NAB ANALYSIS: Fremantle v Geelong

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Supercoach 2016 midpriced defendersTwo clubs hoping to be there at the pointy end of the season clashed today at Subiaco.

And boy what a clash it was. Geelong looked in complete control early in the game, but the Dockers kept chipping away until two supergoals broke the camel’s back.

In the searing heat, the cage fight between Dangerfield and Fyfe went off, with Danger scoring all the points early. They went head to head in the second and Danger came out on top, before Fyfe lifted in the last. Danger takes the cake today, though.

 Absent Best 22

Fremantle: Matt De Boer, Aaron Sandilands

Geelong: Joel Selwood, Scott Selwood, Daniel Menzel, Corey Enright, Mitch Clark


Injuries: Jimmy Bartel got a bonk on the head during the first and was taken off for a concussion test and didn’t come back on:


Nat Fyfe was heavily tagged by Mark Blicavs all day, and never looked to reach full match intensity. However, he is the Teen Wolf. Even with a ruckman hanging off him all day, he got the pill 26 times and was amongst it, and got especially busy in the last. He did spent minutes up forward, however.

The less noticed members of Fremantle’s midfield – David Mundy and Lachie Neale – were both excellent. Mundy went under 100 3 times from 22 games last year, and Neale had an explosive breakout year. I expect both to continue on last year’s form. Mundy had it 23 times and Neale 30.

Michael Barlow started forward but worked his way through the middle as the game wore on, and did nothing to suggest he shouldn’t be in our sides round 1. 27 disposals and six tackles sits him in my forward line.

The flavour of the week on Twitter at D3, Tommy Sheridan was impressive, with lots of uncontested kicks while rebounding off half back. He finished with 21 disposals, but smokie of a few teams in the comments section, Cameron Sutcliffe, collected more of the pill. He had it 24 times and looked more of the go-to man than Sheridan. However, both Garrick Ibbotson and Stephen Hill also strolled off half back in that rebounding role at times.

Harley Bennell was lively, switching between the midfield and forward. He will set some games alight this year, and is one to look out for in CoachKings. 17 possessions, a mark and 1.2. However, he unselfishly gave off two goals, which indicates he has a very different attitude over in the West.

Beyond that, Zac Clarke will be a good CoachKings pick when Sandilands is injured or suspended, but otherwise he – and most of the Freo’s side – share the points too much for my liking. Michael Walters another one I’d look at in the daily format. Oh, and Zac Dawson is an angry, angry human. It’s not relevant to fantasy footy because we don’t select potatoes, but I just noticed it.


I got exclusive footage of Patrick Dangerfield frolicking through the middle of Subiaco in the first half:


He had it 23 times in the first half and looked as slick as you can possibly look with a football in your hands. Kid in a candy shop. Lock. Him. In.

The other blokes in Geelong’s engine room paled in comparison. Mitch Duncan had it  times by halftime, and Josh Caddy  7. However, captain Joel Selwood is still to come back into that side.

The ruck situation down at Geelong is no closer to making any sense. Rhys Stanley opened up for the Cats in the centre square, had Nathan Vardy chop him out five minutes in, with Mark Blicavs occasionally leaving his hard tag on Nat Fyfe to go third man up. However, by midway through the first quarter, Zac Smith was in the backline going up in the ruck.

That ruckline is all over the place, and as much as I really, really want to take a gamble on Zac Smith, I don’t like buying into uncertainty. Smith and Stanley ended up splitting the ruck work 50/50 for the rest of the game, Smith ending with 12 touches and 17 hitouts, and Stanley 16 and 11.

Mark Blicavs stayed mostly out of the ruck, tagging Nat Fyfe for a large portion of the game. He still managed to peel off and collect his own ball 17 times. Buyer beware with Blicavs – he can, and will – play anywhere.

Naika Cockatoo solved the “do we start him” question by getting reported for a gnarly sling tackle which left Michael Johnson very groggy. On top of that, Lincoln McCarthy confirmed his place in my starting 22. He won’t be incredibly consistent as a small forward, but at 137k I’m happy to have him there. The Prez finished with 3 sausage rolls and 8 possies.

Rookie Tom Ruggles did his chances to be elevated in place of Jackson Thurlow no harm. He was busy in the first half and got among it. He was quieter as the game went on, finishing with 10 touches, but if he gets elevated and named he is an option for us. Josh Cowan is a 155k defender but not someone I’m looking at. On the fringe and not the most reliable in terms of Supercoach output.

