TEAM REVEAL: Barron Von Crow

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Barron Von CrowCue the grandiose music; it’s time for the big reveal of my 2016 Supercoach squad!

Countless hours, a carton of Carlton Drought, and several arguments with the cat went into the creation of this team, but it has finally been completed and ready to bare witness to the world.

So without further ado, I present to you, the 2016 version of The Red Barrons!


Barron Von Crow Supercoach 2016 team!

Power in the middle

Like many, I’ve invested pretty heavily in my midfield this season, mostly because I’m not as gung-ho about the rookies here as I usually am. I’ve gone with 3 “super-premo” players right out of the gate, with Fyfe, Dangerfield and Ablett and I’m going to believe Rockliff will turn back into one like he was in 2014. I think Callan Ward has a chance to turn into a guy who averages 115 and I’m considering him as the “Matt Priddis” of my team, but for 40K less initially. He averaged 113 in 2014, and with Treloar gone off to Collingwood I can see him having to take up more inside work (his 9 tackle, 10 clearance game in the NAB Cup against Sydney is an example of this), which will lead to a bump in his Supercoach output.

I wanted Brad Crouch in my side, but I can’t select him without having seen him in any NAB action, nor knowing if he’ll be available in Round 1 (though a Parker downgrade may be on the cards if he performs well against the Gold Coast). Libba should immediately bounce back into being a 100+ point scorer and Mills looks to have the best potential of all the rookie midfielders, though you have to pay a slightly inflated price to get him. I’ll just have to bite the bullet on that one.

Putting the D in Defensive!

And that’s just because outside of Laird, Kolo and Bartel, I’m relying on a bunch of D graders and rookie priced players to get the job done down back. Normally I’d go with a few midpricers in defence, but this is probably another case of letting the players dictate my strategy, rather than strategy dictating the players.

I was tossing up between Rory Laird and Brodie Smith, and while I think Laird and Smith will potentially be around the same level by the end of the year, I’m banking on Laird being the more consistent of the two, which is what I’m looking for with so many inexperienced players down back. I’m expecting Kolo to continue the form he put up in the latter half of 2015 and Bartel just needs to bring me a consistent scoring effort and I’ll be happy. The rest of the rookies are just whatever is cheap and who will likely play, though Brown, Hartley and Collins seem pretty locked in at this stage.

Ruck + Risks = Rewards?

The Triple R! Taking risks in the ruck will lead to rewards later in the year. That’s the theory anyways, and it’s about the best one a man of average intellect like myself could come up with that didn’t involve me spending $1.3 million on a set and forget setup.

The first and most obvious reward is the immediate cash savings I get from doing this. Maxy Gawn is the cheapest guy available who’ll likely finish the year as a top 5 ruck, so he gets my R1 spot. But I almost feel that if you aren’t going with a Goldy/$550,000+ player combo here, then you’re better off skipping Goldstein completely and making him a potential upgrade target and hope he’s cheaper down the line.

There are two players who are critical to my theory working and they are Kurt Tippett and Daniel Wells. Obviously the first part is they both need to perform, but as Patch wisely pointed out (and he may have convinced me to try this just by showing the courage to pick him first), the 2nd half of Tippetts 2015 season was fantastic and Wells has been a gun in the past, so we know he can score at a good clip. But the honest truth is I cannot trust Wells to be a season long keeper, even if he does perform to start the year. He’s played like 10 games over the past 2 years, so all I need from him is 8-10 really good games in a row. I just need him to boost his value to the point where I can swing Tippett out of the rucks and into forward line and then upgrade Wells to whoever is the #1 ruck is (hopefully Goldstein at a cheaper price). Then, as long as Tippett plays to his maximum potential, he’ll also be a keeper for me in my forward line. This will hopefully ensure I get the two best ruckman possible, without having to make a large number of trades or invest heavily in the ruck to begin with and then Tippett will also serve as a forward line keeper addition later in the year.

I thought about trying this with Sinclair and saving an extra 80K, but I just don’t think he has as near a high ceiling as Tippett does. It all makes sense in my head, but whether I actually manage to pull it off is another thing entirely.

Upwards, not forwards

Dusty and Barlow pretty much pick themselves; they’re probably the top two picked guys in Supercoach forward lines I imagine. I’ve taken a risk on Tex Walker as my F3. This may be a case of the heart overruling the head, but I believe he can get back to or better his best form of 2012 where he averaged between 101-108 for the 2nd half of the year. Much like with Nick Riewoldt, I’m hoping the decreased interchange cap is a bonus for him. Aaron Hall does look tempting in this spot though. Daniel Wells selection has been explained above and then the rest is filled out with the best forward rookies. Kerridge is an obvious standout, hopefully Petracca gets a run, Grimley may just be there for FWD/RUC swing purposes and McCarthy will just hopefully get a game.

“And here’s why your team sucks…”

And there are plenty of risks I can see, but if we’re honest with ourselves, it’s impossible to construct a side without some sort of risk involved somewhere. First, my rookies could all crap the bed, and with running 3 each in my DEF and FWD lines, that will severely restrict my point output and cash generation if they fail to fire. Then my RRR plan could completely backfire with one or both players involved not living up to expectations. And all it takes is for Walker to have a few quiet games to completely blow my chances early too. About the only part of the ground I’m not worried about is the midfield, which you’d bloody hope so considering I invested so much money in there.

So Community, I now turn my team over to you. Are there any areas where you can see massive failings in my squad? Or does it look pretty darn decent to you?

Let me know in the comments below and we’ll see if we can’t make some lemonade out of my 2016 Supercoach team.



Dan · 08/03/2016 at 18:52

sexy looking team!!

    Rakesh · 08/03/2016 at 20:14

    You can think of Oliver and Matt P. Gazza has got injuries which reoccur. And he will be point of attraction this year. At this stage every team will look good. Ignore Buddy at your own peril. BVC himself will replace at least 6 before round 1.

Engo · 08/03/2016 at 18:56

Could go Walker to Greene & maybe Tippo to Smithie

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 19:23

    I was thinking about Smith, but since he doesn't have the swing I went with Tippo to get that to work.

      Engo · 08/03/2016 at 19:26

      I wouldn't worry to much about the swing in the Rucks.. IMO Smith will avg abit more then Tippo. Personal choice though mate goodluck Barron

        Gord29 · 08/03/2016 at 20:20

        did you not read how he plans to get goldstein in the swing is vital to that plan

Liam · 08/03/2016 at 18:57

Love the look of the team BVC.

Would love to get your thoughts on my team.
DEF: Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Dea, Brown, Hartley (Collins, Byrne-Jones)
MID: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rocky, Shiel, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Mathieson, Clarke, MacPherson)
RUC: Goldy, Gawn (Cox)
FWD: Dusty, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Petracca, Grimley)

Not sure about Goldy and Shaw, would prefer not to pay overs but are probably going to be #1 in their position.
Would love the community's thoughts on my team.
Cheers Liam.

    Wallygout · 08/03/2016 at 19:10

    Liam, this is so like 'Sarah's' team (See. Jocks recent podcast) it is not funny. Copy-cat from Ararat!

      greg · 08/03/2016 at 19:30

      identical to mine mate minus Menadue and a couple of rookies

      Liam · 08/03/2016 at 19:54

      Didn't mean to copy if I did.
      Sorry Sarah

        Sarah · 09/03/2016 at 12:46

        Hi Liam, it's not like I put a patent on my team!! We're all aware of the value players, hence most teams are going to look alike! I'm not worried at all and I like your team!

          Liam · 10/03/2016 at 17:22

          Cheers Sarah

      Sean · 08/03/2016 at 20:21

      shut up mate a lot of teams are very similar like every year, people post their teams on hear for us to draw on and get ideas from. Liam, I think your team is very solid no real risk, trade well and your a chance!

        Liam · 08/03/2016 at 20:38

        Thanks mate.

        magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 13:26

        I agree!

    Rakesh · 08/03/2016 at 20:19

    Liam … If cox is not elevated, you might replace him with some one else. How much balance left! I have almost 80% of players like you.Difference is Ziebell De Goey Franklin and couple of cash cows.

    hedeski · 08/03/2016 at 23:12

    Sweet team Liam. Pay the price. Per Derek.

jockreynolds · 08/03/2016 at 18:59

Love it Barron. Love it. Korcheck in the ruck has me interested mate!

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 19:24

    He's just there for the loophole, Jock!.

      jockreynolds · 08/03/2016 at 19:25

      Great stuff

      Scott · 08/03/2016 at 19:35

      Do Carlton play many Sunday games?

        Marty · 08/03/2016 at 19:43

        They won't play Friday games that's for sure

        @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:13

        10-11 off the top of my head.

      Natedogg · 08/03/2016 at 21:26

      Wouldn't max King be a better loophole R3 as they play a lot of Sunday games apparently Barron????

      LuskinStar · 08/03/2016 at 21:48

      Carlton play the first game of the season so not a great choice for rd1

        BKW · 09/03/2016 at 08:39

        I've done some analysis on this and without giving everything away the blues and dees have good fixtures for loopholling – but look at the numbers yourself and make up your own mind 😉

Engo · 08/03/2016 at 19:05

Give me your thoughts on my Supercoach team please.

Def: Shaw, Bartel, Birchall, Lonergan, Brown, Hartley (Broad, Collins)
Mid: Ablett, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Rockliff, Liberatore, Crouch, Mills, C Ellis (MacPherson, Mathieson, Petracca)
Ruc: Gawn, Z Smith (Cox)
Fwd: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Simpkin, Kerridge, McCarthy, Kommer)

Give me your thoughts and opinions

Korza · 08/03/2016 at 19:07

Sorry Barron,

I'm thinking your in a world of pain. To use the word "hoping", is not the way a new season should be approached. Patch, clearly in my honest opinion, has the better short and long term, team reveals from the celebrities.
I know you will take the above opinion on the chin. You look like a scary dude, please do not hunt me down.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 19:24

    Korza, I'd never dream of it mate. We're all allowed to have our opinions here!

      The benchmark · 08/03/2016 at 20:54

      I'm thinking crouching would have "silenced" you after reading your backline out
      Very risky team but there are no right and wrong teamS 🙂 have a good season

        @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:56

        Crouching does try to silence me, but I can run faster than he can.

Danners · 08/03/2016 at 19:07

Probably the best team out of the website writers so far BVC. Although, I can't see Tex going back to his premo form back in the day, might be good for the Bruyn Manoeuvre though. Very solid team

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 19:26

    Thanks Danners. It might be my Bruyn Manoeuvre, but I'll still be giving the team an entire re-evaluation before the start of the year. Tex included.

The Mountain · 08/03/2016 at 19:12

Thoughts on the team lads. Rookies are set, as it would be with everyone else, only 3.3K left in the kitty

Def:Shaw, Laird, KK, Brown (Ess), Hartley, Collins (N.Broad, Tipungwuti)
Mids: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Mathieson (Freeman, Hibberd, Dunkley)
Rucks, Goldy, Martin (Cox)
Fwd: Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Kommer (Petracca, Grimley)

Cheers Community

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:14

    I like it!

    Peter · 08/03/2016 at 21:25

    Over salary

      Crowmagnon · 08/03/2016 at 22:49

      This is the best team I have seen.

    hedeski · 08/03/2016 at 23:22

    Agree beaut squad mountain man. If ya put mac tip fwd to create swing with brown then moved grimely to r3 you could swing in a ruggles 2dads or somesuch in def and voila. ( excuse mon francoises)

    Stirlsy · 09/03/2016 at 02:32

    It's under budget and very similar to my team. Nice

Keenbutclueless · 08/03/2016 at 19:16

Ballsy and putting it out there.

I agree that your big risk is the 3 on field rookies in Defence.

Can I make a suggestion? Take out Mills. Move Kerridge into M8. Put McCarthy on the field. Move McDonald Tipungwiti forward.

This gives 211k towards a d4. Either find an extra 70k for McDonald (via Laird to Smith or Tippett to Sinclair). Or go with Weitering. The McDonald Tipungwiti move gives you a swing with Brown

Just my 2c. But overall I like it

Whilst I understand Korchek as the loophole option given Carlton Sunday games, the fact that you are playing Grimley now and are looking at a future ruck swing option means you probably need a ruck/fwd in R3

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 19:28

    Thanks for the feedback, Keen! That's certainly a good idea with Mills.

    Grimley should be fine as a FWD I reckon. As long as I'm trading out a forward for a ruck I can swing Tippo forward by himself. I only want to use that 1 trade to bring in Goldstein.

      Blakeyp · 08/03/2016 at 19:47

      Yeah you can swing Tippo forward with the trade of wells. But if you start with Grimley in R3 or have a non playing Ruck/Fwd instead of Korchek would mean you have ruck cover with Tippo all season.

@MitchArnold95 · 08/03/2016 at 19:18

Thoughts lads?

Shaw Smith Sheridan Weitering Brown Hartley (K Collins Ruggles)
Fyfe Danger Ablett Rockcliff Griffin Libba Crouch Mills (Trengrove Keays Gore)
Nic Nat Gawn (loophole)
Martin Barlow Greene De Goey Wells Kerridge (Petracca AMT)

    TED · 08/03/2016 at 19:45

    I love this team ! Who is ruggles ?

      tophawk · 08/03/2016 at 20:13

      Ruggles is a Geelong Rookie who had a good NAB Cup game last weekend. Not sure about his job security, but looks promising.


        hedeski · 08/03/2016 at 23:26

        Won vfl b &f for cats last year. 23 yo mature hopefully gets upgrade after poor Thurlow.

    xxBlindPerkoxx · 09/03/2016 at 13:56

    Probably the worst team I've ever seen.. no offence, stainy.

Benjamima Puddleduck · 08/03/2016 at 19:25

Mills $211K
I really feel there is a couple of better picks that will generate more cash for that spot.

I can see him being the Nakia Cockatoo of 2016.
Just not wuite doing enough for a SC team.

Not even a major issue, but love your team! and that you have Callan Ward

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 19:32

    You certainly could be right, BP. I was really disappointed with the Brisbane/St Kilda game being cancelled because I wanted to see if Keays, Mathieson and Gresham. Gresham especially was a chance for that M8 spot. Still 1 more games left to see though.

      Scott · 08/03/2016 at 19:42

      Reiwold said today Gresham on line for round 1 selection now all he needs to do is get a kick.

Benjamima Puddleduck · 08/03/2016 at 19:26

wuite = quite

Jimmy · 08/03/2016 at 19:27

Interesting team I like it
Thoughts on my team
Laird, KK, johannisen, wietering, m.brown, k.collins: bonner, hibbered
Danger, Pendles, abblet, gaff, rocky, Parker, Libba, Gresham: petracca, long, macpherson
Martin, Gawn: cox
Wingard, Barlow, Greene, Menzel, kerridge, kommer: grimly hammelmann

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:18

    Looks Ok, Jimmy. Looks like you've got a few PODs going for ya. Haven't seen Wingard in many teams at all

      Jimmy · 08/03/2016 at 20:35

      Yea I want to have a unique team your not gonna win anything with the same team as everyone else

REN · 08/03/2016 at 19:28

Laird, Bartel, Harwood, Brown, Hartley, Collins (adams, tippa)

Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Gray, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Petracca (123k x3)

Goldy, Gawn (wyatt)

Dusty, Wingard, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Kommer (grimley, 117k)

Bit light in defence but think it will work. Much better value for money in the other lines and think the rookies back there can do the job

About 5k left

would appreciate the thoughts!

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:34

    Looks solid, REN. Same thinking as me RE DEF rookies.

    Stirlsy · 09/03/2016 at 03:28

    Your really going to need Harwood to step up for you, very solid the rest of team. Lov the Gray pic!!!

West · 08/03/2016 at 19:32

love the team Barron!

my backline is looking similar at the moment. I think brown, hartley, collins, etc can do the job. Will save 100k aswell.

What do you think of Harwood, Barron? Averaged 83 in 2014 but had an injury affected year last year and only played 3 games

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:15

    He did, but it's a tough one. Only had 1 real solid season out of 5-6 would probably mean I stay away.

Nick · 08/03/2016 at 19:34

Love the team here Barron, not messing around with to much mid-price rubbish, trade wisely and this could be worth it, considering last years winner won with Malcheski for 18 rounds a mistake if it happens to be Tex is an easy fix.
Keep up the great work

RobDogs · 08/03/2016 at 19:34

I too am going 3 Rookies on the field in the defense, I figure if I'm taking a risk, there are less points to lose down back. Also am interested in your ruck bench option, if you are using the strategic donut, i would've thought at least pick Chol with forward swing eligibility?

My real question though is how much cash is left over? With three $102K rookies and 3 $117K rookies, what has to give if they are not picked round 1?

Also, while I'm a died in the wool Crows member, I really think there are better options than Tex. Between all of Adelaide's awesome forward line, those points will be shared around and Tex is almost as sharing as Edddddieeeee!

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:20

    I'm banking on the prediction of Tex roaming coming true. They tried it last year early with Jenkins and he can't do it. Not so much about the goals, but the marks and kicks he'll be getting around the ground that'll improve his scores.

    It's a tough one with the rookies for sure. 31K left in my current team, but I guess the worst comes to the worst then I'll have to bite the bullet and swap a midfielder down a little bit.

    Harrison · 09/03/2016 at 09:15

    Hey rob dogs and Barron,

    I have not been able to do it myself in the forward line as I've picked Greene, however I have a huge feeling about another Adelaide forward option. Tom Lynch, you may all be cringing however he got his average back up to 88 last year after a couple of injury years. He is looking extremely fit and gets up the ground as that high half forward link between the lines, which I feel is a very lucrative position in SuperCoach. With this I also believe you can bank on him getting his two goals a game on average which again helps his SuperCoach performance. I believe he will be the surprise packet of the season however finding hard to fit him in with Greene in my side. Wait and see, you heard it hear forst

Benjamima Puddleduck · 08/03/2016 at 19:35

The PuddleDucks current formation

FWD: R.Laird K.Kolo T.Cutler J.Weitering M.Brown M.Hartley

MID: N.Fyfe G.Ablett D.Shiel T.Rockliff L.Parker P.Cripps M.Duncan T.Libertore

RUCK: M.Gawn Z.Smith

FWD: J.Gunston S.Gray S.Johnson D.Menzel S.Kerridge C.Petracca

Not sold on Weitering or Z.Smith yet.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:34

    Few risks there, gone for a team of Pods up forward!

      Benjamima Puddleduck · 08/03/2016 at 22:01

      Big on the PODs up front, and in the mids to a certain extent.
      Cripps/Duncan then Shiel/Parker there all in for a big year!

      Not sure why there hasnt been alot of talk on Gunston. Has the potential to ave over 100 while roughy is out.
      Johnson is the type of player that will want have a massive year, just to prove a point that he still can do it.
      S.Gray, well i just have that feeling he will be alot more than what people expect.

    Stirlsy · 09/03/2016 at 03:33

    Libba at M8 first time iv seen that, GL

Henno · 08/03/2016 at 19:36

Relying on Tippo is like letting your dog play inside. It's fun to begin with but eventually he shits all over the joint! Worth noting his 2015 finish was without The Bud. And Bud's back.

Nice mid, but I think there's better value than Gazza n Danger. They will be cheaper come round 4 IMO.

Anyways, good luck. Also worth noting I have never finished in the top 1000.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:22

    Haha, it could end up that way, but he's gonna spend plenty of time in the ruck away from Buddy. Then if he can swap forward and stil jag a goal or two, all the better.

    Will likely get Fyfe and Danger cheaper, but they're gonna be there all year, and they'll score well, so they'll keep my head above water at worst.

    Pete · 08/03/2016 at 20:34

    I'll admit that it's possible danger is overpriced but are we talking about the same gazza here?!! I know we got burned last year but if Gary abblett jr lines up round 1 even without a practice match then this man is a LOCK!!

    Cozza · 08/03/2016 at 22:53

    U really think Ablett and danger are poor value?? Very safe set and forgets imo. Even if they are cheaper in rd4, is anyone going to have enough cash to bring them in then? Yard wasting trades early if you are planning that.

Gold Rush · 08/03/2016 at 19:36

Not bad, how much left in the Kitty?, Crowie

Dasha · 08/03/2016 at 19:37

love love love it

Shaun · 08/03/2016 at 19:41

Few very unique picks there but I like it .
Would love thoughts on my team .

DEF – Shaw , laird , Sheridan , weitering , m.brown , m.hartley ( tipungwanti , k.collins )

MID – Fyfe , Ablett , Priddis , Sidebottom , Rockliff , Liberatore , Francis , Menadue ( petracca , Mathieson , MacPherson )

RUCK – Martin , Gawn ( Cox)

FWD – Montagna , Barlow , S.Gray , D. Menzel , Wells , Kerridge ( Grimley , Gallucci )

$68.7k in bank

Thanks .

