PODCAST: Ye of little faith

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Supercoach post round 1 podcast


I summonsed the SC Gods over the week and yes, I copped a serve. Fear not, I am sticking fat with my decision to go Ablett-less and I implore all of you guys to do the same – stuck to your guns and back yourself in. One week doesn’t make a pooftank swallow’s spring fart of difference. Stay cool, be cool and the riches of Fantasy Gold await.

This week;

We give you all that you need to know about getting down to your local venue to play CoachKings this week!

We look at some of the spuds like Barlow, Pendles and Green and clear your path to glory.

We outline all of the Rookie “must haves” to set up your cash generation for the season.

Important announcement re the roll out of CoachKings to venues over the next few weeks (see fixtures and venue list for Round 2 below)

Sit back, chuck the old earphone bud things in your ear and enjoy this week’s crucial trouser defining podcast.


(SA Venues have the Adelaide v Port Adelaide game as the first of the double header games on Saturday)

Coach Kings Victorian Round 2 Fixture



Hotel Barkly – St Kilda
Doyles Bridge Hotel – Mordialloc
Trios Sports Club – Cranbourne
The Wonthaggi Club – Wonthaggi
Caledonian Hotel – Wonthaggi


Torrens Arms Hotel – Kingswood
The Morphett Arms Hotel – Glengowrie
Arkaba Hotel – Fullarton
Warradale Hotel – Warradale
Renmark Club – Up on the Murray in Renmark



Cam · 29/03/2016 at 17:05

In Ablett we trust

Bakx · 29/03/2016 at 17:09

Pretty happy with my mid 2300s score considering the likes of Greene and Fyfe spudded up… Hindsight is a horrible thing, as up until the final week of the preseason I had Ward and Johanissen (260ish combined) in my team, whereas just before the lockout I traded them out for Fyfe and Greene (110is combined)… Had I stuck with my guns I would have reached 2500!

    Cam · 29/03/2016 at 17:16

    If there is a lesson to learn, last minute panic reactions come back to bite you in the ass. There is a reason you have a dude in your team come 1 week before the season starts, stay strong and don't get sucked in by hype at the last minute

      Cam · 29/03/2016 at 18:31

      Haha, my last minute "11th hour" panic move was against my instincts and research and dropped Mitch Robinson to put Ablett back in the guts. Considering SOG's game and Mitch's injury I think it panned out alright…

        Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 19:59

        'Panic move was go with my instincts and against my research'

        Fixed above comment for you.

        Great swap. So far anyway………Hope Ablett's body holds up for yours and my sake.

          Cam · 30/03/2016 at 12:20

          actually, it was the other way around!

          Through the guts I was picking robust, durable players. I don't care about average scores, it's the season total that matters. That's why I'd argue Pendlebury has probably been the best SC player as his last 5 seasons he's ranked 1st (22 games), 20th (18 games), 1st (22 games), 2nd (21 games) and 1st (22 games) for total points scored.

          Ablett's injury history scares me and most of Robinson's time off is due to suspension but I think being in the leadership group and a B&F winner at Brisbane might help clear that up. His last 7 games in 2015 he averaged about 119… but got Ablett-FOMO and booted Mitch for his holiness. Worked out ok so far but still looking to bring in the rednut at some stage.

    Kev · 29/03/2016 at 17:19

    Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Last 10 or so days of preseason I switched between and gnr defence and a midprice one. A midprice one would have been better off this week but I'm not gonna trade Shaw and Laird just because they weren't the best. Long way to go

      Dan · 30/03/2016 at 01:27

      Positive is Shaw had 30 possies…just shite DE in a losing team.

    @lewiswgrant · 29/03/2016 at 18:28

    First one out of the stadium doesn't always win the marathon. We all have similiar stories – plenty of options which creates that uncertainty. Be confident in your research and it will pay off.

    Puck Jump · 30/03/2016 at 11:04

    Jocks last minute podcast about trading out JJ for Suckling absolutely convinced me to do the same and I have to admit to having feelings of rage at my last minute panic over the gut trust move. I'm shattered actually. Terrible words from Jock in the last hours pre-lockout that have rendered me disgruntled…

Tom · 29/03/2016 at 17:09

I know its only round 1 but im seriously thinking JJ is going to be a must have in defence especially with the doggies next 7 games at etihad

Im thinking Boyd to JJ and Harwood to Brodie Smith. It looks like madness but Harwood's score 37 means he isnt playing the rebounding defensive role i thought he would and I think I need tog et rid of him before he burns me some more.

    Kev · 29/03/2016 at 17:16

    Understand your thinking Tom but not harm in waiting an extra week. JJ might get a forward tag this week

      Bill · 29/03/2016 at 17:52

      No such thing as a forward tag anymore Kev. Dont remember the last time Ive seen it

        Hazey · 29/03/2016 at 22:42

        Used to be called manning up back in the day. Now no one does it 🙁

      Dan · 29/03/2016 at 23:36

      Agreed. One more week before the price rise.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:01

    Really depends on your situation. If you have major repairs to do on your team, like crap rookies, a few failing mid pricers then you may have to move quickly.

    If you don't feel you are in a bad situation it is far superior to wait another week. One score in SC means nothing.

    Rawkus11 · 30/03/2016 at 10:30

    If JJ can go large again next round and if Houli spuds it up again and Weitering scores 80+ next week i'm an outside chance of going Houli to JJ and Ruggles to Weit.
    Provided my team is still injury free

    rosy · 30/03/2016 at 10:39

    I'm worried about JJ when he gets tagged. He looks fantastic right now but that's because opposition coaches have ignored him. Can he handle the extra attention when they realise he is the key half-back runner?

    We'll know soon. Hope he does well.

      Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 18:45

      Tagger can't catch him.

Kang Van Der Bang · 29/03/2016 at 17:12

Community. Thoughts on Rockliff – If I can make 2 trades which would result in an upgrade to Dangerfield – is it worth it?

My score was 2200+

    Cam · 29/03/2016 at 17:18

    2 trades down already is dangerous, a round 2 injury could rule this a complete waste of a trade as there is no price change this week

    Dools · 29/03/2016 at 18:05

    bad bad move, Kang, premiums are for the season….

    judd0 · 29/03/2016 at 19:46

    Yeah mate go for it, then just make sure you reverse it before Friday night.
    That way you'll get to feel better because you made the trades and you won't be wasting your trades on a silly move after rd 1.

    Craig · 29/03/2016 at 20:55

    No, you want to pick up Danger later on after he's had a couple of quiet weeks, if he has them, when his price has dropped a bit.

    Ricky's 89 wasn't a complete disaster anyway, and you still reached 2200 which is maybe a little under par, I hit 2214, and that wasn't a disaster either.

    Anyway, you don't trade after round 1 in any case beause there are no price changes yet. Wait to use your first two trades on corrections or the best rookies.

      Craig · 29/03/2016 at 20:56

      ** Rocky

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:14

    Rocky hurt his wrist and still got 89, and is said to be fine for next game.

    Enough said.

    Bowski · 30/03/2016 at 01:11

    Rocky is a gun & hadn't played a preseason game and still scored 89. He'll be back up over 120's in no time

@rileyflanigan24 · 29/03/2016 at 17:29

Last minute switch from Danger to Fyfe for Captain, now waiting to watch Fyfe score 150+ while I have the C on Danger this week
That's supercoach for ya

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 29/03/2016 at 17:40

    Gotta remeber he wont score 160 week after week.
    or will he…? =D

    Its Selwood's turn this week

      Lachie · 31/03/2016 at 14:43

      Selwood sucks tho

TJD · 29/03/2016 at 17:47

Anyone else have Fyfe captain and couldn't loophole bcoz all rookies played ? Bloody 2020 :((

Mitch McGovern to Papley . Waste of trade or worth it ??

    Tony · 29/03/2016 at 17:56

    As a North supporter, I was pretty impressed with McGovern on Saturday. I think he probably has pretty good JS, which is half the battle with rookies. Can't see the Sydney rookies keeping up the same standard – Collingwood were horrendous.

    Bill · 29/03/2016 at 17:56

    Probably not worth it, the Smear will put up 50s most weeks and JS probably isnt as good. Id hold unless he goes big again next week then ride his price rise.

    John Hines · 29/03/2016 at 18:16

    Wait on the teams on Thursday night then make a decision

    TJD · 29/03/2016 at 19:05

    Thanks lads

    sambochristie · 29/03/2016 at 19:17

    If you're going to make this trade, wait until next week. Prices don't change until the conclusion of round 3.

    A lot can play out in one week.

      Big Fella · 30/03/2016 at 12:55

      Smart thinking

    Daniel · 30/03/2016 at 09:43

    I did that exact trade this week, plus I have the other 2 Sydney boys already

Pman35 · 29/03/2016 at 18:04

As always superb work Jock and boys, am hoping for some advice from the community. I agonised over Sidebottom and Treloar all summer and with Sidey in the end whose gone and managed to get himself rubbed out for 2 weeks. I'm a big fan of Sidey and had him last year and he burnt me in Rd 1 (again!) by breaking his thumb and missing the next 8. Once bitten, twice shy….is it wrong to rage trade Sidebottom for Treloar or Luke Parker? Don't want to be playing a bench player in first week of head to head either so bit torn on what to do. Thoughts?

    @emhoy · 29/03/2016 at 18:14

    I would keep Sidey he is only out for 2 weeks and we have some nice bench mid/fwd rookies who can cover. Trades are gold and you should only trade premiums for Long term injuries.

      Pman35 · 29/03/2016 at 18:50

      Sound advice, will hold and will wait and see the lay of the land after Rd 2…Cheers.

Balls · 29/03/2016 at 18:13

If Greene spuds it up again next week is he certain goner? And who are viable replacement options

    Randomclcihe · 29/03/2016 at 20:42

    Green the butcher. You made your bed now lay in it. Rage trade at your peril. If your team looks great have 15 keepers (sans butcher) and smear is named with BE of -100 and you don't have him then maybe. Otherwise it's best you fully appreciate the beautiful quote about farts from jock.

    Patch · 29/03/2016 at 21:22

    Hold this week, but if he again plays like a potato I'd kick him out the park. Aaron Hall a lock if you don't have him, Sam Gray putting his hand up. And – if he tons up again next week in another shellacking – Zach Merrett will be making significant moves to ender my side.

    CoachDamo · 29/03/2016 at 21:27

    Patch is right, give him another chance. Even if he only scores 75 this week, have some patience. That being said, if he comes out with 30 points next week then Sam Gray might be a good option (if you don't have Hall).

    Falcon · 30/03/2016 at 11:54

    Im worried because he looked go tag tyson and viney
    snd the have geelong this week

    Shezza · 31/03/2016 at 04:41

    S Gray. He played high forward – mid role and is an accumulator

John Hines · 29/03/2016 at 18:14

My only concern is Jack Steele I'm not sure if he's in GWS best 22 should I trade him out for Wells or hold my nerve??

    Beagz · 29/03/2016 at 18:25

    He's a better player than he showed this week. I was very close to having him in my team but a last minute restructure saw me drop him. I still want him in just not sure at what point. I would say he'd be extremely unlucky to get pushed out of the best 22.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 19:52

    Jack Steele wasn't the only one who under performed. He has a lot of potential surely he'll be in the team next week.

    If he's not named then maybe there's a case for trading.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 19:54

    If jack steele gets his projected 61, then his BE will be 80, not exactly in any dire situation.

    I can see him getting 80+ next week.

