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The PANIC Room: Round 1

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PatchCoachKingsLogoYou can hear it, throbbing, in the streets of Melbourne. The place is abuzz. From Geelong to Upwey, from the crashing waves of Bonbeach to the plains of Werribee, football. is. back!

And with it, Supercoach.

And with Supercoach; absolute bloody panic.

It’s bloody pandemonium, but that’s why we’re here. That’s why we’re in the Panic Room. Let’s dive right on in and be panicked together.

THURSDAY TERRORS

We’re got a special Thursday edition of the Panic Room because the AFL still haven’t sorted this bloody Easter thing out and are persisting with the incredibly inconvenient Thursday Night Football.

So, because of that, we’ve got a 40-minute window between teams being named and lockout commencing. These 40 minutes will be mildly stressful*

ThisIsFine

*artist’s depiction of mildly stressful 

But enough of these screenshots and memes and pictures and rubbish. If Crouching sees this he’ll fly kick me right in the face hole. The time for humour is over. The time for analysis is now.

I’m going to jump into tonight’s teams and the news from that; then we’re going to look at what we do know about upcoming team selections tonight and plan ahead. Then I’m going to chuck a guide of “How To Not Freak About About Your Player Not Being Selected 30 Minutes Before Lockout”.

I’ll do my best to update this tonight when the teams do come out.

RICHMOND VS CARLTON

Before I get too into this, Lekdog tried his hand at his own podcast last night covering team releases. It’s more in depth than I can go into here – if you’re on lunch break and have a spare 10 minutes this is essential to tonight’s game. https://soundcloud.com/alexie-lekdog-beovich/pod-cast-richmond-v-carlton-teams

In the abridged Panic Room version, the big news here is Brett Deledio is OUT for the tigers. I know some people were thinking of starting him as a sneaky forward premium, but for the love of god don’t do that.

Deledio is out this week, in doubt for next week and absolutely reclaiming the various monikers I threw at him last year. Don’t select this bastard until we see him playing a full game of football.

On top of that, Richmond big man Ivan Maric is out with back soreness. Shaun Grigg will also miss. These two aren’t overly fantasy relevant. Neither is rookie Daniel Rioli, who despite being named for round 1 at 157k in the forward line is “likely to be used in a similar role to the sub” according to Lekdog. I’ve been wrong before about round 1 rookies but I’m avoiding him after his 3 NAB games netted him an average of 43 from 80% game time.

Speaking of rookies, Connor Menadue, Corey Ellis, Jacob Weitering and Sam Kerrdige have been named. I have all of them except Ellis, who is just a bit too pricey, and would expect them to slot into most sides as well. All solid, all capable. Charlie Curnow was named emergency, but we’ll get a look at him later in the year.

Beyond that, there’s not a massive amount of fantasy relevant news in this game. Kade Simpson and Sam Docherty have been named on each wing, which is promising for those looking at them but we’re pretty much done from tonight.

THE PANIC

This is where the uncertainty kicks in. Back your premos and keep a cool head. We’ve been planning this for weeks, many of us for months. Don’t undo all this research on the back of a whisper some players might miss, or restructure your side to fit a left field pick who you hadn’t looked at who apparently averaged 346 in the NAB according to some bloke on Twitter.

You back your premos, you back yourself. If a premium is not named, stay calm. Look for someone of a similar price and pop them in. Fall back on solid picks. For example, if (god forbid) Ablett isn’t named, look at Pendlebury, look at Priddis, at Mundy. Don’t suddenly think Adam Treloar is a good pick because he’s a point of difference it lets you upgrade Matty Dea to Zac Bloody Dawson and gives you enough cash to swing someone forward and do fandangled magic. No. Like for like. Keep it simple.

Mid pricers present more of a difficulty, but I’ll put some clusters of reasonably safe picks you can swap between. I’m not saying I would select these each of these blokes, but they are options.

DEFENDERS MIDFIELDERS RUCKS FORWARDS
Matt Suckling Tom Liberatore Just don’t… Please. Jordan De Goey
Tom Sherdian Matt Crouch Nope, not listening. Jack Steele
Jesse Lonergan Brad Crouch Ugh. Daniel Wells
Trent McKenzie Zac Smith if you insist.

