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NAB ANALYSIS: Collingwood v North

Published by Patch on

Supercoach 2016 midpriced defendersAs I was finishing my write up last game, I had the first bit of Collingwood against North Melbourne in the background.

And haunting me like a bloody ghost was one name. Snippets of play would include the big bastard getting his massive mitts on leather. “Goldstein passes to Swallow…”, …who hits up Goldstein in the centre square…”, “…Goldstein snaps his first…”

Todd. Bloody. Goldstein. To start him or not to start him, that is the $50,000 question. As I said during my team reveal, I wasn’t planning on starting him. Yet, those nightmares where he scores 200 points materialised before me watching the game unfold at Wagga Wagga.

There was a ton more fantasy relevance stuffed into this one, so let’s dig in.

Absent Best 22:

Collingwood – Adam Treloar, Steele Sidebottom, Dane Swan, Jamie Elliot, Jordan De Goey, Ben Reid, Tyson Goldsack, Brent Macaffer

North – Ben Cunnington, Brent Harvey, Jamie MacMillan.

In a nice contrast to the previous game, no-one got injured which let us revel in some really nice football at times. So let’s get into it.

COLLINGWOOD:

Geez the Pies look good this year, don’t they? We haven’t even seen them play with Treloar yet, but they’re putting together a very good side full of very good footballers. A lot of these blokes will be fantasy relevant this year.

Scott Pendlebury is always relevant, and never more so than today. He just oozes class and is a step above the rest. In his first hitout he wasn’t prolific, and spent a fair bit of time both forward and back, but still got 112 points from 18 quality touches and showed he won’t miss a beat when the real deal starts.

Young gun Taylor Adams was prolific all day, putting aside his miserable last week to rack up 26 disposals, including 10 in the first. The Bull spent a lot of time in the centre, and has tidied his DE to a respectable 70%. One particular pass hitting his captain on the tit made me sit up, as did his 126 final total. 525K. Am considering.

Levi Greenwood had a day out against his old side, with over half of his 25 disposals contested. He won’t keep it up in the real deal with Sidebum, Swan and De Goey back in the side but notable performance and had to be mentioned. Watch for CoachKings.

To be honest with you, I tried keeping an eye out for James Aish and just couldn’t find him. He kept slipping under the radar, and it was only midway through the third that I realised he’d somehow racked up a dozen touches. I slowly started to pick him out after that, but he goes about his work vey unobtrusively. 19 disposals, 12 of them kicks, 3 clearances, but only 69 points. He’s feeling pretty nope-ish at this stage.

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Brayden Maynard, Jackson Ramsey, Adam Oxley and Tom Langdon all looked good in parts today, but all played essentially the same role of halfback. Maynard and Oxley the most impressive of the two, with 18 and 17 disposals each, most kicks, but I feel they may share points too much back there. The four of them ended with 78, 35, 66 and 64 points respectively.

Of the rookies, mystery draft pick Brandon Sier didn’t come on until the second half, and was then unsighted. The stats column says he had 2 handballs, but I’m not convinced he was out there at all. Mason Cox was brought back to earth, and paled in the light of Corey Gault (who I will look at in CoachKings, was very impressive), Darcy Moore and Travis Cloke. Doubt he’ll play unless injury strikes two or more.

Matthew Goodyear is a 123k midfield rookie who showed good signs today. He had it 13 times and kicked a good goal to get his way to 69 points, but I’m not sure how much we’ll see from him this year. If he holds his spot, consider him. Tom Phillips ran through the middle and used the ball pretty well despite only 44 points. Only the 11 touches though. Look forward to seeing if he gets games.

Lock Alex Fasolo in for any Pies CoachKings games. The kid will go large often this year, but pay you back with 30s in the long form of the game. 96 points today.

NORTH MELBOURNE:

With only a few players missing, today gave us a good overview of what North will look like in the season proper. Jamie MacMillan’s absence will annoy many of those looking to pick him, but beyond the few people who want to sneak Boomer Harvey into their side, if you wanted to see it from North today you saw it.

The biggest supercoach prize from this game was Daniel Wells. He looked really, really good, community. 17 touches, 13 kicks, 3 tackles, he attended a lot of centre bounces and rotated forward. Approaching lock territory with his 98 points.

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Todd Goldstein continued his Todd Goldstein-ey ways and re-asserted that this man is indeed good at football. He had a prolific first term and cooled thereafter when Majak Daw had stints in the ruck. Hard to take too much from the heat, but he looked annoyingly good early. 84 points but that will skyrocket soon.

