Jock’s 2016 Cheat Sheet

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Jock Reynolds Coach Kings

How PUMPED are you community!

Our very own CoachKings In-Venue game by game fantasy footy will roll out to pubs and clubs nation wide before we know it. Get around it on facebook here.

And the time has arrived to finalise our long form fantasy Supercoach and AFL Fantasy teams!

I’ve bailed myself up in the bungalow to craft this final version of the cheat sheet for the season.

Be strong community. Be brave. Be disciplined. Always remember.. so often it’s that bloke you DON’T pick that can make your season. Take a risk by all means. Back your gut instincts. But above all else.. back in blokes that have proven themselves in a regular season of AFL Footy.




Michael · 17/03/2016 at 12:33

Great stuff Jock!
This is currently my team, version 2865 haha but I think I am set in terms of who my premiums, mid pricers and PODs
Def: Shaw, Laird, Birchall, Dea, Byrne-Jones, Broad (Hartley, Adams)
Mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Liberatore, Wells, Mills (Gresham, Keays, Davis)
Ruc: Goldstein, Naitanui (Wyatt)
Fwd: Barlow, Greene, Hall, Kennedy, Menadue, Kerridge (Brown, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

    BigM · 17/03/2016 at 14:26

    Oh yes so many versions
    I to think…. am set on premiums, is just those couple of mids and final decision on rookies

TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 12:44

Fantastic work Jock. Always deliver.

Speaking of which:

How do I go about posting a link on your website?

I have put together a table of every nab cup supercpoach score with disposal efficiency, time on ground, supercoach score expanded by time on ground etc that I would like to share with the community. As I think it would help as if you look at a SC score and go wow they didn't score much but if they only spent 30% on ground when rounded out to 100% TOG then it looks much better. Granted I know no one spends 100% TOG but for this exercise it is at least a good comparison tool.

Can you let me know how I post a link or send me an email that I can send it to so Jock can post it to share with the community?


The EggMan · 17/03/2016 at 12:55

For large plums only, join this league
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CrackersFC · 17/03/2016 at 13:06

Jock and Team, you magnificent bastards!!

Nypsies · 17/03/2016 at 13:06

Great work Jock
Please rate my team:

Def: Laird, JJ, Lonergan, Weitering, Dea, Brown (Adams, Ruggles)
Mid: Fyfe, Danger, Gaz, Rocky, Wines, Libba, BCrouch, Mills (Mendue,Keys,Davis)
Ruck: Goldy, Max (Wyatt)
Fwd: Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Grimley, AMT)

$88k leftover

    CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 13:25

    Looks good I want to risk wells but I can see him being last years bell dong!

    Will put my team up it is my final team except for last tweaks for rookies leading to season proper.

      Kev · 17/03/2016 at 16:16

      I totally agree, Carla! Wells in my team but it's just not sitting right with me.

    wombatsfc · 17/03/2016 at 17:33

    Great team nippa I'll be suprised if you don't win.

mitch · 17/03/2016 at 13:08

how do you feel about Wayno Milera jock? and the big man Zorks?

    mark · 17/03/2016 at 19:18

    mileras in my team

      Jimmy · 18/03/2016 at 12:15

      wouldnt be a bad pick, would just be cautious about charlie cameron and riley knight coming back from injury, could effect his spot in the side

Norgy · 17/03/2016 at 13:08

Awesome job Jock.
Would love some feedback on my team.
Defence: Shaw, Laird, J Lonergan, Dea, Broad, (Collins, McDonald-Tipungwuti)
Midfield: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Priddis, Cripps, Liberatore, Mills, Menadue, (Hewett, Hibberd, Davis)
Ruck: S Martin, Gawn, (Cox)
Forwards: D Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, (Grimley, Adams)

    Norgy · 17/03/2016 at 13:09

    $80k left over

    wombatsfc · 17/03/2016 at 17:34

    Great team Norgy I'll be suprised if you don't win.

    Hawker · 17/03/2016 at 17:48

    This team is seriously quality

      rowdz · 17/03/2016 at 19:22

      Not really, Will be hard to win playing 1 short in backline every week

    Norgy · 17/03/2016 at 18:14

    Cheers lads. Only question mark is maybe Cripps to Rocky and Priddis to Pendles.

      Josh · 17/03/2016 at 22:01

      Go with rocky leave priddas though week in week out he will do his job

Ian · 17/03/2016 at 13:12

Pick 1 in Supercoach Draft. Who do you take? Gazza, Fyfe, Goldy?

    PJ8 · 17/03/2016 at 13:14


    Rod · 17/03/2016 at 13:22

    Goldy by a mile!

    jockreynolds · 17/03/2016 at 13:23


    @randomcliche · 17/03/2016 at 13:59


    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 15:24

    I was in that position myself and snapped up Goldy without hesitation.

    Then use your next couple of picks on the snake configuration rebound drafting at least one elite mid if not two.

      Ian · 17/03/2016 at 16:02

      Cheers. what's the snake config??

      Ian · 17/03/2016 at 16:36

      Sorry, ignore that other comment, i see what you mean now. Any other tips? cheers

The EggMan · 17/03/2016 at 13:13

just having a play, but what about a totally different angle in the midfield rather than the cookie cutter. what about this with the idea of 'underpriced' in mind and 'early cash generation' with quick early trades to pick off what ever 'premo' falls first & when they fall…

mid; priddis, sidebum, shiel, parker, m.duncan, j.kelly, libba, b.crouch (mills, petracca, r.davis)

completely different from what I think I will take in, just trying to throw up a different option altogether… too risky?

    PJ8 · 17/03/2016 at 13:17

    Midfield full of PODs. Is a risk, could go one way or another. On one hand you could be a genius and be ranked no.1 overall but on the other could be a long way back overall very quickly.

    Kev · 17/03/2016 at 13:20

    Admire that you're thinking outside the box, mate. A lot of trading to do to get a full premium midfield by the byes. Could pay off if all goes right, in my experience, it rarely does

      The EggMan · 17/03/2016 at 13:31

      absolutely agree!
      but if say any of fyfe/pendles/ablett/danger have one bad game, say drop by 50k, and any of the selected have a blinder and increase by 50k, a quick trade could make a quick 100k gain..? but are there enough trades..?

        The Ranger · 17/03/2016 at 13:46

        It's the trade that counts EggMan….what price do you put on a trade?
        It's always a tricky question.
        Every year I contemplate doing something similar and have never had the plums to try it!

    jockreynolds · 17/03/2016 at 20:07

    Love any bloke willing to buck the trend Egg. Do it. Only live once son. Goldy in the ruck, Shaw down back to bolster up your point scoring generation and give it a crack.

      Team Piz · 18/03/2016 at 15:57

      Yeah do it Egg! See how it turns out son!

azza · 17/03/2016 at 13:19

hey guys, one of my friends want some advice/feedback on his team. Any help will be appreciated>

Def: Shaw,rich,johanissen,t.sheridan,dea,AMT (Adams,Hartley)

Mid:Dangerfield,ablett,Hannerbery,L.Hunter,M.crouch,libba,mills,parish (greesham,hewett,davis)


Fwd: zorko,barlow,hall,wells,menadue,kerridge (b.kennedy,petracca)

He also has 250k left to make changes once the season starts, if any of the midpricers flop

Thanks guys

    @randomcliche · 17/03/2016 at 14:05

    Zorko? Suspended round 2.
    Hunter? Would take B crouch or B Gibbs if cash okay
    Parish? Not particularly good preseason. Oliver perhaps.
    Get another uber premo in ya mids

    rosco72 · 17/03/2016 at 17:55

    I don't mind it, Zorko to Robinson and use that 250k to upgrade Hunter.

    Dean · 18/03/2016 at 20:09

    You dont have M Brown from Essendon in your defence or forward he is a MUST have cheap rookie, maybe consider changing Menadue to M Brown.

    Pi$$ hunter off and bring in a Fyfe, Pendles, Priddis and Rockliff

    To keep cash in the bank only stops you from generating points spend the money to make the best possible team mate.

The Ranger · 17/03/2016 at 13:34

No Zac Dawson on the cheat sheet Jock?!

    Wattsieesq · 17/03/2016 at 16:57

    Um, that Derek's joke. I hope you gave him royalties for using it : )

      Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:21

      He is very akwardly priced………

      he is the only player i know who has ended every season at a lower price than he started the season…every season.

        Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:34

        next year he will be rookie priced!

    jockreynolds · 17/03/2016 at 20:09

    Agonised over getting him in Ranger. Just feel his role is uncertain.. Prestigiacomo could take some points off him.

    Sarah · 17/03/2016 at 20:37

    I think James Gwilt would be a better pick. A good veteran presence in the Ess backline.

CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 13:36

Ok guys & girls my team is up at last but rookies will change

R.Laird, K.Simpson, J.Bartel, D.Rich, M.Hartley, K. Collins (Tipung… T.Ruggles)

P.Danger, S.Pendlebury, G.Ablett, D.Shiel, T.Rockliff, T.Liberatore, B.Crouch, B.Kennedy (J.Gresham, D.Gore, R.Davis)

T.Goldthing, M.Gawn (M.Cox)

M.Barlow, T.Green, A.Hall, W.Milera, S.Kerridge, C.Petracca (S.Grimley, M.Brown)

    Holty · 17/03/2016 at 14:02

    like it. going deeper in that backline certainly helps.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 14:10

    Looks like petrecca won't play till rd3-5 so u might b a bit light on at f6 with brown or grimley based on the sc scores in last two nab cup games.

      CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 14:17

      Ok thanks for the heads up Trigger. Much to think about with these rooks

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 15:33

    I'll be running with a Barlow/Greene/Hall forward line as well.

    But I reckon you should reconsider skipping on Wells. Hasn't put a foot wrong in the NAB and looks ready to roll. Less than $70K up from Milera too.

    I also like that Laird and Simmo are your lynch pins in defence. I expect both to be very reliable performers this season.

      Liam · 17/03/2016 at 16:24

      How's your team looking SC ? Would love to get a look.

        SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 18:22

        I will be revealing all very soon Liam.

        Just typing up a bit of a spiel about philosophy and strategy on how I intend to approach Supercach 2016 atm which I'll then copy and paste into the comments section of one of the upcoming articles here.

        So just keep reading Jock's articles and there's no way you will miss it. 🙂

          Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:14

          can't wait.

            SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 21:54

            You have to build suspense Derek.

            I look forward to your full dissection as you rip it to shreds although there's no way you'll be able to talk me into Lobbe at R2. 🙂

          Liam · 17/03/2016 at 19:39

          Cheers Addict, look forward to it.

    Wattsieesq · 17/03/2016 at 17:01

    Great team. One of the best I've seen going around. Goodluck for the season ahead

      CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 18:53

      Ty guys now SCaddict has got me thinking am missing out on Wells? Like what would we expect from him or rather what would we want from him?

      I reckon anything over 85 average for 7 rounds would be amazing and definitely would justify the pick but I have a bad feeling about it.

      I do think he can average 80-90 easy all year if he stays fit of course.

        Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:15

        i've jumped on the Wells bandwagon, but avoided Greene, Hall so i could stay with 3 keepers in forward line. Wells at F4 im happy with.

        SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 19:18

        I think 85 is a fairly conservative estimate. He was averaging high 90s up until he got hurt.

        It's not like he's come back out of shape or lost his touch and in fact was the Roos second best player just behind Goldy in NAB2 with 119 SC pts. He was also tearing up their intra-club matches too.

        Sure he's a slightly elevated injury risk but at under $250K it's a no brainer in my eyes. We just need him to play at least the first 6 or 7 games and am confident that if so then he can make us $200K plus especially with North's favourable early draw.

        He's in most teams for a reason so I just don't want to see you miss out.

          CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 20:22

          I had no idea he was going that well before his injuries that is significant!!!
          Thank you for looking out for me addict I owe you a Coke

    WoodySpoon · 17/03/2016 at 21:09

    While Ruggles might be a good option we prob won’t know until it’s too late. He’ll probably be named on an extended interchange, but as Cats are not playing till Monday they won’t name the team for sure until it’s too late to pick anyone else if he doesn’t make the team.
    Bit of an issue for Geelong rooks.

    Dean · 18/03/2016 at 21:41

    Nice balanced side Carla, with a very interesting POD selection by not going with Mills, Dea & Wells which most have including myself. It's interesting how you chose to spend quite allot in defence. I actually was thinking of ways to go lighter in my defence, however your defence is so much stronger then mine, although that does not concern me.
    Every season it proves that defence is the HARDEST position to chose quality defenders that are keepers even when spending $500k – The only true premo each season seems to be Shaw other then him its a lottery.

    This is my side
    Rance, Laird, D.Rich, Dea, M Brown, Broad (Hartly, Collins)

    Fyfe, Danger, Pendlebury, GAJ, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Kerridge (Gresham, Petracca, Davis)

    Goldy, Gawn (Wyatt)

    Wingard, Gunston, Barlow, Wells, Kennedy, Adams (S.Grimley, AMT)

    Am strongly considering to pi$$ petracca off and chose another rookie as Patracca may not be back until round 4 or 5 – Every season we trade cull a under preforming rookie to bring in a better Rookie – Could this be a wise move that may pay off. Think I most likely will NOT be starting with Patracca for this reason.

    However that being said I really like your side.

Deccas · 17/03/2016 at 13:44

Magnificent Jock cant split either Shiel or Gray at M4. Thoughts?

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 14:01

    Having exactly the same thought. Been big on gray since the beginning but watched sheils last two games and boy is he a smooth mover, so clean looks just like c Judd in his prime 3rd year and so think I am going with sheil.