Rookies are the terrifying prospect. They are where things go wrong. We know Callum Mills and Ryan Davis are confirmed starters on top of those named for Carlton and Richmond.

Jock HQ has been all over getting Coachkings ready to play tonight, and this weekend, and haven’t had the chance to put out an exclusive rookie cheat sheet (Jock has an overall cheat sheet here). So, I’ve chucked one together. It’s not a brilliantly crafted cheat sheet but it’ll be out of date in a few hours so I suppose it doesn’t really matter.

CheatSheet

Yes, I’m awful at photoshop. Yes, the guy with the teacup is meant to be there. It shouldn’t be needed, because you should all have your lives in order and have sorted that 40 minutes tonight to sort out your bloody team. However, hopefully that sheet should provide security to those of you who haven’t been able to organise your time properly to take care of the important things.

Righteo community, I’ll be back when the teams are announced, but until then, flood the comments. Check out absolutely everything we’ve been up to over the pre-season which Jock has thrown together here.

Take these last few hours to say goodbye to your loved ones. Supercoach starts tonight. You keep your eyes on that. Not the dog needing a walk, none of this ‘going away’ rubbish, and forget that Jesus rising from the dead business. Supercoach. See you soon, in the comments and updates, community.

 

4.00 Update: The panic is setting in. I’m once again torn between my loyalty to Gaz and security and sensibility of Pendlebury.  In less self-indulgent news, we have rookie list upgrades!

Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti from Essendon, Ryan Davis from GC, the Swans’ Tom Papley, American Jason Holmes (StK) Brant Colledge from the Eagles are now on senior lists and can be selected. We know Davis is playing, and I’ll eat my own shoe if ‘Tippa” isn’t named, but the rest are uncertain.

Papley played NAB 2 and 3 for an average of 54, and is a 109k forward. Colledge scored 7 in his one and only NAB cup game (from 65% game time) and Holmes is 284k in the ruck. Pass on those last two – probably pass on Papley considering the quality of forward rooks this year.

5.00 Update: Dion Prestia has been confirmed by the Gold Coast Suns as a starter in round 1. Coach Rodney Eade said Prestia had passed every test, and added “he’ll certainly give our midfield a great injection” implying he will play midfield. I feel dropping Lonergan or Hall on the back of this news would be premature.

5:50 Update: I just put Scott Pendlebury in my side after Gary Ablett lasted a whole 23 minutes without me changing him once. Record for today.

St Kilda’s twitter has announced Jade Gresham will debut this weekend against Port Adelaide. He’s a 144k midfielder who averaged 60 in the NAB, but had only 50% game time over the course of the pre-season matches.

6:00 Update: No late changes to either side tonight. And I don’t have to announce the subs which makes me so unbelievably happy.

6:18 Update: The panic is real. The Phantom has tweeted saying Brad Crouch has been named. Teams due at 6.25.

6:25 Update: TEEEEAAAAAMMMS

Ben Kennedy and Clayton Oliver have been named for Melbourne, as has Stevie J for the Giants. Oscar McDonald – brother of Tom – has edged Lynden Dunn out of the side. He’s a 155k key defender.

Righteo, Gary Ablett has been named on the ball alongside Dion Prestia. Livewire Aaron Hall has been named on a half forward flank. Essendon have been devious and NOT named Sam Grimely, Michael Hartley and Nick Kommer. I’m surprised by that. A lot. Matt Dea is in the backline and Andrew McDonald-Tipungwuti is on the bench.

Paul Seedsman, Wayne Milera (170-oddk FWD) and Mitch McGovern (123k FWD) have been named for Adelaide, while Dean Gore has not. Jed Anderson is in for the Roos, and Daniel Wells will play. Both Matt Crouch and Brad Crouch have been named; Matt in the middle and Brad on the bench. Ben Jacobs – North’s tagger – will not play.

Sydney have named Callum Mills, George Hewett and elevated rookie Tom Papley to play Collingwood, who will bring Adam Treloar out in white and black stripes for his first H&A game. No nasty surprises in that game.

Marcus Adams has beaten out Kieran Collins for a spot in the Dogs’ round 1 side. Matthew Suckling will start on a half back flank and a sneaky inclusion has appeared, with Josh Dunkley named. He’s a 117k midfielder who didn’t play in the NAB cup played NAB 2 in which he scored 94 from 82% TOG at 68% DE (cheers to Connor for picking that up!)

