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Jock’s 2016 Cheat Sheet

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I’ve bailed myself up in the bungalow to craft this final version of the cheat sheet for the season.

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Michael

Great stuff Jock!
This is currently my team, version 2865 haha but I think I am set in terms of who my premiums, mid pricers and PODs
Def: Shaw, Laird, Birchall, Dea, Byrne-Jones, Broad (Hartley, Adams)
Mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Liberatore, Wells, Mills (Gresham, Keays, Davis)
Ruc: Goldstein, Naitanui (Wyatt)
Fwd: Barlow, Greene, Hall, Kennedy, Menadue, Kerridge (Brown, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

BigM

LOL
Oh yes so many versions
I to think…. am set on premiums, is just those couple of mids and final decision on rookies

TRIGGER HAPPY

Fantastic work Jock. Always deliver.

Speaking of which:

How do I go about posting a link on your website?

I have put together a table of every nab cup supercpoach score with disposal efficiency, time on ground, supercoach score expanded by time on ground etc that I would like to share with the community. As I think it would help as if you look at a SC score and go wow they didn't score much but if they only spent 30% on ground when rounded out to 100% TOG then it looks much better. Granted I know no one spends 100% TOG but for this exercise it is at least a good comparison tool.

Can you let me know how I post a link or send me an email that I can send it to so Jock can post it to share with the community?

Thanks

The EggMan

For large plums only, join this league
HairDownStair 713423

CrackersFC

Jock and Team, you magnificent bastards!!

Nypsies

Great work Jock
Please rate my team:

Def: Laird, JJ, Lonergan, Weitering, Dea, Brown (Adams, Ruggles)
Mid: Fyfe, Danger, Gaz, Rocky, Wines, Libba, BCrouch, Mills (Mendue,Keys,Davis)
Ruck: Goldy, Max (Wyatt)
Fwd: Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Grimley, AMT)

$88k leftover

mitch

how do you feel about Wayno Milera jock? and the big man Zorks?

mark

mileras in my team

Jimmy

wouldnt be a bad pick, would just be cautious about charlie cameron and riley knight coming back from injury, could effect his spot in the side

Norgy

Awesome job Jock.
Would love some feedback on my team.
Defence: Shaw, Laird, J Lonergan, Dea, Broad, (Collins, McDonald-Tipungwuti)
Midfield: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Priddis, Cripps, Liberatore, Mills, Menadue, (Hewett, Hibberd, Davis)
Ruck: S Martin, Gawn, (Cox)
Forwards: D Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, (Grimley, Adams)

Norgy

$80k left over

Hawker

This team is seriously quality

rowdz

Not really, Will be hard to win playing 1 short in backline every week

Norgy

Cheers lads. Only question mark is maybe Cripps to Rocky and Priddis to Pendles.

Josh

Go with rocky leave priddas though week in week out he will do his job

Ian

Pick 1 in Supercoach Draft. Who do you take? Gazza, Fyfe, Goldy?

PJ8

Danger

Rod

Goldy by a mile!

@randomcliche

Fyfe

SCaddict

I was in that position myself and snapped up Goldy without hesitation.

Then use your next couple of picks on the snake configuration rebound drafting at least one elite mid if not two.

Ian

Cheers. what's the snake config??

Ian

Sorry, ignore that other comment, i see what you mean now. Any other tips? cheers

The EggMan

just having a play, but what about a totally different angle in the midfield rather than the cookie cutter. what about this with the idea of 'underpriced' in mind and 'early cash generation' with quick early trades to pick off what ever 'premo' falls first & when they fall…

mid; priddis, sidebum, shiel, parker, m.duncan, j.kelly, libba, b.crouch (mills, petracca, r.davis)

completely different from what I think I will take in, just trying to throw up a different option altogether… too risky?

PJ8

Midfield full of PODs. Is a risk, could go one way or another. On one hand you could be a genius and be ranked no.1 overall but on the other could be a long way back overall very quickly.

Kev

Admire that you're thinking outside the box, mate. A lot of trading to do to get a full premium midfield by the byes. Could pay off if all goes right, in my experience, it rarely does

The EggMan

absolutely agree!
but if say any of fyfe/pendles/ablett/danger have one bad game, say drop by 50k, and any of the selected have a blinder and increase by 50k, a quick trade could make a quick 100k gain..? but are there enough trades..?

The Ranger

It's the trade that counts EggMan….what price do you put on a trade?
It's always a tricky question.
Every year I contemplate doing something similar and have never had the plums to try it!

