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NAB ANALYSIS: Richmond v Port Adelaide

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Jock Reynolds Coach KingsThe CoachKings juggernaut landed with a resounding BANG in Melbourne and Adelaide last night.

The exclusive CoachKings product launch events featuring the Richmond v Port Adelaide game were an absolute raging success . Have never been prouder of our community. For the first time in our nation live game-by-game fantasy footy hit the pub scene.

This was a launch to show venues the sheer magnitude of what we’re rolling out.. but rest assured the time for all of you to have a crack is nigh.

Your mates. At the pub. Competing in live game by game Jock Reynolds CoachKings fantasy footy. Click here to find your closest venue and get aroused! Also pump your email address into the form at the end of the article to get yourself schooled up and ready.

Before I rip into the game analysis – here are some pics of a memorable evening;

Mick The Mad Irishman, Chicko, Maso and Patch

Mick The Mad Irishman, Chicko, Maso and Patch getting amongst it. Mick won the contest!

Kosi, Nicky Dal, Adam Schneider, Barry Hall, Higgo, Miley and you're old uncle Jock

Kosi, Nicky Dal, Adam Schneider, Barry Hall, Higgo, Miley and your old uncle Jock. Kosi and Nick are a bit distracted – they’re keeping an eye on their CoachKings team on the live in venue ladder.

Me and Nicky Dal Santo. Wonderful bloke. Check out the live CoachKings scoreboard behind us. Majestic.

Me and Nicky Dal Santo. Wonderful bloke. Check out the live CoachKings scoreboard behind us. Majestic.

This one is already up in the bungalow. Maso, Wayno, Mad Mick, Chicko, Patch, Lekdog and Dan. Spewing Higgo's not in there. Was off drinking tea

This one’s already up in the bungalow. Maso, Wayno, Mad Mick, Chicko, Patch, Lekdog and Dan. Spewing Higgo’s not in there. Was off drinking tea

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As much as I’m frothing at the chops at our CoachKings revolution.. we have a long form Supercoach & AFL Fantasy season to prepare for.. and last night was significant for a number of reasons;

Richmond v Port Adelaide Supercoach Analysis:

I’ll just pick out a few key performances from each team folks –

Matthew Lobbe (RUC $389,500) probably needs to be taken out to the Ken’s back paddock to be put to sleep. If he wasn’t already scratched off your radar after The Gawn Massacre.. it’s time to absolutely scratch him off now. Looks out of the contest and sadly not up to the job as the #1 ruckman. You know I’m carrying on a bit. He actually had 12 effective hitouts which is nothing to sneeze at for 73 Supercoach points. But look at what he was up against with Maric out for Richmond.. not convincing.

Sam Gray (MID/FWD, $480,800) 118 Supercoach points and looks set to take part in the midfield mix at Port this season. The one thing I’m worried about is Polec, and Brendan Ah Chee (MIS $334,100) is also staking a claim for a spot in the guts after his 24 possession 107 Supercoach point performance. He’ll come back in for round 1 and might just push Sam back up forward. There’s also the fact he’s not exactly midpriced. Should be considered but personally I don’t like him at this price. 28 disposals, 8 clearances and a goal. Looks a real long term prospect now at Port.

Ollie Wines (MID, $525,100) had stuffed 72 Supercoach points into his back pocket by half time to finish with 104. This kid with the best thighs in the business is SPECIAL. As hard with the contested ball as I’ve come across for his age. He seemed to cramp up a bit in the back half which could just be an indication of his match fitness at this stage of his preparation.. but for me Quadzilla is back front and centre as a selection option after his ordinary NAB 1. Love this kid.

Brett Deledio (FWD $608,800) Only played the one half on his return from dramas with his leg. 60 Supercoach points and certainly appeared to move well. I absolutely will not select him in my starting Supercoach squad this year.. he’ll have a nice price drop and looks an ideal pickup around round 8 when his price dips, and he has the condition to approach peak form. Promising signs last night for Brett.

Connor Menadue (FWD/MID $155,400) had it 14 times and played 86% game time. 65 Supercoach points but importantly looks a real part of the best 22. High probability to run out Thursday week against Carlton based on what I’ve seen this preseason.

Chopsticks Martin (FWD/MID $569,300) had a shocker. 35 Supercoach points, 16 disposals but 7 of the bastards were clangers. He has a lot on him mind at the minute with his old Dad in a bit of strife. May have sown the first seeds of doubt for many of us around has status as a lock. Still in my team.

Of course Richmond were smashed by injury as well. Shane Edwards, Reece Conca, Shaun Grigg, Jacob Townsend all stuffed. Sad for the kids, especially feel for Conca who really needed to stay fit to get himself back in the midfield mix at Richmond. Hampson looked a bit sore as well.

What did you take out of the game community?

 


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Chill

Been swapping between Wines and Viney for a while now. I truly think Viney will have a cracker year. Wines will just about kill himself at some point and probably be side-lined. Real dilemma.

Dan

Wines underpriced after interrupted year, whereas Viney will be in a team that still gets smashed alot.

Chill

Someone needs to play well..