Charlie Dixon has continued to defy God’s Will and – aptly on this weekend – returns from the dead to take on St Kilda. Jimmpy Toumpas makes his debut for Port as well after crossing from Melbourne (no in SC), and as I said earlier, Jade Gresham will debut. Jasper Pittard has been named on an extended bench, but I can’t imagine them dropping him.

The extended bench carnage continues, with popular mid-priced back Ryan Harwood sitting on the Lions’, alongside a smokie in Tom Cutler, who Lek is keen on. Brant Colledge has been named after coming off the rookie list an hour ago, but is still in danger of being culled. Also on that bench for the Weagles are Liam Duggan and Kane Lucas.

Rookie Cats defender Tom Ruggles has not been named, and anyone looking at Jake Kolodjashnij should expect him to be culled from the Cats’ extended bench. Zac Smith has been named in the ruck, Rhys Stanley at CHF with goalsneak Lincoln McCarthy next to him on a flank. No word on Sam Mengola, who hasn’t been named, and Daniel Menzel is also on that extended bench.

Hawthorn has named two kids called Blake Hardwick and Kaiden Brand (123k forward and defensive rookies) out of absolutely nowhere on an extended bench. Daniel Howe is also on that bench.

 

PANIC STATION

Sort of. Only Richmond and Carlton players are locked out after 7.10 tonight – we still have unlimited trades until final lockout on Monday. However, we can’t trade players who have already played.

We do need to move on some rookies – namely the backline ones who have turned out to be mirages in the most barren of deserts. Here I was hoping for a dessert smorgasboard of them. Right – Hartley might be back against bigger sides, but with Melbourne next week and Port the week after he’s now a downgrade option. I’m keeping Grimely as a loophole. Mills and Hewett should have reasonable JS, Papley less so.

Brant Colledge is an enigma, so I’m steering clear, especially with a few to come back into the West Coast side. I avoid Hawthorn rookies like the plague. I’m just sliding Josh Dunkley into my side between sentences – although he’s on an extended bench, too. Oh god I hate Thursday night football. I liked what I saw from McGovern, but don’t think his job security is all that great. Milera should be good to go if you want to pay the price – but I don’t. Marcus Adams is in my side and should be safe for enough rounds to increase in price.


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Scyb

Cant wait for the season to start! I have done my homework. Now to reap the rewards

Patch

The excitement is throbbing Scyb! Love it mate!

Harro

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP

KK or Yeo?

rhys

KK

Paddy

Bulk Bogan – 928333

Join Up

Tret

Love it Patch!

Just wondering what people are doing with the loophole this week and who your R3 is?

Wattsieesq

Using ruggles as my loop hole

rosy

Sunday/Monday games are slightly preferrable for a loophole option for obvious reasons.

Melbourne have the most Sunday/Monday games this year at 11, followed by Carlton, Essendon and St. Kilda with 10 each.

Traditionally, R3 has been used for the loophole and if you put it all together…..Melbourne backup ruckman Mitch King (RUCK/FWD) at $117k is a fairly solid option. Shouldn't see any game time, very cheap, plays the most Sunday/Monday games and can swing into the FWD line if required.

Patch

I'm toying with one of the King boys, or the Loersch boy from GC at 102k – who doesn't play on a Friday all year.

rosy

I had Loersch at R3 for weeks until a couple of days ago when it dawned on me that he is in the same team as GAJ, who will be a major loophole player this year.

Of course if you don't have GAJ it's no biggie.

Holty

if you have ablett Patch, Loersch wouldnt really be a great option for the loophole imo. unless you dont plan on using the vc on Ablett all season?

Crowmagnon

Goetz from WB. not DPP but dogs play later in early rounds.

Scyb

Final Team

Laird, KK, Johan, Weitering, Dea, Brown (Hartley, Ruggles)

Gazza, Priddis, Danger, Rocky, Parker, Wines, Libba, Mills, Gore, Keays, Davis

Gawn, Nic Nat, Grimley

Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (B Kennedy, Mcdonald-Tip)

Any thoughts community?

Jimmy

solid!

Patch

very nice mate.

Shinboner

Nice team!

Grace

Wow… That Midfield!