Harry Taylor looked very solid across half-back, rebounding the ball 8 times. CoachKings option as he’ll have very good games, but I’d be inclined to skip him in the longer form. Lachie Henderson started forward before swinging back, but there are better options out there.

What did you see, community?


Liam · 12/03/2016 at 19:20

Great stuff as all ways Patch.

Would love to get your thoughts on De Goey.
I'm tossing up between Wells, Hall and him for my F3 and F4.

Cheers Liam

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:17

    He's definitely behind Wells, probably behind Hall.

    Liam · 12/03/2016 at 20:37

    Currently have Hall at F3. Should I drop him for De Goey and upgrade Collins to Weitering (D3) ?

      Mike · 12/03/2016 at 21:15

      No. Yes.

        Liam · 12/03/2016 at 21:25

        Yes drop him De Goey but no to Weitering ?

          Liam · 12/03/2016 at 21:25

          To De Goey**

Jaron · 12/03/2016 at 19:23

Do you think TRELOAR kiss now a lock?

    Maggi · 12/03/2016 at 19:44

    Not a lock, but will be a great pick.

'Don't Blush Babbie' · 12/03/2016 at 19:24

What price Danger for the Brownlow ? CKUF he looks good !

    'Don't Blush N · 12/03/2016 at 19:26

    Can't spell backwards, I'm sure you get my grift

    Mike · 12/03/2016 at 21:18

    It’s ‘The Land of Chocolate’ for him all year long.

Martin · 12/03/2016 at 19:27

What do you think of ceglar instead of lobbe?

    SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 20:00

    Ceglar will be fighting against Big Boy. My suggestion is no, but at the end of the day, its up to you.

      Martin · 12/03/2016 at 21:08

      any other cheaper options?

        Average Joe · 12/03/2016 at 22:12


James · 12/03/2016 at 19:29

Like your thoughts,

My current defense is Laird, Bartel, McKenzie, Weitering, Brown and Hartley.

After todays game I'm really tempted to bring in Johanassan for Bartel but am hesitant to do so. Bartel is a proven premo who is consistent but is long in the tooth. If I do bring in Johanisson it enables me to upgrade Parker to Hanners. My midfield would then run 4 deep with players over 600k plus Rocky, Shiel and Libba. Is this a worth while trade or is it better to stick with Bartel and Parker?

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:18

    Assuming that's the Cannon from Gold Coast at D3? He's a risk… is there any way you can find the 100k to go McKenzie to JJoh? Feel there won't be much splitting Parker and Hanners by season's end.

      James · 12/03/2016 at 22:38

      Thanks for the reply Patch,

      To make space I downgraded Mills in my midfield to Menadue which enabled me to go McKenzie up to Johanissen. Now have Laird, Bartel and Johanissen as my D1, 2 and 3. Will miss Mills though.

      Correct moves?

        Leeds17 · 13/03/2016 at 00:57

        Just my opinion but JJ seems like a trap.

        Bartel will leave a few sides before R1 keep him and he might even become POD stuff

    Grahame Lebroy · 13/03/2016 at 08:02

    Bartel is a clear no this year

@grayson_lowee · 12/03/2016 at 19:32

Great write up as always Patch, whats your thoughts on Greene vs Hall?

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 19:56

    I'm on team Hall. Greene's disposal efficiency isn't high enough for me, and he gives away lots of FAs. Also not sure how much mid time he'll get – reckon Devon Smith might be better in the guts.

josh · 12/03/2016 at 19:33

whos best do bring in at d3 Johnson, bartel,smith or johansion I currently have at d1 and d2 laird and kk

    SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 19:48

    Bartel or JJ

      josh · 12/03/2016 at 19:55

      do you think jj will average 80+ I think the preseason hype will haunt us

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 19:57

    JJ should give you 22 games so he's #1 from that list. I've got Bartel and JJ at the moment.

Holty · 12/03/2016 at 19:39

thanks again Patch. Appreciate the work you and everyone else puts in.

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 19:57

    Cheers Holty!

@grayson_lowee · 12/03/2016 at 19:43

Also another one for you guys, who is the better option out of wells and de goey? Price isnt an issue here.

    Holty · 12/03/2016 at 19:57

    Wells if durability didnt come into it.

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:19


    Maggi · 12/03/2016 at 21:39


SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 19:45

Surely Cockatoo only gets a week?

Also another great write up Patch, you put in a lot of work mate.