      Carlashirley · 17/03/2016 at 14:06

      He is locked in my side should be top 3 highest scoring player in GWS and will be happy if he pumps out 109+ this year.

    jockreynolds · 17/03/2016 at 20:09

    Good man Deccas! I'd go Gray

Alex · 17/03/2016 at 13:55

Goldstein/M.Adams/Rook 117-123k
Nic Nat/Weithering/C.Menadue

    Alex · 17/03/2016 at 14:12

    Also if you could give me some suggestions to who that FWD rookie may be already have brown/tiputiwungu.

      greg · 17/03/2016 at 19:22

      hunt is 123K, id go option one personally

    Phil · 17/03/2016 at 20:37

    Option 1 with Papley (subject to selection). If not option 1 with anyone, even Kommer. Moral of the story, just get Goldy

JJB · 17/03/2016 at 14:00

Crowley v's Oliver (Crowley 4.5K cheaper ??

Crowley – more game time / mature body


    CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 14:13

    Crowley will be up down up down score wise and that prolongs cash generation. I really do not like these 200-250k selections much because if they cannot maintain a healthy scoring output of 65 -105 points and average say 80-85 after 6,7,8 games than not much cash to carve off the bone.

Andrew · 17/03/2016 at 14:07

Thanks in advance.

T.Greene-Priddis combo (This would mean Greene, Barlow, Hall)


D.Martin- M.Duncan combo

    Dan · 17/03/2016 at 14:21

    I would say Greene and Priddis. I feel dusty might be a bit up and down this year with personal problems. Not sold on Duncan either.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 14:27

    Duncan is a gun questions on dusty but will still b a top 6 fwd come year end he might drop a bit in price early.

Vinny · 17/03/2016 at 14:13

I have been waiting for this for a very long time! Yay!

CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 14:21

Salary of 15 mil can get that hahaha

Fotios · 17/03/2016 at 14:22

Nice work Jock!

Here is my team .. No Dusty, Pendles or Rockliff to begin with.

DEF: Shaw, Gibson, Sheridan, Weitering, Dea, M.Adams (Hartley, Ruggles)

MID: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Priddis, P.Cripps, Libba, Mills, B.Kennedy (R.Davis, Keays, Hewett)

RUCK: Goldy, Gawn (M.Cox)

FWD: Barlow, Buddy, A.Hall, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Menadue, Tipaungwuti)

    CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 14:27

    Thats a team i have not seen before that actually looks good at the same time. Well done!

      Fotios · 17/03/2016 at 15:59

      Cheers CarlaShirley! 🙂

    Hawker · 17/03/2016 at 17:59

    Very nice POD's in that mix, my only concern is Gibson who will be playing on the 2nd tall forward now Lake is gone which will drastically reduce his scoring output. Expect very inconsistent scores from him. Better options at that price

      Fotios · 18/03/2016 at 11:18

      Cheers Hawker! Who would you recommend instead of Gibson?

    WoodySpoon · 17/03/2016 at 21:15

    Just saw Buddy down the local AFL kids club training. He looks fit. Could be a great selection if the rain holds off for more of his games than not.

CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 14:33

Damn hard to put in rooks that are at that 170-210k range when its killing our premium selections on all lines.

Only selected one rookie at this price range but then i feel like the real cheap ones this year are mostly frail ones.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 15:05

    Yeah agree and the only 2 cheapies who looked like getting a game one busts his toe the other gets a broken jaw due to a crude bump. Silver lining though will b good downgrade options but just gotta find someone to kick off the season with.

      neil · 17/03/2016 at 16:51

      better playing 200 rooks than 123 vfl duties. Carla right Ihate putting parish mills oliver weit in but the others have no js .Good luck if you can find a miller yol cant remember his other name it was easy last year

      Holty · 17/03/2016 at 17:02

      agree. just need to find ones who will at least play those first 6 weeks. The last thing we want to be doing is trading after those first few rounds because they have been dropped

    Dean · 18/03/2016 at 21:01

    It does seem that way this season but do remember those high priced rookies Re: Weitering, Francis, Dea, Parish, Mills, Kennedy, Oliver, Crowley, Hopper, Hipwood, Milera, Ah Chee, Curren. then need to Average so much more in order to generate cash.

    I'm going in with Mills & maybe Dea the rest im just refusing to buy into coz they usually make you very little cash generation only one out of them will turn out to be 75% as good as Cripps or one might just end up being the next Cripps however the odds of you selecting that 1 out of 13 odd is very risky.

    However I know exactly were your coming from.

HallyM8 · 17/03/2016 at 14:43

Which 2 of Sam Gray, Aaron Hall and Toby Greene?

    JDP · 17/03/2016 at 15:09

    First 2. More mid time.

      HallyM8 · 17/03/2016 at 15:31

      You don't think Greene will get more mid time with treloar gone? Also the only proven option having averaged 100+ in 2014

        Sarah · 17/03/2016 at 15:56

        Most likely a half forward role with rotations through the midfield, similar to last season. GWS have ridiculous midfield depth, Greene should get more mid time but not a significant increase.

    Blues_16 · 17/03/2016 at 18:18

    I think it depends on who you see as a keeper or a cash generator. If you are talking about reliable scores and top 10 forwards I think Greene is best option, Gray 2nd, Hall 3rd. IMO Greene is the only one with a chance of being a keeper.

    Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:11

    none will be top 10, therefore not keepers. Which will make more cash, probably the cheapist.

      Steeeve · 17/03/2016 at 23:31

      I think one of the three will finish top 10, just need to decide which one! I've got Hall at the moment. He could cement himself in the guts leaving Swallow and OMeara rotating off flanks when they come back. Gray will start well but can't see him getting much midfield time. Greene is a total wildcard, I'm not playing it.

Marc · 17/03/2016 at 15:05

thoughts on my current lineup appreciated –

DEF – Laird, KK, Docherty, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Adams)
MID – Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Rockliff, Libba, M Crouch, Mills, B Kennedy (Menadue, Gore, Davis)
RUCKS – Nic Nat, Gawn (cox)
FWD – Barlow, Z Merrett, Greene, A Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Grimley, McDonald-Tipu)


    wombatsfc · 17/03/2016 at 17:35

    Great team Marc I'll be suprised if you don't win.

JDP · 17/03/2016 at 15:07

Thoughts on McGovern v Rich??

    4rm · 17/03/2016 at 22:52

    McGov for me, reads the ball well and will take contested marks in defence. Can swing up forward and kick a goal or 3. His form last year was injury affected with his shoulder and still scored well. Rich seems to always promise but has failed to deliver. Rich may prove me wrong and has found it tough coming back from a serious injury, but was he ever that good?

Nypsies · 17/03/2016 at 15:07

What are everyones thoughts on Treloar???

Dan · 17/03/2016 at 15:09

Have a squiz at my team ladies and gents, tell me what you think.




BARLOW, S. GRAY, HALL, WELLS, B. KENNEDY, KERRIDGE, Petracca, McDonald-Tipungwuti

I feel comfortable with my POD's and similarly to the humble Higgo, I have my POD being also my lack of selections. I feel Fyfe is too expensive and won't play 22 rounds, he will also have a kip up forward every now and again. $650k for a Lyon coached player, even a champion is just too much for me, I'd love him though. I just feel he may be top 10 Avg, and maybe even overall too, but is not worth the money. I am also a little wary of Pendlebury in a chockers Collingwood midfield. Don't get me wrong, I want him, but I think he is overs. Wines and Gray are somewhat risky PODs to pick for keeper status but I feel not selecting Libba allows me to avoid a sideways trade and allow me to downgrade one or possibly paint the fence if both flop. I can't see that happening this year, Port will be hungry and they will drive each other to perform. I think Gray will go ultra premium this year. I think for the same mark, Hannerbery, Mundy and JPK etc are all overpriced and risky (with the exception of maybe Priddis, but he handballs too much), and at the very least, I can see Wines averaging similar to the likes of JPK who will also get rested up front. Wines is a contested angry bull, he sees the red pill and is hungry for it. He gets cleaner every year. There has been little talk of the new sub rotation rules. I feel Port Adelaide players are pretty suited to a lack of rotation to complemet their decent draw. The same can be said about the price for the ilk of top defenders and forwards as with midfields, with the exclusion of Shaw. I think there are more solid options, even if they are starting F2 or 3 they may end up F6 however it is most economical to pick them up now rather than later. I would consider Hall an example of a likely keeper, that may be down one or two spots higher in peoples forward structures come the end of season. The only other exception I feel is Zorko. Especially without Beams to run amuck. I feel points are being wasted starting with him though, like I said, why not start the likes of Sam Gray at F2 instead of F3 with designs to bring Zorko in early, or when he's cheaper, when he's actually playing. I haven't selected Bartel because he will get rested in a competitive Geelong, and if he doesn't he will injure himself, or run around buggered playing lazy footy, dropping his DE and pill count. I have chosen Suckling over the likes of JJ, KK and Rich, who many are running with at D3/4. He will switch roles a lot but I am not concerned. I think a freshly rebuilt, fairly young WBD side will suit him strongly and he may get a bit more freedom to kick that deadly left. I think he's good for efficiency, score and score involvement as well as the intercept mark and tackle, I can't see him being tagged much either if I am honest, not can I see him in a key defensive role. At 396k I think he will make a fine D6. I'm not overly concerned about Yarren impacting Houli's scoring. I looked at him closely last year and think he's priced right. Dea is a lock, as is Weit but I haven't gone him because of his price. I think 220k is a lot to fork out for a débutante, even if he was a fancy draft pick. The kid can and will play, just over priced for the risk for mine. Crouch and Sam Gray are my biggest risks. I feel both have potential to be keepers at the bottom end of their respective lines. Gray is a gun and will continue his form from the back half of last year and the NAB into the season proper. He might drop off and I don't expect NAB like performance every week, but I think he will be a top FWD this year. Crouch is also a gun and he is going to thrive without danger mouse hogging the possessions. I think he is a more likely keeper than Libba who will likely be managed or will personally take it easy recovering from an ACL. My final POD selection/lack of selection is, Naitanui/Goldy. Goldstein will be number 1 ruckman most likely. However, I can see Nic Nat outdoing the likes of Sauce and Martin and challenging Goldy for that spot. He is a freak. I feel he is underpriced and Goldy is overpriced. Remember guys, 600k players are safer picks then 500k or midprice picks, but they're human beings, they get injured, have slumps, get rested. Goldstein is just too expensive. The same goes for Lids and Fyfe etc. Last but not least is a lack of Dusty Martin. He will have a mental health struggle niggling at him. Everybody has different coping strategies. Some people rise above adversity and others succumb to it. I want to wait and see, especially after his NAB form. Feel I can pick him up cheaper if he is in fact a keeper this year as with the rest of notable absentees such as Fyfe etc. Thoughts community?

Cheers, Dan

    Keenbutclueless · 17/03/2016 at 15:43

    Brilliantly thought out strategy for a team. Well done! The only thing that I would question is having three Port midfielders. Are you not competing against yourself a bit? For S Gray to get points, you would think he would have to take points off someone else. Given his emergence lady year was in Wines absence, are you completely convinced they are not fighting for the same points? Or are you thinking Ebert and Boak will fall? Also, what effect will Polec have on S Gray points?

      Dan · 17/03/2016 at 16:08

      I think Hinkley will look for run a lot, especially with the capped rotation. I'm not overly concerned about Ebert taking possessions or midfield time. I just think this year, people are panicking about midfield time a lot with more cheaper players, but are forgetting the new rotation rules will mean a lot of 600k players might get rested up front. This means more midfield time for everybody else. I think Port will look to compete for a spot in the top four and would be bitterly disappointed to not make the 8. I feel Boak might get a rest every now and again, as with R Gray. Regardless I think S Gray is in front of Ah Chee for mid time, and may establish himself in front of the likes of Polec. No doubt he will play across half forward and maybe up in the pockets too a lot, but I think Hinkley will love him and the fresh legs in the middle. Some one said he is reminiscent of R Gray before he broke out and established himself as a midfield monolith. I'm not sure S Gray can live up to that, but I think this year he's good for a few sausage rolls and will collect his own pill in the middle. Not concerned too much with Polec etc because those guys don't collect the pill themselves as much and seem to line up outside the square, rather than in the middle. I have considered the likes of Priddis, Cripps and Greene as possible non PA players. I am happy to have Gray and Wines in the middle too. Out of all the options I have considered for their respective spot in my structures, I keep coming back to all three port players as my preferred. Regardless what team they are in I am comfortable they can share the points and get to top 10 status. Deledio and Martin are prime examples of two top tier players in the same line. I know their roles differ but it just goes to show.

        Sarah · 17/03/2016 at 18:48

        Ah Chee is definitely in front of Sam Gray. Port need another big bodies midfielder not a midget!

          Dan · 17/03/2016 at 19:41

          I reckon Boak and Thighs got that covered and I still back Sam to come up field a bit if he's half forward and get his own ball, even if he loses out on midfield time.

            Jye · 18/03/2016 at 09:47

            Yeah he'll play mainly forward I reckon mate and pinch hit in the midfield. During NAB boaky and Robbie were getting eased into it and didn't play heaps in the middle. Still a good option but plenty ahead of him to play midfield

              Dan · 18/03/2016 at 12:36

              No doubt, I reckon he's still good enough without heaps of mid time to accumulate points anyway though.

        Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 23:46

        OMG Dan…..are you writing a book?