Sam Gibson from North continued his impressive back end to 2015 by collecting 19 possessions and enough other stats to buoy his 98 points. At 390k in the midfield you’re unlikely to pick him, but if you’ve got a draft coming up have a closer look.

Old campaigner Nick Dal Santo lead the possession count for the Roos with 20, looked good but is too old to touch in Supercoach for me – although don’t tell Lek I said that. Dropped in and out of the game and was generally useful, but not much more than that.

Luke McDonald, a smokie of mine down back, picked up 79 points and 12 touches. Need a bit more for him to select him, but is in front of Aish for me.

Ryan Clarke at 123k in the middle looked silky smooth. His ownership should rightly shoot up after this match. Won’t set the world on fire, and only had the four handballs after coming on late, but I’ll be watching eagerly next week. Only 30 points.

Rookies Mitchell Hibberd and Declan Mountford had 9 possessions each, and didn’t play their way into my side. I don’t see many rookies being blooded this year at North, and they didn’t play their way into the side. Pass.

Beyond this lot, I don’t see a lot of fantasy relevance from North. A lot of good players like Ben Brown and Andrew Swallow who are good at the whole football thing, but don’t score many points for us. I’d look at the two I mentioned, plus Lindsay Thomas and Jack Zeibell for CoachKings, but I didn’t see anyone I want to select.

What do you reckon, community? Is Wells a lock? What do you think of Adams?




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Dasha

Another excellent write up patch, How many of these expensive rookie picks do we think are too many? (170K + types)

Patch

It's a tough question Dasha. I wouldn't be looking at more than one on each line at the most, but if they're all we've got in round 1 then we have to make room for them

Patch

Full scores for those wondering (they have scaled since I shot the article off to HQ. I'm not that illiterate!)

Collingwood
Taylor Adams 126
Levi Greenwood 119
Scott Pendlebury 112
Jack Crisp 101
Jarryd Blair 97
Alex Fasolo 96
Corey Gault 89
Brayden Maynard 78
Travis Varcoe 71
James Aish 69
Travis Cloke 69
Matthew Goodyear 69
Adam Oxley 66
Tom Langdon 64
Jack Frost 54
Ben Sinclair 50
Alan Toovey 49
Mason Cox 46
Jarrod Witts 45
Tom Phillips 44
Jesse White 44
Jonathon Marsh 39
Jackson Ramsay 35
Brodie Grundy 34
Darcy Moore 27
Brayden Sier 12

North Melbourne
Nick Dal Santo 99
Sam Gibson 98
Daniel Wells 98
Drew Petrie 97
Aaron Mullett 86
Todd Goldstein 84
Lachlan Hansen 80
Luke McDonald 79
Jack Ziebell 76
Ben Brown 74
Andrew Swallow 71
Aaron Black 69
Lindsay Thomas 68
Robbie Tarrant 64
Robin Nahas 61
Farren Ray 61
Declan Mountford 52
Brad McKenzie 51
Trent Dumont 49
Mitchell Hibberd 36
Taylor Garner 35
Joel Tippett 32
Ryan Clarke 30
Ben Jacobs 28
Majak Daw 15
Mason Wood 4

SC_Beast

G'Day Patch, I have talked to you before on twitter about Adams, really like him. I'm tossing up between him and Parker at M5. Had my eye on McDonald. Need to see more. Goldstein is locked in my side – don't even care about his price tag. Wells did very well, he hasn't been on my radar but he sure is now!

Another quality article.

Patch

Quite like him, but I'd take Parker ahead of him most days of the year. DE and suspensions a big worry. Wells has certainly moved up the pecking order!

Thanks mate!

vchap

I didnt watch the game but what happened to mason wood? He was a real threat in nab 1.

Tony

I think you could add Sean Higgins and Waite as absent best 22. How'd ya miss them?

Vinny

and Spud Firrito!

4rm

Don't forget Wright, Atley and Thompson.

Patch

Damnmit I always find a way to miss best 22 players.

Scott

Wells a lock for me. I also have Goldstein and Penldes. Considering Hibberd and Phillips. No room for Adams will strongly consider getting Sidebottom in as the season progresses.

Pete

ummm north were missing Shaun Higgins, Brent Harvey, Ben Cunnington, Shaun Atley, Sam Wright, Scott Thompson, Jarrad Waite , Jamie MacMillan, Jed Anderson, Michael Firrito from the best 22 so they won't be looking anything like the team named today….

Patch

They were too. Frazzled after 5 hours of footy but thanks for the head's up they were missing!

