Screen Shot 2016-04-04 at 12.33.21 PMLast week it was Fyfe, Green & Hickey – this week it seems there is trade panic around Barlow, Rockliff and a host of others.

 

 

Without doubt, in terms of overall rank, trading is a more important game element than initial starting squads.

Great traders are much like the great AFL footballers – while they come pre-blessed with a certain level of natural ability, to become elite in their field they have had to train hard to fine tune skill while remaining extremely disciplined in their approach.

Mick The Mad Irishman (follow him on twitter here @Da_Mad_Irishman) worked with me on an article dedicated to the art of trading in the Jock Reynolds Fantasy Footy Magazine that was released leading into the 2015 season. Within this article were two significant flow diagrams – given the events of Round 2, I feel it extremely timely to reflect carefully on these before we make any trades this week.

The biggest mistake made every year by both the experienced and non-experienced Supercoaches is the trading out of a Premium selection. It normally happens in the early part of the season when a Premium undergoes a run of poor form. The Premium selection is traded out for another Premium who has started the season with a run of red hot form. This is the best example of shortsightedness in the Supercoach game. Often the form of both players will reverse and you will have both wasted a trade — and reduced the scoring capacity of your team. This scenario has already been demonstrated with those who went from Fyfe to Priddis or those who traded into Hickey after Round One.

Of course there are certain times when you will need to trade out a Premium. Long Term Injury (LTI) is the obvious one. Another scenario may be that your Premium has had a change of role within a team or is playing with an injury. If either of these circumstances can be proved then you may be forced into a trade. Deciphering this information can be difficult and one should be certain before they hit the trade button. All too often Premiums are traded out far too quickly and for all the wrong reasons.
By answering a series of simple questions you can better judge whether or not a Premium should be traded out.

Scenario One – Injury to a Premium Selection (The Rockliff Dilemma)

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Scenario Two – Changed Role With a Team (The Barlow Dilemma)

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While it may seem to go against all of your SuperCoach trading instincts, when running Rockliff and Barlow through the two dichotomous keys it seems that a solid play may be to hold both Rockliff and Barlow!

A fascinating decision awaits all SuperCoaches this week. Your decision to trade or hold will have a significant bearing on your overall rank.

Assuming you owned BOTH Barlow and Rockliff - what would you do this week?

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Enjoy the week Community!

Kind regards,

Peter J Higginbotham

 

 

 


594 Comments

Kang Van DerBang · 04/04/2016 at 12:45

Have to remove Barlow – I don't see any upside in keeping him. When Bennel gets back he will have no place in the midfield.

    Kang Van DerBang · 04/04/2016 at 12:47

    p.s. Sensational flow chart Higgo.

    Angus · 04/04/2016 at 12:56

    When Bennell gets back, barlow will have more midfield time

    M-Town Ballers · 04/04/2016 at 18:47

    Bennell was brought in to kick goals he will play as a running mid fwd. Barlow will then be pushed back in the middle for centre clearances

    Todd · 06/04/2016 at 06:14

    Barlow to lambert and use the cash.

Youngy · 04/04/2016 at 12:45

Great write up Higgo! They are some magnificent flow charts.

Thanks mate!

Tom · 04/04/2016 at 12:51

So I completely stuffed up my backline. I picked Matt Boyd and Harwood. I thought Boyd would light it up with the doggies good early run but obviously i was wrong and Harwood is scoring like hes a sub.

Should I…

Hold Boyd, Downgrade Harwood to Hartley and Barlow to Papley giving me 600k in the bank

or

Downgrade Boyd to JJ and Harwood to Brodie Smith and keep Barlow.

    Elephant · 04/04/2016 at 12:52

    What does the flowchart suggest you should do?

      Tom · 04/04/2016 at 12:57

      haha just looking for other opinions

    Angus · 04/04/2016 at 12:58

    if you haven't got Papley then you have to get him in.
    hartley has one more game left before his price rise so you can wait another week for him

    Phil · 04/04/2016 at 13:40

    I think Barlow to Papley & Harwood to JJ

Tret · 04/04/2016 at 12:56

Im not 100% on JJ. Hasnt had much competition in the first 2 weeks with doggies pumping both sides.

Thinking that we wait and see how he goes up against some real competition in the hawks and if he lights it up again Ill be happy to pay the extra cash.

    Phil · 04/04/2016 at 13:41

    That's what I'm doing, and it gives me an extra week to see who should make way for him, Bartel, Sheridan or Lonergan.

    Callum · 04/04/2016 at 16:07

    The dogs have the hawks, carlton, north, Brisbane, Adelaide in the next 5 weeks all at Etihad then Melbourne at the G. I think he continues his great form throughout and the dogs can easily go 7-1 maybe 8-0 after this lot of games.

    Scrad · 04/04/2016 at 17:16

    mate have you seen him play, he is a feak. He does not stop running.

    Nathan · 04/04/2016 at 18:36

    Absolute madness- with Carlton and Lions in the next 3 weeks, ignore all the crap, will be 600k real fast- #gun

Arthur · 04/04/2016 at 12:57

Lyon as much said it after the loss to the Suns, if you lack pace and disposal efficiency, you're not part of the future. Whether that's just Ross throwing hand grenades at his players, but it sounds a lot like Barlow.

    medadsson · 04/04/2016 at 13:26

    Totally agree, I heard that to be a specific reference to Barlow. Remember Ross and Luke Ball.

      CarlaShirly · 04/04/2016 at 19:59

      Well Freo have no future with him soaking up the teams youth like he did with Saints. He has only done what he did before and he has got what he had before a sad old team.

        Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:18

        Wonder how he's going to manage a rebuild at Freo, considering he's there till the end of 2020, it might hurt his excellent win loss record as a coach.

NickV · 04/04/2016 at 12:58

What are you going to do higgo?

    SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 13:04

    Probably trade out both Rocky and Barlow ha ha!

Timbo · 04/04/2016 at 13:00

If there is a time to make these important trades it may be round 2! With opening prices still available there is no better time than now to stem the bleeding and tend to the wound before the onset of gangrene. Rockliff can still be traded to Parker for profit but in just a couple of rounds such a trade may end up costing around 50K. Luke Parker has come in with a full pre-season, Rockliff hasn't. It is an unacceptable risk to let Rockliff or Barlow develop into the Ryan Griffen thorn in side of 2016.

Jackk · 04/04/2016 at 13:01

Is Sam mitchell a good option

will he get rested ??

    Tret · 04/04/2016 at 13:04

    might not be rested but last year he seemed to sit on the bench a lot in the last quarter of games that they were winning comfortably. Hawks look like having another big year so could happen again but he has killed the first 2 rounds and is a good option. Up to if you think he'll be a top 10 mid or not

      boostboy · 04/04/2016 at 20:03

      It also seems to be inevitable that he'll get suspended and or injured at some point during the season.

    Bells E Bubb · 05/04/2016 at 10:22

    Not if you have a 'No Dickheads' policy.

The Beard · 04/04/2016 at 13:03

Both gone. R Gray & Martin in I think.

Tyler · 04/04/2016 at 13:11

Want to trade out Barlow, Who is the better option: Aaron Hall or Jason Johannisen (DDP Switch)?

    Timbo · 04/04/2016 at 13:23

    Hall without a shadow of a doubt.
    JJ hasn't scored like this before (Hall has at the back end of 2015) and JJ surely will cop a lockdown at some stage the way he is cracking the game open. When playing GC majority of attention will be on Ablett.

    Bobby Singh · 04/04/2016 at 21:08

    Hall. We'll see how JJ goes against quality opposition.

Jojo · 04/04/2016 at 13:16

What would u do in the wingard situation I'm planing on selling him to dusty thoughts

    ThatDamnRascal · 04/04/2016 at 13:30

    Hold Wingard coming into a home game against the Bombers

      SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 13:40

      Assuming he plays of course. It was a minor hammy niggle apparently so hopefully he is right to go.

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2016 at 13:58

        Hope u r right but if he misses I will bring papley on the field. Been sitting on bench last two weeks. Never would have thought the kid would go back to back tons.

        Bigger problem is mid bench but not a great deal of options. Don't see much point bringing in mills, Oliver as they will score around 70 and won't go up too much more than Davis. Probably just sit and wait for another rook to get to on the bubble. If Duncan misses will have to put one of Davis, Dunkley or Gresham on the park.

          Hammers_Eagles · 04/04/2016 at 17:11

          Are you going to keep Duncan?

        Ian · 05/04/2016 at 16:33

        Minor hammies always seem to end up with 3weeks out 🙁

    ball swing · 04/04/2016 at 22:09

    nah- i dont think dusty will buy him either.

Dan · 04/04/2016 at 13:28

I think Barlow needs to go, unlike previous seasons there is an abundance of cheap forwards scoring big points (Kennedy, Wells, Papley, Kerridge) and those $$$ would be better spent strengthening other lines.

Rick Grimes · 04/04/2016 at 13:38

I think I'll hold on both. Rocky will come right and is capable of playing with an injury whilst still pumping out massive scores. Barlow I feel less confident about. I'm hoping Bennell will come in and push Barlow back towards the middle. If he spuds it up again I'll swap to Dusty or Zorko.

Last season I burned trades early. So I'm trying (very hard) not to rage trade some of these muppets.

    ball swing · 04/04/2016 at 22:10

    its round 3 buddy. it is the ONLY round when using both trades is mandatory!!!

    JamiesNinjas13 · 05/04/2016 at 10:59

    Hi Rick, just wanting to know your thoughts on Negan. It looked like you were going to go berserk last night. We should call in an Air Strike on these Saviour dogs for beating one of our mates last night!

Ethan017 · 04/04/2016 at 13:41

Ben Keays 39 touches in seconds should get a game next week

    Super_Freak · 04/04/2016 at 16:16

    Especially since Rocky has pretty much been ruled out for next week, plus Rich and Robinson are 50/50.

Phil · 04/04/2016 at 13:49

I'm hearing a lot of hold, hold, hold, but i think this is the one time of the year you should trade, trade, trade. Rewind 1 year ago, popular choices Griffen, Bellchambers, Newnes & Lumumba all started slow. With hindsight, the right thing to do was trade all these guys out, except for maybe Newnes who was a 50/50.

    Super_Freak · 04/04/2016 at 16:22

    I agree Phil. Required corrective trades need to be made in opening two rounds before price changes, then hold and save trades.

    Boggers · 04/04/2016 at 16:31

    Good call I reckon .. we used to have 24 trades for a season so I look at the extra 6 as correctionals, get your team set how you want and then put the gun in the holster and be very careful whenever you draw it for the rest of the year, Sure, if you got your team right from the get-go then hold those bonus trades but if you need to correct .. BANG, BANG trade your arse off!!!

    Youngster · 04/04/2016 at 19:22

    Higgo's article is about Premiums, with Bellchambers, Newnes and Lumumba not being in that category. Griffen had the potential but trading him immediately was not a priority given the injuries most of us were facing. When fit, Rocky is elite and can knock out monster scores whilst Barlow has to potential to be one of the best forwards this season.

    Why wouldn't you let Rocky sit it out for a week and use him as an emergency/captains loophole and then let him repay the faith as the season rolls on?

      The benchmark · 04/04/2016 at 19:55

      I think we are talking about holding certain players. Corrective trades elsewhere will definitely be done

      Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:07

      Because rocky had preseason injury problems and now he's already suffering.

      Sometimes action is necessary.

        Youngster · 05/04/2016 at 13:41

        Yeah fair point but last season after returning from injury, Rocky finished the season with the following scores between rounds 15 to 23:

        126, 101, 50, 135, 115, 145, 122, 146, 152

Ethan017 · 04/04/2016 at 13:51

Community I think we should hold on Barlow. Round 1 Melbourne beats GWS and then loses to Essendon the next week, GWS loses to Melbourne then beats Geelong, Hawthorn loses to Geelong then beats West Coast and Josh Gibson has 44 bloody disposals
Cannot predict anything at the moment so hold on Barlow community

    Dice · 04/04/2016 at 14:32

    Geelong beat Hawthorn, Hawthorn beat West Coast, Melbourne beat GWS, GWS beat Geelong and Essendon beat Melbourne.
    Does this mean Essendon are now flag favourites??

      DankMemes · 04/04/2016 at 16:08

      YES

      Bobby Singh · 04/04/2016 at 21:09

      Spot on.

      Rod · 05/04/2016 at 11:45

      That's the way footy has always worked. Bombers absolute flag certainties! I'm off to see my bookie – odds are ridiculous for a sure thing!!!

Grahame Lebroy · 04/04/2016 at 13:52

I am going to be stubborn and hold both Rocky and Barlow. Instead using this week to fix up cash cow and stepping stone types, L.McDonald I am talking to u (what was I thinking).Hoping Robinson comes back this week to help a little.

    The Ranger · 04/04/2016 at 14:33

    You're spot on Lebroy. R3 is get the right rookies round, there's nothing more important.

    Jimbo · 04/04/2016 at 16:21

    Clever Graham.
    Yes only rookie correctives only this week. If you have them all, well done – there are no trades required. This puts you ahead with your trades in hand and supreme cash generation abilities. You might be behind on total points early but will be able to make bigger leaps up the rankings as the season goes on, replacing your tired young rookies with your choice of proven experienced jets

    Swans2012 · 04/04/2016 at 23:02

    God I love trading….. But I think your right, I'm 100% holding rocky, anyone thinking of trading him should look at the back end of last year or all of 2014 for a reminder of what he does. Barlow I'm umming about but I think it'll be a hold in the end…..rich I'll also hold for another week.

GB28 · 04/04/2016 at 13:52

I'm trading Barlow & Dal Santo for Ablett & Papley outcome = more points + more team value & 380k in the kitty for prem upgrades…Thoughts??

    Northernsoul74 · 04/04/2016 at 16:42

    My thoughts are you have Dal Santo?

      BKW · 05/04/2016 at 08:56

      Yeah same – do those trades I'd say 😉

    Richard · 05/04/2016 at 18:14

    Chasing points = big mistake

Sam · 04/04/2016 at 13:53

how long is rockliff out for?

    Average Joe · 04/04/2016 at 14:02

    Hasn't been revealed yet

    Mark G · 04/04/2016 at 18:35

    heard he has bone bruising in his forearm and the calf/hamstring problem which is the reason he didnt play nab.

      Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:05

      If the calf/hamstring thing is the same injury then according to the flow charts he should go. It's probably affected his output for 5 weeks now.

james · 04/04/2016 at 13:58

this is my team community and would love some thoughts on which way i should go with my trades

DEF- houli laird sheridan cutler weitering adams (AMT, Dea)
MID- Danger ablett priddis shiel adams viney crouch kennedy(gresham hewett davis)
RUCK- nic nat gawn (lorensch)
FWD- barlow hall de goey wells menadue kerridge (mccarthy 102k rook)

i have 139k in the bank, is there any must have players that i don't have in my team

should i keep or trade barlow and who for can use DPP

which of my mid pricers should i get rid of first

thoughts would be much appreciated

    Average Joe · 04/04/2016 at 14:03

    Sheridan for Adams

      james · 04/04/2016 at 14:09

      i already have Marcus adams and taylor adams?