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:23

    Not a lot of PODS true, but they'll potentially come through trade time and I can't pick a guy just for the sake of being unique either.

    Sarah · 08/03/2016 at 23:28

    Not sure about Sam Gray but if you think he'll average around 95, go for it.
    Love Montagna as a POD, should have another good year.
    Wouldn't go near Menzel, to unreliable health wise.
    Solid mid's and rucks. Good looking team.

      Big balls · 09/03/2016 at 14:32

      Thanks Sarah , what do you think the better option is here Martin down to tippet in ruck and Menzel up to Greene (more money in bank) or Gawn down to Smith in ruck and Menzel up to Greene (less money in bank ) ?

Motsy · 08/03/2016 at 19:42

Barron mate, can I ask why you've gone tippet over Sinclair?

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:24

    Reckon he'll finish averaging more. Sinclair doesn't massively impress me as a forward, and he seems to be spending all his time up there! Tippo can at least bat above average in both areas.

      Xmxnxn · 17/03/2016 at 19:05

      How are you going to switch Daniel wells into the rucks?

    Kev · 08/03/2016 at 20:39

    He addressed that Motsy.
    "I just don’t think he has as near a high ceiling as Tippett does"

    SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 22:30

    Tippett also has more runs on the board and we really don't know what Sinclair's true footy potential is yet.

    Tippo's durability could be seen as a concern but he did manage 22 games last season including 2 finals where he averaged a whopping 125 in his last 5 games (from 3 h&a and 2 finals).

SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 19:44

Love it to bits Barron!

I've been favouring the identical structure for most of the preseason with Bartel at D3, Libba and Mills at M7/M8 and Wells at F4.

I'm sure we would agree to disagree on a few premos here or there but I'd more or less be happy to start with this side myself.

Btw don't let the community talk you out of Mills. The kid is all class and has a SC friendly game with great DE that the Swans sorely need, so assuming he plays Rd1 (as I expect he will) he is securely padlocked in Addicts.

    Liam · 08/03/2016 at 20:01

    Going deep in the mids seems to be they way to go.
    Are you not going for the likes of Goldy and Shaw in order to go deeper in the mids ?

      SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 20:23

      I patently refuse to pay $600K plus for Heater Shaw so no way he will start in Addicts unless he cracks a double ton in NAB3 and even then I'd still have to think about it! 🙂

      Goldy will be a likely starter although I intend to fully review all ruck options and combos in the lead up to Rd1. If I can't squeeze him into my final side with other spend priorities elsewhere then so be it – but he's in for now.

      How about you? What are your thoughts on Shaw and Goldy?

        Liam · 08/03/2016 at 20:37

        Goldy yes, but not sure. I might need to downgrade to add another premo in the mids.
        It's a no to Shaw, currently have Laird, KK, Bartel then rooks. As you said it's to big a price tag and I can't see him averaging the 110's from last year. Will pick him up later

        Stirlsy · 09/03/2016 at 04:14

        Goldy yes I just cant go past his games frome rnd 5 to 10 cant see him falling below 630k unless he gets hurt early in a game and expect him to be high 600s come game 10. So you either start him or run without him all year IMO.
        No for Shaw he is way overs and should be able to pick him up rnds 8 to 10 60k cheaper at least.

    SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 20:09

    He is locked in my team as well. Hope he gets a bit of midfield time, but he may get a role off the half back.

      Liam · 08/03/2016 at 20:13

      I think that role will be more beneficial for his score.
      Will be looked at to deliver the ball from the half back line.

        Stirlsy · 09/03/2016 at 04:15

        Will score big at the SCG

      SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 20:28

      I still expect him to score well even running off half back and be a nice little earner come upgrade time.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:25

    Thanks, SCaddict.

    Mills will likely stick in my side atm, unless I get desperate for cash early

      uDonkey · 09/03/2016 at 01:36

      BVC love the team mate. Just what i was thinking going heavy in mid and few risks here and there. Talked me into getting Ward and Rocky, initially i had Priddis and i was thinking of getting Rocky also wanted Ward in my team.

      I too leaving out Goldy hoping he'll drop in price.

Marty · 08/03/2016 at 19:48

@Baron. Some solid picks in there. Are you not worried about Bartel playing only 16-18 games this year? (CScott mentioned this as likely)
Also I see Tex and Tippet as you biggest risks overall. Big nads to pick one let alone two. Good luck. I'd ditch one pricey midfielder of yours to up the content of your fwd and backlines myself. Thoughts?

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:27

    It is a concern Marty, but I want his consistency to begin with. If I have to trade him out later in the year I will, but with 3 starting rookies back there I don't want to take a chance on Docherty. Now if I had Shaw instead of Bartel, then I'd probably go for someone like him instead.

    And I could downgrade a midfielder a bit, but I am a bit in love with the big names across there!

Ewing · 08/03/2016 at 19:49

Wingard OR Hall? Which out of these 2 will average higher. I can save 100 k if I choose hall instead of Wingard. thoughts?

    Shaun · 08/03/2016 at 20:08


    Youngy · 09/03/2016 at 18:08


RobDogs · 08/03/2016 at 19:50

Anyone interested, I have a league to fill, 'Down the Gutz' code 527655. I ranked 157 last season so hoping for some serious coaches.

    Tom · 08/03/2016 at 21:33

    hi RobDogs, Ive just joined mate. Been a long time super coacher so hopefully i give you a run for your money. So you know who I am my team name is the 5045.
    Cheers mate, good luck this year!

      Vindude · 09/03/2016 at 12:15

      Hi Tom / RobDogs
      Silly question but I've tried to find where to actually "join a league" but couldn't find it under the leagues section. Can you direct me exactly where it is ?

tyler101 · 08/03/2016 at 19:51

Heavy midfield when parker is squeezed in at M6. Hopefully Tippett can reach his ceiling, rare he gets the best defender and swinging into the ruck he could be underpriced.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:28

    That's the thinking, Tyler. It'll either be Patch and Barron's Excellent Adventure with Kurt Tippett, or Patch and Barron's Bogus Journey with Kurt Tippett.

Ethan017 · 08/03/2016 at 20:00

Anyone want to join superdraft league
must draft on the draft day

Jambo · 08/03/2016 at 20:01

Love your team, Barron. If you are picking McCarthy with the hope, he might play. I would look elsewhere.
Your midfield looks fierce. I might be wrong but Parish looks a much stronger prospect than Mills. Both may be playing all season but Parish will likely be 'in the guts.' We shall see what happens. I love the look of your defence especially.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:29

    Definitely no rookies locked in at this stage, Jambo. I don't like his chances massively, so he could very well be moved up to Menadue should he be named and should I not need to spend my spare cash anywhere else.

John smith · 08/03/2016 at 20:02

Def: Laird, Birchall, Sheridan, Lonergan, Weitering, Brown (Hartley, Collins)
Mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Priddis, Shiel, Rockliff, Liberatore, Mills, Gore (Keays, Mathieson, Davis)
Ruck: Martin, Gawn (Cox)
Fwd: Montagna, Martin, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer, Grimley)

Thoughts everyone????

    Scott · 08/03/2016 at 20:13

    I like some of your PODS Birchall and Montagna especially and not many picking Priddis. Can Sheridan hold down D3? Not sure about Gore, haven't really seen enough of him but there may be better talent elsewhere.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:33

    Nice. Few risks down back with the mid pricers, but if they play to potential you'll be laughing

      John smith · 08/03/2016 at 22:20

      Yeah the backline is where to take the risk I reckon

      Rookies are subject to change via Rd 1

      Maybe maybe not we will see

wombatsfc · 08/03/2016 at 20:05

Sound logic. Rookie fwds and Def that can equal midpricers and no passengers in the middle.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:30

    Thanks, Wombats. That's the idea with the midfield this year I reckon, should be minimal upgrades across there.

I N Pieman · 08/03/2016 at 20:06

Your absolutely right Baron. You can't construct a team without risk somewhere. 3 million short of that option. The Tex call is a heart call. If the Crows had a friendly opening draw I could understand it. But the opening 8 games are a nightmare. My guess is he won't be there round 1. Other than that I like almost all of your team. Risk, pods & well thought out selections. Good luck this year mate

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:32

    Cheers, Pieman.

    It definitely is a heart call, and I'll seriously need to reconsider it prior to Round 1, but I reckon Tex is a guy who makes love to pressure, I'm not worried about him not performing against tough teams (now the rest of the Crows, that could be something else!). Aaron Hall certainly does make a case for F3.

Hugh · 08/03/2016 at 20:06

Would love to hear thoughts on my team??

DEF: Shaw, Kolodjashnij, Smith, Weitering, Brown, K.Collins (S.Collins, Bonner)

MID: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Shiel, Rockliff, Liberatore, B.Crouch, Parish (Gore, Mathieson, Macpherson)

RUCKS: Martin, Naitanui (Grimley)

FWD: Martin, Barlow, A.Hall, D.Menzel, Kerridge, Petracca (T.Phillips, A. M-T)

$22 500 leftover

SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 20:11

G'day Barron, nice team.

If your having second thoughts on the big Texan, Aaron Hall is around that price.

Also thoughts on Weitering Barron?

    'Don't Blush Babbie' · 08/03/2016 at 20:25

    I have Hall as my F3

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:32

    Exactly who I was thinking of as Plan B, SC_Beast.

      SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 20:39

      No worreis Barron, he is my F3 currently

    SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 20:38

    Hall does look quite appealing and has attended heaps of centre bounces in the NAB. Of course the Suns regular midfield brigade has barely been sighted in the past 18 months so what means for Hall's numbers when they inevitably return remains to be seen.

    I'd still personally take him easily over a KPP like Tex though.

      OldOcker · 08/03/2016 at 22:06

      SCaddict, Hall sounds good option but NAB form is unreliable.

      Eade who I am starting to put in the same bracket as Lyon, Said that Jesse Lonergan will be spending a lot more time in the middle.
      Hard to make decision on that for me at the moment but Hall should get enough time there to improve.

        SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 15:57

        Ocker mate do a team reveal!

james · 08/03/2016 at 20:16

my mate thinks he has a better team than me so who's is better and why

my team
Def- boyd laird rich lonegan hartley collins (lee brown)
Mid- danger priddis sidebum shiel rockliff duncan libba clarke (matheson macpherson adamson)
Ruck- gawn smith
Fwd- zorko barlow lynch (adl) wells milera kerridge (grimley walla)

mates team
Def- laird macmillan mcgovern cutler hartley brown (broad collins)
Mid- danger mundy priddis ward steven rockliff libba greasham (clarke matheson marcon)
Ruck- martin gawn
Fwd- wingard barlow hall kennedy kerridge mccarthy (walla adams)

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:39

    You'll know who's better at the end of the year!

    Tough split, each have their pros and cons, but overall I'd probably rate yours higher, though I like your mates F3 of Hall a bit better than Lynch.

@BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:17

Thanks, Nick.

I reckon worst comes to the worst with Tex I can trade him for a Hall / De Goey type early if they perform, or total downgrade to a rookie. Let's hope it doesn't come to that though!

Sheriffs Big Rig · 08/03/2016 at 20:22

serious supercoaches join my league 726568

    Tom · 08/03/2016 at 21:36

    just joined big rig, Hope to give you a run for your money this year. Cheers mate Tom (The 5045)

Gord29 · 08/03/2016 at 20:23

i would personally start grimley as ruck 3 you will still be able to move tippet into the fwd line via the wells trade it will just give you that cover later on in the year and more cash generation as you will be able to pick up another fwd rookie. I to have thought of starting tippet in the ruck but currently have him in the forward line and taking a risk on big mummy to pump out a few massive scores early and then turn him into Goldstein if/when he gets injured

BACKS – KK Docherty Sheridan Weitering Brown (ess) Hartley Bench- Collins Tipungwuti
MID – Dangerfield Ablett Shiel Rockliff Parker Liberatore Mills Parish
Bench – Jansen Kerridge Cunningham
RUCKS – Mumford Gawn
Bench – Grimley
FWDS – Martin Barlow Tippet Greene Wells Kennedy
Bench – Kommer Petracca

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:40

    Taking the 0 for the R3 for the captains loophole. The idea being that it'll generate me more points in the long run through bonus captain points, rather than a minimal 30-40 points on the bench and a little bit of cash generation.

      Gord29 · 08/03/2016 at 20:46

      fully understand that i personally just like the fact of having cover later on in the year

        @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:58

        Both tactics definitely have merit.

Swans2012 · 08/03/2016 at 20:23

Love it Barron, I've taken Sinclair for the same swinging purposes you've mentioned with Tippett, for me they should have similar outputs (maybe Tippett slightly over Sinclair) but I've taken Sinclair over Tippett purely to free up the cash, although another good nab from smith might have me leaning that way although ruins the swing. Was originally taking blicavs to swing into the guts to allow goldy in but not convinced from his nab performances so Sinclair it is!

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:41

    I did consider Sinclair for the same reason, but Smith could be a great pick too.

      Swans2012 · 08/03/2016 at 21:04

      I seem to be rotating between a hard out gnr approach and a semi midprice mad approach each week
      Check this out for version 444
      Laird bartel Sheridan Hartley brown amt (a damson, Byrne jones)
      Danger Pendle Ablett rockliff Parker viney Libba mills
      (Mthieson keays d-mac)
      Nicnat, Sinclair (lowersch)
      Martin Barlow s gray a hall wells kerridge (petracca grimley)
      For some reason I like it although I know I should really be doing something about the defensive line but I just don't have the confidence in any of the options available. I'd much rather a Sam gray than a similar priced kk, likewise a hall as opposed to say d rich. I just think the value (and points) are up forward!
      Happy for any opinions, I'm sure I'm nowhere near settled on this side.

        Randomclcihe · 10/03/2016 at 11:14

        Amt? Is that atm short for rookie cash making machine? If so love it. Seems people are happy to invest $ in mid ruc but not def… I def don't agree…not seeing enough people trying to make the most of this line. Maybe I'm missing something….

          Swans2012 · 10/03/2016 at 12:15

          I dunno cliche, I just don't see many options down back with the point generating capacity of the other lines. Seems like more risk than reward. Also seems less differential between rookie to premo/successful midpricers scores in defense than other lines, hence my rookie stockpile down back. Just my take though, haven't crunched the numbers to back it up….

          Oh and Amt= Anthony McDonald tipungawuti

Jess · 08/03/2016 at 20:25

Does anyone have a solid plan for their loophole options?

I find a loophole rookie to be one of the most vital players in a team, as they have the potential to earn you 20, 30 or 40+ points additional points a week.

At the moment I'm thinking a cheap rookie ruck with DPP and Grimley up forward – spend the extra 20,000k elsewhere. Thoughts?

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:41

    Exactly what I've gone with, Jess.

    SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 20:41

    That will likely be the 'go to' plan for most coaches including me.

      Marco_Polo94 · 08/03/2016 at 20:49

      Do you think there is more benefit to having a loophole option, over every rookie playing and creating cash generation?

        @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:59

        That just comes down to personal preference really.

        Both have pros and cons.

        SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 21:17

        Probably need a mathematical mind far greater than mine like Higgo to work that out, and the answer would probably change anyway depending on the particular players and scenarios involved.

        All I know is fully exploiting the captain's loophole advantage can be a significant factor in deciding close league matches.

        But yes you need to weigh this up against the opportunity cost of perhaps making an extra $150K or so with another playing rookie.

        Although we must also remember that we can't cash out every rookie we'd like to with the limited trades we have available anyway so is that $150K really lost cash generation after all??

          Marco_Polo94 · 08/03/2016 at 21:23

          cheers, both good points.

          Kudos · 08/03/2016 at 21:56

          Hey SCaddict, I always find your comments very insightful and thought provoking, great stuff!

          Barron, I think your team is well thought out and takes the right amount of risks (still to be proven if they are in fact risks at all), personally I would love to see a KPP like Tex go on a rampage this year and ave 100+…would be awesome to watch!

            Jess · 08/03/2016 at 22:32

            Hi thanks for the reply – it provides a little bit of assurance.

            Think a strict guns and rookies is the way to go this year (so many cheap premiums and good rookies). Theres always a few players who dont make the $ and worthy of trading, so with this logic, im happy to throw in a cheap dud loophole.

              Jess · 08/03/2016 at 22:37

              In terms of essendon, I think their performance will be similar to GWS's first season. Note that the giant rookies all performed quite well. Very tempted to pack in the likes of Z Merret etc.

    Swans2012 · 08/03/2016 at 21:13

    Personally I try to find a rookie who looks likely to play around the mid seasonish (or even round 5-6). If they play then normally By then non players should be popping up in your team and if not, you get a free hit downgrading a fat lamb to any old non player rather than waiting for the latest bubble boy to appear. Worked well for me last year with Hugh goddard….but from memory didn't work so well the year before.

    hedeski · 08/03/2016 at 23:44

    Going Loersch / King as r3 possibly as a swap with Grimely d8. Suns have a lot of late games like melb and Loersch is cheap.
    I also am not sure about having a floating jam filled bastard that could be earning coin?

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 14:16

      Loersch isn't dpp is he? If going grimely at f8 better off to go king creating the dpp swing.

        hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 14:33

        Yeah mate ruck/fwd bargain basement

          Crowmagnon · 09/03/2016 at 18:49

          and he is never going to play before Little Baby Jesus. Loersh =lock for me.

            hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 22:58

            Bang bang cromagman

nick · 08/03/2016 at 20:26

Hi barron this id my team i agree with u on rocky and callen ward. This is my team oh yeah guys dont take mitch brown he wont make u money he is a waste of talent.

H shaw. B houli M rosa. P seedsman M dea. M heartly bench collins ruggles

Fyfe. Danger. Rocky. Libby. J stevens. C ward M crouch. C oliver. Bench gore mathieson davis

Gwan z smith bench cox

Hawkins. D menzil D martin. J stringer. S kerradge W milera. Bench yarren a.m.t

I have picked hawk as i feel he will kick bags and bags of goals and he will take lots of marks too. Also d menzil should be in everyones team sit back and watch the menzil show. So what do u guys think

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:42

    Few guys lime Rosa and Seedsman might be a bit risky, but that's the nature of midpricers. I reckon Hawkins will have a better year with Danger winning contested ball in the middle for the Cats

Patch · 08/03/2016 at 20:27


You've chucked into action a plan I've long considered but not had the balls to actually implement: Tippett at R2. Ballsy as anything on the site this year mate and I love it. Callan Ward is a superb pick and Luke Parker is also now in my side.

The elephant in the room is Tex Walker, but you go hard or you go home and you have bull rushed it right in the face, my friend. This team will do some serious kicking and I hope for one I'm not on the end of a booting!

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:44

    Thanks, Patcho.

    He certainly is the elephant in the room. Still 50/50 on him, PhantonSC on Twitter was gunning me up to pick Tex, but he might just be stirring me to see if I'd actually do it!

      Patch · 08/03/2016 at 20:49

      Well might serve you right for gunning me to pick Currie at R2! Although feel Tex might have slightly better output than Currie…

      I wish you best of luck with him (on weeks we're not playing each other, of course!). I love this team the more and more I look at it.

        OldOcker · 08/03/2016 at 21:09

        What is wrong with Currie at R2?

          SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 21:25

          Ocker do you wanna join my league?

          Patch · 08/03/2016 at 23:08

          Can't see him scoring more than 60 with Nicholls in the side, never mind holding his spot.

Marco_Polo94 · 08/03/2016 at 20:34

I think that is a very solid team, enough risk to stay ahead of the pack anyway! I think it is essential to have a ruck swing option to cover the big blokes who go down with injury (WHICH THEY ALWAYS DO), but I just can't decide which way I go. Agree with the ruck choice theory too in regards to having an upgrade option if you haven't got Goldy. Atm Smith is my R2, but could change after the final NAB games.

    Marco_Polo94 · 08/03/2016 at 20:36

    Surprised we haven't seen Menzel in any team reveals yet.. is the only thing scaring people away his injury concerns? Suppose there is a lot of risk there if he goes down at that price it's hard to upgrade.

      SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 22:50

      I think he's fantasy relevant and maybe even a good selection but it's just that we don't have much to work with in terms of historic data.

      Back in 2011 when he played those 17 games he only averaged 63 although I'm guessing that was vest affected as that was the first year of the sub rule.

      Since then he's played just 2 games in 4 years, although one was a corker in Rd 22 last season, which is a tiny sample size. Actually I'm surprised his price wasn't discounted further given all the missed footy like Morabito.