      Holty · 29/03/2016 at 20:47

      agree. I just hope Greene keeps spudding it up so Steele can play more time in the middle

John Hines · 29/03/2016 at 18:18

I can't believe that Fyfe is the second most traded out player it's a total waste of a trade always stick with your premos even if they have a shit game

    Beagz · 29/03/2016 at 18:25

    I started with no fyfe and no ablett and won't be changing based on this round. Can't understand messing with your premos after 1 bloody game.

Beagz · 29/03/2016 at 18:27

All aboard the jj train!?

I managed to wrangle a 13th placed score this week after a last minute restructure saw me get rid of the bulldog and change other lines. Now I'm wondering if it was the right move long term!

I would advise patience around the young bloke. Give him another few games and if he keeps going the way it looks get him in!!

    jockreynolds · 29/03/2016 at 18:31

    Is that a 13th ranked overall old mate? Either way – love what you're slapping down here tonight about JJ. Just watch him.

      Beagz · 29/03/2016 at 18:38

      13th over a jock! Managed to knock out a 2493. Not expecting that every week but if that's the upper of my starting team than I'm happy to only play with rookies and bench for the first 6 or 7 rounds. Then re evaluate who looks to be like a keeper this year.

        Beagz · 29/03/2016 at 18:38

        Overall *

        jockreynolds · 29/03/2016 at 18:43

        BANG!!! GREAT stuff Beagz!

@grayson_lowee · 29/03/2016 at 18:28

Great stuff fellas, as always. My advice to everybody here is to keep calm and trust in your premiums, and DONT make any rage trades, I.E trade out a player because he had one bad week. For me i think you should wait until halfway through the season to make any sideways trades (if any)

    jockreynolds · 29/03/2016 at 18:30

    Sound Advice grayson. great to have you onboard mate

mark · 29/03/2016 at 18:37

Should I trade out McGovern for JJ

    Sana · 29/03/2016 at 18:44

    See advice above mate

    sambochristie · 29/03/2016 at 19:30

    A potential factor here is if McGovern misses. I don't think he trained today, he's got a test later this week. I think he'll be alright though. If he is alright, back him in mate. You picked him for a reason.

Tiges · 29/03/2016 at 18:47

Must HOLD your nerves this week community. Keep an eye on the rookies once they're on the bubble, if Papley explodes he could be worth a correction trade this week. However, I still don't think his JS is good enough with a few senior players yet to return.

I'm only playing the waiting game with Robinson and his calf niggle, hopefully he comes out and destroys North this weekend!

    Northerner · 29/03/2016 at 19:08

    In a side that got smashed, Robinson was looking OK until he went off for the whole of the last quarter just as the game opened up a bit and he would have added 25ish to his score and no one would be questioning him

      Tiges · 29/03/2016 at 19:10

      Great point! Thought he was going pretty well,just had poor disposal efficiency, hopefully the team goes a bit better this week and he comes out and gets 110+

        Simmo6 · 29/03/2016 at 22:21

        Missing 1-2.. Did look good up till his injury.. Will you hold?

Average Joe · 29/03/2016 at 19:00

Brad Crouch + Ruggles —-> B Kennedy + C Oliver???

I know Crouch will play better as the season progresses but kennedy and oliver are both looking the goods, and together those two should make more money than crouch and ruggles. Thoughts?

    Tiges · 29/03/2016 at 19:11

    Don't know how you've missed the boat on both of those picks but depending how your team looks this week, I'd wait one more week.

    Although if you don't have Kennedy in your team, won't be going anywhere this season IMO. One of the better cheaper picks

      Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 19:46

      You say it like Oliver was and is a guaranteed lock? It's been one round…………..

      He could easily be dropped by melbourne for Angus Brayshaw or Petracca then you have a 200k rookie with no job security.

        Randomclcihe · 29/03/2016 at 20:53

        Kennedy looking good, but I'd reckon b crouch will outscore him or oliver. You can pick every 200k player who bolts or team would end up a pile of stink because you'd have no premos. Crouch might yet become a keeper. You could me the case for either of the two Essendon 200kish players that did okay. Just ask yourself how it best makes you get to full premo and cover injury trades and you'll see light.

        Benjamima Puddleduck · 30/03/2016 at 00:08

        Will be more like he will play VFL when Brayshaw and Petracca are ready to slot back into the side.

    Baggy Pants · 29/03/2016 at 20:51

    I would stick with Ruggles for a little longer he played well in a practice match on the weekend. 28 disposals and 12 marks. Until he gets named use him to loophole.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 30/03/2016 at 09:13

      That's exactly what I am doing as wyatt is my loop but first two rounds woods play early so using Ruggles.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:18

    How would you trade a mid and a defender for a mid/fwd and a mid anyway?


      Average Joe · 29/03/2016 at 21:24

      you swap a dpp fwd/def player (like m adams, m brown or tippa) from fwd to def

        Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:29

        Ah of course. Brain failing.

    CoachDamo · 29/03/2016 at 21:21

    Kennedy should be in your team but it's too soon to trade out Brad Crouch. Keep in mind he started slowly, hardly touched the ball in the first half but finished the game really well. He should get better so I'm not sure why you'd trade him out.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 30/03/2016 at 09:15

      Yeah crouch hasn't played afl for over a year just took a while to pick up the tempo. Was rusty will b better for the run and will steadily improve.

Sana · 29/03/2016 at 19:01

Gresham got better JS than Hewett community?

    Tiges · 29/03/2016 at 19:12

    Nope. 50/50 to be dropped this week IMO, Hewett's performed well in the NAB and showed he can dance on the big stage, reckon his JS doesn't look too bad at all. Playing against Carlton this week so reckon all those rookie price players get another gig, hopefully he destroys it and locks away his JS.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 19:47

    Not a chance Gresham has better job security, doesn't matter if he's at a rebuilding club.

    Plus Hewett got drafted in 2013, he's ready to stay at AFL level if he performs.

Pinidu · 29/03/2016 at 19:06

Community, I currently have Parish at M8 but unfortunately didn't pick Ben Kennedy. If Kennedy gets another 80+ score this week, should I consider a correction trade in round 3?

Would love to catch yer thoughts as well Jock

    Tiges · 29/03/2016 at 19:13

    Hold this week but yes, strongly consider Kennedy. Kid could be the fattest cash cow of the lot.

    Dean · 29/03/2016 at 20:19

    yeah as you said wait this week, as I say your getting a free look at players in round 2. To answer your question though if Kennedy scores 60+ just bring him in once round 3 is named.

    Same with Pap smear.

    Baggy Pants · 29/03/2016 at 21:05

    Wait a week Pinidu. Parish had more disposals, marks and tackles than Kennedy his efficiency was down a little. Give him another week and see how he goes.

Northerner · 29/03/2016 at 19:08

Please everyone ignore the BreakEvens this week. The system uses an assumption that their week 2 score will be the same as their week 1 score.

That's the reason Fyfe is showing a 250+ breakeven. It will sort itself after this week's games. I suspect that's why people are trading him

    Juzzy · 29/03/2016 at 19:25

    Ta Northerner,

    Good info.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:32

    Unless it's using their projected 2nd week score?

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 30/03/2016 at 09:20

    If he punches out two 120's in the next two weeks I have him dropping $30-$35k with his 61 in Rd 1 then will go up again.

Juzzy · 29/03/2016 at 19:23

Good call community.

Hold off on the rage trades. Having said that … the only one I am worried about is Greene.
Based on his performance he should probably get dropped this week.
Still will hold. Trades are gold.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 19:42

    Based on a lot of GWS player's performances they should get dropped this week, but they won't.

    Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 20:20

    Greene isnt a premo, period!

    His performance was insipid and round 1 or not, he's not a midfielder's hind quarters.
    Goodbye Greene, hello Hall!

Hawks · 29/03/2016 at 19:25

Essendon rookie defenders were terrible, and I'm starting to think they won't get better. Thought they would be ok because the ball would be in Essendon's defence so much of the game, only problem was they got beaten so much.

Considering a downgrade from Fyfe to Ablett after round 2, and then an upgrade from Dea to Rich.

Thoughts please, I know Ablett won't play Essendon every week.

    Lazy_Simmo · 29/03/2016 at 20:20

    I've been thinking similar Hawks. They were bloody terrible and Dea @$180k ish will surely struggle to make any coin.
    I was thinking JJ over Rich with first 7 games on the speed track Etihad.
    Would Crouching say BANG BANG ?!!

      Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 22:01

      Patience, Dea will make money.

    Holty · 29/03/2016 at 21:35

    yeah i was saying that was always going to be the risk selecting them. When you are getting belted and the ball is in your defense all the time, you lose structure and all you want to do is stop your opponent from getting it. They simply will be to afraid to go get the ball in the fear their opponent will kick plenty of goals and they will be dropped for the next week. Unfortunately though, we dont have to many options in the backline so until another Adams comes along, we will just have to ride this train and hope.

      The Ranger · 29/03/2016 at 22:03

      I agree Holty, I'm worried about them but I'm holding them for another week.
      I went in with Brown and McDT so can swing them about to jump on another rook if one pops up for R3.
      And Hawks mate, hold Fyfe, as Jock said, one fig is not good.

REN · 29/03/2016 at 19:31

I started Shannon Hurn thinking he would be back to that rebounding defender like he showed in NAB but that doesnt look like the case.

Should I sideways trade to Smith/JJ or stick fat?

    Ethan · 29/03/2016 at 19:47

    dont waste trades

    Dean · 29/03/2016 at 20:27

    Why are u asking STUPID bloody questions, did you listen to the pod cast, or can't you read that everyone is answering this question for you 50 times before you asked it for the 51st time? Everyone in the pod cast, along with everyone typing on here have said numerous times N"O BLOODY SIDEWAYS TRADES" and just wait another week.

      REN · 29/03/2016 at 20:33

      Different situations with different players mate. Take a breather. Must have been a rough first round for you.. you made me laugh but

        Dan · 29/03/2016 at 23:33

        I agree with Dean. Barring injury, you don't trade round 1.

    Mr. Booby-buyer · 30/03/2016 at 01:16

    I guess it depends on the size of plum,
    common wisdom suggests that it's dumb,
    but r u a sheep or r u a shark?
    Does warm or cold blood run through your heart?

siri · 29/03/2016 at 19:40

Community….. what to do with Sidebum???

    BCHawks · 29/03/2016 at 19:54

    Depends who your other midfielders are but if you have the cash I would trade to Hannebery scored 100 from 2 and a bit quarters and looks the goods.

      siri · 29/03/2016 at 20:03

      Thanks hawk.
      I was going to see how rookies go before trading but unfortunately pies are playing friday night.

      Option 1 ablett
      Option 2 get anyother midfielder (hannes…..)

        SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 20:33

        Yes Gaz is the bigger priority I feel, if you can stretch to him. After that Parker, Hanners, Pridda, Ward and R.Gray all look fine alternatives but I would get Gazza in this week despite Jock's continuing reservations over the bald genius.

    SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 19:58

    Playing mainly for rank then trade but playing mainly for league titles then hold.

    Dean · 29/03/2016 at 20:28

    Thats a tough call, depending who you have to cover him?

BigHaydos · 29/03/2016 at 19:40

Everyone going mad about corrective trades has me laughing in my seat. It's round one, put some cold water on the slippah. No injuries? Keep on rolling.

My question though, who will the community be slapping the captaincy on this weekend? I know Ablett will be popular and that's fair enough, but I'm strongly considering putting the captaincy on big Goldstein or Max Gawn.