Team Piz

Yeah do it Egg! See how it turns out son!

azza

hey guys, one of my friends want some advice/feedback on his team. Any help will be appreciated>

Def: Shaw,rich,johanissen,t.sheridan,dea,AMT (Adams,Hartley)

Mid:Dangerfield,ablett,Hannerbery,L.Hunter,M.crouch,libba,mills,parish (greesham,hewett,davis)

Ruck:martin,gawn,(grimely)

Fwd: zorko,barlow,hall,wells,menadue,kerridge (b.kennedy,petracca)

He also has 250k left to make changes once the season starts, if any of the midpricers flop

Thanks guys

@randomcliche

Zorko? Suspended round 2.
Hunter? Would take B crouch or B Gibbs if cash okay
Parish? Not particularly good preseason. Oliver perhaps.
Get another uber premo in ya mids

rosco72

I don't mind it, Zorko to Robinson and use that 250k to upgrade Hunter.

Dean

You dont have M Brown from Essendon in your defence or forward he is a MUST have cheap rookie, maybe consider changing Menadue to M Brown.

Pi$$ hunter off and bring in a Fyfe, Pendles, Priddis and Rockliff

To keep cash in the bank only stops you from generating points spend the money to make the best possible team mate.

The Ranger

No Zac Dawson on the cheat sheet Jock?!

Wattsieesq

Um, that Derek's joke. I hope you gave him royalties for using it : )

Derek

He is very akwardly priced………

he is the only player i know who has ended every season at a lower price than he started the season…every season.

Derek

next year he will be rookie priced!

Sarah

I think James Gwilt would be a better pick. A good veteran presence in the Ess backline.

CarlaShirley

Ok guys & girls my team is up at last but rookies will change

R.Laird, K.Simpson, J.Bartel, D.Rich, M.Hartley, K. Collins (Tipung… T.Ruggles)

P.Danger, S.Pendlebury, G.Ablett, D.Shiel, T.Rockliff, T.Liberatore, B.Crouch, B.Kennedy (J.Gresham, D.Gore, R.Davis)

T.Goldthing, M.Gawn (M.Cox)

M.Barlow, T.Green, A.Hall, W.Milera, S.Kerridge, C.Petracca (S.Grimley, M.Brown)

Holty

like it. going deeper in that backline certainly helps.

SCaddict

I'll be running with a Barlow/Greene/Hall forward line as well.

But I reckon you should reconsider skipping on Wells. Hasn't put a foot wrong in the NAB and looks ready to roll. Less than $70K up from Milera too.

I also like that Laird and Simmo are your lynch pins in defence. I expect both to be very reliable performers this season.

Liam

How's your team looking SC ? Would love to get a look.

SCaddict

I will be revealing all very soon Liam.

Just typing up a bit of a spiel about philosophy and strategy on how I intend to approach Supercach 2016 atm which I'll then copy and paste into the comments section of one of the upcoming articles here.

So just keep reading Jock's articles and there's no way you will miss it. 🙂

Derek

can't wait.

SCaddict

You have to build suspense Derek.

I look forward to your full dissection as you rip it to shreds although there's no way you'll be able to talk me into Lobbe at R2. 🙂

Liam

Cheers Addict, look forward to it.

Wattsieesq

Great team. One of the best I've seen going around. Goodluck for the season ahead

WoodySpoon

While Ruggles might be a good option we prob won’t know until it’s too late. He’ll probably be named on an extended interchange, but as Cats are not playing till Monday they won’t name the team for sure until it’s too late to pick anyone else if he doesn’t make the team.
Bit of an issue for Geelong rooks.

Dean

Nice balanced side Carla, with a very interesting POD selection by not going with Mills, Dea & Wells which most have including myself. It's interesting how you chose to spend quite allot in defence. I actually was thinking of ways to go lighter in my defence, however your defence is so much stronger then mine, although that does not concern me.
Every season it proves that defence is the HARDEST position to chose quality defenders that are keepers even when spending $500k – The only true premo each season seems to be Shaw other then him its a lottery.

This is my side
Rance, Laird, D.Rich, Dea, M Brown, Broad (Hartly, Collins)

Fyfe, Danger, Pendlebury, GAJ, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Kerridge (Gresham, Petracca, Davis)

Goldy, Gawn (Wyatt)

Wingard, Gunston, Barlow, Wells, Kennedy, Adams (S.Grimley, AMT)

Am strongly considering to pi$$ petracca off and chose another rookie as Patracca may not be back until round 4 or 5 – Every season we trade cull a under preforming rookie to bring in a better Rookie – Could this be a wise move that may pay off. Think I most likely will NOT be starting with Patracca for this reason.

However that being said I really like your side.

Deccas

Magnificent Jock cant split either Shiel or Gray at M4. Thoughts?

Alex

Goldstein/M.Adams/Rook 117-123k
Or
Nic Nat/Weithering/C.Menadue

Alex

Also if you could give me some suggestions to who that FWD rookie may be already have brown/tiputiwungu.

greg

hunt is 123K, id go option one personally

Phil

Option 1 with Papley (subject to selection). If not option 1 with anyone, even Kommer. Moral of the story, just get Goldy

JJB

Crowley v's Oliver (Crowley 4.5K cheaper ??