You have a few rookies not starting Round 1 (Keays, Gore, Ruggles, Grimley..)
Can I ask your reasoning for still including these players in your starting lineup?

motsy

He posted this before teams were named

Nick

Pendlebury vs priddis
Thoughts would be much appreciated!!

Patch

Can't go wrong with either. I'd say Pendles.

bAps

Priddis easily.

Wizard of Ertz

I changed Pendlebury to Priddis a week ago and every time i look at the team i like that change more and more.

REN

Going for a different structure this year.

Shaw, Laird, Harwood, Dea, Brown, Hartley (adams, newman)

Fyfe, Danger, GAZ, Gray, Rocky, Libba, Crouch, Mills (Hewett, Keays, Davis)

Goldy, NicNat (wyatt)

Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (McCarthy, Tippa)

Only 5k left.

What do we think?

Would really appreciate any feedback!

Onur

Very solid looking team mate, the only issue I see here is that you don't really have any stand out POD's making your team very similar to that of thousands, but aside from that mate looking solid!

Chaz

No need for a starting POD, picking a solid team without a POD is fine, then use every other players POD's against them as not having a POD becomes your POD 🙂

Patch

Nice mate – very shallow defence. Which Crouch you got, out of interest? Is that Brad?

rosy

Excellent starting lineup.

Don't get caught up in the POD/Cookie Cutter nonsense. It's far more important that you start with a strong, solid lineup that doesn't rely heavily on gambles and a convoluted trading strategy.

You have a whole season's worth of trading to find the right POD and set yourself apart from the pack. Taking your gambles during the season means that at least you have some data to go off, as opposed to at the start when there is very little evidence and A LOT of hot air.

Afterall, there's award for being different and all of the top 1000 teams will end up being extremely similar anyway.

Pinot

934129

Panic has set in, i need to fill my League.
All welcome, our community here will put on a good challenge.

Cheers
Pinot

BigHaydos

something absolutely making me lose my mind.

Option 1: Goldstein, libba and 120k in the bank
OR
Option 2: Gawn, Hanners and 900bucks in the bank…..

Patch

Depends on the rest of your side, Haydos, to see where that spare cash would go.

Adam

Gawn and Libba

Oli

The way i see it Goldy much better than hannerz, libba should be pretty safe and 120 k in the bank is handy

Vex

Shaw, Laird, Smith, Weitering, Dea, Adams (brown, hartley)

Fyfe, Danger, Gazza, Ward, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Kennedy (hewett, keays, davis)

Goldy, Nic Nat (loersch)

Barlow, Franklin, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (tippa, mccarthy)

Thoughts? 10k left.

Patch

Love the Ward pick, Vex. I like that side a lot.

Seps Champs

GAZ OR PENDLES
nah fuq this i quit supercoach

Patch

I've gone Gary but it's tearing me apart in the way INXS couldn't begin to imagine.

Paul

Gazza, lock him in for 150+ this week. Will probably split his time between mids and forwards, so will probably kick 6 goals to go with his 30+

Maestro

Crowley?

Scyb

gazza by far

Kyle

Priddis and JJ or Suckling or Shaw and Hunter? Please peeps help out a brother

davo

priddis and jj

Patch

Concur, Davo.

Kyle

Idk I don't trust JJ at all, anyone else good around that price?

Patch

Have a gander at Shannon Hurn?

Rabbits16

shaw and johannisen

Liam

Final team:

DEF: Laird, Birchall, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Collins)

MID: Danger, Gaz, Ward, JPK, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Bkennedy (Gresham, Davis, Keays)

RUC: Goldy, Martin (wyatt)

FWD: Dusty, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Mccarthy, Tippa)

Thoughts?
Cheers

marcus

Gibson laird or simpson for d3

bAps

Laird

Rabbits16

i feel gibson wil get 60s and 70s

Jock

Oy community.. here she is.. nearling finalisation JR Brumby FC 2016:

DEF: H. Shaw, B. Houli, R. Laird, D. Rich, M. Dea, M. Hartley Bench: A. McDonald-Tipungwuti, T. Ruggles
MID: N. Fyfe, S. Pendlebury, J. Selwood, S. Sidebottom, O. Wines, T. Liberatore, B. Kennedy, R. Davis Bench: B. Keays, TBC, TBC
RUCK: N. Naitanui, M. Gawn Bench: S. Grimley
FWD: Barlow, T. Greene, A. Hall, D. Wells, J. Simpkin, S. Kerridge Bench: M. Brown, M. Adams

Nick

I would trade out Simpkin sub Ben Kennedy into your forwards and trade in mills. Also would chuck menadue onto your mid bench. Otherwise great looking team! Good luck this season mate.