Goldy playing against the lions, could be a huge score and the same theory with Max Gawn playing against the bombers.

    BigHaydo · 29/03/2016 at 19:42

    Wanting to loophole but my only nonplaying player thus far is wyatt and he plays on Friday night!

    Foti186 · 29/03/2016 at 20:00

    Don't think godly will score the same against Martin. Stick with ablett IMO. If you have him

      Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:37

      Goldy scored 154 and 127 vs martin last year.

      Holty · 29/03/2016 at 21:48

      he scored 150+ both times last year against Martin.

    Dean · 29/03/2016 at 20:33

    Goldy against arguably the 3rd best ruckman in Martin, I think Goldy will score between 90 to 120 but doubt he will score 130+

    However that being said I can see Gawn scoring 130+

      Sana · 29/03/2016 at 21:43

      Martin is barely a top 10 ruck, he's only top 3 in SuperCoach scoring. Goldy will crush him

      Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:54

      Has Gawn ever rucked against Luenberger, will be interesting but hard to call scores right now. Luen when fit can match up pretty good against certain ruckmen.

      Seeing as Goldmember has scored 127 and 154 vs brisbane last year I'd say he clearly beats Martin.

      Goldie's score of 127 (39 HO) was against Luen and Martin, where Luen actually did quite well in the ruck with 33 hitouts, Martin 23.

      The score of 157 (37 HO) was also against Luen and Martin, Martin 22 hitouts, Luen 8.

      When two big lads like that can't stop him scoring big it's pretty obvious that Martin being the third best ruckmen is irrelevant to goldie's scoring.

      Anyway haydos imo ignore the naysayers and go with your gut (or the stats shown above), Goldy will more than likely kick Martin's ass.

        Bighaydos · 30/03/2016 at 07:54

        Yeah I think I might go with goldstien. If he is ever a target up forward he will take grabs as well. Simply because the lions have little amounts of tall timber in defence and I really think goldstien will have a big day out at the Gabba. I might be going to watch the game for my 24th birthday. See what happens. Go lions and go goldy! Haha

    Craig · 29/03/2016 at 21:35

    Danger against GWS must be strong in calculations to retain the C. Like Naitanui against McEvoy too. Going with the form I suppose.

      Sana · 29/03/2016 at 21:44

      Nic Nat in the Grand Final? 64… 1 good round does not a captain make

    Holty · 29/03/2016 at 21:43

    That's why we have Goldy. always put the vc or c on him.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 30/03/2016 at 09:25

    Hey haydos I'm thinking of going VC on Gawn and leaving the C on my now Perma capt in Danger.

      BigHaydos · 30/03/2016 at 16:26

      nice idea Trigger, hope it works out for you brother

RobDogs · 29/03/2016 at 19:42

Is there a Jock Reynolds group yet?

Great podcast gentlemen, is great to have the season underway now just hanging for the Head to Head starting. Woo Hoo, footy's back!

james · 29/03/2016 at 19:44

mitch robinson has been confirmed to miss 1-2 weeks with a calf injury
does this mean we trade?
source- lions fb page

    BCHawks · 29/03/2016 at 19:53

    I would can't see him averaging much over 95 even when he does come back. I either sideways to S.Gray or down to Hall if you don't have him.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:40

    Could be one week!

    Keep as you obviously have faith in him if you picked him.

    Randomclcihe · 29/03/2016 at 21:23

    Thanks for the update James. Got him in my side. I normally hold for 1 to 2 week issues. 3 to 4 normally starts my trading weapon. I've missed a couple of rookies though so I might have an easy out in a week or so.

BCHawks · 29/03/2016 at 19:50

Happy with my round 1 score of 2209 thanks to Danger as captain.
Almost scored as much in my draft team with 2164. Currently ranked 2nd overall not that it matters.
Loved the podcast the past 2 years I have wasted 2 trades so this week so I will be holding for sure.

    SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 20:07

    Yeah sure glad I didn't have to play Wild Hawks last weekend. We lock horns in Rd5.

@RoyWetard · 29/03/2016 at 19:58

The only decision I have this week is wether or not to keep Robinson. I have Petracca as a MID playing the loophole for Menadue and Hewett and my thinking is if Petracca plays this week then I'll keep Robbo and move Menadue into my FWD line and use Robbo as a Petracca/Hewett loophole but if Petracca doesn't play then I have 2 options. Move Menadue into the FWD line or trade him to S.Gray

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:06

    Moving this, loopholing that. Bloody hell just name a squad and stick to it!

    But seriously why bother now you have a donut where everyone else has a rookie profiting………………

    Mossy · 29/03/2016 at 20:38

    Petracca 2 more games in the VFL was the word that was getting around. Looks like a beast tho.

REN · 29/03/2016 at 20:02

is everyone jumping on Papley this week or waiting?

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:04

    It would be mighty foolish to jump on Papley this week and the SC gods will smite thee.

    SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 20:15

    Depends how your anticipate your trade situation playing out next week. If you think you could possibly have two other trades you may need to make elsewhere then could just pull the trigger now and hope he plays that 3rd game the following week.

    As well as he played last weekend he may only be one or two quiet games from getting dropped. But if he can hold his spot this week and McGlynn also comes in well that would be a pretty good sign and you could more comfortably take the risk on Paps this week.

    BKW · 29/03/2016 at 21:33

    Wait another week!

    tophawk · 29/03/2016 at 21:40

    I will be waiting another week. I always like to see a rookie's back up game. If he impresses again AND is named as a starter for round 3, then he is in. Unless you have dramas on other lines and need 3-4 trades to rectify these in the next two weeks, then you might have to risk putting him in this week. I have no injuries or major spuds so I am going to sit tight.


    Youngy · 29/03/2016 at 21:44

    most definetly waiting

jel · 29/03/2016 at 20:09

Managed a 2350 to start the season, very happy.
Is Fyfe under a bit of an injury cloud, or were Freo just collectively shit?

I'll be keeping a close eye on him in Round 2 and may go to GAJ if Gaz is still pumping out the scores.
Nothing else too drastic to cause trades this early.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:44

    When's he not under an injury cloud, only managed 18 games in 2014, and another 18 in 2015.

    Nah freo were just collectively shit, and didn't have sandilands.

    Wait, let me rephrase, Freo are collectively shit when they don't have sandilands.

      Holty · 29/03/2016 at 23:11

      agreed. watch this week with him back. all their mids will score 100+

    tophawk · 29/03/2016 at 21:47

    No need to hit the panic button as yet with Fyfe. However, if he puts in another really bad effort with another 60 odd, then I will need to also seriously consider getting Gaz for round 3, especially if he dominates again. And this one trade would also be for cash management purposes. Fyfe might drop 50K and Ablett rise by 30K after round 3. However, dont be surprised if the wolf man pumps out a 130+ next week. Just have to wait and see.

      jel · 29/03/2016 at 23:09

      Agreed, not rushing into anything yet, but planning options incase he spuds up again.

    chris · 30/03/2016 at 18:59

    Went to the game, they missed Sandi big time, l wouldn't be surprised Fyfe missing a few weeks, looked very sore

tom · 29/03/2016 at 20:10

have to make an injury trade this week i have 450k to get a mid who should i get
zaharakis who scored well in nab and last week and will play mostly mid and won't cop any tag
gibbs looked pain free scored well can he matin 100 avg till byes
or any mid under 450k

    Randomclcihe · 29/03/2016 at 21:26

    Don't have to spend it all. Gibbs most likely keeper imo but crouches will be better stepping stones.

    Dean · 30/03/2016 at 00:09

    Strongly consider Rich mate.

Shaq · 29/03/2016 at 20:13

People who are trading without any real reason e.g. injuries or long term suspensions, should really re evaluate there thoughts. If there's one thing I have learnt since joining SC 6 years ago, then it is to never I repeat never RAGE trade and in turn SIDEWAYS trade for another premo. All you are doing is burning up trades and trades are vital to a successful SC season. Especially come finals time!

    Randomclcihe · 29/03/2016 at 21:28

    Not only that you are locking yourself into a position below those who started the opposite combo. Then you get to rage trade back 3 weeks later locking your good self into a pile of misery wondering where it all went wrong and doing it all again next year.

Sarah · 29/03/2016 at 20:16

Hold your trades people!! It's only round 1!! 22 rounds to go! If you do a sideways trade this week I guarantee you'll regret it by round 20!

As for rookie correctives, it's always a good idea to watch them a second week before committing to a corrective trade.

    SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 20:19

    So I take it this means you're not going B.Crouch to Libba this week like some coaches are planning? 🙂

      Sarah · 29/03/2016 at 20:42

      Not at all!! Crouch was rusty but scored a 72 in a tough game. Libba had an impact early in a game that was decided early. I'm sticking with Crouch.
      How'd you go in round 1 SCaddict?

        SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 20:59

        Off to a reasonable start with 2257 although I note the Terrifying Texinator bested me by some 42pts! We're adversaries in the Throttledome league in case you didn't realise.

        Yes no way I'm trading Brad either as he will only get better as the season unfolds, although I also have Libba too. But I can imagine those who don't will be tempted to jump on the Libba Express either this week or next as the Doggies 2014 B&F looks back in town baby!

          Sarah · 29/03/2016 at 21:20

          Haha, I did notice that!! Glad you're scared of my team!

          I'm comfortable with my decision to pass on Libba as I'm happy with my overall team structure… You can't have me all!

    tophawk · 29/03/2016 at 21:58

    I agree 100%. Impulsiveness, impatience, and rage when trading players is suicidal in this game.

    Another thing I do not understand is all the moaning about B.Crouch's performance this round. He scored 72 SC points in his first match back away vs the Roos! I am very comfortable with his start. Got Libba as well. The way I look at it, these guys scored 187 SC points together for a combined spend of 663K! Thats less than Fyfe at 670K. And we all know how Fyfe went this week.

RoughNuts · 29/03/2016 at 20:18

Going to hold another week to trade but at this stage I'm thinking as follows:

Toby Greene to Papley

Hartleyv(Ess) to JJ

As mentioned wont pull the trigger this week instead will hold to allow to make another judgement. I feel like Greene was a mistake he was one of the last picked and the fact he did not really run through the midfield has me convinced he will not be a worth while selection this year.

Thoughts community

    Mossy · 29/03/2016 at 20:35

    Hartley is meant to be looking the goods for a run in the next few weeks. Paps won't always be up there. If you must trade Greene go to Aaron Hall or Sam Gray?

    Randomclcihe · 29/03/2016 at 21:30

    If you have the right swing consider Hartley to Smear.

    Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 21:54

    For what it's worth, I think Hartley will play very soon, maybe even this week. That's why I didn't trade him when not named.
    As for Greene, got rid of him as soon as lockout ended yesterday. Didn't look anywhere near it and cannot see him getting anywhere near a 90-100 average this year. In fact, if he plays many more games with that low level of intensity and commitment, he'll get dropped before long.
    Greene, Hall and Sam Gray all ran put of the middle on the weekend. Greene got 12 touches, whilst the other two got 35 plus. Says it all I reckon!

    Cam · 30/03/2016 at 12:42

    I was at the game and Greene started in at a large portion of centre bounces, it wasnt lack of opportunity at all he just plain and simply sucked

Dee · 29/03/2016 at 20:31

I don't know why I picked Rioli from Richmond…. I want to get rid of him and put Kennedy forward using DPP and bringing in Hewett. How do I switch Kennedy forward after trading out Rioli? Help please….