Crowley – more game time / mature body

Thoughts

Andrew

Thanks in advance.

T.Greene-Priddis combo (This would mean Greene, Barlow, Hall)

or

D.Martin- M.Duncan combo

Dan

I would say Greene and Priddis. I feel dusty might be a bit up and down this year with personal problems. Not sold on Duncan either.

Vinny

I have been waiting for this for a very long time! Yay!

Fotios

Nice work Jock!

Here is my team .. No Dusty, Pendles or Rockliff to begin with.

DEF: Shaw, Gibson, Sheridan, Weitering, Dea, M.Adams (Hartley, Ruggles)

MID: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Priddis, P.Cripps, Libba, Mills, B.Kennedy (R.Davis, Keays, Hewett)

RUCK: Goldy, Gawn (M.Cox)

FWD: Barlow, Buddy, A.Hall, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Menadue, Tipaungwuti)

Hawker

Very nice POD's in that mix, my only concern is Gibson who will be playing on the 2nd tall forward now Lake is gone which will drastically reduce his scoring output. Expect very inconsistent scores from him. Better options at that price

Fotios

Cheers Hawker! Who would you recommend instead of Gibson?

WoodySpoon

Just saw Buddy down the local AFL kids club training. He looks fit. Could be a great selection if the rain holds off for more of his games than not.

CarlaShirley

Damn hard to put in rooks that are at that 170-210k range when its killing our premium selections on all lines.

Only selected one rookie at this price range but then i feel like the real cheap ones this year are mostly frail ones.

Dean

It does seem that way this season but do remember those high priced rookies Re: Weitering, Francis, Dea, Parish, Mills, Kennedy, Oliver, Crowley, Hopper, Hipwood, Milera, Ah Chee, Curren. then need to Average so much more in order to generate cash.

I'm going in with Mills & maybe Dea the rest im just refusing to buy into coz they usually make you very little cash generation only one out of them will turn out to be 75% as good as Cripps or one might just end up being the next Cripps however the odds of you selecting that 1 out of 13 odd is very risky.

However I know exactly were your coming from.

HallyM8

Which 2 of Sam Gray, Aaron Hall and Toby Greene?

Blues_16

I think it depends on who you see as a keeper or a cash generator. If you are talking about reliable scores and top 10 forwards I think Greene is best option, Gray 2nd, Hall 3rd. IMO Greene is the only one with a chance of being a keeper.

Derek

none will be top 10, therefore not keepers. Which will make more cash, probably the cheapist.

Steeeve

I think one of the three will finish top 10, just need to decide which one! I've got Hall at the moment. He could cement himself in the guts leaving Swallow and OMeara rotating off flanks when they come back. Gray will start well but can't see him getting much midfield time. Greene is a total wildcard, I'm not playing it.

Marc

thoughts on my current lineup appreciated –

DEF – Laird, KK, Docherty, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Adams)
MID – Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Rockliff, Libba, M Crouch, Mills, B Kennedy (Menadue, Gore, Davis)
RUCKS – Nic Nat, Gawn (cox)
FWD – Barlow, Z Merrett, Greene, A Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Grimley, McDonald-Tipu)

cheers

JDP

Thoughts on McGovern v Rich??
Cheers

4rm

McGov for me, reads the ball well and will take contested marks in defence. Can swing up forward and kick a goal or 3. His form last year was injury affected with his shoulder and still scored well. Rich seems to always promise but has failed to deliver. Rich may prove me wrong and has found it tough coming back from a serious injury, but was he ever that good?

Nypsies

What are everyones thoughts on Treloar???

Dan

Have a squiz at my team ladies and gents, tell me what you think.

DEF:
SHAW, HOULI, LAIRD, SUCKLING, DEA, KOLLINS, Hartley, Broad

MID:
DANGERFIELD, LORD GARY, R. GRAY, ROCKLIFF, WINES, B. CROUCH, MILLS, MENADUE, Gresham, Hewett, Davis

RUC:
NAITANUI, GAWN, Grimley

FWD:
BARLOW, S. GRAY, HALL, WELLS, B. KENNEDY, KERRIDGE, Petracca, McDonald-Tipungwuti