Sarah

I predict Wines marginally averaging more than Viney, but neither to be top 8 Mids.
If money isn't an issue, go with whoever you like more, if your tight on money go Viney

Chill

If neither end up as a top 8 then Viney would be the better pick to make me money I suppose. Who are your top 8 Sarah?

Average Joe

If your strapped for money and can't go Wines, I would go mitch duncan

Jonathon

Just wondering guys how you all thought nathan broad went last night and over the NAB challange?
Found a bit of the pill with 17 possies in 65% game time. would he get a gig on Thursday?

PJ8

Think he's a chance mate, mature age. In a way looks more suited AFL than Menadue.

Will just be a wait and see for when those Round 1 teams drop.

CoachPrince

Considering the injuries from last night is say both are a lock for RD 1-3?

Jonathon

Yeah i agree mate usually when teams draft a mature aged recruit they usually have a impact early on, he could potentially be the kamdyn mcintosh of last year

DuckingTigers

I hope he's not a ducker like Kamdyn.

MightyMouse88

Hey guys just wanted some feedback on howe this is looking, I have brough Gray back in after last nights game. Love the kid.

Backs: Laird, Bartel, Birchall, T. Lee, M. Brown (ESS), Broad ( Hartley, Adams)
Mids: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Sloane, Rockliff, Liberatore, B. Kennedy, Mathieson (Polkinghorne, Keays, MacPherson)
Rucks: Martin, Naitanui (Grimley)
Fwds: Martin, Barlow, S. Gray, Greene, Wells, Kerridge (Petracca, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

6.8k in bank

Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks

CoachPrince

I like Sloane as a POD. The mouse trap may be triggered in double tooth length Bartel/Birchall. Good balance mostly. No Goldy = rolling the dice. Plus Toby Greene would be a difficult human to want good things for in life, though having a 'no tools' policy isn't always best for our teams. I wish you luck.

MightyMouse88

Hey guys just wanted some feedback on howe this is looking, I have brough Gray back in after last nights game. Love the kid.

Dan

Bartel may get rested. Sloane more attention with Danger gone. And B.Kennedy could be changed to Mills if you can find the 15-20k spare.

Korza

When perusing through the teams posted, i sometimes get stunned, which isn't to often. When i take a second look and ask myself, "how the bloody hell, did he fit this team in the salary cap" then i sit back and take notice.

Mike

Solid looking team. Go with it.

hedeski

Gday Jock glad your launch was a success.
Like the look of Broad and Menadue. Reckon s.Gray can pump out a 100ish ave and at his price I'm pretty tempted to stick him in there.
Quadzilla and Parker are giving me nightmares can't decide.
Cheers love ya work.

hedeski

Also mate when is the venue list getting updated? Thanks

Dan

Went both quad and parker. Both underpriced.

Dondeal

I'm going with Sam Gray this year. Massive risk I know but his last few games last year show that his ceiling is huge – higher than either Polec or Ah Chee imo. Built like a brick s**thouse, can kick a goal and with less rotations and no sub this year I can him regularly running through the midfield. No guts no glory!

PJ8

I'm not convinced.

Last year played well when Wines was on ice in the back end of the season.
This pre-season has played well but again it's NAB and everyone gets a go. As Jock said no Polec and Boak only was in 1 centre bounce last night so was eased in.
On top of that Wines, Hartlett, Ebert and R.Gray will get midfield time before him.

magpie4ver

I'm not convinced either PJ8

Big G

any signs Chad Wingard will play in the guts this year or go back to his 2014 role?

PJ8

Pretty sure I read somewhere that he is considered too dangerous to leave the forward line.

@BarronVonCrow

Yep, Hinkley said it on the AFL Twitter Q&A.

Dan

Too dangerous to leave the fwd line is a positive way of saying they don't have many options up fwd!

Derek

i think Chad will be perm forward. That doesn't worry me to much for the start of the season when Port have such a good draw. Chad will see plenty of the ball and kick more than his fair share of goals

Steeeve

Pretty sure he'll be on a flank but he should see plenty of the ball further down the ground. Locked into my side (over the likes of Zorko/Dahl) because of Port's easy start. Hopefully Lobbe will win just enough hit outs the Power can actually get the ball forward! Then Chad should be amongst it plenty.

Jonathon

wingard is a upgrade target in my opinion as he usually has slow starts and after the byes he just goes berserk. will definitely drop at least 50k in price

Derek

look at Ports draw….even Zac dawson could score points!

Ben

Ken in his ask the coach on the AFL website said Wingard was too good up forward to play too much midfield. Take that with a grain of salt, but worrying.

Shake n bake

For the 1st time I've cut Martin from my side. Just starting to have a few doubts. I'll wack him on my watchlist, just want to wait to see how he and the Tigers go.

PJ8

You are falling for the NAB trap. He's a gun and will be a top 3 SC FWD.

Ignore last nights game, when the real stuff starts the big boys will come out to play.

Shake n bake

I know maybe most won't agree and say it was only a NAB game but sometimes you get those feelings. I only go on by what l see and here. Just hope I'm right!

