SuperCoach Psychology 101 – Emotional v Logical Reasoning

469 Comments

MaccasMarvels · 21/03/2016 at 11:37
I have Hannebery at m4 too. He finished top 10 midfielders last year from memory. Was very strong. High price, yep. It's a bit of a roller coaster….. he went sub-100 7 times, and went +130 8 times!

I N Pieman · 21/03/2016 at 13:26
Hes a Jet pick him with confidence

Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/03/2016 at 20:46
Duncan had been on the cusp of my team for a while, for a similar price and same team i think Cam Gutherie is going to be the next Jimmy Bartel, may push for a Brownlow this year..?no? Next year.
Another name in the mix
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SCaddict · 22/03/2016 at 00:18
Don't let Higgo get in your head.
Hanners looooves the SCG averaging nearly 130 there last season and the Swans now play every single home game there in the regular season. Confident he will again finish a top 10 mid this season.

REN · 21/03/2016 at 09:48
For me:
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
No

Jake · 22/03/2016 at 11:00
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
Yes

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 09:52
Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no, yes

Sean · 21/03/2016 at 10:00
Yes, no, yes, yes, no, no, yes

bAps · 21/03/2016 at 10:01
Yes
No
Yes, but starting to rethink it
Yes
No
Initially yes, but of late No
Yes

Ratitat · 21/03/2016 at 10:01
yes, no, yes, yes, no, no, yes

Scotty · 21/03/2016 at 10:05
Goldy and Shaw can be justified selections as both are almost guaranteed to be the highest scoring in their position. The rest are definitely up for debate though

@chevychase84 · 21/03/2016 at 10:18
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
Yes

magpie4ver · 21/03/2016 at 10:19
yes-no-no-yes-yes-no-yes

Dyno Mite · 21/03/2016 at 10:25
no, no, yes, yes, yes, no, yes

Shake n bake · 21/03/2016 at 10:41
yes no yes yes yes no yes

sharmanism · 21/03/2016 at 10:54
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes

Steeeve · 21/03/2016 at 11:05
Yes to all except Crouch and Dusty

GARONSTAR · 21/03/2016 at 11:12
Yes

hedski · 21/03/2016 at 12:05
Yes yes yes yes no no yes

TRIGGER HAPPY · 21/03/2016 at 13:04
No no yes no yes no yes. Must admit that hall was never in my team but form hard to ignore. Following the crowd I guess but jumped off libba which counter balances this.

@rileyflanigan24 · 21/03/2016 at 14:02
No
No
No
Yes
No
No
Yes

Cozza · 21/03/2016 at 14:29
Lol – you;ve just named my team – yes to all – Goldy coming in and out though

Gold Rush · 21/03/2016 at 14:35
ATM, YYNNNNY

hawkboy80 · 21/03/2016 at 16:51
yes to shaw gaz & crouch

rosco72 · 21/03/2016 at 17:01
No
No
No
No
Yes x2 M and B
No
Yes

Bobby Singh · 21/03/2016 at 18:42
YES
YES
YES
YES
NO
YES
NO

DuckingTigers · 21/03/2016 at 18:46
No No Yes (at this stage) Yes No No No

Sarah · 21/03/2016 at 19:34
Shaw = Yes
Goldy = Yes
Ablett = Yes
Libba = Yes
M Crouch = No
B Crouch = Yes
Dusty = No
Hall = Yes

Iamme · 21/03/2016 at 20:41
Yes to all except Dusty or Hall at this stage .

Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/03/2016 at 20:54
No
No
No
No
Yes
No
Yes
If your starting with Gaz, you have to expect Hall to average a whole lot less than his NAB form, previous games together show this all to well. So having Gaz and Hall is a bad idea based on your thoughts that both will score big.
Im not sure how people justify having both in there teams, it doesn't seem clearly thought through with a strategy.
It will be either Gaz has a blinder of a year and Hall picks up his crumbs or Gaz is restricted and Hall takes over as GC's main man for a while at least.
OR
Im completely wrong and have no idea.

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:11
Hall set to play in the midfield this year regardless of Gaz being absent or otherwise and with their other injury problems, I see no reason why both can't go big. Using stats based on last years approach is taking a too simplistic view, the world (at least on the Gold Coast) has changed and we need to change with it. Both in my team BP, reward far outweighs the risk on this one IMHO.
As for the list I have them all except Dusty and he was in till his old fellas issues and he spudded it up, fragile psyche with him rearing its head again so issues in his personal life not what you want especially when paying top dollar, replaced ironically for this thread, with Hall and cash used to get Gaz back in after he turned up for the launch in Melbourne, something people seem to forget he didn't do last year as he was concerned about his body and if the great man feels comfortable in his skin then that's good enough for me.

Blues_16 · 21/03/2016 at 21:18
y, y, n n n n n

Dan · 21/03/2016 at 22:41
No to Dusty and Crouch (if not named round 1) the rest yes.

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 10:41
He is in my team Tret. People are scared he will be rested or get injured. Not sure why as last year was his only year he had been injured. As for resting, there has been no real indication it will happen.

Grahame Lebroy · 21/03/2016 at 11:11
don't like the bartel pick this year. People would be selecting him as a keeper, which he isn't

Chill · 21/03/2016 at 12:02
I don't like the Bartel pick either. Long in the tooth. Will get rested. I think there are some other contenders around that price range who could be real options as keepers – Simpson, KK, Docherty (maybe?), Laird is only a little bit more expensive and a definite keeper. Brodie Smith even… although there is risk.

FootyFanatic · 21/03/2016 at 18:12
You say Bartel is too "long in the tooth" but then suggest to pick Simpson…

Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/03/2016 at 20:58
Long in the tooth is such a cop out!
They are playing on the book ends not pushing themselves through the middle, though i expect we will see Bartel playing all over the pitch like a majestic beast he is.
Not in my starting team (probably should be), but i expect he will make it in at some point.

Redgumwon · 21/03/2016 at 14:51
No I've still got Jimmy B in the backline. I've gone cold on Dusty even with Lids out. I'm thinking maybe Robinson now

Mr Question Face · 21/03/2016 at 15:07
Why would Bartel be rested? Considering the longer-toothed Corey Enright played 21 games last year, I'd be thinking old mate Bartel will play every game he's good to go for.

Tret · 21/03/2016 at 15:20
Chris Scott has said he'd be suprised if Bartel played all 22 games so will obviously be rested.

Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/03/2016 at 20:59
He might miss say 1 game
How many is it till he reaches 300 games this year?

DuckingTigers · 21/03/2016 at 18:50
The concussion will knock him back a bit. It usually takes four or five weeks for players scores to recover after a bout and they're more susceptible to injury in the aftermath.

@randomcliche · 21/03/2016 at 10:28
I think there are improvements on Big Carl's team at the margin; remember the beautiful quote "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." (I Newton) It might only be one or two you need…and that trading is where the season is won or lost. Stay strong.

Boris Baconbeer · 21/03/2016 at 10:32
Nice

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:16
Great advice there RC!

Jambo · 21/03/2016 at 10:36
How about Birchall and Mitch Robinson?

Redgumwon · 21/03/2016 at 13:30
I'm going with Bartel & Robinson now. I've just dropped Dusty out of the side. I'm still thinking about Wingard though. Bennell has done the calf again and there not sure yet how much damage has been done

Bramigan · 21/03/2016 at 17:56
Going Houli and Robinson. Robo will be a good POD

DadSmasher · 22/03/2016 at 16:57
not anymore.