Sam

You also missed williams and brown…. surely its nt too hard to actually learn who are each teams best 22 (or just dont mention it in the article)

Damo

Looking forward to your excellent write up of the next game Sam

Heath

Love you're work Patch, who gives a stuff if you missed a couple of players really? Doing us all a service!

Cudz

Great stuff patch, always on point mate. Never mind the flog

Hawk

Wells lock, that's all you need to know about this game.

Derek

Wells vs Simpkin

Patch

Wells wins that one easily in my book.

magpie4ver

wells

SC_Beast

Whats your team look like Derek?

tophawk

Wells 1 Simpkin 0.

For me it is now between Wells and D. Menzel for that 250Kish forward spend.

JJB

Can you play Wells and D Menzel at F3 & F4 – is that toooooo much of a risk ??

Hawk

I currently have them at F3 & F4. I do want to see Menzel play though.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Ive had wells in from the start, but changed him yesterday to Menzel.
I think Menzel has more upside. Geelong should be spending alot more time forward this year.

Webspyda

Treloar

Mark

Great stuff patch. Wells or mills
And what's your view on rance

BigHaydos

wells

Patch

Wells. Not a fan of key position defenders, but he's the pick of them. Prefer running defenders like Laird.

Mark

Also patch Pendlebury or priddis

BigHaydos

priddis

magpie4ver

PENDELS

Patch

Pendles over Priddis.

SC_Beast

Pendles can go forward and kick goals unlike Priddis

Liam

It's between De Goey and Wells for me.
Leaning towards De Goey, but not sure.

Liam

If I go Wells, i can jump Shiel to Pendles or Priddis

@SC_Centre

Go with Wells

magpie4ver

and Pendels

DuckingTigers

Out of those two De Goey's a safer bet. He's young and developing and gives effort. Well's is aging and hasn't ever lived up to his potential, albeit through injury ravaged seasons. If you can decide which choice would annoy you most if it failed, then take the other.

Average Joe

I reckon I'll pass on pendles in my starting team. Want to see him when the whole midfield is there, as I feel it probably affect his role in the team

Patch

I'm passing on him too, Joe. Will need to come in at some stage but won't start him I don't think.

Benjamima Puddleduck

Totally agree, its Pendles alright. I think the time has come alot of other guys are going to step up and take his points.
Pendles Ave this year 100-105

Vinnymac

Pendles has always scored well even when the pies had their gun midfield (think 2010). I think he'll average 120.

The young guns will step up, but this is the captain we're talking about. The man who will step up when the game is on the line and lead by example! Never doubt the dependency that is dependlebury!

Dean

Pendles always scored bigger while Swan was in the midfield with him, Swan's role changed last season where he spent a fair bit of time at half forward, so on that basis one would think once Tralore is playing, Pendles should sustain his usual 120+ Average.

Average Joe

yeh just more worried about him playing more off half back or forward because he is one of the most capable of playing those positions out of the pies midfield group

mark

aaron hall and Goldstein or zorko and nic nat

Patch

Don't see Hall keeping it up all year, so the latter to save trades.

tophawk

Hall could still be very relevant early in the season though. No O'Meara and no Swallow to start the season.

mark

yeah I was thinking of upgrading him later because I feel like I need goldy

magpie4ver

Hall will be a cash cow with all the the missing suns IMO. He's my F3.

Patch

He'll be very relevant early, but would be bench cover at best by the end of the year.

james

which team is better and why community

boyd, laird, macmillan, lonegan, hartley, collins (brown, lee)
dangerfield, ablett, priddis, rockliff, duncan, libba, parish, matheson (clarke, adamson, macpherson)
nic nat, gawn
zorko, barlow, greene, hall, milera, kerridge (petracca, tipungwuti)

or

lairrd, macmillan, mcgovern, harwood, hartley, collins (hibbered, tipungwuti)
fyfe, dangerfield, pendles, ablett, priddis, rockliff, libba, clarke (matheson,adamson, macpherson)
jacobs, gawn
barlow, green, hall, milera, kerridge, brown (ess) (petracca, mccarthy

Kev

Prefer the mids in team 2.

BigHaydos

not relevant to this game but where will shannon hurn play this year? obviously down back but can he return to his fantasy relevant scoring?

Patch

I reckon he might be able to, Haydos. Ran off the flank on Thursday and I'm considering him strongly.

BigHaydos

Yes Patch I noticed that too, with these new eagle rookie defenders, maybe he will get back on that running flanker and look to have more of an attack generating role. He is very high on my watch list as a great pod potentially.