      But his biggest selection problem is when you compare him to a proven premo like Wells who is even cheaper. Hard to fit both in as well as get on all the other attractive rookie forwards available this season.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:45

    Thanks, Marco.

    The big guys are always trouble, just gotta ride it out as best as I can.

    Smith should be a very good R2 this year as long as he stays healthy.

tophawk · 08/03/2016 at 20:35

Been doing a bit more tinkering after last weekends challenges games.

Current side looks like this;

Def- Shaw, Laird, Johanissen, Weitering, Brown (Ess), Hartley (K.Collins, Ruggles)
Mid- Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, S.Gray, Liberatore, Mills (Mathieson, Keays, Mac Pherson)
Ruc- Gawn, Smith (Wyatt)
For- D.Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Petracca, Mc Donald-Tipungwuti)

Hit me with feedback community. Cheers

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:48

    I like it Tophawk. Gray in the middle is interesting, but you can swing him forward as well, which is a bonus.

      tophawk · 08/03/2016 at 22:29

      Thanks Barron. I really like your side mate.

      Just so you know I am also a Taylor Walker tragic. I had him last year, and after round one I was in heaven! But after that he struggled.

      His best is bloody amazing. If he can only grow that Mulett hairstyle back!! I just can't pick him right now.


    DuckingTigers · 08/03/2016 at 20:59

    Have a look at the first team you picked compared to this one. Are you taking long term, solid judgement calls or letting each game, comment or media report sway your selections like a tree in the wind?

      tophawk · 08/03/2016 at 22:08

      I call it as I see it DT.

      In the preseason many players (Like myself) make adjustments on a weekly basis. My side has a core structure, but everything else is fair game. Now is the time to do it, because as of round 1, you no longer have this luxury. You then have 30 trades. Period.

      DT, if you have my first team, can you send it to me? Love to see how my side has evolved.


    Swans2012 · 09/03/2016 at 09:06

    im with you on s gray and a hall top hawk, yours is the only other team I've seen with both….

SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 20:39

G'day Barron (back again) another question:

How do you plan on getting Heater?

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:47

    Hoping someone tags him and he drops 100K!

    (He said as all the people with Shaw in their teams called him rude names)

      SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 21:57

      Yes I hope someone sits on him but I don't know if many teams play a defensive forward?

tyler101 · 08/03/2016 at 20:48

what do you think of Macmillan from North as a D2 over KK? First uninterrupted pre season and North love him as their number 1 rebounding defender. Moved into leadership group and without injuries could be a great POD but would love to hear thoughts

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 20:54

    I had a look at him, but decided to play a bit safer and follow Kolo into 2016. He's only in 1.1% of teams atm, so he'll be a massive POD if you do pick him.

      West · 08/03/2016 at 21:07

      I really like JMAC.

      Average 95+ when you take out the injury affected scores. Reckon he could be a really good pick this year

    Eric_the_Red · 08/03/2016 at 21:16

    I like him. Currently sitting at D2 in my team behind Laird. Join the 1.1% mate.

DuckingTigers · 08/03/2016 at 20:53

"There are two players who are critical to my theory working and they are Kurt Tippett and Daniel Wells."

Jordan · 08/03/2016 at 20:54

Is cockatoo a worthy pick or is Gresham good enough

    Derek · 08/03/2016 at 23:31

    Stay clear of the rookies from the good teams

Holty · 08/03/2016 at 20:59

Cheers Baron for a sneak peak of your team.
Who do you and the community think i should pick from Greene and Hall?

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 21:06

    Thanks, Holty

    I'd probably go for Hall. GWS will have a lot of talent up forward (especially with Devon Smith to return too), so might have an odd quieter game.

      Holty · 08/03/2016 at 21:15

      cheers bud. i was opting going the other way as i felt Greene could become more of a keeper when Gold Coasts midfield returns. But as i and the rest of the community respects your great wisdom, i might have to rethink this final choice.

        @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 21:22

        Neither are bad picks, and you are right about Hall and the other GC mids, but if they don't come back for a couple of months and Hall plays like he did in 2015, he should make a good amount of cash.

    OldOcker · 08/03/2016 at 21:49

    Holty out of the two I would definitely go Hall,
    Greene butchers the ball too much and needs to improve skill errors.

      Holty · 08/03/2016 at 21:57

      agree ocker. he is similar to swanny. can get 40 touches for 95 points some games. He does get his hands on the ball though. i think i may need to think of this final choice a bit harder.

    SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 23:10

    Here's one vote for the Greene Machine. Hall looks a good option too but right now I have Greene at F3 in my side.

@BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 21:07

I'd say Gresham should be good enough. Didn't see enough from the Cock yet to say he'll be heaps better in year 2.

    Jordan · 08/03/2016 at 21:09

    Or mills

@grayson_lowee · 08/03/2016 at 21:12

I dont quite no why but i really like my team right now, im strongly considering locking it however if anyone has any changes they think i should make then please let me know 🙂

R.Laird, K.Kolodjashnij, J.Bartel, T.Sheridan, J.Weitering, M.Brown. (D.Byrne-Jones, D.Tucker)

P.Dangerfield, G.Ablett, D.Shiel, T.Rockliff, O.Wines, T.Liberatore, C.Mills, D.Parish. (C.Menadue, J.Gresham, R.Mathieson)

N.Naitanui, M.Gawn (M.Korcheck (Loophole))

H.Bennell, M.Barlow, Z.Merrett, D.Wells, S.Kerridge, C.Petracca. (L.McCarthy, S.Grimley)

I think i could possibly break the top 1k-5k in rankings with this team, ive only got two slightly risky mid pricers, so hopefully they work out for me. Thoughts?

    Eric_the_Red · 08/03/2016 at 21:18

    I'm not sold on Sheridan. Good luck to you, but I don't trust Lyon. Who knows what will happen come round 1. I would take Martin over Bennell.

    Derek · 08/03/2016 at 23:29

    Who out of NicNat and Gawn are you going to get rid of to bring Goldy in?

      @grayson_lowee · 09/03/2016 at 18:49

      Most likely Nic Nat, not sold on him yet, and honestly it depends on form

    Chill · 09/03/2016 at 09:34

    You are using Korcheck as a loophole but have Grimley in your fwd line. Wouldn't you prefer a ddp ruck rookie so you can swap with grimley if you lose nic nat or gawn to injury?

Jimma · 08/03/2016 at 21:22

got 120k in the bank, in a pickle and need your thoughts

Wells and Fyfe or Shiel and Billings


    SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 21:26

    Fyfe and Wells

Luviboy1 · 08/03/2016 at 21:22

Brilliant team Barron. If you can swing those risky picks and strategies your way, youre in for a good season mate.

Community what are our thoughts on Devon Smith? Do we think he can pick up 10 points on his avg last year and avg around 100? Is he too inconsistent? Currently have him as my F3. Who are some other sub 500k options I could be looking at?

    Liam · 08/03/2016 at 21:26

    Prefer Greene over Smith

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 21:49

    Thanks Luviboy, that was my thinking too!

    SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 21:56


    BKW · 09/03/2016 at 08:55

    I've been considering Stringer, Greene and Hall for F3 – or downgrading elsewhere to go up to Wingard

Tom · 08/03/2016 at 21:25


    Chill · 09/03/2016 at 08:45


    Beezneez · 10/03/2016 at 16:59


SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 21:26

Is Weitering worth the money BVC?

    West · 08/03/2016 at 21:30

    depends where youre looking at slotting him IMO.

    D3 – Yes
    D4 – No

      SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 21:56

      D3 for weitering is bloody light on in defence West mate!

        West · 08/03/2016 at 22:03

        Oh shit meant; D4- Yes and D5- No.

        Haha sorry mate

    Liam · 08/03/2016 at 21:31

    Prefer BVC

      Liam · 08/03/2016 at 21:40

      Don't know what's wrong with me.
      I meant Dea

Glenn · 08/03/2016 at 21:26





Let me know what u think mate

    @footy_bec · 09/03/2016 at 08:52

    I really like the Pittard pick, he might go big this year.

      Glenn · 09/03/2016 at 10:01

      Yeah he is coming good, gets plenty of it if he can get effiency up a bit could have a break out hooefully

George · 08/03/2016 at 21:27

Have been trialling a similar strategy all year, but with a few structural differences, focusing more on midpricers and value. What do you think community? 6.7k left
D: Laird, McGovern, Sheridan, Weitering, Hartley, Brown (Ess), (Collins, AMT)
M: Fyfe, Danger, Ward, Shiel, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills (Gore, Mathieson, Macpherson)
R: Gawn, Tippett (Chol)
F: Dusty, Barlow, Stringer, De Goey, Wells, Kerridge (Petracca, Grimely)

HOLLA · 08/03/2016 at 21:31

I like your team BVC! A little out there but im picking up what you have put down. I like a risk.

Here is what im putting down.

Shaw….laird…KK…Docherty….Hartley. ….k.collins


Nic nat….gawn


    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 21:48

    Looks good, HOLLA.

    DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 18:19


@HeiroDAB · 08/03/2016 at 21:32

Personally Ive gone in favor of fellow team mate the Lynched Nut over Old Texan! Tossed it up for quite some time. But to get that I also chosen 1 extra MID rookie in the as think there could be more value there than down FWD with rookies early on. So 4 MID – PREM in FWD line Montag, Dustin, Barlow n Lynch Nut.

    @HeiroDAB · 08/03/2016 at 21:34

    ALSO gone with ROSA over KADE. The kade will fade, once burnt must evade.

    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 21:48

    Lynch should be a good pick too. He's scored very well over the preseason so far.

Steeeve · 08/03/2016 at 21:35

Pendles and Bartel
Parker and Shaw

    chrpac · 08/03/2016 at 21:50

    parker and shaw, bartel is getting on in age

      BKW · 09/03/2016 at 08:57


OldOcker · 08/03/2016 at 21:37

Looking good Baron, Very hard to select a team without taking reasonable risks this year.
I have gone very similar but Set and forget Rucks and weaker in the Mids.
Re-thinking my ruck strategy due to the amount of money tied up there but I don't want to start Without Goldy.


    @BarronVonCrow · 08/03/2016 at 21:47

    I had Goldy/Nic Nat most of the pre-season, but wanted the extra mid, so Goldy had to go. Definitely worth starting with him though.

      OldOcker · 08/03/2016 at 21:51

      I don't think we have seen anything like Goldy since the Great years of Dean Cox. He will be No1 ruck again this year.

        SC_Beast · 08/03/2016 at 21:55

        G'day Ocker, you should do a team reveal mate?

          HOLLA · 08/03/2016 at 22:03


          que · 08/03/2016 at 22:06

          So should you Beast 😉

            SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 07:14

            Me? I'm not worthy

chrpac · 08/03/2016 at 21:41

Lads and Ladettes,

What are your thoughts on Zac Tuohy this year? He had a good year last year and I think he could have a bigger year this year.



Chill · 08/03/2016 at 21:42

best ruck rookie to use for a loophole? i have wyatt…

    chrpac · 08/03/2016 at 21:45


      West · 08/03/2016 at 21:47

      grimley will play.

      Use Max King if you want someone with the most sunday games and dpp or just choose someone like Wyatt/Korcheck if you want to save 15k

        SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 21:57

        Yes they'd be my choices too and if your midfield and rucks are as stacked with superstars as most it probably won't be too hard to find a good VC option most weeks either way you go.

      chrpac · 08/03/2016 at 21:49

      disregard my response lol, didn't read the question accurately

Liam · 08/03/2016 at 21:52

Great side Barron.
Would love to get your opinion on my conundrum.
I am deciding between two options.
Shaw, Gresham, Dea
Lonergan, Parker, Ruggles

Cheers Liam

    Derek · 08/03/2016 at 22:42

    Lonegran is not a keeper, is not a cash cow, won't score well and will be a major regret. Find the extra cash and get a keeper or look for a cash cow rookie.

Luke · 08/03/2016 at 21:58

Shaw and Broad (Defence)
Ward and B. Kennedy/C. Menadue (Midfield)

    Blueprime · 08/03/2016 at 22:09


    TRIGGER HAPPY · 08/03/2016 at 22:23


conor · 08/03/2016 at 22:11

thoughts on callum sinclair?

    chrpac · 08/03/2016 at 22:56

    stay away

The Ranger · 08/03/2016 at 22:31

I love the commitment this team demonstrates BVC.
You've thought it thru, got a plan and put it in place. Top work!
The Tex pick is bloody ballsy, hope it comes off for you,

Ewing · 08/03/2016 at 22:43

Thoughts on zaharakis as a POD? Looks fitter then ever. Will be number one midfielder and will cop a tag but still see him gathering the most possessions and getting his score upscaled. Thoughts?

    chrpac · 08/03/2016 at 22:58

    good one mate, he will have a big year. he is due and it is time to step. he has the potential

    The Mountain · 08/03/2016 at 23:06

    Goddard is the Number one midfielder mate.

      RobDogs · 09/03/2016 at 01:10

      I was thinking Zaharakis also, but I try to stick to premiums from good sides and rookies from poor sides if possible. Bombers will be so bad this year can't see their better players improving their averages much. One of the Cat's up and coming mids Duncan/Caddy/Guthrie would be my aim or a Matt Crouch with change left over.

Andrew · 08/03/2016 at 22:46

Nic Nat or Gawn?
Sitting on the fence atm

    Ewing · 08/03/2016 at 22:47


    tophawk · 08/03/2016 at 23:26

    Aaaa yawn……..Its Gawn!

    Steeeve · 09/03/2016 at 10:48

    I've gone NicNat. Only changing to Gawn if I need the extra coin. Feel like Gawn could be a trap and if so a lot will get caught. The bloke is oozing potential but he's had injures in the past and has played about 10 good games in his whole career. Also he is feeding a second rate midfield so is unlikely to get the hit outs to advantage that NicNat will.

Bill · 08/03/2016 at 22:47

Admiral testicular girth in the ruck division Barron, if it works you could have a very successful season! Dont think im brave enough to try it myself tho

    DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 18:34

    Many sailors have spent time at sea under Admiral Testicular.

Mikkkk · 08/03/2016 at 22:48

Please give me feed back community! Keep chipping and changing!

Def:Laird,Bartel,Birchall,Sheridan,Mitch brown, Hartley(broad,tipawungti)
Mid: Danger,Ablett,Jkenedy,ward,Rockliff,Libba,mills,
Kerridge(McCarthy grimley)

Andrew · 08/03/2016 at 22:50

Nic Nat or Gawn?

Hawks · 08/03/2016 at 22:50

Nice team BVC,

Just wondering if you may be better putting one of M.Brown or AMT in the forward-line to put in place the Def-Fwd swing, could be handy if just one of them is getting a regular game.

Derek · 08/03/2016 at 22:53

Good article Barron

I don't like your defence. Starting the year with 3 onfield rookies in defence I wouldn't have believed possible. I was thinking 1, and would be feeling very nervous about having 2, but three I wouldn't be able to sleep.

Defence rookies are traditionally slow to make cash and when they are ready to be culled there is usually very little downgrade options.

I'd prefer to put my faith in the midfield rookies, the season starters and the bubble boys down the track to make my cash. As you know if you don't generate enough cash early you pay the price later.

I'm looking at 1 less midfield premium, but going Rich at D4 and Smith D5. Set and forget defence.

    The Ranger · 08/03/2016 at 23:18

    Where's your cash generation coming from Derek?
    There seems to be plenty of def rocks but not so many elsewhere.

      Derek · 09/03/2016 at 09:01

      i agree there does seem to be plenty of defense rookies and i'm considering dropping Smith and going with 2 onfield rookies.

      The problem is they are usually slow at increasing cash, if we can get a few mid-field rookies, jump on them instead.

        The Ranger · 09/03/2016 at 13:19

        There's a few good mid rooks but the ones I like most, Mills and Oliver, are both over the 200K mark and I bloody hate paying that for rookies!
        Does your PAY THE PRICE mantra hold true for rookies?
        I currenty have Mills and Oliver at M7 and 8 but I'm not sure of it at all…

          Derek · 09/03/2016 at 15:44

          The opposite. Bargin rookies only. I'll take 60 from a $117k rookie over 80 from a $220k rookie

          There are only two types of players. Keepers and cash-generators. If they are not making cash, they are no use. Expensive rookies will make ash but at a slower rate and not as much meaning more trades

    SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 23:21

    You make a lot of good points Derek especially looking for defensive downgrades midseason.

    However there should hopefully still be enough midfield downgrades available with 3 permanent bench spots along with forward rookie downgrades that you may only need to UPGRADE your defensive rookies to fallen premos instead rather than always downgrading them as we paint the fence up and down.

    So if sufficient defensive rookies present at Rd1 I plan to go with up to 3 rookies onfield like BVC as frankly none of the defensive midpricers particularly arouse me this season. Rich has never really worked out for me when I've picked him in the past and Smith appears to have lost that number one rebounding spot to Laird to use your examples. So these guys actually may not turn out to be keepers and you may have to burn trades on them anyway although hopefully you don't.

    Btw we got word yesterday that Mitch Brown (WCE) will miss 8 weeks so there's at least one likely midseason defensive downgrade target for the community. 🙂

      RobDogs · 09/03/2016 at 01:14

      Also Otten from Adelaide fit a few weeks in, probably be round 6-8 that he breaks into the team will be a very good def downgrade IMO.

        Derek · 09/03/2016 at 08:55

        Rice will be one as well

    Holty · 09/03/2016 at 07:29

    i agree with you derek in regards to the rookies. The defensive rookies may be solid as people have suggested but they have in the past made the cash slowly. midfield rookies will more likely have the big scores and therefore make the cash quickly. Not quite going as deep in the backline as you though. D4 is Lonergan and not sure if i use Weitering at D5 or Brown(Ess).

      Pete · 09/03/2016 at 11:09

      Lonergan not inuured in his last nab game?

Nick · 08/03/2016 at 22:57

Thoughts community:
Shaw Laird Docherty Pittard Brown Hartley Dea and bonner

Fyfe Ablett Rocky Zaharakis Libba Mills Parish Kerridge Gore,cuningham, Mathieson

Goldy,smith grimley

Montagna Dusty Barlow Greene Kennedy Cox Petracca and long

    Youngy · 09/03/2016 at 18:00

    Pittard I can't see doing much.

    Not worth having a point of difference if he scores less than the popular picks.

Tim · 08/03/2016 at 23:03

Here is where I am at:

Def: Laird, KK, B Smith, Johannisen, M Brown, D Tucker (Hartley, K Collins)
Mids: Fyfe, Gaz, Rockliff, Wines, Hanley, Libba, Crouch, Menadue (petracca, mathieson, long)
Ruck: Goldy, Gawn (Grimley)
Fwd: Dusty, Barlow, D Smith, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Wyatt, Mc-Tip)

What do you think community?

    Youngy · 09/03/2016 at 17:59

    I think you have to many mid prices, but it could work out for ya. Just my opinion

Adam · 08/03/2016 at 23:21

Want to know why everyone is so keen on Ablett?

Turning 32 years old, missed 7 games in 2014, 16 games last year. In a struggling team with a depleted midfield, going to cop a heavy tag every week, suffering various injuries the last couple of years, no pre-preseason games / nab cup. If it was anyone else, you'll look straight pass him. Does everyone think he'll have a career resurgence or just pick him and hope for the best.

    The Ranger · 08/03/2016 at 23:27

    As you say Adam IF it was someone else then maybe everyone would look straight past him but he isn't anyone else.
    He's Gary Bloody Ablett. The SuperCoach God.
    Ignore him at your peril!

    Danners · 09/03/2016 at 15:24

    I do agree with you Adam, kind of swayed away from him as he will have no pre season. Last year though we were having the same dilemma, but this time around you can get him $100k cheaper which is why people have him locked

    Youngy · 09/03/2016 at 17:58

    At 620k he is worth the risk, if he was at 700k like previous years I would definitely be having second thoughts.

    But everyone has him and if I don't and he comes out smashing, Im at a massive disadvantage off the bat

magpie4ver · 08/03/2016 at 23:27

Nice Side Barron we have the same ruck structure….I actually had Sinclair in til last week until Patches team reveal and nab 3 results. I upgraded to Tippett Sunday.

I myself see a trend and its in the Mids…….everyone seems to be taking Fyfe Danger and Ablett! Ive only seen 1 team reveal with Pendels! I have Pendels and couldn't go without him….1 because I'm a Pies fan and 2 he is consistent and 3 he's my Favorite player because I'm a Pies fan!!! So Pendels is becoming a POD IMO. The only person with Pendels in team Reveal is Lekdog! I'm actually thinking of dumping Ablett because of foot injury…..feeling like just like last year with the shoulder with Ablett??? Deja vu?

