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PODCAST: Round 1- Time to LOCK and LOAD!

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Supercoach 2016 TIME TO LOACK AND LOAD!

HOW GOOD IS THIS!

For me this week is better than Christmas – better than chance bumpings in the night with Narelle …. hells bells it even tops bloody Moomba! This is the week where we are all champions. All confident and ready to jump that trench, all salivating at the prospect of  tearing the fantasy competition a new one.

This week;

  • We start with my rather controversial decision to go into battle without the bald genius – GAJ
  • We ruthlessly tear away the preseason crap and expose those potential hype picks that Higgo eluded to in his stunning brain thingy article.
  • We focus on MID Premo selections and gather in amazement as Crouching’s Slipper delivers more wisdoms.
  • Rookies folks – we trial and nail the best that the God’s have delivered unto us for season 2016
  • Important announcement re the roll out of CoachKings to venues over the next few weeks

Sit back, chuck the old earphone bud things in your ear and enjoy this week’s crucial trouser defining podcast.




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Connor

What are the communities thoughts on the best rookies for the Backline, Midfield, and Forward Line? Let's say 4 rookies from each of the three positions named, whilst only including just 1 of Mills and Oliver (as not many of us will have that sort of cash!)

Brad

DEF: J.Weitering M.Dea M.Hartley N.Broad

MID: C.Mills C.Menadue G.Hewett R.Davis

FWD: B.Kennedy S.Kerridge M.Adams A.Mcdonald-Tipungwuti

@footy_bec

McCarthy might be a sneaky inclusion for FWD too. But essentially the list as above.

NickV

Jock you bloody ripper! Im only 15 and I read every article and listen to every podcast. Love your work!

The Beard

Hey community!

I have been trying to get the final touches on my team and just can't get it right. I've ended up going light up in the defenders. Though overall it was to swap Wines to Pendles so I don't know if I should follow through.

Would love some opinions.

Currently running with :

Shaw, Bartel, Weitering, Dea, Hartley, Broad (Brown, Collins) (I can dump a rookie for someone around that 330k-360k mark though I just don't know who)

Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, GAJ, Rocky, M Crouch, Liba, Mills (Gremsham, Petracca, Davis)

Goldy, Nic Nat (Grimley)

Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (Menadue, AMT)

Please give us some opinions lads. If you think of a good defender for 330-370k ish I can drop Pendles back to Wines and replace a rookie. Everywhere else I'm pretty happy!

Brad

Tommy Sheridan in your defence for a rookie and your team looks perfect!

Rick

Mate I reakon keep it as is, similar structure to mine, very much the same in fact. Have a look and comment your suggestions on my team please , cheers, rick

The Beard

Looking for your team mate? Whereis it?

Southern S

Not sure I'd do that. personally, Pendles is a gun.

I'd drop Greene, move brown up forward and you should have enough players each week in the forward line, using menadue/brown/AMT and kennedy to fill F5 and F6.

You'd then have enough to lock in a gun defender with less risk and keep dependles.

The Beard

That's a good idea mate. Thank you! Who would you recommend? I can only really see Laird or Simpson and he's a tad out of price unless I cut someone else down like Grem for a rookie.

BigHaydos

not being rude, but i honestly dont see a single player that presents a point of difference at all

Tim

Are you suggesting that there are 200,000 teams with that exact line up???? The Beard is endeavouring to pick the best side (I'm assuming) he can. Who cares if he apparently doesn't have any PODs? He might just have the best team and that's all that matters. How much cash have you got left Beardo? Roughly $140k?

Fail

I believe matt crouch is a pod tbh

The Beard

Didn't find it rude, didn't see a need for a pod. Although I'd actually say to run a midfield that stacked and a ruck that stacked is a bit of a pod.

mark

way to light down forward and back. good luck lol

The Beard

Forwards I'm quite comfortable with. What's your line up?

I also feel other then Shaw and potentially Bartel who is worth the money as a defender? I'd rather load up in the Mid's & Ruck.

Jabba07

Nice team, but you have 30k in the bank after loading up that team…. no way can you dump a defender for 300k – 360k.

Too light on D for mine.

The Beard

My comment was I could dump Pendles back to Wines and then upgrade a rookie defender to that 300k+ defender.