Vinny

Huge North Melbourne supporter here! For me, Daniel Wells has to be a lock, he is a player that can be seen as a 'new recruit' given his absence from the game. For North to go one step further this year and make and hopefully win the premiership, they'll need Wells fit and firing all season, and for this reason, he is the most important player at the club.
Hey, but that's my opinion, would love to know if others are going with Wells? Maybe Menzel, De Goey?

HOLLA

Hey vinny. Im going both wells and menzel. Im i pies fan and cant see de goey out performing those guys. Next year for de goey i reckon.

Kev

Nine games in 2 years no concern Vinny? Foot, ankle, calf, shin, achilles injuries. Dangerously close to fool's gold territory imo. With the vest scrapped I reckon North will rest him

MOC

Opinions are much appreciated

shaw, laird, rich, johanissen, brown, broad (hartley, tipungwuti)
pendles, god, war, rockliff, parker, libba, parish, gresham (keays, mathieson, phillips)
martin, gawn (cox)
martin, barlow, green, wells, kerridge, menadue, (petracca, grimley)

MOC

*ward

Reigning SC champ

So obvious that you're a lions fan

HOLLA

War?

MOC

*ward

HOLLA

I think everyone needs to start with dangerfield. Could you afford him and or part with ward?

MOC

I would have to cull someone else as well. Any suggestions?

Derek

Dangerfield is fully priced. Could get him cheaper

pup

got 595k to spend on a mid who do i get? i already have fyfe danger ablett priddis rockliff libba

MOC

Gray, ward, parker?

HOLLA

Steven? Nobody has steven.

Patch

Ward or Shiel for mine, pup.

Derek

JPK will be top 8

Dean

If you have Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Priddis & Rocky who are arguably the top echelon of midfielders then its obvious your team is quite week in defence or Forward or both, I would utilise that 595k and attempt to improve your forward line first of all and maybe even your defence also.

Point being having 5 premium midfielder's to start with is perfect, once you add that extra premium in your mid, the rest of your side becomes very week, from everything I have tried.

That being said, you could fluke it with your mid priced players in Defence & forward, however I find it almost impossible to find a couple of great priced midfields, they always seem to score well below what they should and hemorage cash. Although LIBBA is a must mid priced player we will all have and deservedly so.

Either way good luck either way your go mate.

HOLLA

Depends how much cash you need. Menadue down to kerridge?Joha down to aish??

Adam

Anybody know if or when Treloar will play? I swear if collingwood had an amazing ruck they'd dominate.

Midfield of Pendlebury,Sidebottom, Swan, Adams, Treloar , OXley, Maynard potentially macaffer and maybe De Goey.
Does anyone see a way Aish will fit in ?

HOLLA

Add Crisp blair greenwood broomhead to that list…maynard and Oxley are defenders btw. Aish will fit in. Moved heaven and earth to get him.

Paul

Oxley plays back, Swan plays forward. He'll get a game on the wing.

Paul

He is playing a half in the VFL praccy matches this weekend.

Midfield isn't everything. Carlton were ranked 2nd for centre clearances last year. The Pies still have an underwhelming forward line and their defence have had real issues turning R50's into I50's.

onbeebe

Pies forward line will be good. Fasolo seems to have turned the corner, cloke up the ground, elliot when he's back, Moore and now Gault is showing a bit. Throw in Swan and it seems alright to me.

Adam

I know but the Midfield isn't everything but I meant if they had a gun in the ruck who wins hit outs they would wreck face in there and have potentially the strongest mid in the game .For example, look at Fremantle, GWS or West Coast.

Half the reason players like Neale and Shiel can get so much possession is because they are spoon fed the ball by sandilands and mummy.

And i agree, clearances are the most important aspect of the midfield but Carlton is not the no.1 in the league.

DuckingTigers

Aish is a defender for SuperCoach purposes. He may play forward or back, off the bench or be part of the midfield rotations. He won't have as much pressure to be a midfield linchpin as he did at the Bears but judge his worth on a defender's output.

Breen

Thoughts on my team? Cheers
Def- R. Laird, S.Docherty, J. Johannesien, T. Sherriden, M. Brown, M hartley ( D, Byrne- jones. K Collins)
Mid- N.Fyfe,Danger, G.Ablett, T.Rockliff,M.Duncan,C.Mills,Jjanesen (cunningham, Matheson, R clarke)
Rucks- Blicavs, Nic nat ( M cox)
forward- D. Martin, C. Wingard, M barlow, J. Degoey, C.Menadue, L. mccarthy ( S. Kerridge, Petreeca)

Kev

Upgrade Blitz if you can, Smith is taking his ruck minutes. Your M8 is missing

Leeds17

Yeah only take Blicavs if you think he can average what you want from him as a pure mid with a few 3rd man ups.

votes

which 2 ruckman should I get out of nic nac, Blicavs, Jacobs, stefen martin and Gawn??