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:49

    People picked rioli and ellis from richmond because they were the first rookies named. It's a classic trap for rookie coaches.

    Go to trade rioli, trade screen open scroll down and there will be a large 'S' next to the player you can move to his position.

    Although I'd advise to wait a week, unless your team is a pile of crap and you need urgent repairs across all lines.

      Dee · 29/03/2016 at 23:02

      this didn't help….

Aurion · 29/03/2016 at 20:31

Need some advice community. I scored a respectable 2294 this week. I'm happy with my team except for the fact i have 3 non playing rookies (J.Joyce, M.Chol and Ruggles) on the bench. I only have 2k in the bank. Should i be trading already to get the rookies i need in? I would possibly have to go L.Mccarthy down to a Papley then Ruggles/Joyce to another playing rookie

    Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 20:41

    I'd wait until teams are named for Round 3 on the rookies, or you may just be wasting trades.
    As long as you've got cover and won't incur donuts, I'd wait. Only Rookie I'd consider bringing in this week if I didnt have him is Kennedy, as he'll play all year and isn't really a rookie.

      SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 21:09

      Yes both B.Kennedy and Adams really are must haves I believe.

        Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:19


    SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 20:41

    I'm with Crouching One in that I'd try and keep McCarthy if you can.

    Given your particular circumstances I'd probably wait a week and see how both McCarthy and Paps perform again. If results more or less repeat then you could probably be more comfortable with getting McCarthy out and Paps in. Same goes for M.McGovern owners.

    Scott · 29/03/2016 at 20:53

    My advice would be to hold. Trades are like gold so don't waste them. You need to stick to the team you selected, which scored very well.

      aurion · 29/03/2016 at 20:56

      Appreciate it guys! I'll hold for now and look at it again next week

        Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:21

        Only problem I see is that you have three donuts. Whilst tasty in real life donuts are not really what you want in supercoach.

        Next week you may have an injury and/or suspension which will stop you fixing your rookies up.

        Not saying you should trade now but there can be pros and cons to waiting.

          Derek · 29/03/2016 at 21:40

          Ruggles had 28 touches in a VFL pre active game on weekend

            tophawk · 29/03/2016 at 22:06

            Wow. Thanks Derek. That is really useful info. That form suggests he could be very close to his first AFL game. If you have him, it might be worth hanging onto him for loopholing for the next week or two.


    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:58

    Agree keep McCarthy geelong are gonna go well this year if a bit of that magic doesn't rub off on him I'd be surprised. Plus too early for this kind of trading.

    Juzzy · 29/03/2016 at 23:09

    I would suggest that you keep McCarthy if you can.
    The kid can really play and I think he will be given every opportunity to.
    When Cockatoo and Menzel get back it may push him but I have a feeling he may be an important part of Geelongs fwd line.
    He may be the Jock Lonie of this year. Quietly get 60s or 70s and make you some decent cash.

    hedski · 29/03/2016 at 23:56

    Who the hell is Joyce? Keep the Rug he's a good loophole til he gets named cats have a lot of late games.

      hedski · 29/03/2016 at 23:57

      And keep little Abe. Superstar in the making.

Ben · 29/03/2016 at 20:33

Trade shane edwards?
And if so, to kelly wells or hall

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 20:56

    How long is he out for?

    Wells and Hall are must haves, or so it seems.

      Derek · 29/03/2016 at 21:37

      Wells just ahead of Hall. Better $ value

      Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:04

      One week apparently, but you never know, so many drag out much longer.

        Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 22:07

        One week may get turned into 2 at worst you'd think.

        Not having hall or wells is blasphemy though. I'd be tempted to take action honestly.

          Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:13

          True dat, they should've been starters in everyone's team.

Blueprime · 29/03/2016 at 20:43

Rage trades are just plain DUMB. Save em for the pointy end when you really will NEED them.

@BarronVonCrow · 29/03/2016 at 20:50

Even if Fyfe or Rockliff stink up the joint next week I won't be trading them.

    SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 21:14

    Unless Fyfe's back looks stuffed. Seemed to be hindered last weekend although perhaps it was just a corky. But if he appears restricted next week alarm bells may ring.

      Derek · 29/03/2016 at 21:35

      Agree. I didn't see him play last week, but if he looks injured I'll trade him

    CoachDamo · 29/03/2016 at 21:22

    I couldn't agree more. I'll have patience with Rocky – we know what he is capable of.

    Youngy · 29/03/2016 at 21:50

    Agreed, Barron

Marvin · 29/03/2016 at 20:52

Everything that has been said about not wasting trades is true. Don't waste em. But it doesn't mean don't use them so don't be afraid to. It all depends on your circumstances. Sideways trades should be avoided but after this week you only have 2 trades to jump on players before their price rise. The start of the season is the most important time to make money so you need to have the right cattle and if you have a long hit list and reckon you'll need more than 2 next week then make a move or 2 this week. If you've got a set of bum rookies then fix other necessary mistakes this week so you can get the best of the bunch next week. If you don't have libba. Get him

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:08

    Exactly. People come in and say should I trade player A for player B without stating their exact situation.

    If I had a crap team I'd use all 4 of my trades before price rise.

      Derek · 29/03/2016 at 21:23

      You will be amazed how you will give anything for an extra trade around week 18

        Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:26

        This is also true, but if you have a garbage team at the start you may as well not play the season.

        People who come on this website would not have a garbage team though, it's almost impossible.

        Marvin · 29/03/2016 at 21:35

        Well need to save that trade in week 10 instead

    Dean · 30/03/2016 at 00:05

    AGREE those who don't have the rookie cattle such as: Kennedy, Kerridge, Adams, Menadue, Weitering and off course Papley & Hewett. Also to a lesser extent Mills, Dunkly & Davis look like they also will make nice cash generation.
    They need to get most of them because without them they will never get to have a full premo side.

    I currently have 15 rookies in:
    Weitering, Adams, Dea, AMT, Brown, Menadue, Mills, Dunkly, Davis, Gresham, Kerridge, Kennedy, McCarthy, Grimley & Wyatt – Obviously Wyatt is my loophole and Grimley might be also.
    I don't have Hewett & Papley as I was really concerned about their job security, however I will strongly consider getting rid of Gresham prior to round 3 to bring in Papley or Hewett providing they score huge and are named round 3.
    Then again I have my fair share of cash cows.

Derek · 29/03/2016 at 21:20

A few people are talking about trading Sidebum.

Before you do, think about this; he isn't injured! If he was injured it might be different, how many times has 2 weeks turned into 4! He will keep training, be fit and fresh when he comes back.

Secondly he will want redeem himself, I'm sure he will feel he let his team mates down, so look out for a big effort.

Third, when he does come back the pies have Melbourne and then Essendon! Hello!

Finally, he is a POD now, but as other people trade him out, you will be left with him. I had SMitchell last year, second week he was a late out and the few people who had him traded him, I stuck with him and he had a massive year and he helped me to top 100.

I don't have him but if I did I would be holding and relying on the band of fresh young rookies to cover him.

    Nathan · 29/03/2016 at 21:33

    Hey Derek, how good is the A Graders league first round!! 32nd overall!! 2sloned2bone.

      Derek · 29/03/2016 at 23:02

      A'nt called A Graders for nothin'

    BKW · 29/03/2016 at 21:36

    I don't own Sidey but would definitely hold if I did – it's only two weeks and he should have a great year.

      Paulie Walnuts · 29/03/2016 at 21:41

      Wise words Derek, I don't have Sidey, but your words are like trades – Gold ,use them wisely not loosely

    SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 21:37

    Great points Derek!

    It sounds like Jock is kissing his @rse goodbye (according to the podcast) but every Sidebum owner needs to make their own call there. If you are mainly playing for league you really should hold him but if we're honest with ourselves, most of us are interested in improving our overall ranking, especially early in the season. And having nearly $600K on the bench for two weeks is just going to stuff your early ranking so the temptation to trade will be high.

    I mean you're holding on to Lobbe aren't you? He's not injured right! 🙂

    It's always easy to tell others to hold their trades but when it comes to our own teams the situation is ALWAYS DIFFERENT or so we tell ourselves. I'm guilty of this too ha ha.

      Derek · 29/03/2016 at 22:15

      I will hold Lobbe. I did see him somehow score 82 on the weekend, But seriously he was awful. Have all the ruckmen grown or has Lobbe shrunk?

        Dean · 29/03/2016 at 23:36

        Nah Lobbe is just ordinary compared to the elite ruckmen. That makes him look small mate. lol
        He will score 120+ some weeks but not often, I feel he will be extremely inconsistent and doubt he will increase in price.

        Although you must be bloody over the moon with Lobbe's 82 coz Hickey made a absolute mess of him, when I seen he scored 82, I thought WTF!!!

        I'm glad I stuck strong with two elite premo rucks as they almost scored me 300

          Derek · 29/03/2016 at 23:46

          He will score 120…….. When, how, please let that be true.

          He only scored 82 because they had 92 stoppages, 30 more than the next most. That is also why Hickey scored so well. Lots of ball ups.

            Troy · 30/03/2016 at 14:47

            Actually, he scored 82 because he had 7 tackles. He always has a high tackle count, so while he might get smashed in the hitout department, he'll still score half decently.

    Dean · 29/03/2016 at 23:14

    Good call in one way Derek, however those who have sidebum and have very ordinary bench cover then I would be trading Sidebum out and bring in another Premo like Priddis or Parker and hope to go from 1350 overall or whatever your overall score happens to be to maybe 1000 overall.
    Every point lost makes a enormous difference overall and its only round 1 so im presuming most will still be playing for overall or at least to try better last years position. I know I am even though I don't have Sidebum.

      Derek · 29/03/2016 at 23:21

      unless we have him we won't really know what we would do. Injury, he'd be gone, but only a suspension….. I'd probably hold and fix up the weak bench.

        hedski · 29/03/2016 at 23:29

        I'm in the a graders league Derek and I have/had sidey. Dont think I'll go to Parker tempting as it is might be. Somewhere bit more left field will be the go. Cant wait to play the bunnies!

    Connor · 29/03/2016 at 23:56

    Derek what is your team name?

      Derek · 30/03/2016 at 01:03

      Bundeena Bunnies

      Scored an ok 2228 first week.

Lones22 · 29/03/2016 at 21:23

Anyone have Callan Ward like myself?

    siri · 29/03/2016 at 21:37

    I do….. got him in for ablett…

    tophawk · 29/03/2016 at 22:14

    Yes Lones I have him. Very happy with this premo selection. Put the VC on him this week and loopholed his score for 284. If he stays fit, he will be an unbelievable player for teams that have him IMO. And I dont think he is owned that heavily by coaches this year. Shiel appears more popular. POD!!!

    Hawks · 29/03/2016 at 22:25

    Got him.

    Love my midfield premo's – Danger, Priddis, Ward, Parker, Fyfe (he will come good), Rocky, Libba

    Hopefully won't be using many trades in the M1-M7 positions

    Brook · 29/03/2016 at 23:12

    got him … with danger, Priddis, pendles (all played 20+ games, 97+ avg for past 3 yrs)

Russ · 29/03/2016 at 21:45

Does anyone think Bryce Gibbs can outscore Cripps this year?

    Harley · 29/03/2016 at 21:53

    No I don't think so!