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:17
Houli and Robbo for mine

@randomcliche · 21/03/2016 at 10:29
Jock gave one of them the green light…I tend to think the same…

Noah · 21/03/2016 at 10:33
Very good point, thanks.

I N Pieman · 21/03/2016 at 13:27
McGovern

medadsson · 21/03/2016 at 14:55
McGovern

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:18
JJ worth the punt I reckon

magpie4ver · 21/03/2016 at 10:49
Shaw Hurn Weitering
I have Shaw Laird Hurn and Weitering

Randomclcihe · 21/03/2016 at 11:06
Fanfooty has each player's break even avg bud.

magpie4ver · 21/03/2016 at 11:34
Rand where are they i cant find them?

Randomclcihe · 21/03/2016 at 11:47
Implied breakeven on each player profile page. Eg danger 119.4

Randomclcihe · 21/03/2016 at 11:56
Other way is to calculate a constant based on non injured players. From memory it's bout 18.5 points per 100k spent on a player

Randomclcihe · 21/03/2016 at 11:57
There is some detailed stuff last year on this site bout pricing and magic number etc.

@randomcliche · 21/03/2016 at 12:52
Here is what I was talking about… how to calculate price change each week. http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2013/04/10/trading…

Steeeve · 21/03/2016 at 11:06
Lots. But if you never have to trade him his price fluctuations won't matter one bit.

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 11:44
Whatever his average was last year.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 21/03/2016 at 13:06
About 110

Shake n bake · 21/03/2016 at 10:53
Sorry & Shaw!

sharmanism · 21/03/2016 at 11:01
Thank God I haven't got Chopsticks (but I have the rest)

magpie4ver · 21/03/2016 at 11:01
No-Yes-Yes-Maybe-No-No-Yes-No-Yes

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 11:47
This is why I'm not starting Danger and Fyfe. It may bite me in the butt though.

Redgumwon · 21/03/2016 at 12:46
You can't win all the bye rounds.Therefore 2 out 3 ain't bad to quote a Meat Loaf song.. Seems this bye round will be a doughnut for me

@chevychase84 · 21/03/2016 at 11:35
Ooooo that would be an interesting side….

SCaddict · 21/03/2016 at 11:42
I think you mean a Herald Sun digital subscriber pass …. and yes I happen to have one of those so you're in luck!
THE PHANTOM
Shaw, KK, Smith, Harwood, Weitering, Brown (Hartley, Broad)
Danger, Gaz, Gray, Rocky, Cripps, Libba, B.Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Hewett, Davis)
Goldy, Gawn (Chol)
Barlow, Greene, De Goey, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (Petracca, Grimley)
I could post the entire article but a) that wouldn't be right and b) I really don't want to get sued! 🙂

Chill · 21/03/2016 at 12:04
Geez cripps is tempting.

mick · 21/03/2016 at 14:57
great side by the phantom but still a few maybes kk harwood b smith b crouch injury greene de goey petracca not playing grimley no money whats ur thoughts addict

SCaddict · 21/03/2016 at 17:40
Premo differences aside I give the thumbs up to his overall structure although his defence is perhaps a little more midprice mayhem for my own taste as I prefer a pure GnR flavour on that particular line myself this season.
However we have the identical philosophy in seeking value in the forward line and we both have De Goey at F3 and Wells at F4. Although interestingly he's not buying into the hype surrounding Hall and rolling with the Greene Machine instead at F2.
He'll make the same tweaks to rookies that we'll all make Thursday night so wouldn't read too much into those picks there.
But in a nutshell I like his squad a lot and think he'll have another tremendous season.

Connor · 21/03/2016 at 22:42
I'm sorry but I have to ask who is The Phantom, and where does he generally finish?

SCaddict · 21/03/2016 at 23:29
The Adelaide Advertiser's resident fantasy guru.
Finished 30th overall in the nation last year and knows a thing or two about how to approach this Supercoach caper.
Has a lot of interesting fantasy titbits on his twitter feed so you should check it out Connor:
https://twitter.com/thephantomsc

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:34
He's a SuperCoach writer for the Adelaide Advertiser (and associated papers) Connor. Finished 30th overall last year and has very reasoned views. As an aside on his team choice of Greene v Hall he's said it's a personal choice due to him having Greene in from the beginning, (was in his initial team reveal back in Jan), and he's said he just can't fit Hall in but there's no doubting him anymore so not sure SCAs view is entirely accurate. I share his faith in Cripps also and he's got my VC loophole going into the opening game, can't wait for that first bounce of the year!

Cozza · 21/03/2016 at 14:32
It is available with a gold subscription to supercoach

@randomcliche · 21/03/2016 at 15:25
Have a look above re: comments on Shaw. Implied breakeven for season on fanfooty under player profile. Or you can calc it yourself. 🙂 Cheers

Kevin Skywalker · 21/03/2016 at 13:21
1

Gold Rush · 21/03/2016 at 14:38
2

@footy_bec · 21/03/2016 at 16:05
2

Steeeve · 21/03/2016 at 11:50
Please do it just so the rest of us can see what happens haha

Derek · 21/03/2016 at 12:28
there is a saying "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".
the sound of the Bell-chambers is still ringing in my ears from last year!

@randomcliche · 21/03/2016 at 15:32
Libba definitely over Brouch. 50/50's the rest for mine. I think need to downgrade to Dea in the backline. Then libba in. Cheers

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:41
Jelwood had a good game on the weekend didn't he? I'd take him over Duncan any day.
Crouch and Libba.
I'm not going to make a choice here because it's just a guess / biased opinion, anything can happen with these guys and both potentially can score huge.
JJ v Bartel v Birchall.
Tough one. Maybe Birchall. Has been pretty consistent for several years. Bartel won't be getting much mid time. JJ has unpredictable scoring imo.
Seeds v Sheridan v Lonergan.
Another tough one. My guess is 1. Lonergan, 2. Seeds, 3. Sheridan.

Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/03/2016 at 21:10
Let me throw Cam Guthrie into your Geelong Mix.
You should be looking at Libba vs Hunter
Id look at Lonergan out of those.

Woody · 21/03/2016 at 21:32
Thanks Ben, but dont confuse me anymore with more cat players 🙂 I definitely have considered hunter, but just cant afford/fit him in ahead of any of my other preferred selections.

Woody · 21/03/2016 at 21:27
Thanks mate. I think Duncan is in for a big year though wont get tagged, but love jelwood how he goes about it. Plays through injuries & i think with danger on board can only help him get back to that 115+ avg, especially with the cats draw. Yep thats why i like birchall consistent & at that perfect age with thinking he will be the #1 rebounding defender again with gibbo going back to a more kpp role. I know you cant take 2 much out of nab, but just like how the crows used seeds in that attacking role.

Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/03/2016 at 21:34
I have Selwood in my team, i definitely think with Danger around will only help Selwoods scoring too.
I have gibbo in my team, been trying to find where it was stated that he was going to play a KPP role this year.
after reading some interestig stats from him last year, i have no idea why on earth they would play him as a KPP.

Derek · 21/03/2016 at 12:30
Crows do have a tough start, they will be made to earn their points.

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:44
Yes it's bad, it means you enjoy other people's suffering 🙂

I N Pieman · 21/03/2016 at 13:26
2

Wattsieesq · 21/03/2016 at 15:46
2

@randomcliche · 21/03/2016 at 15:38
30*$150k=$4.5m
Total team value over $14m…which is what you should be aiming for. There is a bit of an allowance for injury trades and the players you bring in making some ca$hola. No science though…you take what you can get 🙂
Not sure if anyone has done something more scientific than that…

Mark · 21/03/2016 at 16:04
Thanks mate – that makes sense

kevwal · 21/03/2016 at 14:12
Feeling the same about Gaz and Hall.