Also Tom Sherriden or Jacob Weitering?

Danners

Sheridan, will average a lot more and he is more of a chance of being a keeper

SC_Beast

Stefan Martin and Gawn

tttt

z.merret or t.greene or a.hall ?

and

parker,shiel,adams or ward?

SC_Beast

Merret or Hall then Parker, Shiel or Ward. Can't go wrong with either of those selections

tttt

thanks!
and sorry i meant parker or shiel or ward haha

SC_Beast

Well you can't go wrong with either of the 3. Maybe Ward as he is a real POD

Que

THOUGHTS?

Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Weitering, Brown, Hartely (collins, tippa)

Fyfe, Danger, GAZ, Gray, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Petracca (mathieson, keays,gore)

Goldy, Currie (cox)

Dusty, Wingard, Barlock, Menadue, Kerridge, Kommer (grimley, gallucci)

What do we think??

about 5k left

Vinny

Currie definitely worries me. I think you know the risk, likw most people, I just don't think he will get a regular senior gig.
Also just make sure, Crouch is fit for round 1, because i'm pretty sure he has pulled up sore from an intraclub a few weeks back.
Other than that, team is very solid!

tophawk

Backline is very solid.
Midfield is excellent. Monitor fitness of crouch.
Ruck is not balanced. Currie at R2 is a massive risk. Re evaluate.
Forward line is mixed. Premos good. Bench is of concern. Grimley and Gallucci both unlikely starters rd 1. Monitor.

Other than that, overall team has serious potential.

Cheers

Dean

Currie as your R2 is suicide. Sorry don't like it.

Danners

Great work Patch! At the moment Wells is not in my side and if I want him in my structure will go out the window which I don't feel like doing. He probably will get it done with scoring, but how many games will he play? Only played 9 games the last two seasons and is 31 years old

Kev

Agree Danners, unless you see him as a season long keeper I don't see the point in having Wells. The community loves referring to the "tooth length" of blokes. Lots of forward line rookies to choose from

Azza

Priddis or Gray

Kev

Priddis

Benjamima Puddleduck

Gray

SC_Beast

Gray, Priddis cannot go forward and kick goals as easily as Gray can and with less interchanged , gun mids will need to spend more time forward.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Had wells from the get go just have to get through next game and he is locked. Too much class and poise to pass up for $240k. Also have goldy. I assume the 84 is not much to worry about as looks like he eased right off given the heat. Surprisingly just looked at my team and have no pies. Been big on adams and duncan for that matter but cant fit them in. Also have toyed putting de goey in but again just no room. Been fiddling with all combinations in defence but after shaws performance last night feel he has gotta b included. Will b at the expense of one the higher priced rooks probably mills but hey cant afford them all.

Kall

Menadue or l.mccarthy as F7

@emhoy

I am trying to decide between the two as well I think it will come down to Job security as I see both scoring similiar.

Stirlsy

Patch, there was nothing wrong with Adams game against cats, it's pretty hard to get the ball when your sitting on the bench, only played 36% on the ground

james

please join 935860

Leeds17

Always thought Fasolo was just a FWD pocket but seems to have learnt to get stuck in now, has some attributes in his game that are very SC friendly,

'Don't Blush Babbie'

Not for me Leeds @ 408K , shopping elsewhere mate,cheers

Leeds17

Yeah me either just wouldn't surprise me if he starts to become more relevant later in the season and in coming seasons.

Leeds17

Liking the 2premo up forward structure that some are running with, thoughts on this:

Shaw Laird Bartel Hartley
Z Williams M Brown Broad Mcdonald-Tip

Fyfe Dangerfield Polkinghorn
Ablett Rockliff Duncan Mathieson
Libba Mills Gore Mcpherson

Goldy Gawn Wyatt

Martin Barlow Wells Mcarthy
Kennedy Menadue Kerridge Grimley

Mills becomes Crouch if named R1, toss up between Z Williams/T Sheridan for D4 & Rookies to be confirmed
still a bit of cash to tweak with.

Kev

Imo you need a stronger midfield if you're running with that structure

Leeds17

Makes sense, but the only way to get another premium in is to drop Shaw…

BKW

Nah, I think I'd downgrade D4 to another rookie – maybe the first pick from the blues?? 😉

Then upgrade Duncan to a top liner like Priddis, Pendles, Gray etc

Leeds17

Hmmm yep I can see where you are coming from but I think by seasons end people will be calling Duncan a "top liner", I think Z Williams & have Tom Sheridan ( and lesser extent Lonergan) have genuine chance to be top 10 Defs this season so reluctant to take the cash from there, but I do agree need to be another midfielder for it to be worth the risk to be so light on up forward.