    SCaddict · 08/03/2016 at 23:57

    I'm afraid Pendles won't be much of a POD for you even if he isn't flavour of the month on this particular site right now. He'll be in plenty of the 300,000 odd entries don't you worry about that.

    He's been in and out my team and the only question mark on him is where will he play his footy this season with all these up and coming youngsters like De Goey and Adams as well as the introduction of Treloar?

    He's a deadset champion of the game so he'll score well wherever but will it be that 115-125 avg we've come to expect in the past?

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 00:07

      Nice response!!! 115-125 is good and consistent. Yeah ur right he probably wont be much of a POD 300,000 but everyone I'm playing doesn't have him except Lekdog? Haven't seen Throttle Fingers side yet so not sure if he takes a chance on him. I guess I'm just surprised he's not on many sides?

      Cheers Mate!

        SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 00:14

        Yes that's true he may be somewhat of a league POD if most of your leagues are mainly JR community members.

        Of course that could all change if he pumps out a monster score in NAB3 given the fickle nature of us fantasy coaches. 🙂

          magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 01:19

          Yeah I hear ya! He probably wont pull out a huge NAB 3 they wont risk it! No reason to!

      Pete · 09/03/2016 at 11:03

      Hi addict! i dont have Pendles unfortunately but food for thought here. Imagine with Adams, DeGoey, Trealor, Crisp, Greenwood in the midfield as well maybe pendles resting forward and a sweeper off half back might not be so bad. He only had 18 touches and 1g 2b and a few direct goal assists. He scored 112 pts. If he kicks 2-3 goals in a game and get a couple goal assists he could skye rocket. Thoughts?

        SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 12:00

        Look I reckon Pendles is a great selection which is why he's been in and out of my team. You can only fit in so many of these super guns under the salary cap.

        If I go Libba at M7 then Pendles will almost certainly make my team but if I have Libba at M6 then I probably won't be able to squeeze him in.

        But to answer your question I still expect Pendles to be an elite scorer this season where ever he plays. Will that average be closer to 115 or 125 I'm just not sure Pete.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 10:19

    Pendles may not start but will end up in my team. Though I have contemplated flicking abs for pendles or priddus. Will wait and see abs does feel a bit like history repeating but will wait and see.

throttlefinger · 08/03/2016 at 23:58

Bold, Ballsy and Brilliant. Well done, my man.

Like you, lot of brain cells wasted on R2. Leaning toward Sinclair as he's more mobile and doesn't rely on HOs for his score. Solid player. Worry about Tippett's body more than anything.

Also burned a lot of hours over my F3 as well. Don't mind Tex as a stepping stone but he's not at a stepping stone price. But could make top 10. Is he playing N3? I'm leaning towards either Greene or De Goey (if he shows flashes with the big mids in there). Shall see.

Sure it will be tweaked but looks like all the heavy-lifting thinking has been done. Well done, my friend.

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 00:08

    Dang you Throttle!!!! I was torn between Sinclair and Tippett! ; )

      throttlefinger · 09/03/2016 at 00:36

      Hahaha. That's a tough call, magpie4ver. Let's hope N3 gives us better insight for what to expect.

    SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 00:20

    Hey man the community has been missing you. I was worried you'd lost your passion for fantasy footy or real life had got in the way somehow.

    Yes I'm running with the Greene Machine too at F3 although De Goey is one of the few midpricers that does have me intrigued.

    Can't wait for another season of gladiatorial do or die in the Throttledome!

    Oh yeah and Go Warriors for 73!

      throttlefinger · 09/03/2016 at 00:35

      Warriors won't make it to the championship. Spurs with the upset. Unfortunately don't think my Cavs will make it this season. Too much turmoil. And LBJ not the leader that Bird, Magic or Jordan were.

      Can't wait as well, SCaddict. Been busy with all kinds of things. Been loving reading the articles but, yes, neglectful in the comments. Will try harder to give some insights…although given how shitty I did last season, not sure if everything should come with an asterisks.

      Ready to lock hours with you in the Tdome, my friend!

        SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 00:57

        If last year's rankings had any bearing I'd be banned from posting any advice here so don't let that be a deterrent for you.

        Then again I ran into nearly every disaster last season …Gaz, Rocky, Parker, Sloane, Bartel, Nutsack Kelly, TBC, Lewis … I had every one of those buggers. In fact some of those pricks managed to whack me not once but twice when they got re-injured on their return. Just hoping for something approaching a fair go this season if that's not too much to ask!

        I can only hope you've finally severed relationships with a certain Mummy and his 24/7 donut factory. 🙂

          throttlefinger · 09/03/2016 at 01:02

          Yeah. No Mummy. Decided even before he got taken out of the game. Was watching him play and saw he just doesn't have the same lift. Does all the other things well. But the ankle roll made him done and dusted in my squad.

            SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 01:11

            What ruck combo are you toying with right now? Not sure I'm a huge fan of Sinclair at R2 although of course I hope he kicks ass for my Swannies.

            I had Goldy and Stef locked and loaded for the past month but am now re-assesing as there are so many ways you could go this season.

              throttlefinger · 09/03/2016 at 01:28

              Want Goldy but can't justify the spend at the expense of my other lines.

              Thinking is NicNat and Sinclair with Currie (if he gets selected). Thinking the value of both of those two will make it possible to upgrade to Goldy when his price drops…and it will drop.

              Feel DogDog will have a great year. No question marks around him. And Sinclair was raised at the feet of Cox and NicNat…so he should do pretty well. Smart, hard and active. Like that in my rucks.

    Marco_Polo94 · 09/03/2016 at 00:32

    Can't wait for the final Collingwood NAB game to see how de goey and sidebum go with Treloar!

      throttlefinger · 09/03/2016 at 00:37

      Agree! That will be the best way to see if DG is worth the risk.

        magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 01:14

        De Goey is a possible inclusion in my side as well!

    Blueprime · 09/03/2016 at 03:31

    Barron &Throttle. Have gone Martin R1, Naitanui R2, Grimley R3 and Sinclair F3. I am sleeping pretty well at night.

      throttlefinger · 09/03/2016 at 04:06

      Ha. I'm sure you are.

        @HeiroDAB · 09/03/2016 at 07:09

        Whys no one talking about Jacobs? I would think he would continue to rack as in recent years and as a stand alone Ruck in a pretty tuned Crows outfit, with only Youngsters at his heels he has no competition for the spot. When youngsters will be blooded he will be rested in the forwards line where he will not pick up a key defender and be a key target for bombs coming from the defensive run.

        I've gone Jacobs, Gawn, with Cox / Grimley swing?

          throttlefinger · 09/03/2016 at 07:26

          Sauce is definitely a strong candidate. Your take is the half cup full take, Herio. The cup half empty is the Crows are going to slide hard and so are his scores, especially if Brad Crouch isn't in there. Lot of uncertainty. Had Danger before which gave him a great target.

          Regardless, Sauce is in only 6% of teams and has a good track record of full seasons. Hard to argue against.

          OldOcker · 09/03/2016 at 15:19

          G'day Heiro,
          Only smart people like you and I would think about Jacobs because nobody has been talking about him.
          The glass is never half empty, Sometimes the glass is just too bloody big for the amount of water you have. The glass is always full.
          Goldy and Jacobs will be the beneficiaries of the new rotation cap because they both already spend very little time on the bench and cover the whole ground and attend most contests.

          Goldy and Jacobs for me.

          PS: Even if Goldy does drop in price, How much value do you place on a trade? I don't think he will drop that much to warrant a trade and therefore will start with him. We have not seen a ruck like Goldy since the great years of Dean Cox and I believe he will be the number 1 again this year.

          Ocker's 2 cents.

            DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 18:56

            A counter theory is that the elimination of the sub will allow two ruckmen to play in an opposition team and by double teaming, impact on their scores.

              OldOcker · 09/03/2016 at 19:11

              double teaming has never hurt their scores in the past but a fair point.
              Percentage of TOG and consistency in games played and total points scored for season for both of these ruckmen put them above all others. IMO for season value.


                DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 20:10

                The actual coach's strategies will be interesting to observe this year in relation to rucks and midfielders for that matter.

Marco_Polo94 · 09/03/2016 at 00:37

Have I gone POD crazy community!?!? I've just removed Rockliff for Titch. And Parker for Viney. Happy with the Parker removal because everyone seems to be on him now, hope it doesn't backfire aha. As for Titch, despite his sloppy DE last game I can't shake the feeling he is going to just EXPLODE this season.

    throttlefinger · 09/03/2016 at 01:01

    That's the tease of Titch, my friend.

    I would say no one on the Swans will explode. Bloated midfield. They should all do well. But not enough points (and not as fast style of play) that I think would give anyone the edge.

    Love the Viney call, though!

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 01:16

      I love Titch as well but not on my side this yr! Agree with Throttle on bloated MID but if you like he would be a great POD!

    SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 01:18

    I think Titch could be an awesome selection but I just don't have the plums to pick him in SC. Will definitely pick him in AFL Fantasy though where it doesn't hurt quite as much to make a correctional trade if it doesn't work out. The kid is a serious ball magnet and still scored great even with Horse doing his utmost to sabotage his numbers.

    So I'll take the seemingly safer 'sheep' options of Parker and Rocky in SC but Titch and Viney could be massive shark plays for you, that is if you can hold your nerve over the next fortnight. Good luck with that! 🙂

      throttlefinger · 09/03/2016 at 01:36

      Ha! That's another reason. Hard to pick a guy who the coach isn't as enamored of.

      But agree with SCaddict. For DT and CoachKings, Titch would high on the consideration list each week.

      Then again, that thinking could be applied to most of the Swans mids.

      Marco_Polo94 · 09/03/2016 at 18:16

      It's certainly very difficult to select Titch over Parker when you look at the numbers and the reduced price aha. A lot more confident with Viney in my team. That Titch spot could either stay that way, or switch to someone a bit more reliable like a Shiel, Ward, Priddis etc. Atm my midfield is Danger, Ablett, Gray, Titch, Sidebottom, Viney, Libba, Mills. Sidebottom will depend on how he fits into a full strength collingwood midfield, and I suppose I'll be looking closely at Titch for his final NAB game too. I'm convinced that he has the potential to average over 110.

      Just trying different things this season, finished in the top 1% last year and despite how successful i was, I never had a good crack at winning it because I didn't have any serious shark moves. It's for that reason I'm looking at alternative midfield premiums, and even have an eye on Jack Riewoldt early doors with his relatively good fixture first few rounds..

    RobDogs · 09/03/2016 at 01:21

    Rocky is saying he will play more forward this year, so am not 100% sold he will recapture the points we are used to, but still see Viney getting a tagging role when there are pemiership points up for grabs so safer with Rockliff. Also, Parker looks very good, is underpriced and Titch isn't the cheap, low risk mid-fwd he was last year. ATM I like Parker and Rocky more even if they are popular picks.

      @HeiroDAB · 09/03/2016 at 07:12

      Can snap a few solid 6 pointers though!

    Pete · 09/03/2016 at 10:57

    I have TMitch also. Look at his scores over 120 last season. 4th year player, will dominate and Parker will rest forward plenty

    CaptainObvious · 09/03/2016 at 15:43

    Well done Marco.
    I reckon everybody has ablett and Libba so you should scrap them to.

Fox · 09/03/2016 at 01:11

Shaw and laird must haves in def

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 01:45

    I think Shaw is…….not sure about Laird yet??? A lot of peeps taking him …..not on my side as of yet but if he does play this weekend and performs well he will be my D2?

    SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 01:58

    No way is Shaw a must have imho if we are talking about starting selections, even if we all probably have him by time the Supercoach finals roll by. Would be willing to streak across the G and cop that hefty fine if his price doesn't dip below $500K at some point in the season.

    I like Laird plenty and he's my D1 right now but again he shouldn't be a lock for every coach out there like a Libba, Rocky or Wells.

      SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 09:10

      SCaddict whats your team look like?

        SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 12:26

        My ideal structure is like BVC with 3 onfield rooks in defence, Wells at F4 and Libba/Mills at M7/M8.

        Happy to do a full team reveal next week after the final NAB as the team is still in a fair bit of flux.

        Suffice to say there aren't going to be any massive surprises with the only real PODs possibly a chance in my ruck as I'm seriously considering Tippo and/or Blitz along with the more popular names.

          Average Joe · 09/03/2016 at 13:14

          Do ya reckon Blitz with do better if he's not hitting in the ruck? Geelong have heaps of tall timber that can pinch hit in the ruck, and it's pretty unlikely that he will be getting many points from hitouts.

    CaptainObvious · 09/03/2016 at 15:41

    No must haves you are allowed to choose any players you want.

cam · 09/03/2016 at 02:01

Great work Barron. Many of us will have similar structures.

Need a Supercoach League. Please join 231546, 10 spots remaining.

    CaptainObvious · 09/03/2016 at 15:40

    LOL you cheeky monkey. Tell the bloke he has a good team then invite him to join your league. We all know that nobody invites somebody with a better team than their own to their league.
    Reading between the lines you said "Nice try old bloke but I reckon me and my mates would use you for a percentage boost"

Onur · 09/03/2016 at 05:44

Can someone quickly explain the loophole please!

    PJ8 · 09/03/2016 at 07:06

    Put the VC on a player who plays early in the round
    If he gets good score and want that as your C score. Put a non playing player on the ground (must not have played in the round yet)
    Make non playing player C
    He will score 0 and your VC will be doubled.
    Have to make sure you make the playing player on the bench as Emergency so his points also count.

    If the VC doesn't score good just leave as is.

      Holty · 09/03/2016 at 09:05

      that is the best explanation of the loophole ive read.

      Derek · 09/03/2016 at 09:06

      i forgot the E on the emergency once.

james · 09/03/2016 at 07:16

does anyone know what percentage of teams dylan shiel is in,

    CaptainObvious · 09/03/2016 at 15:35


'Don't Blush Babbie' · 09/03/2016 at 08:23

RSN interview with Rodney Eade – Hall & Lonergan to spend more time in the Mid,G.Ablett is right to go and nothing will change in his role but may rest in the Forwards

    Holty · 09/03/2016 at 09:03

    great to hear mate. i think all midfielders will spend more time in the forward line this year to rest. Lonergan i have and Hall is a maybe. I think after this last nab round, ill decide between Hall and Greene

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 09:08


    TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 10:30

    I actually put lonergan in my team last night. I was going to go goldy down to Smith and mills up to Duncan. But would like to start goldy so have now gone shaw down to lonergan as I think the difference will b less in points and that news just validated my move thanks. Duncan should easily outscore mills by at least 30 points per week. Will look to trade shaw in Rd 7-8 as hoping to be my first upgrade.

      'Don't Blush Babbie' · 09/03/2016 at 15:25

      Yes, I have Lonergan,Mills & Duncan but Dog Dog & Gawn, but could still change,can't believe its still 2 weeks away

    CaptainObvious · 09/03/2016 at 15:34

    I think the Tagger and Blocker are midfield roles that score poorly. When Gaz and Prestia play if lonergan also plays he will have one of the lower scoring roles. When JOM comes back lonergan probably goes back to neafl.

Grahame Lebroy · 09/03/2016 at 08:26

Shaw, Laird and Sheridan


Laird, Docherty and McGovern??

    captain obvious · 09/03/2016 at 15:30

    Heater, Sheets, MCG

Tom · 09/03/2016 at 08:51

Do people see Wells as a stepping stone or a keeper?

    Grahame Lebroy · 09/03/2016 at 08:58

    Stepping stone for me Tom, plan on upgrading him asap due to his reliability issues

    Holty · 09/03/2016 at 09:00

    he could be a keeper if he gets back to his averages of a few years ago and stays fit. i think we need to look at him as a stepping stone though. If he ends up being a keeper, its a bonus.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 10:32

      Agree stone for me if a keeper bonus hopefully he does some good mooing.

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 09:08

    he is not a keeper, should make reasonable cash

    Danners · 09/03/2016 at 15:22

    You probably can't keep someone that has played 9 games in the past two seasons, hope he gets a good run early

    DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 19:12

    I see him as an early injury trade.

      BKW · 10/03/2016 at 09:05

      Yep same – make $150k+ then gone

Jose · 09/03/2016 at 08:57

Join 143655 SuperCoach league

Chill · 09/03/2016 at 08:58

What is the appeal of Lonergan? I don't see it.

    Holty · 09/03/2016 at 09:58

    young, big body, wins the contested ball.cheaper then a lot of other midpricers so less risk. ive seen him play and i like what i see.

    Danners · 09/03/2016 at 15:21

    Probably get some midfield time where he scores well

    CaptainObvious · 09/03/2016 at 15:28

    Well spotted. He's ripped NAB apart before but proved to be a dud for SC when the real thing started

Chill · 09/03/2016 at 09:37

No talk of suckling? Played well in NAB. Had capacity to go big but always overshadowed at Hawthorn. Now playing through the midfield at the doggies…

    DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 19:18

    Great left foot kick but not sure if he knows what a contested possession or tackle is. Pass.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 10:42

BVC! Man that is putting it out there 3 rook def Tippett and walker. Powerful mids but with no rooks really putting up their hand can't ignore the logic. Most teams I've seen have 2 Def rooks on the field so what's another one? Never been a fan of Tippett but he went alright at the end of last year. Walker could b astute or an ass chew. Good luck for the season.

    Nathan · 09/03/2016 at 11:13

    I started wigh walker last year
    170 r1 i was over the moon
    But from there on i was not

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 11:27

    Its a shark move all right

Tom McV · 09/03/2016 at 10:55

Thoughts on my team community
Backline- R.Laird, J.Bartel, J.McGovern, J.Weitering, M.Brown (Dons), M.Hartley (N.Broad, A.Keath)

Midfield- P.Dangerfield, G.Ablett, C.Ward, T.Rockliff, L.Parker, J.Viney, T.Libba, C.Mills (R.Mathieson, B.Keays, D.McPhearson)

Rucks- S.Martin, M.Gawn (M.Cox)

Forwards- D.Martin, M.Barlow, Z.Merret, D.Menzel, S.Kerridge, C.Petracca (L.McCarthy, AMT)

Should I downgrade Stefen Martin to Nic Nat and upgrade elsewhere?
only $1,500 left in the bank at the moment

Steeeve · 09/03/2016 at 11:04

Number one reason to take Shaw is just about every other backman has question marks.

Laird competing with Smith for rebound role
KK and Yeo not quite proven yet
Bartel tooth length
Birchall unlikely to go huge
Docherty plays for Carlton
Rich constantly stuck around the 80 mark
Brodie Smiths head might actually fall off
Same with McGoverns arm
Almost all the rest are key position defenders

I've decided to fit Shaw in. If he drops to 500k I won't care, it's not like I'm trading him out so his price won't matter if I already have him.

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 11:29

    i was fairly keen on Simpson. He will do ok, but at $500k he was also fully priced. he also plays for Carlton.

      Steeeve · 09/03/2016 at 16:28

      Also showed his age a bit last year, I'm avoiding.

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 12:06

    Surely KK proved himself last year. Laird is the rebounding defender, smith is terrible

      REN · 09/03/2016 at 16:35

      Wouldnt say an All-Australian defender who had a bad run with injuries last year is terrible…

SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 11:05

Another good reason to pick Tippet is he had a very good run at the end of last year. Check out Ockers spreadsheet to see more.

    DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 19:24

    Without Buddy he scores well.

Capt. Pugwash · 09/03/2016 at 11:11

Shhhhhhhhh come a little closer……. Mini-Dog POD Alert!

Caleb Daniels -BANG!!!!!!!

A little pocket rocket. Tackles, B-Test Aewsome, Vest Affected, Time in mid, great at stoppages

A little more cash, but JS pretty good around a tall forward line and was training with the mids during Sunny Coast camp. Better option if your going rookie strong and spending your money in mids.

    Average Joe · 09/03/2016 at 12:58

    too expensive I reckon

Steele · 09/03/2016 at 11:48

Elliot Yeo?

Should we be concerned about his NAB performances?

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 12:31

    His price is good and has DPP. He was on my watchlist when Mastern got injured. He could be a nice D3 instead of Bartel.

    Danners · 09/03/2016 at 15:20

    Yes you should be concerned, I'm staying away I have doubts that he will play in the midfield

    Youngy · 09/03/2016 at 17:49

    ^^ Agree with Danners, I don't see him fitting in with WCE mid

gator59 · 09/03/2016 at 11:54

Thoughts on T,West for Ruck 2

    Danners · 09/03/2016 at 15:19

    Will play second fiddle to Martin and won't score well

      exatekk · 11/03/2016 at 21:43

      t west R3 better option. FWD swing too

    Youngy · 09/03/2016 at 17:47

    There are better options.