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:19

    Cheers mate. I reckon Cockatoo might be in for 2-3, but it depends on how harsh the tribunal will treat sling tackles. Didn't look great.

    ivan burrows · 12/03/2016 at 22:05

    you must be joking. at least 2-3 wks

      SC_Beast · 13/03/2016 at 09:51

      Considering Gibbs got 2 last year for his tackle on Gray, IMO it isn't as bad as that. He barely got him off the ground, he was just trying to put in a bit of extra effort to get the big fella down. You have to remember, Cockatoo is a little skinny flanker at best and Johnson is a KPP.

Holty · 12/03/2016 at 19:53

Brad Crouch with 40 touches in the SANFL today. Still dont think the team will allow him to play round 1after breaking team rules but definitely on the watch list when he does return.

    SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 20:02

    No doubt about his talent, but as you said, he may struggle to fit back into the team after what he did.

    Maggi · 12/03/2016 at 20:06

    If he plays round 1 will 100% be in my team.

    @footy_bec · 12/03/2016 at 20:20

    He broke curfew, he'll play round 1.

      Holty · 12/03/2016 at 20:38

      he hit the grog. thats why he was dropped. its been on the news here in adelaide.

        Holty · 12/03/2016 at 20:39

        obviously p..s isnt acceptable on this page. lol

          @footy_bec · 12/03/2016 at 21:14

          Yes perhaps… I don't think it was officially said. However Pyke did say it wasn't of a serious nature which to me means that they probably will serve one match and it will be done with. Guess it remains to be seen.

            Holty · 12/03/2016 at 22:26

            i honestly hope he plays round 1. It wont look good on the club though when a player disregards team rules, lets down his team mates who have all followed them and is allowed to play next game.

              DuckingTigers · 13/03/2016 at 12:03

              Say, like Chopsticks?

        Paul · 13/03/2016 at 00:04

        Last time a bloke did that in Adelaide they made him the captain.

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:21

    I'd be surprised if he isn't there round one, but Barron von Crow would be able to shine a better light on that issue than I would.

    Kev · 12/03/2016 at 20:38

    40 touches for Crouch in the twos is par for him

Crowmagnon · 12/03/2016 at 19:54

You are a machine, Patch.
Really appreciate all your hard work.

    SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 19:55

    agree 100%

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:21

    Thanks Crowy!

@grayson_lowee · 12/03/2016 at 20:04

You guys got any suggestions for def rookies that will get game time? already have Weitering, M.Brown (Ess) and N.Broad

    Holty · 12/03/2016 at 20:07

    hartley, collins

    Eric_the_Red · 12/03/2016 at 20:08

    Hartley would have to be a chance you'd think. Essendon can't really be too picky 🙂

      Smithy39 · 12/03/2016 at 20:28

      Doubt Collins would play after today better bet would be Marcus Adams from the doggies its out of those two for that last defender spot imo

    @footy_bec · 12/03/2016 at 20:22

    Adams, Ruggles, perhaps McDonald-Tipungwuti too.

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:22

    If Ruggles gets upgraded, he should play. McDonald-Tipungwuti from the Dons another one I've got in my slide. Matty Dea, too.

    Edit: and Adams from the Dogs.

    SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 20:27

    maybe Bryne-Jones?

Mickey · 12/03/2016 at 20:06

Not sure about the defenders, should I downgrade Bartel to JJ my other premiums are Laird and KK or upgrade one of the three rookies that I'm playing to JJ

Neil · 12/03/2016 at 20:10

Nab scores on game please.

Gibbs · 12/03/2016 at 20:14

Thoughts on my team? Cheers any help would be much appreciated! as with everyone rookies not set
Def- Laird, KK, Bartel, T.Sherriden, M.Brown, M Hartley (K.Collins, D. Byrne-Jones)
Mid-Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Rockliff, Duncan, Libba, C.Mills, Jansen (Cunningham, Mathesion, R Clarke)
Rucks- S. Martin, Gawn
Forwards-D.Martin, Barlow, Greene, De Goey, Kerridge, L. McCarthy ( Menadue,

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:25

    I'm not huge on Sheridan, but that's looking nice, mate. A few left field picks could set you apart.

      Gibbs · 12/03/2016 at 20:28

      Who else instead of Sherriden? Weiters?

      Gibbs · 12/03/2016 at 20:29

      Also is Bartell a worry? Not set on him and he has had his issues with concussion in the past, better options?

        Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:32

        Weitering should be a solid 80-85 for 100k cheaper than Sheridan. Bartel will come good in the two weeks before round 1. Started well – 22 points in 15 minutes or so.

    SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 20:26

    Like Duncan pick, nice POD, has flown under the radar a bit. Personally I like Hall better than Greene due to his de efficiency but its your call.

SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 20:19


Michael Barlow 117
David Mundy 115
Chris Mayne 108
Lachie Neale 99
Hayden Ballantyne 95
Danyle Pearce 93
Stephen Hill 90
Tendai Mzungu 90
Cameron Sutcliffe 89
Nat Fyfe 88
Garrick Ibbotson 88
Clancee Pearce 79
Matthew Pavlich 79
Zac Clarke 71
Michael Walters 70
Michael Johnson 67
Zac Dawson 65
Tom Sheridan 57
Harley Bennell 56
Jonathon Griffin 54
Matt Taberner 44
Nick Suban 39
Lee Spurr 27
Lachie Weller 24


Cameron Guthrie 102
Patrick Dangerfield 91
Mark Blicavs 89
Harry Taylor 88
Steven Motlop 79
Zac Smith 77
Jordan Murdoch 75
Rhys Stanley 74
Cory Gregson 68
Josh Caddy 68
Tom Hawkins 64
Nathan Vardy 64
Andrew Mackie 63
Shane Kersten 63
Lincoln McCarthy 60
Tom Lonergan 53
Darcy Lang 52
Tom Ruggles 48
Lachie Henderson 47
Mitch Duncan 44
Jake Kolodjashnij 37
Josh Cowan 36
Nakia Cockatoo 32
Jimmy Bartel 22

    Kev · 12/03/2016 at 20:41

    Danger 91! Champion data up to their old tricks…

      DadSmasher · 12/03/2016 at 23:02

      Only 60% DE plus 6 Clangers Kev although you'd reckon with 15 contested possy's and 2 goals he'd break the ton!

      SC_Beast · 13/03/2016 at 09:49

      Yes his efficiency let him down.

Eric_the_Red · 12/03/2016 at 20:20

Hey Beast, my team currently looks like this.

Laird, Macmillan, JJ, Weitering, Brown, Hartley (Broad, McD-Tip)

Danger, Hanners, Priddis, Gray, Shiel, Rocky, Libba, Mills (Petracca, Keays, Mathieson)

Nic Nat, Gawn (Chol)

Zorko, Barlow, De Goey, Menzel, Menadue, Kerridge (McCarthy, Grimley)

Hanners/Priddis may still become Ablett, depending on round 1 teams. De Goey is sitting there tentatively and may still become a Greene/Hall type. Undecided there. Any feedback mate?

    SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 20:25

    I'm liking the JJ pick! He looks good doesn't he? Haven't seen Macmillan in many sides, nice POD for you there. Loaded midfield! Hanners and Gray not in many teams which will serve you well. Even Nic Nat isn't in many teams anymore that I have seen with big Gawn taking centre stage.

      Eric_the_Red · 12/03/2016 at 20:26

      Too weak in def and fwd you reckon?

        SC_Beast · 12/03/2016 at 20:28

        My personal opinion is defence is all good, forward line maybe a tad light. Would try get a Merret/Greene/Hall/Buddy in at F3 if possible.

          Eric_the_Red · 12/03/2016 at 20:30

          yeah sweet. will play around and see what I can do. thanks for the feedback.

    Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:34

    MacMillan looking very good at the moment, too. Lot of different players in the middle; are you not keen on Fyfe, Pendles or GAJ? Love the ruck setup.

    I like it.

      Eric_the_Red · 12/03/2016 at 20:44

      Cheers Patch. I'm a big Fyfe fan. Priddis and Hanners could very easily still become Ablett and Fyfe. Aiming for PODs without sacrificing too many points by doing it. Will Fyfe play close to 22? I'm not really sure. My forward line is the most concerning for me at the moment.

Patch · 12/03/2016 at 20:24

Scores: Dockers

Michael Barlow 117
David Mundy 115
Chris Mayne 108
Lachie Neale 99
Hayden Ballantyne 95
Danyle Pearce 93
Stephen Hill 90
Tendai Mzungu 90
Cameron Sutcliffe 89
Nat Fyfe 88
Garrick Ibbotson 88
Clancee Pearce 79
Matthew Pavlich 79
Zac Clarke 71
Michael Walters 70
Michael Johnson 67
Zac Dawson 65
Tom Sheridan 57
Harley Bennell 56
Jonathon Griffin 54
Matt Taberner 44
Nick Suban 39
Lee Spurr 27
Lachie Weller 24


Cameron Guthrie 102
Patrick Dangerfield 91
Mark Blicavs 89
Harry Taylor 88
Steven Motlop 79
Zac Smith 77
Jordan Murdoch 75
Rhys Stanley 74
Cory Gregson 68
Josh Caddy 68
Tom Hawkins 64
Nathan Vardy 64
Andrew Mackie 63
Shane Kersten 63
Lincoln McCarthy 60
Tom Lonergan 53
Darcy Lang 52
Tom Ruggles 48
Lachie Henderson 47
Mitch Duncan 44
Jake Kolodjashnij 37
Josh Cowan 36
Nakia Cockatoo 32
Jimmy Bartel 22

    Eric_the_Red · 12/03/2016 at 20:25

    Thanks Patch. Comforting to see Barlow at the top of the list.