I agree it's light but no one seems to mention anyone other then Sheridan and Longeran or McKenzie and I'm not convinced on either and yet to hear anyone tell me why I should be…

Brad

Pretty locked with it and have been for about 2 weeks now, just waiting on team reveals

DEF: H.Shaw R.Laird T.Sheridan J.Weitering M.Dea M.Hartley (N.Broad, T.Ruggles)
MID: N.Fyfe P.Dangerfield M.Priddis T.Rockliff L.Parker T.Liberatore B.Crouch C.Mills (C.Menadue G.Hewett R.Davis)
RUC: T.Goldstein M.Gawn (M.Chol)
FWD: M.Barlow T.Greene A.Hall D.Wells B.Kennedy S.Kerridge (M.Adams, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti)

I fell like i'm doing something wrong not selecting M.Brown(Ess) and S.Grimley as everyone has them… your thoughts community

Southern S

Not everyone has Grimley. I won't touch him after NAB performance, didn't even do very well in the game they won against Carlton.

Plus I think Luen and McKernan will get the ruck and forward positions most weeks. If I thought he'd play every game I'd lock him in but I'm doubtful.

Southern S

Mitch brown will play a fair bit this season though, so I'd lock him in if Ruggles/Adams/Tippa isn't named. I'd assume at this point brown will be named round one.

Steele

Where's your point of difference? That's my only knock, as it's a great team albeit very generic.

ball swing

POD is the C choice. Always is… EVERY week!!!

Tim

No GAJ…

murray

Hi, this is just about my side to go into R1
your thoughts please

Shaw, Laird, McGovern, MBrown, Hartley, Broad, (Adams, Adamson)

Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, BCrouch, Mills ,(Petracca, Dunkley, Davis)

NicNat, Gawn (Loersch)

Barlow, SGray, AHall, DeGoey, Wells, Kerridge (Tipu, HGreenwood)

It is primarily a 13Guns/13Rookie line up with a sprinkling of 4 midpricers spread throughout. What do you think?

Dean

Where are your 13 Guns? I count 10 Gun's in your side – them being as follows:

Defence: Shaw, Laird
Mid: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rocky
Ruck: NicNat, Gawn
FWD: Barlow
That is who I would consider Guns. Its pointless choosing Gray, McGovern, Hall as Guns. Keep in mind defenders are extremely volatile, I have Laird however it wouldn't surprise me if he turns out to be ordinary. You are obviously counting S Gray, McGovern & Hall as Guns. You are not being realistic mate, McGovern & Hall are far from being "Guns" they need to prove themselves yet and the same applies with S Gray.

If I had to count my Guns as you have that would put me at 15 Guns but in a nutshell players under $500k don't equal "Gun" until proven.

Nice side though with a even spread. Good Luck mate.

Marc

some thoughts on my lineup community?

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Gibson, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Adams)
MID: Danger, Ablett, Rocky, Wines, Cripps, Libba, B Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Gore, Davis)
RUCKS: Nic Nat, Gawn (Cox)
FWD: Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (Grimley, AMT)

cheers

Southern S

Looks pretty safe with a good amount of possible profit.

Steele

Exactly(safe). Yet very same same as everyone else

Ricky

Shaw, Laird, lonergan, Weitering, Dea, Hartley –(Adams, tippa (ess.)

Ablett, Fyfe, Dangefield, Pendlebury , Parker, Libba, mills, Oliver –(Gresham , Keays, Davis )

Martin, Gawn –(cox)

Barlow, Robinson, hall, wells, Kerridge, Kennedy –(McCarthy, Grimley)

Rookies subject to round 1 selection.

If I go Pendles down to crouch that means I can go Adams upto Jason johanisen.

And also,
If I downgrade Pendles to rockclife I could then get dusty..
Or Pendles to crouch and upgrade either defence or foward,

Comment suggestions any advice is good advice thanks!

Matt

Pendles to Rockliff and Dusty in sounds pretty good to me. Feel like Pendles and Rocky should average pretty similar

Ricky

Pendlebury Oliver and Robinson out

And bought in Sidebottom menadue and Gray

Thoughts ?

@footy_bec

My thoughts are you should leave as is. Pendles was the highest SC scorer last year bar none. Oliver will make money and Robinson is a great POD.

Bells E Bubb

Spat out my coffee with Crouching’s first news report re Harley. Top stuff!

Nathan

Best start to the pod ever

@grayson_lowee

Hey guys, if i were to replace J.J (not saying i am) who would i go with? ive got about 40k in the bank.

Mike

I wonder if Hurn is worth a look.