Mister_Spock · 09/03/2016 at 12:02

Thoughts on my current setup Community?

DEF: Shaw, Laird, McGovern, McKenzie, Weitering, Brown (Byrne-Jones, Collins)
MID: Fyfe, Danger, Sidebottom, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Gore, Cunningham, Mathieson)
RUCK: Nic Nat, Gawn (Wyatt)
FWD: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Grimley, Petracca)

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 18:11

    Looks good!

    LazDog · 11/03/2016 at 10:34

    On face value this looks ok, but you have locked out the Backs and the Mids. That is, you can't sub without trading out from both lines. With only $12.6K left you have zero flexibility. As the year progresses you will run out of trades quicker than most.

      LazDog · 11/03/2016 at 10:37

      By 'sub' I mean cross sub or some call it – swinging sub.

Average Joe · 09/03/2016 at 12:24

Start thinking of other options other than Yeo

Liam · 09/03/2016 at 12:45

Zach Merrett vs Aaron Hall

Who will produce a better scoring output?!

    Mister_Spock · 09/03/2016 at 12:54

    I reckon Hall may be the better option as Essondon will be getting pumped each week, another option is Greene if you can afford him

    Danners · 09/03/2016 at 15:18

    Merrett will get more time in the midfield throughout the season, better chance of him being a season keeper

    BKLS · 09/03/2016 at 16:12

    Hall will be great value and score well until the big guns return mid season

    Youngy · 09/03/2016 at 17:47

    Hall. Enough said

    judd0 · 10/03/2016 at 12:11

    No doubt Merrett a better player, but I just can't see him scoring that well when they get pumped which will probably be a lot.

      Marco_Polo94 · 11/03/2016 at 00:37

      Good players score points no matter how the team is going. I see your point, but I wouldn't use that as the decision to go with a Hall over a Merrett.

        judd0 · 11/03/2016 at 10:45

        Last year when Essendon were beaten by 30 points or more Merrett averaged 8 less points than his season average.
        I know that's not a lot, but I can see the floggings being a lot more frequent and severe this year unfortunately.
        I hope I'm wrong, I really do, I'm an Essendon man and long time member and had Merrett at my F3 position for a lot of the pre-season but I'm just worried about those floggings.

Big G · 09/03/2016 at 12:57

I am not convinced Petracca or McCarthy are going play regularly from round 1.

    Average Joe · 09/03/2016 at 12:59

    Any reasoning?

      Big G · 09/03/2016 at 14:04

      I am a Demons man. Kent, B Kennedy and Oliver are penciled in for the mid-forward role I have a feeling they are going to ease Petracca in from early to mid season. There is no evidence McCarthy can score above 70, let alone string together a few games.

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 14:29

        Yeah we haven't even seem petracca yet. So maybe doubtful Rd 1. That's why he is currently on my bench not on the field. And not sure what all the fuss is about Mccarthy? Agree don't think he would go much higher than 70 based on what I have seen so far. Unless i am missing something? On form I have gone for mendaue.

CapTnKaOs · 09/03/2016 at 13:04

OK……Just to see how it would look……I've taken the common theme of a packed midfield and had a play with the rest. WARNING- If you have a weak stomach, be careful looking at the defence. Theory is, the defenders are the lowest scoring line anyway. These guys are priced to average 25-30. If they get games, they should do a bit better than that. Projected Rd1 score is over 1850. Not saying I've got the cohones to actually go with this team. But its interesting. Some might say like a train crash. Comments welcome.

DEF: Weitering, Francis, Dea, Brown, Hartley, Collins (Broad, Bonner)

MID: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Duncan, Liberatore, B.Crouch (Petracca, Mathieson, MacPherson)

RUCK: Goldy, NicNat (Max King)

FWD: Zorko, Wingard, Barlow, Heeney, DeGoey, D.Menzel (Kerridge, Grimley)

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 14:31

    Choo choo

    Ethan017 · 11/03/2016 at 09:59

    Bloody hell if your defenders don't perform you're stuffed

    gaz · 11/03/2016 at 11:30

    Im actually quite impressed with this side

fourbells · 09/03/2016 at 13:37

OK So when do we get nervous about Ablett not playing again. Will he be match fit come round I? What does the Community think?

    Big G · 09/03/2016 at 14:01

    I have big concerns. Even if he plays, can he pump out a 125 average?

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 14:14

      I have concerns to…..he was fit match 1 last year to so they say and he was bad then went out. Now its his foot……that might be even worse? All that running around.

        Big G · 09/03/2016 at 14:15

        and GC would need to start handing over the reigns to their young midfielders.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 14:33

    If pendles/priddus go off this weekend may just give the red vest to abs.

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 14:45

      I doubt they will go off why risk getting them hurt in a NAB game. JPK scored 72 last week…….and sat most of the time. Dont expect to much from Pendels and Priddus.

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 15:30

        Don't know they went alright last weekend and both teams will put in their best team prior to Rd 1 and will b keen to push themselves as a warm up for Rd 1. As last chance.

      SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 14:51

      I have to admit I'm having second thoughts too although I haven't ditched him yet.

      Still reeling from the scars of last season and it's certainly a case of once burnt twice shy.

      But surely the King isn't dead just yet?!

        magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 14:56

        LOL ….yes. I was burnt too.

        Big G · 09/03/2016 at 15:34

        I don't think he is dead, but for anyone that is priced over $600,000 I want to be certain they will consistently score 120 plus from day one and play all year. How can one be certain of that with such an injury cloud?

          magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 15:40


        SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 18:00

        I think just about the whole supercoach community was burnt

          magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 18:35

          yeah probably

            Randomclcihe · 11/03/2016 at 14:22

            Not the trusty Sarah who told everyone he was horrible in practice match. Thanks Sarah I owe you!

Cozza · 09/03/2016 at 14:00

Love it Barron – I have a very similar structure – have 3 on field rookies in defence, with 2 mid pricers (Wells and Menzel) and 2 rookies in forwards. Have Martin and Gawn in rucks though, so hopefully a full set and forget there. Was very nervous about the structure but good to see I'm not alone!

Cj Dj · 09/03/2016 at 14:15

What are peoples thoughts on Chad Wingard? Could be a great POD and I think he could average 100 this year

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 14:34

    1st picked fwd in my team and doesn't look like shifting.

      Derek · 09/03/2016 at 15:51

      Same. I took one look at Ports draw and locked him in

    SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 14:39

    Doubt he'll be too much of a POD as there will be enough coaches who start with him.

    No reason to believe he won't again be one of the better forward performers this season.

      Big G · 09/03/2016 at 15:30

      I am still annoyed by his 2014 performance though,

        DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 19:40

        Is he a better choice than Martin?

          Marco_Polo94 · 10/03/2016 at 12:02

          I think Martin will still average more, doesn't make him a bad selection though. If port get their act together this season Wingard should finish top 5 forwards IMO

    Ethan017 · 11/03/2016 at 09:59

    Doesn't get enough of the footy for me
    Better options

Alec · 09/03/2016 at 14:35

Mills or Crowley both being just above 200?

    Alec · 09/03/2016 at 14:38


    SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 15:17

    Mills looks the real deal to me Alec but there's no denying there's plenty of value in Crowley too.

    Parish also needs to be thrown in to that mix of "premium" pure midfield rooks and perhaps even Macaffer too.

    But right now Mills is my man although keen to get another gander at the other three lads this weekend.

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 15:27

      What SCaddict said!

        Derek · 09/03/2016 at 15:53

        I like Maccaffer at $174k

          Wattsieesq · 09/03/2016 at 20:57

          I was thinking of McCaffer as well but had a look at Old Ocker's spreadsheet and was surprised by how little he has done in the past, output wise. I think I'll pass on him.

    Danners · 09/03/2016 at 20:56

    Crowley is a tagger, Mills isn't. Seems simple, Mills for me

Dan2703 · 09/03/2016 at 14:38


Def: Shaw, Laird, Birchall, Weitering, Brown, Collins ( Byrne-jones, tucker)
Mid: Fyfe, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Wines, Liberatore, mills, parish ( Gresham, gore, macpherson)
Ruck: Gawn, Tippet ( Korchek)
Forward: Martin, Zorko, Wingard, wells, millera, kerridge ( petracca, grimley)

BigHaydos · 09/03/2016 at 14:50

Okay guys got a new team. After reading Barron's plans and how he is going about things, I wrote myself up a game plan. First off here is my team

DEF: rance, laird, Bartel, Collins, Hartley, brown, tucker, broad

MID: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Ward, Rockliff, Libba, Wells, Mills, Gresham, Mathieson, McPherson

RUCK: Gawn, Smith, Grimley

FORWARD: Dusty, Wingard, Barlow, StevieJ, Mcarthy, Kerridge, Cox, taputa(whatever his name is)

Swing sets – wells/Kerridge, taputa/brown, Grimley/cox

Game Plan – picked 5/8 premium midfielders who I think will be top 8 at the end of year. I have picked libba, wells and Mills all with the intention of upgrading them to my last 3 keepers. If these 3 hit the 400k mark I'll hopefully be in a position to downgrade 3 plump cows to upgrade Libba wells and Mills to lock in my 8/8 midfield, which will most probably be Priddis pendles and jpk? Who knows? I don't need to know until the time is right.

Grimley and cox with smith will hopefully see me get This years number one ruck if it isn't Gawn (most probably with be Goldstein)

The only problem I'm running into, is thinking of a way to get Heath shaw? I could downgrade rance to rich/McGovern/hurn/suckling and get shaw with the hopes of rance dropping in money and jumping on him a bit cheaper? I don't want to pay 608k for Heath shaw but I can't see him dropping 100k like Barron hopes he does. And if he stays at the 550k mark it will be hard to get him without culling a whole cattle yard

Thoughts on team and strategy? This is my version 101017 for the year so far and after a lot of thought it seems to be sitting right. Plenty of cash to make and plenty of keepers without too many infield rookies

    BigHaydos · 09/03/2016 at 15:03

    Priddis and Rance (2 keepers)
    Fyfe and McGovern? (1keeper)

      Derek · 09/03/2016 at 17:00

      i like someone with a plan.

      Having StevieJ should be fun, but we all know he isn't a keeper and he won't make you much cash, so i'd upgrade him to someone who is/can. Spend $460k on a defence keeper, move Wells to F4 and throw in Petracca in the guts for your swingset.

        BigHaydos · 10/03/2016 at 18:03

        Thanks for the help Derek! always nice to have another opinion and that was very useful cheers bro

      neil · 09/03/2016 at 17:00

      go to 101018 hang about keep it your in my league hayds and you done me last year once wait for it I scored 2551 so yere keep shaw and goldy will kill you

Shake n bake · 09/03/2016 at 15:40

My current setup as it stands but do have my eyes on a few this weekend eg, Crouch.
Shaw Laird Bartel Dea Byrne-J Brown Hartley Collins
Fyfe Ablett Danger Pendles Rocky Libba Parish Gore Patracca Mathieson Keays
Goldy Gawn Whatt
Martin Barlow Hall Wells Kerridge Kommer Grimley McDT.

Ben · 09/03/2016 at 16:00

Hi all
Its my second season in SuperCoach and loving it! its very interesting reading through the teams on here!
Are you able to give me your opinion on my team as it stands?
H.Shaw A.Rance E.Yeo J.Pittard B.Smith J.Weitering (J.Cowan C.Adamson)
L.Montagna J.Selwood L.Dahlhaus J.Ziebell T.Liberatore P.Seedsman J.Toumpas C.Mills (R.Crowley C.Petracca A.Marcon)
S.Jacobs N.Vardy (M.Cox)
M.Barlow L.Franklin S.Lycett M.Wright D.Wells S.Kerridge (W.Milera M.Chol)

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 16:25

    IMO….dump Yeo, Pittard, B. Smith(see how he does this weekend), Montangna Selwood, Take Dahlhaus out of Mid, Zeiebell, Seedsman, Crowely, Vardy, Franklin, Lycett, Writght and Chol.

      que · 09/03/2016 at 16:36

      so basicaly the whole team?

        magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 16:41

        Its my opinion but yeah…….I wouldnt play with this team.

          que · 09/03/2016 at 16:43


          a lot of POD's thats for sure

            Ben · 09/03/2016 at 18:14

            POD's?? sorry not up with the lingo as yet.

              Crowmagnon · 09/03/2016 at 18:28

              POD= point of difference. players that are not in many teams. can be a good or bad thing.
              I think the midfield is for pure mid. no dpp( dual position players).
              try to stick to premium players and rookies, where possible.

      Ben · 09/03/2016 at 18:24

      HAHA! thats pretty scathing response… problem is if i take them out who do i put in! haha

        magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 18:29

        Dont Think its meant to be scathing.Well its up to you really. Do you live in OZ? POD is point of difference

          Ben · 09/03/2016 at 18:34

          Yeah i live in South Australia.

            magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 18:42

            Ok….just curious.

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 17:31

    stick Montagna and dahlhaus in your forward line

      Scott · 09/03/2016 at 18:45

      Yes i agree with Derek, put those two in your fwd line. Premiums are expensive for a reason, they perform week in week out you probably need some cream in your midfield. Ruck two consider Gawn or Nic Nat in the ruck I don't think Vardy is an option. Having said that go with your gut if you like a certain player. Look for players who you think will improve this year and you can generate some cash to upgrade them later in the season. Keep an eye on the rookies who do well this weekend and are in line for round 1 selection. You have players that not everyone would choose, but that can be good as long as they deliver, that's the challenge of Supercoach, finding a hidden gem that no one else has picked.

        magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 19:04

        Well said Scott!

        Ben · 10/03/2016 at 22:13

        Thanks alot Scott! I appreciate that! I'll be re thinking my team. Hope you have a good year! Good luck!

    Randomclcihe · 11/03/2016 at 14:28

    You've got to pick some players at the top of their position 12 to 14 to keep for the season. Get a few more promos in. You've got to aim to make 14 mil total team value. Get a few more rookies. Cheers

Mitch · 09/03/2016 at 16:01

Hey community, really hoping for some feedback in structuring my fwd and def lines, not my first time but struggling to find a balance in these lines that feels right

Shaw, Laird, Sheridan, Lonergan, Dea, Hartley (broad, collins)

Fyfe, Danger, Shiel, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Oliver, Gresham (gore, keays, mathieson)

Martin, Gawn (grimley)

Martin, Dahlhaus, Greene, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Brown, ATM)

All feedback appreciated!

    Ben · 09/03/2016 at 16:08

    Not sure about sheridan especially at D3, look to maybe swap parker for parish or mills and upgrade a def to bartel or something.
    Like the pick off martin!
    Fwd line structure looks good, just look to adjust your def line.
    In all the team looks good

    Average Joe · 09/03/2016 at 18:51

    Hey mitch mate, everything looks good. Like Stef Martin, still think he will end up 2nd best ruckman behind goldy. Also like Sheridan and Lonergan but consider downgrading one and upgrading the other, as it is much less risky and could very well make more points, but trust your gut on them. Only other thing would be to trade out dea, swap mitch brown back into defence and trade in another rookie like kommer, petracca or the like.

    Mitch · 09/03/2016 at 19:04

    Thankyou for the feedback!

Ben · 09/03/2016 at 16:02

Thoughts on my team please?
Def: Shaw, Laird, Bartel, weitering, brown, collins, hartley, tucker
Mid: Fyfe, dangerfield, ablett, rockliff, liberatore, crouch, mills, parish, keays, gore, mathieson
Ruc: goldstein, gawn, chol
Fwd: deledio, martin, barlow, wells, kerridge, milera, tipunagwuti, kommer

Regarding the overs prems,
Shaw will be the number one defender
Deledio had an insane avg last year minus his injury games
Goldy got me top 1000 last year

The 200k rookies should see me beable to upgrade to the premuims i want later in the year.
I really dont have any pods, dont believe in them. Maybe deledio is haven't seen many teams with him.
Cheers for any feedback.

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 16:19

    Nice team. First one I've seen with the most expensive player in each position.

    neil · 09/03/2016 at 17:04

    ru under 10000 looks too good

    Scott · 09/03/2016 at 19:39

    I like Delidio over Martin myself as long as he is fit and firing, interesting move to have them both in the same line and team. No Grimley for the ruck forward swing if one of your ruckmen goes down? Did you choose Chol because he is the cheapest DPP ruck forward? I like all your mid pricers myself, hopefully they will reap some cash!! Good looking team good luck.

      Ben · 09/03/2016 at 19:44

      Cheers scott
      Not sold on Grimley has had some average nab performances stats wise.
      I genuinely think chol will play!
      Gone with deledio and martin as i feel they will outpeform a combo such as deledio and greene by a significant amount.

        Scott · 09/03/2016 at 19:56

        Ben I like your thinking, go for the best available don't worry about price fluctuation. So your not worried if a ruckman goes down? I have chosen a similar team with the criteria of disposal efficiency. I would love Shaw, but have gone for Laird, Birchall and McKenzie (still deciding) and have the same premiums in the mids , but with the extra cash have Pendles in the middle rather that Parish. I would love Wines but will pick him up during the season. I have Dalhaus in the forward line with Delidio Barlow, Wells Kerridge, Petracca and Grimley. I have same R1 and R2 but Max King for the forward swing, plus Captains loophole. A couple of my rookies are different but depends who is in line for round 1 selection.

          Ben · 09/03/2016 at 20:08

          going with the set and forget tactic with my rucks.
          I have seen parish once in the nab cup and i reckon he is better then mills!
          Had dalhaus all preseason then decided to go with barlow.
          Might get a nobody for the skip loophole in the ruc.

        Yah mum · 09/03/2016 at 23:05

        Greene and Martin different prices tho

BKLS · 09/03/2016 at 16:11

Great team BVC, I have been thinking along the same lines! Here is my current team, and I have 229k left over to spend on upgrades. Any changes? Where should I splash the cash? Thoughts/advice/feedback would be much appreciated 🙂 🙂

D: Laird, McGovern, Sheridan, Weitering, Hartley, Brown (Ess), (Collins, Ruggles) 
M: Fyfe, Danger, Ward, Shiel, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills (Gore, Mathieson, Macpherson) 
R: Gawn, Tippett (Chol) 
F: Dusty, Barlow, Stringer, Wells, Kerridge, Grimely (Petracca, AMT)

    Gord29 · 09/03/2016 at 17:11

    I'm taking it tippet isn't going to stay in rucks all year. i would put grimley on you ruck bench and pick up another rookie there. Then later on you can upgrade Wells or another rookie to a premo ruck (hopefully Goldstein) and swap Tippet into your fwd line leaving you with a swing for cover for the rest of the year

Brandon · 09/03/2016 at 16:34

Hoping for a competitive league, feel free to join if you're the real deal! 😉

Gibbs · 09/03/2016 at 16:50

Out of these options who should I have D3? Bartell, McGovern, Johanison, Yeo, B. Smith,

    tyler101 · 09/03/2016 at 17:27


    Ben · 09/03/2016 at 19:45


que · 09/03/2016 at 16:50

Best FWD rookie under 160k besides Kerridge, Petracca, Kommer, Grimley?

is it only Menaude and McCarthy? If, so, which one do I pick?

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 17:35

    i think MacDonald -Tipwingnut will get some games. Brown is a forward. I know both are DPP.

    Average Joe · 09/03/2016 at 18:54

    Wait till round 1 teams are released then make up your mind

    Northernsoul74 · 09/03/2016 at 19:20

    Adams at the Dogs will get games but not sure round 1.

Votes · 09/03/2016 at 16:52

Who should I have for F3? Toby Greene, Zach merret, Anthony hall, Rioli or Chad Wingard? Cheers

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 16:56

    If cash forbids it Wingard otherwise you cannot go wrong with Greene, Merret or Hall

    SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 16:57

    They all should be good picks but I'm probably choosing between Greene or Hall fwiw.

    West · 09/03/2016 at 16:58

    theres 100k difference in price between Hall and Wingard so depends what that 100k can do to your other lines?

    IMO, I really like Wingard this year but if you want to save 100k and use it elsewhere I'd go with Hall.

      Grahame Lebroy · 09/03/2016 at 17:12

      Hall or Greene

    Ethan017 · 11/03/2016 at 10:00

    Greene is a ball magnet

Jimmy P · 09/03/2016 at 17:00

Who should I pick:
Jack Viney, Mitch Duncan or Liam Shiels?