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:57


    tophawk · 29/03/2016 at 22:25


    @randomcliche · 29/03/2016 at 22:52

    Yep, Cripps could get injured, suspended or a move to the forward line, but more likely just get a tag when teams run one. Gibbs is a very solid player and was in my team for a good part of the pre-season, but ended up with cookie cutter midfield+L.Parker. Gibbs is better value at circa 75k cheaper, which is approx 14ppts per game. I reckon Cripps will win the avg score, but by less than 6pt avg by seasons end.

Paulie Walnuts · 29/03/2016 at 21:46

I can't believe people trading out Hartley & Petracca , seriously, I and most coaches kept them because they will play and will save a trade down the track

    Lones22 · 29/03/2016 at 21:49

    I think Hartley will come into the team this week he performed well in the VFL.

    Southern S · 29/03/2016 at 21:56

    Hartley did well in the NAB too, was really surprised he wasn't named round one. He'll get plenty of games I reckon.

    Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 21:58


    tophawk · 29/03/2016 at 22:29

    I have Petracca but not Hartley. If Hartley is named and M.Brown is not I will be mega excited. Could be a straight switch. But not this week. Brown will be used and abused as a loophole and then tossed out next week.

    Harry · 29/03/2016 at 23:12

    Spot on. I kept them and Grimley. The first 2 will definitely play and Grimley at the very least is a good ruck/fwd interchange but reckon he'll play around 10 games himself

B-T · 29/03/2016 at 21:46

I can't see GAZ playing 20+ games this year or scoring over 2500+ total points. Jock makes a valid point not starting with him

    Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 21:59

    Don't know which game you watched on the weekend!

      B-T · 29/03/2016 at 22:03

      His last 2 seasons hasn't been great!!

        Derek · 29/03/2016 at 23:24

        Mammoth hump.

    Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:14

    If he stays on the park, he will be great, because he is great.

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 00:14

    Bad thing is what if he goes crazy in the first 10-15 rounds and you HAVE to trade him in. Then he gets injured later.

    It's the old 2 wasted trade conundrum. That will haunt you.

    If Ablett starts round one you bloody lock him in for crying out loud!

Youngy · 29/03/2016 at 21:47

Community, if you are trading seriously consider why, if you can wait another week to see a rookie. Please just wait

Pap Smear · 29/03/2016 at 21:50

Anyone have Hurn ? Will he do better had a pretty below sub par proper.

    Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:23

    Nah never had him, he was good in 13 and 14 but was pretty average last year averaging in the 70's, better options around I reckon.

Ben · 29/03/2016 at 21:54

Is there a jock Reynolds group

Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:01

Hey guys, with Tigers playing Pies and Swans playing Carlton, who'd be the best option on the field, Menadue or Mills?

    Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 22:08

    Use the Emergency loophole on Menadue if you have a non playing mid on the bench whom doesn't play for either Richmond or Collingwood.
    I have both those boys, and that's what I'm doing.

      Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:16

      Cheers Rocksta but I'm not doing the loophole thing, just wonder who'll score more on their opponents this week, I'm thinking Mills on Carlton but Menadue did pretty well last week too…aaah

        Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 22:21

        That's a hard one Russ. That's why I love using the Emergency Loophole when it's available as it gives you 2 bites at the cherry.
        Not sure otherwise, as both lads looked preety good on the weekend.

        Derek · 29/03/2016 at 23:11

        You gotta use the loophole! I'm using Keays as Lions have 5 out of the first 9 games on a Sunday and the Saturday games are evening.

        He should get games soon.

        Early on you can't afford to have a Kennedy or Menadue stuck on your bench.

      SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 22:38

      Yes I will be looping this duo too.

    Hawks · 29/03/2016 at 22:30

    I think Mills will out score Menadue, but it will be tight, tipping 78 & 73 points respectively.

    If I get this right Wayno can have the keys back to the DeLorion (spelling?)

      Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:34

      Cheers Hawks lol, I'll give Mills a go, and I think it's Delorean haha, Rocksta, might try the loophole with Gawn this week, as long as Grimley doesn't get a game.

        Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 22:39

        Won't work mate, as Melb and Ess are playing against eachother.

          Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:43

          Oh ok thanks, unfortunately all my midfield rooks are playing so , I'll just whack the C on Danger or Gaz I reckon, thanks for that.

    Dean · 29/03/2016 at 22:53

    I will be playing both Mills in my mid & Menadue in my forward.

    Doesn't it bother you using the loophole so early on someone like Menadue who plays on Friday, if you end up having one of your players as a late withdrawal you will then be forced to take a donut.

      Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 23:02

      Hi Dean.

      That's why i like trying the loophole in the midfield as you have 3 on the bench ( 2 playing and one non playing). I agree it's risky on other lines.

        hedski · 30/03/2016 at 00:03

        I like my backline for the loop too rocksta. Brown tippa Adams with the rug.

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 00:08

    How can people afford to have donuts…………………that sucks for team growth and finals.

      hedski · 30/03/2016 at 00:39

      I have 3 jam bastards. Loersch. Ruggles (will play) petracca (will play)

        Derek · 30/03/2016 at 00:57

        I started last year with 3. Holmes, HGodard and Krakour and also held Lambert while he was out. Worked really well.

          hedski · 30/03/2016 at 01:14

          Agree derek I held lambert start t finish. Krak most of season

            Derek · 30/03/2016 at 01:51

            I love Waynos idea. I'm not sure it they are the regular gauze screens or if they are the plastic colour strips.

            The gauze one could double up as a yabbie net

            He is definitely an "ideas man".

Dean · 29/03/2016 at 22:06

Evening community I have just started a tipping league for a bit of fun. Those who are serious about playing please enter: 227283

azza · 29/03/2016 at 22:18

sad times when our league fell short of the 18k prize for round 1 🙁

    azza · 29/03/2016 at 22:19

    by 80 points*

      Dean · 29/03/2016 at 22:39

      Bloody hell I hear ya.

      SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 22:42

      About 4pts per team hey. That aint a lot. If a couple of you made better captain choices you probably could've been rolling in it.

      I know …. woulda coulda shoulda.

        azza · 30/03/2016 at 02:35

        that moment when two people passed up gazs VC score for fyfe…

    tophawk · 29/03/2016 at 22:46

    Don't make me take the violin out….

    Close, but no cigar……..

    Hopefully your league will come back hard after this defeat.


Gibbs · 29/03/2016 at 22:28

Thoughts on hurn? Had him as D3 but he only scored 60 odd, better off waiting a week before trading and getting a look at either jj, smith or rich?

    Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:36

    I think he's worth another week, he is capable of scoring 80's to 90's but only managed in the 70's last season.

Yello · 29/03/2016 at 22:53

Out: Callum Sinclair (FWD)
In: Johanissen (DEF) via DPP

Yay or nay?

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 00:07

    Depends on a million and one factors.

    Russ · 30/03/2016 at 00:10

    I don't know how you could do that, Sinclair is a fwd/Ruck and JJ is a defender only so I guess that's a no.

      BKW · 30/03/2016 at 08:54

      Via DPP Russ – he'll need to move one his swing Backman (like Adams, Brown) forward to replace Sinclair and open up a spot at the back for JJ

      As for the trade, wait another week then do it before round three if you feel it will improve your team

Russ · 29/03/2016 at 22:59

Anyone reckon Ben Mcglynn will get back into Swan's best 22 with all the new young punks on the scene?

    Derek · 29/03/2016 at 23:05

    Yes. 100%

      Russ · 29/03/2016 at 23:07

      This week Derek?

        Derek · 29/03/2016 at 23:28

        Not this week. He is listed as "test" but he not far away.

        They also have Richards back this week or next and maybe McVeigh in 2 weeks. Not sure where Reid is at. Rohan is at least 5 weeks away

        I also read that Hiscox is doing everything right and was very close to a game as well.

        Plenty of pressure on swans

          Steeeve · 30/03/2016 at 21:52

          Is Rohan best 22? I don't see it if Hewett maintains his form.

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 00:06

    Not too sure, he's really not that consistent is he?

      Russ · 30/03/2016 at 00:31

      Nah not in my SC team I was thinking for the Elite thing in AFL Fantasy, he was just sitting there at the bottom of the fwd list so I grabbed him 🙂

    Dan · 30/03/2016 at 01:38

    Yep. Swans rookies won't be playing against a bunch of witches hats every week like they did this week.

Dee · 29/03/2016 at 23:03

I want to trade Rioli out, but how do I swap Kennedy down forward who is in my midfield at the moment? I was thinking of bringing in Hewett for Rioli via the DPP status but struggling on how to do this on the SC app…. help please! Thanks….

    Rocksta · 29/03/2016 at 23:12

    Hi Dee.
    Press on Rioli, and then press on the 'S' icon. All possible substitues will then appear in that box, and then press on Kennedy. This will then substitite kennedy into the forward line and Rioli into the midfield.
    Then simply press on Rioli again, and press the 'T' icon, go into Select player, and bring in Hewett.

      Dee · 29/03/2016 at 23:21

      yeah but how will Rioli go up in the midfield, he's not a DPP….

        Dee · 29/03/2016 at 23:22

        Kennedy doesn't appear on the possible swaps…. When I hit the S on Rioli.

      Derek · 29/03/2016 at 23:33

      You need to press the S next to Kennedy.

        derek · 30/03/2016 at 10:55

        Click the green + next to Rioli. then click the S next to kennedy in your own team. this will swing kennedy to the forward line in place of Rioli, then all the players eligible to take Kennedy's place in the midfield appear as the trade in players. they will go into the midfield in place of kennedy.

    Russ · 29/03/2016 at 23:49

    Hi Dee, Rioli is a mid only and so is Hewett, so you can trade him for him, as far as getting Kennedy forward you'll have to sub him for a dpp in your fwd line…Kerridge, Wells? otherwise you'll have to trade a dpp into your fwd line to swap kennedy for him.

      Dee · 30/03/2016 at 01:50

      Rioli is a forward only….. OMG

    Bijou · 31/03/2016 at 11:26

    1. Click trade on Rioli (select the player and press 'T').
    2. On the trade screen, there will now be a blank forward spot in your team. Press 'S' next to Kennedy to move him into the forward line.
    3. There will now be a blank slot in your midfield. Trade Hewett into your midfield and save changes.

Cam · 29/03/2016 at 23:08

Who is the best Sidebottom replacement
Gray or Priddis? (These are the two I'm tossing up between for bye structures)

    Derek · 29/03/2016 at 23:36

    Do you know when Mastern will be back? 1-2 weeks.

    I have Prididiss in my top 8, Gray is top 15 but improving.

    hedski · 30/03/2016 at 00:41


    BKW · 30/03/2016 at 08:56

    Both great picks!

Marco_Polo94 · 29/03/2016 at 23:12

Only 2222 this week, few let downs across the park but not terrible. Real dream team i am 15th though which is surprising as hell because i took numerous risks in that team. For super coach, not sure what I'll do. Probably trade sidebum to someone as I'm focusing on rankings not leagues. And not sure how crucial it is to have danger and hewett, probably wait a week to see how both go. Very happy with smith's performance down back, and while jack riewoldt didn't come off this week I liked what i saw from the man roaming around the wings.

    SCaddict · 29/03/2016 at 23:35

    I reckon Danger is pretty darn crucial. He already looked "on" in the NAB and you only needed to watch the game yesterday to see how dominant he'll be this season. He was just on a different level to any else on the field.

    And with all due respect to the Crows midfield he has a better supporting cast at the Cats with Jelwood, Blitz, Caddy, Duncan, Bartel. Murdoch, Motlop etc so he's going to be even harder to shut down than last season.

    So if you don't get him in now I think you are going to rue all those missed VC and C opportunities in the first half of the season where he just explodes.

