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The PANIC ROOM – Round 2

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Here we are, community! Round one has come and gone, our sides are locked in and the REGRET has begun.

The regret of picking Shannon Hurn over Brodie Smith, the regretful thought that Ben Kennedy was too expensive, and of course, the big one for many of us – including the great man Jock Reynolds himself – the decision to not select Gary Ablett Jnr.

Some of us had a great weekend, including inner sanctum member Maso, who clocked up a mammoth 2451 this week, while for others – my side of potatoes included – the sweetest thing we got close to was chocolate.

Scott UndePendlebury, Tom Rockliff, Heath Shaw, Teen Wolf Fyfe and sidekick/Brownlow date Michael Barlow and The Butcher of Blacktown, Toby Greene, all had stinkers.

But one week does not maketh the human. Round one is where those with luck often shine, before being brought down to earth as point of difference calls like Josh J Kennedy, David Zaharakis, Kane Lambert and Tom Hickey – who I will discuss – fall back to Earth.

Or at least I bloody well hope so.

Anyway. This is the panic room! What the blazes are we doing around carefully analysing stuff? LET’S PANIC!

Milhouse

That’s the spirit, Milhouse!

THE NEWS

Here we go, this is more like it. Round one served up a plate of Stuff You And Your Point of Difference Selections to go along with the lovely, steaming pile of Regret For All The Picks You Didn’t Make. Mmm-mmmm, yumyumyum.

We had Hawthorn captain Luke Hodge breaking his wrist, and gun Collingwood midfielder Steele Sidebottom suspended for two games, heading off the list of players who need to be traded.

Speaking of that list, Pie Dane Swan has suffered a broken leg, and if you are one of the 1.9% of sides with him, he’s gotta go.

Jed Anderson joins Swan on the long term injury list having done a hamstring. Flick him if you’ve got him.

Troy Sam McClure, who you may remember from such shows as Sports Today and I Hate Supercoach Sometimes, says Scott Pendlebury is carrying sore ribs into tomorrow night’s game and won’t be 100%. There’s no danger of him missing, according to McClure, but his inside work will likely be diminished. Expect another week of regret for selecting him over Gary Ablett or Matthew Priddis.

A trifecta of calf injuries is concerning animal rights activists, as Suns recruit Matt Rosa will miss a game, while flog-turned-floggy-leader Mitch Robinson from the Lions is out for a few and rookie Daniel Rioli has disappeared almost as quickly as he arrived. All three have done something to their calves, which begs the question; is drug abuse or young cow abuse is the real problem facing the AFL today?

I’m sorry. That joke was… udderly… awful.

homer

I’ll stop for real now.

Rosa and Rioli should be back next week and shouldn’t need a trade, but Robinson could miss two and could warrant a trade.

If you toyed with mid-priced Essendon prospects Jonathon Simpkin or Craig Bird, you’re going to have to trade to a Ben Kennedy or Daniel Wells, as both of them have been overlooked for selection after their lacklustre attempts at doing the football thing on the weekend.

Melbourne rookie Oscar McDonald will miss this week for the Demons after doing an ankle, but fear not, for they have been bolstered by the inclusion of Heritier ‘The Gift’ Lumumba who will hopefully win Essendon the game off his own ego.

Dayne Zorko returns in all his magnificent glory on Saturday, and should be a big consideration for Coach Kings sides. Also returning is the big friendly giant Aaron Sandilands, who should bolster the scores of Nat Fyfe and Michael Barlow.

Heading the inclusions list is Essendon rookie Michael Hartley, who if you ask me should have been selected last week, but no, the selection committee “don’t listen to angry letters from people on the internet.” Pfft.

We also have Kade Kolodjashnij returning from his mystery illness, new Eagle Lewis Jetta and fantasy football flog Dale Thomas being selected for their first games of 2016.

Still absent is Brett ‘Where the bloody hell are you?’ Deledio, who evidently decides he doesn’t want to start playing football before April every year. Sam Grimely is also sitting, unselected, in a lot of R3 positions, which still has me puzzled. In fact, only 4 top up players have been named for the Dons, with Matty Dea, Matthew Stokes and James Kelly joining Ryan Crowley.

As has been said by everyone this week, don’t trade unless someone’s injured. We don’t have enough information to go against all our pre-season research. Give them another week – yes, even Toby bloody Greene. Hold, community.

TRADING PLACES

Breakevens aren’t a thing until next week, so I don’t have to google how to spell Dan Aykroyd’s name for another week.

THE TALKING POINT

New year, new segments – in The Talking Point, I’ll give my two cents on the biggest question of the week. Hit me up on Twitter if you want a question brought up!

This week, Tom Hickey from the Saints is up for discussion after being the second ruckman to feast on the flayed carcass of Matthew Lobbe. He scored a mammoth 157 points on the weekend, collecting the pill 20 times – 13 contested at 70% efficiency – to go with six clearances and 56 hitouts.

This kid has talent, and Mick the Mad Irishman loves him, but hold, community. We’re not at danger of seeing his current 375k price shoot up for another week, so see how he goes against the Dogs. However, keep in mind the Dogs are the one side who would be a worse yardstick in ruck stocks than the Lobbe-lead Power.

THE ROOKIE RUMBLE

A stable of last year’s Panic Room has been taken on by the great Barron Von Crow, who gives much better insight than I ever had time to. I wish I had time to reproduce his incredible, awe-inspiring captaincy Scouting Report, but alas I cannot. Lek’s brilliant cheat sheet will help plug some of that gap, so make sure you check that out.