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 14:27
Barlow and Fyfe will both be fine. Just look back 2 seasons ago when they played in the mids together.

Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/03/2016 at 21:17
There is alot more than just Barlow and Fyfe…
Im taking Barlow to start, i think Bennel will be better later in the year.
So much guess work going into SC teams this year, and real teams will evolve as well in turn will change our SC teams.
We rely on previous years experience and what we read and hear in the footy media, but still so much quess work with a big interchange difference.

Average Joe · 21/03/2016 at 17:18
Where have you been all preseason? Haven't seen any of your comments in ages

@t_woof · 21/03/2016 at 19:15
G'day Joe!
Posted a few comments early in the pre season, but not much recently. Super Coach doing my head in. Haven't once been happy with my team when i've clicked the log out button.
How is you team coming along mate? Hope you've settled on a team better than i have!

Average Joe · 22/03/2016 at 19:49
Yeh pretty much locked all non-rookies except for 1 player. Big POD, just not sure if he's worth the risk or not. Good luck for the season mate!

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:42
Tough one that Jimmy, but I reckon Birchalls shown enough in nab to prove to us his knees alright. I've been trying to fit him in but just can't do it, defence sucks this year but when doesn't it!

Cliffy · 21/03/2016 at 13:55
To clarify, the 2 SC Original leagues, and I'm making a debut in SC Draft this season (never played the format before).

medadsson · 21/03/2016 at 15:09
229043, about to throw it open. Just me and couple of mates there at moment. Anyone welcome provided seeing season out. Cheers.

Cliffy · 21/03/2016 at 15:53
Cheers mate 🙂

Hounddog · 21/03/2016 at 18:10
571790 and 991457

Marc · 21/03/2016 at 18:35
736716 is a league with a few guys from this community would be happy if you could join cliffy 🙂

Russ · 21/03/2016 at 18:46
Giday Cliffy, I have some leagues you're very welcome to become a part of, feel free to join up and invite your mates too if they wanna have a fun season
923515
487007
716047
598192
887856
821086
You should join ten leagues mate, that's the max this year, more chances to be the king of the league 🙂

Cliffy · 21/03/2016 at 19:31
Thanks so much Russ, Marc, Hounddog, legends 🙂

Big G · 21/03/2016 at 15:48
Good question. I am considering Joey to keep to my team structure, but am worried about his injury-toll at his age.

Big balls · 21/03/2016 at 22:07
Love Joey , risk = reward

@randomcliche · 21/03/2016 at 15:56
Oh, favourite line of the injury update "Sharron Wellingham will have a delayed start to the season due to a knee injury." Who is typing this stuff? http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-injury-wrap-b…

Sarah · 21/03/2016 at 19:39
Unless you trade out Lids for Martin, doesn't make a difference.

Shake n bake · 21/03/2016 at 19:42
No

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:47
No mate, reason I flicked Dusty, (and it shits me to do it), is his balsa wood psyche, everything needs to be going right for him and it's clearly not at the moment. Potentially worth the risk to me if he had some upside value as well but think he's fully priced.

marcus · 21/03/2016 at 17:35
shhhhh ward is my POD
duncans a gun not sure how danger will affect his score though

BKW · 21/03/2016 at 20:28
Ward is solid but there are higher upside selections at a similar price IMO – pick him if you like him though

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:49
Pretty good choice I reckon Gibbs, I've gone Cripps myself but I'd be happy with Ward also just a preference really so back your gut mate.

Liam · 21/03/2016 at 15:09
Like it. Brad crouch would be my only concern

Ethan017 · 21/03/2016 at 16:13
Cheers buddy
I'd prefer to have Crouch instead of an onfield rookie and I hope that if he doesn't perform my premos can cover him

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:53
Looking good Ethan, prefer Hanners to JPK personally but don't have either. Nothing to fault it really although Petracca unlikely to play first few rounds at least and I'd take Adams over Brown if named.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 21/03/2016 at 16:55
Neither will dils

Jobesbrownlow · 21/03/2016 at 15:44
Hanners.

Ethan017 · 21/03/2016 at 16:13
Priddis for me

The Mountain · 21/03/2016 at 17:06
Pridda

Bramigan · 21/03/2016 at 18:00
Priddis. Reliable and no chance of a role change

Danners · 21/03/2016 at 20:47
Pendlebury, won't be affected by tag and doesn't have a slow start to the season

Scouser · 21/03/2016 at 23:54
Priddis

'Don't Blush Babbie' · 21/03/2016 at 15:28
I have him and now that Deledio is out I'm considering whether to put the VC on him, I know his form against Carlton is not great but I'm expecting a big game from him and his Father would be urging him on to do so.

Alec · 21/03/2016 at 17:26
Wingard is a good option and not to many have him either!

Steeeve · 21/03/2016 at 15:26
Option one: Keeper and significant cash generator.
Option two: Likely burn man and likely burn man.

Big G · 21/03/2016 at 15:45
I'm inclined to say go with option 1 as one keeper/one stepping stone option as opposed to two mid-pricers that can be up and down.

Grahame Lebroy · 21/03/2016 at 15:49
Out of those options I'd go 1. But i want to look at how Boyd goes and try and bring him in as an upgrade target. I am not sold on Rich as a backline keeper, both Weitering and Lonergan should be good stepping stones, but Lonergan does have injury history.
Sarah i think i have heard you say that you are a crows supporter, do u think that Laird will be a top 8 scoring def and keeper this year?

Sarah · 21/03/2016 at 15:54
Hey Grahame, I am a massive crows fan! I like Laird a lot. He's been in and out of my backline as I try to find the right balance. Loved what he's done during the NAB games, however, I think I'll be starting without him and look to pick him up during the season… similar to what you're planning with Boyd!

Grahame Lebroy · 21/03/2016 at 16:15
Thanks Sarah, i like what he has done over pre season and last year. He is priced high, nut hoping he produces the goods SC wise this year.

@randomcliche · 21/03/2016 at 16:05
Hi Sarah
I much prefer 1 over 2 (more guns/rookie which is my pref), but I do know a team that I respect a lot that is running scenario 2. Basically it depends on how many other keepers (inc mid priced junk) you have. If with scenario 1 you have 16 (maybe even 15) potential keepers inc Wells then do that IMO. 14 keepers, then you might value the consistency for a bit longer. That said I just don't trust myself to pick breakout players like Lonergan consistently. Thanks for the call on Gazza's dud shoulder last year. Really appreciate your input into the community.
What are you thoughts on this combo conundrum of mine:
1. Laird + Crouch
2. Shaw + Oliver
Cheers

Sarah · 21/03/2016 at 21:05
Thanks randomcliche, I guess the same advice applies to your scenario as well. It's down to the total number of keepers. Personally though, I like option 1 better. Is there another way to get Shaw, Laird and Crouch?

@randomcliche · 22/03/2016 at 00:21
Thanks Sarah. With the heater option its 15 keepers (inc 3 good quality mid pricers…ya Hall/Libba types) but it pushes out to 15+ stepping stone/over half season prolly to at least the byes with Crouch. I feel more comfortable with that as its 6 upgrades, circa 12 trades to something resembling full premo before hitting some panic trades through the second/third bye rounds.
I could swap Barlow, Robinson or any premo mid into a Laird at D2 via swings but I just don't see him outscoring those types.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 07:54
I wouldn't trade out Barlow, so Robinson would seem the one to go if you want to strengthen up your defence a bit. Laird probably won't outscore a Barlow or Robinson… that's not the right question. The right question to ask is will he be a top 6 defender? You need to have 6 defenders on the ground, they'll likely be outscored by most forwards, midfielders and rucks… but you still have to have them! So it's best to have the more reliable (and potentially more expensive) defenders than high risk, cheaper and unproven defenders… feel like I'm stating the obvious but I think I'll be going with a slightly stronger backline for these reasons.