CapTnKaOs

Maybe Rich? But honestly, I'd prefer to see you turn him into a gun or a rookie.
I think there is better value at this price point on the other lines.
Every year I pick a mid priced defender, 6 weeks into the season I regret it. But of course, I'll probably do it again.

BKW

Haha Yep, well said – Lumumba anyone?

Dean

Go Rich LOCK and throw away the key, he will generate you cash and I honestly have more faith in Rich in Defence then I do Laird even though I have both, but defence always screws us over big time when we pick the 500k Guns and without fail most of them hemorage cash and score average.

I'm sticking by going week in defence, it kills me every year when I go heavy in defence and I always go back and restructure my team last minute, not this year, I am biting the bullet and going weak in defence and sticking with my FAT gut for once.

DuckingTigers

Anyone without a stupid hair style.

@grayson_lowee

and also, who out of Hurn/McGovern/Yeo?

Gags

Gotta be Yeo mate, In for a huge season!
Only problem is, I don't have him.

@grayson_lowee

Ok, sorry if it looks like im spamming the comments section here, but im a part of a league thats been insanely competitive and fun in the past three years, however we have only filled up 15 spots this time around, so if any of you people are interested in joining a competitive and banter-filled league, by all means do it. (only 3 spots left so you better hurry if you want a place) Code: 711298

Big fact hunt

Thanks Grayson. Thought I would join in. Love the banter or hanging a bit of crap on each other. Long time reader but don't post much

@grayson_lowee

No worries mate, glad to have you on board

Jimma

Another Significant podcast fellas!

pretty much what im rocky to start the season, but would love ur thoughts and opinions

DEF: Shaw, KK, Rampe, JJoh, Weitering, Dea (Brown, Ruggles)

MID: Danger, Gazza, Mitchell, Shiel, Rockliff, Crouch, Mills, Menadue (Petracca, Phillips, Davis)

RUCK: NicNat, Gawn (Grimley)

FWD: Barlow, Gray, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (Mc-Tip, Papley)

$200 left

Rookies arent solidified. Have a choice of keeping Shiel and Rampe, or can go Cripps and Birchall and have more cash for better bench rookies, not sure which one to go there.

Cheers Community

Gags

Really like your PODs
Sam Gray is a great choice
All the best!

judd0

Good work lads.
Except for giving away my POD for the year. Sidebottom has been in my team from the start, he has been winning all the time trials down at Collingwood and as a predominately outside player will benefit from the Treloar injection.

Holty

Love the Sidey selection bud. Was always on my list but will just miss being selected in my side. I think he is underpriced but so are plenty other proven premo's this year.

Connor

Went with him last year – got burnt – why not go with him again! One of the most underrated players in the AFL by my reckoning and he is constantly overlooked every year. He's got one more year experience than last so he will only get better!

medadsson

G'day JuddO. Quality player and have considered him and Taylor Adams. Only thing that worries me about Pies (as far as Supercoach goes) is that they have so many accumulators in the team who may detract from one another (points wise). Good luck though as he has shown any number of times he can pump out the big scores with the best of them.

judd0

Hey mate. Yeah I agree with you they do have a lot of possession getters but I'm hoping Sidey can be a predominantly outside player with his exceptional fitness and benefit from the hard inside work done by adams, treloar etc. Whilst he missed about a third of the season last year he gathered at least 19 disposals in all his games and he also has a great kick to handball ratio with a minimum of 10 kicks in all his games. He only had 3 games where he had more handballs then kicks.

dean gardiner

Im stuck in a situation where i need to decide between pendles and sidebottom. and im not enjoying it….

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The_Black_Mamba

The intros keep on getting better and better 😉

sail in2 d black

Looking for a top league to join

Monkey_Magic

470587, filled with community members and top 1500 finishes, if this is you join in!
Only a few places left.

Phildev

Hey sail. Top 10 k players. 4 spots left. 273366. Love to have you

Marco_Polo94

PANIC!!!!! ahaha just kidding, brilliant podcast following on from a brilliant article by higgo. Love the wisdom of the community, many have been harping on about not falling for NAB guns and i think that is testament to the knowledge you've bestowed on us from the bungalow. Love ya work.

Dan My Man

Forward rookies under $140,000…

Southern S

Brown, McCarthy. Maybe Anthony Tippa.

Derek

Grimley & Kommer should probably both play

murray

thoughts on C Gault 215k as a D5

Southern S

Was in and out of my team. Could pay off….might make you 150-200k if he plays every week.