Brook

Hi all … here is my team at present (rookies subject to change):

DEF: Shaw, Laird, JJ, LMcDonald, Byrne-Jones, Hartley (Broad, MBrown)
MID: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Gresham, Kerridge (Gore, Mathieson, Adamson)
RUC: Goldy, NicNat (Cox)
FWD: Zorko, Wingard, Barlow, Wells, McCarthy, Petracca (Phillips, McD-Tip)

I have made a few compromises to maintain my structures, but I reckon I have:
* 10 keepers (2-4-2-2)
* 4 likely keepers (1-2-0-1) – will be happy with 2 out of 4
* 2 stepping stones (1-0-0-1)
* 14 cash cows (4-5-1-4)

What do you think about my team and structures?

SC_Beast

Looks good.

Derek

I like the structure a lot.

The players you are starting with are very good.

Not sure who JJ is, I assume KK.

I think Zorko is overpriced and would look at Dusty.

Brook

JJ is Johanisen … not sold on him but price is right for this team … i think i can fit martin in and keep structure. just need to use gawn and wines instead of nicnat and parker or trim a bit more fat off the rookies

BigHaydos

Nice Brook! I really like the breakdown and this looks like a great team

@GAVEDAY

Han fasolo- look mate, I've watched you for a few seasons now, you're NOT Peter Diacos yet son, lose the attitude and put in the hard yards. You could be good.

You could be very very good.

But you're not.

Yet.

magpie4ver

Who is Han fasolo?

Phil

It's a hybrid between Han Solo and Alex Fasolo. He plays for Collingwood and pilots the Millenium Falcon in his free time

Paul

Def: Heater, T McDonald, Birchall, Yeo, Malceski, Hipwood (Byrne, M Brown)
Mid: Fyfe, Ablett, Rockliff, Duncan, Libba, Mills, Parish, Hopper (Gresham, Gore, Keays)
Ruck: Gawn, Kreuzer (S Michael)
For: Dusty, Greene, Stringer, Wells, Anderson, Kerridge (Petracca, S Yarran)

The whole two of Greene/Stringer/Z Merrett/Buddy/Stevey J/Billings is the main thing I'm not sure of atm. Also my blatant Carlton bias in picking Matty Kreuzer haha. Might end up biting the bullet and picking Sinclair for some extra cash, but I name my team after Kreuzer most years…..WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Kev

You've gone too deep in defence which is making your other lines look weak. Midfield especially

SC_Beast

Get rid of Yeo, Malceski, Hipwood for cheaper rookies then upgrade your midfield. You have too many expensive mid rookies in Mills, Parish, Hopper, choose one then downgrade to cheaper rookies i.e mathieson.

@grayson_lowee

Hey community, i know this isnt directly related to the article but i could really use some opinions/and or help, anyway this is my team right now:

Def:
R.Laird, K.Kolidjashnij, S.Docherty/J.Bartel (This is where i need help the most), J.Weitering, M.Brown (Ess), R.Bonner. (S.Collins, K.Collins)

Mid:
P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, G.Ablett, T.Rockliff, O.Wines, T.Liberatore, D.Parish, S.Kerridge. (N.Freeman, B.Keays, R.Mathieson)

Ruck:
N.Naitanui, M.Gawn. (M.Cox)

Fwd:
H.Bennell, M.Barlow, Z.Merret, T.Greene, D.Wells, C.Petracca. (S.Grimley, M.Adams)

only 3K left in the bank, I feel 100% happy about all my premiums apart from S.Docherty and N.Naitanui. I'm not sure who i should choose out of Docherty/Bartel/Rich. Any thoughts/suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thankyou.

Kev

Few of your rookie selections are off, keep an eye on this site for some better options.

I don't buy into Bartel being rested. I prefer him over Doch as he's in a winning side.

Bennell at F1 is a risk. I'm not sure if he's stepped up to full training but his workload has been managed this preseason

Kegzlegs

Winning side doesn't always help with defenders, McDonald scored significantly less when the demons won games.

@grayson_lowee

What rookies would you suggest i get rid of? And i always thought that if a defender was in a losing side he'd have a higher chance of scoring more points because the ball would be in their defensive half more often.

SC_Beast

Any reason no Dusty?

@grayson_lowee

He's let me down alot and hes extremely inconsistent, also couldnt really fit him in. id rather take a punt with bennell tbh.