    Wattsieesq · 09/03/2016 at 17:14


    hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 17:40

    Definitely Duncan

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 17:57


    Marco_Polo94 · 10/03/2016 at 12:03

    I've gone Viney

SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 17:08

Shaw and Lonergan at D1 and D3. (Laird R2)

Or KK and Rich at D2 and D3. (Laird R1)

Also thoughts on Daniel Rich.

    Gord29 · 09/03/2016 at 17:19

    Shaw and Lonergan, I reckon Lonergan will score around the same as rich if he gets this midfield time and he will make more cash they both won't be keepers come season end

SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 17:20

SCaddict care to show the community your team?

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 17:46

    I'll also reveal my team if SCaddict does so like my comment above if you want to see our teams!

Liam · 09/03/2016 at 17:24

I'm starting to grow on the idea of not starting with Goldy.
Would going Tippett (R2), Pendles and McGovern/Rich be better than Goldy, Gresham and Shaw ?
I'm liking the first option because it gives me better scoring output and one extra keeper.

Please let me know your thoughts.
Cheers Liam

    Gord29 · 09/03/2016 at 17:28

    i perfer option two you have 2 definate keepers

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 17:57

    After seeing BVC team without Goldy, I have been fiddling around with starting without the big man and it has allowed me to go an extra premo mid (with the help of sacrificing KK for Lonergan at D3).

      Liam · 09/03/2016 at 19:57

      Same sort of thing i'm looking to do.
      McGovern is at D3 and Libba has moved to M7.

Marcus · 09/03/2016 at 17:41

What midfielder do i go with?

Gary Ablett

Dylan Shiel

Luke Parker

If i go with Gary then i have less cap space and im unsure about how he will start the season, plus if i go with either Shiel or Parker, i get more cap space plus its more POD for my team in the midfield as everyone is back Ablett

Thoughts community?

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 17:52

    I think if Ablett is fit for round 1, he is a must have. Too good to go without IMO. Then I would select Parker as I see Shiel copping the tag as he is the number 1 mid at the Giants. Parker is behind Hanners and JPK therefore I would select Ablett then Parker.

    neil · 09/03/2016 at 18:08

    thinking the same Markus except withparker or neale

Youngy · 09/03/2016 at 17:45

Solid team Barron, I like Ward as a slight POD

Youngy · 09/03/2016 at 17:50

What are people thoughts on Sloane?

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 17:55

    I wouldn't start with Sloane. He will be the new number 1 mid at the Crows and it is yet to be seen how he goes about it when he is getting tagged. Prefer Parker for a cheaper price.

Pacca · 09/03/2016 at 17:55

Hi guys – thoughts on Sheridan at d3 and either Mckenzie or Lonegan at D4. Too risky????

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 18:12

    I have been thinking about having Sheridan or Lonergan at D3 myself. Looks a bit unstable, but allows me to have 6 gun mids.

      Scott · 09/03/2016 at 18:52

      Yeah I agree there is a lot of uncertainty about the backline, but I have done the same putting McKenzie D3 allows me to upgrade to Danger have and have 5 premium midfielders.

        Wattsieesq · 09/03/2016 at 21:02

        McKenzie was good on the weekend but neither KK nor NM were playing. Not sure what his role will be when those two are back.

hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 17:58

Gazless team if I get jittery on his foot (put Fyfe in)
Shaw Laird Gov (K.Collins)
Weitering Hartley Brown (Ruggles)

Fyfe Danger Pendles (Mathieson)
Gray Rocky Libba (Petracca)
Mills Gresham (Davis)

Goldy Gawn (Loersch)

Choppies Winky Greene (Grimely)
Wells Menadue Kerridge (Mac-Tip)

Bugger all $ left any thoughts bit worried def is thin but taking a punt.

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 18:35

    Looks like a good backup hedeski.

      hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 18:53

      Yeah thanjs beast, could flick a mid or two down and strengthen def but looks juicy.

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 19:43

    Looks good. Bothering me to that Gaz isn't playing in NAB as well and the whole foot thing that's going on???

      hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 23:08

      Its gaz so????

SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 18:01

Wells and Lonergan or someone around 490k in defence and a fwd rookie?

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 19:12

    Wells and Lonergan

    Liam · 09/03/2016 at 19:58

    I prefer Sheridan if you can jump to him.

Leeds17 · 09/03/2016 at 18:19

Really tempted to run the 2 Daniels in the forward line Menzel & Wells, it's a little crazy and the injury risk wowee! but I think together they could & can outscore a premo and a rookie and at only a little over 500K……

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 18:34

    Your call mate.

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 19:15

    I actually have Menzel as my F4 and Wells as my M7 as a swing option in case someone gets injured or culled in a game?? But that could change after this weekend and heading into RD1?

    Cozza · 09/03/2016 at 23:49

    I'm running both of them in my forwards at the moment – definitely not locked but are a good chance to stay there.

gazza_for_coach · 09/03/2016 at 18:40

This might be a shit call. Im honestly considering brendan whitecross for the following reasons.
Hawthorn love him.
Averaged 80 before knees.
Hungry as hell to be back after first full preseason in 3 years.
26 years old ready to play good footy.
Only 198,000.
suckling to the doggies means he has in postion off back.
def,fwd could come in very handy with the likes of mitch brown and mcdonald tipa.
Hawthorn always dynamic out of the back half sharing it around.

I could be very wrong just think he could be an interesting and benificial pick.

Love to hear anyone else's thoughts on white-x

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 18:42

    Was the hype of the community last year, and a forgotten man this year. Interesting prospect, would like to hear others opinions.

      Derek · 09/03/2016 at 18:45

      I've mentioned him a few times. I think he is a big chance for round 1

        SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 18:49

        Derek whats your team look like?

          Derek · 09/03/2016 at 11:14

          i'm sure it has changed again. Because of Geelongs good draw i'm deciding to start with Dangerfield instead of JPK. That means i've had to re-arrange the deckchairs again to fit him in. Barron has inspired me to go with at least two onfield rookies in defence. I'm happy with most parts of the starting team, the only worry is Lobbe at R2 with the plan to upgrade to Goldy later.

          It all could change, especially if Whitecross gets named round 1

            Derek · 09/03/2016 at 11:35

            Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Rich, Brown, Collins (Hartley, Broad)

            Fyfe, Ablett, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rocky, Libba, Gresham, Kerridge (Maithieson, Keays, Dunkley)

            NicNat, Lobbe (Wyatt)

            Dusty, Wingard, Barlow, Wells, McCarthy, Petracca (Kommer, McDonald-T)

            $15k left.

          magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 19:18

          I've thought about him but I don't even think hes played a nab game yet has he???? I haven't heard a whole lot about him at all this year. Think you might have better luck with a Rookie?

    Grahame Lebroy · 09/03/2016 at 19:44

    He played both games . 51 and 76 pts. Think he is good value if he is in their best 22. Another worry is I am already considering Fyfe, Ablett, Libba, Wells, Menzel,Gawn,Nic Nat, Petracca which all have had injury issues or returning from serious injuries.

      DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 20:34

      Last year I went injury averse and so didn't pick the Higgensess and did pick the uninjurable Bartel, Rockliff and Sidebottom. That strategy didn't go too well.

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:47

      Ok I didnt know Whitecross played…..he hasnt been really on my radar based on price and no one is talking about him. Whats up with Libba??? Knew about Rocky and Ablett…..but nothing about libba?

        magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:47

        Or wells?

    Slats · 09/03/2016 at 21:47

    I've been keeping an eye on Whitecross this preseason because I too believe he is of great value, however my biggest issue is that he goes missing for big patches and I think Clarkson is toying with where to play him, with the emergence of Hartung down half back to replace suckling, he's pushed Whitecross more half fwd but with their fwd line being so strong (even without Roughead) it's hard to see him having much impact!! Will still keep an eye on him but not sold. I originally had him in but have since downgraded to Dea

'Don't Blush Babbie' · 09/03/2016 at 18:44

'The Snot Vest' – does anyone have a theory of who will benefit the most with the vest abolished this season ?

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 18:50


    SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 19:58

    Boomer Harvey! 🙂

    DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 20:34

    Every SuperCoach player.

    Wattsieesq · 09/03/2016 at 21:07


gazza_for_coach · 09/03/2016 at 18:46

This might be a shit call. Im honestly considering brendan whitecross for the following reasons.

John · 09/03/2016 at 18:59

Currently trying to decide between Simpkin Wells and Menzel can only choose 2 options and not sure at the moment any thoughts??

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 19:19

    Probably wells and menzel?

    tyler101 · 10/03/2016 at 10:14

    Wells and menzel

james · 09/03/2016 at 19:00

what percentage of teams is dylan shiel in

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 19:37


      Liam · 09/03/2016 at 20:00

      Not as much as I thought, could you tell me Parker's Beast ?

        Wattsieesq · 09/03/2016 at 21:10

        Parker in 10.35%

      james · 09/03/2016 at 20:06

      once again deliver the goods sc beast

George · 09/03/2016 at 19:30

Sheridan, Lonergan or McKenzie as D3? I reckon sheridan

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 22:44

    D3 should be a keeper

    Leeds17 · 10/03/2016 at 06:03

    Personally going Sheridan D3 Lonergan D4

MIke · 09/03/2016 at 19:35

I hate all these team reveals. Even more so when the side is very close to mine.
Still given half my info comes from this site anyway I can’t be too bitter I suppose. (But I still am.)

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 19:36

    If someone has a similar team to you, it means you have a similar mindset. Nothing to be bitter about. People cannot copy the trades you make during the season.

SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 19:45

What price to we see Shaw and Goldstein dropping to community?

    Hawks · 09/03/2016 at 19:59

    I see people scrambling to get Goldstein in their teams after round 2, before his price rises.
    Goldstein will be the #1 ruckman, with daylight at#2.

    Shaw will drop to around $520-530k

    Liam · 09/03/2016 at 20:00

    Shaw to around 530k and Goldy to around 620k.
    It only takes one bad score for them to drop significantly.

    Danners · 09/03/2016 at 20:59


    TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 21:10

    I see not much change in goldy may drop to 650ish that's about a 120 avg. I think he is more than capable of that. The only one he really has trouble with is sandi but last time scored 119. The 44 was a one off as he got a kick in the face early in the game.

    Shaw hoping he drops a bit as looking at not starting him. $520k is about a 100 avg so if he goes about 105 it will b around $550k. Hoping someone sits on him rd 4-5 to send his price south.

    Love to have both but cant afford them all.

      'Don't Blush Babbie' · 09/03/2016 at 21:32

      What do you think SC_Beast ? ALL SUPER PREMOS – we talk about that we need them in now but at the same time we look for value and eventually we trade them in if we don't have them too start with – the SKILL or LUCK is do we get them NOW or LATER ?
      For the record I have Heater but no Goldy – Opinions are like BUMS, we all have one – Best of LUCK to all !

        magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:57

        LOL…….I have Goldy and Heater……dont even want try to work to trade up to them……they will or should be #1 at their positions?

          SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 23:42

          History would say you're wrong. Every season we seem to have some new ruck or defender king of the hill.

          Hard to back it up from a career year for already established players unless your name is Gary Ablett.

          But maybe 2016 will be different.

            magpie4ver · 10/03/2016 at 01:08

            History always changes or stays a certain course? History can ride for a few years and be dominate! If anyone can do it I think Shaw and Goldy could do it??? They are pretty damn dominate in their positions regarding the AFL when it comes to consistency! What 2 better players to ride a cool tasty wave!

    hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 23:14

    Not worried locks

    DuckingTigers · 10/03/2016 at 18:06

    Heath Shaw worries me this year, he's usually good one year and then in serious trouble the next. This year could the year of Bad Heater and it can be a long cold winter with a bung heater.

Jess · 09/03/2016 at 19:55

Dahlhaus or Zorko this year? Concerned about Dahlhaus' performance with libba back, and Zorko's terrible start to last year, but have space for one of them. Thoughts?

    Steeeve · 09/03/2016 at 21:36

    I couldn't choose so I went with Wingard instead. Power have such an easy start to the season, he should go big.

    hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 23:24

    Reckon Z The Mag is a perfect upgrade target because of the terrible start Jess.

    magpie4ver · 10/03/2016 at 14:33

    I like Dahlhaus to and he was in my team like the first week but changed to Barlow because he is cheaper and Libba played a factor as well.

John · 09/03/2016 at 19:56

Hey everyone, I need some help with the rookies I have selected or if you see any other places in my team that can be improved I will really appreciate you to let me know.
DEF: laird, Gibson, Bartel, rich, brown, adamson(Hartley, Broad)
MID: fyfe, pendlebury, Ablett, sidebottom, libber, crouch, mills, gresham(Mathisen,maCpherson,Beech)
FWD:dusty,Barlow,Greene,wells,kerridge,petracca(tipungiwiti, McCarthy
140k left

    Hawks · 09/03/2016 at 20:04

    Like your team John, but don't go with Gibson.

    I am a hawks supporter, and wouldn't contemplate a hawks defender, they constantly change roles and share it around so much. I would go with a weaker team where the roles are more defined, and the ball is in the defensive area more frequently, someone like Simpson.

    John · 09/03/2016 at 20:07

    Would you consider McGovern as a good pick

    Wattsieesq · 09/03/2016 at 21:12

    I think McCarthy has an injury cloud?

nipplepassers · 09/03/2016 at 19:59

Gday community , would love some feedback on my current team, top 2000 last year thanks to this site :

Shaw , laird , McGovern,
Weitering, byrne-jones ,Hartley
(Collins ) ( Mcdonald tipungwuti )

Fyfe , danger , pendles , ablett
Rockliff, libba , petracca , polkinghorne
( Cunningham ) ( Mathieson ) ( Macpherson )

Goldstein , S Martin ( cox )

Martin , barlow , m. Robinson ,
Wells , kerridge , grimley
( brown – ess ) ( beech )

    Wattsieesq · 09/03/2016 at 21:13

    I'd look to replace Grimley.

SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 20:03

Rockliff will miss NAB 3 with a Hamstring injury!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Grahame Lebroy · 09/03/2016 at 20:08

    That's not good

    Holty · 09/03/2016 at 20:29

    cheers Beast. I think everyones team will need to be changed soon if Ablett Selwood and Rocky arent playing round 1.

    tophawk · 09/03/2016 at 20:44

    Holy Crap!!! Hammies are usually 3 weeks as a starting point. bad development this. I am stewing over Gazza and now I am stewing over Rocky!!

    Thanks for the heads up SC Beast.

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 20:54

      Figures…….as I was to Tophawk

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 20:58

      Hammies are problematic all year to. Shit time to work on plan B with Abs and Rocky not looking Good!

      SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 21:10

      It's described as more of a niggle rather than a tear.

      So whether that means a strain or just tightness I'm not sure but he's expected to line up for Rd1 as far as I know.

      Whilst it may not be panic stations just yet it's still a concern obviously.

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 21:14

        Believe it is just tightness the lions r taking a no risk policy with rocky in pre season. But does hit a couple of alarm bells watch this space.

          magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:18

          Hamstrings always turn out to be problematic once they start………not sure if I wanna deal with if plays 1 week and not the next but have to wait and see??? Or he just blows out the hammy in RD1 and is done for the year??

            SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 23:36

            It's certainly not what you want to hear just 2 weeks out from Rd1.

    Danners · 09/03/2016 at 20:57

    Cool, see if he makes round 1, doesn't change my opinion on him at the moment

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:02

      Hamstring should…..that's usually a reoccurring issue and now not the time.

        Danners · 10/03/2016 at 09:58

        It's hamstring tightness not a tear, should be fine for round 1

    hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 23:15

    You are a beast. Hmm rebuild.

    Marco_Polo94 · 10/03/2016 at 12:08

    Well I feel much better about swapping him for Viney a few days ago aha. Hope it isn't serious!!

King of harts · 09/03/2016 at 20:10

Mcdonald laird kk Hartley broad collins tucker tippa
Danger pendles ablett rocky parker libba mills kerridge gore Mathieson davis
Goldy Martin Wyatt
Dusty Barlow Robinson wells McCarthy brown grimly petracca

Not quite settled just yet but happy with fwd and Def(depending on rookies)
Still tempted to go with Neale and maybe Sloane and worried about the spend in ruck but overall would be happy going into round 1 with this team

My biggest question is where do I spend the 168k leftover? ? Thoughts

    Keenbutclueless · 09/03/2016 at 20:49

    Maybe take out McCarthy. Move Kerridge forward, and if Crouch is ready, put him in M7. Or just turn McCarthy into DeGoey.

    Alternatively, if you think running 3 rookies in Defence is a risk, upgrade 1 to Aish/Wilson/Fantasia/McDonald

    Wattsieesq · 09/03/2016 at 21:17

    Get rid of Grimley as well. I'd look at spending part of your $168k upgrading Robinson.

      King of harts · 09/03/2016 at 21:40

      I'm backing in robinson, end of last yr was in bear mode and see him finishing top 6 forwards this yr, another bloke who seems to find himself life after carlton.
      Jury is out on grimly but rookies are never finalized till round 1
      Toyed with ais but don't like the rest at all, prefer to wait and see with the defence as I actually think yh e rookies aren't to bad there this yr and I don't trust the rest and not wiling to pay for heater..
      May consider Mckenzie in defence if his forms continues this week against good opposition

    hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 23:29

    Love little lachie neale mate tough as nails

@SC_Centre · 09/03/2016 at 20:36

Great team mate, almost identical to mine.

    SC_Beast · 09/03/2016 at 21:24

    Give the community a team reveal?

      Que · 09/03/2016 at 21:36

      relax with the team reveals beast

        SC_Beast · 10/03/2016 at 07:19

        Mate I'm just keen to see some of the experts teams! So many varieties!

          Que · 10/03/2016 at 08:48

          You realise that people with highlighted names arent necessarily experts? Theyve just made intense debate accounts

            SC_Beast · 10/03/2016 at 16:17

            Well SC Centre is – look at twitter.

tophawk · 09/03/2016 at 20:39

I didn't start with Ablett last season. My gut told me that shoulder still was not right. I am starting to have reservations again this year. We have not seen him play yet, and appears to be carrying some niggles. In sum, even if he lines up round one, could the great Gazza be rusty and be somewhat underdone? As 627K is a big spend it requires peace of mind. As such, I am considering not starting with him again this year.

IMO, there is a huge opportunity to grab a super premo from the GWS midfield (No Treloar ) as a replacement for Gaz.

Who is the better pick community? Dylan Shiel or Callan Ward? Personally, I have Ward slightly ahead of Shiel. Any thoughts appreciated. Cheers

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 20:45

    I think a few of us are thinking that…..I know I am!

    I like both tough call! But if I go without Abs it will be one of them.

    Think I would go Ward but might go shiels too just to save cash??

      tophawk · 09/03/2016 at 20:55

      Just what I was thinking! The 19K you can save by grabbing Shiel could be very handy. Both players are capable of similar high outputs. For me right now is who is more likely to cop the tag? Thats the million buck question.

        DuckingTigers · 09/03/2016 at 21:03


    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:00

    Now Rocky has hamstring issue and set to miss Nab 4 with no games in the Nab Challenge.

      tophawk · 09/03/2016 at 21:05

      I know! Just heard the news. Its one bloody drama after another. I guess its better to have them now rather than after round one. My midfield is going to get a serious shake up the way its going.

        magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:14

        Yep I'm working on Plan B now!

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 21:16

    Watched the game the other day sheil looks so composed with ball in hand. Silk. But cant go wrong with either really.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 21:19

    Yeah working on my plan b without abs or rocky. Abs – pendles/priddus.
    Rocky -sheil.

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:34

      I already had pendels…..I went to Danger and shiels……..god I hate this time of year especially with the injury news

      Bad enough trying to put a stucture together with rookies and now Ablett and Rocky?

      tophawk · 09/03/2016 at 21:37

      Hi Trigger,

      I love Priddis as a replacement for Gaz. IMO Priddis will run that WCE midfield like a general.

      Pendles has so much competition with upcomers (De Goey, Aish) and established midfielders (Sidebottom, Swan, Adams, etc)

      My choice between Ward or Shiel is still up in the air. I will wait and see how things develop during NAB 3.


        TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 21:44

        Thanks hawk yeah both quality. Not sure why priddus gets no love? 1st nab game punches out a 150 not a mention. As usual would be a pod. Would sure put my mind at ease without the worry of abletts foot.