MaccasMarvels

Gault is a bit too 'key position' player for me, but as a pies supporter I can't wait to see him running around out there!

Leeds17

Go Peter Wright if you want KPP, cheaper and better job security, not going with either personally..

Steele

Gday ladies and gents!

With a ? over Dusty and how he will go with his personal situation atm. Who would everyone say is the next fwd priority.

Already have Barlow and Greene.

Cheers!

Avzmo

Dahlhaus and Zorko have low ownership % and I think are very solid forward options if you are looking for someone around that price.

Marcus

Zorko is out round 1

Luke

Jack R for the smokie

Jojo

Which option is better
Wietering Stefan Martin and Menzel
Or
Dea goldy and wells

NIcholas

Dea Goldy Wells

Jonathan Camac

I agree with Nicholas

Southern S

Dea, Martin, Wells

Big balls

Wheats , Martin & wells

Nicholas

All feedback appreciated:
Laird, KK, Bartel, Smith, Dea, Hartley (Ruggles, Adams)
Dangerfield, Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Shiel, Liberatore, B Crouch, Kennedy (Mathieson, Keays, Davis)
Goldstein, Naitanui (Chol)
Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca (M Brown, McDonald Tip)

kyle

tom sherriden D4? thoughts

SCaddict

Probably underpriced but just another popular midpriced defender that doesn't particularly float my boat.

I'll be going pure GnR in the backline this season assuming enough decent rookies get named on Thursday as I just feel there are too many midprice mirages in defence.

You might luck out and pick one of the few that soars but just as many, if not more, will merely tread water or crash and burn.

SCaddict

Anyone who is addicted to SC as I am is welcome to join this league 'Jock's Good Eggs' (code=513616)

About half a dozen spots left.

Liam

I'm in Addict

Liam

I'm obviously too late.

@wheels_1987

joined!

Youngy

Its Full. Damn.

The_Black_Mamba

Dangerfield and Rockliff OR Selwood and Hanneberyy/ Mundy/ Kennedy/Priddis….. Im torn.

Jack

Danger & Rocky if Rocky is named. Otherwise Selwood and Priddis.

The_Black_Mamba

Whats your reasoning? I see selwood scoring just as much as dangerfield and I feel priddis or hanneberry are much safer and more premium selections then rockliff. If it wasnt for selwood not having a full pre season I wouldve locked him in…

SCaddict

Rocky was the second best SC player in the comp in 2014 and now has the use of both lungs again.

Danger tore the NAB a new one and looks ready to explode for his new club. Jelwood can often get off to a slow start and his compromised preseason surely doesn't help there.

Benjamima Puddleduck

I have always heard of this 'Selwood's slow start' but went back and checked records and it doesnt seem to sit correctly.
There are a few scattered sub 100 games here and there. Last year being the worst of all (hence the cheaper price tag)

But the scores never suggest he starts slow, not by a long shot.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Selwood will outscore Danger this year, probably only marginally. Price check… you know the better option.
Next year, Danger will be the main man.

Noigerbour

Your dreaming !

SCaddict

I reckon you have to roll with option 1 even though I'm also huge on Hanners and have him in my side along with Danger and Rocky.

GoHawks

Who's up for the ultimate challenge in AFL fantasy football.

Think you know your stuff, then join this Supercoach Draft league – 702156

16 teams, 22 players per team, equals a deep-deep league where you will need to know not just the top 30-50 players, but 352 players.
Not playing through the bye rounds (hate the bye rounds), play each team once + finals.

No cost, just bring your A game. Drafts Wednesday 7pm

iH8

I reckon you'll do bloody well with a sheep team. But the only way to win is to go with a bunch of high risk high reward selections, have most come through with the goods, and trade your arse off to keep the points piling up. So I've gone with a high risk team and I'm actually bloody in love with it. Hurt my feelings if you can 🙂
BACK: K Kolo, Jimmy bartel, Yeo, Rich, Aish, Weitering (Brown, Hartley)
MIDS: Fyfe, God, Robbie Gray, Rockliff, Olly Wines, Libba, Mills, Viojo-Rainbow (Beays, Davis, McPherson)
RUCK: Gawn, NickNat
FORWARD: Dusty, Wingard, DeGoey, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Petracca, McD-T)

Got a decent warchest left over too

Southern S

I wouldn't touch rich and aish personally but hey if you feel they are value then go for it.