    It just comes down to how much finding that extra $80K over Sidebum screws with the rest of your team.

      Russ · 29/03/2016 at 23:55

      Agree I would say Dangerfield is essential, although the top ranked team doesn't have him, he did have Ablett, Priddis, Naitanui, Gray, and kennedy though, and all the other usual suspects. Hence the big score this week.

      Marco_Polo94 · 30/03/2016 at 01:00

      yeah i knew danger would go well, just not 160 well… He had been in my team all pre season, but traded him out for gary prior to the gold coast game. Not having danger enabled me to go 4 down back by upgrading weitering (which I'm still happy with as he is over 200 k and the lack of decent defence rookies when teams dropped scared me into gaining a more rigid defence line – i know this is the opposite reaction to what everyone else did), and allowed me to go 5 deep in midfield rather than 4. So that's Pendles, Gaz, Gray, Sidebum and selwood in the middle… not super keen on sideways/downgrading any except sidebottom.. that's my dilemma you're correct – where can i find an additional 30 k for sidebottom –> danger

        SCaddict · 30/03/2016 at 01:29

        Yeah it's not the end of the world if you can't squeeze Danger in but he would be a damn fine addition to an already excellent midfield you have. Getting in a Pridda, Hanners, Parker type would be pretty awesome too. I take it you're not that interested in Rocky deliberately omitting him from your starting line-up?

        What's your team name again MP? I think we may be in a league together but I can't remember. I'll see if I can give you a suggestion or two to consider to maybe allow you to get Danger in.

        And how much bank do you currently have to play with?

          Marco_Polo94 · 30/03/2016 at 01:33

          norfolk & chance mate. yeh left out rocky after chatting to the lions chairman aha.

          Marco_Polo94 · 30/03/2016 at 01:38

          and i have 29 700 sorry, not 50 k like i thought.

            SCaddict · 30/03/2016 at 01:54

            Yep I see we're both in that Low Expectations league I think you created?

            Damn if you had $50K I could've suggested a rookie tweak like bringing Papley in for either McCarthy or Gresham via DPP.

            All the rest of your team looks pretty solid so I agree with you that I wouldn't mess with any of your midpricers or premos. But who knows maybe Thursday's selections or an injury at training or something throws up a curve ball that results in an unexpected opportunity.

            Otherwise you may just have to shut your eyes when the Cats play the Lions and Bombers in a couple of weeks. 🙂

              Marco_Polo94 · 30/03/2016 at 01:59

              yeh that's the one! aha i know deep down that i will be praying danger doesn't punish me too harshly. One more score hopefully doesn't hurt me, and i will have a better idea of which player to sell after round 2 perhaps. Sidebottom is a puzzling one though, your curve ball thought is my best bet. cheers mate

Russ · 29/03/2016 at 23:14

Priddis if I had to choose, but I wouldn't trade out Sidebum unless he was injured.

TySB · 29/03/2016 at 23:16

Hey community !

What's your thoughts on Suckling?
Also I was stupid enough to have faith in Luen and produced a shit score of around 60! Should I trade him this week?

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 00:03

    You got luen! (points finger and laughs like a small child)

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 00:04

    If you have some cash you could get Hickey? The supercoach gods may spare you and keep him fit for a year. 375k

      Russ · 30/03/2016 at 00:34

      Yeh Hickey, alot of people have jumped on already, I reckon ya had to have your rucks sorted before round one, it's just a waste to be trading Rucks now but if you have to, and if you have Leuey, you probably have to.

    Westy · 30/03/2016 at 11:05

    I'm fine with Suckling. It's natural; good for mother and child and you don't have to sterilize the nipples in boiling water afterwards.

    Nice POD. I reckon he'll go ok with a new team.

    Flaccid Jaff · 31/03/2016 at 14:54

    I went with suckling and am happy with him, I think JJ is a lot easier to shut down so any defensive forward attention will go to him. Suckling had a bad game with uncharacteristic clangers so will definitely improve. My aim is to have suckling cover fwd & def f7/d7 swinging with someone at the end of the year which will free up lots of cash so he's a definite HOLD for mine!

JC Rapper · 29/03/2016 at 23:17

Barlow is a dud, will trade in for a push bike.

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 00:02

    Good luck convincing someone to part with their pushbike.

hedski · 29/03/2016 at 23:17

Gotta say all this "oh trades are precious wait a week". That bloody bullshit. Sidebum out. Greene out. Next week correct rooks. Still 26 trades with a better side. Pussies.

    Pap Smear · 29/03/2016 at 23:22

    Greene is out?

      hedski · 30/03/2016 at 00:05

      Yep libba

    Russ · 30/03/2016 at 00:00

    Then Sidebum will be back fresh and raring to go in round 4 and you'll wish you had him back, Greene on the other hand…lol, well he stunk it up but could bounce back next week.

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 00:01

    Well yeah if you have a shite team fix it, That has also been said.

      hedski · 30/03/2016 at 00:08

      Greene out. Solid team.

        Chill · 30/03/2016 at 10:46

        haha Hedeski you sound like you are rage trading. Hope Greene kicks 10 and get 200 sc points! ohh the rage.

          JamiesNinjas13 · 30/03/2016 at 12:07

          Keen to see how many trades you have left come r20 Hedski

          hedski · 30/03/2016 at 12:18

          No doubt something like that will happen chill!

Dan · 29/03/2016 at 23:29

I still cry myself to sleep at night over the fact I took Luke Parker out after telling my mates all preseason that he was way under priced and they should pick him!

    judd0 · 29/03/2016 at 23:35

    Glad I wasn't the only one mate, and to add salt to the wound I picked bloody Steele Sidebottom instead.

    Chill · 30/03/2016 at 10:45

    Ahhh Dan, I have been yelling to the masses not to take Lukey Parker.. I had him last year and he caused me a heart ache. Now I don't have him and he's causing me heart ache… what is this guy's problem???

    Big G · 30/03/2016 at 12:28

    Just think how painful it is that he slid to pick 40 in 2010. He wont get 160 each week (hopefully) as Sydney midfielders seem to share it around, but has potential to average 110-115.

sharmanism · 29/03/2016 at 23:41

Scored 2027 this week with four rookies sitting on the bench that outscored ten of my starting line up.

Biggest disappointments were Fyfe, Barlow and Steele but a lot of my team just didn't fire but I'm reasonably confident that they will improve and I'm pretty happy that I've got decent rooks just didn't have the right ones on the park.

Thoughts on Dea out BenKen in?

Also thoughts on Barlow? I really didn't like what I saw there – giving a little bit of thought about ditching him for the West Coast Kennedy.

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 00:00

    Ben Kennedy should be in your team.

    Dea is so low priced he will profit steadily in my opinion.

    You never get a player that has a huge week, unless it's a premo lock you wanted anyway, like danger/goldy etc etc.

    You missed kennedy's big score, no guarantees he will do things like that all year.

Matt · 29/03/2016 at 23:43

Very concerned Toby Greene could be the biggest burn man to hit our teams since the great Greg Broughton

    Pap Smear · 29/03/2016 at 23:51

    Yeah I'm thinking of culling him this week…….51 was way under par. GWS does have a real good draw either. But I'm debating as to whether give him another week but if I do and he screws me………..makes it harder to trade on price rises. Think he might have to go?

      Matt · 29/03/2016 at 23:55

      I'm giving him another week but if he shows as little effort as this week I'll have to consider trading him. Have to remember that we picked him for a reason and he's shown in previous years he can score very well.

      Dan · 30/03/2016 at 01:36

      Give him one more week. If he gets played predominantly fwd again, then def trade. He was there for most under the assumption he would get more mid time with Treloar gone.

Pap Smear · 29/03/2016 at 23:51

*doesnt not does

Russ · 29/03/2016 at 23:58

He won't go big like that every week, he usually averages 100 to 105 ish

Russ · 30/03/2016 at 00:15

Does anyone know what JRBrumby FC scored this week?…interested to know, and what did everyone else score the first week?

Post your scores lads, I was lucky enough to start with 2319.

    Russ · 30/03/2016 at 00:17

    …and who did you put the big C on?…I messed up and chose Pendles over Danger, should've been Danger!

    Derek · 30/03/2016 at 00:25

    Have a look at the team coming 10th Overall, big Bulldogs fan!

      SCaddict · 30/03/2016 at 02:35

      I'm actually surprised he didn't squeeze in Lachie Hunter rather than say a Matty Crouch.

      And where the hell is Dunkley on his midfield bench? What kind of Doggies supporter is he going with a non playing Petracca instead ha ha!

      Will be interesting to see whether his team can climb further up the rankings or not with the Doggies firm favourites against the Saints this weekend.

      Could have some bye issues in Rd14 though. 😉

        derek · 30/03/2016 at 10:09

        that reminds me of my team in my early days of supercoach….full of my beloved hawks players!

        i did notice that 9 out 10 of the top 10 had nicNat and only 2 had goldy.

          BigHaydos · 30/03/2016 at 16:32

          lmao man i looked at the dogs SC scores as a collective team and just scratched my head. then i saw the possies by a few of them. 35,35,30,30…. wow

Benjamima Puddleduck · 30/03/2016 at 00:32

Hickey to outscore and make more income than Barlow in the first 6 rounds, gets his real test 7-8-10.

Barlow was my only real dud for round one, he will definitely bounce back, just see more upside to Hickey.
Even if Hickey scored a 100 id be looking to do the same. His game has really stepped up, and looking really fit.

    Derek · 30/03/2016 at 00:53

    he was only against my guy Lobbe. Plus that game had 92 stoppages, the next highest for the round was around 65.

      Monkey_Magic · 30/03/2016 at 09:36

      Great point Derek, I actually think rucks will average a lot less this year with stoppages going down. Goldy wasn't having the same affect till he pulled out a 60 point last quarter.
      Nic Nat looked good, due to mobility and jumping ability but not sold on the others, watch Hickey drop back to earth this week.

        derek · 30/03/2016 at 10:05

        i saw those stats on the Couch. 17% less stoppages as players are worried about the deliberate out of bounds rule. that has got to affect ruckmen and "stoppage" players like JPK, Libba etc.

        The main reason i didn't get Goldy was i thought he was to expensive and was unsure of the rule changes regards subs and interchanges etc. I think he will drop in price. this just adds more fuel to that debate.

          Monkey_Magic · 30/03/2016 at 11:13

          So many good footy shows to get info from!
          It will definately affect rucks, stoppage players and I'm thinking, help key forwards. Ball is kepy in instead of going out, quick kick in to the forward line where the defence doesn't have time to set up and bang! Goal for key forward. Saw it a few times on the weekend!
          Question…Does this make quick key forwards relevant this year?

          We were definately paying for reliability with Goldy. I had Stef for the last week coming in to lockout then changed to Goldy with a few days to go. Wanted consistant scores and number 1 averaging ruck to go with Mobility and full preaseason of Nic Nat (first time in years). I'm now wondering if I should have spent that much on Goldy, will be watching him like a hawk this week as he was saved by that final quarter 60 and he wasn't playing badly till 3/4 time either. Hmmm…another huge week coming up!

      Benjamima Puddleduck · 30/03/2016 at 22:07

      This is true, his opponents till round 7 will be the equivalent. Mumford a touch better if he makes it to round 5.

      20 disposals is solid along with 3 tackles. Maybe add in a few marks and a goal over the next few weeks. I think he can average a nice 120 till round 6 possibly higher with his rnd 1 big score.