    Holty · 12/03/2016 at 20:44

    Danger only 91? That is interesting

Mourney · 12/03/2016 at 20:32

Thoughts on Wingard? Considering him or Toby Greene but are there better options? Barlow and Martin are the other premo forwards

    Danners · 12/03/2016 at 22:27

    Wingard could be a good POD, although can have an off game if Port don't post a big score

Hawks · 12/03/2016 at 20:33

Daniel Menzel.

Played just the 1st NAB match, and did well.

Should we be concerned about a guy that has been plagued by knee injuries playing just the 1st game, and not the last 2?

His in my team at he moment, but I'm a little concerned how he will be managed this season. How many games can we expect from Menzel?

    Eric_the_Red · 12/03/2016 at 20:46

    If he's named round 1 I'm running with him. If he's not, he becomes Wells. Both are risks but both could turn out fairly well for you. Difficult to know at this stage how Menzel will go, but one things for sure, when he's on he's on!

    Danners · 12/03/2016 at 22:26

    Paying way too much for him and won't make much cash or he won't average well

    Patch · 13/03/2016 at 12:13

    Would take Wells over him, but I really love the kid. Haven't seen much of him in the NAB so I'm really uncertain as to where he'll play. However, barring unexpected injury – unrelated to his knees, which he seems to be over – I'd expect him to play 20 games.

Matt · 12/03/2016 at 20:37

Toss bags keep feedback to posts relative. Take information from others to inform your own side. No one cares about ur side. We are all building to the final rd1 sides named – so spare me the posts " check out my team

    Kev · 12/03/2016 at 20:47

    If you're not interested in the comments don't read them mate. Problem solved

      Matt · 12/03/2016 at 22:25

      Thanks for the advice sweetheart PS hate how this website went COMMERCIAL 'Coach Kings' Please!

      Matt · 12/03/2016 at 22:31

      Not your mate lovely

    hedeski · 12/03/2016 at 20:51

    Borning. Ha ha

Sam · 12/03/2016 at 20:48

Hey fellas, looking for some thoughts on version 1000 of my team
DEF; R.Laird, Z.Tuohy, J.Wetiering, M.Dea, M.Brown, M.Hartley (M.Adams, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti)
MID; Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Wines, Libba, D.Parish (C.Mills, C.Petracca, J.Dunkley)
RUCK; Goldy, Z.Smith (M.Cox)
FOR; D.Martin, M.Barlow, A.Hall, D.Wells, C.Ellis, S.Kerridge (J.Lamb, S.Grimley)
10k in the bank.

    Hawks · 12/03/2016 at 20:58

    Like the structure of the team.

    Not sure about Touhy, would go Johanson or KK. Also bit concerned about 4 Essendon defenders, I would switch McDonald-Tip to the forward line, setting up the ability to swing Brown & McDonald-Tip between forward & defence as required.

    Matt · 12/03/2016 at 22:27


Kev · 12/03/2016 at 20:50

Have to mention your on point Simpsons references, Patch. Brilliant!

    Mighty_Hondo · 13/03/2016 at 03:07

    He mentions another one in GCS v ADL…That's a paddlin!….haha nice 1 Patch

    Patch · 13/03/2016 at 12:15

    *bangs pans together*
    Patch, could you please be quiet?

Mike · 12/03/2016 at 21:09

Comp 886658 ‘Jock’s Jock’ has some spots if anyone is keen.
Was a fine battle last year without being ridiculously tough. Of course we all aspire to be Higgo or Jock.
From memory I finished about 4000 for the year and just missed the finals. Or maybe that was my other league. Anyway you get the idea.
If you’ve read this far down the comments section then you should probably sign up.

Slats · 12/03/2016 at 21:21

Sutcliffe & Sheridan have had good preseasons & seem to be pressing claims for SC relevance, at 350k 1 of these could have a breakout with Duffields position available. Might be worth a punt with the lack of Def premos, thoughts community

    Holty · 12/03/2016 at 23:00

    i dont like either of them personally but you are right about lack of def premiums. i think this year you need to risk that 1 defensive midpricer and those you have selected could be that risk that pays off.