I feel comfortable with my POD's and similarly to the humble Higgo, I have my POD being also my lack of selections. I feel Fyfe is too expensive and won't play 22 rounds, he will also have a kip up forward every now and again. $650k for a Lyon coached player, even a champion is just too much for me, I'd love him though. I just feel he may be top 10 Avg, and maybe even overall too, but is not worth the money. I am also a little wary of Pendlebury in a chockers Collingwood midfield. Don't get me wrong, I want him, but I think he is overs. Wines and Gray are somewhat risky PODs to pick for keeper status but I feel not selecting Libba allows me to avoid a sideways trade and allow me to downgrade one or possibly paint the fence if both flop. I can't see that happening this year, Port will be hungry and they will drive each other to perform. I think Gray will go ultra premium this year. I think for the same mark, Hannerbery, Mundy and JPK etc are all overpriced and risky (with the exception of maybe Priddis, but he handballs too much), and at the very least, I can see Wines averaging similar to the likes of JPK who will also get rested up front. Wines is a contested angry bull, he sees the red pill and is hungry for it. He gets cleaner every year. There has been little talk of the new sub rotation rules. I feel Port Adelaide players are pretty suited to a lack of rotation to complemet their decent draw. The same can be said about the price for the ilk of top defenders and forwards as with midfields, with the exclusion of Shaw. I think there are more solid options, even if they are starting F2 or 3 they may end up F6 however it is most economical to pick them up now rather than later. I would consider Hall an example of a likely keeper, that may be down one or two spots higher in peoples forward structures come the end of season. The only other exception I feel is Zorko. Especially without Beams to run amuck. I feel points are being wasted starting with him though, like I said, why not start the likes of Sam Gray at F2 instead of F3 with designs to bring Zorko in early, or when he's cheaper, when he's actually playing. I haven't selected Bartel because he will get rested in a competitive Geelong, and if he doesn't he will injure himself, or run around buggered playing lazy footy, dropping his DE and pill count. I have chosen Suckling over the likes of JJ, KK and Rich, who many are running with at D3/4. He will switch roles a lot but I am not concerned. I think a freshly rebuilt, fairly young WBD side will suit him strongly and he may get a bit more freedom to kick that deadly left. I think he's good for efficiency, score and score involvement as well as the intercept mark and tackle, I can't see him being tagged much either if I am honest, not can I see him in a key defensive role. At 396k I think he will make a fine D6. I'm not overly concerned about Yarren impacting Houli's scoring. I looked at him closely last year and think he's priced right. Dea is a lock, as is Weit but I haven't gone him because of his price. I think 220k is a lot to fork out for a débutante, even if he was a fancy draft pick. The kid can and will play, just over priced for the risk for mine. Crouch and Sam Gray are my biggest risks. I feel both have potential to be keepers at the bottom end of their respective lines. Gray is a gun and will continue his form from the back half of last year and the NAB into the season proper. He might drop off and I don't expect NAB like performance every week, but I think he will be a top FWD this year. Crouch is also a gun and he is going to thrive without danger mouse hogging the possessions. I think he is a more likely keeper than Libba who will likely be managed or will personally take it easy recovering from an ACL. My final POD selection/lack of selection is, Naitanui/Goldy. Goldstein will be number 1 ruckman most likely. However, I can see Nic Nat outdoing the likes of Sauce and Martin and challenging Goldy for that spot. He is a freak. I feel he is underpriced and Goldy is overpriced. Remember guys, 600k players are safer picks then 500k or midprice picks, but they're human beings, they get injured, have slumps, get rested. Goldstein is just too expensive. The same goes for Lids and Fyfe etc. Last but not least is a lack of Dusty Martin. He will have a mental health struggle niggling at him. Everybody has different coping strategies. Some people rise above adversity and others succumb to it. I want to wait and see, especially after his NAB form. Feel I can pick him up cheaper if he is in fact a keeper this year as with the rest of notable absentees such as Fyfe etc. Thoughts community?

Cheers, Dan

Keenbutclueless

Brilliantly thought out strategy for a team. Well done! The only thing that I would question is having three Port midfielders. Are you not competing against yourself a bit? For S Gray to get points, you would think he would have to take points off someone else. Given his emergence lady year was in Wines absence, are you completely convinced they are not fighting for the same points? Or are you thinking Ebert and Boak will fall? Also, what effect will Polec have on S Gray points?

Dan

I think Hinkley will look for run a lot, especially with the capped rotation. I'm not overly concerned about Ebert taking possessions or midfield time. I just think this year, people are panicking about midfield time a lot with more cheaper players, but are forgetting the new rotation rules will mean a lot of 600k players might get rested up front. This means more midfield time for everybody else. I think Port will look to compete for a spot in the top four and would be bitterly disappointed to not make the 8. I feel Boak might get a rest every now and again, as with R Gray. Regardless I think S Gray is in front of Ah Chee for mid time, and may establish himself in front of the likes of Polec. No doubt he will play across half forward and maybe up in the pockets too a lot, but I think Hinkley will love him and the fresh legs in the middle. Some one said he is reminiscent of R Gray before he broke out and established himself as a midfield monolith. I'm not sure S Gray can live up to that, but I think this year he's good for a few sausage rolls and will collect his own pill in the middle. Not concerned too much with Polec etc because those guys don't collect the pill themselves as much and seem to line up outside the square, rather than in the middle. I have considered the likes of Priddis, Cripps and Greene as possible non PA players. I am happy to have Gray and Wines in the middle too. Out of all the options I have considered for their respective spot in my structures, I keep coming back to all three port players as my preferred. Regardless what team they are in I am comfortable they can share the points and get to top 10 status. Deledio and Martin are prime examples of two top tier players in the same line. I know their roles differ but it just goes to show.