However, I will throw my top 3 captaincy picks up each week in a new segment I call…

‘CAPTAIN’ A-meh-RICA

The lazy man’s captain’s corner, Captain A-meh-Rica will list two solid VC options, two blokes you can count on and one sneaky smokie. It’s for blokes who have done no captaincy research by a bloke who’s done very little captaincy research.

Because the pun “Captain A-Mare-Ica” will get old quickly (see, it’s already on its last legs), let’s hope I don’t have to use it often.

This week, early games see Collingwood play, which would ordinarily see us jumping on Scott Pendlebury. However, with news of his injured ribs, I’d steer clear and look to Robbie Gray in Showdown XXXX (the Showdown for More Beer), who averaged 128 in Showdowns last year. I’d have no problems backing Tom Rockliff to go big against North.

On the big gold C, I’d trust Nat Fyfe – with the return of Aaron Sandilands – or Gary Ablett to carry the standard for us. Both are guns of the supercoach world.

My smokie option this week is Maxy Gawn. Coming up against a woeful Essendon side with an underdone Matthew Luenhameneggenburger he might score BIG.

That’s it from me, community. I’ve made enough bad jokes and written enough incoherent words for this week. I’ll do my best to flit in and out of the comments, so hopefully I’ll see you there! Good luck this week, community.


 

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Kang Van Der Bang

Hi Community should I start Charlie Mills VS Carlton or Dunkly VS the Saints this week?

Matt

Mills I reckon

@DanielFisher

Mills all the way.

Kang Van Der Bang

Callum Mills*

Pinidu

Definitely Mills v Carlton mate. McVeigh isn't back yet so Mills will get plenty of the pill across half back.

Pinidu

Community, I'm in a bit of a predicament right now and I need some help.

Here's my starting lineup:
Shaw, Houli, Laird, Weitering, Dea, Adams (Brown, AMT)
Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Pendles, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Parish (Hewett, Dunkley, Davis)
Nic Nat, Gawn (Wyatt)
Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Papley, McCarthey)

I have 14.5K in the bank.
As you can see my two main problems are:
– I don't have Ben Kennedy
– I have Toby Greene

I'm looking to upgrade Greene to Sam Gray and bring in Ben Kennedy before round 3 when the prices change. However, I'm happy to wait another week and see how Greene goes against the Cats. If I don't trade this week I'll be unable to make both changes next week due to insufficient funds. Should I bring in Kennedy now or downgrade McCarthy to Hartley (via DPP) in order to have enough money for next week?

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm not sure what course of action I should take.

Dan

Mate you can't chase every player. Just hold your trades, your team looks solid enough. Kennedy the only one id worry about getting after this round.

Josh

I'm having the exact same thoughts
As I don't have Ben ken and have Greene
As tempting as it is
I don't think Ben Kennedy will keep up scoring 115
Imo he would be lucky to avg 80, so don't stress to much
Although if there is a way of getting him in do it.

Dean

Greene to Kennedy do the trade this week. Melbourne Vs. Essendon = Kennedy will score 110+

Greene will score 60 tops if he isn't a late out, the guy is a spud.

Chill

Patch, still feeling ok about the Suckling pick? I have him too…

crown

Anyone worth their weight in salt (i.e., people that finish in top1% regularly) know that you should not make any changes to your team until round 6 or 7 (injuries aside of course). Don't rob peter to pay paul. If you carry any credibility in this caper and would've picked a reasonable team to start with, do not and i repeat do not make any changes – back your players in its amazing what will happen!

Cruz

excellent point

derek

Rule #1: have the right rookies

the start of the season is all about cash-generation. people do focus too much on their early season points. and the best way to make cash is to have the right cash-cows.

it is ok to make trades if it is getting your rookies correct.

or long term injuries

northernsoul74

Or if like me you were stupid enough to pick Toby Greene.

Scouser

Same here mate, but he was the last trade I made to get the right rookies in the first place which has come out ok in that regard. And it might have done me a favour as I traded down from big Mitch Robbo who's going to miss this week at least but who at least demonstrated to the world that he can play football. Toby has the gun to his head atm and the trigger is cocked!

Benjamima Puddleduck

Winning so far!
Perfect rookie set up to the year!
Still making a sneaky sneak sneak trade =)

JamiesNinjas13

You're not wrong Crown, however we will never start off with the perfect team and the perfect rookies. Therefore everyone should use 2 trades in R3 to do corrective trading. Apart from that you are right about no other trades until r6 (apart from injuries). I was ranked in the top 1000 last year.

The Ranger

Spot on Crowny

The Beard

Starting Dea or Brown ya reckon?

rust

dea

derek

dea

@DanielFisher

Dea all the way.

Tret

I think we'll get a better look at Hurn this week, Patch. Whenever WestCoast pump a side like they did brisbane last week, Hurn usually scores in that 50-60 point range. Lets just hope West Coast dont pump a side every week

The Beard

Also who to start for M8 Menadue, Hewett, Mills?

Pinidu

Mills

derek

can you loophole any of them?

Holty

If you're not planning on playing Mills on field, no point having him in my opinion. You paid a premium for a rookie for a reason. If you are questioning his ability, grab a cheaper rookie to sit on your bench.

Oliver

Isn't Greene a possibility to be dropped? Should I bring in De Goey if that happens or swing Menadue back into the forwards and get in Brad Crouch?

