJ falls

Southern S

Suckling has been stagnant on 70-80 for the last few years.

JJ is up and coming, could flop but he has been consistently increasing his output, so has way more chance of succeeding than suckling.

Chill

Southern S i disagree about Suckling. He was sub affected at hawks and some of his 70s were like quarter efforts! if you look at the games where he played full games he was scoring 80-90. Pretty good considering his price. I have him and will be holding him.

Southern S

I don't mind him as a pick and was considering him at the start of the year, just seeing those two 70 odd scores hasn't really made me think he can go big enough to raise his average significantly.

I think JJ has more upside the way he is playing.

Agree though on not trading suckling as it's just a side trade and JJ could easily have a few rounds of 70 and be back to square one.

My reply was more to benjamima claiming JJ will fall, which is impossible to predict.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Good to see people checking stats!

L.Hunter and B.Hartung are other prime examples of sub effected players

Jack

Is it worth going menadue to Kennedy and McCarthy to Papley for the extra $$$ they'll make or hold trades? Or upgrade Rockliff to Robbie Gray or Rockliff to Kennedy?

Bells E Bubb

I wouldn't trade out a rookie who is low priced and playing. Look to trade out a problem mid pricer if you have any.

Northerner

Of those Rockliff to Kennedy a good option. You get Kennedy's points for next 2 weeks and make some cash with Rocky out for 2.

James

Adam Treloar and Tom Mitchell. Thoughts?

Gold Rush

What's your thoughts on them?

James

Are they worthy options?

Bells E Bub

Tom is a GUN and in a contract year. Good POD, lost the DPP but just always seems to get the ball. Good POD but will he be top 10 midfielder and thus a keeper? He might go close, but maybe just short. Seems to be finding the goals, so hopefully will get the DPP back for next year. If so he will be first picked in my team.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Good footy players, actually exceptional footy players

Mark

OUT: Grisham & Barlow
IN: Parrish & Papley

Cash goes to the warchest

Mayniac

Played SC for a couple of years and stumbled across you guys late last year – bloody awesome!

Started with all the main rookies – JJ, Adams, Weitering, Mills, Oliver, Kerridge, Paply and Menadue. Only one missing is B.Kennedy! Have Barlow and thinking making a corrective – down to Kennedy and then use the cash to upgrade B.Crouch to a Hannebery/Mitchell.
Already have Ablett, Fyfe, Danger and Pendles.

With this site and changing my thinking I am sitting in top one percent fir the first time ever!

Davonaise

Well done Mayniac!

Just be careful here mate or should I say son?
Don't offer advice here because we are new on this site but least your not making any critical thinking regarding SuperCoach instead you have gone for the more relaxed approach showing us your team 🙂

It looks good son!

Gold Rush

Settle Son!

Mayniac

Thanks mate – maybe we will be like this year's rookies and smash out the big scores 🙂

Davonaise

Haha hope so 🙂
Where I dodged Barlow I got hit by Rockliff

Southern S

Do the Barlow>Kennedy trade and sit tight on crouch for a few more weeks to see how he goes

Mayniac

Yeah… The other choice is to flick rich and strengthen the backline with a houli/laird type

Personal preference is not to keep a few hundred thousand in the bank so early in the year

DadSmasher

Well done mayniac, it's unquestionable that frequenting this site improves a persons SC knowledge and as a consequence also their ranking but it's no replacement for your own research because some of the advice offered is pure speculation, old wives tales, superstition or just plain crazy. I come here for the crazy ones.

Surferboi

Thoughts on Kane Lambert? he has looked bloody good the last two weeks

tophawk

Looks to be in very good form. As a POD option and being value for money, he is definately worth considering.

Cheers

Northerner

A real possible F6 keeper, so in for Rocky in the mids and swing him forward when one of your FWD rookies matures. We want FWDs who get mid time and he's playing mainly on ball the whole game.

Youngy

Very Very Risky, wouldn't go there.

Shake n bake

Will Grimley get a gig this week kicked 4 in the magoos? Was goin to trade him for paps?