@randomcliche · 22/03/2016 at 11:54
As you rightly identified I'm running the wafer-thin defence model with two premos, as I think there is more growth in a $500k player on the other lines than in def; so its a D2, M8, R2, F4 setup for me (B.Crouch M8). It comes down to when I think I need to invest the cash on each line, which defence is lowest priority..unfortunately I will have to buy 4 premo defenders…if such a thing exists. All the best with your balanced approach, but I think at the margin the loaded mid is a better approach.

@footy_bec · 21/03/2016 at 16:09
1

TRIGGER HAPPY · 21/03/2016 at 17:28
Hi Sarah I'm going 1 hoping for Boyd to.get me off to a flyer

Sarah · 21/03/2016 at 21:06
That's my thinking too… He's a good looking POD!

TRIGGER HAPPY · 21/03/2016 at 21:21
I think u are the only other team i have seen who is starting boyd. To me he is proven, has a remarkable record under the roof and dogs have first 7 under the roof. Yeah he will be rested but so will every other older defender and we do have a bench.

Phil · 21/03/2016 at 17:44
2nd option Sarah even though I'm not overly sold on Rich, I think Lonergan has the potential to be a top3 back. The signs are there, similar to Swallow a few years back.

Sarah · 21/03/2016 at 21:07
Thanks Phil

Danners · 21/03/2016 at 20:46
Boyd and Weitering

sarah · 21/03/2016 at 21:07
Thanks Danners

Scouser · 22/03/2016 at 00:07
Like it's been said Sarah I'd focus on who you think the keepers are. Personally I'd run with Boyd as a great POD and you could get a jump on other wafer-thin defences.
Also, is there any love for Atkins at the crows, tonned up in both his nab games with an impressive 161 pts per 100 min average and a nice price, looking for cover for crouch if not named rd 1, cheers.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 07:56
I like Atkins a lot, but it's a big risk for a guy who's only played 8 games!! However he's been in the system a couple of years and as you say, he was awesome in the NAB…

Scouser · 22/03/2016 at 19:23
Yeah I hear ya' not much confidence in him myself based on those exact points. I was hoping to hear they have designated a role for him, oh well will just have to keep him on the radar as he looks like he could really be something, cheers

Tret · 21/03/2016 at 15:31
Pretty sure its Wednesday

Wattsieesq · 21/03/2016 at 15:54
Carlton and Richmond on Wednesday. I'm guessing the rest will come out Thursday as per usual even thought there is no Friday night game.

@randomcliche · 21/03/2016 at 16:10
From memory, last year it was something like Wednesday night for Thursday night game, Thursday night for Saturday games with extended squads for Sunday/Monday games. Friday night should see confirmed lineups for Sunday/Monday games. Hopefully something similar this year (or better…all full teams named wednesday…#unliklely)

Scouser · 22/03/2016 at 00:08
Spot on RC was exactly that, unfortunately I can't see it changing, would be nice if it did though.

Big G · 21/03/2016 at 15:44
Lonergan will have break-out year, mark my words.

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 16:20
Agree. Especially while he gets some mid time with their injuries.

Big G · 21/03/2016 at 15:44
Players option below team and then Coaches Choice.

BigHaydos · 21/03/2016 at 16:00
cheers big g brother

Chill · 21/03/2016 at 18:35
Treloar. He will have a dominant year and would be a great early pick. Not many people on him and he is a star.

Randomclcihe · 21/03/2016 at 19:37
Adam Treloar that way you pretty much get both….only short an 's'. Doh

Big balls · 21/03/2016 at 22:09
Adams great POD

BB · 21/03/2016 at 23:30
I've got Adams Steve – hoping for M7 or M8 at the pointy end.

Steve · 21/03/2016 at 15:52
No stay away in my opinion

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 16:18
No. And if someone does happen to say yes, do not listen

Grahame Lebroy · 21/03/2016 at 16:21
Don't touch him no matter what

Phil · 21/03/2016 at 17:38
I'm picking him REN, confident he will be named….

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:47
Burn-man

Scouser · 22/03/2016 at 00:11
Only in a rear view mirror! Avoid at all costs the TBC of 2016!

@footy_bec · 21/03/2016 at 16:12
I think none of them. Could you spend some more and go a S Gray?

CamN17 · 21/03/2016 at 16:30
HOw much is S. Gray? Is he potential premo material?

@footy_bec · 21/03/2016 at 16:36
480k – I think he will make cash and be a keeper forward.

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:51
Only played 10 games last year. Did really well but unproven imo and high priced. If he continues on his way then would be a good upgrade target.

Leeds17 · 21/03/2016 at 19:30
Locked into Ports midfield & will rest forward and be a goal threat, Hinkley loves him.

Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/03/2016 at 21:21
Shhhh, stop spilling the good goss

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:49
Forward line – steele is a good option here
Matt and Brad Crouch have potential to profit and maybe turn into keepers.
Not sure about Zaha although a good player he's at the dons….so yeah.

Scouser · 22/03/2016 at 00:13
Steele could be a very unique pod and will certainly improve his numbers, crouch has best potential though out of that lot I reckon.

@footy_bec · 21/03/2016 at 16:11
2, a gun.

Geoff · 21/03/2016 at 17:33
I think Greene is a better choice. No telling how much time Gray will spend in the middle with Gray, Wines, Boak, Ebert and so going through the guts. I think Greene is a better option as he will be most likely to excel with the departure of Treloar and should spend more midfield time. He can rack up the pill at will as well.

Tret · 21/03/2016 at 16:12
Tuesday's now Johnny

hedski · 21/03/2016 at 16:19
was that only last week cos of public holiday monday?

Tret · 21/03/2016 at 16:28
nah mate, jock said on twitter that podcasts would be released on tuesdays now

hedski · 21/03/2016 at 16:49
No worries cheers tret

hawkboy80 · 21/03/2016 at 17:16
Im in

@footy_bec · 21/03/2016 at 16:14
Unproven to me. No one has even seen him play under Pyke and they have a hard draw.

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:11
Sometimes you have to go with your gut.
Brad Crouch just got 40 touches in his match on the weekend. If he stays fit he will score well.
Draw won't hurt his performance much, especially considering his biggest game in 2014 was 40 touches against the hawks (with dangerfield also getting 41 touches), must've been roughly 20 years old at that stage of his career.
The only thing you should be worried about with a player with that kind of ability (and at that price) is their fitness to play multiple games.
Coach and opponents are irrelevant.

@footy_bec · 21/03/2016 at 16:27
2

@randomcliche · 22/03/2016 at 11:57
Thanks Bec. There is plenty to argue for the #1 defender and top quality growth option in the mids…

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:12
1

Scouser · 22/03/2016 at 00:16
I reckon it depend on your keepers elsewhere Ren, I'm running with weitering at d4 currently as you need to take risks somewhere and defence seems the most logical place, especially with the bombers fillers able to take field spots, option 2 for me.

Derek · 21/03/2016 at 16:48
you have gone with some heavy hitters in the midfield. couldn't find a spot for Rocky? he is really good value.

