NAB ANALYSIS: West Coast v Gold Coast Suns

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What started as a thoroughly dull game of football ended as a reasonably exciting finish between the Eagles and the Suns in Joondalup (which is up there with Woolloomooloo in the echelons of Great Australian Names for Places).

The Suns were in front all night despite leaving a full half of their best 22 on the beach and the Eagles missing a small handful of stars. It was only when Jeremy McGovern made the most of his second opportunity to kick a last minute match-winner with 4 seconds on the clock did the Eagles get ahead.

But enough about the football, you’ll get that in the papers and on the news interwebs. We don’t care about the game. We care about the points. Let’s get into the analysis.

Absent Best 22

West Coast – Shuey, Wellingham, Masten (who is out for a few months), Sheed.

Gold Coast – oh boy, here we go… Ablett, Swallow (LTI), Prestia, O’Maera, Malceski, Kolodjashnij, Rosa, Nicholls, Rischitelli, May, Lynch and Thompson all not playing.


Jesse Lonergan hurt his ankle midway through the third after racking up 11 touches through the midfield.

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After a solid quarter and a half of receiving and giving handballs, Lewis Jetta also got a knock to the ankle and went and had a shower.

Mitch Brown (not the Essendon one) had one touch to half time in his first game back before hurting his hand and coming off both the field and our Supercoach watch lists.

A few other players got knocks, but ended up back on the field, including Jeremy McGovern, who kept sticking his arm underneath packs, which I still maintain is a bad idea for someone with really terrible shoulders. Or a bad idea in general, to be honest.

Gold Coast

I was really impressed with the Suns. For a side with 900-odd games experience, and 100 of those games from Harbrow, they stood up and applied a lot of pressure to an experienced West Coast line up. The pressure acts stood out, from tackling to smothering to chasing, and generally looked much more composed than expected.

Individually, Lekdog’s man Aaron Hall had a staggering FIFTEEN tackles, attended the most centre bounces of the match and had got the ball nineteen times. Only 9 of those possessions went where he wanted them to go, mind you, but with O’Maera and Swallow out and Prestia in doubt, Aaron Hall could be quite the pick for early on in the season.

Young gun Trent McKenzie stood up in a backline missing, well, everyone, grabbing 25 possessions, 21 by foot. I reckon those kicks would have travelled an average of 40 metres, too, including one that flew nearly 80 metres with the wind from full back. At 306K in Supercoach you get tempted when a bloke scores 171 (yep, one hundred and seventy-one points), but wait until he plays with Kolodjashnij and Malceski before you even think about him in Supercoach. In Coach Kings, however…

Jesse Lonergan, as I mentioned, was iced for a fair portion of the second half, and had it 11 times off the back flank before he went off. I wasn’t thrilled with what I saw, but he could be a good Coach Kings pick early in the season.

Sam Day looks like a bloody good Coach Kings pick, as he flies, takes intercept marks, spoils, tackles – the lot. I wouldn’t touch him in long form though. Took an absolute screamer.

On the rookie front, I was really impressed with Peter Wright, who looks to have taken Charlie Dixon’s spot as his own. “2 Metre Peter” kicked 2.2, had 5 strong marks and 7 disposals. Probably not consistent enough for 187K forward, but my he looked good. Dan MacPherson might as well have not played, as I saw his surfer boy hair once, and that was when he had a mark taken over him by Brad Sheppard late in the last. Finally, Callum Ah Chee had flashes of brilliance, but very little else. Avoid.

Jack Martin attacked the ball well and looked very good, but didn’t get enough of it to score for us. He also played very deep forward.

Last year’s rookie saviours, Touk Miller and Adam Saad, both played well in parts – Saad in particular had one gorgeous stretch of play where he took on about 6 Eagles running through the square – but had 20 and 10 disposals respectively. Neither are fantasy relevant now they are mid-priced players.

Annoying we still haven’t had a look at Tom Nicholls in the ruck, as Daniel Currie still sort of flails about against much more experienced ruckmen. He had 21 hit outs, and his 7 tackles were encouraging, and the 95 supercoach points surprising, but I doubt he’ll have that much of an impact as a second ruckman. If Nicholls goes down or plays forward, consider, but until then no.

Hallahan, Shaw and Lemmens all ran around in the middle and got some 18-odd disposals, but they won’t be there when the real stuff starts and are all really annoying prices. Let’s move on.

West Coast

The Eagles spent a lot of time doing not much. They didn’t really attack it with intensity, preferring to wait to collect the ball on the half back line, which is where all my attention was this game.

Shannon Hurn revelled in playing a rebounding defender role, and not a key position as he did for most of last year. He looked composed and in control off the half back flank. While he only had 16 disposals, 12 of them were kicks, and that’s how he scores his points. I’m eagerly awaiting NAB4 against Essendon.