PJ8

It only matters what you see of the rookies in NAB.

PrincessMarigold

Chopsticks will drop by more than 50K by round 6 and his ave will be mid 80's. It happens every year, even those years without personal turmoil.
Check the history books boys he's the poster boy for the season starting numpty who should never be considered as a starter in your SC team, unless hes sub 400k

DuckingTigers

I think you should recheck your statistics. For the last three years his first four round scores have been as follows: 2015 (1) 51 (2) 139 (3) 110 (4) 85 2014 (1) 102 (2) 108 (3) 84 (4) 94 2013 (1) 85 (2) 92 (3) 150 (4) 80. His lowest average; ergo, has been 96 for the opening four rounds over the past three years. I'd be happy with that yet I'm still favouring Wingard due to Port's early draw.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Of my guys who played this game robbie gray looks good to go just so classy with ball in hand and dangerous around goal. The Chad had a good hit out blew out a few cobwebs will b better for the run and will rotate between mid and fwd. Broad and menadue if named Rd 1 good rookie options.

magpie4ver

Trigger would love you to join my league we arent in one together. 216911 if you would like?

Deccas

Is Byrne-Jones going to play round 1? Or is he not up to AFL level yet?

@BarronVonCrow

I wouldn't have him in the Best 22 ATM. But it's possible.

Que

Gray and Wingard

OR

Deledio and Wines

tophawk

Gray and Wingard for me.

Sean

This year I'm seeing some teams with 6 premium midfielders, most with 5 with liberatore at m6. Those that have six aren't usually able to afford the top players in each line def, ruck and fwd. eg. Shaw, goldy or Deledio, Montagna. So what's better having Shaw 100k more than the next best player( scoring 10 points more) and goldy 150k more than the next best ( scoring 15 points more) with an extra rookie at m7 scoring 70 point on avg. or
Saving 250k and having an extra premium mid scoring 110 but being weaker in the top player of each line loosing 25 points a week but scoring 40 points more from and extra promo mid. Which is the better option keeping in mind if goldy and shaw remain the top playing in each line you would want to be trading them in at some stage, wouldn't it be easier to just start with them, loosing 15 points to start off the season?

Derek

i calculate the $ value at roughly $10k = 2 SC points per week.

to compare Shaw to Laird, you need to think is Shaw going to score more than 20 points than Laird. This is only relevant when comparing "keepers" at the start of the year.

For any player who isn't a keeper, its all about cash generation! Don't worry about their SC score, that will look after itself if they are increasing their value

@randomcliche

1.85 by my calcs, on avg, but $/100k changes a lot b/w rookies and premos, the split between them (i.e. how many premos) and the junk mid pricers is important!

@randomcliche

Sorry points per $100k.

Dan

Your weaker lines as far as premos go, should be the lines where there are lots of decent rookies to choose from. Not so many in mids as previous years, thus ppl loading up mids and going weaker in def and a bit in fwds too.

Average Joe

Like what dan said, better rookies in Def and Fwd lines this year. Mid rooks either too expensive or don't have enough js

Plus mid premos are more reliable than other premos

Tony

Where are last nites scores?

Kev

Check fanfooty, Tony

Steeeve

The question isn't whether to have Dusty in your side. Everyone will need him (barring LTI). The question is whether you should start with him. He has traditionally struggled against Carlton, and his old man's saga would have to be a serious distraction. If I drop him from my side it will only be because I think I can make him a priority upgrade target after about six rounds. Does anyone see his price dropping significantly?

Tony

I reckon he'll average about 100pts at best thru the first 6.

Cam

even wuth "bogey sides", a carlton team this inexperienced is frankly vulnerable every game of the year to have a guy like Dusty tear them apart. Curnow may get the tag on him but when Richmond inevitably get 6 goals up by half time and then the flood gates open you can bet 2 or 3 of those goals will come from Dusty

PrincessMarigold

Chopsticks will drop by more than 50K by round 6 and his ave will be mid 80's. It happens every year, even those years without personal turmoil.
Check the history books boys he's the poster boy for the season starting numpty who should never be considered as a starter in your SC team, unless hes sub 400k

Dan

I think he's more chance of droping significantly than rising significantly.

@randomcliche

Steve, the bloke pulls out decent scores and is always the talk of the town, whether eating noodles or chatting to DFAT. Oh, normally though when is just chilling on the harley he is in the news for his bigger tank this season. Has scope to go higher. For me its a relative scope for improvement between him a few in the 400-500k bracket like hall that will determine whether he starts in my team. He hasn't made my team yet, but never say never, you'll want him by rnd 12.

SC_Beast

Thanks Jock, congrats on the launch of KK! Thoughts on Rance and Houli please?

Chill

Thoughts on Billings? I'm calling break-out year!

Sammyboy

Shoosh

Skeleton

Hey fellow supercoachers!