        Average Joe · 04/04/2016 at 14:14

        Woops didn't see m adams there. Is the 102k rook Papley? If not, get him in for Barlow probably, if it is Papley then I would either leave your team like that or depending on your thoughts, barlow for Zorko/Martin

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/04/2016 at 14:28

    Maybe swap De Goey into your mids with kennedy into your fwd line. Then Trade De Goey to Libba (cause he will generate more cash than De Geoy) or possibly be a keeper. Guess that means your a little light in your Fwd line but its not too bad.

    Dean · 04/04/2016 at 18:14

    Nice side but you really must get LIBBA first and then Papley, don't even think about not making these trades its a MUST.

hedski · 04/04/2016 at 14:01

Atm I've gone gresh to papley via kerridge and barlow to jj via adams. $244k in the kitty will look to offload rocky to fyfe next week and still leave a good whack for more upgrades

    FavalinkoUBeauty · 04/04/2016 at 22:19

    Exactly the moves i will be doing

      Mighty_Hondo · 04/04/2016 at 23:56

      will Papley get a regular gig at the Swans?

        Rod · 05/04/2016 at 13:05

        Rookies always a week to week proposition but he'll play this week and generate an almighty pile of cash!!

Average Joe · 04/04/2016 at 14:01

Decided that my best course of action this week is to trade papley and kennedy in for barlow and another rookie. My question is who do I trade out between Gresham and Ruggles? Ruggles seems the obvious choice but if he gets named during the year he could prove useful, whether Gresh has scored 44 and 37 in the last few rounds, plus trading Gresh out lets me have Menadue or Papley on the field instead of Hewett, and I get a mid-fwd dpp link. Thoughts?

    Adds · 04/04/2016 at 16:09

    unless he is named this week get rid of Ruggles, he isn't earning you any cash while he isn't playing

    Dean · 04/04/2016 at 18:18

    Pis$ off Gresh for Papley, that's what I am doing because the little cash he does make in round 3 he will lose by round 5 or 6 anyway.

      Bomber56 · 04/04/2016 at 18:22

      Trade Gresham he is only going to go up around $10,000, if Ruggles does play he will go up a lot more.

    Bowski · 04/04/2016 at 22:34

    I like this move. Get rid of Gresh, think I'll do the same

Matt · 04/04/2016 at 14:02

A big thankyou to you Higgo. Your preseason article on SuperCoach Psychology was a big factor in why I didn't select Barlow. Whether or not this was the right call won't be clear for a few rounds still but it's looking good so far.

    Keenbutclueless · 04/04/2016 at 14:53

    Same here. I posted on that article. One reply suggested I couldn't be serious about SC if I didn't pick Barlow. Feeling very happy with that decision. Unfortunately I chose Robinson instead! So no escaping the pain!

LHMORWOOD · 04/04/2016 at 14:03

Downgrading Barlow to Papley then trading Rockliff out.

Who are the best candidates to trade in for Rockliff?? got $948,300.

Looking very closely at Sam Mitchell or Luke Parker. Any other considerations???

    LHMORWOOD · 04/04/2016 at 14:17

    Or seeing as Bennell is coming into the Freo side (hoping to send Barlow into the midfield more) do I hold Barlow and just downgrade Rockliff to Parker?

    davo · 04/04/2016 at 14:21

    Robbie Gray

LEKD0G · 04/04/2016 at 14:03

I have three under performing premos in Rampe, Barlow and Rockliff. I'll be holding them all.

    Alex · 04/04/2016 at 14:16

    onya lekdog you read my mind

    Dice · 04/04/2016 at 14:33

    Do you have Johannisen and Aaron Hall Lekdog?

      LEKD0G · 04/04/2016 at 15:07

      Don't have JJ, playing out of his mind not sure how long it continues

        Jye · 04/04/2016 at 16:12

        Going to trade JJ in?

          LEKD0G · 04/04/2016 at 19:18

          Don't think i can get him in this week

            ball swing · 04/04/2016 at 22:16

            Lekkers keeping Barlow and Rocky and not getting JJ??? Lunacy!!!

            Rocky the glass cannon is NEVER going to play 22 games. We ALL got him hoping he'd at least make the byes alas he didnt.

            Barlow has GOTS to gizzo!!!! Trade him out for JJ.

            Why??? Have you seen JJ run… and run… and run????? Thats why. & 7 games at Etihad say no more.

            As long as you use both trades this compulspory trading week then your team should be better for it 🙂

              hedski · 04/04/2016 at 23:58

              Look a bit harder swinger they play at least a dozen there coupl at the g one at the cattery and go to wa sa qland nsw bugger all. Soft draw. Get on jj

    The Ranger · 04/04/2016 at 14:34

    How's ya rookies doing Lek?

      LEKD0G · 04/04/2016 at 19:18

      Don't have Paps or Adams 🙁

        The Ranger · 04/04/2016 at 20:25

        So will you be corrective trading to get them?
        I don't have Paps or Kennedy but all the rooks I have are playing.
        I'm trying to weigh up how important it is to get them in.

    CORSETTI · 04/04/2016 at 14:36

    Rocks never been the same since concussions

    Holty · 04/04/2016 at 15:19

    agree with Rocky Lek but I cant keep Barlow. Spending to much time in the forward line and he proved last year he cant play there. On another topic, how you feeling about our Blues? I know we go belted but i was still very impressed how we went about it.

      LEKD0G · 04/04/2016 at 19:22

      I know we lost but the positives are positive

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 16:28

    Rampe is a premo?

      LEKD0G · 04/04/2016 at 19:19

      Premo price, POD, not going well

        Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:03

        I don't see a 450k player as a premo I guess. Feels like he's always been so close but not quite there.

        Has steadily increased his output over time he'll probably come good.

          JamiesNinjas13 · 05/04/2016 at 11:10

          I think 450k defender is seen as a premo price but more of a 'risk' premo not a set and forget premo

Davey · 04/04/2016 at 14:07

from rockliff to zazharakis? downgrade trade perhaps??

    MaccasMarvels · 04/04/2016 at 14:58

    Rockliff (presuming he's missing this week) becomes handy for captains loophole with Brissy playing last.

sambochristie · 04/04/2016 at 14:13

The conservative Supercoacher in me wants to hold both Rocky and Barlow, but I missed Libba. This is an opportunity I must take. Barlow to Libba, Gresham to Papley for me.

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/04/2016 at 14:19

    Getting Libba in makes alot of sense. He is starting to look more and more like a keeper and if not he will make you money

    @footy_bec · 04/04/2016 at 14:24

    I am doing the same except holding Barlow and trading Rocky. The kitty is now healthy for some upgrades.

Xav · 04/04/2016 at 14:18

Got barlow rocky and wingard who is the most urgent to trade and who should i hold

    Alex · 04/04/2016 at 14:25

    all of them

    Cashcows · 04/04/2016 at 15:17

    It's looking like rocky will miss this week so you can hold off on him, price wont change.

    Barlow will drop so maybe him first. Wingard against essendon, could hold off if you have a rookie trade you want to do instead.

    Barlow
    Wingard
    Rocky (if he doesn't play. If he does, punt before wingard)

    Phil · 04/04/2016 at 15:22

    Don't trade Wingard!

    Super_Freak · 04/04/2016 at 16:28

    Hold Rocky. Don't trade Wingard he went well R1, he'll bounce back after the Crows smashing this week. I've already ditched Barlow, just don't think he'll be any good

Mitch · 04/04/2016 at 14:25

Is it worth getting Hall with the likes of O'Meara and Swallow to return soon?

    sambochristie · 04/04/2016 at 14:30

    Yes.

    Box · 04/04/2016 at 17:19

    They won't be returning soon!

      BC · 05/04/2016 at 00:37

      Hall is the real deal Mitch

Corsetti · 04/04/2016 at 14:37

No continuity

Dice · 04/04/2016 at 14:37

I need help.

What the hell am I doing with Bartel?
Scores of 88 and 61, one game was a great win the next a bad loss. I don't think he can avg over 90 again.
I never trade someone of his price this early, I didn't see much of the GWS game but i'm thinking his best is behind him.
Should I hold or trade?

    Holty · 04/04/2016 at 15:09

    im keeping him. I still believe he will be top 10.

    Jonathan Camac · 04/04/2016 at 16:07

    Ive got the same dilemma as you Dice. At the moment I'm holding, but gosh I'm tempted

    Leeds17 · 04/04/2016 at 17:25

    If thats you're biggest problem you're doing alright!

    It's hard to be confident that he'll ave 90+ but he's a champion and it's worth giving him time to see if he can turn it around.

    James Sykes · 04/04/2016 at 17:41

    do we need to grab Johannisen for bartel before its too late?

      Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 18:05

      I'm going to say yes. 2016 is the year of the young speedsters.

        Dice · 05/04/2016 at 07:51

        I'm lucky i picked the right rookies before the season started.
        I think because of that I'm burning Bartel for Johannisen. Gotta be in it to win it!

    Dean · 04/04/2016 at 18:45

    HOLD Bartel – If that's the worst of your problems then you must be doing well…

Steele · 04/04/2016 at 14:53

I'll be trading Rockliff and holding Barlow.

As a Brisbane supporter even if Rockliff plays this week, he won't be 100%. Plus I don't think he has enough experienced support there to help him with Beams out and also Rich a possibility of being out. And Geelong are going to pump us this week!

Apparently there are over 12,000 people already who have traded Barlow this week. That now makes him a POD player with so few holding onto him.

Surely Bennell will come in and play that HF role that plays a bit of midfield, while Barlow can feel free to run around and get the pill. Still a big possibility he can average 100 for the rest of the year.

Any thoughts on that community?

    Cashcows · 04/04/2016 at 15:12

    12k dropping barlow doesnt make him a pod… at least yet. 70k still have him and you dont know if that 12k are the people who are usually at the top of SC. 30k people could drop barlow but if the top 10k players still have him, not really a pod.

    Just some food for thought, I like the reasoning and barlow could come around but I'm personally going with barlow first to fix up other areas.

    LUKE · 04/04/2016 at 19:22

    exactly

SlimerTime · 04/04/2016 at 15:05

Hi Community,
would love your thoughts on Zaharakis???
Can he maintain this output???

    SD6 · 04/04/2016 at 18:47

    I suspect he wont get as much freedom against stronger opposition.

REN · 04/04/2016 at 15:20

reports are that Rockliff is very unlikely to play this week. Hold or trade?

    Your mum · 04/04/2016 at 18:00

    Read the article you moron . Says it all .

Jimbo · 04/04/2016 at 15:21

Agreed that Barlow has been horribilis for the first 2 rounds. But consider this hypothetical, What if he had gone 111, 99, 104, 100, 60, 120, 89, 61. Would you now still think he's a burnman?

Is it the fact that those 2 score are consecutive and have come in round 1 and 2 have a bearing on your decision. Particularly at a time where one can often be looking for a trade, any trade to make.

Do the tonnes he had in his 2016 NAB games count for nothing as far as scoring potential go.

Barlow has played Western Bulldogs (ave. 77) Gold Coast (ave. 73). Historically he struggles against these two teams. Note: other than averaging only 73 against Sydney, Barlow averages above 92.6 against ALL other sides. I'd take that from a F3/4 any day, especially one i didn't have to burn a trade on to get in my team.

Consider a hold community…

    Tiges · 04/04/2016 at 15:36

    Rate this analysis really highly Jimbo!! You absolute legend, I was strongly considering holding him and reckon this is the nail in the coffin. I'm holding him with the idea of if I trade right he can even be an F7 if all goes to plan!

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/04/2016 at 16:05

    God I hope your into something Jimbo , too much carnage already.

    Jimbo · 04/04/2016 at 16:07

    I wanted to add this too. I think it can come down to NEEDS and WANTS at the start of the season. When hitting the trade button ask whether you really NEED to trade or do you just WANT to?

    Do they have a significant role change,
    no longer in the best 22
    do they have an L.T.I.

    The distinction between the definitions of need and want is often blurred when you have all 30 trades. After all, there are seemingly plentiful trade in options around you as you scan your team for a weaker link.

    When trades are few it gets a little easier to decide on your needs and wants. Often though at the end of the season your hand is forced choose from a smaller pool of options many of which may not have been on your pre-season watch list.

    Have you ever been in postion in SuperCoach where you had planned to trade out an under performing player but you HAD no option but to trade 2 different players that particular week because they had season ending injuries. That under performing player dropped in price for a few weeks then in 2-3 weeks later he hits his straps and repays you for picking him. That's what happened to me last year with Kade Kolodjashnij. He had a poor start, then with team injuries around him he got going as a great defensive P.O.D.

    Just wanted to offer my experience.

    Go with your gut

    Good luck in round 3 community

      Crowmagnon · 04/04/2016 at 18:27

      interesting, thought provoking comments, Jimbo.
      I really want to end Barlow, but I know I will need that trade later.

    ThatDamnRascal · 04/04/2016 at 16:16

    Watched him pretty closely, well as close as you can on the TV, against the suns and the bloke just butchers the footy which appears this year more than other has a negative effect on his score. Pretty sure Suban is getting more of a run in the middle than Barlow and when Bennell comes in can see him getting midfield minutes over Barlow. Also Morobito is apparently a few weeks away.

    If you are going to trade out Barlow make sure it is to a keeper (look a which player he shares a bye with) or down to rookie and bank the dosh for a player raid come bye rounds

      Don · 04/04/2016 at 16:52

      And what if Barlow turns about to be the griffen of last year? BURNNN

        ThatDamnRascal · 04/04/2016 at 17:04

        Don't quiet get your angle??
        You mean the Griffen that scored 80 or less 9 times last year? Plenty of better options out there.

    ball swing · 04/04/2016 at 22:20

    thing is Jimbo he HASNT got a ton… and is UNLIKELY to get many. He will average 90 at best… thats at BEST. Too many cheapies in the fwds ATM. Infact currently Barlow is the ONLY FWD i have avgeing under 100… ohh kerridge at 96 also.

    Youngy · 05/04/2016 at 11:13

    Yes the tonnes in the NAB he scored do count for nothing. It's the NAB…..

Kev · 04/04/2016 at 15:26

Well said, Higgo. Exciting time for rookie coaches round 3 to go wild chasing the big performers after being told to hold last week. If you're serious about this caper and did your preseason research you would've picked proven premiums, to jump off after two weeks is a supercoach no no

I went in with Broad after his nab cup, if he doesn't get a game this week for Grimes I'll trade him to Papley via DPP

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 18:04

    Broad wasn't named round one so you shouldn't have gone in with him in the first place. Trade.

Curious · 04/04/2016 at 15:28

Looking at the leaders I can't help but notice a couple if elite runners in Scully & Zaharkis at the top of the tree, could the limited rotations be having an effect on certain players? Could the Blitz take the mantle of number 1 ruck?

    Coxy · 04/04/2016 at 15:37

    I haven't watched the giants games but from what I've watched of Essendon, zaharakis has dominated late in games, so you could be onto something.

    Cashcows · 04/04/2016 at 15:53

    I dont watch too much gws or scully in general but I caught a bit this week and the commentators did mention that his work rate and the limited rotations have benefited someone like him. Make of that what you will.

Cashcows · 04/04/2016 at 15:30

Thoughts on Zac Merrett?

    nick · 04/04/2016 at 15:58

    I like Zac although dont now how long these scores will last.