SCaddict

Good suggestions Nick for mine.

Would take Mills over Simpkin in a heartbeat myself but hey it's not my team and I'm sure the Father of Fantasy knows what he is doing.

Shake n bake

I know well find out soon but do you think Ruggles will get a gig?

MY TWO CENTS

Far be it for me to question the master but I'll call it as I see it. Looks like u are hanging your hopes on Rich at the expense of danger. No Ablett, rocky or danger and Davis on field big big call. The is putting them on the chopping block!

Jock

I like to have solid base of keepers to kick off each season – rapt to to have 14 candidates to stay in the side.

Patch

The Sidebum! The Jelwood! The pods… makes me as aroused as I've been all week. Thoughts on Simpkin? Very little discussion on him at all really. Think you'd do better with Mills in the guts than Simpkin up forward personally. But, you see things in this game other men and women do not.

Jock

Simpkin all the way old mate! He'll outscore the Mills boy

Kyle

no rockliff either Jock?

Hammers_Eagles

Jock I am tossing up between Sidebottom, Hannerbury, Cripps Priddis for M4. Can you help?

bAps

No Dusty, no Goldy, no Gaz, no Danger, no Rocky… Bloody risky there old mate, but I love the hell out of those midfield PODs!

Phil

TBC @ M9, please don't tell me your picking Tom Bellchambers in your side Jock
1.he sucks
2.he suspended
3.hes not even a midfielder. Has the father of fantasy lost his mind?

DadSmasher

Your D8 is a non-starter Jock

Big Bob Francis

DEF: H. Shaw, R. Laird, S. Docherty, E. Yeo, J. Johannisen, J. Veitering
(A. McDonald-Tipungwuti, M. Dea)
MID: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, M. Priddis, S. Thompson, T. Greene, J. Polec, C. Mills, S. Kerridge
(J. Gresham, J. Dunkley, R. Davis)
RUCK: M. Gawn, M. Lobbe
(S. Grimley)
FWD: C. Wingard, M. Suckling, J. De Goey, D. Wells, C. Menadue, T. Papley
(M. McGovern, M. Adams

Still Steven Thomas Ruggling a bit whether to pick DeGoey or say a Simpkin if say DeGoey was one of the Colliwobbles on the goey. Keen to hear any thoughts from you Legends of Jock. I'm all ears as Bunga Hurn used to say to me…

Boris Baconbeer

Mills is a first year player in a team full of prem mids not only that he is an inexperienced 200k. Simpkin is a cash generator mills is a cash generator rather have the one that has security and exp. I agree with the call

Charlie

Having some last minute panic here.

Can't decide between having Rich in Def and Parker in Mid or downgrading Rich to Sheridan/Lonergan then upgrading Parker to Pendles/Hanners.

Can anyone with a clear perspective give me their insight?

Marc

I think Rich is a more proven scorer than either Sheridan or Lonergan. So i'd be sticking with Rich who will spend some time running through the midfield. Parker is a GUN – trust your premos

Patch

Rich and Parker the better options, Charlie.

Mike

Keep Parker for sure.

Rabbits16

i feel Rich in defence. not feeling sheridan or lonergan. so keep Rich.ive been tossing up with pendlebury but for some reason feel he will start slow and work into the season come round 4. dunno why. ive been tossing up in the same way you have. can u get Rich & S Mitchell? i keep thinkin mitchell will be great. not feeling the swannies guys this yr and im a swans fan

Shake n bake

Had a good look at Jocks Higgos Barrons Patchs Lekdogs & Big Carls teams & 1 major common thread NONE have Goldy!!

SCaddict

Lekdog's initial reveal had Goldy in it although that was some time ago so perhaps he ditched him since. Although BVC also wasn't rolling with him either.

But that doesn't bother me one iota as I'm very settled with Goldy in my own line-up fwiw.

Patch

Goldstein is now in my side. I have seen the light and was foolish to stray from it. Lek still has Goldstein.

Shake n bake

correction Lek does have him.

barbecueshapes

Ok, lock this shit in.