The Wyld One

If Greene gets dropped, I'll be subbing him into the Mids and trading in Zaharakis for him and pocketing 30 k

Luke

This was one of the options I considered also, or even JJ which would be a bit more balanced….
If I bring in zaka, it would mean brad crouch is m8 which I think is too deep in mids. Then would only have 2 forward premo, but I feel they are guys who we can put on ground with confidence. It would mean I would have to put 4 on field out of Wells, Kerridge, Kennedy or Menadue,

JamiesNinjas13

Yep named on the extended bench and reports say he was training with the NEAFL squad. I think since you got Greene as a premium, you should trade him to another premium so it doesnt change your structure/number of premiums you have. Getting a midpricer will set you back one trade due to upgrading that midpricer later on.

Tret

Who are people chucking the C on this week?

Tossing up between Gazza and Danger

Chill

VC on Gawn, C on Priddis.

Nathan

Ive gone gawn into danger
Gawn against essendons only ruck in leuenburger this week will kill him as he's underdone
And danger against gws
Well it speaks for itself

Benjamima Puddleduck

Nic Nat
165 score this week!

Holty

Goldy to GAJ

uDonkey

VC on Gray had it locked on at the start of week before even Patch mentioned it. Danger will be my back up C again though Fyfe is tempting up against GC i think he'll go big after last weeks performance.

Chill

Tret, Ablett has averaged 148 in his past three against the Dockers, including a 185 back in 2011.

Nathan

Im trading greene
He played as a tagger against melbourne
So id say he'd most likely do the same against a better side in geelong
Im thinking of de goey or even a d5 in rich

JamiesNinjas13

There are no reports that said he played the tagging role. Apparently was just lazy and uninterested on the day.

Jojo

Who will play better menadue or Hewett

Southern S

Nobody knows.

Gibbs

If hurn has another off week, would it be wise to burn a trade to a jj or smith?

Nicholas

Community need some advice on my team

Here is my team:
Backs: laird, bartel, rich, dea, adams, weitering (brown, amt)
Mids: ablett, danger, fyfe, rocky, wines, libby, crouch, hewett (mills, dunkley, davis)
Rucks: nic nat, gawn (cox)
Forwards: barlow, hall, greene, wells, kennedy, kerridge ( menadue, mccarthy)

As you can see my forward rookies are looking good so i was thinking greene to gray or jj via dpp or brown or amt.
I know many have said hold trades but i may need these trades next week for rookies such as papley who looked great. Also there isnt a guarantee that greene is even playing this week and if he doesnt play it could leave me with no options to trade him to cause of lockout.

Also are ther any other problems with my team i have missed if so please let me know about them and help me get through this dilemna.

Nicholas

Also i have 137.9k in the bank for trades

Average Joe

Save greene another week. I know it looks really tempting to trade him out but it is expected. I was thinking of doing a few trades like that this week but looking at other people's teams I can see that the right option is to hold your trades right now. Your team is great already. If greene doesn't play this week, just put menadue on as he is looking good. But still, What would happen if greene had 150 this week? Wait another week, and if you still feel the need to trade greene out do so, but one game doesn't dictate how he will go for the rest of the year. And papley might get dropped as well as the fact that as a small forward he is likely to only score 40s for majority of the time.

Southern S

As you have all the good rookies you don't need to do the JJ trade till next week. At which point you do the DPP swap and have Dea on the bench.

WELCOME

I would not trade out Greene just yet but if he is dropped then get rid of him don't even think about it and bring in either Gunston, J Kennedy or Franklin.

James

Bring in Oliver or Parish for Simpkin?

Ddj

Considering the fact that Simpkin is a top up player and has been dropped this week for not playing as well as he is capable of should make him the safer option to get rid of. Essendon will most likely want to get more games into Parish like they did Dyson Heppell and can count on his efforts more each week over the top ups

Wizard of Ertz

I don't have either Oliver or Parish. I have moved Menadue from mid bench to fwd on the ground and brought in Dunkley to the mid bench. I've pocketed $100+ to use next week on a big move before price rises (eg upgrade De Goey to Hall).

Matt

Wait a week. Simpkin could easily come back into the side next week, and if he doesn't you'll be able to make a safer decision on who to bring in based on two performances rather than one.

chisel

If Toby greene is dropped he will be traded out. But with only 20k to add to his measly 450k my stocks are limited. Who do I go to? Cheers

So far im looking back to stringer who was in my team all summer

derek

there are many examples of players getting dropped or almost dropped, and then they come out and kill it.

Only need to go back to the early rounds last year when everyone was jumping off P Cripps after 2 or 3 rounds. How wrong did that turn out to be.

I would hold onto Greene (i don't have him so it is easy to say) even if he gets dropped this week

Southern S

Yep, I held onto Cripps and it paid off.

Matt

big difference between a rookie like Cripps and an expensive player like Greene

derek

good point, but it was the best i could come up with.

northernsoul74

Im in the same boat Chisel. Stringer is really all I can afford. I love Stringer but he isn't going to score 5 goals every week and the Dogs need him forward for as much of the game as possible. Expect some low scores amongst some high ones if you take him.

WELCOME

I would not trade out Greene just yet but if he is dropped then get rid of him, don't even think about it and bring in Franklin or anyone you like from Hawks, West Coast, Carlton or Sydney.
Greene is to expensive to hold onto PERIOD, Cripps was less then half Greene's price so comparing the Greene scenario to Cripps is beyond absurd.

Brook

Help me put my mind at rest … do I trade Pendles to GAJ this week? Pendles avgs 105 (from 12 games) without Swan since 2011. His overall average is 124 in this time. Am i jumping at shadows or should we be concerned?