    Thinking of either Barlow to Zac or barlow to JJ

Holty · 04/04/2016 at 15:31

This might sound wierd but if Rocky is named, ill be trading him. if is isnt and is allowed to rest his niggles for a few weeks, ill keep him on the bench.

    ball swing · 04/04/2016 at 22:22

    nope. Rocky aint never going to play more than 18 games… Id also say Fyfe and GAJ will only play 19-20 at most aswell.

Rick · 04/04/2016 at 15:36

Thoughts on these trades?

Mills to Papley via Kerridge DPP
Barlow to Zorko or Aaron Hall

Need to get in Papley and Milla seems the only viable option to trade out

    Lachie · 04/04/2016 at 15:47

    What was the point of getting mills int then? Sounds like a sidewards trade to me

    Chill · 04/04/2016 at 16:01

    Don't like it one bit Rick. Mills will make you money. Trades are way more important. Unless you have someone else to trade in Papley i dont see a Mills to Papley being viable.

    ThatDamnRascal · 04/04/2016 at 16:11

    Can see the $$ value though net around 180K (player price difference + expected price change). If you didn't trade last week I'd seriously consider it purely on $ value. But Mills will still get about 45k price rise next week. Given McGlynn is on the cusp of returning Papley could, harsh I know but that's Sydney for ya, make way for him.

Rob · 04/04/2016 at 15:51

Barlow and Rockliff are gonna have to go now.

Who to bring in?

I have 1056K to spend to get a Midfielder and a Forward

Midfield is already : Fyfe, Danger, Pendelbury, ( Rockliff), Cripps, libba, Mills, Oliver,( Menadue, Petracca, Davis)
Forward is already: Dahlhaus, ( Barlow), Franklin, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, ( Brown, AM-T)

Is Zach Merret an option. He has had a very good start to the season. Also i was thinking Parker in the midfield as he isnt owned by crazy amounts of people.

Any suggestions will help?

    ThatDamnRascal · 04/04/2016 at 16:04

    May as well grab the little master can't see him dropping in price anytime soon.

    You can either generate yourself some extra cash and move on Barlow for a rookie that will increase in price next week or go for a fwd keeper like a Zorko maybe??
    Guessing Adams is in Def? If not slot him into your forward line now.

    James Sykes · 04/04/2016 at 17:52

    keep an eye on Jack Martin as a bit of a smokey to free up cash to get gazza……..I would hold on both at the moment.

    Beezneez · 05/04/2016 at 12:37

    Was about to reply Barlow to Merrett and Rockliff to Parker but you answered your own question.

DJPounstar · 04/04/2016 at 15:51

Happy with choosing M.Walters over Barlow as my POD, just curious as too how things will change with barlow/walters when we see the inclusion of H. Bennell.

    Holty · 04/04/2016 at 15:55

    with how Barlow is going, maybe he will be dropped for Bennell.

      DJPounstar · 04/04/2016 at 16:08

      This is true, yet i can't see that happening. I see them playing different positions with Bennell playing from half back for the run and carry and Barlow now being a forward who didn't getting a single touch in the defensive 50 last game. Depending on the severity of T. Sheridans injury, i would say T.Sheridan for H.Bennell.

      Adds · 04/04/2016 at 16:17

      If Barlow is dropped it will give a good justification to trade!

Dave · 04/04/2016 at 15:53

ZAHARAKIS?

    SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 17:36

    Yep that's how you spell it.

    Oh you mean is he worth getting in? Looks undeniable value right now. Will he keep pumping out tons week in week out I'm not sure yet but if he can do it at Port this week that would be a very good sign.

T-Man · 04/04/2016 at 16:07

Great read Higgo but i having both Sidebottom and Rocky I'm temped to trade Rocky and Walker to Ablett and Garner if Rocky misses a week.

dean_tigers · 04/04/2016 at 16:08

gday community
thoughts on my team and possible trades ?
not sure whether to hold or trade barlow and rockliff
DEF: SHAW, LAIRD, SIMPSON, ADAMS, DEA, WEITERING (AMT, BROWN)
MID: PARKER, DANGER, LIBBA, GAFF, FYFE, B CROUCH, MILLS, ROCKLIFF (HEWETT, DAVIS, DUNKLEY)
RUCK: NIC NAT, GAWN (LOERSCH)
FWD: BARLOW, ROBINSON, HALL, WELLS, KERRIDGE, MENADUE (MCCARTHY, MCGOVERN)

would appreciate any thoughts and trade options.
how important is it to get kennedy and papley in?
hold or trade barlow and rocky.

cheers

    Mick · 04/04/2016 at 16:39

    Papley will go up 100k which is 70k more then either of McCarthy or Mcgovern…. so its a question of how much is a trade worth and is papley going to play more consistently then the other 2

    Lachie · 04/04/2016 at 16:48

    Personally, I'm most likely going to trade Barlow down to Papley

    derek · 05/04/2016 at 09:38

    your team looks good. What is your rank?

    I wouldn't be chasing Papley, the rookies you have all look good and not worth a trade to make a few extra dollars.

    I really like the look of McGovern, and McCarthy has done some good things as well.

    If Dunkley is dropped i would trade him to kennedy if you have the extra cash, otherwise i would hold.

      dean_tigers · 05/04/2016 at 10:06

      i am only ranked in top 15% due to poor captain choices so far!
      i'm thinking of holding barlow and rocky, do you think that is a good move ?

Jack · 04/04/2016 at 16:17

Hey lads in a dilemma, should I trade Barlow to zorko first or McGroven to JJ. Any advice be helpful cheers

    Mick · 04/04/2016 at 16:22

    Id hold on Zorko as his price won't change for another week.

    Harry · 04/04/2016 at 18:46

    I have McGovern and I'm keeping the faith. Injured rd 1 and he was one of the eagles top scorers on the weekend. The problem was no eagle scored over 100

Fox · 04/04/2016 at 16:25

Gresham to Papley (via kerridge ) and Barlow to Zorko ! Gresh has worst BE out rooks and I have all the rest except Papley …. Thoughts ???

    Bowski · 04/04/2016 at 22:56

    Good call

Gibbs · 04/04/2016 at 16:26

Who out of Dunkly or Gresham should I trade via dpp for papley?

    @rileyflanigan24 · 04/04/2016 at 16:54

    I've gone for Gresham

    Bomber56 · 04/04/2016 at 18:30

    Gresham

    derek · 05/04/2016 at 09:43

    if both play this week i would hold and not waste a trade for a few extra dollars.

    I though Dunkley was poor the first week and was lucky to hold his place for round 2, but its hard to change a winning team so he should play again.

    Gresham is a really good player and will just need a few weeks to come good, it would be a pity to jump off him just as he comes good.

Votes · 04/04/2016 at 16:27

Who should I trade for Rocky? Looking at Parker! Other premo mids are Fyfe, danger, Ablett and Gray

    Lachie · 04/04/2016 at 16:49

    You need all of those midfielders by the end of the year.

Nath · 04/04/2016 at 16:27

Not sure if anyone really would care but what would a good overall team price increase be after players change this week … 500k? 1million?

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 16:39

    I'm looking at about 1 million.

      Nath · 04/04/2016 at 16:52

      Nice!! Hows the team going so far?

        Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 17:10

        Round one 2156 (743k in bank)

        Hunter > Dangerfield

        Seedsman > JJ

        Round 2 2069

        Possible trades this week

        Rocky/Steele/De Goey > Zaharakis

        Barlow/Steele/De Goey > Papley

        Going for high profit early and burn a few trades now to have a strong team later for league wins. I don't worry about byes or trade heavily through that period.

          The Mountain · 04/04/2016 at 17:21

          You burnt one with hunter mate and if you are planning to trade this week, the only one i would look to trade would be steele

            Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 17:33

            Yep regretted it, but in the end I was going to upgrade him to a top 10 mid anyway, just missed out on the 50-150k profit that may or may not have come with hunter. Was a little disappointed that he only got 79 SC off 31 touches in round one.

            I'm thinking keep rocky and barlow at this stage, rocky went into the last game with major bruising on his arm, and then the calf problem happened. In a couple of weeks he will probably come good.

            Same could be said for Barlow two weeks could paint a different picture.

            De Goey's BE is still fine but I really though he would fire without sidey and swan. It may not be his breakout season after all.

            I hope steele is named this week because I really think he has a lot of upside.

            So may not do any trades at all this week.

          Mick · 04/04/2016 at 17:27

          Looking good!
          Il be going for zaha this week instead of Barlow

          Luckily only trade I've had to use and looking at going up a million as well

            Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 17:42

            Sounds good Mick

          Richard · 05/04/2016 at 20:26

          Looks like someone is point chasing with so many sideways trades early

    The Mountain · 04/04/2016 at 17:22

    500K+ would be about where we all want to be mate

      Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 17:43

      I just get greedy for profit, that damn papley kid is tearing it up.

    Cozza · 04/04/2016 at 23:55

    I'm looking at around $720k this week if keeping Barlow and Rocky. If I trade Barlow for Papley it will be around $860ish

Rick Grimes · 04/04/2016 at 16:33

Worth picking up Gibson? I know he won't go like that every week, but surely looking top 5 defender at this stage. I'd be turning L McDonald into him, so an early upgrade.

    Lachie · 04/04/2016 at 16:48

    not worth it

    ThatDamnRascal · 04/04/2016 at 17:06

    He'll avg about 85 for the year with a few big ones sprinkled through there.

Keano96 · 04/04/2016 at 16:38

Thoughts on a B.Crouch trade down to Parish? Wouldnt be surprised if Parish is able to score similarly to Crouch

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 16:46

    Waste of a trade I reckon.

    SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 19:27

    B.Crouch is getting better each week so it's probably not long before he bangs out a ton.

    I'm keeping him in my side.

      Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 19:59

      I agree, he could even end up a keeper at M7/M8 in an ideal sc world.

Mick · 04/04/2016 at 16:41

Whats the best option.. Barlow out and either Parker, L or S Mitchell or Zaha come in?

Adam · 04/04/2016 at 16:43

If you had to pick 2 players from this list who would u guys choose:
Zorko
Parker
R.gray
Zaharakis
S.mitchell

    @rileyflanigan24 · 04/04/2016 at 16:53

    R Gray and Parker

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 17:25

    Zaha if you think the risk will pay off and he can become a keeper.

    Mitchell if you think his body will hold up for the whole season.

    Gray and Parker should be the most reliable options.

    But any combination of those guys could pay off.

    Kev · 04/04/2016 at 17:32

    Gray
    Parker
    Zorko
    Smitch
    Zaha

    derek · 05/04/2016 at 09:47

    Zorko is a forward!

    R gray is in my top 10 midfielders now (jumped ahead of Sloane).

    out of the others, i would put SMitchell just ahead of parker. With hodge and shiel missing, he will be getting plenty of touches

      Beezneez · 05/04/2016 at 12:42

      Zorko is DPP mid/fwd

@Matt_Parrott · 04/04/2016 at 16:50

No one talking about H.Shaw? Surely he has to go just to put some money in the bank (will drop at least $50k this week). Maybe pick him up again around R5 for <$500k.. Problem is I also have D.Rich who has potential to score big or be completely tagged out of the game.

    @rileyflanigan24 · 04/04/2016 at 16:52

    What's the point of trading him out if you're gonna pick him back up? Using two trades for basically nothing
    If he's in your side for the whole year then it won't matter what happens to his price mate

      Derek · 04/04/2016 at 17:24

      Two trades is not worth $120k

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 17:23

    Heater can produce big scores so he will be fine.

    Rich doesn't have the potential to score big, not sure why people think he has, because I've never seen it.

      @Matt_Parrott · 04/04/2016 at 17:45

      Thanks for the reality check – AMazing how easy it is to get inside your head…and be unable to get out.

@rileyflanigan24 · 04/04/2016 at 16:53

Gresham to Kennedy
Barlow to Franklin or Zaharakis
Glad to have any thoughts

    Kev · 04/04/2016 at 17:30

    Yes to the first, hold for the second

James · 04/04/2016 at 17:04

Is stringer an option for barlow?

    Kev · 04/04/2016 at 17:31

    Bit up and down

    Phil · 04/04/2016 at 18:06

    My gut says next year onwards he will become relevant

Boltons Blues · 04/04/2016 at 17:06

can have any mid i want

already have Ablett, Danger, Fyfe, Shiel, Cripps, B Crouch

    BC · 05/04/2016 at 00:50

    Libba BB – take the cash and the points – or just straight to Hannebery – av 110 with a quarter on the bench in round 1 and almost certain top 10 mid

aurion · 04/04/2016 at 17:07

Is zorko a good option this year? Thinking barlow to zorko this week

    Kev · 04/04/2016 at 17:28

    Not the worst idea. Zorko the Magnificent was magnificent in a 5-goal loss

Derma147 · 04/04/2016 at 17:07

O'Meara to Mills?

    Tony · 04/04/2016 at 17:09

    You have O'Meara?

      siri · 04/04/2016 at 17:18

      Mmmmmmm……

    Phil · 04/04/2016 at 18:05

    Parish is going better than Mills, I'd go him. Unless if you don't have Adams or Papley, getting them in (via DPP) would be better

    Crowmagnon · 04/04/2016 at 18:43

    to anyone.

Teague · 04/04/2016 at 17:12

Had Greene, Fyfe, Rocky, Dusty, Laird, Houli – all pretty much flopped in Rd 1 & still scored over 2000. Held my mettle and in Rd 2 they all (apart from Rocky who would have if didn't get injured) went large – total score 2400+. Moral of the story is DO NOT TRADE unless out for multiple weeks (i.e., more than 2 weeks) and don't have cover. I should know finished in top 1% last year.

Cam · 04/04/2016 at 17:25

Podcast?

    Phil · 04/04/2016 at 18:50

    Tuesday's

Mickka · 04/04/2016 at 17:38

I'm Gonna decide to persist with Barlow and Rockliff guys….but is there any important trades that need to be made? For example I don't have Adams and papley should I bring them in ?

Thanks community

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 17:46

    Adams is a must have. Papley could be seen as one too (for profit) but I doubt his JS is as good as Adams.

    Paulie Walnuts · 04/04/2016 at 17:55

    I'm also having a re think and keeping them both, I have Adams but no Papley ,I will bring him for Dunkley via DPP

      Crowmagnon · 04/04/2016 at 18:48

      Round 2 is for rookies first. Sideways trades are a luxury.
      Adams is an absolute must have and Papley is going to make enough cash to make the trade worthwhile. Get rid of any non players first.

Danger · 04/04/2016 at 17:40

Priorities out of johanissen, liberatore, Papley, Kennedy to get in this round?
I have Barlow, de goey, crouch,Rockliff and Gresham who I can possibly get rid of.

    Steeeve · 04/04/2016 at 23:09

    Since you can only choose two, Libba and Kennedy

Shake n bake · 04/04/2016 at 17:40

R Gray playin Frid night v Essendon at home hope he goes big. I couldn't really loophole this week witch stuffed me with Danger as capt. Have Wyatt as my loophole so only can go Gray as vc.

    Craig · 04/04/2016 at 18:56

    If you have Rockliff he can be your non playing loophole this week. Brissy play Sunday.