      Dean · 18/03/2016 at 23:31

      NOW thats what I call a bloody thesis, i kept reading the same lines and less then half way I just gave up.

      However saying that nice write up and thanks for sharing your well in depth thoughtssssssssssssssssssssssssss, however I don't like your selection of having 3 possible Port keepers. I also think Hewett will struggle to make swans top 22 and when your paying such a high price for a rookie that will hurt.

      I also don't understand how you can spend $600+k on Shaw in defence yet you don't want to spend it on Fyfe, Pendles, Priddis and the likes where that is where all the points come from. I personally believe you're reading to much into the less rotation rule and it is going to cause you to play catch up which never works if your aim is to WIN 50k albeit a 200,000 to 1 chance.

      However good luck mate.

    Holty · 17/03/2016 at 17:19

    this seems to be a very well thought out side and like how you have backed it up with your reasoning. no point really giving much of a opinion as you have answered most of them already. Will ask one though.
    * Why do you think Bartel will be rested? Have you decided this personally or just listening to what everyone else is saying?

      Dan · 17/03/2016 at 17:46

      I think he will be nurtured for finals. He's old, not as aerobically capable as the younger players perhaps, and definitely more susceptible to injury. Geelong are looking to make a mark this year, they need Bartel to be right for late in the season and finals. If I started him I would be very happy with him playing 18+ games. He might well do, just think he's risky for mine.

        Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:09

        they need Bartel to get to the finals. geelong is about 6-8th side.

          Dan · 17/03/2016 at 19:15

          Yeah so I don't expect him to trot out against the likes of Carlton and Essendon etc.

    wombatsfc · 17/03/2016 at 17:36

    Great team Dan I'll be suprised if you don't win.

    Blues_16 · 17/03/2016 at 18:56

    Awesome explanation mate and I think you have described what makes this year so tough.
    Your backs look strong and won't need much upgrading with 3 keepers (hopefully).
    IMO though, I think you only have a maximum of 10 keepers overall.
    You say you are concerned about how they manage the return of Libba, and rule out Martin and Wells for similar "management" reasons.
    You don't seem to have the same concerns about how they manage GAJ, Rocky and Crouch?? I certainly do!
    I also want Petracca but he is also coming off an injury and won't play till round 3. Do we keep him in for loophole value (I think I will) as we don't want downgrade targets at R3 or 4?
    I also agree with R Gray and NicNat, I think they both go superpremo this year.
    Good luck this year, great to see your thoughts

      Dan · 17/03/2016 at 19:08

      I don't think Martin will get managed, his dad will be on his mind is what concerns me. Gary is a lock no matter how many games he plays, the risk in not selecting him would be insane. The same goes for Rocky, and hes even cheaper. The other options i woukd consider at his price would be Parker or Shiel, maybe Ward. He's tbe only proven one among them. Fyfe is a different story because of his price. I heard that about Petracca but I think his job security overall looks better than most other rd 1 contenders not in my side at the present.
      Like I said, Crouch is probably one of the more prominent risks. He's too good to turn up at $300k though, especially minus Dangerfield, I think this will only let the man shine. Not too concerned I haven't seen him play NAB. Think I heard he was training well on here somewhere. He's at the very least a stepping stone to a fallen premo come bye time. Thanks for your thoughts too mate, appreciated.

        Blues_16 · 17/03/2016 at 19:38

        Good luck mate

    Phil · 17/03/2016 at 20:47

    Good write up but you lost me when you said you're picking Suckling instead of Bartel. I reckon Bartel is better value for money than Suckling despite being more expensive. Time will tell, but I reckon Suckling is a little overrated and has benefitted from being in such a successful team. Bartels a Brownlow medalist

      Dan · 17/03/2016 at 21:27

      I didn't, I picked him over JJ and Sheridan and Rich, Hurn etc. I have Laird D3, most people have Bartel there. He's a champion, I think his injury and management risk is too much to pick for a keeper.

    @footy_bec · 18/03/2016 at 18:29

    I like your team.. I think your biggest risk is having 4 midfielders coming off injuries. With the exception of Ablett who is a superfreak, I think the likes of Crouch who has not played in the AFL for a long time, SANFL doesn't count is a risk. Even Wines is taking some time to readjust with severe cramping against Richmond and he's got a few games under his belt. Rockcliff is still under an injury cloud too. Just some thoughts to add to yours.

      Dan · 18/03/2016 at 18:46

      Yeah I am a bit worried, but I feel most people will be starting all or most out of GAJ, Rockliff and/or Libba, and I've seen Wines making his way into more and more teams too. Safety in numbers I feel.

Dice · 17/03/2016 at 15:12

Who will score more Naitanui or Gawn?

    Keenbutclueless · 17/03/2016 at 15:32

    If you are looking at total points, then I see it as Natanui 20 games x 105 = 2100. Assume Grimley for 2 games x 40. Total 2180. Gawn a little less reliable, but higher scoring. Say 18 games x 110 = 1980 Plus Grimley 4 x 40 = 2160. So, maybe Jacobs 22 x 100 = 2200 is the best value. If you can get better cover than Grimley, say a Tippett or Sinclair in the back half of the season, maybe these numbers change a little.

Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 15:58

Shiel or Rockliff?

    Keenbutclueless · 17/03/2016 at 16:06

    Potential versus Proven. Both had injury concerns last year, but Rockliff persistent niggles starting to sow seeds of doubt. Will Shiel benefit from Treloar missing, or will he attract more attention? Beams missing help Rocky? Maybe yes if fit. Can see the case for both, but I am inclined towards Rockliff

    Redgumwon · 18/03/2016 at 13:03

    I'm having serious doubts on Rocky and his fitness. I can see him playing up forward more. As he's played no NAB Challenge games and his match fitness isn't there as yet. Then when Beams comes back I can still see Rocky spending more of his time forward rather than in the midfield.

    Shiel I thought was racking up the numbers last year before injury. I can see him really having a break out year this year and to continue to pump out the big scores. For that reason I've gone with Shiel ahead of Rocky.

rick · 17/03/2016 at 16:02

shaw, houli, laird, sheridan, dea, hartely (Adams & McDonald-Tipungwuti)
fyfe, danger, gaj, rocky, libba, mills parish, kerridge (gore, petracca, davis)
martin, gawn (korchek)
dusty, barlow, hall, menzel, wells, milera (kennedy, m brown)

    wombatsfc · 17/03/2016 at 17:37

    Great team Rick I'll be suprised if you don't win.

      Blues_16 · 17/03/2016 at 19:04

      Gold Wombat, think you've picked the top 500 already 🙂

SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 16:05

As Jock alluded to on his cheat sheet Rocky did the ole proverbial and trained the house down today.

So for those of you who were getting cold feet and toying with the idea of skipping out on him this season I reckon you should pump those brakes.

He's one of the few guys in the comp who can truly burn you for NOT picking him with his humongous ceiling.

    The Ranger · 17/03/2016 at 17:08

    He's been in and out of my M5 about ten times this week already!
    He burnt me pretty bad last year SC……it's hard to go back to the flame!

      The Ranger · 17/03/2016 at 17:26

      …but then I look at OldOckers spreadsheet and see those numbers again….

        Holty · 17/03/2016 at 17:32

        Hi Ranger
        What is this spreadsheet?

    Holty · 17/03/2016 at 17:27

    this is true. ill be starting him myself. I guess the other argument is he was reported to be training the house down a bit over a week ago but pulled out of the last NAB game due to a tight hammy. If he was 600k, i wouldnt be starting him over the likes of Priddis and JPK due to the injury concerns.

      SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 17:46

      Gaz has me a little more concerned Holty.

      Still yet to return to full training with the main group with the bung toe but the Rocksta is locked and loaded in Addicts!

        Blues_16 · 17/03/2016 at 19:08

        Neither for me, lots of value this year and no need to take risks on injury management… just our standard guesses/gambles.

          SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 23:12

          But you need to appreciate that not picking players like Rocky and Gaz is taking a gamble too, albeit of a different kind, as they can really burn you when they are on song and your league opponents are reaping monstrous captain scores that you aren't.

          So I reckon it's fallacious reasoning to think you are necessarily reducing your risk levels by not picking them. You better hope they do collapse in a heap, or you will very likely pay a steep price if they don't, as a lot coaches will have them and your ranking could quickly spiral down the loo!

          It's a risk either way you go I'm afraid which is what is keeping me up late at night right now. These are just the sorts of decisions that can decide your fate early in a Supercoach season 😉

            The Ranger · 18/03/2016 at 10:14

            One risk I can live with but two is pushing it so at the moment Gaz is in and Rockliff is out.
            Of course that could change by the time the first game comes around!

Luke · 17/03/2016 at 16:18

Which two players should I get to go alongside barlow at F1, out of

Robinson and Sinclair
Greene and Hall?

    Norgy · 17/03/2016 at 16:38

    Greene and Hall

    Grahame Lebroy · 17/03/2016 at 16:40

    Robinson and Hall

    rosco72 · 17/03/2016 at 18:01

    Robbo and Hall

Tom McV · 17/03/2016 at 16:36

Def- R.Laird, J.Gibson, J.Bartel, J.Weitering, M.Dea, M.Hartley (M.Brown, T.Ruggles)

Mid- P.Dangerfield, G.Ablett, A.Gaff, T.Rockliff, O.Wines, J.Viney, T.Liberatore, C.Mills (D.Gore, R.Davis, D.McPherson)

Ruck- S.Jacobs, M.Gawn (C.Loersch)

Fwd- D.Martin, M.Barlow, A.Hall, D.Wells, S.Kerridge, C.Petracca (L.McCarthy, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti)

$5300 in bank

VEX · 17/03/2016 at 16:36

thoughts on Tom Cutler?

    Derek · 17/03/2016 at 16:52

    i have been thinking about him alot, he just doesn't make the team on account he won't be a keeper and won't make as much cash as dea.

    i read an article back in january about how he might be the goto man when it comes to running the ball out of defence as he such a good long kick.

      VEX · 17/03/2016 at 16:54

      I think him and Ryan Harwood could be really good picks this year. Both have high potential.

LHMORWOOD · 17/03/2016 at 16:42

$117, 000 left. any thoughts of what should change or be added?

Shaw. Laird. Johannisen.
Weitering. Dea. Byrne-Jones
(Brown (Ess) & Hartley

Fyfe. Dangerfield. Ablett.
Rockliff. Liberatore. Mills.
Kennedy. (Melb) Menadue.
(Gresham. Hewett and Davis)

Goldstein. Gawn.

Martin. Barlow. Hall.
DeGoey. Wells. Kerridge.
(McCarthy & McDT)

    Keenbutclueless · 17/03/2016 at 17:04

    You look like you have 10/11 genuine keepers 4/5 midpricers and 7 rookies on field. Libba the floater. There are no rules, but conventional wisdom says minimum of 12 keepers. So possibly you are one short. In my opinion I would look to get De Goey up to a keeper.

      LHMORWOOD · 17/03/2016 at 17:19

      I feel that De Goey will be a good POD up forward. I believe its my midfield that might be a bit too weak.

    Dan · 17/03/2016 at 19:45

    Downgrade De Goey to a rook and upgrade Weitering to a keeper.

@noahcavanagh · 17/03/2016 at 16:45

Def- Houli, Liard, Johansien, Sherdian, Weitering, Dea (hartley, Brown)
Mid- Fyfe, Danger, Gaz, Rockliff, Liberator, B.Crouch, Mills, Kerridge (Menadue, Gresham, Mathieson)
Ruck- Martin, Gawn(Wyatt)
Fwd- Barlow, Gray, Hall, De Goey, Wells, Milera(McCarthy, Tippa)
Mathieson probs end up as davis or someone else currently unsure

    Keenbutclueless · 17/03/2016 at 17:08

    Rock solid. S Gray and Hall at F2 and F3 carry some risk. But probably a risk worth taking

Nick · 17/03/2016 at 16:46

Best mid price option out of graham, Matt crouch, Brad crouch and de goey

    Derek · 17/03/2016 at 16:49

    only one i would consider is brad.

      SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 18:57

      Yes Matty has 'February Flyer' written all over him I reckon although Jock appears sold.

      I intend to roll the dice on Brad if named.

      Also kind of partial to De Goey who's been in and out of my side but I no longer can accommodate him.

    Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 16:55

    Brad Crouch

Ren · 17/03/2016 at 16:46

Houli and Gresham


Lonergan and Crouch

    Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 16:55

    Houli and Gresham.

Rob · 17/03/2016 at 16:49

Thoughts on my team.

BACK: Houli, KK, Johannisen, WEitering, Dea, Bonner ( Hartley, Ruggles)

MID: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rockliff, Cripps, Libba, Mills, Gresham ( Gore, Petracca, MacPherson)

RUCK: Martin, Smith ( Grimley)

FWD: Lids, Barlow, Franklin, Hall, Wells, Kerridge ( Brown, Galluci)

I have 7K left over any suggestions will be helpful.

    wombatsfc · 17/03/2016 at 17:32

    Great team Rob I'll be suprised if you don't win.

    Dan · 17/03/2016 at 19:47

    Maybe scrap Franklin or Lids and invest in your back line.

Aaron · 17/03/2016 at 16:53

Fyfe or Danger

    Grahame Lebroy · 17/03/2016 at 18:26

    On form Danger

    Paul · 17/03/2016 at 18:28

    That's a win/win there. Fyfe less popular this year, make of that what you will.