Sarah

Ah Chee is definitely in front of Sam Gray. Port need another big bodies midfielder not a midget!

Dan

I reckon Boak and Thighs got that covered and I still back Sam to come up field a bit if he's half forward and get his own ball, even if he loses out on midfield time.

Jye

Yeah he'll play mainly forward I reckon mate and pinch hit in the midfield. During NAB boaky and Robbie were getting eased into it and didn't play heaps in the middle. Still a good option but plenty ahead of him to play midfield

Dan

No doubt, I reckon he's still good enough without heaps of mid time to accumulate points anyway though.

Itchy balls

OMG Dan…..are you writing a book?

Dean

NOW thats what I call a bloody thesis, i kept reading the same lines and less then half way I just gave up.

However saying that nice write up and thanks for sharing your well in depth thoughtssssssssssssssssssssssssss, however I don't like your selection of having 3 possible Port keepers. I also think Hewett will struggle to make swans top 22 and when your paying such a high price for a rookie that will hurt.

I also don't understand how you can spend $600+k on Shaw in defence yet you don't want to spend it on Fyfe, Pendles, Priddis and the likes where that is where all the points come from. I personally believe you're reading to much into the less rotation rule and it is going to cause you to play catch up which never works if your aim is to WIN 50k albeit a 200,000 to 1 chance.

However good luck mate.

Holty

this seems to be a very well thought out side and like how you have backed it up with your reasoning. no point really giving much of a opinion as you have answered most of them already. Will ask one though.
* Why do you think Bartel will be rested? Have you decided this personally or just listening to what everyone else is saying?

Dan

I think he will be nurtured for finals. He's old, not as aerobically capable as the younger players perhaps, and definitely more susceptible to injury. Geelong are looking to make a mark this year, they need Bartel to be right for late in the season and finals. If I started him I would be very happy with him playing 18+ games. He might well do, just think he's risky for mine.

Derek

they need Bartel to get to the finals. geelong is about 6-8th side.

Dan

Yeah so I don't expect him to trot out against the likes of Carlton and Essendon etc.

Blues_16

Awesome explanation mate and I think you have described what makes this year so tough.
Your backs look strong and won't need much upgrading with 3 keepers (hopefully).
IMO though, I think you only have a maximum of 10 keepers overall.
You say you are concerned about how they manage the return of Libba, and rule out Martin and Wells for similar "management" reasons.
You don't seem to have the same concerns about how they manage GAJ, Rocky and Crouch?? I certainly do!
I also want Petracca but he is also coming off an injury and won't play till round 3. Do we keep him in for loophole value (I think I will) as we don't want downgrade targets at R3 or 4?
I also agree with R Gray and NicNat, I think they both go superpremo this year.
Good luck this year, great to see your thoughts

Dan

I don't think Martin will get managed, his dad will be on his mind is what concerns me. Gary is a lock no matter how many games he plays, the risk in not selecting him would be insane. The same goes for Rocky, and hes even cheaper. The other options i woukd consider at his price would be Parker or Shiel, maybe Ward. He's tbe only proven one among them. Fyfe is a different story because of his price. I heard that about Petracca but I think his job security overall looks better than most other rd 1 contenders not in my side at the present.
Like I said, Crouch is probably one of the more prominent risks. He's too good to turn up at $300k though, especially minus Dangerfield, I think this will only let the man shine. Not too concerned I haven't seen him play NAB. Think I heard he was training well on here somewhere. He's at the very least a stepping stone to a fallen premo come bye time. Thanks for your thoughts too mate, appreciated.

Blues_16

Good luck mate

Phil

Good write up but you lost me when you said you're picking Suckling instead of Bartel. I reckon Bartel is better value for money than Suckling despite being more expensive. Time will tell, but I reckon Suckling is a little overrated and has benefitted from being in such a successful team. Bartels a Brownlow medalist

Dan

I didn't, I picked him over JJ and Sheridan and Rich, Hurn etc. I have Laird D3, most people have Bartel there. He's a champion, I think his injury and management risk is too much to pick for a keeper.

@footy_bec

I like your team.. I think your biggest risk is having 4 midfielders coming off injuries. With the exception of Ablett who is a superfreak, I think the likes of Crouch who has not played in the AFL for a long time, SANFL doesn't count is a risk. Even Wines is taking some time to readjust with severe cramping against Richmond and he's got a few games under his belt. Rockcliff is still under an injury cloud too. Just some thoughts to add to yours.