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Rich, Weiter, Dea, Hartley (AMT, Ruggles)
MID: Fyfe, Danger, Pandles, Ablett, Rocky, Libba, BCrouch, Mills (Menadue, Hewett, Davis)
RUCK: NicNat, Gawn (Chol)
FWD: Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Brown (Grimley, Adams)

Bit light on in the Back/FWD but there's not really anyone I'm desperate to get in

Patch

Very good side mate. You're not too light in the bookends at all, I feel. Rich a nice point of difference.

Andrew

Too risky to start with Sheridan and Lonergan? Also, do I stick with S. Gray or go for the more reliable choice D. Martin?

Kyle

I have Gray and think he can average 100-105

Patch

Dustin Martin will be a top 5 forward this year – Gray won't be (I'd wager, at least) so the question answers itself, as much as I love a good POD. You're safer with Dusty, but he'll start slow I feel.

I don't reckon it's too risky in the backline to do that – you're all set there.

Holty

i dont mind the gray pick but not sure he will average more. His back end to last year was great but tbe last few rounds did not have Wines. I honestly dont think he will play as much midfield time as people are expecting.

Marc

i'm tossing up between having Brown in DEF and Cripps in MID or upgrading Brown > Rich and downgrading Cripps > Keays

thoughts community?

lineup looks like this:

DEF: Shaw, laird, gibson, weitering, dea, hartley (brown, ruggles)
MID: Danger, Gaz, Priddis, Wines, Cripps, Libba, B Crouch, Mills (Gore, Menadue, Davis)
RUCKS: Nic Nat, Gawn (Wyatt)
FWD: Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, B Kennedy, Kerridge (Grimley, AMT)

Patch

Love the Cripps call Marc! I'd keep him in there!

Cliffy

Got some panic right here…

SC Draft question guys:

Out of the eligible Mids I have, which of these 5 will fill out the last two starting spots for my team? (can field 3 Mids, have locked R.Gray into M1 for this Round):

L.Parker, L.Shuey, T.Adams, A.Miles, S.Coniglio

Cheers guys 🙂

Patch

The first three, Cliffy!

Cliffy

Cheers Patch!

Nico

Montagna anyone?

barbecueshapes

Not pretty but generally gets the job done … Decent POD I'd think

Maestro

Not Pretty? Have a closer look, I'd say very pretty!! Nice work Nico

Nico

Cheers Maestro

Kyle

would fit if I could, had him all pre season and think he will be number 1 forward this year

Patch

If he was 50k cheaper we'd be all over him, but 600k is a lot of money to throw at an older bloke with who only played half a season last year. I love him, but I'll look at upgrading to him.

Nico

Cheers for the reply Patch, he's tempting me at the moment.

bAps

Not going to start with him, as he's maxed out in price (and because I can't afford him haha), but he'll find his way into my team at some stage throughout the season.

Chill

do we still have unlimited trades this weekend as long as we are trading in/out players from teams who havent played yet??

barbecueshapes

Yep

Chill

Cheers!

Youngy

Thought's on my team community —> https://gyazo.com/925791400ed30e70039cc62272be58b… <— $900 in the bank

I need to find the money to go Collins to Kennedy most likely. and I don't really like Parker in my mid, Id prefer Pendelbury but I can't really take 80k from anywhere without causing bigger problems.

I might be forced to go Dusty to Greene but I really don't want, as I am a tigers supporting and it would be nice to cheer for Dusty.

Shake n bake

Haha I did exactly that went Green upgraded Wines to pendles!

barbecueshapes

Is Keays gonna play?

Patch

We'll find out in two hours, shapes! I feel pretty confident he will.

Rabbits16

keays is poo

SCaddict

In case anyone may be interested here's Jay Clark's onfield side which was posted on the HS today:

Shaw, KK, Sheridan, McKenzie, Weitering, Dea
Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Wines, Cripps, Libba, Mills
Gawn, Smith
Barlow, Greene, De Goey, Wells, Kerridge, Brown

It's always good to get teams from outside the community as it bypasses a lot of the group think that goes on here which has its pros and cons.

Chill

Thanks SCaddict. Love the Cripps call but not a fan of the weaker ruck choices. Interesting none-the-less.

Patch

Love that thinking, SC. Greene bugs me a lot. I just don't see it.