      Shake n bake · 04/04/2016 at 19:46

      Didn't start with Rocky went Shiel instead.

    hedski · 05/04/2016 at 00:10

    I'm hovering the vc over robbie shake looks good

James Sykes · 04/04/2016 at 17:44

Peter.

Is there another variable to consider on that flow chart…….the need to get in a potential break out player……I submit this thought bubble……bartel may or may not be a hold based on your flow due to age…..however missing Johanissen and holding bartel maybe a bigger issue.

Thoughts?

    Adds · 04/04/2016 at 20:20

    Agree, no point holding a player if there is a better option

Josh · 04/04/2016 at 17:45

Hey all, have decided on definatley putting a line through Rockliff, I already have pendles, Fyfe, pridis, Sheilds in my midfield and have plenty of money to upgrade players to premos fairly early. So I would like to trade him for someone now who is set to go up but still hopefully be in the top 12 at the end. So far I'm thinking;
Rockliff > Parker, Gray or zaharakis

Thoughts on the best option appreciated, cheers

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:59

    I've almost convinced myself to ditch rockliff too. Just can't be bothered with unreliability this year.

    I like all three players you've picked, zaharakis could profit greatly, but could result in having to be traded again if he drops off.

    Gray is an absolute gun and would be a set and forget I think.

    Parker is great too, but don't get carried away with his first couple of rounds, sydney has a lot players that will have good weeks and take points away from Parker.

    Rod · 06/04/2016 at 11:29

    Where's Gaz???

Lucas · 04/04/2016 at 17:53

Zaharakis? Do I or don't I

    Danners · 04/04/2016 at 20:05

    Do it if you think he can become a reliable premo

fatboyfat7 · 04/04/2016 at 17:55

I know its early days but what are peoples thoughts on the long term prospects of Wells, Kerridge and Kennedy? Wells in particular, potential keeper?

    SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 18:13

    The way that supposed premo forwards are tracking early this season it wouldn't surprise me if we end up keeping one or two of those guys at F5/F6.

    But that said I certainly wouldn't count on it and they will all likely still remain stepping stones, albeit very good ones.

      Crowmagnon · 04/04/2016 at 18:42

      I'm still trying to think of Wells as a rookie, to be culled when the time is right.
      With his injury history, I'm certainly saving a trade for him.
      It will be very handy if even 1 of these guys can see the season out for us.

      Derek · 04/04/2016 at 19:01

      I have him as a cash generator, however I might end up being the last one upgraded or even become a handy F7/M9 for the run home, Motlop of last year

        Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 19:58

        If wells plays all year he'll have a higher average than motlop surely.

        Kerridge and Wells could be keepers.

      Richard · 05/04/2016 at 20:36

      Wells is a premo coming back from injury. He is definitely a keeper

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/04/2016 at 21:17

    I picked them as stepping stones and that is what I will be sticking to. However that could change depending on their ouput.

Anthony · 04/04/2016 at 17:57

The thing with Rocky is that I have lost all confidence in his body and his ability to play more than 15 games in a season.

It might be wise to hold, but I feel that at some stage this season he is going to need to be traded out due to injury. So whether I do it now or not, he won't be in my final team.

Based on that, I'm going to trade him out now as I don't think he'll but at this price again come the end of the year.

I could be very wrong though.

    CapTnKaOs · 04/04/2016 at 18:33

    If you believe he can't play more than 15 games, your line of reasoning makes sense to me. My only caution would be to replace him like for like with a quality player. Someone who has a proven record and will be in your team at the end of the season.

      Dee · 05/04/2016 at 08:35

      like a Robbie Gray for example….

Saundo · 04/04/2016 at 18:10

Anyone going to trade out Shaw ?

    Paulie Walnuts · 04/04/2016 at 18:19

    Definitely not mate, confident he will top 5 if not No. 1 defender again this year

    Slamming Sam · 04/04/2016 at 18:22

    You are kidding. He is one of the top six defenders. Sure he hasn't fired yet but he will. Trade him out at your peril then waste two trades buying him back. Why do that to save $50K that he may drop this week. Do not trade out premium players
    .

    Dave · 04/04/2016 at 18:27

    I will be. I got sucked in by all the hype around here saying that Shaw would be the No.1 defender and all that jazz.

    Shaw to JJ plus nearly $200K for the piggy bank – BANG! – Welcome!

      Crowmagnon · 04/04/2016 at 18:36

      The only consistent occurrence in SC is the God's severely punishing trades like that.
      Hold Shaw. Everyone who does not have him will trade him in soon, myself included.

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 18:37

    No way will I be trading Shaw.

    Danners · 04/04/2016 at 20:04

    No, usually has a slow start

    Youngy · 04/04/2016 at 20:05

    No. Hold.

    Rod · 06/04/2016 at 11:31

    Why on earth would you do that?!

azza · 04/04/2016 at 18:20

anyone know if sheridan will miss any games due to injury?
saw him run out the end of game so thought it wasnt that bad…

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:22

    If he ran out the end of the game then he'll be fine.

Andrew · 04/04/2016 at 18:20

Is it worth burning a trade ( dunkley or McCarthy) to pick up Hewett?

Thanks in advance.

    Big balls · 04/04/2016 at 18:23

    Don't pick up Hewett get papley

      Andrew · 04/04/2016 at 18:38

      I have papley already, would that change your opinion? Thanks big.

    SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 19:14

    I don't think so. I currently have a midfield donut with Keays and will probably pass on Hewett after his 48 on the weekend.

    So i certainly wouldn't trade out another warm body in Dunkley or McCarthy for him.

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/04/2016 at 19:16

    Hewett's job security is not great. I would hold onto Dunkley and wait for Petracca instead

      Andrew · 04/04/2016 at 19:19

      Thanks all, need to take a deep breath I think.

    Steeeve · 04/04/2016 at 20:44

    I'd hold off but he's stiff if he gets dropped, his score went down after getting pinged holding the pill a couple times and some good gutsy defense picking off his inside 50 entries. Still looking like he belongs.

Shaun · 04/04/2016 at 18:24

Higgo or anyone ! Do we use a trade for likes of McGovern (adelaiderook) or McCarthy and go to Papley ? Is it a waste or worth it.

    leviathan · 04/04/2016 at 18:31

    Perhaps Gresham. He will barely rise in price after two inept performances. The kid might not be quite ready for at AFL level. Will be a good player in a few years.

    Derek · 04/04/2016 at 18:54

    I have both, very happy. They will both make good cash, maybe similar to Paps, just at a slower rate.

brettijewellerycomau · 04/04/2016 at 18:35

Menadue or Barlow to Papley?
Rockliff to Robbie Gray?

    magpie4ver · 04/04/2016 at 18:39

    Think you should keep Menadue he will generate cash as where Barlow is going to probably lose 50k or more?

Ryan · 04/04/2016 at 18:40

If I trade Rocky, who's the best out of Titch, Parker and Gray?

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:24

    All good options I like Titch because most people won't have him. It's impossible to say who's the best though.

Andrew · 04/04/2016 at 18:42

What do we reckon Priddis or Hanners?

    CapTnKaOs · 04/04/2016 at 18:51

    Priddis for me. But only because I can never choose the right Swan midfielder. You can bet that now everyone is talking Parker and Titch, JPK or Hanners will blow the roof off instead.

    Danners · 04/04/2016 at 20:03

    Priddis if you want a reliable midfielder

    Youngy · 04/04/2016 at 20:07

    Priddis, to much talent in that SYD mid.

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:35

    Neither. Get a POD.

      ball swing · 04/04/2016 at 22:28

      No. dont get a POD. get a mid who you think will be top10 mid.

        lachi · 04/04/2016 at 23:00

        no get a pod who you think will be top 10 mid

          Andrew · 05/04/2016 at 12:52

          Already have Shiel as a POD

    hedski · 05/04/2016 at 00:17

    Ward will be top 8 scorer

Paul · 04/04/2016 at 18:44

Think I'll be trading Barlow to Hall, moving Kerridge into the midfield and trading either Brad Crouch, Mills or Oliver to Papley. I'm thinking Oliver out, because Melbourne aren't great and his high starting value means a lower chance of making money. Doesn't seem like he's going to be a 100+ scorer anyway. Mills seems like he might be more consistent….

    magpie4ver · 04/04/2016 at 18:49

    Papley is a FWD so not sure how you will pull off that trade?

      Chester · 04/04/2016 at 19:07

      DPP trade , I'm trading out Dunkley via Kerridge for Papley

Derek · 04/04/2016 at 18:47

I'm going to Hold onto Barlow and Rocky.

The idea is to get more premiums, not less.

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 18:51

    Can understand Barlow, but a premium must also be around to play the season.

    In 2015 16 games for rocky and 18 games in 2014 is not very convincing of being a reliable premo.

    Dave · 04/04/2016 at 18:54

    But is Barlow really a premo? Looking more like the new Griffen who Pieman had to take out back and shoot.

    There's a difference between keeping the faith and just living in a fool's paradise! 🙂

      Derek · 04/04/2016 at 19:27

      Even if he is Griffin-like, still keep him. Or like Cotchin the year before. You gotta keep them if they arnt injured. They could always come good and then you really kick yourself, at worst you trade them out last when you know you still have a few trades left.

      People are forgetting how valuable trades are

        The Ranger · 04/04/2016 at 20:33

        Any rookie corrections this week Derek?

          Derek · 04/04/2016 at 21:17

          Only one I'm thinking of is Gresham to Papa, but I'm not 100% as I think Gresham will get enough games to make $100k, just do it a lot slower than Papa.

            The Ranger · 04/04/2016 at 21:41

            Yeah same.
            Paps and Kennedy are the two I'm considering but they're trades I don't have to make.

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/04/2016 at 19:20

    I am too Derek, hoping they can turn it around.
    But I am not confident that they r elite premo's we were hoping for this year.

    siri · 04/04/2016 at 19:42

    Hold

Harry · 04/04/2016 at 18:49

Just interested in plenty of comments for Barlow saying when Bennell returns, Barlow will come back into the midfield. I would actually think the opposite- when Bennell comes back he may simply take Barlow's spot who then goes back to the WAFL

    SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 18:59

    Yes that's another reason why the poor form can't be tolerated for much longer. IIRC Barlow has been dropped before and you have a ready made replacement in Bennell just waiting in the wings.

      Northernsoul74 · 04/04/2016 at 20:24

      Think we just need to wait and see the teams this week. If Barlow named I'd expect him be back in the midfield, if Ross has had enough he'll get dumped this week.

Chester · 04/04/2016 at 18:50

Wells or Libba – If you had to pick 1 to trade in who would it be ?

    SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 18:58

    Wells by a whisker as they are both great trade ins this week.

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/04/2016 at 19:22

    U should have both . Premo output at bargain price

    Youngy · 04/04/2016 at 20:09

    Wells for the sole purpose that he plays FWD

      Cozza · 05/04/2016 at 00:00

      and he's $100k cheaper – only averaging 6 less than Libba atm

M-Town Ballers · 04/04/2016 at 18:56

Great write up a good reminder to go over last years magazine in these situations
Will hold Barlow, would think ross the toss will change back to his defensive game plan with Barlow at centre clearances and Bennell coming in soon he'll be aloud to run free and kick goals
May drop rocky depending on news coming out during the week regarding the severity of his injury but it doesn't look good for him isn't this the same injury that troubled him all preseason

DDJ · 04/04/2016 at 18:58

G'day community! I don't have Papley yet, if named I'll need to bring him in without a doubt. But who do I trade OUT? Rich, Rockliff or Barlow?

I can see Barlow and Rockliff being in my squad as at least F6 & M8 or M7&8 by the end of the season and I think Rich has the potential to be a good D6, I'd like to hold on all 3 but I feel Papley is too important to let slide for the sake of cash generation.

Otherwise I could also reverse my trade of Suckling > JJ and trade Suckling > Papley instead but I don't want to miss the JJ train as he will be more important than Rich imo.

What are your thoughts community, is JJ worth getting before the price rise? And who would you trade OUT for Papley out of Rich, Rocky and Barlow?

    Kev · 04/04/2016 at 19:55

    You'll still be able to pick up JJ under 500k after this week. Dogs play the hawks which is a better indicator than games against a shite Freo and the saints.

    I'd hold all 3 depending on injury news. Your punt on sucking looks like a fail at this early point, so punting him for Paps is probably the best move

      DDJ · 04/04/2016 at 22:13

      Handy advice, cheers Kev

Stuart · 04/04/2016 at 19:05

Thoughts guys,

Trading in Betts or Hall which is better ??

    DDJ · 04/04/2016 at 19:29

    I'd say Hall is the better option with the dual position, also if he was a midfield only option he would still be a lock in most sides by the end of the season. Plays better with Ablett in the squad, he's cheaper and I think Betts is more of a POD than a lock.

      Stuart · 04/04/2016 at 19:50

      Thanks DDJ much appreciated

    leviathan · 04/04/2016 at 19:37

    Hall is your man.

    He is becoming a very consistent high output player. He pumps out 100+ scores week in week out. You can still get him at a ridiculously low price of 428K!!

    Eddie Betts is talented, very talented, and he can score big. But I don't think he will give you consistent output. I see him a bit like Cyril Rioli. Mercurial on the day with 170 SC points and then three weeks of 59, 83, and 74. Eddie is a better fit for the Coach Kings comp.

    Cheers

      Stuart · 04/04/2016 at 19:52

      Thanks Leviathan well explained

    Danners · 04/04/2016 at 20:02

    Hall, will have more midfield time

CapTnKaOs · 04/04/2016 at 19:20

I have Papley. Is Gresham > Parish a waste of a trade?

    tophawk · 04/04/2016 at 19:56

    A rookie sideways trade! Wow!

    You better be confident that Parish is going to deliver you some serious output and coin.

    I have to admit that Gresham, despite his talent, is still in nappies, AFL wise. IMO he will become a serious player in a year or two.

    I traded Papley in to my team at the expense of Gresham today. (dpp)

    As you already have Papley, getting Parish may not be a waste of a trade. That kid kicked the Dees in the face with the winning goal on the weekend. Big wraps on him!

    Cheers

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2016 at 21:37

      Hey hawk besides the dear mids ie mills etc not a great many mid rook choices and really dont see them going up at a much faster rate than the cheaper rooks. I have gresham, davis and dunkley. But cant see anyone else really worth trading in. Hewett? Had good first game relatively quiet in his second. Think i will just stick with these 3 and see what/who plays in the weeks to come?

        Average Joe · 04/04/2016 at 23:16

        Probably a good choice atm Trigger, should see a few more rookie mids like petracca, keays, mathison, cunningham coming in eventually. Ideal timing for some of them would be around the bye rounds so we can cull the fat rookies that we already have.

    Steeeve · 04/04/2016 at 20:50

    Wondering the same but Gresham to Papley

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 21:02

    I think either Papley or Parish are good trade options for Gresham.

Alex · 04/04/2016 at 19:33

Aaron Hall must have?

    siri · 04/04/2016 at 19:40

    Yes…. so far…..

    Danners · 04/04/2016 at 20:11

    At the moment, he is

    BigHaydos · 05/04/2016 at 15:20

    absolutely

Mick · 04/04/2016 at 19:47

Is it a waste to trade gresham out for parrish?

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 19:51

    Seems ok to me.