    Dan · 17/03/2016 at 19:47


Pavos · 17/03/2016 at 16:55

Nic Nat/Weithering

Really need help community

    Keenbutclueless · 17/03/2016 at 17:11

    Depends on your plans for the 80k you save on option 2

    Blues_16 · 17/03/2016 at 19:23

    Highlights how hard this year is… I have all 4 – great set/forget rucks, 2 great cash generators in terms of JS

Tret · 17/03/2016 at 17:10

Deledio or Dusty?

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 17:42


    Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 18:21


      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 22:36


Sam · 17/03/2016 at 17:14

Great work as always Jock.
Looking for some thoughts and comments of any type on version 2000 of my squad.
DEF: H.Shaw, R.Laird, J.Weitering, M.Dea, M.Brown, M.Adams (C.Adamson, T.Ruggles)

MID: N.Fyfe, P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, G.Ablett, T.Rockliff, T.Liberatore, C.Mills, B.Kennedy (C.Petracca, J.Dunkley, R.Davis)

RUCK: T.Goldstein, Z.Smith (S.Grimley)

FOR: M.Barlow, K.Tippet, S.Gray, A.Hall, D.Wells, C.Menadue (S.Kerridge, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti)

hedski · 17/03/2016 at 17:21

Really struggling to pick between Wines and Duncan. Duncan probably a bit more of a POD.
Any ideas?

    Grahame Lebroy · 17/03/2016 at 18:27

    I'd go Wines Hedski, just think he could score bigger and he loves contested footy

    Paul · 17/03/2016 at 18:30

    Duncan is a star….genuine elite midfielder.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 20:53

      Agree been fairly keen all year but couldn't squeeze him in but a rejig and he is now in my team. Was running priddus and ben kennedy at m8 but now running duncan and b crouch. Think dunc is gonna have a huge year.

    hedski · 17/03/2016 at 21:33

    Cheers guys. Duncs will go off with a bit more grunt in the mids I think. Elite kick. Love Ollie but to tough for he's own good. Either way they're good picks.

Phillip · 17/03/2016 at 17:22

Do I choose Menadue and approx 50k or Oliver?

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 17:39


richie · 17/03/2016 at 17:31

Would love someone to rate my team!

DEF: A. Rance, KK, B. Smith, J. Weitering, M. Dea, (M. Hartley, K. Collins)

MID: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, G. Ablett, R. Gray, T. Rockliff, Libba, C. Mills, C. Menadue (C. Petracca, B. Keays, R. Davis)

RUCK: T. Goldstein, NicNat

FWD: D. Martin, M. Barlow, A. Hall, B. Kennedy, S. Kerridge (M.Mcgovern, Tippa)

This is what im rocking atm (rookies subject to change until rd 1 teams are announced). everything is pretty settled but considering swapping out dea for a bottom price rookie thats named rd 1 ( eg broad/ruggles) and then bringing in pendles for robbie gray, and laird for KK. Would love to hear which team would be better

Feel like this is the year to pick up as many super premos in the mids with the lack of bottom price mid cash cows, but pretty reliable cash cows in both def and fwd lines

    Kev · 17/03/2016 at 17:59

    Reckon you could get away with dropping Dea, Richie. Your D1-5 all have good js imo

    BigBoyMcevoy · 17/03/2016 at 21:15

    I reckon you could adjust some of your rookies especially petracca as the rest of the squad is solid

Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 17:42

Is a Steele a good option as F3?

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 18:32

    I think he could be but I would still favour De Goey at that price point. Although reckon either would be more ideally situated at F4 with Wells at F5 but I guess you could get it to work at F3 if you had to.

    Btw are you any relation to Itchy Nuts Pieman?

      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 18:38

      Ok thanks mate. No relation

      Blues_16 · 17/03/2016 at 19:27

      Agree, no higher than F4

@emhoy · 17/03/2016 at 17:42

No Broad he played every nab cup game and with the tigers injuries surley is a lock

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 18:50

    I like him too emhoy and actually have him on my field right now but there are only so many names you can squeeze into a quick little cheat sheet.

Krups · 17/03/2016 at 17:53

Going for a risky POD: J Selwood

    Fourbells · 17/03/2016 at 18:45

    Thinking the same. Smashed it the other year without any pre season. Will ton up against the hawks

      Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:04

      can you have both danger & Selwood?

      Selwood is having a run with the VFL team tomorrow, lets see how he goes.

        Krups · 17/03/2016 at 20:11

        I will be having both

    Holty · 18/03/2016 at 08:24

    not sure how Selwood is risky but surprisingly he will be a POD this year. and a very good one at that.

KKP · 17/03/2016 at 17:54

Rich, McGuv or Jimmy as D3?

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 17:55


    Krups · 17/03/2016 at 17:57


    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 18:52

    Bartel is worth the extra coin I feel, even if he's the forgotten man around these parts.

    Southern S · 20/03/2016 at 17:24

    McGuv, Bartel, Rich in that order.

The Mountian · 17/03/2016 at 18:04

Looking at my completed team hopefully (rookies subject to change until rd 1 teams are announced).

DEF: Shaw, Laird, JJ, J. Weitering, M. Dea, M. Hartley (Brown, Broad)

MID: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, G. Ablett, J.Steven, T. Rockliff, Libba, C. Mills, Gresham (C. Petracca, G.Hewett, R. Davis)

RUCK: T. Goldstein, Martin (Chol)

FWD: M. Barlow, Green, A. Hall, Wells, B. Kennedy, S. Kerridge (Grimley, Tippa)

    Leighroy · 17/03/2016 at 18:53

    Wow nearly the same as my team 22 common players

    Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 19:09

    I really liked the previous team you posted Mountain. You have swayed toward the mid pricer.

      The Mountain · 17/03/2016 at 19:31

      Which Team mate and which post was it under

        Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 19:48

        Can't remember for sure mate. About a week ago. Was very guns and rookies.

          Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 19:50

          BVC team reveal. Still love that team.

            The Mountain · 17/03/2016 at 20:27

            Yeah me to mate, but i felt i need to get some stronger rookies down back in weitering and dea so i had to cut pendles to steven and martin to greene

              Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 20:30

              yeah, the cheap rookies don't fill me with confidence either.
              Your team still looks really good and maybe a bit more rounded.
              Best of luck mate.

                The Mountain · 17/03/2016 at 20:46

                Cheers mate

Vinny · 17/03/2016 at 18:05

Is it a bad option to choose H.Bennell over D.Martin?

    Grahame Lebroy · 17/03/2016 at 18:32

    I don't think Dusty is as 'done and dusted ' as people have been saying due to his father's problems. He should outscore Bennell this year

    Sarah · 17/03/2016 at 18:36

    I'd rather Bennell as an upgrade target, not to start with. Would rather wait n see how he goes in Freo, big change from GC.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 20:57

      I'm with u sarah think he will b one if the top fwds but wanna see some games out of him b4 locking him in.

    Phil · 17/03/2016 at 21:03

    I reckon both are upgrades. Both have question marks. If I'm paying 550k+ for a forward (or defender) I don't want question marks.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 21:30

    Ross the boss just confirmed bennell wont b playing rd 1 will be in the magoos.

Tret · 17/03/2016 at 18:16

so have people written of Brodie Smith?

Had problems the first 2 NAB games but fired well in the last

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 18:39

    He should still be a reasonably popular selection although he doesn't particularly interest me given the emergence of Laird over the past 12 months.

    To be fair all the guys we're picking at D3 or D4 have some sort of significant question mark hovering over them, so from that respect I guess he's as good as any other of the popular picks. But I'm saving the cash there having settled on McKenzie for my own squad.

    Chill · 17/03/2016 at 18:49

    in out in out. He's out at the moment but that could change. Such a tempting price.

      Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:02

      the price is good. Is Laird $90k better than Smith? Thats about 20SC per week.

        Chill · 17/03/2016 at 19:53

        Nup. I think It's KK or Smith. They are who i have whittled down to.

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 20:59

        I think laird is better than smith and will easily outscore him. Laird in, smith no.

    Holty · 18/03/2016 at 08:08

    Smith has lost his role where he has scored well in tbe past to Laird. He was concussed twice (i think) last year. once this starts happening, your chin is never the same. All he needs is another good bump and unfortunately i see him having a rest again. Its unfortunate as he was All Australian 2 years ago but i see him more as a liability.

    Dice · 18/03/2016 at 10:29

    One of my first picks Brodie Smith. I don't think we can write him off yet he's still young.
    Fingers crossed he's all over last years injuries and interruptions.

    I'm tossing up whether to have both Smith and Laird. It could wreck my year, or could put me right up there.
    God i'm hoping they both play half back rotating on the ball

VEX · 17/03/2016 at 18:19

What are people doing with Sam Grimley? He'll play but wont score well with the lack of ball coming his end.

Is he worth it at f8?

he'd be less risky at R3 but then we miss out on the loophole. What do we think?

    Chill · 17/03/2016 at 20:04

    Yeah I have jumped off that bandwagon. King at r3 and more reliable cashcows on the bench in the fwd line. Grimley is playing for a shocking team in an ordinary position. Avoid.

    gaz · 17/03/2016 at 20:11

    Im in the same boat with you… what to do?

      Jeff · 17/03/2016 at 20:31


    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 21:02

    Posed the same question but not a great deal of fwd cheap rookies putting up their hand.

    Phil · 17/03/2016 at 21:06

    I'm still picking him as I don't think Essedon are as bad as what others think. A lot of teams will be smashed by West Coast over there this year. R3 for me

    Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 21:07

    I think he may actually lose money.

Wattsieesq · 17/03/2016 at 18:29

Hey community. I need some advice.

Do I go Libba and McGovern (WCE) or Houli and Oliver? I'm leaning towards Houli and Oliver because I am more a G&R type structure and I don't think Libba will be a top 10 mid and I think Houli will be a top 6 defender. What to others think?



    CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:08

    Yeah but Libba is a win win mate

    1 He is a solid stepping stone with serious scoring to boot
    2 He could be a 9-15 rank mid and at M8 late in the season you trade him bye round or later for finals

      CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:12

      What I mean is Libba will generate 150k at least and fast as shite you know what I mean?

        Wattsieesq · 17/03/2016 at 20:48

        Yeah, I understand. I was just thinking from a trades point of view. Libba has been in my side (and everyone elses it seems) side day one. I'm just thinking of structures as I never go with mid pricers especially in the mid field. I had Libba all season in 2014 and he was great for me. I'm just worried about structures. Thanks for the input.


        Phil · 17/03/2016 at 21:09

        Trying to steal someone's identity doesn't quite work when you're avatar is different.

    Jamie · 18/03/2016 at 13:00

    Every man and his dog will start with libba this season.
    Are you prepared to fall behind from the pack if he starts to punch out scores around 100 as a mid pricer?
    He will make 150k and he will produce an avg of around 100 (can be a keeper at m8 or m9)
    Adjust your structures (surely not a big change) to put in libba.

Scyb · 17/03/2016 at 18:32

B: Shaw, KK, Johannisen, Weitering, Dea, Brown (M.Hartley, Ruggles)

M: Gaz, Priddis, Ward, Rocky, Parker, Wines, Libba, Mills (Cunningham, Keays, Davis)

R: Nic Nat, Gawn (Grimley)

F: Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (Petracca, Mcdonald-Tip)

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated 🙂

Chill · 17/03/2016 at 18:53

No Milera?

CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:02

SCaddict has got me thinking twice about the Wells selection think he is 240k mark right?
I have not put him in my team because I do not see much cash to be made off him.

I do believe he can average 80-90 all year if he stays fit of course. Cannot see him at any stage averaging over 90 points though. Though people will contest my view on this 🙂

Would 85+ average be the bench mark you all expect or want from him after say 7 rounds?
And what if it is only 70-80 average after 7 rounds? What then?

So what I mean is lets say he has an average of 80 after 7 rounds to be more realistic, can anyone tell us what his price would be then?

    Sarah · 17/03/2016 at 19:11

    This is the best Wells looked in years! I predict he'll average 85 at the worst with 90+ upside. Just hope his body holds up.

    Sarah · 17/03/2016 at 19:12

    Him and Kerridge are must have forwards.

      CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:18

      ok so it sounds like we want high 80's as the bench mark and we believe he can do it hmmmm
      Haha I am considering it, is he getting the nod in midfield?

    ThatDamnRascal · 17/03/2016 at 19:15

    I see Wells as a stepping stone to get a premium in. He's looked bloody good in the NAB and at 240k with the potential to hit 100+ it's your choice

      CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:24

      100+ is a dream
      Would be surprised if he reaches low to mid 90's but not 100+
      Yes looked good in NAB, then you compared to the real deal.

      Just wondering what cash he will generate and how quick is all

        ThatDamnRascal · 17/03/2016 at 19:39

        Let's say conservatively he averages 80 over the first 6 games he's going to make around $90k by the bye rounds if he continues on that avg he'll have made you $140k there abouts and unless his avg improves he won't earn you much more than that. With the scope to improve on that avg and considering his nab scores he could make more.

        The one big concern, which is mine as well, is will his body hold up? Really you only need to get him to bye rounds

        Hope that info is helpful

          CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:49

          yeah agree i think we all want to make at least 150k from him 200k if possible
          Thank you for your thoughts. You all have persuaded me to make room for him because sounds like his ceiling is 85-95 after 7-8 rounds that's some serious money and points I miss out on if I do not select him.

    Kev · 17/03/2016 at 19:21

    Average of 80 over the first 7 rounds puts him just under 350k

      CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:28

      Thank you Kev that is a good amount of coin 100k for my bare minimum that I see him averaging.

      80-90 is his range

      Kev what is his price at 90 average over 7 games?

        Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:31

        you only have to look at Norf draw and he is in your team. After round 9 their games get much harder, hopefully he has done his job by then

          CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:33

          Ok I'm sold lol but I will become an alcoholic if he burns me haha

      Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:38

      he should actually be a little better than that. if he can average 80 evenly he should be around $405k by round 8.

        CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:43

        Well Wells Will Want to generate 150k minimum for us so hope he does Derek
        Think others see him generating 200k then take the money

    jockreynolds · 17/03/2016 at 20:15

    Wondeful thought provokative post Carla! Bloody wonderful mate. I see the majesty of the Wells selection as a) cash generation and b) that 0.18 chance he'll end up being a keeper AND c) cash generation while providing on-ground-worthy scoring. In my team but – as you're hinting at – not the absolute no brainer lock many are considering him to be

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 21:09

    That much talent and scoring potential at $240k is a steal. Most people are going mills and hoping for 75-80 avg from a kid priced at $210k. For a few $ more you can get a seasoned guy who will avg minimum 85 but should frequently push into the 90's. Looks fit and hungry. Locked in my side along with kerridge.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 21:15

      Upgrade once he has done his job

Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 19:26

What are peoples thoughts on Milera and B. Kennedy? I'm leaning towards Milera.

    Derek · 17/03/2016 at 19:28

    Crows have one of the toughest draws to start the season. Milera will play forward.

      CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:32

      Derek Crows have so much fwd depth I doubt he will be there much reckon his skills are wasted up there
      Crows need some silky movement going into the fwd line not in it 🙂

        Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 19:34

        Ok Thank You Ladies and Gents!

          Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 19:46

          Does Charlie Cameron now being in the selection mix for round 1 change anybody's opinion of Milera?

            CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:57

            can only wait till round one teams are up but if Milera is in best 22 with Cameron Betts and Menzel on field you can bet Milera will be all around the ground getting silky lol that is what we want from a pricey rookie anyway just hope he plays 7-8 games before the byes, this guy can score well enough.

            Players like Dean Gore and Paul Seedsman are just as shady as to what the Crows think their best 22 is, this year is the testing ground for them and if Milera has 2 or 3 magic games early he is in all year I reckon

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 19:39

    Both look fine picks and both have impressed with close to a 1.0 ppm average in the NAB.

    Body maturity of Kennedy gives him the edge for many along with his DPP bonus but you could really legitimately go either way on this one.

      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 20:42

      Well you 2 aren't making it easy! lol

        Holty · 18/03/2016 at 08:45

        Kennedy. Mature and will play time in the mids.
        Milera is skillful but have heard he does not have a big engine. might play on that half forward flank. He has scored well because of his silky skills (using the ball well) without getting much of the ball. When the real thing starts, he wont get as much of it and will be under far more pressure then in the NAB. Plus Adelaides first 8 games dont get harder.

Yes I'm serious · 17/03/2016 at 19:31

I've decided to throw caution to the wind and just go with a very risky, very high amount of mid-pricers this year.

I'll likely regret it by mid season – but at least I can tell my inner self next year (who is tempted each year) that I tried it and it didn't work.

DEF: H. Shaw, R. Laird, T. Sheridan, T. Cutler, J. Weitering, M. Dea (M. Hartley, M. Adams)

MID: P. Dangerfield,S. Pendlebury, H. Bennell, M. Crouch, T. Liberatore, J. De Goey, C. Mills, C. Oliver (B. Kennedy, C. Menadue, S. Kerridge)

RUCK: N. Naitanui, M. Gawn (S. Grimley)

FWD: M. Barlow, T. Greene, A. Hall, M. Suckling, D. Wells, D. Kent (J. Simpkin, M. Brown)

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 19:35

    Bad move on Bennell better options!

    jockreynolds · 17/03/2016 at 20:11

    Mate.. read your intro and braced for the worst.. but I admire your plumbs. Find other alternatives for Cutler and Bennell.. and who knows. Could be a shark team.

    WoodySpoon · 17/03/2016 at 21:20

    I got burnt on Cutler last year. I thought he was going to go BANG. But he went fizzzzzzzzzz.
    Still THIS might be the year, he is one year older after all.

    tophawk · 17/03/2016 at 21:21

    Too much risk in your starting side IMO. Remember mate, Supercoach is a marathon which lasts 23 rounds.

CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 19:38


George · 17/03/2016 at 19:47

fwd line is Barlow, Robinson, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, Mccarthy (Brown, Adams)
Too shallow? This has allowed me to go a double premo ruck strategy, have Shannon Hurn at D4 and Patty Cripps at M6 plus 60k left

    CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 20:05

    It is okay to go thin in Forward line as long as the rookies are solid meaning that they won't hurt you with sub 60 scores.
    I don't mind Cripps as M6 but think you are missing the win win player Libba
    1st win is his stepping stone ability for us this year while in tandem that scoring ability of 95-105.
    2nd win is he can sit at M8 after byes and trade him last for a top 8 midfielder later.
    Burn is the only selection I can judge as risky but who knows with Eagles defenders back Hurn could run free again?

      CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 20:06

      Sry meant Hurn not Burn lol

        tophawk · 17/03/2016 at 21:25

        Bad omen Carla. Dont pick Hurn! 😉

      George · 17/03/2016 at 20:40

      I have Libba M7, going for a stacked midfield and a pretty risky defence with Laird, McGovern, JJ, Hurn, Dea, Hartley.

Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 20:02

So is Petracca out 3-5?

    jockreynolds · 17/03/2016 at 20:10

    Gday irritated one.. word from the fitness staff is they'll ease him in through the VFL mate

      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 20:17

      Thanks Jock!

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 20:31

    He could be useful as an early loophole starting selection though, as he'll likely play senior footy very soon.

      'Don't Blush Babbie' · 17/03/2016 at 20:44

      Exactly SC, get him now, use as a loop and save a trade by not having to get him later on

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 21:35

        I'm going the other way. Who knows what rooks will b available when the cows fatten? If he plays rd 4-5 trade him in rd 6-7 for a fat cow, works for me and dpp to boot!

          SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 22:11

          Yes there's that school of thought too Trigger so I'm still mulling over that one myself.

          If he misses 1 or 2 he could be the ideal early loophole starting selection but once it drifts past 3 or 4 then probably better as a downgrade man instead to generate cash for your first paint the fence upgrade.

          Of course Mathieson should be appearing on the scene about then and perhaps Freeman too so maybe there will be other midfield downgrade options anyway.


            Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 22:52

            I like triggers logic….and that what I was thinking. We have to trade or save one way or another in certain position? I think taking a rook and waiting for Petracca come into form on 3rd or 4th match is the ideal situation?

              SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 23:36

              It's a tricky one for mine. With Petracca's DPP I could play all kinds of emergency loophole silly buggers in addition to captain' s loophole. Those extra potential points could more than offset a slight delay in cash generation in just one bench position.

              Melbourne is a pretty good team for loophole purposes as well so I'm going to have to think through the possibilities and probabilities, look at draws etc before making a call on that one.

                Mighty_Hondo · 18/03/2016 at 01:14

                Simply brilliant!

            Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 22:55

            Mathieson is 6 weeks out at least..Petracca is 3-5? I think Mathieson is probably 7-8 if we learned anything from Sloane last year!

              Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 22:57

              Mathieson could be a good paint the fence approaching the byes as well?

Liam · 17/03/2016 at 20:06

Who has everyone got at D3. I'm problems and tossing and turning on who to pick.
I have N.Wilson at the moment but might be upgraded to Rich. If i do that I will have to downgrade Shiel to Kennedy.

    CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 20:13

    My D3 is Bartel and D4 is Rich

    Hope these two take me to 4 keepers

    Think this year Rich can reach greater heights 90-95
    Bartel we know can put out 90+ average but it will hurt if he gets rested more than a couple of times this season.

    Who are your other defenders?

      Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 20:16

      D3 KK D4 Dea. and it scares the sh/t out of me.

        CarlaShirley · 17/03/2016 at 20:20

        i see
        Well if your fwd line is stronger because of it then stick to your gut feeling
        I am taking risks too as well as many others with our selections and structures.
        I wish you a good year 🙂

      Liam · 17/03/2016 at 20:30

      I have Laird at D1 and Bartel at D2, but I think i'm going to upgrade it.

    Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 20:25


milesdeutscher · 17/03/2016 at 20:14

Weitering or Dea community?

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 20:20


    Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 20:29


    Shinboner · 17/03/2016 at 20:30

    Dea for me, the big W might need a rest throughout the year but i don't think Dea will unless he's got a broken leg.
    Even then the Essendon coaching staff might sit him in a forward pocket

    Redgumwon · 18/03/2016 at 13:38

    I think both will score similar. So take DEA and save yourself $30,000 to $40,000 cash to spend elsewhere.

Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 20:21

Can anybody tell me where you can find the percentage of teams a player is picked in?

    Wattsieesq · 17/03/2016 at 21:07

    Go to Players, then coaches choice, down the left hand side.

      Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 21:09

      Thanks Wattsie.

BigBoyMcevoy · 17/03/2016 at 20:25

devon smith or toby greene?

    gaz · 17/03/2016 at 20:30


    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 20:35

    Greene purely on value and is firmly locked at F2 in SC.

    However i reckon Devon Smith is also set for a terrific year too so have selected him in my RDT side instead.

      BigBoyMcevoy · 17/03/2016 at 20:58

      thanks guys

Shinboner · 17/03/2016 at 20:28

Howdy gang,
What are the communities thoughts on Dustin Martins current family issues on his point scoring ability?
I wonder if he's the sort of lad that might suffer a form slump because of of-field dramas, or alternatively he could take it out on the footy field and produce some impressive scores???

I've been pondering this all day at work and its been really giving me the shits.

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 20:31

    he's out of my side……upgrade later?

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 20:43

    I can't fit him into my preferred forward structure so like Shaw he will be one of my first priority upgrade targets.

    So bring on an early form slump I say …. just kidding!

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 17/03/2016 at 21:16

    History is against him starting well

    CapTnKaOs · 17/03/2016 at 21:56

    Dusty usually gives us a buying opportunity under 500k. I'm going to wait and see.

Sana · 17/03/2016 at 20:31

Really need your thoughts community!

Lids, B Crouch, Weitering, Ruggles
Laird, T Greene, K Collins, McCarthy

Option 1 leaves me pretty light in defence… But if I'd get more points does it matter, given how unpredictable defence is? Would love your thoughts, cheers

    Sana · 23/03/2016 at 14:30

    I'd go with option two as Lids isn't named.

    Thanks Sana

    No worries Sana

azza · 17/03/2016 at 20:35

hey guys thoughts on my team:
def: shaw,laird,Johanissen,sheridan,hartley, adams (M.brown,ruggles)

Mid: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Ward, Rockliff, libba,mills,greesham (Mathieson – yes i know he is injured, davis,hewett)

Ruck – Martin, Gawn (korchek)

Fwd – barlow,s.gray,a.hall,wells,b.kennedy,kerridge (grimely,ATP)

have 110k in the bank

    hedski · 18/03/2016 at 09:17


Rhyth · 17/03/2016 at 20:40

I think I speak for the community Jock when I say we are in debt to you and your team. You leave no stone unturned in your quest to provide us with the best advice to aid us in our journey for SuperCoach immortality.

I would really like to know your opinion on the relevance of young Bailey Dale. I think he's made of the right stuff. Got maybe a dozen games last year and was a solid pill collector. Reckon he played their NAB 3 ( a chance then for round 1?) and scored well. He's pretty cheap $170k and a DPP and I reckon bevo's pants stretch a bit for him.

Again many thanks to you and your disciples.

    Nick · 17/03/2016 at 21:40

    he is a spud. Max points was 50 last year and probably wont even play

      Rhyth · 17/03/2016 at 22:03

      They were vested scores though you don't think he could go higher with a full game?

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 22:40

    It would be an 'out there' selection Rhyth which is not what we are really looking for with cash generating rooks. We are not that interested in searching for PODs with our rookies in the same way as we are for midpriced and premo keepers.

    He only played the one NAB game with a fairly underwhelming performance it has to be said.

    It's just when you've got other awesome choices up front like Kerridge, McCarthy, Kennedy, Milera, Menadue, AMT, Adams who all performed well in the NAB it's hard to get too excited by one Bailey Dale. Check out the rookie spreadsheet with all the relevant stats to see what I mean.

      Rhyth · 18/03/2016 at 00:06

      Cheers addict you make a lot of sense!

    Rhythm is a panther · 18/03/2016 at 00:19

    Dale down to McCarthy and rampe up to Simpson. Thanks again addict

Liam · 17/03/2016 at 20:43

Fyfe or Pendles ?

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 20:44


      VEX · 17/03/2016 at 20:49

      Fyfe everyday of the week

      Adam walker · 18/03/2016 at 14:06

      Fyfe easily

    'Don't Blush Babbie' · 17/03/2016 at 20:50

    Fyfe by a long way ,superstar

      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 20:58

      Fyfe will be great and have high scores but wont play as much as Pendels…….Pendels is consistent and will play 21-22 Fyfe wont! Fyfe maybe 19 games ….Pendels will have a few big scores as will but will avg 110-120 Fyfe might avg a bit above that but will play less.

        Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 20:59

        *as will Pendels*

Doc · 17/03/2016 at 20:48

JJ or suckling at D3?

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 20:53


    Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 21:00


Liam · 17/03/2016 at 20:57

I have I,473,400 to pick 3 players. A defender (D4), a midfielder (M5), A forward (F1).
Let me know who to choose.

Cheers Liam

    Crowmagnon · 17/03/2016 at 20:59

    Weitering Priddis Dusty.

      Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 21:03

      Weitering, Gray, Deledio.

        Liam · 17/03/2016 at 21:11

        Can go pendles instead of Gray. Is that better ?

          Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 21:19

          I like Gray as a POD. If you prefer Pendles go with him.

    'Don't Blush Babbie' · 17/03/2016 at 21:02

    Lonergan 346k,Duncan 493k, Dusty 570k

      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 21:07

      Dusty an easy upgrade bag him look somewhere else!

      Liam · 17/03/2016 at 21:09

      Not sold on Duncan.

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 21:15

    Ok I'll play this game too as it seems like fun:

    JJ $418K
    Shiel $555K
    Robbo $500K
    TOTAL $1,473K!

      Liam · 17/03/2016 at 21:24

      Cheers Sc that looks the goods.
      I like Robbo with Beams and Zorko out.

        SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 21:26

        As it happens I do have all three of these guys in one of my 3 fantasy sides although none in Supercoach as it happens, but I do believe these are all decent picks for the money in SC too.

    Holty · 18/03/2016 at 09:48

    id go b crouch in the mids which would allow you to go keepers in your defense and forward lines.

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 13:01

    Put your team up with 'Advice' inplace of your D4, M5, F1. I could give you heaps of combinations but whats the point if you already have the suggested players

      Liam · 18/03/2016 at 17:40

      My team is on the mega thread that was posted.

Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 21:08

Marcus Adams or Nathan Broad?

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 21:21

    Both….Adams in Back line and AMT in fwd line….swing option

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 21:47

    Yes I agree if both are named then I'll be looking to select both too.

    They look like nice little earners to me along with AMT as well.

leviathan · 17/03/2016 at 21:12

Hi community,

Changed my team more often this week than my son changed nappies………

Any thoughts appreciated.

def: Shaw, Laird, Mc Govern, Sheridan, M.Brown (Ess), Hartley (Broad, Ruggles)

mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Shiel, Rockliff, Cripps, Liberatore, B Crouch, Mills (Gresham, Petracca, Davis)

ruc: Martin, Naitanui (Wyatt)

fwd: Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, B.Kennedy, Kerridge (Mc Carthy, Mc Donald-Tipungwuti)


    scyb · 17/03/2016 at 22:18

    Where's gaz?!

BigBoyMcevoy · 17/03/2016 at 21:12

top 5 midfield rookie including the elevated pricers

    Fevolution · 18/03/2016 at 07:46

    Mills parish Oliver Kennedy Fraser

Gro · 17/03/2016 at 21:15

Here’s my team, risky as I have left out Goldy, Ablett, Shaw, Hall and Rocky, have gone in with a really shallow fwd line and have some make or break selections down back.
D: Laird, McGovern, Johanissen, Hurn, Dea, Hartley (AMT, Ruggles)
M: Fyfe, Danger, Priddis, Ward, Shiel, Cripps, Libba, Mills (Gore, Keays, Davis)
R: NicNat, Gawn (Grimely)
F: Barlow, Robinson, Wells, Kennedy, Menadue, Kerridge (Brown, Adams)
45k left

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 21:25

    No! No Shiels and Ward……one or the other not both. Change.

    BigBoyMcevoy · 17/03/2016 at 21:27

    solid but probably to deep in backline with flurry of good rookies, and too shallow in forward line. 🙂

    tophawk · 17/03/2016 at 21:34

    I like your side! Pretty balanced across all lines with a bit of risk taking. My only concern is this, why pick two semi/ premo WCE defenders and 2 premo GWS midfielders? You may cannibalise yourself points here. In sum, one eagle out in your backline, and one Giant out in your midfield. Cheers

      Gro · 17/03/2016 at 21:41

      Was thinking the same way, and I prefer Hurn to McGovern so I could drop him for weitering, free up 210k.

      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 23:19

      Yes tophawk!

Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 21:19

Does the community think Sheridan can score 80-90 plus?? Thinking D4?

    Danners · 17/03/2016 at 21:27

    He probably will average 80-90, but not much more

      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 21:41

      ok ty Danners

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 21:40

    I think it's well within the realms of the possible but will it happen well I'm just not sure. All the indicators seem to be pointing in that direction but I just can't accommodate him in my own squad unfortunately.

    I doubt many coaches know with 100% clarity what to do with their D3s or D4s this season but at least we are all in this together!

      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 22:41

      Thanks SCaddict! I understand the dilemma.

VEX · 17/03/2016 at 21:31

Hurn at D2 too risky/light? Think he is really undervalued this year, should get to at least 85+ average IMO

    VEX · 17/03/2016 at 21:31

    assuming the key backs stay on the park

      Glorin · 18/03/2016 at 01:21

      Mitch Brown out for 6 weeks. May affect McGoven more than Hurn.

    Jobesbrownlow · 17/03/2016 at 21:33

    Too light. He's a D3 at most IMO.

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 12:57

    Hurn has been 'ABOUT TO BREAKOUT' since 2009. The problem is that he is using a plastic teaspoon to dig his breakout tunnel and has never returned to that 2009 average.

Foti186 · 17/03/2016 at 21:36

Hi guys. New to this community just joined tonight. this is my 2nd year doing supercoach and just wanted some criticism on my team lol. Thanks
DEF: Shaw,Johannisen,sheriden,Weitering,Dea,Hartley (Broad, ?)
MID: Ablett,Dangerfield,Pendleybury,Rockliff,Wines,Libba,Mills,Kennedy (Kerridge,Keays, ?)
RUCK: Martin,Jacobs (Grimley)
FWD: Barlow,Greene,Hall,Wells,Mccarthy,Brown, (AMT, ?)
the ? is I don't know who to pick yet. Waiting to see who gets named.
Thanks guys.

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 22:01

    I think you have done a sterling job mate.

    Only one minor thing is that you definitely want Kerridge on your forward field rather than midfield bench as I expect him to score at least 80 at an absolute minimum and probably more.

    He averaged 115 in the NAB so he should excel with his fresh start at the Blues.

      Foti186 · 17/03/2016 at 22:21

      Thanks for that. Will make that change ASAP.

Sam · 17/03/2016 at 21:43

Looking for some thoughts and comments of any type on version 2000 of my squad.
DEF: H.Shaw, R.Laird, J.Weitering, M.Dea, M.Brown, M.Adams (C.Adamson, T.Ruggles)

MID: N.Fyfe, P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, G.Ablett, T.Rockliff, T.Liberatore, C.Mills, B.Kennedy (C.Petracca, J.Dunkley, R.Davis)

RUCK: T.Goldstein, Z.Smith (S.Grimley)

FOR: M.Barlow, K.Tippet, S.Gray, A.Hall, D.Wells, C.Menadue (S.Kerridge, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti)

I've got 27,100 left over. Please tear my team apart or build it up!

    VEX · 17/03/2016 at 22:37

    Im running with a similar backline mate so I like it.

    Only thing I would do is pick only one of Hall/Gray. Theres a plethora of <200k fwd rookies and think going in with both could be a bit risky. Plus, the extra cash could be used to upgrade Smith or strengthen another line

    Grahame Lebroy · 18/03/2016 at 04:16

    Kerridge on ground Menadue to bench

POM · 17/03/2016 at 22:00

Whats the best amount of cash to hold in the cap? Fingers crossed there will be no need to make any early corrections but reality says there may be…

I currently have $62,700…it seems a bit wasted but I'm also happy with my team.

DEF: Laird, KK, Rampe, Sheridan, Dea, Brown (Hartley, Ruggles)
MID: Danger, Pendels, GAJ, Rocky, Wines, Libba, B.Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Petracca, Davis)
RUCK: NicNat, Gawn (Loersch)
FWD: Barlow, Hall, Greene, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (Grimley, ATM)

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 22:39

    Like ur team but I would get Shaw in backline? and having 25-30 in kitty I think is ideal? Just my option thought?

    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 22:59

    Anything under $100K is fine in my view. I've seen some folks in the past hold back as much as $300-400K for early upgrades and corrections which is just crazy.

    Man I'm seeing a lot of these Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells forward lines now just like mine which is good in one way but bad in another ha ha.

Glorin · 17/03/2016 at 22:20

You would expect Petracc a to play 1-2 VFL games and with Casey rd 1 being 9th April that means first game would be round 4 and on bubble going into rd 6,. Best case scenario. Start with him with this in mind!

Setting up as a prime downgrade going into rd 6-7.

    West · 17/03/2016 at 22:33

    really helpful mate, cheers

    could maybe use him as a loophole if no other good mid rookies around that price pop up

      Chevy · 18/03/2016 at 07:00

      But there has been talk of him plating R1

    West · 17/03/2016 at 22:34

    really helpful mate, cheers

    Could use him as a loophole if no other good mid rookies around that price pop up

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 12:54

    Wise words Glorin I'll certainly be leaving him out until he's on the bubble.

Simmo6 · 17/03/2016 at 22:32

Jock = King.

would love some thoughts

Shaw, laird, lonergan (GC), Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Adams, ruggles)

Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, gray, Shiel, Parker, liberatore, mills, (Gresham, petracca, Davis)

Goldstein, Z Smith (grimley)

Barlow, robinson, wells, Kennedy, menadue, Kerridge (McCarthy, Tipungwuti)

Jess_coach · 17/03/2016 at 23:13

Thoughts on my team please anyone?

Shaw, Bartel, Rich, Dea, Hartley, Collins, (Brown, McTip)

Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Hannebery, Rockliffe, Liba, Mills, Gresham (Petracca, Keays, Davis)

Goldy, Gawn, (Whatt)

Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, (Grimley, Adams)

    Jess_coach · 17/03/2016 at 23:48

    Or other option is to Hannebery to J Selwood if he is fit

    Grahame Lebroy · 18/03/2016 at 04:25

    Like the team. Personally if u can find the extra 35k or so I would turn Bartel into Laird . Think Laird should outscore and play more games than Bartel this year

      Holty · 18/03/2016 at 09:57

      extra 35k? im surprised Jess has managed to fit everyone in under the salary cap as it is.
      Looks a very solid team Jess. I personally would stick with Hanners. Great POD.

        Grahame Lebroy · 18/03/2016 at 12:02

        Holty 35k is roughly the difference between Laird and Bartel

          Holty · 18/03/2016 at 12:33

          I know mate. Wasn't disagreeing with you. I was only stating I doubt Jess would have any money left as her side looks pretty strong and she probably would of spent the lot.

4rm · 17/03/2016 at 23:13

I have loved having Libba in my side the years he went 105ish and 110. I am now having doubts. Can he pick up where he left off? 2014 Minson was AA if I remember right. There is no luxury of Minson or any Doggy ruckman putting the ball down Libbas throat in 2016? Add to that how hard it is coming back from such bad knee, I have my doubts and am looking to either upgrade to a premium in the mid ,or have a 200 k rook in there and go stronger in defence. Justified shark move or silly move .Love your thoughts community.

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 23:38

    Libba should be a lock in everyone's side and be 100% SC most wanted player if he's not well the less 100% will be making a huge mistake. You can't pass on his skill and price….which is sooooooooooooooooo cheap! You can lose!

      Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 23:39


    SCaddict · 17/03/2016 at 23:47

    Bottom line is that I think you just have to start with him at that bargain basement price. He should deliver premo or near premo production at cheap ass midprice rates. More than half the comp has him so even if things do go pear shaped you'll have heaps of company dealing with that same problem too.

    You just have to come to the terms with the fact that he probably isn't a season long keeper. So once he's topped out in price it will be time to move him on to jump on some fallen elite who has got off to a slow start and plummeted in price.

      4rm · 18/03/2016 at 00:12

      Thanks for the feedback guys.

    fatboyfat7 · 18/03/2016 at 00:59

    I personally don't see him as a 'must have' and I'm not starting with him. If he can get back to what I think, 95-100 avg, after an injury like that I reckon it would be a more realistic target. That means he's not quite a keeper and the cash generation isn't exactly mind blowing. If I'm wrong it's a big loss but I'm confident in passing him over this year.

      Glorin · 18/03/2016 at 01:13

      I had him locked. But I have to agree with all of the comments here. It depends on your approach.
      If you are happy to run with a mid pricer you have to trade out then he is a lock.
      If you are going the other way, you can generate the same cash with a rookie and make up the points by using the cash to upgrade another to a premo keeper. This potentially saves a trade aswell.
      From my point of view if you have him and he averages anything under 100 it's a waste. Still may have to use him if rookies dont fall our way.

    Phil · 18/03/2016 at 01:12

    Yeah agree, I'm starting to think 2017 might be the year to pick Libba at 500k or so

    Grahame Lebroy · 18/03/2016 at 04:35

    I am picking him as a good point scoring stepping stone. He is underpriced, I just want him to get around 500k and then turn into a premo mid gun on my upgrade target list . Great value

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2016 at 09:20

    What happened to him in nab 4? Didn't see the game and details r sketchy. But read he looked slow and couldn't keep up with the gun and run dogs game plan. Is it totally crazy to go Matt crouch or hunter who looks good on.the wing instead?

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 12:50

    excellent post 4rm caused me to go and have a look and the comparative outputs of Libba and skinflute in 2014
    In 2014 Minson only had 4 games with less than 30HO in those games Libba scored 84,93,125,79 (the 125 was against Crowley)

    In 2014 Minsons best 4 games for HO were 55,48,45,43 in these games Libba had 154,76,139,142 (the 76 was against Ed Curnow)
    Looking at all the data Minsons output did have an effect on Libba's scores but not enough to warrant disregarding him this year.