Would love if one of you blokes could give me the Nay or yay on my current team! Here it goes:

Def; Laird,Bartel,Birchall,Sheridan,Hartley,brown(tipa, broad)
Mid; danger,gaj,Jkenedy,ward,rocky,Libba,mills, Gresham (mathieson,petracca,adamson)
Ruck;nicnat, Gawn (cox)
Forward;Martin,Barlow,wingard,wells,millera, kerridge(grimley,McCarthy)

Sarah

Nay, my thoughts:

Def: Bartel and Birchall are shocking picks.
Mid: Solid, but you can't select JPK over Parker
Ruck: You can't go set n forget without Goldstein, otherwise you pretty much can't get him in without wasting trades.
Fwd: WIngard isn't a good pick, look for a midfield type player instead, likely average a lot more than a permanet forward

TheMont

I agree with Sarag, though i think Birchall is a soild selection. He'll finish top 10, and be some what consistent.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Great team.
Easy team to manage upgrading across the board.

Let me tell you this, no one knows who the top players are each year, they can only have a educated or history(how the player has scored previously) guess, and more than not that guess goes out the window at some point.

There are certain players i would choose over others in your team, but they would be on very similar points for price.

Rascal

Why is just about every team selecting bartel? Won't play mids, will be managed so likely to miss games esp against the weaker sides and getting long in the tooth so more prone to injury. Likely to avg around 90-95. The guy I have I have not seen in one team is durable, less likely to miss games and is elite by foot. Just not sure what the big hang up on bartel is?

Derek

there is no substitute for quality!

Rascal

my guy is quality too.

PJ8

Agree! Has never been in my team

SC_Beast

90-95 is a good average for a defender. Would you mind sharing your player of choice?

Average Joe

yes, who is this mystery player that no-one is picking?

Rascal

Should avg around 95.
wouldn't be a pod if I told you and I guarantee he will in a lot of teams once his identity is revealed.

Steeeve

That's not in the community spirit mate. And I think if he was as good a choice as you say he'd already be getting talked about.

Rascal

yeah I find it amazing that he has not been mentioned once in any post and as I said have not seen him in one team, whereas Bartel is in just about every team as a D3.

I guarantee this guy will play more games than Bartel an score similar or higher.

All will be revealed very soon

Rascal

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look at those disposals by foot! – gold in supercoach.

Rascal

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try again – look at those disposals by foot! – gold in supercoach!

SC_Beast

This isn't even hard to read.

Better Luck Nxt Yr

Robert Murphy
Round 22 – 75,
Round 21 – 93
Round 20 – 101
Turns 34 this year. Has only once averaged over 92.8 in last 11 seasons.
You would have said Bartel was more durable that Bob at the start of last year too.

Better Luck Nxt Yr

*than* Bob

Rascal

bingo – capt Bob!
not reason he cant repeat that this year.

give me a reason the all Australian capt is not a better pick than Bartel?
played 20 games last year
is the capt of the dogs so the capt will not be rested as much as other players
same age as bartel
elite by foot and goes by foot much more than hand
dogs look to get the ball in his hands as the distributor coming off the backline
dogs play the first 7 games under the roof
Need I go on?

SC_Beast

1. Murphy is old as is Bartel.
2. Bartel is cheaper and will go through the middle.
3. Murphy has handed his role over to JJ.
4. Dogs will slide this year.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Agree
Agree
Agree
Dogs wont slide, not by a long shot.

Rascal

Agree murphy is as old ax bartel
But bartel won't go through the middle have u seen the cats mids?
Murphy will still get plenty of the ball jj is just a apprentice
Dogs will b there when the drums r beating

Better Luck Nxt Yr

I'll give you three, but only because you asked.

Bartel has averaged over 95 every year for the last 11 years except last season (although if you take out the injury affected 5, he would have) and over 100 in 8 of those 11 seasons whereas Bob has only averaged over 95 once and never over 100.

If you look over the last 11 years, Bartel has played at least 20 games 9 times and Bob has played at least 20 games only 6 times.

Bartel is $25,000 cheaper and he is younger than Bob (if only marginally).

Having said that, Bob still SHOULD be a decent pick and you should follow your instincts.

DuckingTigers

……..and he's just such a great bloke that he's a pain in the arse. There's no way I'd pick captain smarmy. He's only a good average player.

Rascal

U cant look at history that was when bartel was younger and played midfield. He aint young anymore and not sure where he will play but wont b in the midfield.

SC_Beast

How soon Rascal. Either this bloke does not exist or I'm sure people are picking him.

Big G

Just give us a clue.

Dan

Its McGovern. Will be back to that intercept marker and running out of def alot more since WC have their big defs back.

Rascal

nah seen McGovern in a stack of teams so not him.
stupid excel pastes as a text so sorry about the post before.
but it is kicks, handballs, disposals, SC pts.

SC_Beast

Just tell.

Chill

Completely agree Rascal. I had him but now dropped. I have gone Shaw, Laird and KK and 3 rookies.

Derek

i heard people saying the same about Hodge last year.

RobDogs

Elite kick, am thinking Rich?

Holty

He is in my side. First defender i selected. He is the only proven premium who is under valued.

Derek

good debate.

Murphy overachieved last year, Bartel underachieved.