    Danners · 04/04/2016 at 20:10

    Only if you have all the top rookies

      Mick · 04/04/2016 at 21:18

      So your saying if I have everyone – Davis, mills, Papley, Oliver, menadue, Kennedy, wells and kerridge don't do it or do it?

Swansong · 04/04/2016 at 19:48

Thinking of trading both Barlow and rockliff and going to goto fyfe and then either libba otherwise papley and next week can then trade de goey or mvkenzie to anyone I want.
Any thoughts

    Swansong · 04/04/2016 at 20:00

    If I goto papley it leaves 259 grand in bank to upgrade with next week

Minge E Lee · 04/04/2016 at 19:50

what happened to the sunday podcast??

    tophawk · 04/04/2016 at 20:04

    The boys are too busy playing coach kings.

    Danners · 04/04/2016 at 20:10

    On Tuesday nights this year

Mister_Spock · 04/04/2016 at 20:00

Looking at Barlow's form from last year – scores of 50-60 against the Dogs and Gold Coast. Played poorly against West Coast too, scores of 66 and 29 last year. Might be waiting until round 4 (North Melbourne) to get any decent kind of score

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:39

    Barlow averaged 110 in 2013 and 2014.

    Then it dropped to 93.6 in 2015.

    He's 28 years old, the game has got a lot faster, honestly I just think his output won't be as high anymore. Might only average 80-85 this year.

    Obviously very early to make such a call but it's not looking good for freo in general either, which will affect the whole team's sc output.

      Dee · 05/04/2016 at 08:44

      Barlow gone…

Danners · 04/04/2016 at 20:09

Great work Higgo! After Barlow's game, I did go back to this and I got told to trade him but I won't as he is usually a slow starter. Looking at trading Rockliff and Bartel to JJ and Hannebery, but I look forward to hearing what you say on the podcast.

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:51

    This whole thing of barlow 'usually' being a slow starter is a myth. He was a slow starter in one season, being 2015, the same season that saw his output drop by a massive 18 points per game over the previous year.

Phil · 04/04/2016 at 20:11

After giving it some thought I've decided I'm going to trade Rockliff out for experimentation purposes. I'll will keep track throughout the year on any points gained/lossed throughout the year and see if it was worth a trade.

Dean · 04/04/2016 at 20:33

This season is phenomenal, what seemed to be one of the hardest seasons regarding rookies has turned out to be a absolute dream with players such as: Adams, Kerridge, Kennedy, Papley and then their are those mid-priced players in Hall, Johannisen & Wells although Wells is priced as close to a rookie as we will see in the modern era of fantasy footy.

I have been playing supercoach since it first started and I can only remember one other season that comes remotely close to this season regarding so many talented cheap players.

Granted this is only round 2 and out of those seven players mentioned im 100% certain that NOT all of them will be keepers however they will be important selections or "MUST HAVES" if you will, in order for your side to reach elite promo status come the end of the BYE rounds at the very LATEST.
Due to so many awesome looking players that really look sharp at these rock bottom prices one would think at least one maybe even two of these players mentioned will end up being keepers.
However that being said don't get ahead of yourself just yet, hypothetically speaking for example thinking someone like Wells or Hall are already keepers because it can turn around so fast.

My point being treat them ALL as upgrades until proven otherwise. Now my other point – I see allot of people wanting to jump of so many players, this happens every season and will continue to happen.
A great example this week its Rockliff & Barlow the vast majority are wanting to jump ship already, I can understand those who want to jump of Rocky as he will be out in round 3 maybe even round 4 as calve injuries can linger on.
On the other hand those wanting to jump off Barlow is CRAZY in my opinion and YES I have him, unless Ross Lyon has a ace up his sleeve for Barlow which wouldn't surprise me.
If Ross doesn't do anything with Barlow – then once the vast majority gets rid off Barlow, he then becomes a POD for those who stick FAT with him and most IMPORTANTLY I don't see why someone such as Barlow wont finish as a excellent F6 worst case scenario come season end.

GOOD luck to you all.

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 20:43

    But looking at Barlow's SC history he is on the decline, the stats speak for themselves.

    From 2014>2015 he lost a huge 18 points in supercoach scoring per game.

    ball swing · 04/04/2016 at 22:33

    well if you listen to freo commentators/media they are saying Barlow NEEDS to go back to the WAFL as he just is not deserving of a spot in the team.

      Dean · 04/04/2016 at 23:15

      Once they get their other players he could be spending more time in the guts which will more than likely make him a F6 worst case scenario. However if Lyon drops him, which wouldn't surprise me then that's a issue, as it can happen several times throughout the season especially regarding Lyon's.

Alex · 04/04/2016 at 20:35

Papley and Keays/Petracca whoevers named plus 101k in the warchest or Papley and Hall 170k warchest (but I lose Barlow)

Trav · 04/04/2016 at 20:44

I have Barlow and Rocky going to take a gamble on Papley into the fwds to get the cash generation and turn Rocky into Parker freeing up more cash for an instant rookie upgrade elsewhere next week

Archie · 04/04/2016 at 20:45

As an owner of Rockliff, I was at the game on Saturday afternoon in the beautiful Brisbane. Watched those bright green boots that you can't miss a mile away of Rockliff's running around. Spent about 40% of time at full forward resting, 35% on the bench (without counting the entirety of the fourth quarter) and 25% in the guts where he didn't look like getting contested ball and couldn't lay a tackle if his life depended on it.

I've also got the issue of Sidebottom and Robinson (and not to mention Barlow) so I can't have 2x premiums sitting on my midfield bench. Will trade. Thinking about a bit of a shark move to Zorko instead of the standard Rocky –> Parker trade. Thoughts community? Zorko looked like the only lion out there with the ability to win and use the pill.

Cheers community

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 21:09

    Interesting, sounds like he's nowhere near 100%.

    Begs the question of why he even played.

    Midzed · 04/04/2016 at 22:07

    Zorko is good but will definitely get tagged if he keeps it up, look at Rich.

      lachi · 04/04/2016 at 22:14

      rich is terrible

        BigHaydos · 05/04/2016 at 15:36

        thats what the whole "look at rich" reference as about….

Gold Rush · 04/04/2016 at 20:51

Rockcliff is playing injured (The medicos and coach should know better, they are all letting themselves down). Barlow should be renamed 'DEB' – that false mash spud garbage!

    Kang Van DerBang · 04/04/2016 at 21:17

    I quite like DEB. It's convenient when I can be stuffed peeling potatoes.

flex350 · 04/04/2016 at 20:54

I have barlow and Robbo, I want one out for Papley. Any help is appreciated.

    Gold Rush · 04/04/2016 at 21:05

    you want Paps for the cash generation, pick the player that is going to lose more and trade him is what I would do. Nice and simple.

      flex350 · 04/04/2016 at 21:44

      Very true. I went Robbo as a POD and for his midfield time at the start of the season. That went south fast. Barlow everyone has. I would have thought at the start of the season Barlow had more upside than Robbo, but not too sure now. Dont know if either are keepers anymore. However very early.

        sharmanism · 05/04/2016 at 00:05

        I've got Robbo, Rocky and Barlow. I'm holding Robbo but the other two are gone.

        Robbo looked impressive before the calf injury – Barlow and Rocky haven't looked anything like impressive.

Steeeve · 04/04/2016 at 21:00

How best to get Papley in?
a) Replace Ruggles via DPP (lose my loophole though)
b) Downgrade Barlow
c) Replace Gresham via DPP (lose his cash gen but he's underperforming)

    kapow74 · 05/04/2016 at 03:19

    I have same consideration.

    Have decided to downgrade Barlow to Papley; on basis that Barlow may not return full time to midfield.

    With cash generated from that trade have upgraded Gresham to Libba. Worried for Gresham's job security.

      Steeeve · 05/04/2016 at 14:04

      Barlow out looking like the best option if I want to keep ruggles as loophole.
      Will wait and see if Rocky plays since I can UAE him for the loophole if he's out. He stays in my side, surely he'll come good.

Bobby Singh · 04/04/2016 at 21:02

I've got some trading problems. I have a few trades in mind including:
• Bartel to JJ.
• Rocky upgrade/downgrade.
• Gresham to Parish/Kennedy.

Which two do you think are the most efficient? Who would be an upgrade and downgrade target for Rockliff? Also, should I go Parish or Kennedy if I was to complete that trade?

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 21:13

    Pretty obvious who is a better trade out of Parish and Kennedy.

    One has been in the AFL system longer, is more mature, has a higher average and is cheaper.

      Bobby Singh · 04/04/2016 at 21:16

      Good point.

    Jock Disciple Si · 04/04/2016 at 22:24

    Reckon you have to swap in Ben Kennedy if you can. He will make some cash for you and Gresham will probably not make much.

Benjamima Puddleduck · 04/04/2016 at 21:15

Massive Dilemma community!

I would really like to get Libba in my team, but i dont have anyone i am too interested in trading to get him.

A.Gaff, T.Kickey or J.Lonegan
are my best options to trade.

Ave 2250 so far with a spud Captain the week just gone, Nice work NicNat

Can do Gaff and Hickey on a solo trade or Lonegan is a double trade with my bench Ruckman

Brain is overloaded, maybe i just hold and take it on the chin like a man that a didnt take Libba.

    Derek · 04/04/2016 at 22:08

    too sideways

    Jambo · 05/04/2016 at 15:16

    I wouldn't trade anyone, mate. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 21:16

I'm finding it very interesting that a higher percentage of voters are saying to trade only Barlow who is fit, and not an injury riddled Rocky.

    Holty · 04/04/2016 at 22:47

    its a tough one. But im with the crowd. I still think Rocky can punch out massive scores but Barlow is stuck in the forward line where he cant apply his trade. He is not a forward, he is a midfielder and i wish Ross would put him back there but cant see it happening.

      Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 22:55

      Since making the above comment I've concluded that Barlow is not even worth holding, even if he goes back to his 2015 type of scoring.

      I'm going to bench rocky for a week if he's not named, and see how he goes after.

      Rocky's last 6 scores of 2015………..

      135, 115, 145, 122, 146, 152.

        Bowski · 04/04/2016 at 23:41

        Exactly. Once he's fit he will start banging out the big scores. Hold – it's only round 2!!

    Jimi · 04/04/2016 at 22:54

    Well that's it in a nutshell. Barlow is fit, isn't being played in the middle and therefore isn't scoring. At least with Rocky there is an upside.

    DadSmasher · 04/04/2016 at 23:01

    Barlow is a crap kick and Freos new attacking game plan requires precision kicking. Barlow wont be part of the Midfield unless everyone else is injured or suspended or he suddenly becomes a good kick.
    Rockliff has a calf 'niggle', history shows that calf niggles can be career threatening if they're not allowed to heal properly which takes time. I'm trading Rocky and if I had Barlow I'd be dumping him as well.

      SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 23:21

      You did well to not get seduced by the Barlow honey trap that sucked most of us in over the NAB.

      Is Rocky your only trade this week or are you making a rookie correction perhaps?

Tulendeena · 04/04/2016 at 21:36

While my head is telling me trading Suckling to JJ is a waste of a trade, my guts telling me to do it

Is JJ just this years Bufontempelli, or a genuine player?

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 21:56

    Bont started at 422k and ended at 516k last year………he was also a DPP mid/fwd. Not a bad pick.

    Chill · 05/04/2016 at 09:16

    I'm going to hold Suckling for now. But I really do want to do the same.

Stoney · 04/04/2016 at 22:02

What do you think about down trading rocky to a rookie? Cash in for a couple of weeks then snap up rocky at a lower price…
Playing for finals not total points

Ben · 04/04/2016 at 22:04

Rockliff is going to become Libba
Gresham (via Kerridge via Tippa) will become Johanneson.

Gives me libba and JJ and opens up a DEF-FWD and a MID-FWD DPP link, which I don't have. Gives me all of the cash cow rookies to moo away also.

Laird, JJ, Weiters, Dea, Adams, Lonergan (Brown, Ruggles)
Gaz, Fyfe, Danger, Libba, Shiel, Cripps, BCrouch, Kerridge (Mills, Hewitt, Davis)
Goldy, Nicnat
Wingard, Buddy, Wells, Hall, Benken, Papley (Tippa, McGovern)

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 22:21

    I like it and you eliminate the future risk of rocky.

    Team looks solid enough to not touch for a while and just fatten those cows.

    Sucks you have ruggles, and I would've gone menadue over mcgovern but oh well.

      Ben · 04/04/2016 at 22:32

      All good…. Ruggles is awesome as it gives me a great loophole option

      I could trade Ruggles to JJ instead of Gresham, but if I decide to trade Gresham it opens up DPP links everywhere. I'd rather a loophole option, DPP links and 40k cash over a rookie who might make $10,000 a week.

        Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 22:49

        Yeah gresham looks useless, glad I didn't get him.

          HOLLA · 05/04/2016 at 09:21

          Its rnd 2. From memory touk miller had a similar start last year. Give him time.

Scooter · 04/04/2016 at 22:04

Sammy mitchell or luke parker for tom rockliff ?

    Chill · 05/04/2016 at 09:15

    Sam Mitchell's last 7 games – disposals: 34, 35, 33, 35, 34, 36, 27

Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 22:14

If you want rocky in your team then hold him.

Scans have been done and it's not a bad calf injury, just a strain.

The bone bruising in his forearm is probably more of a long term problem.

Ale x · 04/04/2016 at 22:19

is parish a must have

    Ben · 04/04/2016 at 22:33

    If u wanna make a quick $300k+, he probably is.
    If you don't care about money and upgrading, don't worry

      Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 22:48

      Big call that he'll make a quick 300k.

      Guaranteed about 150k, plus you'll use a trade bringing him in, and then another out when you upgrade him.

      He will have to consistently perform at a high level against various opponents, and not get any injuries, to make 250k+

        Ben · 04/04/2016 at 23:12

        Cool…. So don't get him then. 🙂

          Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 23:19

          It's one of those really tough calls because it's only been two rounds, young midfielders will often tire a bit earlier too getting knocked around by bigger bodies.

          I wouldn't call him a must have that's for sure, but he could be a goodstepping stone.

          Would've been great to start with him but that in itself was also a risky move at his price.

Jock Disciple Si · 04/04/2016 at 22:23

Now I am new having lost my Supercoach virginity round one this year.
I am in exactly the position of owning Rockliff and Barlow and I thought I had come up with a great strategy.
After round 2 I had six of the top 10 people who were on negatives for their breakevens. Before the round 3 change of prices comes in I have traded in Barlow and Rockliff for Marcus Adams and Ben Kennedy.
My bank has blown out to 777K and my team should significantly increase in value after round 3.
Why wouldn't I trade out two players who are going to lose significant money for players who are going to gain then trade up in later weeks?
I am a little worried about this week's score but when I look at the team now I think it is pretty solid.

DEF: Laird, Shaw, M.Adams, Weitering,B.Smith, M.Dea (Tip and Regales)
MID: R.Gary (captain 1 because they are playing Essendon) Libba, B.Kennedy, Fyfe, Pendlebury, B.Crouch, C.Mills, Danger (captain 2) (C.Petracca, Davis, Gresham) using the loophole 🙂
Ruck: Nat, Gawn, Grimley
Fwd: Hall, Wells, Papley, Stringer, Kerridge, Menadue (Brown, McCarthy)

    Jock Disciple Si · 04/04/2016 at 22:28

    Excuse the poor spelling. Ruggles, not regales, Gray not Gary.
    Fwd: M.Brown

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 22:38

    I don't mind those trades because if you don't get kennedy and adams you're basically stuffed financially in the long run.