      4rm · 18/03/2016 at 14:55

      Has anybody watched him closely in the NAB? I would love to know if he is moving as well as he was before the knee. Is the strength and confidence back?

        DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 15:46

        I had a close look at him and I think he's forgotten that he once had a sore knee. My old man reckons that Libbas dad had the same injury and came back in the same season and looked like he hadn't missed a game, but that probably in the 70's when you were called a sook if you didn't keep playing after being knocked out or losing a few teeth. Point is that he has some of the genes his dad's got so he is less likely to suffer the confidence issue that can affect some players coming back from injury

Jordan · 17/03/2016 at 23:16

greene or de goey?
Martin or deledio?
Gawn, mumford or martin?

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 23:43


    fatboyfat7 · 18/03/2016 at 00:40

    Martin (same as itchy balls for me, not starting either myself. LIDS will prob miss plenty of games throughout the season which is why i said Martin.)
    Martin (prob safer but nothing wrong with Gawn. Mummy again will miss games)

    Foti186 · 18/03/2016 at 05:23

    Every one seems to be picking Martin up front. I got a bad feeling this year about him.
    I'd go Greene and S Martin

    Mike · 18/03/2016 at 10:23

    Mummy is the shark move. Will score 150+ some weeks and be a great POD. Has a history of missing games, though that doesn't necessarily mean he will this year.

Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 23:31

Ok heres my first side

Shaw, Rich, Sheridan, Dea, M. Brown(ESS), Hartley (M. Adams, Ruggles)

Danger, Pendels, Ablett, R. Gray, Shiel, Rocky, Libba, C. Mills (Kerridge, R.Davis, MacPherson)

Nic Nat, Gawn (Grimley)

Barlow, Greene, A. Hall, D. Wells, Milera, Menadue (Beech, AMT)

Yes I will move Kerridge in fwd line the structure is based on th rookies who play so rookies will be moved around based on line up coming in the next week…..Kerridge will be on field player for sure!

Thanks all

    Derek · 18/03/2016 at 09:15

    It's a good team, seems like you have all the flavours of the month. NAB month.

    I seriously only see 9 keepers there. You should be able to make plenty of cash but will you run out of trades trying upgrade them all.

      fatboyfat7 · 18/03/2016 at 11:54

      Disagree with that, maybe I can't count very well but how are you only seeing 9 keepers? I'm seeing a solid 12…

neil · 17/03/2016 at 23:55

what is emergency loophole

    Itchy balls · 17/03/2016 at 23:57


    SCaddict · 18/03/2016 at 00:16

    It's a similar concept to the captain's loophole but it's something you can do on one or more lines whenever you have one non scoring player in a given round, typically a rookie although it doesn't have to be.

    To exploit this loophole you put the E on a player, usually a rookie, who plays early in the round. If you DO like the score then you put the non playing guy on the field and you automatically collect the sweet emergency score as a result.

    But if you DON'T like your emergency score well then you simply keep that non playing guy on your other bench spot and play another scoring guy on the field.

    It can often get you an extra 10-20pts per instance, sometimes a lot more, which can be the difference between winning or losing a super tight league game with few PODs. It's something every serious Supercoacher should at least have in their toolbox.

      Itchy balls · 18/03/2016 at 00:41

      SCaddict…… u crack me up! So thorough even when its the most obvious easiest question! Bravo! Seems like a silly question to me with so obvious many answers and you just go all out! Bow to you!

        SCaddict · 18/03/2016 at 01:09

        We were all once Supercoach initiates mate.

        I'm sure even the Father of Fantasy back in the 70s was at one point having it explained to him why it may not be the best choice to start with a KPP like 'Jezza' in JR Brumby FC's forward line, but rather bring him in when he's bottomed out in price instead.

        Just proud to be part of this god damn beautiful community!

      neil · 18/03/2016 at 11:04

      thx sc much appreciated

@grayson_lowee · 18/03/2016 at 00:28

Sam Gray or Toby Greene?

    Itchy balls · 18/03/2016 at 00:35


@grayson_lowee · 18/03/2016 at 00:53

Hey fellas, starting up a new 18-man league and would really appreciate any active and serious supercoach players to join and take part in league chat, best of luck to all who join, Code: 732653

Chevy · 18/03/2016 at 00:58

My one and only dilemma…

Chevy · 18/03/2016 at 01:00

My one any only dilemma….

Christensen or Hall?

    Grahame Lebroy · 18/03/2016 at 04:39

    Hall by the length of the straight

      Chevy · 18/03/2016 at 06:57

      Any particular reason?
      More potential scoring?

        Grahame Lebroy · 18/03/2016 at 07:45

        Hall is in great form which he has carried since Rd. 17 last year. Gold coast midfield has been hit by injuries and even so would Rocket take him out given his form, doubtful. He is 38k cheaper too. He should outscore Christenson easily this year. Just my thoughts could be wrong

    Derek · 18/03/2016 at 09:18

    If you go with Christensen I think you will be the only one who has him

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 12:27


mick944 · 18/03/2016 at 01:09

How important is a captain loophole? Basically Grimley or non playing ruck at R3? What happens if say Goldy gets suspended for a couple weeks. Is sacrificing cover worth it for a captain loophole?

    PJ8 · 18/03/2016 at 05:57

    Put Grimley in your forward line. Make your R3 a non playing DPP.


    Derek · 18/03/2016 at 09:20

    If you don't have a captain loophole your not serious. Must have strategy.

      Loop · 18/03/2016 at 10:22

      My strategy is (at the moment) to have Grimley at R3, that gives me an extra cash making rookie in the forward line. When I cash in that rookie I'll move Grimley to the forward line and bring in the loophole R3 then. I'm really not sure if its a good idea. Am I giving away too many potential points and missing the fun of having the loophole player.

        Sarah · 18/03/2016 at 10:31

        A Captain Loophole could score you an extra 50 points / week. Grimely could average 40-50 for the season. He's a good player for a slow burn, just don't expect anything from him and hope you don't have to put him on the field.

Stickman · 18/03/2016 at 02:05

Great stuff Jock!
Gives me a lot to ponder.
The team is currently looking like this with 20k in the bank:
Houli, Enright, Johannisen, Weitering, Dea, Brown (Hartley, Collins)
Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Shiel, Liberatore, Ah Chee, Mills, Gore (Hewett, Long, Clarke)
Naitanui, Gawn (Grimley)
Martin, Barlow, S.Gray, Hall, Wells, Kennedy (Kerridge, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

Daniel · 18/03/2016 at 02:36

What are everyone's thoughts on "Boomer" Harvey at F3 instead of Gray, Merrett, Greene or Hall? Since 2010 he has averaged:

2010 :100.4 (after an average of 87.7 in 2009)
2011 : 101.1
2012 : 95.5
2013 : 104.1
2014 : 107.7
2015 : 90.1 (95.8 without his 2 sub-affected games)

A pattern has seemingly emerged where he will average 100+ for consecutive seasons then average under 100 the next year, then get back to averaging 100+ for the next two seasons, going by that logic he would average 100+ this season. I feel he is undervalued and due to the sub rule being scrapped I think that he could be a major beneficiary of this. Would choosing Harvey be too risky or do we think he can he get back to his 100+ average for what looks to be his final season?

    Jobesbrownlow · 18/03/2016 at 08:40

    It's a coincidence. I wouldn't pick him but he could be a POD for you.

    fatboyfat7 · 18/03/2016 at 11:57

    Def a POD but for the love of god don't use that logic to justify it! I reckon his years of relevance are behind him to be honest.

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 12:26

    Interesting pattern Daniel but with his age and the development of younger players I'm tipping at least 10pts less on his 2015 ave.

Grahame Lebroy · 18/03/2016 at 04:52

Can't believe he is 2 months shy of his 38th Bday. Still a quality footballer . SC wise he could still be very solid and maybe a good POD in the Fwd line. I won't be starting with him because I think there players round his price that will score better eg; Barlow,Robinson and the ones u mentioned

Mark · 18/03/2016 at 05:18

Need some help with this one folks:

Mitch Robinson or Toby Greene?

    Sam · 18/03/2016 at 06:56


    Derek · 18/03/2016 at 09:23

    Robinson could be a great pick without beams. But he is reckless and will give away too many frees. He was in my team, but I've gone with Rich, didn't want to many lions in team.

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 12:07

    IMO Robinson is a better option than green.
    Based on the last 8 games of 2015 their stats were very similar FA Mitch averaged 0.5 more than Toby and 0.25 more FF than Toby p/game – Kicks Toby ave 10p/game Mitch 11.5 – Handballs Toby 12.5 Mitch 14.3 – Marks Toby 3.4 Mitch 4.0 – Goals both ave 0.5 p/game. The major difference is in tackles Toby 3.9 p/game Mitch 9.9p/game.
    Both have a hothead reputation but Mitch won the Lions best and fairest and was made Captain for NAB which indicates that he's matured since going north, whereas Toby hasn't really done anything to indicate that he's matured.

    I haven't bothered calculating the score difference between the two of them based on the stats but it has to be more than 20pts p/game

Sam · 18/03/2016 at 06:56

Love your work Jock!

Question, community: Jesse Lonergan (D3) & Ollie Wines (M5) vs Heath Shaw & Clayton Oliver?

    Sam · 18/03/2016 at 06:59

    Scratch that. Daniel Howe (D4) and Ollie Wines vs Shaw&Oliver

      DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 11:43

      I think Ollie and heater will ave similar and Oliver (if he plays) will ave 10 more than howe

    Kev · 18/03/2016 at 09:41


Simmo6 · 18/03/2016 at 07:49

Hey all what's some thoughts on this team

Shaw, laird, lonergan (GC), Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Adams, ruggles)

Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, gray, Shiel, Parker, liberatore, mills, (Gresham, petracca, Davis)

Goldstein, Z Smith (grimley)

Barlow, robinson, wells, Kennedy, menadue, Kerridge (McCarthy, Tipungwuti)

    Simmo6 · 18/03/2016 at 07:54

    And have thoughts of swapping
    Shaw > Simpson
    Lonergan > Mackenzie
    Libba > Rockliff

    Parker at M7 saves me a trade as I don't see liberatore being a keeper… Risky.. But gotta take some risk somewhere… Thoughts?

    Derek · 18/03/2016 at 09:25

    Gray, Shiel and Parker?

TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2016 at 09:25

Stringer v hall. Both have huge breakout potential. Is hall going to be affected school score wise when God and other mid return Rd 1?
Stringer can tear a game apart but will he stay fwd or get some mid time?

    Phat Man · 18/03/2016 at 10:32

    Hall will have plenty of time in the mid with swallow, JOM and prestia all out for a while so Hall is your safer option

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 11:39

    I agree with Phat Man TH. With Crameri gone Stringer is likely to spend more time up front than in the middle

Doc · 18/03/2016 at 09:29

Community, can you pull my team apart please.

Shaw, Boyd, Rampe, weitering, dea, Hartley (broad, m.adams).

Ablett, danger, r.gray, hannerbry, rocky, Libba, b.crouch, mills (menadue, hewett, Davis)

Gawn, Sinclair, (King)

Barlow, hall, Menzel, wells, kerridge, Kennedy, (McCarthy, AMT).

243k in the bank.
Plan to upgrade crouch if not picked for round 1. If he is picked will upgrade Menzel.

Aim to move Sinclair forward and upgrade to a premium forward if he goes alright (as ruck cover), or just straight upgrade to a premo ruck if he struggles from the get go.


    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 11:12

    I have doubts that B.Crouch and Menzel will play round 1 for crows. Menzel has recently been called out as being unfit when he turned up and a few weeks behind the rest of the group IMO Milera will play the role Menzel wants early.
    B.Crouch – everybody needs to have a second think about this bloke sure he got 40 disposals in a Sanfl game last week but 30 of those were handballs (not so good for SC), is he handballing at 3-1 because he doesn't trust his fragile foot?
    When he last played in 2014 his K to HB ratio was closer to 1.3HB for each kick. I won't be trusting him until he's played at least 2 games and showed that he can turn at least turn 33% of his disposals into kicks

Kev · 18/03/2016 at 09:40

If you really want Sinclair move him to F3 for Menzel or Wells and invest that 243k in a ruck

Tret · 18/03/2016 at 09:56

Shiel and Weitering


Hurn and Oliver

option 1 would mean that Laird would at D2 with Harwood at D3. This would also see libba at M7.
Option 2 would make my team more balance with Hurn at D3 and Libba at M6.

What do we think?

VEX · 18/03/2016 at 10:01

Hurn V Brodie Smith?

    Chill · 18/03/2016 at 13:10

    Brodie Smith.

Blueth · 18/03/2016 at 10:04

When you're M7 is Brad Crouch, i think you can afford to be brave in the midfield and save some money for the few solid DEF's. You don't wanna rely on bombers defenders. If you think Matt Dea is gonna save you, you're in trouble.

Shaw, KK, Bartel, Hurn, Weitering, M. Brown (Broad, AMT)
Danger, Hanners, Rockliff, Viney, Libba, B. Ah Chee, B. Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Phillips, Davis)
Goldfingers, Gawn (Cox)
Barlow, Greene, Hal, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Grimely, Adams)

    Sarah · 18/03/2016 at 10:34

    Matt Dea's was a terrible footballe at Richmond, but he's been gifted an opportunity. All Essendon rookie priced players are more likely to be shocking, there guaranteed games though.

    Derek · 18/03/2016 at 14:00

    Hurn is going to save you!

Mike · 18/03/2016 at 10:17

Does Patton suddenly become relevant with no McCarthy and no Cameron at GWS?