CoachDamo · 21/03/2016 at 17:12
Defence looks good – although I'm not sure you'll get much from Aish, I'd look elsewhere.
Your other lines are really solid. There are some slight variations (Rocky, Martin, Crouch, Hall) to others but generally looks like a popular side.

@TheNoLanguage · 21/03/2016 at 23:18
Love the Priddis POD. Not sure about the Aish pick though! Big nuts

Jordan · 21/03/2016 at 17:12
You still have unlimited trades throughout the weekend but obviously players who have played can't be traded in or out.

Baggy Pants · 21/03/2016 at 18:52
Thanks Jordan

Gord29 · 21/03/2016 at 17:47
pretty sure you can make changes after the richmond carlton game just not to those players

Baggy Pants · 21/03/2016 at 18:54
Thanks Gordo29 I hoped that was the case

Gord29 · 21/03/2016 at 17:52
use the 207k to go mckenzie to KK or Degoey up

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:53
Cookie cutter

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:27
One of the most consistent players ever.
Has averaged 90-100 SC for the last 10 years. No exaggeration.

Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/03/2016 at 21:23
and with Thurlow out, will definitely keep those points rolling in consistantly

Alec · 21/03/2016 at 17:35
I am highly considering him at the moment

Russ · 21/03/2016 at 18:59
Can't doubt his reliability, much like Simpson and Bartell, they usually deliver.

'Don't Blush Babbie' · 21/03/2016 at 18:01
Ballys having Mills and Oliver, could be a winner though, good luck

fatboyfat7 · 21/03/2016 at 18:35
I'm not the biggest fan of the Kommer pick. I'd prefer Grimley so you can use him as ruck cover if need be by swinging him with Chol. Neither Chol or Grimely will score very big so probably not much difference between cash generation, just offers a little more cover in case one of the ruck boys goes down. Nice team otherwise.

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 19:47
I see potentially 6 of your picks not playing round one.

Bowski · 22/03/2016 at 00:24
Who are the 6??

TRIGGER HAPPY · 21/03/2016 at 17:59
I'm think I'm rolling with big W at d3 giving me a powerful midfield. More points in there I feel.

Jobesbrownlow · 21/03/2016 at 18:08
No.

Noigerbour · 22/03/2016 at 09:41
Yes

Big G · 21/03/2016 at 17:51
Hover over them a they should tell you a bit of useless information (e.g. You should really consider Gary Ablett). Once the season starts, they give an update on how they player is tracking SC-wise and throw in a joke or two.

SCaddict · 21/03/2016 at 17:52
Just a fun fact or other notation that the Supercoach boys think may be of interest to coaches.
If at a PC just hover the mouse over it to discover the pearl of wisdom, fortune cookie style!

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 17:55
Hover your mouse pointer over the green paper for a bit of advice about the player.

Russ · 21/03/2016 at 18:56
Hi Mark, I don't think tooth length is an issue with Sam Mitchell, he's still as gunny as he ever was, and still as keen to play and do well.

Jarrad · 21/03/2016 at 17:52
Joined, hopefully we can have a very strong and competitive league!

Marc · 21/03/2016 at 17:53
Cheers Jarrad

Chill · 21/03/2016 at 18:33
Dea. Cheaper so better value.

Marc · 21/03/2016 at 18:33
1

SC God · 21/03/2016 at 18:34
Weitering, will score more and make more cash

Gord29 · 21/03/2016 at 19:13
Weltering I'm not convinced on the top up players from the bombers yet have read reports they will focus on there youth and players they can keep

Sarah · 21/03/2016 at 19:32
Weitering – he's a lock in Carlton's best 22. Dea isn't for essendon

SCaddict · 22/03/2016 at 00:02
If Dea is named he will find a spot in my side as ultimately I see him as the superior cash generator.
I think Weitering has been way overhyped for what he is. An 18 year old KPP in an awful team is unlikely to be the best fantasy producer once the real stuff starts and will turn out to be somewhat of a disappointing cash cow I feel.

Grahame Lebroy · 22/03/2016 at 06:35
Both. Both r in best 22

Dean · 21/03/2016 at 19:10
If you cannot afford Wines & Parker, then go with Pendles & B Crouch if he is named.
I'm not sold on Cripps, way over priced for mine.

Randomclcihe · 21/03/2016 at 19:50
I like to parker the car, have some wines, then crisps and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Derek · 21/03/2016 at 19:35
I thinking the same. Tried to stretch the dollar too far.

nel · 21/03/2016 at 19:48
with the soft draw Derek would you be starting with wingard lobbe and wines .Its hard not to maybe the grays as well

Russ · 21/03/2016 at 19:27
Giday Dean, you've made it quite clear you're not changing anything from here, so I don't know if you want to hear what my opinion is or not but anyway here goes.
I don't think it's necessary to have Martin and Goldy this year, it's a lot of cash used up, if you kept Martin, you could trade Howe and Rich out for two more reliable scorers coupled with the considerations of trading Wingard and Gunston out for cheaper options, Greene, Hall as an example.
Gawn would be a good replacement for Goldy and save mucho cash, Rance scored an average of 97 last year as his highest average, before that, it was 88 I think, I think Rance is a good option, but think your other backline options might not score you too well, or they will, maybe.
I think we all need to eliminate the Maybes as much as possible this year.

Gord29 · 21/03/2016 at 19:11
he's a keeper but there is the risk he might drop a fair bit. Could come out with some huge scores also

Falcon · 21/03/2016 at 20:01
Yeah i know thats why i hard
He may come out a pump out massive scores
But his nab form doesnt suggest thatll happen

CoachDamo · 21/03/2016 at 19:15
I'm starting without him. I expect his price is more likely to come down to $500 000 rather than go up over $600 000 so he might be an upgrade at some stage during the year.

Falcon · 21/03/2016 at 20:02
Yeah thats the feeling im getting too

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 20:27
Agree.

Noigerbour · 22/03/2016 at 09:46
And use an extra trade to get him in

Dean · 21/03/2016 at 19:18
Not keen on Martin this year, I believe Gunston will score just as good as him as he is super consistent and I really like Wingard also this year, he proved it last season and is entering his prime years as a player now.

Falcon · 21/03/2016 at 20:04
From whats been coming from port
Wingard will be staying up forward not getting much mid time
And gunston will have the number 1 defender everyweek till roughy comes back
But i did look at gunston

Sarah · 21/03/2016 at 19:31
Dahlhaus – similar priced, should average 100+ again

Falcon · 21/03/2016 at 20:04
Will he get the same mid time with libba back?

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 20:32
He's lifted his average SC scores over the last two years, hard to fault him.

Falcon · 21/03/2016 at 21:04
Yeah i looked him up again
Im looking at gray and using the extra money to spend on rookies
Maybe
Ill have to think about it again hahaha

Mac · 21/03/2016 at 20:16
Sauce 100%

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 23:26
Mummy could be the best ruck in the comp but he wont be because he cant get through a season.

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 20:21
All should have a good 2016. Not really possible to pick who will do the best out of the three.

Danners · 21/03/2016 at 20:43
Gibson if you want to play it safe

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 20:26
Do you need the 20k for someone? Or are you just trying to max out your salary cap?
I'd never sacrifice the picks I want just to have a little more money on field.

Mac · 22/03/2016 at 07:07
20k for weitering instead of Dea

Marco_Polo94 · 22/03/2016 at 11:28
Cant go wrong with either Dea or Weitering imo

Mac · 21/03/2016 at 20:16
You go do players then coaches choice on the left hand side.