@grayson_lowee

Also, i've seen you around here alot and i love your contribution to the community, any chance you could tell me what your side is looking like right now?

SC_Beast

Sure! Subject to change of course

Shaw, Laird, McGovern, Weitering, Byrne-Jones, Tucker, Broad, Collins
Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Mills, Gresham, Petracca, Mathieson, MacPherson
Goldstein, Gawn, Cox
Martin, Zorko, Barlow, Menadue, Kerridge, Brown, Grimley, Adams

Gone for a couple of left field picks in McGovern and Zorko. After watching McGovern play a few nights ago, he looked good. Zorko I feel will explode this year. I have been thinking about downgrading Zorko to Hall and when Hall hits his peak, trade him (Bruyn Maneuver) as I don't think he will be a keeper when Swallow, JOM, Prestia are all back fit and firing.

@grayson_lowee

Yeah, i really like mcgovern actually, i've decided to replace docherty with him. and Zorko i also really like, im just not sure if i can fit him in or not. Really nice team man, im just not sure if goldstein is worth it, like you could possibly downgrade him to S.Martin or N.Naitanui and then upgrade one of your rookies to D.Wells, just my opinion though. Also any reasons why you've decided to pick C.Mills over D.Parish?

SC_Beast

Have seen Mills play 2 games whereas Parish only the one. Thats the only real reason. Also Mills being in a better team more points for that team.

@grayson_lowee

Yeah but with parish being in essendon hes a guaranteed starter, mills will be tough for him to break into the sydney midfield

SC_Beast

I think he already has broken in. Looked good off the half back.

BigHaydos

love the zorko comment mate, He is in for a huge year! My best mate played for qld through his junior years when zorko was captain for qld. Regularly talks to him and zorko is set for a ripper year apparently.

My team

Shaw, Laird, Rich, Weitering Byrne-Jones, Tucker, Collins, Hartley
Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, JPK, Rockliff, MIlls, Parish, Gresham, Mathieson, Keays, Gore
Goldy, Gawn, MIchael
Martin, Zorko, Wingard, Wells, Kerridge, Brown, Grimley, Petracca

12 keepers (2,5,2,3)
2 possible keepers(1-0-0-1)
plenty of cash cows too

Looks like the lions game will be canceled. Really wanted to see RIch

Steven

Which of these 2 options do you think will score more points?

Option 1: Hurn, Lobbe and M Robinson

Option 2: Simpson, Gawn or Naitanui and D Menzel

Kev

2

Adam

Are we going to see libba and crouch before round 1 ? Anyone

BKW

Yeah Libber is playing today I believe

pa l

and playing well

@emhoy

Please join plenty of spots left 114966

Tony

What's your thoughts on Nakia Cockatoo guys???

@emhoy

Ben Kennedy at similar price is better pick I think Nakia being a young player will be very up and down.

vchap

Job sercurity is good. I suspect he will average around 60.

@emhoy

Also what percentage of ownership is considered a POD or unique choice. I am a little worried my team is starting to look like everyone else.

Phil

Best thing to do if you want a POD is pick a player who everyone had Pre-NAB that has had a bad NAB so everyone has jumped off, making him a POD. Yeo hasn't suddenly forgotten how to play football overnight, KK likewise.

SCaddict

Yes I was hoping Wellsy would put in a no show yesterday.

Now every bastard who previously had half a doubt now has him locked away. 🙁

Derek

I was a doubter, had Simpkin. I was looking for a norf forward cause of their good draw

SCaddict

Yes you're one of those bastards Derek …. no offence. 🙂

Derek

Do worry about being same as everyone else, that is a good thing, we are all experts here and only have good teams

Don't worry about POD's. It is the shark move that will set you apart, this may not come until once the season starts

BKW

Good question – 10% or less I'd say, but you get into the 5% or less territory and that's even better if your looking for a positive point of difference – just gotta pick the right players 😉

mmmm

Hi community, would love some feedback on my team. Suggestions are welcome, and I have kept 204k free in the bank incase any changes are needed. Cheers

D: McGovern, Johanissen, Sheridan, Weitering, Hartley, Brown(ess) (Collins, Collins)
M: Ablett, Priddis, Sloane, Rockliff, Parker, Duncan, Libba, Mills (Gore, Gresham, Mathieson)
R: NicNat, Gawn (Cox)
F: Dusty, Barlow, Greene, Wells, BKennedy, Kerridge (Petracca, Grimely)

Kev

Turn two of Sloane/Parker/Duncan into rolled gold premiums

'Don't Blush Babbie'

upgrade Sheridan to maybe Laird

Loyal RoughNuts

Rockliff vs Parker ?