Votes

Who should I have as my F3? Wingard, Greene, Hall? And who for my D3? Bartell, Yeo, McGovern, Jason Johanison or Brodie smith or Jamie Macmillan

PJ8

IMO

Greene for F3

Francis

Get Stringer as F3. First 7 games at Etihad, will be $550+ very quickly. IMO

@TheNoLanguage

Have got him as F3 and very happy

TRIGGER HAPPY

F3 wingard geez must b loaded up fwd.

Dave

Menadue or Milera ? Thinking a few injuries to Richmond means menadur is a lock

Adam

MENADUE, he is definitely a lock and is also cheaper, jump on!

@BarronVonCrow

Go Menadue. Crows will have Cameron and Knight to come back in. They'll push Milera out if he's in the 22 early.

Average Joe

join my league, cheers fellas 870035

Uncle Chop, Chop

Thoughts on my team:
B: Houli, Laird, Birchall, Lonergan, brown, hartely, (collins, broad)
M: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ/Pendels, Rocky, Parker, Libba, B Kennedy, Gresham, (Adamson, Mattieson, Cunningham/Gore)
Goldy, Lobbe, (Wyatt)
Deleido, Martin, Wingard, Wells, Grimely, Kerridge, (Tippa, Petracca)
My main worry is Lobbe – Who to downgrade/upgrade

Derek

i'm sticking to my original plan regards Lobbe.

He is only $389k and should make a bit of cash. port have an easy draw to start and he is the number 1 ruck at Port. (Zac Smith is not).

The last two games are only NAB – he didn't have alot to prove so i'm thinking he was at half rat-power. What i did like he was laying plenty of tackles.

I understand he is not a keeper, and anyone who isn't a keeper should be in the team to make cash. I believe he will make as much cash as any other non-keeper rucks, in the meantime Goldy hopefully will get a bit cheaper.

i started with Bellchambers at R2 last year and nicely upgraded to Jacobes in round 6 – saved me $90k

Bill

Depends how much $ in the bank.. maybe try dropping lids down to a Merrett/Billings/Hall type and using that cash to get Lobbe up to Gawn/NicNat?

james

starting to really consider boak as a pod scored 100+ in his first nab game and scored 83 last and only attented 1 centre bounce, when the real stuff starts will boak be playing more forward or stay in the guts

Steeeve

Think you know what you'll get from Boak, a good POD but not top 10 mid by season's end.

@BarronVonCrow

I like Boak, but you can get Wines for 10K less and I'd put my money on Quadzilla finishing higher in the rankings.

blake

how do you find out what percentage of teams a player is in

@BarronVonCrow

In the players section there's an option that says "Coaches Choice". That's where you'll find ownership %.

Adam

I love how everyone seems to think Wines was "injured" or something of the sort against Melbourne. Viney clearly and thoroughly demolished him and see the ociassional comment whereas Wines is in every single one.

Could someone explain the hype over Wines?

Kev

4th year in the system and is the right age for a breakout season. Contested beast at 525k is hard to ignore

@TheNoLanguage

Has already been there and done it. Viney has done very little except talk smack about how good he is. Wines every day of the week.

EDM

I've never heard Viney talk smack about how good he is. Tends to let his footy do the talking. But agree, Wines the better prospect.

DuckingTigers

Once you pick the grapes from the Viney ou can enjoy some nice Wines.

Jabba07

Hi all, thoughts on a different approach:

Def: Houli, B Smith, McGovern, Lonnegan, Hartley Broad
Mid: Ward, Rockliff, Parker, Viney, Duncan, Libba, M Crouch, Mills
Ruck: Goldie, Gawn (Currie)
Fwd: Barlow, Greene, Hall, De Goey, Wells, Kerridge

Bank 196k.

Strategy is to go in with undervalued players except ruck which is set and forget. Plan is to pick up super premiums when they have a poor patch.

I am new to this, am I being stupid?

Sarah

A big issue with your team is you don't have a clear caption option. If you upgrade Viney to a Fyfe, Danger, or Ablett it gives you a good captain for each week.

A suggestion would be to downgrade Crouch or Libba to a rookie, upgrade De Goey to Martin and upgrade Viney to Danger. It'll be a much stronger looking team.

Benjamima Puddleduck

you must have missed the word GOLDIE in his list

judd0

Haha Jabba my friend you are so crazy it just might work, but it won't.
It's just to much risk mate, but that would be a fun team to trade with throughout the year, if your looking to have fun for a season to learn the ropes this would be a good team.
Rookies are the main money makers in this game you can't rely on mid pricers or fallen premiums to make cash because it's just to hard to predict which ones will. I like a lot of your picks but that's just to much risk in one team.

Derek

i think i went that strategy a few years ago and just ran out of trades!

I think you need min 10 keepers in your starting team

Benjamima Puddleduck

So true, to many to possible upgrade to premiums through out the year.
Not to say, that some of those mids wont make it up there this year.

Jabba

Ok had a rethink to guns and rookies

Def: Shaw Houli McGovern Smith Broad Hartley

Mid: Fyfe Danger Ablett Rocky Parker Libba Mills Kerridge

Ruck: Goldie Martin

Fwd: Barlow Greene Hall Wells McCarthy M.Brown

Is this stronger?