    It will suck if rockliff comes back in a week or two and starts getting 130+'s and gets in some good form, but that's the price you'll pay.

    At stage it would be highly risky to trade him in again.

    Just remember you have dea, weitering, papley, menadue and mills all on field who could go sub 50 scores at some point. You could lose games week to week.

    Brad Crouch, Adams and Stringer could see some lower scores too.

    I think you'll do ok though as most of those names I mentioned are capable of decent scores too.

      Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 22:39

      At that stage*

    Gold Rush · 04/04/2016 at 23:01

    You will lose your SC virginity more than once in this caper son – each time you rip yourself a new one – something will happen to plug ya again..

Michael · 04/04/2016 at 22:27

guys, i'm currently ranked around 50k….am i already out of the race for no.1?

    Ben · 04/04/2016 at 22:35

    You'd have to be super lucky from here, but nothing is impossible. Picking the right onfield rookies and captains can make all the difference.
    It's a long season….. And you've got about a 1 in 300,000 chance

    ball swing · 04/04/2016 at 22:40

    NO WAY you are out of it… you may not win but you can easily get in the top 1000.

    You dont realise how many drop out of the top 1000 in the last round alone, yet alone the last 5 rounds.

    The last 5 rounds is where you can make MASSIVE overall rank gains AND win your leagues aswell.

    Those going for overall burn trades like nothing else.

    Harden up son… its only roound 3 fa' fukcs sake 🙂

    Derek · 04/04/2016 at 22:46

    Of course not. Happens every year that some people fly out of the gates because they got a bit lucky the first few rounds.

    Usually these managers get excited and in an effort to hold their rank they burn trades to buy the "hot" players. Most fade away.

    Stick to your plan, have a few POD and save your trades

    I was about 20.000th after 5 rounds last year, still finished 76th

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 23:23

    50k rank? You're done. May as well start planning for supercoach 2017.

    Gold Rush · 05/04/2016 at 00:34

    Only if you think you are and you panic, It's only early days – CHILL.

    Matt · 05/04/2016 at 14:19

    I moved up from 42,000th to 1,000th this round. Early round rankings will change rapidly.
    A more accurate measure of if you're still in the race is looking at your team, and how many changes you feel are necessary. If you dont have Adams, B Kennedy, Wells, etc. I'd say you have a lot to catch up on.

REN · 04/04/2016 at 22:29

Laird or Johannisen?

Johanissen seems the obvious pick but he could be caught out this week against the hawks and show hes not as good in a losing side? (assuming doggies lose (hopefully not))

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 22:43

    Tough choice but I'm jumping aboard the JJ train. I already have Laird though too.

      SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 23:28

      Same here SS. There is no hotter property than JJ right now and I want a slice of that action too.

Holty · 04/04/2016 at 22:36

Ok community. The Barlow choice. People are saying hold and fold and blah blah blah.
Lets look at the facts.
2013 and 2014 he averaged 110. Why? Because he played in the midfield.
2015 he was average. Why? Because he played forward most of the year.
2016 he has started forward and has looked lost again. He simply cannot play forward and you would think Ross would have learnt from last year.
So i think the question we all need to ask ourselves is:
Will he be playing in the midfield again? If the answer is yes, keep him.
I think the answer is no though so he must go for me. Ross must not rate Barlow as he was one of their best midfielders 2 years ago but refuses to play him much there. Bloody D Pearce plays more midfield time then Barlow now and thats saying something.

    CarlaShirly · 04/04/2016 at 22:56

    No idea why my msg did not send?

    CarlaShirly · 04/04/2016 at 23:04

    Fremantle have not picked up a genuine forward for far too long now and Ross looks to Barlow to fill that void.

    I agree with you though Barlow even 60% mid time would get x2 80+ scores and not many would see alarm bells. Just looks like his coach won't give him is best suited position.

Pete · 04/04/2016 at 22:41

Can we reverse changes this year?
Can't seem to find the button, can anyone fill me in?

    Pete · 04/04/2016 at 22:48

    Just figured it out:)

    CarlaShirley · 04/04/2016 at 22:57

    Team field
    Bottom right corner press or click the little icon and reverse trades will show

Alex · 04/04/2016 at 22:50

Papley and Parish
Papley and Petracca/Keays (whichever is named)
Papley and (Barlow down to) A.Hall

    Southern S · 04/04/2016 at 22:58

    You don't trade mid season for rookies who are just being named for their first game, that's a sure way to have donuts which means season over.

    Parish could work out ok, but I'd go for Hall as he is an emerging top midfielder with dual position status.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2016 at 22:56

So after going through various scenarios here's the plan.

After copping a savage pasting this week decided i have had enough of rocky. Traded him in twice last year but just think he picks up a few too many injuries and just cant be trusted. Sure can go big but when he misses games my trade in should earn more points overall.

So trading rocky to JJ via DPP with longeran
Next barlow gets it in the neck. Have watched him and ross lyin fooled us all. He is not playing mids but fwd and is slow found wanting on more than one occassion. So cant see him being a premo fwd took a punt didn't pay off so time to correct.
Going barlow to parker via DPP with kennedy. I believe parker will be premoish.

Then the next week once price rises have taken place going trade mccarthy to hartley creating a DPP with AMT swung into the fwd line.
this move if they go up as expected will allow me to go longeran to either hannas, ward or Gray (whomis my pref)

So after 4 trades team should look like:

Boyd, laird, JJ, weitering, dea, adams. (Hartley, ruggles)
Danger, priddus, ablett, gray, sheil, parker, duncan, b crouch. (Gresham, davis, dunkley)
Gawn, nic nat (wyatt)
Wingard, hall, wells, kennedy, kerridge, menadue. (Papley, AMT)

Yeah happy with the new look team.

Mendaue and dea next upgrade targets to dusty and shaw. Once petrecca and keays are on the bubble.

    Gold Rush · 04/04/2016 at 23:02

    Dogs playing Hawks this week – be cautious!

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/04/2016 at 23:07

      Yeah imagine how fast that game is gonna be if both teams play their way! Be like 20/20 footy!
      Hawks don't lock down they just back their guys to beat anyone else. A shootout under the roof! 🙂

        Gold Rush · 05/04/2016 at 00:32

        Look what the Hawks did to the WC guns – I've brought in Libba this week mind you – JJ in the following week along with Fyfe.

    SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 23:32

    Looks like we will have the identical trades this week Trigger. So if it all goes pear shaped at least we will have some company when we cry into our corn flakes. 🙂

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/04/2016 at 08:35

      Hey addict, well if we have the same trade I am either doing something rights or we are both heading up that creek! Thought about it and this is the best move for my team. Only time will tell I guess.

Dee · 04/04/2016 at 23:02

when's the bloody podcast?

    SCaddict · 04/04/2016 at 23:34

    Probably tomorrow. JR Brumby FC actually had a pretty good round so I'm sure he will want to tell us about it, especially after bouncing back from the mare he suffered in the opening round.

Patrick Dangerfield · 04/04/2016 at 23:22

Need to get in Libba and Papley or Kennedy
Who am I trading out out of Barlow rocky de goey or anyone else.

My side is
Laird Houli Bartel Dea Hartley Adams (brown tippa)
Fyfe danger Ablett sheiks rocky Cripps crouch mills( Gresham, Davis Hewett)
Goldy natinui
Barlow, hall de goey wells Menadue kerridge(McGovern, McCarthy)

    Dee · 04/04/2016 at 23:52

    Rockliff – Libba and Barlow – Parley….. plus $644K in the kitty, corrective trades! That's my trades for the week I reckon…..

    GoldRush · 05/04/2016 at 06:41

    Not talking to you SPUD, made you Captain and you tore me a new one. @rsehole.

Daniel · 04/04/2016 at 23:39

If K.Lambert scores around the 100 mark again surely worth a look at? Tempted to Downgrade Barlow to K. Lambert and then use the extra $$$ to upgrade DeGoey to D.Martin. Thoughts? (Current forward line is Hall, Barlow, DeGoey, B.Kennedy, D.Wells, Kerridge) with 360k in the bank

    Southern S · 05/04/2016 at 00:08

    Not bad.

    Valasarptors · 05/04/2016 at 09:47

    Was thinking of doing the same thing mate…been holding out for this week to look at lambo. Looks like a beast this year, massive improvement from last year. Looks the goods but this week is the tester for me.

james · 04/04/2016 at 23:48

what trade is better

1. libba and R.Gray / S.mitchell

2. zaharakis and T.mitchell / parker

    Dee · 04/04/2016 at 23:53

    Libba and Gray

sharmanism · 05/04/2016 at 00:02

Interesting insight Higgo but I'm trading both for players I probably should have had in my team in the first place Libba and JJ coming in.

Also happy with trading Steele out for BenKen last week.

I feel my side is now much more balanced, I've got a nice war chest and I'm reasonably happy with the rest of my team for now and have some gettable trade targets in coming weeks and a great selection of rookies fattening up nicely.

    derek · 05/04/2016 at 09:30

    you are trading out two premiums, for two mid-pricers? the idea of the game is to get more premiums, not less.

      sharmanism · 05/04/2016 at 09:52

      Thanks Derek and yes I agree the idea is to get more premiums – taking a long view with my team though I think this is the best way for me to end up with more.

      I stuffed up in my initial selections – should have had Libba and JJ in – it looks like they are really going to rise price wise and by downgrading to them I free up a lot more cash for upgrades in coming weeks. I'm eyeing off Gray/Ablett/Parker into midfield and looking at Josh Gibson into backline and Dusty into Forward line.

      Current team is with $425K in the bank is:

      D: Laird, Macmillan, Birchall, JJ, Lonergan, Weitering – bench Dea, McDonald-Tipungwi

      M: Fyfe, Danger, Shiel, Hall, Hunter, Libba, B Crouch, Hewett – bench Robinson, Oliver, Davis

      R: Goldy, Gawn – bench Wyatt

      F: Wells, BenKen, Menadue, Kerridge, Adams, Papley – bench McGovern, Brown

      Forwards looking a bit skinny but once Robbo is back on the ground will be able to bolster forward line through DPPs (Hall and Robbo) as I trade more premiums into the midfield.

Cozza · 05/04/2016 at 00:06

Love the article Higgo – I've been tossing that around over the past couple of days. Think you've swayed me to keeping Rocky and Barlow. However, if Barlow gets dropped (which I think is a distinct possibility), it will be Barlow > Papley.

Papley is the only rookie I don't have. Problem is, there are not really any rookies to trade out for him! Gresham is the obvious one, but he'll find his feet over the next few weeks as well and I'm sure he'll generate good cash over time (unless he's dropped). Will wait and see what happens on Thursday night, but that it possibly the only trade I'll do if no surprises sprung on Thursday.

    GoldRush · 05/04/2016 at 06:44

    Gresham will be ginding his feet in the VFL, can loophole him.

      derek · 05/04/2016 at 09:28

      If gresham is dropped, it is an easy choice. But i'm going to stay with gresham if named, he will be a slow cash generator, but not worth wasting a trade on

Cozza · 05/04/2016 at 00:11

SCAddict – loving the rank of The True Believers! Top 30 leagues. Just shows what happens when you have faith in the great man 🙂

    hedski · 05/04/2016 at 00:47

    Yeah 29th. Hey SC imagine my surprise when I looked up my first matchup this week……?
    "GARY? GARY? are you ok Gary?"
    No Gary in my opponent's side.
    Is sacrilege. . Just bloody wrong. Disband the league bugger the ranking.

      hedski · 05/04/2016 at 00:55

      There is a judas ha ha

        SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 01:08

        I'm very disappointed that 1 of the 18 teams doesn't have Gazza as I clearly stated was a starting requirement for that particular league. Unfortunately it was an honour system as there was no way to screen the entrants.

        There's always one I suppose but it's ultimately his or her loss not to have the bald genius in their side. So hopefully they wise up and bring him in shortly! 🙂

          derek · 05/04/2016 at 09:31

          i think you need to name and shame this person!

          TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/04/2016 at 09:39

          Can replace them if u like as bald jeebus firmly entrenched in my team. 🙂

          Nifty · 05/04/2016 at 14:40

          Hi Addict, can they be replaced as they didn't enter with Gaz, like we all did…

          PS: I did a little better this week..

            SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 14:50

            I don't think anyone can be replaced once the leagues are finalised.

            Can't really complain to the organisers and get someone booted just because they didn't select a certain player so it is what it is.

              Nifty · 05/04/2016 at 18:54

              Cheers Champ..

    SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 01:11

    Yes the league is off to a brilliant start so well done to all involved. Hopefully the Little Master can turn it on against the Blues at Metricon this weekend and lift that ranking even higher.

      hedski · 05/04/2016 at 01:53

      Ah well 18th for them.
      Curnow to trail Gaz? And will that matter?

        SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 10:16

        Gaz has been conquering the tag long before he became a Supercoach deity. If only Dan Rich could take a leaf out of his book.

        It only means more CPs for Gazza and he'll eat Curnow for breakfast I reckon.

      Average Joe · 05/04/2016 at 12:58

      First off, Congrats on the league rank. Just wanted to know what your average score is? My league is ranked 53rd and have an average score of 2189, so it would be interesting to see how big of a gap there is

        hedski · 05/04/2016 at 13:43

        2195 joe not much in it. 100 points maybe all up

        SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 14:48

        My highest ranked league called 'Jock Forum League' created by another community member here is ranked 17th and it has an average of 2199.

        But it's very early days obviously..

    dognino · 05/04/2016 at 17:07

    I was stoked to top the league last week, only to crash back down to second last rd2, lol

Big Bob Francis · 05/04/2016 at 01:42

That is a great flow chart. What turned me off Barlow and Rocky is their history of injuries. Nearly went with Barlow but then couldn't afford him and he was subsequently squeezed out. It's paid off it seems. However I've had other under performers. I've traded once last week but now think from a team value point of view before the price fluctuations come into effect that if your not quite content with a couple of players arsehole em and get in those ones that you want. My spud of the week awards went to Jarred Polec – 8, Daniel Rich not much better. Thinking its time to trade him out & bring in Ablett. Not sure why I went with Polec. Ablett will top up a heavy midfield with Fyfe, Dangerfield, Priddis, Gray, Brad Crouch, Mills and Kerridge – Dunkley Davis and Keays on the bench. Had Rich in the backline, so would be looking to trade him out for say a Hartley from Essendon. Hartley and Tippa would warm a bench to Tom McDonald (who also spudded it up as he was half asleep on Sat and is on notice), Laird, Docherty, Johannsen, Weitering & Adams. The rookies are flying the flag atm. Didn't want to trade last week but then brought JJ in for McGovern. Although McGovern got around 80 his opponent Gibson went to town. JJ was stellar banking a 130. My forwards are light on but I'm thinking to leave this week pending the Wingard outcome. How is he faring atm? Will he get up for Fri night? Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Menadue I'm happy with. DeGoey will go to Debench after his start and join young McGovern from the crows – who would be keen to get in on their forward line now. They share it round and I think the young Mitch McGovern presents well when he gets some tog time. Rucks are serviceable in Blicavs and Gawn. So is it the arse to Polec and Rich for Ablett and Hartley, or is Libba a better option??