Viojo didn't play NAB so doesn't seem a chance in my mind.

REN

If named, is Parish a good pick?

Southern S

Could play more than Oliver I think.

Avzmo

I just think scoring potential at Essendon is down across the board, there will be games where you struggle to get 5 players scoring over 80 in a game. and to say Parrish will be in those 5 is probably a bit ahead of ourselves. I feel like there are better options out there.

Canny the Manny

With the absence of midfield rookies this year, I think he's a good pick. Just don't expect too much from the kid.

james

hey community would like to get some thoughts on who i should select
enright or simmo

Southern S

Had enright in 2014 and was solid, then was too soft to pick him last year cos of his age and took harry taylor instead. It backfired.

Both guys have played incredibly consistent careers. Maybe take simpson as carlton will be guaranteed to see a lot of ball down back this year.

TJM

SC Scoring

Goal: 8 points
Behind: 1 point
Score Assist: 3.5 points
Intercept contested mark: 8 points
Contested mark: 6 points
Contested possession at ground level: 4.5 points
Intercept possession: 4.5 points
Mark on a lead: 5 points
Uncontested mark: 2 points
Handball received: 1.5 points
Gather: 1.5 points
Hitout to advantage: 5 points
Hitout: 0 points
Hitout sharked: -1 point
Free kick: 4 points
Free against: -4 points
50m penalty against: -8.5 points
Effective kick: 4 points
Effective handball: 1.5 points
Ineffective disposal: 0 points
Clanger disposal: -4 points
Tackle: 4 points
Spoil: 2 points
Shepherd: 1.5 points

Russ

I like the 5 points for 'hitout to advantage', Nicnat should clean up!, I wonder if that means when he takes it out of the centre himself too?

DadSmasher

Where'd you get that info TJM?
The SC website table on points scoring is below. Not included at SC site is, 50m penalty, Mark on lead, sharked hitout, and a few of the point amounts are also different to what you posted.
Effective kick – 4 Points
Ineffective kick – 0 Points
Clanger kick -4 Points
Effective Handball -1.5 Points
Ineffective handball -0 Points
Handball clanger -4 Points
Handball receive 1.5 Point
Hardball get 4.5 Points
Loose-ball get 4.5 Points
Goal 8 Points
Behind 1 Point
Mark uncontested (maintaining possession) 2 Points
Mark contested (maintaining possession) 6 Points
Mark uncontested (from opposition) 4 Points
Mark contested (from opposition) 8 Points
Tackles 4 Points
Free kick for 4 Points
Free kick against -4 Points
Hitout to Advantage 5 Points
Gather from Hitout 2 Points

Russ

SuperCoach 2016: Champion Data explains key stats in scoring formula
March 22, 2016 8:32am
Herald Sun

Article in today's digital Herald Sun

DadSmasher

So those dodgyfux at Heraldsun don't give the full breakdown of points scoring on the website, probably some sort of raffles and bingo permit violation there. It doesn't suprise me though, I bought their trash paper due to a backpage headline only to find out that if I want to read the story I have to buy a digital subscription.

Russ

PUTTING together a big score in SuperCoach is about a lot more than just kicks and handballs.

The SuperCoach scoring system is a complicated one, with more than 100 different areas of the game involved in the overall final score.

Unlike some fantasy games that award points for a kick no matter where it goes or consider a mark in front of goal when scores are level in the final quarter the same as accepting a backwards pass in defence, SuperCoach rewards a player’s real impact in a match.

100 different factors make up the score? sheesh.
Yeh don't know why Dadsmasher, I guess they wanted to keep an element of mystery about it? lol
I do enjoy when a bloke scores 40 points for kicking the winning goal though, god knows what their formula is for that!?

Avzmo

Thoughts on Lonergan in defence? Worth the pick?

Southern S

Worth a chance, there's other options like Sheridan, Seedsman, McKenzie, Harwood and Cutler being thrown around too.

Benjamima Puddleduck

MMM Cutler =D

Southern S

Also saw nathan wilson mentioned, did ok in the NAB.

Mac

De Goey or Greene at F3?

@grayson_lowee

If you have the money, Greene all the way mate, degoey is a good little stepping stone but imo Greene will be a keeper this year, from what ive seen and with treloars departure, hes set to breakout.

SCaddict

I have De Goey at F3 but if I had the spare cash I probably would've gone with Greene.