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 20:44
1 = Highest scoring but includes highest injury risk and loss of value if they don't perform. Reward could be high though with all 3 guys capable of large scores.
2 = Pendlebury and Houli are at prices where you can't really see them dropping by much value. Matt Crouch is 100% fit and firing to take the inside mid spot left by Danger.
Costs a little more than his brother though and debatable whether he can match brad's scoring potential.
Lower risk. Maybe lower reward week in week out.
3 = Similar to above option. Is Fyfe worth the extra over Pendlebury?
When you break it down, hard to ignore option one.

Phil · 21/03/2016 at 23:00
Definitely option1

Grahame Lebroy · 22/03/2016 at 06:36
1

murray · 22/03/2016 at 11:09
no.1

snowy · 21/03/2016 at 23:12
What magazine was that?

Danners · 22/03/2016 at 09:19
Jock Reynolds magazine last year, has some great tips

Russ · 21/03/2016 at 21:17
Hang onto it, if you're happy with your team, could come in handy.

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 21:27
Bonner on field seems odd. Can't see him breaking into the team. Didn't even play a NAB game………..
Gore doubtful for round one, never know though.
Petracca playing seems to be up in the air at the moment after the toe injury. he is training again afaik.
Not convinced Galluci is ready.
100K could upgrade zac smith? or maybe petracca/gore/mcpherson if you want to take the punt on oliver for 200k?
I'm not sure how long he'll hold his spot with petracca and brayshaw coming back though. (If he even has a spot right now.
If you're happy with your picks at the moment save the 100k and tweak team on round one announcement.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 21/03/2016 at 21:24
I'm not starting him but intend to trade him in for a fat rookie around rd 7 dpp is a bonus.

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 21:31
I don't think you can afford a zero on the bench at the start of the season, especially if you don't know exactly when he returns.

Tret · 21/03/2016 at 21:35
Oliver and Parish. Gresham doesnt look like having great JS but hopefully he plays. Looks a gun.
The lack of mid rookies this year is shite

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 22:00
Really think they will play an 18 year old all year? he only played one NAB game which I find odd.
The problem with paying 200k is that if they miss games you have an expensive asset sitting on the bench. Plus they need to score well to profit.
Not convinced oliver and parish will do that. Might just fill my mid bench with menadue/kennedy and use one low priced rookie like davis or at most gresham.

Southern S · 21/03/2016 at 22:00
menadue + kennedy*

Russ · 22/03/2016 at 01:56
Replied in the rate my team thread mate.

@TheNoLanguage · 23/03/2016 at 22:02
Cheers Russ!

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 23:39
not sure why you would select either of them to be honest.

Blueth · 21/03/2016 at 23:43
if you're one to get carried away on potential + Nab scores then Cutler might rock your boat.

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 23:48
lol. very true. just so much value out there though.

Holty · 21/03/2016 at 23:53
hope you are planning on starting Kerridge on field? apart from that, looks like a solid team. The forward line is where you will make the money early on so i wouldnt worry about the forward line at present. as long as you have the right players selected to make you money.

burndog · 22/03/2016 at 15:42
Yeah Holty…I haven't really given the rooks a heap of thought. I'll wait until teams are named. I was thinking of putting Kerridge on the bench and if he has a blinder I'd start Petracca or some other rookie that was a few weeks away from getting involved. Otherwise I'd just leave him on the bench and roll the dice.

@TheNoLanguage · 22/03/2016 at 00:02
I like it mate. Particularly the backline. I went with Laird, Simpson and Mcgovern but also tossing up between Rampe!

Russ · 22/03/2016 at 00:45
Giday Burnman, comparisons between Simpson and Rance are quite different, Simpson has averaged around 95 since 2009, Rance have averaged mid to high 80's from 2011 to 2014, 2015 was the first year he increased his average to 97, can he maintain a 90's average?, I reckon Kade is more reliable, although a bit toothlong…and in a lowly Team, but that hasn't stopped him.

burndog · 22/03/2016 at 15:44
Cheers Russ! I'm a bit down on the Blues overall…and worried about having two blue bagger defenders. I might throw Bartel in the mix. Worried about him missing some games, but he's a gun.

rosy · 22/03/2016 at 10:38
One of the better starting lineups I've seen so far. Good luck.

Grahame Lebroy · 22/03/2016 at 07:28
I don't like the idea of starting with him this year. There r better options that are cheaper

GoHawks · 22/03/2016 at 11:08
Cant see it changing too much.
Maybe expect Parker and possibly Rockliff to make the top 10, at the expense of Dusty & Mundy. Ablett if fit will be top 10 (but if fit is the key, I dont think he will play enough games).
Pendles may finish 4th-6th in total points if his role is changed.

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 11:53
Pendles role hasn't changed. He's always been majority midfield and floats around the ground because he can win the ball in defence or forward and kick goals.
Pendlebury expects to play 80% midfield with stints in the half forward and half back. Multiple reports of this from an interview with Pendle.
All players will be doing such things with the lower rotation cap. Can't see it hurting pendles score he may even surprise and increase it.

burndog · 22/03/2016 at 12:25
I can see J Selwood getting back in there if Danger taking the main tag frees him up a bit. I feel like last year was a blip for him but if he can get the body right this season he should bounce back.
If.

Derek · 22/03/2016 at 08:40
Why Crouch over Libba. Is that just your heart, save $50k or other reason?

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 08:55
A bit of everything really… heart, POD (from Libba), potential, players returning from ACLs generally take a full year to get back their full mobility etc, gut feeling, dogs reduced reliance on Libba, save $50k… so a few things, but mostly I think it's the gut feel that I don't think Libba will be the player we'd be expecting him to be this year. I don't think he'll be a keeper and as a midpricer he won't make much money. Therefore I'd prefer to go Crouch, who has scope to make more money than Libba, is needed more in the crows engine room than Libba is in the dogs engine room, and if traded will be my last upgrade trade.
Many will disagree with me, but this is why I've gone Crouch over Libba.

Derek · 22/03/2016 at 09:48
Interesting……….. When SuperCoach first opened I put Libba in my team and he hasn't moved. Makes me just have a tiny doubt. Thanks sarah

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 10:11
I had him in at the start too, along with Yeo and B Smith… things change!

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/03/2016 at 12:59
Same. now I have none. posted after libbas last game that he looked slow and don't think he will suit the dogs gun and run style. Someone who does is his teammate hunter who has found his way into my team in his place.

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 11:46
Agree 100% with the reasons. If Libba gets a couple of 100+'s in round one and two can always do a corrective trade to get him won't be the end of the world.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 12:16
Agreed! Thanks Southern S

kevwal · 22/03/2016 at 08:51
Hi Sarah. I have no Weitering either, same logic. I do not have Mills either, same logic. I currently have a near as damn it guns/rookies. 3-6(includes Rocky)-2-3(includes Wells) keepers=14. Liberatore(will be B crouch if picked rd1) and 15 rookies. I've never been able to get close to a pure guns/rookies before and it looks good. As per usual, defence rookies will be my undoing. Good luck for the season.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 09:01
Thanks for the comment kevwal. I've gone Mills as mid rookies are pretty light on this year and he looks locked into the swans team. At least he isn't a KPP like Weitering! Set up looks good, it's all down to team selection now… fingers crossed and good luck for this year to you too.

Loop · 22/03/2016 at 09:26
Weitering isnt in my team for the same reasons. I decided to take a punt on B Crouch instead of Libba because I think that the Doggies have a lot of players now who are capable of high scores. I could be wrong but I dont care.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 10:10
Lol! 'I could be wrong but I don't care'!!! Gold Loop!