      He isnt your big oaf ruckman like some of the guys playing, more of your zac smith and nic nat type.

    Dan · 30/03/2016 at 01:32

    Doesn't matter if Hickey makes income, as you should be picking up a keeper if you sideways trade a premo. Don't trade a premo to a stepping stone player, watse of precious trades. Otherwise you are making 2 trades on a guy that history shows should come good. Freo were woeful.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 30/03/2016 at 12:55

    Yeah was against lobbe who would be in the magoos if not for the Ryder suspension. How an earth he got 80 is beyond me. Was slaughtered by hickey. Almost a VC option to.pick a ruck against port.

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 18:42

    Hickey showed promise a while ago when he wasn't injured. People tend to forget this.

    Had his best uninterrupted preseason this year too. He's a risk, but the gamble could pay off, see how he goes this weekend and then make up your mind.

Ethan017 · 30/03/2016 at 00:41

Toby Greene out for Zach Merrett

    Dan · 30/03/2016 at 01:30


      Monkey_Magic · 30/03/2016 at 11:14

      Interesting shout but watch for another week

Dan · 30/03/2016 at 01:29

Everyone hold on Syd rookies this week. They were playing against witches hats on the weekend.

    SCaddict · 30/03/2016 at 02:16

    That would likely be the wisest move all things being equal. However I'm considering bringing in Papley this week if McGlynn also comes in and the youngster holds his spot.

    Also not sure whether the Blues will be the greatest litmus test either for the Swans rookies this weekend.

    Boltons blues · 30/03/2016 at 10:34

    Did you watch the Carlton game Thursday night? They looked quick across the ground, shame they don't have a goal kicking forward, they will shake the swans up and be much more competitive then Collingwood
    They won't find it as easy this weekend, hold on those rookies

Derek · 30/03/2016 at 01:55

I love Waynos idea. I'm not sure it they are the regular gauze screens or if they are the plastic colour strips ( like you get at the fish n chip shop)

The gauze one could double up as a yabbie net

He is definitely an "ideas man".

Mark · 30/03/2016 at 05:24

I'm thinking about the following trades:
Suckling -> Johansson
Steele -> Wingard

Or do you think I should wait?

    Holty · 30/03/2016 at 09:09

    you must have a fair bit of money spare?

    Flaccid Jaff · 31/03/2016 at 15:16

    Holdon suckling. Watch steele another week

Big Bob Francis · 30/03/2016 at 06:54

Can u still have the reverse trades option? – there's no harm in seeing how it looks to help you sleep during these autumn nights. Fyfe massive break even – Ablett son of God 50k cheaper. Get some team value or stick fat? Is Fyfe's fitness an issue? It's really gonna come down to a guts decision but my head is saying to hold, hold anything could happen this week. Ride the Round 1 spud wave out for mine.

    Vindude · 30/03/2016 at 08:54

    Yes, you surely can reverse trades Big Bob! I personally do not have Fyfe in my team, instead I went with similar players who can knock out similar scores when on song – Priddis and Ward! Scored 2360 this round thanks to both of them!

    oldmate65 · 30/03/2016 at 09:09

    To reverse that you make, under the search bar when viewing your team, there should be a reverse changes button that you can press.

    Kev · 30/03/2016 at 10:10

    Fyfe's massive b.e is because the system assumes he will score 60 again this week. Prices don't change after this week, so don't freak out. Personally I picked him as a keeper, don't give a stuff about his b.e

    He is fine. Picked up a corky against the dogs. With Sandi back this week putting the ball on a platter for him, Fyfe will be back

Vindude · 30/03/2016 at 08:50

What does everyone think about Kane Lambert from Richmond? Looked good while playing right in the guts and a goal sneek as well. Thoughts appreciated.

    Kev · 30/03/2016 at 10:05

    Was on 77 at 3/4 time, massive last quarter skewed his numbers. See how he goes this week but his awkward price is not worth the trade imo

    Sam · 30/03/2016 at 13:28

    Flash in the pan. Doubt that he will have a final quarter like that again. B. Crouch a safer bet for same dough, but don' trade this week.

Max · 30/03/2016 at 08:59

Got basha in the backline ….. Anyone think it's a stupid idea to get JJ in for him and upgrade Greene to say a Parker/shel/Gray thoughts need the help fellas??

    Joey · 30/03/2016 at 13:30

    Yes, stupid.

oldmate65 · 30/03/2016 at 09:03

Such a horror first round for me
I had no internet as I was out camping
Came back yesterday to a score of only 2,052
KK didnt play, Greene Fyfe, Barlow all flopped. Add that to mediocre scores from Pendles, Wines, Rockliff and Shaw. It was an absolute shocker. The worst thing about this round round was i traded Kennedy out for Greene a few days prior to round 1 starting.

But should i hold onto Greene or get rid of him?

    Ash · 30/03/2016 at 10:47

    thinking of getting rid of greene mate. lots of good options around his price.

Holty · 30/03/2016 at 09:07

No injuries or suspensions for my team after round 1. Very happy. For all those planning of trading this week, just be careful as things can change quickly. I had Sidey, Rocky, Wines, God, Bartel and a few others last year which i had to trade early. Not saying it will happen this year but if it does, you would be wishing you didnt waste these trades on someone who stunk it up after a round. Remember, the season is not a sprint, it is a marathon. keep some trades for the end because you will need them.

Danners · 30/03/2016 at 09:15

Great podcast Jock and Crew! For people worried about using trades, only one person out of the Supercoach winners since 2011 has traded after round 1. Patience is the key

    Chill · 30/03/2016 at 09:42

    Good stat Danners! hold strong.

lachie08 · 30/03/2016 at 09:28

should i trade gresham to papley or stick with gresham

    derek · 30/03/2016 at 09:49

    Gresham didn't have a great game, but i'm sure they will stick with him. Pap might be a false flag and play 3 or 4 games and get a rest and leave his owners hanging.

    Kev · 30/03/2016 at 09:58

    Worth noting Papley is still rookie listed. I'd be worried about his js

      derek · 30/03/2016 at 10:15

      Rohan is listed as 3-5 weeks.

    lachie08 · 30/03/2016 at 10:33

    thanks guys

Monkey_Magic · 30/03/2016 at 09:42

Wait for the teams to be announced first before doing anything permanent.
Fyfe didn't look that great but worth watching at least for another week as his potential score could be huge!
I wouldn't be jumping on Ablett this week either, was always going to start with a bang against Essendon, not so sure he will score as highly this week, get this feeling he isn't NQR yet…
Definitely wait till after he plays this week and is named for Round 3 otherwise it might be costly.

    derek · 30/03/2016 at 09:54

    Ablett was definitely rusty on the weekend, i didn't think he played as well as his SC score suggests. Suns have a tougher game this week followed by two good games, nice for Gaz to work into the year.

    What i love about Gaz is he looks for SC points. Always running past to get the handball, the ol' one-two and back to gaz for an extra touch.

      Monkey_Magic · 30/03/2016 at 11:18

      God no! 😉 He looked very rusty for mine, can't believe he scored that well! Didn't look as good as DANGER that's for sure!
      He will come good and bloody watch out when he does!!!

      Ha ha, he certainly does, maybe he picks himself Captain every week! 😉

        derek · 30/03/2016 at 11:26

        as a complete side question. Do kick-ins after a point has been scored count as a stat/kick?

          Monkey_Magic · 30/03/2016 at 11:28

          I don't believe they do but I'm not sure on that one, can anyone help out?

          Hoof Hearted · 30/03/2016 at 11:48

          I think if they kick to themselves to play on from a behind their next possession counts but just a straight kick out doesn't count as its not counted as a possession. I think. Heath Shaws jam is playing on and banging it long outside 50 for a kick plus rebound 50. Just like the eski used to do at the swans!

Mitch · 30/03/2016 at 09:54

Jock, Peter and Crouching you majestic gentlemen. I have a dilemma. I know the golden rule of not panic trading, not sideways trading but I have neither Weitering nor Papley. I'm not as keen on Papley unless he blasts out another 100 this week but with Weitering, I feel he has the ability to sit at D6 at the end of the year. My dilemma is whether I break these rules and downgrade a Fyfe to a Priddis to get him in? To shore up my shaky defence that is filled with Essendon duds and no bench cover. Am I mad or is this fair. I scored a reasonable 2287 this week to give some context.
Thanks guys, your help is much appreciated

    Chill · 30/03/2016 at 10:51

    Mitch, I like the plan and will be looking to do the same, but just wait til after this weekend. Carlton play Sydney so we will see how Weitering goes against the big boys. Freo play gold coast so Fyfe gets another chance to make it up to us. You will get clarity and be better for it.

      Kev · 30/03/2016 at 14:25

      I need to see Weitering again, basically unsighted in the first half. Smashed it with 2287, so surely things can't be that bad.

      Stick to your structures, you'll experience some initial pain in your backline if you went thin and sideways trading rookies after round 1 is a bad idea. Not sold on Papley either, he was huge when the game was on. Had 85 to half time and finished with 104

        Mitch · 31/03/2016 at 09:25

        Cheers for the reply Kev, leaves me in an interesting spot though if they both come out with a bang again this week and I will only be able to select one of them. What a great game!

      Mitch · 31/03/2016 at 09:29

      i love your thinking 'Chill' especially with the two different teams the boys are playing. That's where my secondary dilemma lies, if Papley goes bang again this week then I am left with a choice of Weitering or Papley, one that will be painful for me either way.

tom · 30/03/2016 at 10:27

is zorko for robinson a good trade or should i go down to winged gray or hall

    tophawk · 30/03/2016 at 10:39

    Zorko would be a very good choice. I reckon many players with Robbo will go to Hall as they dont have the spare 44K to make the trade up to Zorko the magnifient. It would therefore mean you would have a super POD which is currently owned by barely any coaches. If you already have some good PODS and you want to grab a quick 72K, then grabbing Hall is a very solid option IMO. Depends what you want more, a real good POD or the extra cash. Cheers

      tom · 30/03/2016 at 11:40

      this is my team 75k in the bank
      DEF: houli laird sheridan cutler weitering dea (adams tipungwuti)
      MID: danger ablett priddis shiel t.adams viney b.crouch kennedy (gresham hewet davis)
      RUCK: Nic nat gawn (102k rook)
      FWD: barlow robinson steele wells menadue kerridge (mccarthy papley)

        Dan · 30/03/2016 at 23:44

        Both are great choices, I'd grab Sam Gray while he's cheap, feel he has just as much POD value as Zorko too. Try grab Zorko too asap.

Jordan · 30/03/2016 at 10:30

Do I trade out greene and pick up someone like De Goey or a rookie like adams

    tophawk · 30/03/2016 at 10:43

    Firstly, dont flick Greene this week. Give him one more to see how he goes. If he screws up again, and Adams plays well, then I would go Greene to Adams without hesitation. Adams is a key cash cow and is likely to jump significantly in value after round 3. (Barring any injuries etc)

    Gold Rush · 30/03/2016 at 15:11

    Greene is a spud full stop, due to his low DE it is very unlikely that Cameron will give him greater mid time as most are assuming! Unless injury strikes hard and they are forced to play him more in the midfield – only my opinion DYOR.