Southern S

If ablett hits a 150 this week then consider it, pendles is rumoured to have sore ribs too so might affect his output this week.

Looking at it simply though you don't want to trade someone like Pendlebury.

GoHawks

Starting Hartley, M.Brown or AMDT

I will only have 1 of them on the ground, thoughts please

SC God

AMDT

Southern S

Hartley.

@DanielFisher

Hartley.

Sarah

Love your work Patch! Gotta admit, I love the bad jokes!!!
I'm taking the POD option of Gawn for the VC and placing the back-up C on Gaz.
Good luck in round 2 everyone.

sharmanism

Gone with Gawn VC and Danger as C.

Sarah

Nice!

hedski

Same gawn will feast on hammeneggenburger

Dean

Who do you guys have as a non player, must be Ruggles?

hedski

Yep

gus

rockliff or pebndles VC?

If poor into Gaz or Danger as C?

Southern S

Pendles rumoured to have sore ribs, could of been rested if it wasn't for the pies midfield situation.

Rockliff then either Gaz or Danger, probably Danger I suppose. Looked in his best form ever in round one.

Scouser

I've stuck it on Pendles Gus, should be a nice pod if it comes off and it's a VC so little risk with dangers form and high avg against the Giants. personally I want to go Fyfe this week though just can't loophole it with Danger.

Danners

Looking for a forward rookie? Dougal Howard is in for his debut after a late change

Southern S

These are the sorts of trades that people will scoff at, and rightly so.

An absolute joke to bring in someone like that who is replacing someone with a sore back. Shultz comes back next week and dougal has to wait till halfway through the season for another shot.

The Ranger

I have a strcit No Dougals policy

Neverweaken

Silly question and not the right forum. But how do I reverse trades? I'm on an iPad. And i can't see where it would be.
What screen or page is it under

Kev

Assuming iphone and iPad app is the same, tap the icon bottom right hand corner when on your team screen. If you can't figure it out, just log in on the desktop version of the site

Neverweaken

Thanks. Not had to do it before round one. Just hit T on the player. Now I know. That little graph icon. Thanks again

Big fact hunt

Press the frame button in bottom right hand corner and will have reverse trade option

jordo

Oliver or Parish? Corrective trade for anderson (via menadue dpp) FYI, not chasing points.

Kev

Oliver

@DanielFisher

Oliver. Everyone loves a bloodnut.

Michael

Keep or Trade Mitch Robinson community?
Cheers

derek

i think he will only miss one game

sharmanism

I'm holding

Scouser

If, as my genies wish is, I still had him instead of Toby jug, I'd be holding him Michael, possibly only missing 1 game and there should be enough fwd cover from the bench this week from rookies.

Michael

Cheers mate!

Beerz09

What happened to Fyfe last week and do we trade him to someone like Gibbs and pocket the cash?
My round 1 team below;

J. Johannisen, E. Yeo, H. Shaw, T. McKenzie, M. Dea, M. Brown (M. Hartley, T. Ruggles)
P. Dangerfield, B. Kennedy, T. Liberatore, A. Gaff, D. Hanneberry, M. Crouch, T. Rockliff, N. Fyfe (R. Davis, D. Gore, B. Keays)
N. Naitanui, M. Gawn (S. Grimley)
A. Hall, D. Wells, S. Kerridge, C. Menadue, M. Barlow, T. Greene (A. McD-Tip, M. Cox)

Fyfe, Barlow, Greene – shockers but perhaps hold – not too sure on Dea and Brown in DEF
What do you think community?

Southern S

Maybe give hartley a run instead of brown.

Fyfe for Gibbs is a shocker. One game won't represent scoring for the season.

Beerz09

I will be holding Fyfe for now, just putting it out there

derek

Fyfe to gibbs….yes i like it!!!!!!

Sarah

Lol!

derek

i was going to ask what he had been smoking, then i realized his name! i think he has been drinking!

Sarah

I think he's been drinking a lot!!

@DanielFisher

If you trade Fyfe to Gibbs I'm pretty sure that the Supercoach app kicks you out for the season ……

HOLLA

Fix your rookies mate.

Sarah

To all those people wanting to trade out Greene following his score of 51 in Round 1… Dustin Martin scored 51 in Round 1 last year and went on to be a 'must have' and top 6 forward… just think about that for a minute.

northernsoul74

Advice if he gets dropped later this afternoon? At least martin last year continued to get picked.

Sarah

There's nothing like getting dropped to prompt a form turn around. Worked for him 2 years ago. So that'll be an individual call to make. If you've got cover, I'd be inclined to hold for at least 1 week, see if he's named the following week… if not, then trade before prices change. That's my advice.

Northernsoul74

Thanks for the sensible advice. I'll try and resist giving him the flick.

Neverweaken

Ok. In a fit of madness I have Sean Hampton as second ruck. Like the dpi with Tippett in my forward line. Thanks to that I have tons of cash. Do I accept my screw up and bring back NicNat like I had in planning? Or do I wait one more week for some miracle and then trade? And if Hickey pulls out another belter trade to him?
That's my only issue. Still scored 2170 with Gary as captain so think my team is ok

Sarah

I wouldn't keep Hampton. If that's a mistake, then I'd be fixing it ASAP. You don't want Hampton for the season, Maric will be back soon and Hampton doesn't have a good supercoach history… bring in NicNat!!!

Southern S

Maric will come back I could not think of a worse second ruck.

@DanielFisher

Madness for sure. What were you thinking? Hampson is a spud at the best of times and probably will be playing VFL all year when Maric is back.