Southern S

If grimley isn't named and papley is, then you pretty much have to do it don't you?

Bells E Bubb

Do that. Even if Grimley gets in he'll score stuff all as a young tall in a poor team and have poor JS.

Phil

Surely Essendon won't change a winning team. Also should be noted, McKernan kicked 6 in the same game and that's one of the guys he's competing with for a spot that's not yet available.

tophawk

I was going Barlow to Johanissen via DPP. It appears a huge number of coaches are making this move. I always try where I can to avoid the "herd" mentality. In doing so, hopefully there will always be a "poddish" aspect to my team, as well as remaining discliplined to stick to the key team structure. As such, I am going to spend the extra 70K go Barlow to Gibson. (via dpp) I currently have both M.Brown, M.Adams, and Tippa in my backline. This trade will move Tippa to my forward line and fix this issue also.

Yes, I will miss out on the price rise by JJ after this round. BUT, Gibbo's price will rise also, albeit more modestly. My gut tells me that Gibson will be let off the chain without the likes of Hodge and Shiels missing. He seems in superb physical condition and could be in for a huge year. Still not 100% sold on JJ. If he is the real deal, I will pay the extra coin to get him later.

I will still have enough cash then to go Rockliff to Robbie Gray. I will then wack the VC on him for the game on Friday night when Port play the bombers in Adelaide. BANG!!!!!!!!

Davonaise

That is something that people forget or don't know at all is that a player who started cheap e.g. JJ @ 418k as much as he is going to rocket up in price he won't be able to go much further than 530k because price increases are relevant to the players starting pric also in regards to how far they can cost at their peak

Further more JJ is not going to avg 110+ for the rest of the year.

Davonaise

What iam trying to say is it will be much harder to bring in a red hot Gibson than a Red hot JJ
Gibson will go over 570k if he has a crazy year

So I totally agree with your logic

Russ

I think JJ has more potential to increase in price than Gibson, Gibson has been a solid 85 average for a number of years, not ideal for a team wanting to win it all.

Plus I believe Gibson will be tagged if he goes close to replicating last week's scores.

Tophawk, I appreciate you want to retain a certain PODness within your team, but historically, the teams that have finished high up when it's all said and done, have a lot of 'sameness' about them.

Sometimes you have to risk big to reap big rewards.

Lachie

Suprised with no mentioning of Jarrad Waite. Two huge scores in a row is quite a standout statistic for him. Could be his year?

Southern S

177 vs brisbane in round 2 – 2015

174 vs brisbane in round 2 – 2016

Also 5 games in a row during 2015 scored 90-120

Still only managed to average 80.

BKW

Don't like him, up and down scorer and always does something stupid to get suspended. Ignore IMO

tom

this is my team

Houli laird sheridan cutler weitering dea (adams AMT)
danger ablett priddis shiel taylor adams viney b.crouch kennedy (gresham hewett davis)
nic nat gawn (lorensch)
barlow hall de goey wells menadue kerridge (mccarthy papley)

got 140k in the bank
in what order should i trade these guys out barlow, de goey, taylor adams, viney, sheridan, cutler

Southern S

Barlow, Spudlow, Barspud, FreoSpud, Ross's Spud, Dockerspud.

In that order.

But seriously I'd go Barlow, Cutler, maybe De Goey.

Not sure why you'd consider trading taylor adams with a 93 and 95 so far…………

Viney will come good.

Sheridan should come good.

Shezza

I have traded out Rocky and Barlow for Fyfe and Sexton

Ratitat

Barlow to Merrett or Zaharakis??

Ratitat

or Greene

Joel

Stay away from Greene, he might get you a good score now and then but youll cop rubbish score mostly in between suspensions!

Pinidu

Community, thoughts on a Mills –> BenKen or Rockliff –> BenKen trade???
The only way for me to get BenKen into my side without losing a premium is to trade out Callum Mills.
What about Menadue –> BenKen + McCarthey –> Hartley (via DPP)?
These rookie conundrums are causing me headaches community, and I'd love some assistance.