    GoldRush · 05/04/2016 at 06:58

    Winged is ok and will be playing according to Port.

    william gates · 05/04/2016 at 09:01

    you really need both libba and ablett. I did a similar thing last week 5 mins b4 start traded fyfe 4 parker .Seems like a dud trade but I pocketed 150 enabling me to get wells this week and Collins 4 paps.So am I better off..losses Fyfe Collins and grsham or parker paps and wells time will tell

      Bib Bob Francis · 06/04/2016 at 00:29

      May look to Libba then. Still shouldn't a had Jared Polec

Shinboner · 05/04/2016 at 01:58

I'm goin to put Rocklif on my bench and have a bit of faith in Barlow. Trading 2 premo's out now is madness! If you've got rookies that can do the job play them on the field instead. Rocklif had an ordinary start last year and came back in great form.

    Leeds17 · 05/04/2016 at 05:53

    Agree on Rocky but the idea of losing 50k on Barlow is not pleasant makes him hard to sideways trade

      MaximuS · 05/04/2016 at 11:47

      Keepers will loose and gain money all season… You're aim now is to have right rookies for price increases…

kapow74 · 05/04/2016 at 03:12

Rockliff is a proven supercoach beast. Whilst durability is a concern, I'm backing him to be banging out 120+ scores when he's fit and healthy. Prepared to sit him on the pine for 1-2 weeks whilst his calf heals.

Barlow is making me emotional. The first time he's made my supercoach team and even then I was only half convinced. Hall and Merrett were my other considerations. I'm extremely concerned Ross will persist with his new FWD role. And I need to draft in Papley to my squad. Therefore Barlow OUT!

    GoldRush · 05/04/2016 at 08:49

    When he is fit and healthy! PROBLEM IS THEY KEEP RUSHING HIM BACK EARLY and then he injures himself again. The club have managed him very poorly from what I can see.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/04/2016 at 09:41

    Calf should b 3-4 weeks to heal properly.

Jono · 05/04/2016 at 08:06

Is Papley a must have in my team? Currently have Hall 124, Kennedy 105, Wells 121, Kerridge 106, Greene 120 and Barlow 60. Not keen on the idea of trading Barlow down so is Papley a must?

    Dee · 05/04/2016 at 08:57

    I'm thinking of doing the same…. Barlow OUT Popeye IN, also thinking of downgrading Rocky to Libba….

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 05/04/2016 at 09:48

    If u r not keen on trading Barlow which I think would b crazy to trade to a first year rook why not just trade one of your bench spots? They r probably both worth more than paps. He will make u some quick cash but all depends on your priorities and if need to trade anyone else?

Alex · 05/04/2016 at 09:20

Need a bit of help community: Papley, Parish, Hall, JJ. Pick two priorities.

And who to get rid of: McCaffer,Barlow,Rockliff,Gresham. Pick two priorities.

Cheers community

    hedski · 05/04/2016 at 09:28

    McCaffer Barlow
    Hall Papley

    tophawk · 05/04/2016 at 09:44

    Macaffer OUT – Papley IN
    Barlow- OUT- Hall IN

    You can target JJ albeit at a higher price. Put Rocky on the bench and use as a loophole for the week. Brisbane play last. Rocky should be back following week. Parish is a good rookie but expensive. I guess you can't own all the rookies.

    Cheers

      Alex · 05/04/2016 at 10:58

      Cheers boys

mark · 05/04/2016 at 09:33

Hello community, I am stuck with one real dilemma.
Rockliff to parker or Robbie gray?

I just can't split these two but am thinking Parker siply due to price. I cannot afford anyone over 600k

Please help!

    derek · 05/04/2016 at 09:51

    i rate R Gray in my top 10 midfielders now (just replaced Sloane). Parker would be lucky to be top 20, but his price is very nice

      Jess_coach · 05/04/2016 at 15:42

      Either is a good option. I vote parker. He's cheaper and, although its a big call, i think he will score higher. Parker will be back to $600,000 soon, and an even better average than his 109 in 2014. Expect a 115+ average IMO

        Steeeve · 05/04/2016 at 16:55

        That's what I hoped last year…

King of harts · 05/04/2016 at 09:47

Dilemma is I need libba and want jj
Options
rockliff down to libba (pretty much locked in for me at this stage
Then I either ditch Barlow for jj amd pocket a total of $289k or I upgrade one of Mckenzie and sheridan for him and keep Barlow and around $100k

    Kev · 05/04/2016 at 10:35

    I'm monitoring jj for another week. Everyone was moaning about the inconsistent defensive options 2 weeks ago but the eyes are lighting up when a midpricer starts pumping out some huge scores. If he can perform against the hawks it'll go a long way to calm my doubts.

    Barlow and jj will more or less line up in price after this week. If Barlow performs you're better off ditching a midpricer

      King of harts · 05/04/2016 at 12:59

      Agreed
      Initially Barlow was a gone but I've calmed down my rage trading appetite (stupid afl fantasy almost encourages it)
      Rockliff to libba still seems like it will happen tho, gotta have him and rocky ks my worst performing, injury clouded mid so bye bye at this stage

Fevolution · 05/04/2016 at 10:20

What do I do with Jordan De Goey, Barlow, Rockliff??
My side is:
Laird, Houli, Bartel, Dea, Hartley, Adams ( brown, tippa)
Fyfe danger, Ablett, Rockliff, Sheil, Cripps Crouch, mills (Gresham, Hewett, Davis)
Goldstien, Natinui
Barlow, Hall, de Goey, wells, McCarthy, kerridge (Menadue, McGovern)

I don't have liberatore, Papley or Kennedy

Any input is much appreciated

    Kev · 05/04/2016 at 10:27

    I'd cut degoey, your midprice gamble didn't pay off. Jump to bk. Keep Rocky/Barlow unless injury

    Iamme · 05/04/2016 at 10:32

    Imo you got to get Libba in as a priority, De Goey would be my first choice as Barlow is a proven Premo and should come good, but I'd wait to see how long rocky will be out for and then make a decision.

    Saundo · 05/04/2016 at 17:40

    Keep de gooey he'll be ok, trade rocky to wines and upgrade Barlow to Martin or Zorko ?

Iamme · 05/04/2016 at 10:21

I would appreciate your opinion community I have a dilemma, should I trade Barlow (B/E 176) and Rich (B/E 115) or Seedsman and Petracca for Papley and Marcus Adams?

thanks

    SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 10:35

    Keep Petracca as he'll play soon enough especially after the Demons debacle on the weekend.

    Adams and Papley are must haves so if you have no other bench donuts besides Petracca then Barlow needs to go to get Paps in I'd say. It's a toss up between Rich and Seedsman as to who else makes way for Adams.

    I'm not much of a fan of Rich as he's never worked out when I've had him in the past. One of those guys that looks better on paper but always seems to frustrate and disappoint his owners. But I also think Seedsman is bit of a dead end too.

    However given Rich is under a soft tissue injury cloud and has the much higher BE I would probably cull him to get Adams in.

Bells E Bubb · 05/04/2016 at 10:28

For all those who blasphemed and didn't get Gary Ablett in, Barlow to Papley and Rocky to Gary is surely a done deal.

Pinidu · 05/04/2016 at 10:35

Community, in order to get Ben Kennedy I must do one of the following trades options:

1) Mills –> Kennedy
Rockliff –> Parker

2) McCarthy –> Kennedy
Rockliff –> Cripps

3) McCarthy –> Kennedy
Barlow –> Merrett

    Pinidu · 05/04/2016 at 10:38

    Sorry, scratch option II, I don't have enough coin.

    Iamme · 05/04/2016 at 10:57

    Option1 if rocky will be out more than 2 weeks
    otherwise 3 is the way to go imo.

Mark · 05/04/2016 at 10:39

Can anyone tell me what role Jordan De Goey is playing and whether he has the possibility to score well

    SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 10:49

    I have De Goey too and he's definitely been a disappointment in the first two rounds. However he should still make cash just slower and less than we were hoping.

    The Pies draw is quite favourable now with the Saints, Dees and Dons up next so if he can't score well over that patch I'll concede defeat and move him on as a failed midpricer.

JamiesNinjas13 · 05/04/2016 at 10:46

I'm amazed to see that currently the most favored option is to trade both barlow and rockliff out and the least favoured is holding both.
Even with Higgo's insightful article on trading out premiums won't change the minds of the community.
This is the end questions that every needs to revert back to when trying to stay calm: Will Barlow and Rockliff be in your side at the end of the season? Or will they be in the top 10 mids/top 8 fwds at the end of the season? They most definitely will be!

    Steeeve · 05/04/2016 at 14:36

    Rocky should be, for average. For overall score? Doubt it. I'm holding anyway.
    For Barlow top 10 forwards is looking like a stretch unless he pulls his finger out. Not sure if I should hold him or not when I could beat the price change with a JJ type.

Swans2012 · 05/04/2016 at 11:07

So after chopping and changing, trading Barlow/rocky/rich 100 times…..I'm holding, just don't see the value in trading them out….they are both premos (or have the potential to be) and I'm confident they will both come good….I'm putting a 400k cut off on Barlow, if he gets below that he's gone, but surely we give him the benefit of the doubt for another week and see how he performs when freo's game comes together which I am sure it will… I am bringing paps in for my non playing loopholer though, I doubt he'll continue banging 80 plus scores, but for a quick 150k in the next couple of weeks he's a no brainer.
one other thing, I think some of the scores so far this year have been skewed by blowouts, don't expect all the swan/doggie players for example to keep scoring at the rate they have, there simply won't be enough points to go around in the tighter contests….

    Derek · 05/04/2016 at 13:00

    I'm thinking same. Holding

      derek · 05/04/2016 at 13:14

      i'm also tempted to trade Keays to paps for some quick cash. but if keays is selected this week after his 39 touches in the seconds last week, i'll hold

Youngy · 05/04/2016 at 11:33

If we don't have Papey do we need to trade him in?

Maybe gresham to Papey?

    Average Joe · 05/04/2016 at 13:14

    SC gold has Gresh maxing out at 200k. Papley is predicted to peak at 540k. Obviously it is likely that papley can't keep his scores up, but he will make tons more than gresh in the short term. If papley gets to 300k, I would say it is worth a trade, and if he keeps getting tons, he will get to 300k by round 5. Get him in

      derek · 05/04/2016 at 13:49

      don't even look at those SC Gold numbers. Next week the round 1 scores don't count anymore and the week after round 2 scores don't count. If greasham knocks out a couple of big scores the calculations will be reversed.

      If paps doesn't score big this week, he will max very early and start to fall just as quick as he rose, so anyone with him will need to be ready to bail out week 4 or 5 or risk losing all the cash increase. the trick then is who to downgrade to?

Big G · 05/04/2016 at 11:42

Straight swap Rocky for Parker or downgrade Rocky to Libba and upgrade a expensive rookie to Zaharakis. Will Zaharakis be a top 10/15 midfielder by the end of the year?

james · 05/04/2016 at 11:43

got a bit of a dilemma about who to trade in Smitch or Rgray

i saw that mitchell has had 32+ possies in his last 7 games and he is scoring well, do you thunk he can keep his scoring output up or will he attract attention

Gray has avg. 110 last two years and off to a good start this year he is playing more forward kicking goals and getting lots of ball against essendon this week could he go big

thoughts community who do i get

Alex · 05/04/2016 at 11:49

Would love some opinions on who to trade this week
My team is as follows:
D: Shaw, Gibson, Laird, Rich, Weitering, Adams, Dea, Brown
M: Danger, Ablett, Shiel, Rocky, Parker, Libba, B.Crouch, Mills, Gresham, Dunkley, Davis
R: Mumford, Gawn, Loersch
F: Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Menadue, Kerridge, McCarthy, Tipungwuti

I have Rockliff, Barlow and Rich that I'm thinking of trading
At the moment I've traded Gresham out for Tom Papley and moved Menadue up to my midfield to cover Rockliff for the one week he will miss. Hopefully that's it. At the moment I'm thinking I should hold Rich and Barlow rather than panic trading but I'd love to get Johanissen in for Rich.

Any thoughts community?

    Swans2012 · 05/04/2016 at 12:26

    I've got the three you just mentioned, I'm holding I think, gresh to pap makes sense. Rich isn't going to bleed too much cash (hopefully) so I think it's a wait and see….

      Joel · 05/04/2016 at 12:49

      I also have those three and not jj. Also thinking of doing the same trade Gresham to paps putting menadue in mids to cover rocky. Then reasses next week see how jj goes against the Hawks.

Holty · 05/04/2016 at 12:32

I'm seriously considering doing a straight swap. Barlow to Papley. The way things are going, Papley will average more if Barlow is left in the forward line. I will them replace Steele with a Premium. Not sure who yet but my rookie mids look the weakest so might strengthen that midfield to put one of those rookies on the bench.

FistingAction · 05/04/2016 at 12:40

I forced myself to stick tight after round 1 but round 2 is the time to pull some rabbits out of my lovely hat.

Trading this week Barlow –> JJ (Via throwing Mcdonald tptptpflolotlo into the forward line)
Rockie —-> Ablett ( started the season with 90k in the kit for this specific scenario where a midprice or fallen prem was not performing)

Hopefully this will set me up well and keep me in the top 1000 after dropping from 13th to 800 this week.

    william gates · 05/04/2016 at 14:02

    big mistake fisty definitely keep both Even if they spud and you drop another 1000 spots you need rookies now of course if all your rookies are good different story.see if you have at least 13 money making rookies not rooky spuds these are so much more important….wenas notches mouchacha

greg · 05/04/2016 at 13:26

iv decided I don't want the headaches of ryan griffen of last year so im getting rid of both barlow and rockliff for ben kennedy and libberatore. this gives me $515,000 to next week trade Gresham to anyone maybe JJ once I see how he goes this weekend.

    derek · 05/04/2016 at 13:43

    Griffin wasn't that bad last year. Averaged 91 and didn't miss a week. Can't have everyone scoring 100+

    if you have trades left you can still upgrade him later in the year. if you burn them all early you can't.

william gates · 05/04/2016 at 13:47

Fyfe and Gresham or parker and wells 800ooo each of two .already done but which one can you tell me thanks

pommytommy · 05/04/2016 at 13:50

Any love for Kane Lambert as an option to come in for Barlow?

    Kev · 05/04/2016 at 16:09

    His good form will taper off and you'll end up trading him out again. Would only trade Barlow for another keeper.

    A good option if you have degoey and want to go sideways

    Leeds17 · 06/04/2016 at 13:22

    There are plenty of Points up for grabs at Richmond with the lack of real Quality players there but do remember they have a few to come back in biggest of course is Lids.

Swans2012 · 05/04/2016 at 14:34

So after deciding to hold, the news comes through that rocky is out for two, I think that means he's gone for me so here I go again with the will I won't I game…..
I reckon he'll be a tasty upgrade in about 5 weeks though

    Steeeve · 05/04/2016 at 14:47

    Do you really want to trade him out then back in though? How much do you value trades?