    Vinnymac · 13/03/2016 at 03:30

    Very, very hard to predict I believe since we all know Ross loves switching players around. Personally I'd rather Luke McDonald, cheaper and just as likely to go 80-90

    Steeeve · 13/03/2016 at 21:29

    Sutcliffe can rack up 20 touches easily when on a wing or flank, has a huge motor. Then the next week he'll get a lockdown job, because he can go with small guys or even the Jack Gunston style lead up midsize forwards. I'd avoid in Supercoach but if Ross lets him off the leash for a night lock him into your Coach Kings side.

gaz · 12/03/2016 at 21:21

Whats everyones thoughts on J Roughead (WB) as a ruckman?

    Troy · 12/03/2016 at 22:36


    Patch · 13/03/2016 at 12:16

    Wouldn't touch anyone with half a chance of rucking for the Dogs. I'd steer clear.

Hayley · 12/03/2016 at 21:23

Def: Shaw, Laird, JJ, Sheridan, Weitering, M Brown (Broad, Ruggles)
Mid: Danger, Ablett, Shiel, Cripps, A Hall, Libba, Mills, Parish (Petracca, Keays, Macpherson)
Ruck: Gawn, Sinclair (Grimley)
For: Barlow, Z Merrett, Buddy, Greene, Wells, Kerridge (Milera, Loersch)

Loersch just the for/ruck strategy and VC loophole.

    Patch · 13/03/2016 at 12:18

    Solid mate. Like the Shiel and JJ calls. Not sold on Greene, but we'll get another look at him today.

John · 12/03/2016 at 21:23


Paul · 12/03/2016 at 21:25

Any word on Shane Yarran? Is he some sort of chance to play this year?

The_Black_Mamba · 12/03/2016 at 21:26

Ive been wanting to make an account for a long time community to start helping out on a regular basis. You may have seen me use the un-official name Ewing. You will be seeing me around alot community and I hope to help. Firstly. I truly believe that going with a loaded midfield is not the way to go, you have to have an even spread. Those with libba at m7/m8 tend to forget that the midfield has the best rookies out. As well as fallen premiums. The top rookies in mills, parish and oliver will definitely get over 370k. And then you can lay them off and upgrade easily to a fallen premo with only a bit extra cash. Although if you did go loaded in the mids. And then went with a 3 rookie setup in the defence, as well as 1 or 2 midpricers. The defensive rookies will be lucky to average over 65. Weitering being the exception, looking at him to average 75 as the top draft pick. I am rolling will mills, parish and oliver all on field. As well as 3 premiums, 1 midpricer in johannison and weitering and brown. This looks to be the best strategy for people who have won the game before. Cheers community!

    Liam · 12/03/2016 at 21:40

    Would love to see your team Mamba.

    Francis · 12/03/2016 at 22:31

    100% agree.

    mick · 12/03/2016 at 23:27


    Nathan · 13/03/2016 at 09:58

    But wigh that being said about parish and the likes
    They will only make arond 150/160k
    Where if you went a cheaper rookie at 123k who will play they should make it to 350 make yiu 200k easy and you still have 80k in your starting team to select a stronger side
    And if you are using all 3 then you are using an extra 200k plus to spend
    Thats the difference between a parish and greene

    wombatsfc · 13/03/2016 at 12:16

    G'day blacksnake
    There are at least 3 defensive rookies who will score over 70, Wieter,Brown,Hartley. At 123k Brown and Hartley scoring 70 will increase in price faster than Mills or Parish scoring 80 and you get an extra 100K to spend on D1-3 or maximising on gun midfielders.
    This year I think midfield rookies are a waste if they're priced over 150k and a person would have to be crazy to go with Mills Parish and or Oliver when you can get Kerridge and wells for the same price as Mills and Parish.
    I think the better move is to minimise midfield rookie spend and maximise mid guns spend

james · 12/03/2016 at 21:29

dan hannerbery yes or no

    The_Black_Mamba · 12/03/2016 at 21:31

    Nice pod. Could easily go over that 630k mark. Lock him in if you can.

    Danners · 12/03/2016 at 22:22

    No, once he gets tagged, he gets shut down

    Grahame Lebroy · 13/03/2016 at 08:26

    think he will be highest scoring mid for swans james, but didnt end up selecting him because i feel there are better options round that price range eg, Danger, Ablett.

Tom · 12/03/2016 at 21:30

Shaw, Sheridan and Gray vs Laird, Jmac and Treloar

    The_Black_Mamba · 12/03/2016 at 21:32

    Id go the first option tom.