Dan

Yeah I am a bit worried, but I feel most people will be starting all or most out of GAJ, Rockliff and/or Libba, and I've seen Wines making his way into more and more teams too. Safety in numbers I feel.

Dice

Who will score more Naitanui or Gawn?

Keenbutclueless

If you are looking at total points, then I see it as Natanui 20 games x 105 = 2100. Assume Grimley for 2 games x 40. Total 2180. Gawn a little less reliable, but higher scoring. Say 18 games x 110 = 1980 Plus Grimley 4 x 40 = 2160. So, maybe Jacobs 22 x 100 = 2200 is the best value. If you can get better cover than Grimley, say a Tippett or Sinclair in the back half of the season, maybe these numbers change a little.

Jobesbrownlow

Shiel or Rockliff?

Keenbutclueless

Potential versus Proven. Both had injury concerns last year, but Rockliff persistent niggles starting to sow seeds of doubt. Will Shiel benefit from Treloar missing, or will he attract more attention? Beams missing help Rocky? Maybe yes if fit. Can see the case for both, but I am inclined towards Rockliff

Redgumwon

I'm having serious doubts on Rocky and his fitness. I can see him playing up forward more. As he's played no NAB Challenge games and his match fitness isn't there as yet. Then when Beams comes back I can still see Rocky spending more of his time forward rather than in the midfield.

Shiel I thought was racking up the numbers last year before injury. I can see him really having a break out year this year and to continue to pump out the big scores. For that reason I've gone with Shiel ahead of Rocky.

rick

thoughts?
shaw, houli, laird, sheridan, dea, hartely (Adams & McDonald-Tipungwuti)
fyfe, danger, gaj, rocky, libba, mills parish, kerridge (gore, petracca, davis)
martin, gawn (korchek)
dusty, barlow, hall, menzel, wells, milera (kennedy, m brown)

SCaddict

As Jock alluded to on his cheat sheet Rocky did the ole proverbial and trained the house down today.

So for those of you who were getting cold feet and toying with the idea of skipping out on him this season I reckon you should pump those brakes.

He's one of the few guys in the comp who can truly burn you for NOT picking him with his humongous ceiling.

The Ranger

He's been in and out of my M5 about ten times this week already!
He burnt me pretty bad last year SC……it's hard to go back to the flame!

The Ranger

…but then I look at OldOckers spreadsheet and see those numbers again….

Holty

Hi Ranger
What is this spreadsheet?

The Ranger

Hey Holty, go here…
http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2016/02/25/old-ock

…and then hail the legend that is OldOcker for providing us with the best pre season research tool known to man.

Holty

this is true. ill be starting him myself. I guess the other argument is he was reported to be training the house down a bit over a week ago but pulled out of the last NAB game due to a tight hammy. If he was 600k, i wouldnt be starting him over the likes of Priddis and JPK due to the injury concerns.

SCaddict

Gaz has me a little more concerned Holty.

Still yet to return to full training with the main group with the bung toe but the Rocksta is locked and loaded in Addicts!

Blues_16

Neither for me, lots of value this year and no need to take risks on injury management… just our standard guesses/gambles.

SCaddict

But you need to appreciate that not picking players like Rocky and Gaz is taking a gamble too, albeit of a different kind, as they can really burn you when they are on song and your league opponents are reaping monstrous captain scores that you aren't.

So I reckon it's fallacious reasoning to think you are necessarily reducing your risk levels by not picking them. You better hope they do collapse in a heap, or you will very likely pay a steep price if they don't, as a lot coaches will have them and your ranking could quickly spiral down the loo!

It's a risk either way you go I'm afraid which is what is keeping me up late at night right now. These are just the sorts of decisions that can decide your fate early in a Supercoach season 😉

The Ranger

One risk I can live with but two is pushing it so at the moment Gaz is in and Rockliff is out.
Of course that could change by the time the first game comes around!

Luke

Which two players should I get to go alongside barlow at F1, out of

Robinson and Sinclair
or
Greene and Hall?

Norgy

Greene and Hall

rosco72

Robbo and Hall

Tom McV

Thoughts?
Def- R.Laird, J.Gibson, J.Bartel, J.Weitering, M.Dea, M.Hartley (M.Brown, T.Ruggles)

Mid- P.Dangerfield, G.Ablett, A.Gaff, T.Rockliff, O.Wines, J.Viney, T.Liberatore, C.Mills (D.Gore, R.Davis, D.McPherson)

Ruck- S.Jacobs, M.Gawn (C.Loersch)

Fwd- D.Martin, M.Barlow, A.Hall, D.Wells, S.Kerridge, C.Petracca (L.McCarthy, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti)

$5300 in bank

VEX

thoughts on Tom Cutler?

Derek

i have been thinking about him alot, he just doesn't make the team on account he won't be a keeper and won't make as much cash as dea.

i read an article back in january about how he might be the goto man when it comes to running the ball out of defence as he such a good long kick.