Rucks interesting me.

Francis

Thoughts guys?

DEF: Shaw Houli Laird Lonergan Dea Brown (Hartley Adams)
MID: Fyfe Dangerfield Ablett Rockliff Libba Mills Kennedy Gresham (Hewett Keays Davis)
RUCK: Goldstein Gawn (Loersch)
FWD: Martin Barlow Hall Wells Lyons Kerridge (Menadue AMT)

Thanks!

Patch

Nice, mate. Houli an astute selection

bAps

Looks bloody good mate.
Personally, I'd rather have another premo mid, instead of a midpricer at D4. I'd be either gettting rid of Lonergan (depending on how much cash you already have spare), or swapping Houli out for a rookie and using that cash to bring in a mid. Only because of the scarcity of genuine mid rookies this season.

Better Luck Nxt Yr

Is there a Jock Reynolds Group this year????

Patch

Not this year, sad to say – but we can all go head to head at CoachKings all year!

ian

gazza 6 games last year, no pre-season games, injury prone, 32yo, going forward….no thanks

Holty

you maybe right but i honestly dont think they will start him this year if he is not right as we all know what happened last year. if he starts rd1, he will be lockd in my team.

Paul

He was BOG in a few of those games from last year though. He doesn't need time to make an impact, he just comes in and goes bang.

MOC

Rance or Houli?

Patch

Houli as a running back should be more consistent.

bAps

Houli

MOC

Cheers guys, much appreciated

ian

And yes, I have montagna as a pod

Ben

When do unlimited trades stop

Patch

once the final lockout happens on Monday, but partial lockouts begin at 7.10 tonight

Holty

once round 1 is completed.

Rabbits16

when ablett gets injured. i.e rd 1

Tret

Tom Papley been upgraded.

Worth consideration?

Patch

Not for me. As the update said, he averaged next to nothing in the NAB and I can't see him playing too many.

Tom

Is anyone doing the captains loophole this year?

SCaddict

Most are mate.

Wattsieesq

Not me pal. I've got Daisy as my perma captain lol

Rabbits16

doing the captains poophole. straight up the clanger yee haa

Tom

What are Cox's chances of playing?

Patch

Slim, unless we see a few injuries down at Eddie land.

Henry

A few places available in these two competitive leagues.
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199534

Hayley

D: Shaw, Laird, JJ, Sheridan, Weitering, Dea (AMT, Ruggles)
M; Dangerfield, Ablett, Shiel, Cripps, Zaka, Libba, Mills, Menadue (Petracca, Dunkley, Davis)
R: Goldstein, Nic Nat
F: Barlow, Buddy, Hall, Wells, B Kennedy, Kerridge (Milera, McCarthy)

Flaccid Jaff

Is Zaka zaharakis? I like the call on him, glad someone is doing it. I rate him highly, but just cant see that Essendon side helping him out at all. I just got rid of him. Cant see him finishing top 20 mids, or making more than 100k, so couldn't justify it. But if it comes off for you, well done lad!

Paul

Def: Shaw Birchall Yeo Johannisen Weitering Dea (McDonald-Tipuntwuti, Ruggles)
Mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Cripps, Liberatore, B Crouch, Mills, Oliver (Gresham, Hewett, Davis)
Ruck: Gawn, Kreuzer (Loersch)
For: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Kennedy, McCarthy)

Hammers_Eagles

Can't decide on M4. Priddis, Sidebottom, Hanneberry Cripps or Pendles???

Paul

His first and last NAB game got me over the line on Cripps. Cracked the 100 easy from just 53% game time. Fair bit cheaper than the other blokes too.

DadSmasher

Gibbs/Murphy seem to the beneficiaries of cripps, not supercoach players.

Jimbo Jones

don't know if its been mentioned yet……good inside info that Jarros Lyon is travelling emergency for Crows

The_Black_Mamba

Rockliff, wines, sidebottom, selwood, parker pick one

dean gardiner

flip a coin on first 3 for me.

Marco_Polo94

sidebottom

Bill

Selwood

Liam

Cripps worth a look.

'Don't Blush Babbie'

C.Oliver to debut for the Demons, will have very good JS

Bill

Agree, would love to pick him but Mills has him covered for mine

JDP

HELP PLEASE
Rocky or Wines??
Cheers

Marco_Polo94

I'd go Wines. Have a mate who's dad's the chairman and from what he said didn't excite me about rocky. can always corrective trade if he blasts out of the gates but i doubt it.