    Troy · 12/03/2016 at 22:35

    Option 1 by a country mile

Ryan · 12/03/2016 at 21:38

Thoughts on team
Back laird kolo jj dea Hartley tucker (brown,bonner)
Mid Gazza Fyfe danger wines ward rocky libba Jansen (gore,Cunningham,McPherson)
Ruck S.Martin Gawn
Fwd Martin Barlow hall wells kerridge petracva ( (Pickett,Grimley)

Mister_Spock · 12/03/2016 at 21:41

Cheers Patch!
Thoughts on Milera or McCarthy? I've got Milera and Grimley in the forward line, with Grimley as the Ruc/Fwd option, but strongly considering McCarthy at this stage

    DadSmasher · 12/03/2016 at 23:47

    Hiya Big Ears
    I think you've got it right with Mileara
    NAB scores
    Mileara 84, 54, 75 ave 71
    McCarthy 86, 41, 60 ave 62
    Statistically $39k price difference is negated by the 9point ave difference and I think McCarthy probably has more competition within the club for his position

      hedeski · 13/03/2016 at 00:22

      McCarthy been in the system a coupla years smasha and barring injury is very highly rated.

        DadSmasher · 13/03/2016 at 00:50

        I don't doubt your knowledge of him hedeski but I'd never heard of/noticed him until this year and from the little bit of NAB that I've actually seen Mileara seemed to be the better footballer, PLUS Geelong has about 60 forwards who are highly rated. sadly most of them have a tendency to break.

          hedeski · 13/03/2016 at 01:06

          Righto smasha. Info comes from highly respected vfl captain not a kid without a car

    Patch · 13/03/2016 at 12:20

    I'm going with McCarthy, but mainly so I can turn a 123k rookie into Menadue.

    Charlie Cameron will challenge Milera for his spot, and while McCarthy isn't the most secure of rookies I think he'll get time to establish himself but we'll have to see closer to round 1.

Chill · 12/03/2016 at 21:55

I'm going to old three premo three rookie defense. Who should my three premos been? Thinking shaw, laird, kk…

    SC16 · 12/03/2016 at 22:03

    id stay away from shaw until he drops in price
    people to consider: Houli, Laird, Doc, McGovern, Rampe

    Troy · 12/03/2016 at 22:34

    Can't stay away from Shaw mate. Too damn good. Set and forget!

tttt · 12/03/2016 at 21:59

thoughts on sheridan at d4?

    Troy · 12/03/2016 at 22:32

    Lock him in

Carl · 12/03/2016 at 22:11

Whats a better defense option.

Houli, KK, Docherty, smith and 2 rookies aorund the 117K mark


Houli, KK, Docherty, Weitering, Aish and Francis


    Danners · 12/03/2016 at 22:24

    1st, less risk and more cash would be made

    Troy · 12/03/2016 at 22:32

    Option 1 – with any of Brown, Hartley, Broad, Adams or Collins as your rookies. Brown and Hartley your best bets though

    Grahame Lebroy · 13/03/2016 at 08:31

    Maybe Aish to Dea and save near 100k most likely similar scoring output

Average Joe · 12/03/2016 at 22:28

Anyone else see this goal from Byrne?

Troy · 12/03/2016 at 22:30

Would be interested in some thoughts on my team.

Back – Shaw, Rampe, Johannisen, Sheridan, Brown, Hartley (Broad, Adams)
Mid – Fyfe, Danger, Priddis, Shiel, Cripps, M. Crouch, Libba, Mills (G. Hewett, Mathieson, Davis)
Ruck – Gawn, Sinclair (S. Michael)
Fwd – Barlow, Greene, Hall, Wells, Simpkin, Kerridge (Menandue, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

Got $84.5K left in the bank.

    Smash · 13/03/2016 at 12:35

    Upgrade Rampe to Laird

      Troy · 13/03/2016 at 19:42

      Had Laird initially but honestly can't see him averaging any more than Rampe and having Rampe saves me that bit of extra $

Danners · 12/03/2016 at 22:37

Great stuff Patch! Dangerfield did look impressive in the first half, although only 7 disposals in the second half is a bit of a concern. He did only play 73% of the game though not sure how much of the second half he did play. The question is how will he go with Selwood? Would like to have Dangerfield in my team but I reckon I could get him 100k cheaper

    Average Joe · 12/03/2016 at 22:42

    Reckon you will be waiting a long time before he's 100k cheaper

    Leeds17 · 13/03/2016 at 07:20

    Might get Danger cheaper but you may miss a stretch of game where he goes at 130 too,

    Patch · 13/03/2016 at 12:21

    Geelong's start to the year (after round 1) is ravenous. I'm not concerned by a slower second half; it was extremely hot in Perth and Scotty might have tried to make sure he didn't overexert himself. He's still locked away.