LHMORWOOD

$117, 000 left. any thoughts of what should change or be added?

DEF:
Shaw. Laird. Johannisen.
Weitering. Dea. Byrne-Jones
(Brown (Ess) & Hartley

MID:
Fyfe. Dangerfield. Ablett.
Rockliff. Liberatore. Mills.
Kennedy. (Melb) Menadue.
(Gresham. Hewett and Davis)

RUCK:
Goldstein. Gawn.
(Grimley)

FWD:
Martin. Barlow. Hall.
DeGoey. Wells. Kerridge.
(McCarthy & McDT)

Keenbutclueless

You look like you have 10/11 genuine keepers 4/5 midpricers and 7 rookies on field. Libba the floater. There are no rules, but conventional wisdom says minimum of 12 keepers. So possibly you are one short. In my opinion I would look to get De Goey up to a keeper.

LHMORWOOD

I feel that De Goey will be a good POD up forward. I believe its my midfield that might be a bit too weak.

Dan

Downgrade De Goey to a rook and upgrade Weitering to a keeper.

@noahcavanagh

Thoughts?
Def- Houli, Liard, Johansien, Sherdian, Weitering, Dea (hartley, Brown)
Mid- Fyfe, Danger, Gaz, Rockliff, Liberator, B.Crouch, Mills, Kerridge (Menadue, Gresham, Mathieson)
Ruck- Martin, Gawn(Wyatt)
Fwd- Barlow, Gray, Hall, De Goey, Wells, Milera(McCarthy, Tippa)
Bank:$3,800
Mathieson probs end up as davis or someone else currently unsure

Keenbutclueless

Rock solid. S Gray and Hall at F2 and F3 carry some risk. But probably a risk worth taking

Nick

Best mid price option out of graham, Matt crouch, Brad crouch and de goey

Derek

only one i would consider is brad.

SCaddict

Yes Matty has 'February Flyer' written all over him I reckon although Jock appears sold.

I intend to roll the dice on Brad if named.

Also kind of partial to De Goey who's been in and out of my side but I no longer can accommodate him.

Jobesbrownlow

Brad Crouch

Ren

Houli and Gresham

or

Lonergan and Crouch

Jobesbrownlow

Houli and Gresham.

Rob

Thoughts on my team.

BACK: Houli, KK, Johannisen, WEitering, Dea, Bonner ( Hartley, Ruggles)

MID: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rockliff, Cripps, Libba, Mills, Gresham ( Gore, Petracca, MacPherson)

RUCK: Martin, Smith ( Grimley)

FWD: Lids, Barlow, Franklin, Hall, Wells, Kerridge ( Brown, Galluci)

I have 7K left over any suggestions will be helpful.

Dan

Maybe scrap Franklin or Lids and invest in your back line.

Aaron

Fyfe or Danger

Paul

That's a win/win there. Fyfe less popular this year, make of that what you will.

Dan

Danger

Pavos

Goldstein/Mennadue
Or
Nic Nat/Weithering

Really need help community

Keenbutclueless

Depends on your plans for the 80k you save on option 2

Blues_16

Highlights how hard this year is… I have all 4 – great set/forget rucks, 2 great cash generators in terms of JS

Tret

Deledio or Dusty?

Itchy balls

neither

Jobesbrownlow

Both

Itchy balls

lol

Sam

Great work as always Jock.
Looking for some thoughts and comments of any type on version 2000 of my squad.
DEF: H.Shaw, R.Laird, J.Weitering, M.Dea, M.Brown, M.Adams (C.Adamson, T.Ruggles)

MID: N.Fyfe, P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, G.Ablett, T.Rockliff, T.Liberatore, C.Mills, B.Kennedy (C.Petracca, J.Dunkley, R.Davis)

RUCK: T.Goldstein, Z.Smith (S.Grimley)

FOR: M.Barlow, K.Tippet, S.Gray, A.Hall, D.Wells, C.Menadue (S.Kerridge, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti)

hedski

Really struggling to pick between Wines and Duncan. Duncan probably a bit more of a POD.
Any ideas?

Paul

Duncan is a star….genuine elite midfielder.

hedski

Cheers guys. Duncs will go off with a bit more grunt in the mids I think. Elite kick. Love Ollie but to tough for he's own good. Either way they're good picks.

Phillip

Do I choose Menadue and approx 50k or Oliver?

Itchy balls

Menadue

richie

Would love someone to rate my team!