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 11:19

    Maybe if he was bitten by a radioactive spider during the off season

CockReynolds · 18/03/2016 at 10:23

Pretty average information

Please rate my team

DEF: H.Shaw, R.Laird, J.Weitering, M.Dea, M.Brown, M.Adams (C.Adamson, T.Ruggles)

MID: N.Fyfe, P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, G.Ablett, T.Rockliff, T.Liberatore, C.Mills, B.Kennedy (C.Petracca, J.Dunkley, R.Davis)

RUCK: T.Goldstein, Z.Smith (S.Grimley)

FOR: M.Barlow, K.Tippet, S.Gray, A.Hall, D.Wells, C.Menadue (S.Kerridge, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti)

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 11:19

    6.5 out of 10

Brook · 18/03/2016 at 10:32

With the lack of well performing bargain prices rookies I think I will be going in with a bigger number of higher priced rookies this year (eg. mills, weitering, dea, Kennedy, millera, menadue). Means I will have to make compromises elsewhere but I think this will work in the long term and provide me with the cash cows I need to start upgrading between rounds 7 and 11. Thoughts?

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 11:23

    Smart approach Brook just make sure that the players you intend to upgrade have genuine potential to increase sufficiently in value. eg if Menadue is worth 320K after round 8 he can't be upgraded to premo unless you have 200k or more in the bank.

      brook · 18/03/2016 at 12:17

      good point – I would get the other $200k by culling one of my other rookies. I plan to cull ten of them from R7-11 (add 5 premos and 5 new rookies to my team). if my premo starters stand up I should have 16-17 premos going into the first bye and full premo coming out into R16.

Phat Man · 18/03/2016 at 10:35

Thoughts on L.Hunter, Had a cracking finish last year, averaged 103 in the last 7 and hit the ton 4 times, Looked good in the NAB as viciously collects the pill.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2016 at 10:50

    Yeah like him guarantee spot on the wing. Thinking of going him.over libba. No vest smashed it last year without vest and been good in nab. Crazy or genius?

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 11:32

    No doubt that he's got talent phatso and on top of last years finish he scored 99 and 124 in his Nab games but, he's a 415k mid only. If he was dpp like he was previously I'd be trying to fit him my forward line. The fact that he only played 12 games for the year and 5 of them were below 50 is cause for some concern

      Phat Man · 18/03/2016 at 11:53

      Yeah those shit scores were before his role got changed. Im hoping he can be macrae 2.0 from when I started with him a couple of years ago when he went huge

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 18/03/2016 at 12:08

      The 5 lows were 1 injury and 4 vests. .

        Phat Man · 18/03/2016 at 12:11

        Yep No vest hopefully means no worries, I taking him I think

HOLLA · 18/03/2016 at 10:51

"I'd say I'll be 80 per cent through the midfield and 20 per cent down back this year."
Scott Pendlebury

    Holty · 18/03/2016 at 13:02


poloko48 · 18/03/2016 at 11:00

Team reveal #412:

DEF: Heater, Laird, Bartel, Weitering, MBrown (FWD), Hartley (Adams (FWD), KCollins)
MID: Fyfe, Hannebery, Priddis, Ward, Wines, Libba, Mills, Oliver (Gore, Petracca (FWD), Davis)
RUC: Sauce, Blicavs (MID) (MKing (FWD))
FWD: Dusty (MID), Barlow (MID), Tippett (RUC), Wells (MID), Kerridge (MID), Kommer (MMcGovern, McDonald-Tip (DEF))

Can someone confirm that Petracca Is out until R3-5 as I've seen in earlier posts?

neil · 18/03/2016 at 11:00

toying with culling GOLDY MARTIN FYFE for S.MARTIN PENDLES WINGARD or like ..This saves me 180000.enabling me to trade crouch for gray as against 2 trades …Difference culling the 3 lose 30 a week for 8 about 250 save 1 trade and keeping 2nd trade mills instead of rookie..

    Holty · 18/03/2016 at 12:49

    Not a bad idea. You are still bringing in 3 keepers to replace these saving you money. BUT, doing this puts a big dent in selecting your captain each week. Plus not selecting these means you probably wont be picking them up until the second half of the season. I personally dont have Martin and Fyfe but have Goldy for that captain week in week out.

      neil · 18/03/2016 at 14:46

      Thanks Hots didn't think of that. Martin and Fyfe are the two no doubt about that..bugs me not quite rite

CapTnKaOs · 18/03/2016 at 11:06

Not sure how ruck SC points are calculated. Does the loss of Dangerfield hurt Sauce? Surprised he is only in 6% of teams.

    Holty · 18/03/2016 at 12:06

    it will imo. you only get points when hitouts are to advantage. Danger was their best contested and clearence player. Crouch though should be able to help in that area but doubtful he will do what danger did.

neil · 18/03/2016 at 11:12

any one know what the red symbol on ablett means parish has one too thx

    gator59 · 18/03/2016 at 11:41

    Foot subject to fitness test, that's what it says when you put your cursor on the icon..

      neil · 18/03/2016 at 12:43


Nypsies · 18/03/2016 at 11:15

What are peoples thoughts on Gunston with Roughy missing??

Nypsies · 18/03/2016 at 11:27

what are peoples thoughts on Gunston in regards to Roughy being out??

    DadSmasher · 18/03/2016 at 13:20

    Could go either way Nypsies, he might not get a kick due to the extra attention or he could kick a 100 due to the extra opportunities. More likely to be somewhere in between those two extremes. The reluctance of the community to answer is indicative of the reluctance to put him in

Peter · 18/03/2016 at 11:28

Def – Laird, KK, JJ, Weitering, Dea, Brown (ess) (M, Adams, K. Collins)

Mids – Fyfe, Danger. Ablett, Rocky, Wines, Libba, Mills, B. Kennedy (Gresham, McPherson, Sumner)

Rucks – Goldstein, Gawn (Wyatt)

Fwd – Dusty, Barlow, D Smith, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca (Mccarthy, Grimley)

Don't think too much will change between now and round 1. Thoughts?

Peter · 18/03/2016 at 11:32

Def – Laird, KK, JJ, Weitering, Dea, Brown (ess) (M, Adams, K. Collins)

Mids – Fyfe, Danger. Ablett, Rocky, Wines, Libba, Mills, B. Kennedy (Gresham, McPherson, Sumner)

Rucks – Goldstein, Gawn (Wyatt)

Fwd – Dusty, Barlow, D Smith, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca (Mccarthy, Grimley)

Don't think too much will change between now and round 1. Thoughts?

    CapTnKaOs · 18/03/2016 at 12:07

    A few of points I'd make, only my opinion.
    Dea had time to show us what he is made of at Richmond. And he did. Potato. I think Hartley could be a better cash generator.
    Lots of chatter about Petracca not starting round 1. Might be a downgrade option later rather than starting with him.
    In my mind, there is some risk starting with both Gaz and Rocky. Others will disagree. Both are supposedly ready to go for round 1, but have had injury niggles. If one goes down it is a nuisance. If both go down it is a disaster.

      CapTnKaOs · 18/03/2016 at 12:30

      Having mentioned injury risk with Gaz and Rocky, I've done a similar thing.
      My team is posted below with Menzel, Wells and McCarthy all in the forward line. It could work out great, or blow up in my face.

Nypsies · 18/03/2016 at 11:40

Is anyone picking Gunston this year with Roughy out??

    Jester · 18/03/2016 at 12:50

    Think he will be a nice POD. Havent seen him in any teams. Is the pick of the KPP forwards this year. Good consistent scorer. Roughy out may hurt his scores as he wont play as much on a wing. Will be mainly a permenant fwd. I like this selection though. Is coming into his prime so may actually increase in output

murray · 18/03/2016 at 11:43

what do people think of this team structure – it is very premo in Mids& Fwd and light in back

Shaw, Laird, MBrown, Hartley, Broad, Adamson (Ruggles, Tipu)

Fyfe, Dangerfield, RGray, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Wines, Libba, Mills (davis, McPherson, cHewett)

NicNat, Gawn (Loersch)

Barlow, Tippett, SGray, AHall, Wells, Kerridge, (Adams, Greenwood)

    Holty · 18/03/2016 at 12:53

    No Ablett???
    Looks like a ok side but not sure if stacking your forward line is the way to go considering it is probably the best position for rookies this year

      murray · 18/03/2016 at 13:30

      this is my revised team WITH ABLETT

      Shaw, Laird, Weitering, Dea, MBrown, Hartley, (Ruggles, Tipu)

      Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Libba, DeGoey, Mills (davis, McPherson, cHewett)

      NicNat, Gawn (Loersch)

      Barlow, Tippett, SGray, AHall, Wells, Kerridge, (Adams, Wyatt)

    CapTnKaOs · 18/03/2016 at 12:57

    Toyed with a similar structure myself for a long while, based on the theory that DEF is the lowest scoring line anyway, and the downside risk is lowest there. Didn't have the cohones to run with it in the end. I'd probably prefer to see another premo in your defence, but it really depends on how you see Laird going.

      murray · 18/03/2016 at 13:14

      I see laird as a top 5 def. High risk structure but will use less trades. still iffy about it

Liam · 18/03/2016 at 11:58


DEF: Laird, Birchall, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Collins, Brown)

MID: Dangerfield, GAJ, JPK, Rockliff, Ellis, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Clarke, Petracca, Keays)

RUC: Goldy, Stef martin (wyatt)

FWD: Dusty, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Kerridge, Bkennedy (Mccarthy, Grimley)

Thanks in advance

CapTnKaOs · 18/03/2016 at 12:24

Getting close to my final team hopefully. Any feed back is appreciated

Def- Houli, Simpson, Bartel, Weitering, Hartley, Broad. (Brown, Ruggles)

Mid- Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Priddis, Duncan, Libba, B.Crouch, Mills. (Kennedy, Menadue, Davis)

Rucks- Goldy, NicNat. (Grimley)

Fwd- Wingard, Barlow, D.Menzel, Wells, L. McCarthy, Kerridge. (Adams, AMT)

Planning to run without a ruck loophole for the first few rounds. 54k in the bank. Not quite enough to upgrade Duncan to Rocky unfortunately.

    Holty · 18/03/2016 at 12:58

    Like this team.
    If you really want Rocky, you could always downgrade Menzel or maybe Weitering to Dea. That should hopefully give you the cash
    Although, I honestly like the Duncan selection

      CaPtKaOs · 18/03/2016 at 13:33

      I will probably stick with Duncan for now. Would prefer to see how Rockys hamstrings go for a week or two first anyway. Bargain price or not.

Mr Question Face · 18/03/2016 at 13:29

Lids, B Crouch, Weitering, Ruggles
Laird, T Greene, K Collins, McCarthy

murray · 18/03/2016 at 13:33

what do people think of this team structure – it is very premo in Mids& Fwd and light in back
Shaw, Laird, Weitering, Dea, MBrown, Hartley, (Ruggles, Tipu)

Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Libba, DeGoey, Mills (davis, McPherson, cHewett)

NicNat, Gawn (Loersch)

Barlow, Tippett, SGray, AHall, Wells, Kerridge, (Adams, Wyatt)

Duffy · 18/03/2016 at 14:19

Shaw,, Houli, Rich, T McKenzie, J Weitering, Tipungwuti, (Bonner,Collins) Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Hannebery, Liberatore, B Crouch, Mills, Oliver, (Petracca,Beech,R Davis) Martin, Gawn (Cox) Martin,,Dahlhaus,,Barlow,,Wells,,Kerridge,,Brown (Kommer,,Skinner)

Sean · 18/03/2016 at 16:58

Who has more upside community

De goey or D Menzel?

Chris · 19/03/2016 at 10:55

Hi all just wanted to get some feedback and thoughts on current team.

Defence, b.smith, m.suckling, j,wintering, b.whitecross, m.brown (m.hartley, t,rugged)
P.dangerfield, s,pendlebury, g,ablett, d, sheil, o.wines,
T.liberator, b,crouch,c.mills. (b.keays, r.davis, a.marcon)
Naitanui, Gawn (grimly)
D.martin, m.barlow, t.greene, d.wells, j.simpkin, s.kerridge
(m.adams, a.mcdonald-tipungwati)

What do you think, still waiting on crouch, also rookies rd1

Jye · 19/03/2016 at 13:16

Hey guys, got a league that needs filling up. Here's the code: 121211

Gilly · 19/03/2016 at 15:35

I'm going goldstein with grimley as an R2 and hoping he can average around the 50 mark for the first 7 or so rounds which hopefully brings him to 300k, then planning to trade him up to a Martin or Gawn. Is this a good idea?

skate or die · 20/03/2016 at 14:55

does anyone think Travis Varcoe, will have supercoach relevance this year?

Shannan · 23/03/2016 at 11:03

One more person needed for my supercoach league! 929130 join! 😀

Richard · 24/03/2016 at 05:45

Hey jock, would you mind checking out my team.
I'm trying to make a heap of money to start the run mid bye. Maybe if I'm lucky win 4 games along the way to extra fire power come second half to sneak me into finals.Providing they all start!

J johannisen T sherridan t ckenzie
J weitering m dea m hartely (m brown m adams)

J selwood d shiel m crouch
T libba j simkin c oliver
G hewett r davis (c mills d parish s kerridge)

N natinui m gawn grimley

A hall m deboer d menzel
d wells c menadue a mcdonald-t ( b kennedy c petrenca)

Have i left myself to much to do and are there a couple of blokes that would be better off beong left out for a premium on the rise
Money not a worry

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