Siri · 12/03/2016 at 22:42

join champions – 385070

DadSmasher · 12/03/2016 at 23:28

Sutcliffe $355,900
Sheridan $351,100

Both have shown to be viable defensive options but who should we take?
On NAB form if you can fit both in your starting 22 it wouldn't be a bad decision.
Sheridan has averaged 93.3 across NAB and Sutcliffe has averaged 91.6
Sheridan has scored at 1.14 points per minute across nab and Sutcliffe has scored at 1.10 points per minute.

Sheridan had a high of 128 from 88% game time but a low of 57 from 80% game time
Sutcliffe had a high of 115 from 80% game time and a low of 71 from 84% game time

This data suggests that sutcliffe is the safer choice.

However there is a 'qualification' that should be noted. Both of these guys are vying for the role that was previously occupied by the man who was the original 'BURN MAN'. If he earned that title due to Lyons coaching rather than his own erratic performance maybe both these blokes should be scratched from your team.

I'm backing Sheridan as my D3 atmo

    Leeds17 · 13/03/2016 at 01:04

    Good analysis, I agree and Sheridan has left my team, Lonergan is the one I'll be going assuming he's named R1,

    Mckenzie has flattered to deceive before but I do think he's turned the corner the key for him is too have 2 key backs down there so he can be the 3rd up, watch team selection.

    SC_Beast · 13/03/2016 at 09:44

    Sheridan has the pace the dockers need off the half back, he seems to be a good selection.

    mick · 13/03/2016 at 10:28

    you take info on two nab cup games uve lost the plot smasher

      DadSmasher · 13/03/2016 at 11:04

      Three games mick or, if you want to get technical, every single official game played so far this year

        mick · 13/03/2016 at 11:12

        i just think there big ifs but sheridan if i was going to pick one be careful freos points ffyfe barlow mundy neale run deep leaving sheridan about 6th in line if hes lucky

          DadSmasher · 13/03/2016 at 20:00

          No worries Mick I was thinking of using Sheridan as a defender and if Ross has the same idea Fyffe shouldn't steal too many points from him

    Patch · 13/03/2016 at 12:26

    Love this analysis mate. Spot on. I'm not going near either of them for precisely the reason you mention – Ross doesn't like handing this role to one player, he shuffles them through.

Paul · 13/03/2016 at 00:04

B Crouch or De Goey?

Grahame Lebroy · 13/03/2016 at 08:34


Alec · 13/03/2016 at 09:38

What do you thinks of Corey Enright as a POD option, is he worth the money at 516 k?

    Patch · 13/03/2016 at 12:28

    Tooth length is a worry and I feel he might be rested. He always drops to 450k or so at some stage so I won't start him. Prefer one of Laird, Simpson or Bob Murphy at that price

Hawker · 13/03/2016 at 11:37

What's the word on Petracca is he a lock?

    Puck Jump · 13/03/2016 at 12:38

    Isnt that a pertinent question!? He's not played yet and seems unlikely to just slot into a Rd 1 AFL team without any reserves time. He's looming as a Down Trade post first slaughter of the season… I really need an extra $3k and he's the only one I can think of that I might be able to cull now to bring in a cheaper rookie.

    I N Pieman · 13/03/2016 at 13:08

    Save a trade & use him as a loophole. Melbourne usually play late in the round. Sure he comes in at some stage

Bigboysballs · 13/03/2016 at 19:22

Anyone thoughts on Brad Shepard or Zac Williams? Got Laird and Gibson that I should keep for he year, don't know who else, options?

Bongwaterbrawlers · 13/03/2016 at 20:24

Corey Gault been promoted by the pies.
Had a good preseason and ended 2015 well, thought on a looK in?

Swansong · 13/03/2016 at 22:53

Is fyfe a must have or a get later player

Hoff · 16/03/2016 at 18:21

Hey guys I would love and appreciate advice or criticism for my team. Thanks
DEF: Shaw, KK, Sutcliffe, Sheridan, Weitering, Dea (McDonald-Tip, Brown(ess))
MID: Fyfe, Danger, Hannebury, Gaff, Rocky, Libby, Mills, Oliver (Davis, McPherson, Marconi)
RUC: Martin, Yawn (Chol)
FWD: Barlow, Merritt, Hall, Wells, B.Kennedy, Kerridge (Beech, Galluci)

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