DEF: A. Rance, KK, B. Smith, J. Weitering, M. Dea, (M. Hartley, K. Collins)

MID: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, G. Ablett, R. Gray, T. Rockliff, Libba, C. Mills, C. Menadue (C. Petracca, B. Keays, R. Davis)

RUCK: T. Goldstein, NicNat

FWD: D. Martin, M. Barlow, A. Hall, B. Kennedy, S. Kerridge (M.Mcgovern, Tippa)

This is what im rocking atm (rookies subject to change until rd 1 teams are announced). everything is pretty settled but considering swapping out dea for a bottom price rookie thats named rd 1 ( eg broad/ruggles) and then bringing in pendles for robbie gray, and laird for KK. Would love to hear which team would be better

Feel like this is the year to pick up as many super premos in the mids with the lack of bottom price mid cash cows, but pretty reliable cash cows in both def and fwd lines

Kev

Reckon you could get away with dropping Dea, Richie. Your D1-5 all have good js imo

BigBoyMcevoy

I reckon you could adjust some of your rookies especially petracca as the rest of the squad is solid

Itchy balls

Is a Steele a good option as F3?

SCaddict

I think he could be but I would still favour De Goey at that price point. Although reckon either would be more ideally situated at F4 with Wells at F5 but I guess you could get it to work at F3 if you had to.

Btw are you any relation to Itchy Nuts Pieman?

Itchy balls

Ok thanks mate. No relation

Blues_16

Agree, no higher than F4

@emhoy

No Broad he played every nab cup game and with the tigers injuries surley is a lock

SCaddict

I like him too emhoy and actually have him on my field right now but there are only so many names you can squeeze into a quick little cheat sheet.

Krups

Going for a risky POD: J Selwood

Fourbells

Thinking the same. Smashed it the other year without any pre season. Will ton up against the hawks

Derek

can you have both danger & Selwood?

Selwood is having a run with the VFL team tomorrow, lets see how he goes.

Krups

I will be having both

Holty

not sure how Selwood is risky but surprisingly he will be a POD this year. and a very good one at that.

KKP

Rich, McGuv or Jimmy as D3?

Itchy balls

Rich

Krups

Rich

SCaddict

Bartel is worth the extra coin I feel, even if he's the forgotten man around these parts.

Southern S

McGuv, Bartel, Rich in that order.

The Mountian

Looking at my completed team hopefully (rookies subject to change until rd 1 teams are announced).

DEF: Shaw, Laird, JJ, J. Weitering, M. Dea, M. Hartley (Brown, Broad)

MID: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, G. Ablett, J.Steven, T. Rockliff, Libba, C. Mills, Gresham (C. Petracca, G.Hewett, R. Davis)

RUCK: T. Goldstein, Martin (Chol)

FWD: M. Barlow, Green, A. Hall, Wells, B. Kennedy, S. Kerridge (Grimley, Tippa)
Cheers

Leighroy

Wow nearly the same as my team 22 common players

Crowmagnon

I really liked the previous team you posted Mountain. You have swayed toward the mid pricer.

The Mountain

Which Team mate and which post was it under

Crowmagnon

Can't remember for sure mate. About a week ago. Was very guns and rookies.

Crowmagnon

BVC team reveal. Still love that team.

The Mountain

Yeah me to mate, but i felt i need to get some stronger rookies down back in weitering and dea so i had to cut pendles to steven and martin to greene

Crowmagnon

yeah, the cheap rookies don't fill me with confidence either.
Your team still looks really good and maybe a bit more rounded.
Best of luck mate.

The Mountain

Cheers mate

Vinny

Is it a bad option to choose H.Bennell over D.Martin?

Sarah

I'd rather Bennell as an upgrade target, not to start with. Would rather wait n see how he goes in Freo, big change from GC.

Phil

I reckon both are upgrades. Both have question marks. If I'm paying 550k+ for a forward (or defender) I don't want question marks.

Tret

so have people written of Brodie Smith?

Had problems the first 2 NAB games but fired well in the last

SCaddict

He should still be a reasonably popular selection although he doesn't particularly interest me given the emergence of Laird over the past 12 months.

To be fair all the guys we're picking at D3 or D4 have some sort of significant question mark hovering over them, so from that respect I guess he's as good as any other of the popular picks. But I'm saving the cash there having settled on McKenzie for my own squad.

Chill

in out in out. He's out at the moment but that could change. Such a tempting price.

Derek

the price is good. Is Laird $90k better than Smith? Thats about 20SC per week.

Chill

Nup. I think It's KK or Smith. They are who i have whittled down to.

Holty

Smith has lost his role where he has scored well in tbe past to Laird. He was concussed twice (i think) last year. once this starts happening, your chin is never the same. All he needs is another good bump and unfortunately i see him having a rest again. Its unfortunate as he was All Australian 2 years ago but i see him more as a liability.

Dice

One of my first picks Brodie Smith. I don't think we can write him off yet he's still young.
Fingers crossed he's all over last years injuries and interruptions.

I'm tossing up whether to have both Smith and Laird. It could wreck my year, or could put me right up there.
God i'm hoping they both play half back rotating on the ball