If you can get Nic Nat, go for it. Set and forget with a little Tippet FWD line insurance you'll be laughing.

If you want to go POD style, Zac Smith isn't a bad choice. FFS don't get Hickey. Sweet Jesus don't get Hickey. He might maul the ruckless Bullies this week, but then kick back and wait the 85's roll in week after week, after week.

Jackwatt$

Unless if you're trying to get a team with the best looking partners I'd ditch Hampson as well.

MaccasMarvels

Ha! Great comment.

Has got me thinking, a team with/of 'best looking partners' would be tough to pick.

sharmanism

At the moment I've held off on trading but if Steele doesn't make the final cut (I'm sticking Robinson on the bench) I'm giving serious consideration to Steele and Lachie Hunter out for BenKen and Luke Parker.

Gawn VC (also think he will go big Patch) with Danger as Capt (Robbo loophole)

Team is:
Defence
Laird, Macmillan, Birchall, Lonergan, Weitering Dea – Int M Brown, Tippi

Midfield
Fyfe, Danger, Shiel, Rocky, Hall, Hunter, B Crouch – Int Robinson, Oliver, Davis

Ruck
Goldy, Gawn – Int Wyatt

Forward
Barlow, Steele, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge, Adams – Int McGovern, Papley

Ethan017

Bit of a worry having Steele at F2 and no Libba is asking for disaster Macmillian, Birchall and Lonergan don't look like consistent scorers. I see a lot of corrective changes needing to be made throughout the year
Good luck mate

sharmanism

Thanks.

I have faith in JMac having a very big year, Lonergan was solid last week and thinking with Lake out from Hawthorn that Birchall should go over 90 average.

Steele is gone for BenKen and I've upgraded Hunter for Parker.

Swanny

Is it alright to not trade this week?

uDonkey

As much as i want to correct my rookies. I am holding firm on my trades this week and then bang bang out the unwanted rookies in the cows next week.

sharmanism

Trade early, trade often 🙂

TRIGGER HAPPY

Yes and no. Horses for courses. Injured -yes.

Canny the Manny

What to do with Jono Simpkin? Very stiff to miss out on selection this round, I'm thinking hold him for at least this round.

Sarah

Who've you got for cover?

derek

i must say i was very surprised to see him miss. there might be other reasons. he should be back pretty soon.

Canny the Manny

I've got plenty of cover. His DPP status means I can swap him to the midfield with Menadue. I'm not forced to make any trades at this point.

Sarah

I'd be inclined to hold on to him for a week then.

Canny the Manny

Yeah, I don't see him being left out of the side permanently. Cheers folks.

Maybe baby

I know we shouldn't trade our premiums but hear me out on this one.

Fyfe just doesn't look right to me looks to be carrying an injury. Half a mattress on his leg at the end of the game didn't allay any fears.

So was thinking of going Fyfe to Priddus. Think they will score around the same and Priddus is in ripping form.

Got danger and god.

Will.need to do probably 2 corrective trades before Rd 3 for rooks so with the extra $60k can now go Gresham or Mccarthy via DPP for either Mills, Oliver, or Parish.depends how they go this week.

One of those 3 will be M8, Kennedy moves into the fwd line at F6 and mendaue moves onto the bench?

azza

hold fyfe for another week atleast to see how he performs with sandy back

derek

Fyfe at home to Suns OR Priddis away to the hawks…..hmmmmm. i'd wait a week!

Maybe baby

Look what danger did to the Hawks who don't tag. Nic Nat will kill the hawk rucks priddus could run riot.

Maybe baby

And didn't u say in an earlier post get your rookies right? This will do that!

Derek

Get rookies right I mean, non playing 117k to a playing 117k rookie

Derek

Fyfe on one leg will still be your M8. You just don't trade premiums. Get Priddis in a few weeks once you have culled some cash cows

Kev

Point chasing 101

BigHaydos

who to put as captain……

robbie gray
matt priddis
goldstein
ablett
selwood

Chill

Ablett averages 140 something from last 3 games agains Freo

BigHaydos

this is not true at all. unless your taking scores dating back to 2011 which makes no sense.

Ethan017

Priddis

Stewy-theSwan

Goldy

@DanielFisher

Toss a coin between Goldmember and Gazza

Ethan017

If your going to trade out Greene for anyone it should be Zach Merrett
114 in round 1 and is guaranteed midfield minutes. With Bird and Simpkin out that leaves him as third best midfielder only behind BJ and Zarahakis is a seriously good young footballer entering his third season now. Needs to be considered before he breaks 500k

HOLLA

Looking for a vc loop. Gawn or viney?

@DanielFisher

Gawn. Beastman.

HOLLA

Gawn will deadset dominate BUT nothing wrong with a smokey as vc. Had a.hole i mean a.hall as vc last week and scored 129 though i did roll the dice and go danger. Winner!

Asho

JSteele –> Kennedy — LOCKED IN

Stuck on a potential 2nd trade…….
Mills –> Libba
Seedsman –> JJ
Seedsman –> Weitering + 300k for upgrades

Scouser

I'd only look at the Seedsman trades out of those asho, shouldn't be much if any difference in mills-libba cash/points and mills should score well enough. Also think your psychology ought be playing with you as well though as the difference between JJ & weitering is only $200k

tophawk

If you are determined to use your 2 trades this round it would be Steele to Kennedy and Seedsman to Weitering. Grab those rookies first before upgrading. The 300K will then be handy for later upgrades etc. Most importantly you have locked in two crucial cash cows.