After being maligned for a lot of last week, Elliot Yeo had more of an impact in this game, with 15 touches.


However, I spotted Yeo deep forward on several occasions, and didn’t see too much work done out of the middle by him. He ended with 54 points, and lost his spot on my watchlist.

Like his captain, swingman Jeremy McGovern also enjoyed running through the middle, racking up intercept marks, 16 touches and 2 goals, including the match winner. I don’t know how much this winning goal added to his 111 points, though, Also, with Scott Lycett in the side, we saw none of the rucking he was touted for in February. Both he and Hurn are being very heavily considered. McGovern also picked up 160 CoachKings points.

The forgotten member of the West Coast half back line, Brad Sheppard, impressed me a lot tonight. 20 disposals at 76% spoke volumes. He’s another one of these 400K tempting bastards in the defence line, and has replaced Yeo on my scouting list.

Nic Naitanui is an absolute jet. 10 disposals, 28 hitouts and 3,462 moments where you just have to reassess how a human can be this athletic and freaky and still somehow be human. He took strong contested marks, pouched hitouts to advantage, and had 7 monstrous tackles. 103 points. Need another look but without Scott Lycett (who spent a long while in the ruck for 16 hitouts) he is hard to resist.

Lock Marc LeCras in for pretty much every West Coast clash that pops up in CoachKings. The little master was pulling the ball from everywhere, picking up 25 possies and 2.3 that would have been 5 straight had the gale not been a-thundering like it was. 142 Supercoach.

Matt Priddis had the ball 26 times and used it reasonably well. 18 of his 24 were handballs, but 18 possessions were contested, and he had 8 tackles, which resulted with just a cool 155 Supercoach points. You know what you get with Priddis.  Similarly, Andrew Gaff had it 30 times for 10 contested, and looked reasonably good despite never going 100%.

Jack Darling and Josh Kennedy were kept busy by the wind. Look at them in Coach Kings, probably not in Supercoach.

Liam Duggan at 220K in the forward line had moments where he looked composed, and then moments where he didn’t. I think I’d steer clear and go with a Wells or a Menzel, but he is still an option. 9 disposals, 4 tackles.

Righteo, I’m already yonks behind the time Lekdog takes to publish his reports, but he’s a freak round 1 draft pick. Hopefully I’ve done it justice. Who caught your eye, community?


Patch · 03/03/2016 at 22:38

So, scores were finalised just as I flicked the report off to Jock HQ. Final Supercoach scores are as follows. Higgo has been putting Coach Kings scores up on Twitter as well, so keep your eyes peeled there if you can!

Trent McKenzie 169
Aaron Hall 123
Touk Miller 92
Daniel Currie 91
Mitch Hallahan 90
Alex Sexton 84
Matt Shaw 75
Sean Lemmens 69
Ryan Davis 65
Tom Keough 65
Jesse Lonergan 64
Jarrod Harbrow 61
Adam Saad 58
Sam Day 57
Peter Wright 54
Keegan Brooksby 51
Jack Leslie 50
Jack Martin 49
Luke Russell 44
Henry Schade 41
Brandon Matera 33
Clay Cameron 30
Callum Ah Chee 28
Jarrod Garlett 28
Brayden Fiorini 14
Darcy MacPherson 14

Matt Priddis 158
Mark LeCras 135
Jeremy McGovern 120
Brad Sheppard 113
Andrew Gaff 110
Shannon Hurn 101
Nic Naitanui 101
Sam Butler 99
Jackson Nelson 82
Xavier Ellis 71
Will Schofield 69
Jack Darling 63
Jamie Bennell 62
Elliot Yeo 58
Scott Lycett 58
Jamie Cripps 53
Eric MacKenzie 51
Liam Duggan 42
Fraser McInnes 32
Malcolm Karpany 29
Josh Hill 29
Patrick McGinnity 26
Josh J. Kennedy 22
Lewis Jetta 21
Mitchell Brown -2

    Peter Higginbotham · 03/03/2016 at 23:01

    CoachKings scores;