Sam

Random Question: What happens if you have a full league but one team has not completed their 30 players in the team by lockout tonight. Do they have until Monday to finalise it reducing players who have played being available? Or do they get booted out of the league tonight? Thanks if anyone can assist!

Silly

Their team gets auto picked

Ryan

Who to take at M5 out of Cripps, Wines, Parker, or Shiel

Pete

Parker

Patch

I've got Shiel, then Wines. Parker and Cripps are tough to split but I'd take Parker's experience.

Luviboy1

Brilliant write up Patch. Having a cool head at the start of the season is vital, however Im struggling to stay composed and my mouse pointer is hovering over the reset button.

Last M3 spot, who gets it out of Gaz, Priddis, Gray or Ward? Other premo mids are Fyfe, Pendles, Selwood, Rocky and Libba.

dean gardiner

priddis for mine mate, think he will be top 8 by end of year, and wont change to much in value.

Patch

Reckon the only one of those that could blow up in your face would be Gaz. Priddis simply because of the consistency and durability.

SCaddict

It could also blow up in your face NOT starting with Gaz.

Will be interesting to see how it all plays out this Saturday arvo.

rowdz

I have a two part question
Currently have J Lonergan at D3 and i have tweaked my side to possibly turn him into S Hurn.
I know it maybe a silly question but this would be a good thing wouldn't it?
What's the communities view of Hurn?

Patch

I'm really keen on Hurn Rowdz and he is locked into my backline.

Ryan

Need a MID/FWD under 260k… What do people think of Lyons/Menzel/others?

Patch

I'm really keen on Menzel. I assume you have Wells, otherwise Ben Kennedy is one I think we should be jumping on.

Rabbits16

hawks guy James Sicily $222,900

Rambos_Radish

Great article Patch!

My team is as follows…

D. —> R. Laird, K. Kolodjashnij, G. Birchall, J. Johannisen, J. Weitering, M. Dea, (M. Brown, M. Hartley)
M —> N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, J. Selwood, T. Rockliff, O. Wines, T. Liberatore, C. Mills, J. Gresham, (D. Gore, N. Freeman, R. Davis)
R —> N. Natainui, M. Gawn, (S. Grimley)
F —> M. Barlow, Z. Merrett, L Franklin, D. Wells, C. Menadue, S. Kerridge, (L. McCarthy, A. McDonald – Tipungwuti)

Bank: $600
– Rookies subject to change

A few burning thoughts:
1. I'm not convinced with defensive mid pricers including JJ, yet I don't trust rookies and I don't want to spend a fortune on defenders. SO really you cant win!
2. I wouldn't mind a bit of a larger war chest but I don't know who to get rid of to achieve this!
3. I really want to inject Ben Kennedy but as you would notice I have a grand total of $600 and so that's not looking likely.

Any thoughts on changes would be appreciate.

SC_Crazy_Chick

Great Rucks!

I reckon Franklin is overrated these days and wonder how consistent he'll be..

You have a lot of players coming off injuries (KK, Fyfe, Selwood, Lib, Rockliff?)
I was looking at all these players but chosen to have Ablett as my promo risk and looked for some safer high-mid options that I can easily upgrade once the consistent high fliers are clearer.

Definitely not sold on my strategy either but thought I'd share my thoughts

Marco_Polo94

Think I'm happy with starting rucks and forwards now, haven't changed them for a week so that must be a good sign. Rookies will change tonight most likely, and not sure I'll have the nerve to start B. Smith and Ablett, but anyway as it stands:

DEF: Shaw, KK, Smith, Dea, Adams, Hartley (Brown, Juggles)
MID: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Gray, Libba, B. Crouch, Mills (Keays, Menadue, Davis)
RUCK: Nic Nat, Gawn (Chol)
FWD: Barlow, J. Riewoldt, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (Grimley, AMT)

Good luck to everyone for the 40 minutes of hell once teams drop.

Moz

Don't know whether to have R.Gray or O.Wines in my MIDS, who out of the two do people think will average more?

Wattsieesq

Gray

BKW

Gray

Bender

Gray will avg more, but Wines is better value