@randomcliche

Yes. Much so, until I read Greene the butcher. Consider a more reliable F2, or a ruck/fwd swing set with Tippet, Sinclair et al for ruck cover.

Jimmy P

Feedback on my team?
DEF: Houli, Laird, Gibson, Brown, Hartley, Collins (Adams, Broad)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Bontempelli, Shiel, Cripps, Duncan, Libba (Petracca, Mathieson, Macpherson)
RUCK: Blicavs, Gawn (Michael)
FWD: Barlow, Billings, Hall, Kerridge, Kommer, Grimley (Obrien, Tipungwuti)

@TheNoLanguage

Not sure about Sidey and Pendles in the same team but other than that I like it!

SC_Beast

Gibo is a POD, not concerned that he will be the second tall?

@randomcliche

Really strong, great pods mostly. Don't worry about Pendles and Sidebum in same team imo, had swan and pendles for years. Oh, I ran Gibbo last year in hope he would run free with Lake at home. Didn't happen. Less likely this year. No for mine.

Superbj

Hey guys can I grab some feedback on my team, first year im taking supercoach seriously.
Def: Shaw, Rance, Pairs, McDonald (kangas), Hartley, M Brown. ( Hibberd , Keath).
Mid: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ward, B crouch, libba, kerridge , Clarke (kangas). ( Mattheson and 2 rookies).
Rick: Goldy, Martin, (Chol).
Forward: deledio, Martin, Barlow, wellss, Kennedy (demons), kommer. ( petracca and a rookie).

Still iffy on having both deledio and dusty. Might downgrade to a hall or greene.

Superbj

By Paris I mean Laird

SC_Beast

Don't start Deledio.

Northernsoul74

I assume this is due to price? Interested if you're applying the same logic to Goldy and Shaw in their respective positions.

Lazy_Simmo

yeah agree with Beast.
I would apply the same logic to Shaw Northernsoul, but I feel Goldy is legitimate Capt choice if your running loophole.

Hell Broke Luce

I've got a team you'll go nuts about. One way or another.

Backs: KK, Bartel, Yeo, Rich, Aish, Weitering (rooks)
Mids: Fyfe, Ablett, Shiel, Rockliff, Wines, Libba, Mills, some rookie (rooks)
Rucks: Gawn, Sinclair (rook)
Forwards: Martin, Wingard, Menzel, Weels, Milera, Kerridge (rooks)

Mid Price Delight! What do you think?

SC_Beast

I do not like Yeo. Showed us nothing in the 2 NAB challenge games thus far. You have spent too much in defence, trade one of Aish and Weitering. Would also trade either Menzel or Wells and try and scrounge enough cash to get a decent F3 like Greene.

Hell Broke Luce

Most would but I'm backing in the mid pricers. Wells and Menzel should at least gain some coin. If Hall busts you're left with no cash gain and a trade.
And Yeo should be fine. Plus he's a POD now.
I'm just sick of guns and rookie teams, feel like taking a thrill ride for once.

medadsson

Hope you are right but agree with SC Beast. You are in for a rollercoaster ride with Yeo. Yes he can pump out some good scores but he is also likely to give you a 50-60 more often than you may wish to bear. Personally going with McGovern. Also consider that Yeo may be required to stay down back due to newly reported injury to Mitch Brown. Good luck all the same 🙂

Benjamima Puddleduck

Pretty sure the coach has stated that Yeo will be running balls deeep through the mid this year.
People get so swayed by the scores from NAB games.

Francis

Thoughts lads?

DEF: Shaw, Houli, Sheridan, Dea, Brown, Broad (Collins, Ruggles)
MID: Fyfe, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Wines, Liberatore, Simpkin, Mills (Keays, Mathieson, Macpherson)
RUCK: Goldstein, Gawn (Grimley)
FWD: Martin, Barlow, Stringer, De Goey, Wells, Kerridge (Petracca, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

Got 55k left. Thanks!

Big G

Ruggles. Interesting rookie POD

SC_Beast

I think your D3 should be a keeper, and I don't see Sheridan being keeper. I wouldn't select Simpkin – hasn't shown much downgrade Simpkin to rookie and upgrade Sheridan.

Phil

Sheridan is currently my D2!

SC_Beast

Thoughts on Houli, Rance, Johannisen?

Pinidu

Definitely between Houli and Rance mate.

I have a gut feeling that one of them is going to play really well and average over 100 this year but I'm trying to figure out who…Houli has played well in the NAB challenge so for me he would be slightly ahead of Rance.

SC_Beast

Thanks mate, appreciate the reply.

xav

lost my fwd pod edwards, got 504k to spend on a forward

Pinidu

Barlow. lock him in and throw away the key.

Northernsoul74

Edwards cleared for round 1.

Pinidu

Community,

I'm in a live draft at the moment and am selecting a player for my midfield bench.

I have singled out my four best options:
– Dion Prestia (GCS)
– Marc Murphy (CARL)
– Jack Macrae (WB)
– Mitch Duncan (GEEL)

Who should I pick? Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

SC_Beast

Duncan.

hedeski

Yep duncan high ceiling

Youngy

Duncan

Pinidu

Community, thoughts on my team?