Remember that trades are like gold, especially at thee back end of the year, but in this case, these two trades have good strategic purpose. Cheers

Nicholas

Greene is driving me crazy

Wattsieesq

Jack Steele dropped, Toby Greene plays!

Jack

Thinking of bringing in Oliver for B. Crouch and using the cash to upgrade sidebottom to danger. Thoughts?

Wattsieesq

I like it. People will tell you to hold, but as the Crouching One says"trade ass off"

Scouser

I'm holding crouch Jack, he did alright 1st game back and when his efficiency lifts so will his scores, ran @ 55% last week and normally hits around 70%. I'd also hold sideburn assuming you can cover him.

Jack

Nothing against crouch, just think Oliver is likely to generate more coin from his starting price. And the prospect of being able to slot dangerfield in is mighty tempting.

BigHaydos

im not sure the melbourne boy can produce good output everyweek whereas brad crouch will make you coin and points.

Dangerfield is a must have, but i think your not helping yourself, trading 2 potential keepers for a gun and a rookie who may not generate as much cash as you would assume

just my thoughts mate

Wattsieesq

All Sydney rookies keep their spots

Ruffles

Love the simpsons references Patch. Keep it up!

Derek

Making cash this year is going to take some skill and luck. There isn't as many cheap rookie options, but the ones that do play should make good cash because there is no sub vest.

There will be a few second lot of rookies come along, Petracca, rice, menagola , but not many.

As a result the way to get to full premium will be to buy well. Have a shopping list of who you want and only get them at their cheapest.

Will this be the cheapest Luke Parker will be this year….. Maybe?

Have a look at the fluctayions in players during the year, even the ultra premos have a down period.

I won't be buying any premium for more than their starting price and will be taking a lot more interest in players upcoming games and how they have gone against teams in past.

BigHaydos

nice write up Derek, definitely good advice

MaccasMarvels

Yeah, Parker at 538K is cheap innit?! Another +100 and he'll jump by $40K or so…..?

Derek

Not on my shopping list so don't care

Sloane is looking at what he might drop to, under $550k, but then crows have a great second half

Phil

All this talk about Pendles being injured makes me think…I can see him going large tonight! Always happens to champions.

sharmanism

Steele omitted by GWS so I've punted him for BenKen and upgraded Hunter to Parker.

Ben

Should I trade Scott Pendlebury for another premo?
I've already got Danger and Fyfe

BigHaydos

scott Pendlebury has been a monolith in the supercoach world for years. he had a score of 80 and you want him gone? this is insanity. He will be a top 8 midfielder by season end and i would be extremely surprised if he wasnt a top4 mid. the guy is a ball magnet and uses it better then 95% of players in AFL.

Greg

Do I trade Leuenberger to Kennedy to get money for possible corrective trades next week?

Moz

HOLD

Phil

Hold the Burger for now, McKernans dropped so not sure who backs Him up in the ruck, so he should get a real good go at it.

Scouser

Which Swans rookie would you put on field community, Mills or Hewett? I'm preferring Hewett at this stage, better kick to hb ratio and looks like he may be a tackle beast. Cheers

Bobby Singh

Quick question lads,

Gresham or Hewett on the field?

BloodyFranklin

If you have to choose I would go with Hewett.

The Ranger

Hehehe….nice one Patch. Loving the new Captain A- mare- rica/A- meh-rica (which is it?!) slot.

And Community, if your question starts with…

Should I trade…
I'm thinking of trading…
Which trade should i…

The answer is no. Not unless he's on the long term injury list.
Welcome.

BCHawks

Greene is named to play!

BCHawks

Still can't decide who to play on field Menadue or Hewett. Keep changing but will probably go with Hewett seeing Sydney are playing Carlton.

Cman

Hi all,

I still don't fully understand the captains loophole! I kinda get it but do i need to have my VC and C playing on the same line or can i have my VC as a ruck and my C as a mid?? If my VC performs strongly then i select my C as a non player in the same line??

Is there a link somewhere that explains it thoroughly????

Kev

Google "captains loophole supercoach"

Kimmyd

Hey cman, your bc and capt can be from any line mate. For the loophole to work you need to have player than definitely will not play at all. I have goetz a ruck from doggies who won't play at all this year. I have put max Gawn as my vc goetz on field with capt on him and goldy on the bench as emergency. If max Gawn scores over 125 I leave everything as it is. However, if Gawn score say 90 then I will swap goetz with goldy now back on the field and probably make him capt or Dangerfield as both play later than gawn. For the loophole to work though you a) need a non scoring player and b) the non scoring player needs to play after your vc but also before your back up captain. I purposely got in goetz from doggies as doggies play a lot of sat arvo/night and Sunday games, hence great for loophole my rucks. It sounds a little confusing I know but it can work very well if you know how to use it effectively. It requires a good knowledge of the draw though and quite a few super coaches don't think that far ahead or plan for the byes for that matter.

Kimmyd

Should read vc in the first line, stupid auto correct!

Kimmyd

Sorry I forgot to mention that if Gawn scores well, say 140, the way the loophole works is because goetz will not play he will score 0. However, as long as you have remembered to make your other ruckman (goldy) for me as your emergency you will still get his score. Because goetz scored 0 as your captain it will then take your vc's score as your captain so your vc scores double. It will only add that score on after goetz has played thoug and your ruck emergency also.