But Greene has just missed the cut in Addicts although I have him in my RDT side.

hawkeye

personally not going with green heard his looking at rotating on wing and half fwd.. hasn't locked down his skinfolds and work ethic..so will be picking jack steele to get more midfield time

DadSmasher

I had the same dilemma for F4 and used this reasoning. If greene stinks and gooey stars it's an easy correction before the price change BUT if gooey stinks and greene stars you'll need 2 trades unless you kept 100kplus spare cash

POM

Sheridan and Wines
OR
Weitering and Priddis

Steeeve

Weitering and Wines, pocket the cash in case one of the higher priced rookies goes berzerk in the first couple of weeks so you can afford to trade up to them.

BKW

Option two

Shaq

Bucks coming out and saying pendles almost certain to spend majority of game time in the backline. Will this effect his scoring output?
And Thoughts on chopsticks? will he be good to go or a liability with these off field issues? TIA

Southern S

Pendles got 32 touches and a season high 11 marks when playing on the half back flank vs geelong in round 22 last year.

His possible moving into the backline and losing scoring potential, is getting blown out of proportion.

As is the impact of off field issues for Martin.

Itchy balls

Where did you read that?

Shaq

Herald Sun article

Southern S

Bucks isn't going to put pendles somewhere to be quiet, he'll put him where he needs pendles to have an impact.

Will finish the season between 600-700k imo.

Holty

im assuming Bucks doesnt want to play finals this year.

Steeeve

Pendles will still score well, will still attend a shit load of centre bounces and will still be looked for every time his teammates have the pill.
But if this is true it could be good news for those rolling the dice with DeGoey.

Southern S

Also good for those who want Pendles, but don't want every other team having him.

Jonathan Camac

Got ten in our league called the Brotherhood. Looking for decent coaches who will give and take some solid banter. League code: 613122

HOLLA

Yeah ill join ya shit heap league haha

goran

Haven't heard much talk about Matt Priddis… Is there any reason not to pick him?
ATM he is locked into my team.. should be a top 5 mid this year if he can stay fit IMO

Mr Question Face

GUN

Holty

He will be in most sides come seasons end. his problem is that he is maxed out price wise. Most people are looking for value early on or grabbing the very best they can afford. If you do pick him though, he will be a great selection.

bUCKET__

Also getting a bit older and has spoken a bit lately about an ongoing knee issue, some risk in that he might lose a bit of pace in his old age.

Lazy_Simmo

I 've started him last couple years and I think both times he's finished 5th for overall points. Won't be a capt choice often but will accumulate you a lot of points over the season. As Holty says buying him at max price but has a very low point deviation and will crack you out 110 most weeks.

Mr Question Face

Anyone rolling with Harwood? 83 avg in 2014, injury ravaged 2015, played NAB unscathed, at 283k he could be a nice D6 by the end of the year? If not, anyone else around that price people prefer? Lonergan, McKenzie? Reasons to take them over Harwood?

Southern S

He was in, then out, then in, then out again. He's giving me a headache honestly.

I reckon he could average 80 in that backline that will see a lot of action. What about cutler too? had a good NAB.

There's a fair few viable mid price defenders but a few of them will flop I reckon.

Holty

never played more then 16 games in a season. At that price, way too risky.

SCaddict

The Phantom has selected him and he knows his stuff.

I myself have too many players coming back from injury as it is and Harwood's durability is pretty horrendous when you look at it so I have to skip on him.

But if he can stay on the park early he should make $100-150K or thereabouts I'm guessing.

One Touch Wonder

Guns N Rookies

Shaw. Laird. Bartel. Dea. Brown. Hartley (Collins. Ruggles)
Ablett. Gray. Selwood. Sidebottom. Rocky. Parker. Mills. Gresham (Petracca. Keays. Davis)
Goldy. Gawn. (Chol)
Dusty. Wingard. Bartel. Kennedy. Menadue. Kerridge. (Adams. McD-T)

Southern S

Two Bartels?

Mr Question Face

I was thinking about two Bartels, its ricky, but I think he can handle it

FootyFanatic

I personally have 3 Bartels in my team

Ethan017

Look it's one of the burning questions of 2016, how many Bartel's is too many?
I've seen a variation in all teams some going with 2,3, 6 or even some taking it to the extreme with 13 Bartels!!