What are peoples thoughts in respect to these 2. I have rocky at the moment but I'm sure I read somewhere leppa was looking at playing him more forward this yr due to the additions of bell and bastinac are people worried?

'Don't Blush Babbie'

I just reckon he'll be rested in the FWD line due to the decreased interchange,JPK the same ,but we will see what happens today if he plays.

SC_Beast

Take both

SCaddict

Rocky really is a 'must have' given his ginormous scoring ceiling almost irregardless where he plays on the ground.

I have both dudes locked in my team but if you can only squeeze in one it has to be Rocky without question.

'Don't Blush Babbie'

Thoughts on Jack Riewoldt as a POD ?

SC_Beast

Prefer Nick

Amber

Highest average is around 90, relies on goals too much too score in my opinion..

SCaddict

JACK = KPP = NO WAY

If he drops $100K off a few quiet games then I'd look at him but I wouldn't start with him.

DuckingTigers

If by "POD" you mean Princess On Despondency I'd say okay. If you mean it in the SuperCoach sense then I'm sure everyone that answers this post will be in agreement.

Randy

Shiel or Parker?

Aaron

Personally I would go Parker

Amber

Need help with three options, it's killing me D:
1- Kolodjashnij, Jacobs, Wells, Kommer
2- Weitering, Gawn, Wingard, Kommer
3- Weitering, Gawn, Billlings, Milera

Kegzlegs

2. Because I like weitering and gawn, for me Wingard could be Barlow, Martin or Dalhouse and Kommer could be Petracca or Kerridge or Mitch Brown.

Not a big fan of Milera and Billings is an interesting pick

Greg

I agree

Amber

I already have all those rookies, Martin and Barlow, wingard would be F3 and used up all my cash with Kommer F6. So I'm stretching a bit

tophawk

That is a tough call!
Probably best to beak it down a bit. Both Kommer and Wells both had good games yesterday. I would be quite happy to have Kommer on my forward bench after yesterday. Wells is great value at 243K so he could be a really good option for an F4 spot.
Gawn ran riot a few weeks ago when he played in nab round 1. He plays again today. See how he goes today. If he doesnt break a leg and puts in a half decent showing then I would be confident in locking him in at either R1 or R2. Kolo had a pretty poor first up showing in Nab Rd1. Did not play Rd2. I would wait and see what he does in Rd3. Enough doubt for me at this stage to put him straight into my backline. Same with Jacobs, OK in first game, but did not play Rd2. Watch in Rd3 before considering. Milera to me is a very promising prospect. Played rd1 and r2 and was very impressive in both games. Definately a real option for F5 or F6 spot.
Billings was rery rusty in Rd1. He plays again today against the Lions. Watch him like a hawk to see how he goes. We havent seen Wingard yet and there is talk that he is suffering with an injury niggle. Lets see if he plays Rd3. Lastly, Weitering is exciting. Number 1 draft pick and had an excellent debut in Rd1. Watch in remaining games, but is one to seriously consider for a D4 or D5 spot.

If I had to choose an option right now I would go option 2. Hope it helps!
Cheers

Amber

I'll definitely watch closely in the nab games. Having weitering in my team is at D4 so my backline looks a bit weak..

Mmm suppose it's a matter of having guns or an even spread

DuckingTigers

, any , team , without, Kommer, would, be, recomended,,,,,,,,,,

Steven

4- Yeo, Gawn, Wells, Milera

SC_Beast

Please don't pick Yeo ^

Aaron

Toby Greene or Chad Wingard?

SC_Beast

Wingard easily

tophawk

Wingard

Amber

depends what you do with the extra 100k

SCaddict

Hard to go past Tobias for the money.

Along with Barlow and Wells there's no way I can see starting without both in my forward line as those names have remained a constant in Addicts all preseason. I'll be waiting and seeing on The Chad.

The Beard

Hey lads,

Would love some input and opinions on latest squad that I'm currently running with.

Shaw, Laird, Bartel, McDonald, Brown, Hartley, Broad, Collins

Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rocky, M Crouch, Liba, Mills, Parish, Gresham, Keays, Mathieson

Goldy, Nic Nat, Cox

Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Kerrige, Petracca, Grimley, AMT

I am leaning towards dropping a rookie defender likely Broad and then dumping either Parish or Gresham for a cheaper rookie and upgrading Broad to Dea.

Thoughts?

SC_Beast

Downgrade Mills and Parish and upgrade Crouch. You seem to be 1 premo too short in the middle