Scooter

Do i hold mitch robinson ?
Or trade for Aaron Hall ?
Help please

tophawk

Who on field between Mills and Menadue? Bloody tough one. I am leaning to Mills on field with Menadue as an E. No loophole in my mid field. Or I could flick Menadue to my forward line and name as an E and the Loersch then being the loophole option. Kerridge would then be in the midfield. Then I would play Kerridge over Mills. Tricky one. I am leaning to Menadue in the midfield as an E with Mills playing without the opportunity to loophole Menadue's score there.
Any arguments to do things differently very welcome!

Cheers

Dean

Evening community just a query…

My non players this week are Grimley & Wyatt

Should I throw the VC on Rance and hope, then have the C on either Dangerfield or NicNat.

Or do I just throw the VC on Ablett and the C on either Danger or NicNat just in case one of my other players is a late out that will allow me to use the loophole, even though its highly unlikely.

Thoughts community?

tophawk

I would whack the VC on a player which plays early in the round which you objectively think will pump out the biggest score vs your original Captain pick, which in my case is Patrick Dangerfield. It is always tempting to whack the VC on a Friday night player as it adds a bit of excitement. But more often that not, it back fires. I could whack the VC on Dusty tonight and it could be a winning move, but for me I am tossing up throwing the VC on Max Gawn who plays a virtually ruckless Essendon or Nat Fyfe who could come back big on Saturday night at home and Sandi back in the side.

Stick to the percentages. Defenders generally generate lower scores, so generally it is better to stick with midfielders. Having said that now, Rance will pump out a 160 tonight and you will be baying for my blood!!!
Cheers mate

Tulendeena

He doesn't have a 0 to chuck the C on

Sadly, I can't loophole this round, and just have to go for Gaz as captain

Tom

what do i do with steele do I trade to someone like de goey, downgrade to a rookie or keep as a loophole for gaz onto danger and reassess next week?

Dean

yes keep as loophole that is worth GOLD

FootyFanatic

I'd trade him, there's no point using a 300K player as a loophole. You should be looking to trade in a rookie or a premium, not a mid priced player.

Dean

HAVING the opportunity to pick from GAJ & Danger basically guarantees Tom that he will end up with a very high scoring captain.

I wish one of my rookies or mid pricers were dropped to give me that flexibility of choosing between GAJ or Danger, very few coaches will have this opportunity.

Trade Steele next week.

FootyFanatic

I agree with you Dean that having a loophole player is very beneficial, I have Korchech as mine who is a bottom priced rookie who I have at R3. But having 300K sitting on the pine just for a loophole is a waste of money in my view when you can have a cheap rookie that will provide the same benefit.

Nicholas

Decided im going to hold on to greene for this week as he is playing.
Now onto another matter, should i put menadue or kerridge onfield in my forward line and mills or hewett in midfield.
Thanks community for any help

Dean

bloody tough call mate flip a coin. For what its worth I have Menadue playing in my forward line and Mills also playing in my midfield along with Kerridge also in my midfield. With Dunkley in my Mid as my Emergency and McCarthy as my Emergency in my forward.

Sorry I couldn't be more specific mate.

tophawk

Mills is my M8 and I have Menadue, Gresham, and Davis as my mid bench. So I will have to roll the dice between Mills and Menadue. I just think Mills is more likely to pump out a bigger score than Menadue on any given week, despite that not being the case last round. Kerridge and B.Kennedy have to be on field in my forward line. But Mitch Brown plays early tomorrow as an E so I still have that up my sleeve with Mc Carthy and Loersch tomorrow. If Menadue goes big tonight then thats stiff sh-it . I got his 80 last week after loopholing his score, but missed out on Kennedy. But that is how it goes. Cheers Dean!

Pap Smear

Not sure if anyone knows yet…..but Pendels a late out!

Dean

You are a F****** inept fool who clearly has no life. Don't give others fake information.

You come across as having very little attention as a child and a low self esteem. It wouldn't surprise me at all if you were one of those bullies behind your PC and a gutless coward in front of people.

GROW UP FOOL.

Pap Smear

LOL APRIL FOOLS! LOL

WELCOME

I pity the April Fool, who is still attempting to prank people after NOON… Clearly you are just a kid with very little knowledge.

Pap Smear

; )

CaPtKaOs

Agree 100 percent. Spreading garbage like that right before a game is as lpw as it gets.

tophawk

I agree Dean. That prat "Pap Smear" is trying to use April Fools day as an excuse to throw coaches off their game by spewing out BS.

Terry

Can someone tell me if you can reverse trades this year in SuperCoach. I can't find how to do it

Dean

you can mate on the far left hand side it says "Reverse changes" however once the round starts as it has you cannot reverse trades.

tophawk

Ooops. I hope Terry didnt trade out Pendles and wants him back again. LOL

Terry

No don't have him! Thanks guys, will try that. Hope I can still change as none are playing tonight

tophawk

LOL. Sorry Terry. I was just stirring.

Kev

Once the round has started you can't reverse, regardless if you've got no one playing tonight

Luke

If you are on a mobile it's that weird filter button down the bottom right. Brings up reverse trade, byes etc. Or on desktop it's on the team page on left hand side.

tophawk

Scott Pendlebury has come out with 13 disposals in the first quarter for 40 SC points. Is mr Dependlebury back? He looks really sharp early.

WELCOME

Yeah and done very little in the 2nd quarter.

tophawk

59 SC POINTS AT HALF TIME…..AHHHHHH WELCOME!!!

Dean

I feel for those who traded out Pendlebury for whoever, he has leather poisoning from the 1st Quarter… Pendles on 41 after first quarter.

Northernsoul74

Have to question supercoach scoring sometimes when just chipping it around down back can rack up a score like that.