Shake n bake · 30/03/2016 at 10:36

Don't have kennedy thinking trading out Greene for Hickey to use as my ruck fwd swing as l have Wyatt on the pine in the ruck. Then sell Grimley who is in my fwd line for Kennedy? Goin a week early but Kennedy most likely go alright this week as will Hickey. Kennedy will be a cash cow. Hickey might av around 90 could be a keeper if he stays on the park could become very handy. Thoughts?

    tophawk · 30/03/2016 at 10:57

    That is a pretty smart move IMO. Even smarter if you can hold off for one more week. Unless you need to back up with 2 further trades next week to get more key rookies before they go on the bubble or you have other issues that need fixing.

    If you can hold off for one more week, it will give you another round to watch Hickey to make sure he can back it up. He did play against Lobbe who is a bit of a flog. I have seen it many times before, Greene might come out and score a tonne this week. He might have felt lousy last week which affected his output. If you have to go this week, then you know the risks involved.


    Kev · 30/03/2016 at 14:10

    You've got to aim higher than a 90 average to consider him as a keeper. Especially with blokes like Goldy and Nic Nat having strong games on the weekend.

    Kennedy for Grimley is a trade I like. Ruck cover at this stage of the season isn't needed.

    Southern S · 30/03/2016 at 18:36

    The attraction of Hickey to me is that you can have him forward, and with a swingman in your 3rd ruck position (as many do) it will mean having a back up ruckmen.

Ash · 30/03/2016 at 10:40

do i keep greene? or do i trade him? thinking of getting Heeney

    Monkey_Magic · 30/03/2016 at 11:23

    Keep him for another week. I have the same Greene problem. Looked horrible, whinging if he didn't get the ball, not doing team things, saved by his last quarter, looked crap! Massive turd in the forward line currently.

    Watch the game this week and see what you think, if he goes badly again there are plenty of options to up or down grade him too.

    Nor sure on Heeney, watch for another week mate.

TySB · 30/03/2016 at 10:47

Thoughts on hickey ?

Should I trade suckling ?

    Kev · 30/03/2016 at 14:06

    Hickey had a good weekend, good on him. But not someone I want come SC finals time

    Gold Rush · 30/03/2016 at 15:13

    He will last as long as one from the missus.

    Swans2012 · 30/03/2016 at 22:09

    I think hickeys game had that beginning of something feel about it. Remember gawn did something similar out of nowhere last year, not to mention stef Martin a couple ago. Seems like a midprice ruck bobs up every year, maybe hickey might be it, not saying he is but just saying……maybe

neil · 30/03/2016 at 12:01

anyone in a higher league than 32 the A Graders lots of fine teams Derek Nathan whose on top as well as many from this forum.The 18th team HOBBITS was most competitive last year and still scored nearly 2000 with a lot of bad luck .Going to be a great year for A Graders wonder who will win its the other interesting part of supercoaches

    Swans2012 · 30/03/2016 at 21:40

    Community crew #3 ranked 25

@GAVEDAY · 30/03/2016 at 12:19

I'm trading greene. F it. Barlow too.

No point waiting 2-3 rounds and spewing laters. Corrective trades a-go-go

@GAVEDAY · 30/03/2016 at 12:26

I mean WTF did they do last year anyway??? I feel cheated, I didn't research. It's my fault.

Barlow into parker (using DPP) greene into paps.

Cash into bank.

    neil · 30/03/2016 at 12:43

    they played against two aggressive teams.Viney in his form would touch up most Greene wont have him this week and LIBBA adams and co were good. leave them in. I am. Interesting to see 4 players from johns team no. 1 ranked could easily have Greened it . He would now be 200 less .even with research how do you pick the spud greene or hall barlow or parker it called weekly luck next week barlow and fyfe could score big

@GAVEDAY · 30/03/2016 at 12:55

Greene was on viney? I didn't watch the game…..

sammy · 30/03/2016 at 13:44

had the choice hall or greene tough but coin came down hall would still keep him .Viney for short bursts Melbourne didn't tag

    @GAVEDAY · 30/03/2016 at 14:30

    Research research research.

    So after an afternoon of pondering, DO NOT TRADE IN PAPLEY.

    I'm tipping Ben McGlynn wants his spot back. Sam Reid, Ted Richards and McVeigh are making me nervous for Mills.

      sammy · 30/03/2016 at 15:14

      don't forget another swan is out for 8 weeks so papley will stay on list but I do share your anxiety he needs to go big this week..Having said that if your team is better trading in do it then take it easy. I scored well but I am still going to trade this week so I can do better trades next week when they rise.. i.e.Icant trade in weitering next week without trading this week but my trade crouch to wells is better imo

        @GAVEDAY · 30/03/2016 at 17:11

        I've cooled on trades now. Might sit or just trade Barlow for Parker.

          Russ · 30/03/2016 at 17:53

          Barlow will come good, horror game for the whole Freo team, you might regret it.

            @GAVEDAY · 30/03/2016 at 17:59

            Yeah but he's been a spud last year, I regret taking the chance on him. Bennell will come back in and effect his scoring too.

Alex · 30/03/2016 at 14:35

VC on Pendlebury?

    Gold Rush · 30/03/2016 at 15:03

    Reckon it's a no brainer, especially if Reid is in as he will organise the defence.

DDJ · 30/03/2016 at 15:51

G'day community, I've scored a comfortable 2225 for RD 1 but it's the rookies that have got me considering wasting trades this early.

Like most people I've overlooked Papley (109.9k) and Hewett (123.9k) at the start of the season due to job security and I've started with Parish (202.8k) and Simpkin (223.4k). What are your thoughts on trading out the bombers for the swans?

We all know how important it is to save trades early but we also know that generating cash is crucial, I still think the 2 bombers have better job security but the 2 swans look to have a higher scoring potential for a cheaper price. I definitely would wait until next week to make this decision but I also want to get johannisen in for suckling pig next week if JJ can keep up his incredible form in RD 2 and I'm also considering reversing my mistake in picking JPK over Gazza as JPK looked incredibly lazy and non-existent in a luxury quality midfield.

Would really appreciate your thoughts, community!

P.s. Incredible stuff as always Jock!

    Russ · 30/03/2016 at 17:44

    I reckon going Parish and Simpkin to the Sydney boys might be a waste, I haven't bothered with those Sydney rookies, don't reckon their jobs are secure enough, if you had to, I'd keep Parish and dump Simpkin, the other scenario you mentioned would be a good decision imo, Suckling out for JJ, and JPK out for Gaz…if JPK keeps playing like that he'll drop in price anyway and Suckling has never averaged very high, but JJ could be anything this year.

    Swans2012 · 30/03/2016 at 21:25

    ive got my concerns over papleys js but Hewett would be hard to drop. Maybe consider one of the bombers to Hewett, ideally you'd wait until after round 2 but I understand you want to keep a couple of trades up your sleeve. I like that these sort of trades make $$ without affecting scoring output. Good luck

Ethan017 · 30/03/2016 at 15:54

I see no reverse trades this year??

    derek · 30/03/2016 at 16:22

    you need to have your team-field view. its on left hand side about equal with the first line of the defenders

Russ · 30/03/2016 at 17:35

Hey guys just curious, do the player's prices go up after round 2 or 3?

    @GAVEDAY · 30/03/2016 at 18:12

    after 3

    Alex's · 30/03/2016 at 18:17

    The completion of Round 3

      Russ · 30/03/2016 at 18:31

      Cheers guys

Hotly · 30/03/2016 at 18:16

I started with McCaffer…Hold?

    SCaddict · 30/03/2016 at 20:23

    I reckon you will need to trade there Holty as I just don't see Caff as a decent enough cow for the money.

    But I would wait another week and then pounce on the best performing rookie (you don't already have) over the first two games.

Marvin · 30/03/2016 at 18:17

Better watch out for the big bad supercoach wolf who will blow your house down if it's made of straw. Classic

Mick · 30/03/2016 at 18:26

Hi community. First time post, & love reading all your comments . Read the post from Derek & still having trouble with finding the reverse trades icon. Does anyone know where or why i don't have it? Would appreciate some help. Cheers.

    Russ · 30/03/2016 at 18:30

    Should be right there where Derek said, next to the 'Players" icon left of screen, Mick.

      Mick · 30/03/2016 at 20:43

      Thanks Russ, found it on my iPad. It's the icon next to the analizer bar at the bottom of the field page. For anyone else who is having trouble. Cheers, mick.

James · 30/03/2016 at 19:29

Is it worth trading loersch in forward line to papley? I have loersch and wyatt for the two plays with ruc/fwd swing but starting to second guess that choice. If not, I could always swap loersch and wyatt and instead get papley for wyatt and keep loersch. Let me know your thoughts, as I do not want to have more than two players with 0's each week.

Dan · 30/03/2016 at 23:40

I really want to bring Sam Gray in but I am unsure how. I had him in my team most of the pre season but eventually opted for Greene instead and went bulky in my back line. I want to give Greene another week or too before moving him on, I originally selected him as a keeper or solid stepping zone to a fallen, cheap Martin or Zorko. As such I'm holding solid this week. Johannisen is another one I had in my preseason and another I will look at next week but Daniel Rich is interesting me. Solid score last round to say the least in a struggling lions outfit I thought. 23 touches, 10 contested, ELEVEN tackles, 2 sausage rolls and 4 clearances at 73% efficiency has got me aroused. It's an early call but I feel against a murderous eagles that speaks consistency compared with JJ and the young doggies running around Lyons boys. I will give both options a good look next round, but still I am unsure how to bring in S Gray. Underperformers for mine this round were Houli, Rockliff, Wines, Barlow, Greene. I loathe to get rid of these gentlemen I originally thought as keepers but I feel if Houli and Greene both underperforming next round I may pocket 40k and Get Rich and S Gray in if they perform. I realize I am essentially trading two keeps for two keeps (optimistic keeps even) but at the same time I can see Houli and Greene being outclassed by others. I scored 2267 this round, not bad but spewing I took Nic Nat with my loophole when I had Danger as Captain before. Can't complain with the likes of Fyfe and Pendles though. What are your thoughts community?

    Dan · 31/03/2016 at 00:14

    Thinking Greene – Papley and swap Adams for Brown to play on field possibly, and Brown for Rich. My lines would be Houli, Laird, Simpson, Birchall, Rich, Dea // Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, Adams/Papley. Looks uneven but SC doesn't care what lines your points come from and I feel there's value up front. Will also pocket $20k and will target S Gray with B Crouch or Mills possibly. Will consider next week, holding this week.

JamiesNinjas13 · 31/03/2016 at 09:49

Hi community, let me give you some thoughts on Sam Gray.
Has a great story and came up through the Port Adelaide ranks (the magpies in the SANFL).
He is regarded as Robbie Gray 2.0 (now I am not saying he is better but he plays the exact same position as Robbie but never got his chances earlier because he is the 'assistant' of Robbie).
Big accumulator of the ball and a pocket rocket small midfield-fwd.
Improved his tank this year and will slot into the best 22.
In saying all this, I never had the balls to pick him, but who ever gambled on him, it looks like you found yourself a winning POD.

Josh · 31/03/2016 at 10:47

Hello community, fairly happy with my on field team with a score of 2200 despite having Fyfe as captain, pendles and Rockliff in losing sides. However been away for the last three weeks has left me with three rookies who may not get a game for a while.

My question to you all is do I get rid of Robinson so that I can correct these rookies given that if I wait another week I will only be able to trade 2 in before the price rises?? I already have Rockliff and rich as well so I'm thinking too many lions given how many games they will win and the bye rounds.

Cheers, josh

Canny the Manny · 01/04/2016 at 14:39

When do player prices change? It's not this round is it?

    Moz · 01/04/2016 at 17:53

    end of next round

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