DEF: Shaw, Laird, Simpson, M. Brown (ESS), Hartley, Broad (Adams, Tipungwiti)
MID: Fyfe, Ablett, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Liberatore, Mills, Parish (Keays, Mathieson, MacPherson)
RUCK: S. Martin, Naitinui (Cox)
FWD: D. Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Petracca, Grimley)

Defence options are quite shallow this year and there are plenty of rookies so I have stacked up my midfield.

Thanks in advance.

magpie4ver

Pinidu if you have any leagues left would love it if you would join mine? 216911 if you would like?

Pinidu

I'd love to mate. I'll join now. Turns out we also barrack for the same AFL team.

magpie4ver

Sweet! Carn The Pies!!!!! Welcome to the league!!!

Pinidu

Also mate, could I please grab your thoughts on my team??

magpie4ver

Sure! Not liking simpson think Docs a better option? Think you should go Goldy Gawn in Ruck? Other than that looks good!! As we all know it really comes down to the rookies and make adjustments in 12 days based on RD1 Lineups!

LHMORWOOD

Any thoughts or changes that should be made Community?

It's been a tough one to decide whether to pick Shiel, Parker or Rockliff as my M5. Which one will be more consistent throughout the year?

DEF: Shaw. Laird. Bartel. M.Brown (Ess). Hartley. K.Collins. (N.Broad & T.Ruggles)

MID: Fyfe. Dangerfield. Pendlebury. Ablett. Shiel. Liberatore. Menadue. Gresham. (Gore, Mathieson, MacPherson)

RUCK: Goldstein. Gawn (Grimley)

FWD: Martin. Barlow. Greene. De Goey. L.McCarthy. S.Kerridge. (Petracca & McDonald-Tipungwuti

LHMORWOOD

Also whether it's worth having Goldy in at that price. Is it worth swapping him for Nic Nat and either upgrading De Goey to Franklin or try to strengthen my defence???

Appreciate the help.

Hawks

Back Goldy in, his the best ruckman by far, and I think will retain if not increase his price.

@randomcliche

Shiel Parker Rocky all great picks, but can't start without Rocky IMO. He is a potential Top 4 player super discounted, the others are just potential top 8 players (i.e. won't beat 4 of danger, baby jesus, teen wolf, pendles, rocky).

Lazy_Simmo

yep well put Random. Rocky is super discount and elite premo. Both Shiel & Parker have great potential & good history but aren't in the same bracket as Rocky.

Ewing

Ablett and Wells OR Cripps and Hall and 40k

Phil

Don't mind Hall, but first one easily

Hell Broke Luce

Greatest of all time and one of the season's biggest locks v two fellas who will be lucky to make the top 10 at their positions

Blueprime

1.

Youllthrashme

Hi – second yr SC player. Have tried to learn and read a bit. Thoughts on my team?

DEF: Laird, Bartel, Salem, Harwood Brown (Ess). Hartley (Lee & T.Ruggles)

MID: Dangerfield, Ablett, Ward, Rockliff, Wines, Gibbs, Liberatore, Crowley (Petracca, Polkinghorne, Mathieson)

RUCK: NicNat, Gawn (Grimley)

FWD: Barlow, Rioli, Hall, Menzel, Wells, Milera (Kerridge, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

@randomcliche

back is a bit skinny, esp at D3/d4. Prolly better to premo/rookie than double trouble. Plenty are running KK and McGovern at slightly more $. Some good PODs. Enjoy Rioli.

Holty

lol.i think the only people who dont start Kerridge this year are people who dont know what AFL is.

HOLLA

Dominating.

tophawk

On fire. Crippsy looks pretty sharp as well for his first hit out. Firmly on my watch list.

magpie4ver

Thinking of trading S.Kerridge into Daisy as a nice POD

Holty

do it. lol

magpie4ver

lol…it was a joke!

magpie4ver

Holty not sure if we are in a league together would love if you joined?? 216911 join if you would like to?

Youngy

No No No No No!

Benjamima Puddleduck

do it, you wont.. =D

magpie4ver

Shaw, T-Mac, Doc, M. Brown, Hartley, K. Collins (ATM, Ruggles)

Fyfe, Pendels, Ablett, R. Gray, Shiel, Libba, D. Wells, Mills (Keays, Mathieson, R. Davis)

Goldy, Gawn (Loersch)

Wingard, Bartel, A. Hall, D. Menzel, Menadue, S. Kerridge (Petracca, Grimely)

Pro. Sc. 1965

$12.4 left in the kitty

SC_Beast

Bartel cannot play fwd this year unfortunately.

magpie4ver

Opps thats Barlow…..I just went to edit but you commented so i couldnt

magpie4ver

Not sure why I typed Bartel??? Brain fart

SC_Beast

ahah innocent mistake, it's a nice looking team!

magpie4ver

Thanks Mate! Subject to Change.

magpie4ver

Shaw, T-Mac, Doc, M. Brown, Hartley, K. Collins (AMT, Ruggles)

Fyfe, Pendels, Ablett, R. Gray, Shiel, Libba, D. Wells, Mills (Keays, Mathieson, R. Davis)

Goldy, Gawn (Loersch)

Wingard, Barlow, A. Hall, D. Menzel, Menadue, S. Kerridge (Petracca, Grimely)

Pro. Sc. 1965

$12.4 left in the kitty

Hawks

Nice team, very similar to mine.