      Swans2012 · 05/04/2016 at 15:23

      Yeah it's tight, but it's really about not letting the leaders get too far ahead, gotta use rockys $$$ I reckon rather than leaving them on the bench for 2 weeks. Whether I bring him back or not will depend on whether he is the best option at the time, having had him already is irrelevant. But he will be cheap….

    Dillon Panthers · 05/04/2016 at 14:54

    If you plan on getting him in again mate there is no point in trading him out. It is just a waste of two trades. I have him and I plan to hold. The value of the premiums doesn't really matter as they've been picked to stay in the team for the year. Plus he's a good loophole this week as the lions play last. Just my take though!

      Swans2012 · 05/04/2016 at 15:20

      Normally I'd agree with you, it's only two weeks just hold, but 2 weeks after an interrupted preseason for a premo that is going to drop 70-100k on his return all adds up to trade for me. Once he's out of my team I don't care whether it's him or someone else I bring in in say 5 weeks when he bottoms out, I'll just take the best available at the time, whether he's already been in my team is irrelevant.

      I think this year more than previous you can't afford to let the leaders get too far ahead if your playing for overall. Making up ground will be tough with all the quality midpricer/rookie scores getting around. Hence I'll be using rockys $$$ rather than storing them on the bench….

        Steeeve · 05/04/2016 at 16:53

        Fair call, I'd be holding and making sure I had plenty of trades up my sleeve. No good keeping up with the leaders if you end up running out with three weeks to go.

          Swans2012 · 05/04/2016 at 19:13

          No point having two trades left and being out of contention either ;). I'm a big fan of the aggressive trading approach in case you didn't notice although I have calmed myself this year so far…..

        Dillon Panthers · 05/04/2016 at 17:14

        Fair enough lads. Good food for thought!

    derek · 05/04/2016 at 17:31

    the problem you have now is Who? Normally you would paint the fence, you can't go Rocky to a rookie and have all that cash doing nothing, but unless you have a warchest, you can't go up to an ultra premo. looks like a sideways to me. Trade waste.

      Swans2012 · 05/04/2016 at 19:12

      we'll see Derek, I have 115k in reserve so could go up if required, was going to use it to bring in Weitering but he is now an unnecessarily large rookie spend. We have always had opposite opinions on these sort of things, and funnily enough we both ended up in the top 100 for a large part of last season, i love that there is no right way in This game!

SC16 · 05/04/2016 at 14:42

ben kennedy, Marcus adams, papley?
which 2 should i trade in?

    Steeeve · 05/04/2016 at 14:46

    Kennedy and Adams. Papley a distant third given the Swans depth.

      SC16 · 05/04/2016 at 16:02

      cheers mate that was my first thought, and marcus adams looks to be a very solid player this year

SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 14:54

Rocky is likely to miss at least two weeks according to afl.com.au

The other two Rs, Rich and Robbo are both listed as tests.

    hedski · 05/04/2016 at 15:08

    Rocky to fyfe next week

      SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 15:17

      Yes that's one good option to consider hedski.

      Lions play the last game this weekend so it would make Rocky a handy $550K loop device as well.

    Paulie Walnuts · 05/04/2016 at 15:14

    Interrupted pre season with no base fitness also has an old mans injury unfortunately he must be traded

Xav · 05/04/2016 at 14:57

Barlow to JJ via brown a good trade, or wait a couple weeks

    SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 15:03

    I'm pulling the trigger on that transaction this week. Other coaches are just sitting tight for now and hoping the bar doesn't go any lower as it were, or gets dropped altogether.

    JamiesNinjas13 · 05/04/2016 at 15:09

    Freo is in crisis mode. The new gameplan has failed miserably so surely Ross the Boss has to revert back to their successful game plan over the past few years. If Barlow is still a spud then we can trade him. JJ is playing the hawks (good test) and will only go up 30k if he scores a ton. So i think its a good to wait. Surely you have other priorities?

Jambo · 05/04/2016 at 15:11

I haven't had the best start but I picked Aaron Hall, Marcus Adams, Darcy Parish and Lachie Hunter from the start. I'm stoked!! Trading Barlow and Rockliff to Tom Mitchell and either Johnassen or Laird (moving an injured Rich into the midfield). I think Tom Mitchell will roam at will just picking up possessions and points. I'd like to know your thoughts.

Davo · 05/04/2016 at 15:19

Rocky to R Gray
Barlow to Z Merrett

Its like the song says fellas…."You gotta know when to hold em
Know when to fold em
Know when to walk away
Know when to run"

Fyfe last week was line 1
Rocky is line 2
Barlow is line 3
Lobbe is line 4

Others I want out include Gawn (why did everyone go nuts over this guy just because he beat up on a horribly out of form Lobbe in a practice game?)

Jess Lonergan…..wish i had stuck with JJ

    Southern S · 05/04/2016 at 16:49

    You obviously didn't play supercoach last year if you think people picked Gawn because of one game against Lobbe.

    Leeds17 · 06/04/2016 at 13:21

    Please Trade Lonergan, I reckon he'll make you look silly.

Sammyboy · 05/04/2016 at 15:20

I know I missed all of these players but priorities who to bring in, out of…
BenKen, Papley, Wells, Libba?

    Phil · 05/04/2016 at 15:58

    A lot might disagree but I reckon Libba and Wells. Reason being I reckon that can make just as much coin as the other 2 but with the added bonus of being a chance of becoming a keeper.
    No doubt Papley is off to a flyer but if he starts scoring 60's, which I expect him to, his profit will start to plateau.

    Similarly with Kennedy, if he starts scoring 70's who won't make as much as he is projected too. Remember, he has only played Essendon and GWS. Papley has played in 2 big wins.

Big G · 05/04/2016 at 15:34

Will Zaharakis be a top 10/15 midfielder by the end of the year?

    Southern S · 05/04/2016 at 16:48

    How would anybody know that?

      Big G · 05/04/2016 at 16:56

      Educated guess?

        Southern S · 05/04/2016 at 17:20

        Personally I think he's going to have a good year. Top 15-20

          derek · 05/04/2016 at 17:34

          he is playing for essendon, cant see him scoring that well. he will get tired…. very tired.

    DadSmasher · 05/04/2016 at 17:37

    I don't really care as long as he continues to increase in value and score 100plus each week until the byes.
    This game is about trading, if you only trade to replace missing players you can never win

Win5 · 05/04/2016 at 15:37

Current Team What to do?
D: Shaw, Rich, Seedsman, Weitering, Adams, Dea, Tipungwuti, M Brown
M: Danger, Ablett, Prddis, Fyfe, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Oliver, Gresham, Davis, Hewitt
R: Nicnat, Gawn, Grimley
F: Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, Menadue, McCarthy

I don't have Papley.
I am concerned about Barlow, Rich, Seedsman and Rocky. However with 2 trades what's the best compromise?

Gold Rush · 05/04/2016 at 15:41

Depends what your objective is?

    Gold Rush · 05/04/2016 at 15:42

    That's in reply to Sammy

Phil · 05/04/2016 at 15:49

Get rid of Barlow for Laird or Johannissen by swinging Adams/Brown or Tippa forward. Not only does this get rid of a spud premium (Barlow) you are also getting a guaranteed (possibly slightly underpriced) premium back (Laird) or a value back that could very likely finish top6 (JJ) Also it opens up a F/B link between those 3 rookies.

Next thing to do is get in Papley. I reckon trade out Gresham and put Menadue in the midfield to open up another link.

Seedsman might not be the best pick but he should make you a little coin, maybe 50k, so get that before trading him out. Rich and Rockliff I would persist with.

    Phil · 05/04/2016 at 15:51

    This advice was for win5

      Win5 · 05/04/2016 at 16:28

      So i guess by getting a premium in defence and finding more dollars is a good balance between the 2 trades, rather than trying to get a midfielder in there for Rocky like a Zaharakis or T Mitchell. Cheers for the advice.

Liam · 05/04/2016 at 15:54

Who should I trade in for Barlow and rocky ?
Fyfe and menadue +200k
Or
Hanners and JJ via dpp

    Kev · 05/04/2016 at 16:01

    2

    SC16 · 05/04/2016 at 16:04

    very hard to say but i would probably go hannebry and jj
    then in a few weeks you could pick up fyfe for around the same price as hanners and jj will hopefully make some serious money and will be a good stepping stone to someone like shaw
    good luck

Dan · 05/04/2016 at 16:03

Barlow – Z Merrett
Dunkley – Papley via Kerridge
Rockliff: Bench
Kerridge: On Field

DEF:
Houli, Laird, Simpson, Birchall, Dea, Hartley

FWD:
Z Merrett, Greene, Hall, Wells, B Kennedy, Papley/Adams

Also considering JJ but feel Merrett is more proven at the moment.

Mister_Spock · 05/04/2016 at 16:11

I think there is a third decision tree Higgo, one that is based on a change to game rules or game style that has the potential to impact a player's scoring output.

We've seen some significant changes heading into this year – namely the interchange rotation cap, ditching of the sub vest, and the out of bounds rule change. It still remains to be seen what impact this will have, meaning there is some uncertainty compared with previous seasons.

1. Will Rucks get less hit outs if there are fewer throw-ins?
2. Will rookies get fatigued earlier in the season due to the fewer rotations?
3. Will players like Rockliff who are injury-prone be a greater risk due to the lack of rest leading to an increased risk of injury?
4. Will players like Barlow be able to adapt to the change in pace of the game (assuming the pace can be sustained for the entire season)?
5. Will players that saw limited game time last year due to the fact that they were always named sub (e.g. Aaron Young) now have greater scoring potential?

    derek · 05/04/2016 at 17:37

    what do you think the answers are?

BigHaydos · 05/04/2016 at 16:24

No one considering Jarrod Waite? Sure he is a key position player but he is on fire and has no fear of stepping up to the big stages. Obviously Norths go to man for goals and can definitely snag marks deep in packs.0.6% ownership is extremely low. welcome

Corey Enright, always going to be a top ten defender and has a ridiculously low ownership and is plotting along nicely at a average of 95…. welcome.

    Kev · 05/04/2016 at 16:41

    Look at his history. 80-90 yearly average. Last time he completed a full year was way back in 2007. Point chasing his 170 will probably reward you with a 40 this week.

    Plus he's a giant flog.

      SCaddict · 05/04/2016 at 16:56

      Now tell us howya really feel Kev! 🙂

      BigHaydos · 05/04/2016 at 17:00

      yeah mate tell us how you really feel next time aye, dont be polite 🙂 hahahaha

    Southern S · 05/04/2016 at 16:52

    I smell burning.

    BigHaydos · 05/04/2016 at 16:59

    currently have enright and dusty 🙂 just thought id point out i think Waite could be an interesting POD. each to their own 🙂 its two weeks in and plenty of times ive read comments regarding certain players and they have flopped.

    lets not cut me down before the story of the season unfolds.

      BigHaydos · 05/04/2016 at 17:01

      in saying that i dont think i have the balls to pick waite lol ill go with dusty and have no money in the bank

        DadSmasher · 05/04/2016 at 17:45

        Go with it bigfella he's averaged close to 100 for most of his career apart from when Malthouse was coach (even Gaz would struggle to ave 100 under that fuxwit) mainly misses games through suspension not injury and Scotty seems to have found a way to calm him.
        He was/still is a lot like Kyrios and spits the dummy and gives up when getting flogged but is a real crowd pleasing world beater when things go his way.
        I'll be very suprised if his ave is less than 105 come the bye rounds and if I needed another 100plus forward I'd get him before Dusty at this stage.

      Southern S · 05/04/2016 at 17:14

      The irony is he got a 170 in round 2 last year too.

      I see you're trying to sabotage other people's teams that's not on haydos!

        BigHaydos · 05/04/2016 at 19:41

        Now, Now Southern S! I think he could Be a real pod and a potential pick. No sabotaging going on here mate

The_Black_Mamba · 05/04/2016 at 16:52

Should i trade menadue to papley and then put rockliff on my bench?

    derek · 05/04/2016 at 17:38

    no. menadue must be kept to make cash

Shake n bake · 05/04/2016 at 16:56

Not sc relevant but just spoke to Slone in Melb. His partner would is wow wee.

    BigHaydos · 05/04/2016 at 17:01

    english level 9000

      derek · 05/04/2016 at 17:39

      obviously gets tough tied infront of a pretty girl

        Southern S · 05/04/2016 at 18:51

        Seems it's contagious!

          tophawk · 05/04/2016 at 19:59

          Brilliant!!! Love it. hehehehe

          Just going to run the spelling checker before sending this…-))))))

Nathan · 05/04/2016 at 16:57

Dont trade anyone they say- while I trade my way to success- everyone needs corrective trades. That's the beauty of AFL SuperCoach. It's what you do with the trades that count. If there is an elephant in the room, tackle it!!!

    tophawk · 05/04/2016 at 17:35

    Hear hear. I have two white elephants in the room. Barlow and Rocky. They will be gang tacked and tossed out of my side. Last year I went soft on Lumumba, Griffen and TBC. Gave them too much time. Bad decision. Not this year. Poor performance or any injuries will be dealt with swiftly. I have all the right rookies so I have a bit more freedom to come down harder on spuds.

    Cheers

      Gold Rush · 05/04/2016 at 17:45

      Totally agree, everyone has different problems / objectives – do what you have to do.

Xav · 05/04/2016 at 17:41

Should i trade in gray or danger
Gray saves money but already got wines and wingard

Gold Rush · 05/04/2016 at 17:48

Not bringing in Papley as I have most of the top 10 cash cows and at this point two Crookies in Gresham and Dunkley – but I can use those 2 for loopholes (hopefully)

Mark · 05/04/2016 at 18:09

Who has the better run (playing later games) as a loophole option? Wyatt (Collngwood) or Loersch (Gold Coast)?

Tulendeena · 05/04/2016 at 18:16

Looking to bring in a Heath Shaw in a few rounds for suckling from the cash generated by barlow to papley

Thoughts?

Liam · 05/04/2016 at 20:25

Sounds good, thinking of trading Barlow to menadue myself for the cash.

Richard · 05/04/2016 at 21:17

Well the good news for me is I didn't start with either Barlow or rocky but thought Joey montagna would be a good pod.
My problem is montagna plays the first half like a man possessed and has 50+ points to half time and dies in the 2nd half to finish in the 80'same
Do I trade Joey out for hall then trade s.grey to parker via kerridge dpp…

Thanks in advance community

    Leeds17 · 06/04/2016 at 13:17

    Silly trades IMO Sam's had one bad game, & Joey's averagin 91 after 2 games HOLD

Win5 · 05/04/2016 at 23:46

2 Trades
D: Shaw, Rich, Seedsman, Weitering, Adams, Dea, Tipungwuti, M Brown
M: Danger, Ablett, Prddis, Fyfe, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Oliver, Gresham, Davis, Hewitt
R: Nicnat, Gawn, Grimley
F: Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, Menadue, McCarthy

As you can see I have all the warning sign players in Rich, Rocky and Barlow. I have most of the top 10 rookies, but not Papley.

Where can I build the strength into my side with 2 picks. Your input and advice is greatly appreciated.

ST74 · 08/04/2016 at 07:49

Should I trade Yeo for Johanissen and Simpkin to Papley or move Yeo to the bench (Des and Hartley on pine scoring 80+). Other option is the second trade and Rocky to Parker or Ablett. Thoughts?

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