Holty · 22/03/2016 at 10:27
Why Harwood Sarah? Never played more then 16 games in a season.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 11:47
Hi Holty, I don't see Harwood as a keeper. I see him as a player who will score more consistently than Weitering and hold down that spot til mid season, providing my backline with more stability than if I put another rookie in that position.

Grahame Lebroy · 22/03/2016 at 11:54
Really like that you have backed in Shaw, Boyd and Houli to be 3 keepers in your Def. Your Prepared to pay the price early for solid points there. But i do feel you have gone too deep in Def and too light in the Fwd line. Mind you it could prove to be a masterstroke POD team structure considering all the teams that we have seen to are very light in Def. Personally i would downgrade Harwood to a Dea type and use the cash in the fwd line. One of your crow boys in Lyons could be a great stepping stone POD in your Fwd line, and by using him you could take a little risk out of the Fwd line with all the rookies you have there. Just my thoughts, could be wrong.
Mids and Rucks look solid.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 12:15
You know what Grahame, that is an excellent suggestion!! I'm looking closer at Lyons as we speak. Can't believe I hadn't looked at him sooner! Thanks and good luck for the season!!

Grahame Lebroy · 22/03/2016 at 13:12
Hope it works out, good luck to you and everyone for the season ahead

abel · 22/03/2016 at 12:35
Great side S. Love the Lonergan pick. I had my eye on Cutler over Harwood. Thoughts?

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 12:45
Cheers Abel. Cutler did look good in the NAB and has great potential. I guess it comes done to gut feel if you think he’s going to breakout? His stats from both NAB games were impressive.

abel · 22/03/2016 at 12:55
Cheers. Have a ripping year

One Touch Wonder · 22/03/2016 at 13:07
I've had Cutler in and out of my team. I have rich in there at the moment so didn't want to many Brisbane boys. lions don't have the easiest first half of the draw, so the ball will be down back a bit and if he is any good should get it a few times. but i probably won't pick him.

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 13:57
I'd take Cutler for 290k over Rich for 425k in a heartbeat.
Rich is at his typical scoring price and Cutler is an up and coming young player who could breakout this year.
Rich and keeper don't belong int he same sentence, so may as well risk the one with larger profit potential.
Cutler currently at D4 for me.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/03/2016 at 13:07
good looking team well thought out. we are all gonna be stuffed if ruggles and davis don't get upgrades. as I too have both on the bench and $20k in the kitty. not enough to upgrade both to a $117k rook. so will have to do the rejig dance.
I'm the opposite taking a punt and going light in defence only expecting 70's from weithering which I think he can manage. all my focus has been in my midfield which will not change barring injury until the byes.
what happened to ward? thought you were big on him?

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 13:22
Haha, I've been keen on a lot of them over the preseason.. Parker was a lock until a week ago as well!! I guess the main change to my thinking has been the unreliability of the $400k defenders that dominated my early teams with rookies. Now I'm planning to go stronger there as you can see, so someone had to give in the midfield and it was the position previously held by Ward, and Parker turned into Cripps. So the money from Ward was used to upgrade to Houli and Boyd, who I much prefer seeing them in my backline than an extra rookie. I still like Ward and Parker and will be watching them closely during the season as upgrade targets.

@randomcliche · 22/03/2016 at 17:27
Why did Parker get the chop? Cripps is a good pick. For mine throw a blanket of shiel, cripps, wines, parker.

@randomcliche · 22/03/2016 at 17:28
*over

Sarah · 23/03/2016 at 09:05
Parker only got the chop because I wanted Cripps and someone had to make way! I still love Parker.

Shake n bake · 22/03/2016 at 13:25
Was goin to say pretty much the same thing if McD Ruggles Davis don't get up might struggle to regig but I'm sure you have a second option. P. S I'm sure you were all over Shiel have you gone cold or was Cripps to good to give up? Is it to save coin?

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 13:39
Hi Shake n bake!
If that happens my plan is to cut Kennedy and use his cash to get slightly more expensive rookies. Hopefully they play though! I was all over Ward a couple of weeks ago. I don't think you can go wrong with Shiel or Ward, but I've decided to take a risk on Cripps… and yes it's a risk! I dont see the forward line as that big a risk as that just happens to be where the rookies are this year. Usually it's in the midfield but we don't seem to have many… well, that aren't below $200k! I've got astrong backline, midfield and rucks, and I'm happy with my lighter forward line. Kerridge and Wells, while cheap, should score well so it's not as weak as it might look at first glance. So to help give my team an edge I'm picking Cripps for a further breakout third year!! Fingers crossed!!!

Shake n bake · 22/03/2016 at 14:07
I went Cripps as well. it is risk, he's 1st year was a right off but yes in he's 3rd year and hoping there is a lot of upside at he's price. Like u said fingers crossed! On Ward signed up till 2021 in a happy place only could be good!

The Ranger · 22/03/2016 at 13:28
Looks good Sarah, risky forward line but they should all at least make money rather than lose it.
i completely agree on Weitering, first year defensive KPP's are generally not the way to go.
I'm sticking with Libba tho, NAB is just NAB I think he'll be just fine when the real stuff starts.
I'm still really tempted by Hall but I'd have to lose Barlow to make it happen…whats ya thoughts on that one?

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 13:44
Hi Ranger!
As you can see I like Hall too. He's been locked in my team for many weeks now and he isn't going anywhere unless he injures himself before round 1. I wouldn't get rid of Barlow to get him though. Barlow is a bigger lock… but only just IMO!!
Even though I've gone light in the forward line to start with, I still think it'll score reasonably well with Wells and Kerridge in there. Kennedy has looked good in the preseason and I'm expecting him to score well enough to be on the field. You need to go light somewhere though and without many midfield rookies, it's the forward line for me. This way I'll be able to assess the premos and trade them in throughout the season as there aren't too many jumping out at me at the moment.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 13:45
I'd need to know who else is in your forward line to give better advice…

The Ranger · 22/03/2016 at 15:07
Current fwd line is…
Dusty, Dahlhaus, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, McCarthy
I'm likely to stick with Barlow but I do like the look of Hall, he had a fantastic end to last year and looks to be carrying that form on even it was only in NAB.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 15:21
This is just my opinion, but if you really like Hall, I'd cut Dahlhaus. Hunter is on the up, Libba is back, I think he's at his peak price and could be picked up during the season for a lot cheaper. I prefer to start with value selections where possible (and yes, I am aware that I'm not following that advice in my backline!!)

The Ranger · 22/03/2016 at 18:32
I had considered it but Dahlhaus has runs on the board ya know?
I want my keepers to be (barring injury) definite keepers and I can safely put Dahlhaus in that class I think.
Even if he does get a little less mid time this year he'll still be there or thereabouts come season end.
Barlow might not be if he goes forward again and Hall hasn't been doing it long enough yet.
Youi're right to point out the value that Hall offers…decisions, decisions…

Sarah · 23/03/2016 at 09:46
I don't know, I'm a bit unsure about Dahlhaus at his price… he's only averaged over 100 once which was last year. But, you gotta go with your gut first and foremost in this game!

Doc · 22/03/2016 at 08:28
Won't play. Not in best 22 IMO.

GoHawks · 22/03/2016 at 11:03
Will struggle to get regular games, and wont score as well against good teams.

Thom · 22/03/2016 at 09:11
I have a feeling Gray can take it up another level.

GoHawks · 22/03/2016 at 11:02
Gray just, but prefer others.