Is it worth having Grimley when you select 2 premo rucks? I could understand having him if you had Tippett to swing? I think there are better forward choices at the same price.

@randomcliche

Love lots of it. I think Bud will beat Wingard at season end, saves $ too.

Brett

G'day community , feels like Christmas is upon us ! Any feedback , would be appreciated… how many ways is there to skin a cat (geelong supporter pun) ! Loads of different strategies around

Rememberthetitans

Shaw , johannisen, t mckenzie, l mcdonald, dea , brown (hartley /ruggles)

Ablett, danger, fyfe, rocky, parker, wines, Libba, kerridge (gore , Mathison, McPherson)

Gawn , z smith ( grimley)

Martin, barlow, hall, wells , b kennedy menadue (petracca , mcdonald-t…..)

Pehaps wines down to mills and spend the cash downback t mac to / laird ?

Finding it hard to justify the initial spend down there , $500k by no means is a lock hundred ! Thoughts ?

Cheers

Brett

*T mckenzie or l mcdonald to a premo

Average Joe

Lot of people feel like that as well brett but I feel that it's a lot better to have at least 2 solid premos in each line (apart from ruck). It will help later on when you can upgrade each line evenly, if you get what I mean. Recommend doing what you said, or simply downgrading mcdonald to a rookie like collins and upgrading another mid-pricer. Less risky but if you nail the mid-pricers you'll be in for a treat of a season

Big Balls

Sammy kerridge ur a star. Just got that feeling itll be a 50 next week but still should be a lock for everyone .

tophawk

Lock it in Eddy!! Kerridge is a no brainer. Callum Mills has now also been locked in my side. Looks the goods.

magpie4ver

Anyone interested in getting in a league?

magpie4ver

League code is 216911 if you are interested looking to play a lot of JR Community Coaches!!!!! You all Studs! Anyone JR Community is welcome!!!!

medadsson

Cheers, I'm in … Astroboys.

magpie4ver

Nice Mate welcome to the league!

Liam

Im in Magpie

magpie4ver

Sweet Mate welcome to the League!!!!!!

hedeski

Ha ha love the name cheers mag

@randomcliche

Boom in. All full.

Holty

wow. Graham has backed up again. for all those who are looking at those NAB bolters, you should have a look at him

tophawk

I know. He is showing some very good early season form. Could be a break out year for him. I probably will not pick him to start with, but if he starts the season proper like this, he could be one to snap up when he goes on the bubble.

Holty

he is just at that awkward price. if he was around the liba/crouch price, he would be very interesting.

magpie4ver

Invited you too Holty

Holty

im in. Bahahaha, love the name.

magpie4ver

Nice….someone with a sense of humor!!!!! Welcome mate and thanks for joining!!!!

tophawk

Callum Mills is a LOCK now IMHO. Very solid again tonight. Kerridge is now obviously slotted in my forward line. The more I see Callum Sinclair play, the more I like him. Value for money at 409K as a R2 alongside Goldy?

magpie4ver

tophawk I would like to invite you to my league if you would like to join? 216911 if you are interested?

tophawk

No dramas. More than happy to join. Cheers!

magpie4ver

Sweet no dramas. All fun good banter!!!!!! Welcome and thanks!!!!!

magpie4ver

Cheers!

Peter56

I have Goldy with Sinclair and set and forget.

@randomcliche

I think if you start Sinclair at R2, don't start Goldy and copy mad mick. 3 other options in gawn, martin, nic nat.

Youngy

If your going to run Sinclair, I feel like he must be run in the fwd line putting him as R2 is way to risky….

Peter56

I know everyone if hooked on Gawn but I am not convinced. By talking Sinclair I can afford Goldy.

It runs with that old agument about being able to afford a better player else where that will make up the point difference between say Nic Nat and Sinclar at the start of the season.

Youngy

I agree, I am not convinced on Gawn at all, not even in the slightest. He hasn't played a season with more than 13 games, and U can get Nic Nat for practically the same price who I believe is less risky and has a bigger upside.

Still believe you should run Nic nat instead of Sinclair. I think the points made up there will be bigger than the money spent somewhere else.

If you where to go Sinclair where would the extra money go?

Peter56

I can upgrade Buddy to Barlow.

Still 10 days to go = at least 30 changes 🙂

Average Joe

Bartel, MacMillan, birchall or docherty? Most will probably say Bartel but can people give me their opinions on the others as well

Youngy

Bartel, not a big fan of the rest

Outforblood

Anyone want to join a highly competitive league 466129 filling fast!,,,

Boyd oh Boyd

S. Martin and Gresham or Naitanui and Mills?

Youngy

Nic Nat and Mills