    Derek · 09/03/2016 at 22:31

    Ablett just hates playing NAB games. He will be ok

      Kev · 10/03/2016 at 09:41

      Gives a bit of a shakeup to the cookie cutter mids; I love it! Will decide last minute to go with Gaz or not. I still have nightmares about trying to get him in my side

Ben · 09/03/2016 at 20:39

What's everyone's thoughts on Leigh Montagna?

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 20:46

    Me ….personally no….to expensive and long in the tooth.

Jordan · 09/03/2016 at 20:43

Hey everyone would u pick Simpson or McGovern for the extra 80k

    tophawk · 09/03/2016 at 21:01

    Mc Govern is in my team. I love his versatility. Can play up forward and kick goals, grab big intercept marks when playing in defence. He seems in good shape and if he stays fit, a $429K price is bloody good value. The 80K will be needed to address the Rockliff and Ablett issues.


Francis · 09/03/2016 at 20:57

Hall or Stringer?

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:13


    tophawk · 09/03/2016 at 21:16


    Purely because currently the Gold Coast midfield has more holes in it than swiss cheese. (No Prestia, No wallow, No O'Meara etc)

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 09/03/2016 at 21:46

    I'm going stringer just gut feel and the fact doggies have their first 7 games under the roof.

Ryan · 09/03/2016 at 21:22

Best player around 180-250k mark considering either dea,whitecross,parish or weitering

    Ryan · 09/03/2016 at 21:31

    Or just go for a rookie if so who?!!!

    Cozza · 09/03/2016 at 23:46


George · 09/03/2016 at 21:32

What's the go with Ablett is he injured?

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 22:03

    He's out of my side I'm not dealing with BS like last yr…..I'm taking players that are Healthy players…….no niggles…..tired of the BS niggles……and wondering and hoping they make it through and play the next week! Did this Shit with Ablett and Rocky last year…….no more no way! No Fit No Go!!! No NABs either!

Steeeve · 09/03/2016 at 21:39

Brad Crouch named. If he plays well and Rocky is out for round one that will be very tempting.

    magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 21:59

    What? Rocky is out RD1 now?

      Que · 09/03/2016 at 22:09

      "a certainty for round one"

      He'll play. Brisbane just arent taking risks

        SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 23:29

        Let's hope so!

        All these NAB no shows are only elevating anxiety levels around this joint. At least Crouch will play this weekend or so it seems.

          kevwal · 10/03/2016 at 11:32

          Brad Crouch and Atkins banned for 1 week by club, not being good boys off the park.

            SCaddict · 10/03/2016 at 12:10


            The NAB no shows continue. The fantasy gods are having their fun with us before the season even begins.

      Steeeve · 10/03/2016 at 08:22

      "If" the key word. Some reports he's fine just a tight hammy. Has to get through more than a week of training with it before he plays though.

Pete · 09/03/2016 at 21:52

Thinking outside of the box here for structures. This could be a great discussion point for everybody this season leading up to final selections. After chopping and changing my team and structures Im getting very confused but I remember i mentioned a fellow amid supercoach nut that i would select my team by picking the 12 best rookies first with their scoring potential then fill in the rest.

Lets all do some research and find the highest scoring rookies for this year. Can we name a dozen and their projected averages?

    Kev · 09/03/2016 at 23:06

    A lot of guesswork predicting rookie averages, Pete. Personally I'm happy with a 60-65ave fwd/def. 75-80 for mids. Changes for everyone though

      Pete · 09/03/2016 at 23:15

      That's true Kev! Kind of feel there aren't any Vandenberg's this year where they will score 90-100's at all.
      If the best we get from these rookies is 50-70pts we have to only get 102-130k so they make us the most otherwise how are we going to upgrade any of these mid pricers or other rookies.

Ewing · 09/03/2016 at 22:07

Excellent team there Barron. I was wondering if I could get the communities thoughts on my team

Def: Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Aish, Brown, Hartley/// Ruggles,Collins

Mid: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Parish// Gresham, Gore, Mathieson

Ruck: Gawn, Z.Smith// Wyatt

Forward: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Cockatoo, Kerridge/// Petracca, Grimley

Ive gone huge in the midfield with 6 keepers (assuming libba is a keeper) and arguably the 2 best rookie midfielders this year. In the defence I reckon Shaw and Laird will both average over 100. Bartel has averaged over 100 past seasons and the only time he might have been rested is round 23, he might have tooth length but he will not be rested. Aish should average over 80. Gawn will finish top 5 rucks. Im assuming one of Greene and Z.Smith will be a keeper, the latter I can upgrade to a premium. Wells is purely there as a stepping stone (same as aish). Thoughts community?

    Kev · 09/03/2016 at 23:01

    Huge call on Aish to average 80+. 70 imo, 75 max. I'd hope to be hanging onto Greene over Smith, he's not in same league as Goldy/Martin.

HOLLA · 09/03/2016 at 22:54

Priddis or beams?

Havent seen beams in a team yet. Also very few with Priddis.

    SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 23:24

    Beams has had a heavily modified preseason as he fully recovers from that shoulder reconstruction.

    Even if he makes Rd1 I'd be pretty hesitant picking him. Priddis, Gray, JPK or Armitage all look like great alternatives to me and cost a few less dimes too.

      HOLLA · 09/03/2016 at 23:32

      Yeah i dont know i just think if given a clean run at it hes a top 5 midfielder not just in supercoach terms.

        SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 23:54

        You may well be on the money there but the safer play would still be to upgrade to him midseason just to make sure that body is AOK first. That's I'm sure the plan for many coaches which is why he's barely been spoken about as a starting selection in 2016.

        Doubt he would burn you for not initially picking him in the same way a Gaz or Rocky could with their monster ceilings. Just pick another elite like Priddis, JPK or Pendles and you'll be fine.

        But if you start with Beamsy and that shoulder falls off in the 1st qtr of Rd1 you'll probably be wishing there was a fantasy rewind button. But this is only one man's advice so do what you feel is right for your team.

wombatsfc · 09/03/2016 at 22:57

Hi community I'm feeling stereotypically lazy this year so could somebody please tell me the 6 best defenders, 8 best mids, 2 best rucks, 6 best best forwards and the 8 best rookies with all of them fitting into the salary cap.
Thanks in advance and don't thinking that you can sneak rubbish like grimely mathieson keays etc past me.

    HOLLA · 09/03/2016 at 23:00

    Not serious…. are you??

      wombatsfc · 09/03/2016 at 23:04

      Of course I am. Rather than mix it up over 10 or 12 posts like everybody else I'm taking the conservationist approach to help save the html's

        HOLLA · 09/03/2016 at 23:07

        Youll still get 10000 diferent opinions/combinations.

          SCaddict · 09/03/2016 at 23:16

          Just Wombats being Wombats HOLLA. I suggest we all just go about our day, or evening rather. 🙂

    ThatDamnRascal · 09/03/2016 at 23:31

    Happy to oblige.

    Baguley, Hartley, Dea, Brown, McDonald-Tipungwuti,C. Dempsey
    (Gleeson, Grima)
    Goddard, Zaharakis, Kelly, Crowley, Parish, Polkinghorne, Bird, Simpkin
    Leuenberger, Michael
    Cooney, Daniher, Laverde, Langford, Merrett, Merrett
    (Stokes, Grimley)
    Goodluck for the 2016 season

      Derek · 10/03/2016 at 00:52

      No Zac Dawson?

        Kev · 10/03/2016 at 09:36

        Priced at his ceiling imo, upgrade target. Looks solid Rascal!

wombatsfc · 09/03/2016 at 23:02

Who do we get to replace Brian Johnson?

    hedeski · 09/03/2016 at 23:17

    Bon scott? Glug

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 23:25

      Bon Jovi

      magpie4ver · 09/03/2016 at 23:28

      That was funny!!!

    BundyBear · 10/03/2016 at 00:50

    Thats a very good question. Dan from Nazareth has . or had a great voice. Sadly I think its the end of the road for ACDC. The music will last forever though. Rock On

HOLLA · 09/03/2016 at 23:04

Stephen Kernahan?

BundyBear · 10/03/2016 at 00:48

Howdy all. Anyone want to join a league then feel free to join. League number is 582937. Thankyou

Jess · 10/03/2016 at 01:27

Sharing my secret POD with everyone because I've decided I dont have the balls (literally) to pick him. Sharing is caring community.

Zak Williams DEF for around $370,000.

Take out his first three games of the seasons where he was sub, and you've got a consistent scorer of 89 PPG average.

Thats the same average as Kolodjashnij, but for over 100,000 cheaper.

He has the ability to crack the ton, and as a 22yo, is entering break-out age. If youve watched him play, youll see he uses the ball well. His NAB outing the other day was a considerable 79 points. The only reason I didn't pic him is because it just didnt look right having someone that cheap as F3, but he definitely is a good option.

    Leeds17 · 10/03/2016 at 05:58

    Was all over him early pre-season but in the NAB has been playing a more defensive role with Nathen Wilson playing the rebounding role, just think at this stage Lonergan &/ Sheridan are better options but if Wilson doesn't get a gig R1 I'll be interested again.

    Big balls · 10/03/2016 at 07:51

    Love him too until nab , still think a solid pick tho , agree with the above reply probably better options

SC_Beast · 10/03/2016 at 07:23

Just looking back at my end of year team last year, I have not seen a team with Armitage in it! He was a gun at the end of last year, same with Beams.

Grahame Lebroy · 10/03/2016 at 07:48

I really wanted him in this year but decided not to in the end. I just think there are better options round that price.
He did pump his average up last year and must of scored most SC points for Saints players. Could be a great POD.

BKLS · 10/03/2016 at 07:50

Great team BVC, I have been thinking along the same lines! Here is my current team, and I have 229k left over to spend on upgrades. Any changes? Where should I splash the cash? Thoughts/advice/feedback would be much appreciated 🙂 🙂

    BKLS · 10/03/2016 at 07:51

    Oops disregard this didn't mean to post

Grahame Lebroy · 10/03/2016 at 07:56

Thinking of only starting the year with only 2 keepers in Def. Is this too risky? Just having trouble identifying who the top 10 def are

    Kev · 10/03/2016 at 08:10

    Not the worst idea as long as you can identify 4-6 backline rookies with decent js. You don't want to be eating donuts early or you'll fall behind

Greg · 10/03/2016 at 08:20

Haven't posted on here in a while would just like the communities thoughts on my side
Shaw, laird, Bartel, brown, Hartley, DBJ, (broad, Collins)
Fyfe, danger, Ablett, Shiel, Rockliff, liberatore, mills, kerridge( Mathieson Gresham, Jansen)
Goldy, natinui (loersch)
Martin, Barlow, Hall/Greene, wells, McCarthy, Petraca, (tippa, cox)

Would love to know what people think I should do with the left over 78k???

    Kev · 10/03/2016 at 09:31

    Nice even spread, Greg. Looks good. I'd be happy to keep that 78k in the bank for round 1

Chill · 10/03/2016 at 09:12

People avoiding teams that won't perform well? I had Beams all year and was pretty happy. Not sure why people arent considering him, he's a gun. Great POD.

    magpie4ver · 10/03/2016 at 10:36

    I like Beams but isnt he suppose to miss round 1??

    Wattsieesq · 10/03/2016 at 14:11

    Beams is coming off a shoulder reco. Could be another GAJ circa 2015. People are being cautious. Armitage came flying out of the blocks last year but died in the arse as the season went on. Could be a good stepping stone to an ultra premium.

Derek · 10/03/2016 at 09:17

Makes a tough decision for anyone going with that second mid priced midfielder.

Safer option might be Hartung

    Holty · 10/03/2016 at 09:42

    true. Never considered Crouch until last night with news of Rocky maybe missing round 1. My side this year has simply been based on people I have found to be great value. Ablett Rocky and Selwood no certainties for round 1, may need to start from scratch again

      CaPtKaOs · 10/03/2016 at 09:53

      Hmmm…I'm sticking with Crouch at this stage. He is a proven point scorer at AFL anyway. I just want to see him play lots of minutes and not pull up sore….at any level

        Holty · 10/03/2016 at 10:12

        I honestly think they wont play him early in the season now. Adelaide has invested a lot into him and now on his week off, he lets the entire team down. If he is selected for round 1, not a good look for the club when they have their team rules in place and someone simply dis-respects it. But there will be a lot of very happy Super Coach's around.

          Derek · 10/03/2016 at 10:31

          I think Atkins was in the same boat

            Holty · 10/03/2016 at 10:59

            yeah he is part of it but didnt mention him as he isnt really supercoach relevant.

          tophawk · 10/03/2016 at 10:33

          I agree Holty. There is no way B. Crouch will be lining up in Round 1 after breaking team protocol. He will probably spend 2-3 weeks in the SANFL earning back the respect of his team mates. The fact that the crows have a really tough draw at the start of the season makes it quite likely Crouch will get an opportunity sooner rather than later. That said, it is still not worth the risk putting him in your team (bench) for rd 1. You will need the 300K working for you and generating points.

            Swans2012 · 10/03/2016 at 12:21

            Does this generate an opportunity for BOB (brother of brad)? If b crouch not named round 1 I'll seriously look at m crouch as a short term fill in, hopefully get 2 price rises and then an early downgrade to his brother brad around round 5 or when he is on the bubble. Or i could be dreaming…..

              Keenbutclueless · 10/03/2016 at 12:28

              Maybe use Lonergan instead? Softer draw. Many outs for GC in the midfield. Eade said Lonergan and Hall will be in the midfield rotation. When Ablett, Prestia and Swallow return, would expect Lonergan's role to change. But he might be a good short term option

              Kev · 10/03/2016 at 16:46

              If I selected M. Crouch I'd squeeze every penny out if him, downgrading him to another midpricer is a waste of a trade

                Swans2012 · 10/03/2016 at 17:36

                Disagree Kev, I did it a couple of times last year successfully (mostly), if you can downgrade a mid pricer to another mid pricer who is scoring the same and make 100-150k why wouldn't you? Same as culling a rookie but you don't have to wait around for as long.

                  Holty · 10/03/2016 at 17:54

                  this is true Swans but doing so uses up those valuable trades earlier. No reason it cant be done but if you get hit with injuries early, you'd be wishing you held on to those trades for longer.

                    Swans2012 · 10/03/2016 at 20:11

                    Right you are, but 150k when everyone else is waiting for there lambs to fatten is a solid head start. I traded hard last year with this sort of trading and clawed my way from 10kish after round 2 or 3 to 66 overall after the byes, then made the erroneous Jacobs over Goldstein decision that derailed my season. Well that and as you say no trades left last 3 or 4 rounds. But each to there own, personally I'll be looking for these sort of options especially this year when teams are looking fairly samey.

                    Holty · 10/03/2016 at 23:32

                    this is what i love about this community. so many top supercoaches and so many with different advice. just goes to show that one way isnt always the right way. Looking forward to this season of supercoach.

                    Swans2012 · 11/03/2016 at 06:13

                    Damn straight holty! Can't bloody wait!

Kev · 10/03/2016 at 09:33

Reckon Shaw will easily be the top defender, if you're going light in defence you should be starting with him imo

murray · 10/03/2016 at 11:38

A Hall or T Greene?? Who will perform better this year and why?

    Kev · 10/03/2016 at 16:42

    Hall will start well but will eventually be squeezed out of the middle as gc mids return. I would select Greene with the view of him being a keeper, Hall as a stepping stone to a Dusty/Zorko type

      HOLLA · 11/03/2016 at 00:27

      Hall wont be squeezed ou if playing well. Surely ablett will get pushed forward to allow hall to progress in the midfield

Shake n bake · 10/03/2016 at 12:29

Shaw Laird Bartel Dea Byrne-J Brown Hartley Collins
Fyfe Ablett Danger Pendles Rocky Libba Parish Gore Patracca Keays Mathieson
Goldy Gawn Whatt
Martin Barlow Hall Wells Kerridge Kommer Grimley McDT

Shaw Laird McGovern Byrne-J Brown Hartley Collins Broad
Ablett Pendles Danger Rocky Sheil Parker Libba Gore Patracca Keays Mathieson
Martin Gawn Whatt
Martin Barlow Hall Wells Kerridge Kommer Grimley McDT

Made 5 changes to 2nd team lost Bartel Dea in Def Fyfe Parish in Mids Goldy in Ruck.
Gained McGovern Broad Def Sheil Parker Mids Martin Ruck.
Which team would the community like? Will have $12.900 left in bank with 1st Team $27.600 in the 2nd.
Share your thoughts.

    Derek · 10/03/2016 at 13:52

    first team I'd give it 8/10. Second team a 5/10

      Shake n bake · 10/03/2016 at 14:02

      Tnx Derek, what changes would you make to the 1st team? 8/10 pretty good.

        Derek · 10/03/2016 at 15:00

        8/10 is pretty good.

        Personally I go Dea to a bargin rookie will make you more cash. Also upgrade the "flavour of this week" Hall to a proper keeper at F3. Wingard or Robinson (especially if Beams and Rocky have problems)

        I know it makes it more guns n rookies

Ethan017 · 10/03/2016 at 12:40

Rate my team if you could
Laird, Bartel, Mcgovern, Dea, Brown (ess.), Hartley (K.Collins, Mdonal-Tipwungwati)
Fyfe, Danger, Gazza, Shiel, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Parish (Cunningham, Keays, Mathieson)
Nic Nat, Z.Smith (Grimley)
Dusty, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Ben Kennedy, Kerridge (Petracca, Cox)
Cheers fellas

    Big G · 10/03/2016 at 15:22

    If you are keen on Parish, an alternative young rookie that not many people are considering is Clayton Oliver. Word is he will play regularly from round 1 and is more developed in the body than Parish.

      'Don't Blush Babbie' · 10/03/2016 at 18:36

      Yes Big G, I have Oliver on my watch list, he's been compared to another Oliver in Wines

      Ethan017 · 10/03/2016 at 19:43

      Seems like a gun just wondering if with his price tag he'll score better then Parish and Mills

Liam · 10/03/2016 at 13:57

Is having Weitering at D3 okay ?
What's the communitys thoughts?

Cheers Liam

    Derek · 10/03/2016 at 14:38

    I wouldn't even have him. Too expensive. Stick with the cheap defence rookie, will go ok.

    Kev · 10/03/2016 at 16:35

    Round 1 will be his 3rd game of senior footy. Massive risk to rely on him as your D3

    Cam · 10/03/2016 at 17:25

    I'd be potentially worried, only roling with 2 bloks above him in your backline leaves you bloody vulnerable, all you need is one of your two premo's to cop an injury and you could be starved of point production. Obviously you would have cash elsewhere but there is potentially for a donut that i think outweighs the benefit

    Liam · 10/03/2016 at 17:53

    Cheers guys, I dropped Pendles in the mids and upgraded a rookie to Shaw.
    Weitering is now at D4.

      Derek · 10/03/2016 at 23:32

      Drop him. To expensive

james · 10/03/2016 at 16:41

can we run ward and shiel in the smae midfield because shiel was going to be my replacement for rocky if not who is a mid that is under 580k that is a POD or do i already have to many PODs in my mids

current mids- danger mundy priddis ward steven (rocky replacement) libba clarke

    Gord29 · 10/03/2016 at 17:18

    parker or wines

    Kev · 10/03/2016 at 18:27

    You can do whatever you want, james. No rule against picking two blokes from the same midfield.

    Ethan017 · 10/03/2016 at 20:14

    Rockliff won't play NAB 4 but he will be there come round 1

karl · 10/03/2016 at 16:54

is trent mckenzie a good option in defence had a couple of years were he averaged mid 80's and with lonegan set to take swallows role he could be the main ball user across halfback

    Cam · 10/03/2016 at 17:28

    Definitely worth keeping an eye on, excluding Shaw there is not a lot of surety in the backline and there could be something said for taking a punt given that he has performed in the past. Blokes are still giving B Smith a spot and i'd say Trent McCannon has a better history + better nab form

      hedeski · 10/03/2016 at 18:10

      Smith all australian?

      SC_Beast · 10/03/2016 at 18:53

      McKenzie has played 1 good NAB game with no Malceksi/KK. He will be the first one out of that Suns team, Rocket doesn't like him

xav · 10/03/2016 at 17:39

mills or parish

    Liam · 10/03/2016 at 17:55

    I think Mills will flourish of half back and I can see him averaging 80 odd.
    Parish on the other hands go average that much, but I would be more confident in Mills.

    Cheers Liam

Mark · 10/03/2016 at 17:54

Fyfe or ablett

    hedeski · 10/03/2016 at 19:10


    Derek · 10/03/2016 at 23:29

    Silly question

mark · 10/03/2016 at 18:03

m. crouch and shaw or

    Kev · 10/03/2016 at 18:23


Marcus · 10/03/2016 at 18:43

Thoughts on Ben Kennedy?