SCaddict

Nice looking GnR side mate although I'd still try and squeeze in Wells if you can who technically I would class as an expensive rookie rather than a cheap ass midpricer.

goran

Is Patrick Cripps a viable selection? Kid's a stud

Southern S

Absolutely.

@grayson_lowee

i think he's fantastic and a little bit of a POD, i'd go for him if you can.

SCaddict

I'd only pick him if you think he can have a chance at being a top 12 mid otherwise I reckon you'd be wasting your time and may as well find an extra $100K and go with a proven elite.

Or alternatively you could save $200K like I'm doing and run with B.Crouch who it wouldn't surprise me if he scored similar to Cripps although you would be taking the risk that his body holds together, at least early in the season, until you can upgrade him to an elite.

Cam

Kick to handball ratio hurts his scores

Superbj

Hey guys does anyone have a strongl league I can join? Want to test myself against the best

Phildev

273366. Always a top league. AGRADE. 3 spots left

REN

Where do most people have Dea? Is d4 too light?

Thinking it might be too risky going in with 2 of brown, hartley, adams etc on field

SCaddict

Dea if named will be D4 for me although I'm running with a GnR backline which many in the community don't favour.

But I just don't have much faith in most of the popular midpriced defenders many coaches are running with. So I'd rather generate maximum cash in the backline and use the savings to bolster my own side with elite mids and rucks who I can actually trust a hell of a lot more than these midpriced defender luck dips.

CapTnKaOs

Agree 100% with GnR backline strategy. SC history is littered with midpriced defenders who start out as a means of "balancing" the team, but then cause nothing but pain and take forever to get rid of. Like a SC kidney stone.

vex

Shannon Hurn or Brodie Smith?

Southern S

Can you afford McGovern?

Phil

Both have hard early draws so I'd rather see them as potential upgrades than starters but I prefer Smith

Sarah

Love the podcast, but your thoughts on Brad Crouch is beyond a joke! 300k for a player who has a very strong chance of averaging 100+ and is the 2nd best midfielder at the club. No job security concerns, much better player than his brother. Health is the only thing holding him back. If he's fit, he's as big a lock as Wells. Both criminally underpriced with huge potential, but both are injury prone.

Mr Question Face

But Jock held a mirror?

SCaddict

I have him my team but I agree with Jock that there are some doubts there most significantly surrounding his durability.

I'm prepared to roll the dice as we know his quality and Supercoach potential but I think we'd only be kidding ourselves if we didn't acknowledge there was some downside or significant risk with this selection.

At least we've seen Wells light it up in the NAB so there's a distinction there for me, plus he's cheaper so consider him a lock that all coaches should have but I'm afraid I just can't put B.Crouch in that category Sarah.

Sarah

Huge durability concerns for both players, everyone knows that, but i feel that both are cheap enough to almost be locks.
Crouch averaged 94 2 seasons ago, very likely to improve to a low 100 average, has been lighting it up in practice games and the sanfl, obviously not afl caliber competition but you'll expect him to dominate in those games and he's done that. It would be nice to have seen him play nab challenge games but when he has played, he hasn't disappointed. Only if he plays half a season, he would appreciate to a decent price where it would be an easy sideways trade to a top 8 mid.
Ablett has similar durability concerns and obviously on a different level to crouch but that doesn't defer people from picking him.

@BarronVonCrow

My plan for Crouch includes many "out" plans at the moment. If he gets injured within the first month, he's down to Mills. If he gets injured after 9-10 games, then he moves up to a Fallen Premium. Best case scenario he stays healthy and averages 105+ for most of the year.

Also to consider that his 40 touches were with the Crows limiting themselves to 50 rotations as per the new SANFL rules (though they just upped it to 60 yesterday), but South Adelaide, were not following the interchange cap and were rotating like crazy, so he's been beating fresher guys while being slightly underdone himself.

I'm not worried about the Matt taking his role thing just because it isn't going to happen. They play completely separate roles, Matty is pure inside, he's as fast as a fat man on a treadmill, so he can't play outside at all, but he will find the ball on the inside and he will extract it. He will be competing with Scott Thompson and CEY for his spot. Brad can do the inside stuff, but he can also play more outside too, with the Crows focusing on a more uncontested style of ball movement this year, both will have separate roles, and both will need to play them well for the Crows to have a good year.

Wayno – If you're taking a flier on ANY Crow forward, make it Tom Lynch. The guy has killed it during the NAB Challenge, he is going to have a big year, could average 95+ for the year. Betts is going to be inconsistent, Lynch isn't likely to be.