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 08:59
Lonergan. Will play in the middle for GC, therefore has higher scoring potential.

abel · 22/03/2016 at 12:38
Agree. Lonergan should make good early cash and may even become servicable d6

clem · 22/03/2016 at 09:29
dont see this team getting you all the way to the final, but it's a start

Derek · 22/03/2016 at 09:50
See if you can fit Zac Dawson in. You need a reliable C each week

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 11:43
Great team if you like donuts.

Clem · 22/03/2016 at 09:27
could really improve the whole team mate,
lets just here what jock has to say

Ethan017 · 22/03/2016 at 09:28
I think these players could take their game to the next level this year

clem · 22/03/2016 at 09:30
could really improve the whole team mate,

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 11:42
Especially the two kerridge's one in the forward line one in the mid. That's a great tactic why didn't I think of cloning.
O'meara will go to the next level on whatever video game he's playing at the moment I guarantee that. won't be in AFL for a while though.

GoHawks · 22/03/2016 at 11:01
mid-priced madness.

murray · 22/03/2016 at 11:06
ugly

beast · 22/03/2016 at 11:24
i think i just got aids from this team absolute shittest team ive ever seen

nel · 22/03/2016 at 12:39
was that 850 u badly need Liam Jones and zac then you got but not much im sick urrrghhhh

abel · 22/03/2016 at 12:41
Should be a prize for lowest scoring team. Just as hard as pumping out the 3000 we all want

nel · 22/03/2016 at 12:36
your team rosy

Itchy balls · 22/03/2016 at 13:12
Yes Rosy whats your side looking like?

rosy · 23/03/2016 at 09:38
Team is still in flux but I definitely have those four players I talked about. They'll have to PROVE through poor scroing that they aren't worth it.
Abel is right – we have to take 'some' risks but I think I have limited them. They are:
1 – No Pendlebury for the first time in forever. I'd like to see how he works with Treloar, De Goey etc
2 – Daniel Wells at F4. Even though many teams will have him, I'm not 100% about his ability to stay on the park.
3 – B. Crouch at M6 (pending round 1 selection). Have a gut feeling he'll finish the year upwards of $500k. Good stepping stone.
3.5 – A.Hall at F3. Not looking like much of a gamble with all of the GC mid injuries. Half a gamble.

abel · 22/03/2016 at 12:43
I agree…but price forces risk picking somewhere

rosy · 22/03/2016 at 10:31
I think Menadue's time has come. Looked solid in the NAB and there is no green vest this year.

CapTnKaOs · 22/03/2016 at 11:27
Yep…and with the injury carnage at Richmond, he should get some games.

abel · 22/03/2016 at 12:44
Menadue and greshem have much higher scoring potential based on position imo

GoHawks · 22/03/2016 at 10:59
Cripps for mine, weak team will over-possess the ball, wins the ball himself.

Redgumwon · 22/03/2016 at 12:02
Shiel I think he'll really have a break out season this year if he stays fit

Blueth · 22/03/2016 at 12:31
Guthrie

abel · 22/03/2016 at 12:46
All good. I'd go shiel of the 3

@randomcliche · 22/03/2016 at 23:35
Throw a blanket over all of their scoring differences at year end; so save the couple of $ and go with Cripps. Oh, and Cripps outscored each of the others in his first year, he is younger but still in that breakout zone. But I'm not running any of them.

Grahame Lebroy · 22/03/2016 at 11:42
Yes Blueth he is currently sitting at F5 in my side as it stands. Very much an overlooked player, think he will be a great stepping stone this year

Blueth · 22/03/2016 at 12:36
god we're smart

abel · 22/03/2016 at 12:47
Is he on the best 22? if so i like it

Blueth · 22/03/2016 at 13:04
you betcha

Blueth · 22/03/2016 at 13:05
him, Patton and Menzel are all around the same price. Very tough choice

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 14:39
Wouldn't touch Patton or Menzel with a barge pole.

Redgumwon · 22/03/2016 at 12:57
Where did Lyons spend most of his time playing in the NAB? I'm now thinking of taking out Oliver and putting Lyons into my midfield or forward line. I just can't for the life of me remember much about his games in the NAB. I know he was the bub plenty of times last year in the season proper

Sarah · 22/03/2016 at 15:22
Midfield

Redgumwon · 22/03/2016 at 16:31
Thanks Sarah. By the sounds of it he's missed out on a lot of the hype that the Crouch boys and a couple of others have received. Seems that Lyon maybe a little down in the pecking order? I guess we'll have to wait until Saturday for teams to see the final teams. Pity Melbourne play before Adelaide.

Blueth · 22/03/2016 at 15:36
the only doubt for me on him is the crows super tough R1-R12

Marco_Polo94 · 22/03/2016 at 11:24
In mate

@wheels_1987 · 23/03/2016 at 12:23
joined!
thanks for the code

Redgumwon · 22/03/2016 at 12:00
I really liked what I saw in the NAB games. I think with the injuries to key on ballers and all the young kids in the line up. Leppa will be calling on his hard nuts like Robbo to play in the middle more. Looks like he will continue on like he finished last year. A great POD as well. I've traded out Dusty for Robbo at this stage

Swans2012 · 22/03/2016 at 12:13
Considering the same, will do if team selections result in me needing more cash to fill my bench

Nathan · 22/03/2016 at 12:31
Yeah i made the swap from dusty too
Just frees up that little extra

steve · 22/03/2016 at 12:20
maybe de goey with varcoe injured?

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 14:33
I don't worry about cash at all, until I have all my players in. They must all have good reasons for being picked.
Then I'll use any leftover cash to eliminate who I think are the biggest risks. I wouldn't worry if you have a bit of cash leftover going into round one if you are confident in your squad, you can always use it to upgrade a failed mid pricer etc.
That saying don't go into round one with 2 mill in the bank it's sure to backfire as every rookie and mid pricer will not pay off!

Chris · 22/03/2016 at 16:04
thanks heaps mate, im actually on the other end of the scale and have made a solid team but only have $100 left is this too little

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 16:57
That's fine. In theory the more on the park the better.

@randomcliche · 22/03/2016 at 17:37
+1 Southern S…. Players are priced based on the points they can score, more $ on field the better. Don't need to save it as you can bring cash on to field by trading out cash cows, getting more $ on field scoring more points. That's how this goes.

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 20:13
lol yes I'm aware of that, doesn't mean someone worth 600k is going to score their average in the first few rounds, let alone in that season.
Plus rookies and mid pricers can be undervalued, you can score as much as someone with all their money on the park, whilst having 500k in your bank, that's how this goes.
Things change, roles change, players age, rookies get more mid time.
This is why people won't pay for someone at their ceiling.

Southern S · 22/03/2016 at 20:15
Basically what I should've said is if your team is exactly who you want, and you believe everyone has growth potential then having 100k or so in the bank doesn't hurt.

@randomcliche · 22/03/2016 at 23:25
I'd go further, there was some optimisation done one year one this site, but I can't seem to find it where they compared what was the minimum budget required to beat the previous years winner. Turned out to be like about $6.X million, might have even been less. Then they run the analysis with the $10m budget constraint and said how much can you score… and well that went stoopid high. So if you draw the conclusion from that the more you spend the better. I have toyed with the idea of keeping nearly $500k back before bringing it in round 5 for an early double upgrade….but I just can't seem to make the logic for it stack up. Basically, it put you circa 40 points per week behind for 5 weeks, then give you an extra rookie to cull later on for a bit more cash which then allows more point scoring later in the year, note this relies on the assumption that you run out of rookies to cull. Anyways, I'm spending the lot having strongly considered about not doing it.