    Keenbutclueless · 10/03/2016 at 23:29

    Has reasonable job security imo. Not guaranteed but reasonable. A chance he gives way when Petracca is ready. A little awkwardly priced. Can't see him scoring more than Parish, Crowley or Mills, all at cheaper prices. He is only 24k less than Wells. Probably not much between Kennedy, Duggan, Anderson or Simpkin at that price. Luck of the draw amongst that lot for me. Will be some value, but I am not sure it will be enough value.

      HOLLA · 11/03/2016 at 00:08

      All at cheaper prices?

      Wattsieesq · 11/03/2016 at 00:37

      Apt user name lol

        Keenbutclueless · 11/03/2016 at 01:21

        yes! Had just done my AFL Fantasy team and his price there is 221k. So had that number in my head. Probably does mean he is a bit better value than the lot I mentioned. Doh! At least my name is fair warning, but was hoping not to live up to it too often

Pinidu · 10/03/2016 at 18:52

G'day community,

I have a small (actually large) predicament which I am facing. In SuperCoach Draft I currently have Dylan Shiel (GWS) in my midfield and a mate of mine has proposed a trade for his Luke Parker (SYD). Should I go ahead with the deal? Parker has been setting the world alight in the NAB challenge and is in ripping form.

In other words:
Dylan Shiel (GWS) vs Luke Parker (SYD)
Who wins?

Thanks in advance.

    Kev · 10/03/2016 at 19:21

    Hard one. Both teams have pretty stacked midfields. I'd be happy to stick with Shiel

    Rascal · 11/03/2016 at 11:36

    Stick fat. Sheil is a gun.

hedeski · 10/03/2016 at 19:13

Looking fwd to tiges v port game. Lots of significance cant wait for write up.

    SC_Beast · 10/03/2016 at 20:33

    Wines looks bloody good! 72 points at the half.

      hedeski · 10/03/2016 at 20:48

      Sure does. Looks primed bit leaner.

      tophawk · 10/03/2016 at 21:03

      He looks razor sharp!

      At 525K and Port's very friendly draw in the first half of the season makes him very very lockable.

        hedeski · 10/03/2016 at 21:17

        Yeah takin him over gray $avings

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/03/2016 at 11:38

    Sticking with robbie and the Chad.

Outforblood · 10/03/2016 at 19:36

Anyone wants to join a league number 466129

Big balls · 10/03/2016 at 20:59

Sam gray locked and loaded at f3 after that first half vs tigers . All I wanted to see from him and he produced .

    tophawk · 10/03/2016 at 21:11

    I agree. I have seen enough. He is on fire. Sam Gray is locked.

      Swans2012 · 10/03/2016 at 21:44

      Yep, looks the perfect f3. I can feel his podness eroding with every possession

      'Don't Blush Babbie' · 10/03/2016 at 21:45

      I've had Duncan locked at M5 but I may need to have a rethink on S.Gray @ 480k and DPP, also Port have a good draw early on

        Burndog · 10/03/2016 at 23:27

        Yeah. I swapped Duncs out for S.(hades of) Gray earlier. DPP and a few extra coins made it less painful. I still feel like Duncs could go big…but Gray looked a lock tonight.

    Danners · 10/03/2016 at 21:50

    Has been very impressive, has been playing in a full strength midfield, and would have averaged around the mid 90s this preseason. He has ventured his way into my team…

    Derek · 10/03/2016 at 23:28

    It's Nab! Don't get caught.

      Marco_Polo94 · 10/03/2016 at 23:42

      boom, wisdom.

        hedeski · 11/03/2016 at 00:38

        Boom. Bellchambers.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/03/2016 at 11:40

      Yep stick with Duncan

    PJ8 · 11/03/2016 at 08:50

    Good chance to break outbut…
    Don't get caught in the NAB trap!

    Happens every year, mid price players dominate the NAB and everyone jumps on.
    One word


tophawk · 10/03/2016 at 21:58

Hi community,

Any thoughts on Bachar Houli at D1 or D2?

    hedeski · 10/03/2016 at 22:16

    Im liking rance

    Holty · 10/03/2016 at 22:22

    always a thought but what will his role be when Yarran plays?

      Average Joe · 11/03/2016 at 08:06

      Doesn't matter, unless you can see the future and he does well, I wouldn't even hover my mouse over him

    Wattsieesq · 11/03/2016 at 00:42

    I've been tossing up between Houli and Shaw at D1. I think he'll be a solid pick. He'll make his way into my team at some point during the year.

      Average Joe · 11/03/2016 at 08:05

      If it's between shaw and houli go shaw every day

    Kev · 11/03/2016 at 08:13

    I really like Houli, but I think at 516k he's priced at his ceiling. He is fairly consistent so he won't bottom out, but I can see him dropping 50-60k. Scored 33 more fantasy points than SC last night. His uncontested possessions when the game is over aren't gonna count for much

Big balls · 10/03/2016 at 22:41

Houli is a gun . Not sure with yarran tho .

    tophawk · 10/03/2016 at 23:09

    Silence!!!!! Sam Gray big lock! Welcome!

Trent · 10/03/2016 at 23:25

Anyone know Richmond V Port Adelaide supercoach scores?

    Holty · 11/03/2016 at 00:06

    check fanfooty. it should have it up now

poloko48 · 10/03/2016 at 23:33

Better chance of Gore getting game time with Crouch on the nose?

    hedeski · 11/03/2016 at 00:42

    Fair chance Rednut steakknives ready to go anyway

    Derek · 11/03/2016 at 11:00

    he will be a trap when Crouch then plays.

    Seen it before, rookies getting named for round 1 and everyone jumps on them, they play two games and sit on the bubble for the next 10 rounds waiting for another chance. The reason they got a game in the first two rounds was because of an injury or suspension etc.

    Mills is a good example. Mcveigh will be back round 2 or 3, will mills keep his place?

    @BarronVonCrow · 11/03/2016 at 13:34

    Not seeing it myself. Heard through the grapevine he was gonna be an emergency for NAB 3, but then Crouch/Atkins got him back in. If that's the case then his J/S isn't gonna be massive.

    Crouch is likely to spend week 1 in the SANFL, unless he completely tears up South Adelaide, and i'm sure David Mackay is doing a fist pump cause Atkins just blew his chance to knock him out of the team (which I wanted to happen). Crows can potentially have Crouch, Cameron and Knight coming in for Round 2, which is why i'll likely steer clear of Gore and Milera, because they'd be the obvious ones to drop out.

Sean · 11/03/2016 at 07:31

This year I'm seeing some teams with 6 premium midfielders, most with 5 with liberatore at m6. Those that have six aren't usually able to afford the top players in each line def, ruck and fwd. eg. Shaw, goldy or Deledio, Montagna. So what's better having Shaw 100k more than the next best player( scoring 10 points more) and goldy 150k more than the next best ( scoring 15 points more) with an extra rookie at m7 scoring 70 point on avg. or
Saving 250k and having an extra premium mid scoring 110 but being weaker in the top player of each line loosing 25 points a week but scoring 40 points more from and extra promo mid. Which is the better option keeping in mind if goldy and shaw remain the top playing in each line you would want to be trading them in at some stage, wouldn't it be easier to just start with them, loosing 15 points to start off the season?

    Kev · 11/03/2016 at 10:23

    In theory, yes, us SC'ers are always on the hunt for value picks. Sometimes you've just gotta pay the price for the stars and look for value elsewhere. You could get away with not starting with Shaw, one bad game could see him drop into the mid/low 500's. Might be harder to get in Goldy though

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/03/2016 at 11:52

    That's the way I am thinking of going 6 premos and libba at m7. I have gone dog dog in stead of goldy. This has allowed me to create my current midfield:

    Fyfe, danger, abs, priddus, gray, rocky and libba.

    Derek · 11/03/2016 at 11:57

    i calculate the $ value at roughly $10k = 2 SC points per week.

    to compare Shaw to Laird, you need to think is Shaw going to score more than 20 points than Laird. This is only relevant when comparing "keepers" at the start of the year.

    For any player who isn't a keeper, its all about cash generation! Don't worry about their SC score, that will look after itself if they are increasing their value.

Average Joe · 11/03/2016 at 08:08

who's going to replace all the injured tigers? Think I'll jump on menadue now

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/03/2016 at 11:55

    Been on him since nab 1 starting 22

matto32 · 11/03/2016 at 10:01

love the structure! and some interesting uniques

Could i please get an opinion on these options?

Option 1 – Menadue, Ruggles, Ablett
Option 2 – Mills, Whitecross, Hall


    Kev · 11/03/2016 at 10:18

    If Ruggles is named round one then definitely option 1. None of the 3 in option 2 are keepers imo

    Derek · 11/03/2016 at 11:19

    whatever it takes to get Gaz in your team.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/03/2016 at 11:56

    I'm going 1

Kev · 11/03/2016 at 10:24

Bit devo there is no writeup from last night on the site yet, will it be dropping later today?

    wombatsfc · 11/03/2016 at 11:52

    from fan footy
    Bachar Houli (125/-): Starting in defence
    Houli contributed with 27 disposals, 9 marks and 5 tackles.
    Jack Riewoldt (84/-): Carlile on him
    Riewoldt contributed with 17 touches, 6 marks and booted 2.1.
    Brandon Ellis (84/-): 20 touches and 7 marks plus 2 tackles… 0.1 as well

    Tyrone Vickery (80/-): Starting deep forward on Hombsch
    Vickery contributed with 11 touches, 4 marks, 5 tackles, 13 hit outs, booted 2.0 and 3 frees against.
    Andrew Moore (79/-): 17 touches with 12 by foot… also 5 tackles and 4 marks

    Alex Rance (77/-): Playing true CHB on Westhoff
    Rance contributed with 20 disposals, 7 grabs, 2 tackles and 3 frees against.
    David Astbury (74/-): Howard is his man
    Astbury contributed with 17 possessions, 8 marks and 2 tackles.
    Trent Cotchin (72/-): 17 disposals with 12 by foot… also 7 marks and 2 tackles

    Kamdyn McIntosh (71/-): 19 touches and 6 marks plus 2 tackles

    Shaun Hampson (69/-): 8 possessions and 4 tackles… umps paid him 5FF
    Hampson also had 30 hit outs.
    Nick Vlastuin (69/-): Starting on a HBF on White
    Vlastuin contributed with 17 disposals, 5 marks and 2 tackles.
    Nathan Broad (66/-): 17 disposals and 4 marks with 2 tackles

    Ben Lennon (59/-): Started forward… 12 disposals including 9 kicks… also 5 marks and 2 tackles… aided by 3FF

    Dylan Grimes (58/-): Has Schulz
    Grimes contributed with 14 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles and 3 frees against.
    Dustin Martin (53/-): 0.1 from 16 touches and 4 marks plus 2 tackles… conceded 3 FA

    Kane Lambert (50/-): 0.1 from 9 touches and 6 tackles

    Reece Conca (50/-): Hamstring tweak in Q3… 13 touches and 4 marks plus 2 tackles

    Connor Menadue (47/-): Playing small defender
    Menadue contributed with 13 touches, 4 grabs and 0.1.
    Daniel Rioli (46/-): 12 touches and 3 marks plus 3 tackles

    Brett Deledio (41/-): Started forward on Pittard… added a supergoal in Q1… spent second half on bench… 11 possessions and 2 marks plus 2 tackles. Copped a whack on the left side of his jaw in Q1.

    Jacob Townsend (38/-): Headbutted Hartlett’s elbow in Q3 trying to tackle putting him in Koosbane… stretchered off… 11 disposals and 3 tackles… aided by 3FF… not helped by 3 FA. Tagging Hartlett.

    Shaun Grigg (29/-): Knock to a thumb in Q2 and spent the second half on the bench… 7 disposals with 5 by foot… also 2 marks

    Mabior Chol (18/-): 4 kicks among 5 touches
    Chol also had 2 ruck taps.
    Shane Edwards (4/-): Copped a knock to his left shoulder in Q1 which had him go off to hospital… likely broken collarbone
    Edwards also had 0 disposals.
    Sam Gray (103/-): His spread from contests was noticeably sharp… 28 possessions and 3 marks plus 4 tackles… 1.0 as well

    Brendon Ah Chee (92/-): 24 touches and 4 marks plus 3 tackles… 1.2 as well

    Ollie Wines (90/-): Cramped up badly in Q3… 26 disposals and 3 marks with 3 tackles… 0.2 as well… umps paid him 3FF

    Brad Ebert (85/-): 20 disposals including 18 kicks… also 5 tackles and 4 marks… and booted 0.1

    Robbie Gray (77/-): Switching from midfield to forward line… 19 touches and 5 tackles plus 2.1… helped out by 3FF

    Chad Wingard (71/-): Playing small forward… 2.1 from 14 disposals and 5 tackles

    Jay Schulz (70/-): First goal… starting at FF on Grimes… 2.1 from 9 touches and 4 marks plus 6 tackles. Tweaked his right thigh late in Q4.

    Travis Boak (70/-): 18 possessions and 3 marks plus 5 tackles… 0.1 as well

    Justin Westhoff (68/-): Starting at CHF on Rance
    Westhoff contributed with 14 possessions, 5 tackles and booted 1.0.
    Matthew Broadbent (68/-): 15 touches with 12 by foot… also 5 marks… and kicked 1.0

    Jake Neade (67/-): Playing small forward… 1.0 from 13 touches and 2 marks plus 6 tackles… aided by 4FF

    Hamish Hartlett (59/-): Tagged by Townsend… 25 possessions with 20 by hand… also 3 tackles… gave away 4 FA
    Hartlett also had kicked 0.1.
    Matthew Lobbe (58/-): 6 possessions and 5 tackles… not helped by 4 FA
    Lobbe added 31 hit outs and 0.1 on the scoreboard.
    Jimmy Toumpas (55/-): Lurking around halfback without being accountable
    Toumpas contributed with 11 possessions, 4 grabs and 5 tackles.
    Jack Hombsch (45/-): Standing Vickery
    Hombsch added 10 possessions and 4 tackles.
    Jasper Pittard (44/-): Started on a HBF on Deledio
    Pittard added 14 possessions and 2 tackles.
    Jarman Impey (44/-): At halfback
    Impey added 11 touches and 4 tackles.
    Alipate Carlile (39/-): Following Riewoldt
    Carlile added 12 touches and 3 grabs.
    Karl Amon (37/-): Spent the first half on the bench… 9 touches and 2 marks plus 2 tackles

    Charlie Dixon (35/-): Spent the first half on the bench… 1.0 from 7 disposals and 3 marks

    Dougal Howard (34/-): Starting forward on Astbury
    Howard contributed with 7 disposals, 3 grabs and 3 taps.
    Jackson Trengove (31/-): 9 disposals and 2 marks with 2 tackles

    Tom Jonas (30/-): 5 possessions and 2 marks plus 3 tackles

    Matt White (12/-): Starting on a HFF on Vlaustin… 3 disposals and 1.0

      Derek · 11/03/2016 at 13:52

      great work. I think the scores are Fantasy not Supercoach.

Oliver · 11/03/2016 at 11:09

Thoughts on my current team?

DEF: Laird, KK, Bartel, Weitering, M. Brown, Hartley (Collins, Ruggles)
MID: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Wines, Libba, Crouch, Mills (Freeman, Mathieson, MacPherson)
RUCK: Gawn, Naitanui (Cox)
FWD: Dusty, Dalhaus, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca (Grimley, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

32k left in the kitty as well

    Sean's Mob · 11/03/2016 at 12:10

    I reckon that looks like a pretty solid team. Not sure Petracca will play Round 1.

Derek · 11/03/2016 at 11:10

the NAB is only good for one thing and that is to have a look at the rookies. And you need to really watch the games and see if they can play at an AFL level. Sometimes the stats don't tell the story. I saw Collins play for the doggies and knew that he was an AFL ready player. locked him in. I see Menadue play and see a kid who isn't ready yet.

Midpriced players have a great time during NAB. they are given some time in the guts and everyone thinks they are stars. Round 1, the big boys come out to play! Ablett & co say "thanks Hall & Lonergan for keeping the mid-field warm while i was resting, you can go back to the back pocket now and leave the serious business to me"

just be careful with selecting mid-priced players on NAB form alone.

    PJ8 · 11/03/2016 at 11:21

    Agree. This is the point I have been making!

    The old Mid Priced NAB trap. Gets plenty every year.

    SC_Beast · 11/03/2016 at 11:50

    Couldn't agree more

murray · 11/03/2016 at 11:22

Thoughts on A Hall vs T Greene
who will be better over 2016 and why?

LHMORWOOD · 11/03/2016 at 11:24

Any thoughts or changes that should be made Community?
It's been a tough one to decide whether to pick Shiel or Parker as M5. Which one will be more consistent throughout the year?

DEF: Shaw. Laird. Bartel. M.Brown (Ess). Hartley. K.Collins. (N.Broad & T.Ruggles)

MID: Fyfe. Dangerfield. Pendlebury. Ablett. Shiel. Liberatore. Menadue. Gresham. (Gore, Mathieson, MacPherson)

RUCK: Goldstein. Gawn (Grimley)

FWD: Martin. Barlow. Greene. De Goey. L.McCarthy. S.Kerridge. (Petracca & McDonald-Tipungwuti)

    Big G · 11/03/2016 at 14:21

    Shiel over Rocky?

murray · 11/03/2016 at 11:30

Thoughts on my team and what changes would you suggest

Laird, Docherty, McGovern, T McKenzie, MBrown(ess), Hartley (Lynch, Ruggles)

Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Libba, Wells Mills, Mathieson (Adamson, Beech, McPherson)

NicNat, Gawn (Loersch)

Martin, Zorko, Balow, Tippett, A Hall, Kerridge (HGreenwood, Tipungwuti)

I know I dont have Ablett, but I have added a D4 (Mckenzie) who could go big this year and have added a strong D5 in A Hall. So I dont think I have comprimised too much in the middle to add depth to the Def and Fwd's. What do you think?

    Josh · 11/03/2016 at 13:19

    Ablett is a keeper hall and Mckenzie probably not so much

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/03/2016 at 14:35

    A few rooks there that may b lucky to play Rd 1. Need the majority playing so u can make the $ for upgrade.

Coutta · 11/03/2016 at 11:33

Aish or Weitering as D4?

    Chill · 11/03/2016 at 14:02


Ethan017 · 11/03/2016 at 12:03

Laird, Bartel, Mcgovern, Dea, Brown (ess.), Hartley (K.Collins, Mcdonald-Tipungwuti)
Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Shiel, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Parish (Keays, Mathieson, Cuningham)
Martin, Z.Smith (Grimley)
Zorko, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Ben Kennedy, Kerridge (Petracca, Cox)

Derek · 11/03/2016 at 13:09

the NAB is only good for one thing and that is to have a look at the rookies. And you need to really watch the games and see if they can play at an AFL level. Sometimes the stats don't tell the story. I saw Collins play for the doggies and knew that he was an AFL ready player. locked him in. I see Menadue play and see a kid who isn't ready yet.

murray · 11/03/2016 at 13:51

Thoughts on R Haywood from Bris, is he worth considering as a cheap def option

Jack watts · 11/03/2016 at 14:41

Where's the fkn nad review been waiting all fkn day cnts

Brad · 11/03/2016 at 14:42

No shit take their f u v k i n g time

exatekk · 11/03/2016 at 21:43


Anthony · 12/03/2016 at 16:14

Please help
Def: Houli, Laird, KK, Johannisen, Weitering, Brown (Ess) (Hartley, Collins)
Mid: Fyfe, Danger, Sidebottom, Parker, M.Crouch, Libba, Mills, Parish (Gresham, Gore, Mathieson)
Ruck: Martin, Gawn (Cox)
Fwd: Barlow, Franklin, Greene, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Petrecca, Grimley)
88K Left

    LazDog · 13/03/2016 at 10:16

    need to re check $$ you have left. Missing around $92k on the team above.
    Your biggest issue is that your Backine and Fireard lines are locked. You have no ability to move players between lines…
    Will run out of trades quicker than most.

    LazDog · 13/03/2016 at 10:25

    Bloody spellchecker – Back line and Forward line.

Brandon Stainton · 13/03/2016 at 02:36

Shaw,Smith,T.McKenzie,Weitering.Brown,K.Collins, (Bonner,Broad)




Thoughts? any ideas please ?

LazDog · 13/03/2016 at 10:17

Bloody spellchecker – back line and forward line

Steve · 14/03/2016 at 14:53

join my league 977674 all welcome (i finished 1170 overall last year)

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