Southern S

Hilarious podcast, Crouch's 40 touches in the SANFL must've been against 'A bunch of dickheads'

Yet Selwood's 34 in the VFL was basically divine (can't remember the word he used)

Unproven at AFL level because of injuries, but these are the risks you have to take I feel.

Chill

Sarah you are too passionate about the crows.. !! Second best midfielder? What about sloand and Thompson?? I think the Crouch boys are ready to be burn men. Avoiding.

Sarah

haha, love the Crows! Sloane is clearly there number 1 mid, but Crouch will be a star.

Sarah

Hi Sarah,

You're getting people confused with me!!! Are you a mad crow too? If so then that is really spooky!! You might need to change your login name so people can tell us apart.

Cheers,
Sarah

Chill

I thought the above messages sounded different from usual Sarah. This is creepy.

CapTnKaOs

As mentioned in the podcast, there is a lot of injury risk at the start of this year. But I think its also thrown up some value. I've got B Crouch and Wells as well. But I also have D Menzel, and McCarthy. I reckon at least a couple of them will stand up long enough to produce serious cash.

Holty

My concern with Crouch isnt just being a injury risk, but also a risk to himself. He has had a entire year off due to injury and when he is finally given the chance to play, he goes against team rules and has a few drinks. How serious is this guy about his football is probably the question we should be asking? Has all the ability in the world and will be a great player no doubt but will Adelaide forgive him and allow him to play this week? If they do, it opens up the door for all the other youngsters in the team to think this behavior is acceptable.
But after all this doubt and criticism of Crouch, at his price its hard not to select him.

@footy_bec

He will play. I will not be selecting him.

JAYZ

The question is having Wells and Ablett already vulnerable, and crouch who hasn't played in a year or during preseason and his other two seasons took under 3 games to fall… Don't think his a lock MASSIVE risk for reward

Southern S

Ablett is probably more likely to get sore or injured again, considering he's full priced it's probably an even bigger risk.

Guess that's why jock and others aren't locking in Ablett or Crouch.

The day I don't take risks is the day supercoach is boring for me though.

I'll be locking in Ablett, Libbe, Wells and crouch!

First one I drop would be Ablett though honestly, strange as that may sound to some.

JAYZ

Plus Libba back from a knee if one of them gets injured not much options to trade down too.. Mmm decisions

Phil

Couldn't agree more with this comment. I've picked him at M8 over Mills as I think he'll generate as much cash. If I believe a injury risk player is 200k+ underpriced they're a lock in my team, as I believe the reward outweighs the risk. Welcome to The Walking Wounded young Brad

One Touch Wonder

Great podcast. I can't wait for the youtube stuff to come

SJK

With the news Dom Sheed is out for 10 weeks, does this make Duggan a genuine selection?

Mac

Wines or Gray?

@BarronVonCrow

Gray is the sure thing, Wines will have the potential to average near the same, but also has the potential to finish 5-10 points lower than Gray. Will depend on if you can spare the cash I imagine.

@footy_bec

Both 🙂
I'm going Gray x 2

KDot

Jesse Lonergan? Thoughts?

Gord29

i currently have him but there is a few around that price that could come in all have risk in there selections

Clint in Scotland

My team structure doesn't work without him. Locked in all preseason.

steve

Robbie Gray, JPK or Ward?

@grayson_lowee

Honestly, id go ward here, love him as a player and could be a small POD.

Phil

All of these guys should be good for a 110 average so all good picks. I have Gray as I think he has the most chance of pushing to a 115-120 average.

BKW

Gray for mine

Itchy balls

How people feeling about Rich? Is a good consideration?

Southern S

Many seem to be picking him due to him apparently getting midfield time.

I wouldn't touch him, never been supercoach relevant and the kids these days run rings around him.

Noigerbour

No

Clint in Scotland

For the purpose of balance, I'm gonna say yes. I have him at D2. No doubt he's a risk, but he's a defender with a midfield role, and I'll be happy if he gives me a low 90s average to finish the season in my D4 or D5 position.

james

643k for a mid who do i get pendles hanners Gaz gray

SCaddict

Probably Gaz if he's named.

There's just as much risk in NOT picking Gaz, if not more, than picking him in my view.

The other 3 guys are great selections too so if you really believe Gaz will snap up his sh!t again like Jock does then either of those guys would be a fine alternative.