WELCOME

This is a very sloppy game, if these two teams continue playing like this they wont make top 12 – Its a shocker of a game, comedy of errors.

Hawks

Agreed, shocking game, tempted to change the TV channel, only SC keeps me watching tonight.

Dee

100%

HOLLA

5 collingwood defs make up the top 6 collingwood sc scores to hlf time. Treloar,adams,de goey???

Dee

does anyone know what Houli's halftime SC score is?

Grahame Lebroy

It was 57 and he is now top scorer with 73

BloodyFranklin

Richmond are shaking like dog shitting razorblades right now. Hunt especially.

Cozza

Hunt was terrible – be surprised if we see him again in the short term at least

WELCOME

Why the hell has Buckly got Pendles playing full back. I feel for all the pendles owners.

tophawk

AHHHHH…. Welcome! Pendles has 97 SC point now. He bloody gun!

FootyFanatic

Finished with 103 (pre scaling), was on track for a much larger score

Grahame Lebroy

The Dusty fend off is great to watch. Is it worth any points?

Dee

is a smother or spoil worth any points?

Michael

Dusty punishing the doubters

hedski

What a finish!!!!!

Dee

Menadue 59? Get fukkkkkt…. Glad Houli smashed it out with 117, deserved more actually…. Happy with Pendles 103 as well, specially carrying that obvious injury…. 279 from 3 on the field. #DIVINEFC

WELCOME

That was a shocking game, no skill at all. The Tigers can blame Race for that loss. lol

Cozza

Had the VC on Martin – 134 – thinking I'll take that. Thanks Dusty

@randomcliche

VC Pendles with 110 after equalisation. To use the loophole or leave it with Fyfe?

Luviboy1

I would be looking for a bit more out of a VC option, 125-130 at least. Look for Fyfe to bounce back against Gold Coast with Sandi back this week.

Derek

I agree. At quarter time it was put down the glasses, but 110 isn't good enough. I'll be going with Fyfe

@randomcliche

Thanks Lboy, turned out a treat!

Scouser

yeah agree RC it was worth the gamble and boy did it look good at quarter time but not enough for me I'll be swinging to danger myself but Fyfe a great option also, should bounce back well with sandiballs back.

@randomcliche

Bad luck re: the Dangerman, but thanks for the advice!

Paulie Walnuts

Had the VC on Dusty – 134 I will put the C on Petracca, put him on the field and take Menadues – 63 also at the same time, I feel this would be a the safe thing to do with anyone who scores over 130 and a rookies 63 at M8

Derek

I dunno. Take Menadue or give Gresham a run?

Brett

looks like the jack steele experiment has backfired miserably !! corrective trade number 1 —> B Kennedy

Dee

I started off with Martin in me bloody team…. until I listened to Jock to not put him in. You're in shocking form Jock….. so called father of fantasy, how did you get that name anyways? loll…. I still love you tho mate!

Slats

Do I take Menadue's 63 or leave Papley on field against the blues? Things to ponder!!

Phil

I'd probably take that. Personally, I've got that 63 vs Hartley, whoever scores the least I'll swing Adams into that position and take the higher score. Ahhhh DPP at its best.

Adrian

Take Dusty's 134??? Happy banking that away as a captains score even though Danger/Priddis have the potential to go big.

Youngy

Take 134.

The 130+ rule

hedski

Thanks to the wisdoms of the community I have decided to give spitta greene another run this week even tho he is playing my cats and I hope he doesn't get a kick. Thanks for saving me a precious trade 😉
Ok I have petracca at m8 atm with menadue emergency at m9.
1- take the 63 points
2- play Davis (former wafl player used to perth conditions although freo will be out for blood)
3- play Gresham
4- swap petracca fwd swing kerridge mid and play little Abe Lincoln McCarthy (could also play brown/tippa there but meh)
Any way guys/gals opinions appreciated cheers

Scouser

I'd give Gresham a run hedski mate, he looks the business and if he gets going could go close to a ton. Can't see him doing worse than last week so much diff to the 63 you currently hold if that's how it falls.

hedski

Thanks Scouser I missed game the other day but I've heard good things bout Gresh.
Been fairly tight games between saints and doggies last few years so def 1 to think about cheers mate.

CarlaShirly

I don't have Pendlebury (yet) but he was on track for a 135-140 score. Was off the ground in last qtr for 10 mins and played a lot of time down back all game to still get 110. He is a gun but his chance to score over 130 tonight is something I reckon won't happen too often this year for Pendles.
Anyone reckon his ceiling is a bit lower this year?

T man

His playing a loose man on the back and racked up about 12 touches in the first quarter. He was moved into the middle in the last quarter and I think he only had about 3 touches in the 2nd quarter. Looked like they were giving him lengthy rests during the game,maybe a niggle. I have him, and i'll keep him as his a superstar but i'd wait for his price to drop. Reckon he'll get under 600k and people should jump on him.
Just my opinion.

CarlaShirly

No doubt he is a star and yeah like me others will be waiting if he does go under or around 600k you won't get him much cheaper that 590k I reckon

Brook

I had him and traded him out last night before the game for GAJ. I know its a risky move but he averages 10-15 points less witbout Swan in the team and reportedley has sore ribs. I was cursing the move at 1/4 time but I am hoping the trade will net me 70-100 extra points over the next eight weeks and I hope to get him back in at around 550k in R9 or 10. Just cant see Ablett getting that cheap. Wont know if its a good move for a few weeks but hoping it works out.

Phil