    DEF | Jeremy McGovernWCE160
    DEF | Trent McKenzieGCS157
    FWD | Mark LeCrasWCE113
    MID | Matt PriddisWCE110
    DEF | Brad SheppardWCE97
    MID | Andrew GaffWCE90
    DEF | Sam ButlerWCE87
    DEF | Jackson NelsonWCE82
    RUC | Nic NaitanuiWCE74
    MID | Aaron HallGCS72
    DEF | Shannon HurnWCE72
    RUC | Daniel CurrieGCS71
    FWD | Peter WrightGCS66
    MID | Mitch HallahanGCS65
    MID | Ryan DavisGCS65
    DEF | Eric MacKenzieWCE64
    MID | Touk MillerGCS64
    DEF | Xavier EllisWCE64
    DEF | Jack LeslieGCS57
    DEF | Sam DayGCS56
    MID | Tom KeoughGCS56
    MID | Jesse LonerganGCS54
    DEF | Will SchofieldWCE54
    RUC | Keegan BrooksbyGCS52
    DEF | Adam SaadGCS51
    FWD | Jack DarlingWCE50
    DEF | Sean LemmensGCS50
    DEF | Jamie BennellWCE46
    MID | Matt ShawGCS44
    MID | Alex SextonGCS42
    DEF | Henry SchadeGCS41
    MID | Elliot YeoWCE40
    FWD | Jack MartinGCS34
    MID | Jarrod HarbrowGCS33
    DEF | Clay CameronGCS32
    RUC | Scott LycettWCE32
    FWD | Fraser McInnesWCE31
    FWD | Jamie CrippsWCE31
    FWD | Brandon MateraGCS24
    MID | Luke RussellGCS24
    FWD | Josh HillWCE23
    FWD | Callum Ah CheeGCS22
    FWD | Jarrod GarlettGCS21
    MID | Liam DugganWCE21
    MID | Lewis JettaWCE20
    FWD | Patrick McGinnityWCE15
    FWD | Josh J. KennedyWCE13
    MID | Malcolm KarpanyWCE13
    MID | Darcy MacPhersonGCS10
    MID | Brayden FioriniGCS3
    RUC | Jonathan GilesWCE0
    MID | Joshua SchoenfeldGCS0
    MID | Luke PartingtonWCE0
    MID | Mackenzie WillisGCS0
    DEF | Seb TapeGCS0
    DEF | Tom BarrassWCE0
    MID | Tom ColeWCE0
    DEF | Mitchell BrownWCE-3

    Kind regards,
    Peter J Higginbotham

      Patch · 03/03/2016 at 23:10

      Higgo you jet. Love it mate.

Tom · 03/03/2016 at 22:43

now Currie is looking like a good option…

Really trying to convince myself not to roll with grimley, cox and Currie with one of them at R2

    Steve · 03/03/2016 at 23:01

    I'm considering the same thing with Tippet in the forward line as back up.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 23:08

    To quote everyone's favourite space octopus, IT'S A TRAP!

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/03/2016 at 06:58

    Neither of those 3 you mentioned are going to be No 1 rucks at their clubs.

      Cozza · 04/03/2016 at 10:00

      They don't need to be No1 ruck if they are sitting at R3 – they are only there for backup in an emergency and some cash generation.

      The only issue I have with Currie in the ruck is there is no FWD swing option. I doubt Currie is going to play 100% of games, so we will be losing a trade if one of our premo rucks go down and Currie is not picked that week.

      Cox and Grimley won't play all games either, but there is more chance 1 of them is playing any given week than Currie has solely.

        BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 13:06

        Hey COzza! what makes you think currie wont play all games? i think he will

          Cozza · 04/03/2016 at 17:29

          Mainly because there are other options at Gold Coast. i can see them mainly running with a Nichols as main ruck and Wright as backup ruck option – they seem to be grooming Wright primarily as a forward who can pinch ruck, which then negates the need to have a backup ruckman.

    DuckingTigers · 04/03/2016 at 11:15

    The ruck insurance policy failed dismally last year and the options this year are just as shaky.

West · 03/03/2016 at 22:45

Love how you write your articles patch, they flow really well

Tickles · 03/03/2016 at 22:50

Would have loved a look at KK, Malceski and Rosa today. Rodney isn't being much of a sport… Although he has allowed a butt load of rookies to now throw Trent Burn Man McKenzie into their teams…

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 23:12

    Same, Tickles. I understand why they don't want to fly their squad across the country for a preseason game, but our Supercoach squads take precedence and Rodney Bloody Eade doesn't seem to understand that. Should get Jock to give him a call.

LEKD0G · 03/03/2016 at 22:55

I love you Patch you sexy bastard, you flatter me too damn much.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 23:18

    I couldn't flatter you too much if I tried xo

      Gee · 04/03/2016 at 09:39

      Patch and Lekdog need a hotel room,maybe the one next to Higgo and his sexy spread sheets. I wonder which room would make the most noise…………definitely higgos

      BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 13:08

      you two blokes are an alright sort you know. After a hard day concreting and looking up at the sky soul searching for my fantasy structures, I always get a laugh out of some of the quality shit you blokes say

TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 22:56

Well that didn't bode well. Had yeo pegged as a top def this year but may have to reassess as hasn't exactly set the world on fire so far. Damn might have some thinking to do.

    Patch · 04/03/2016 at 11:45

    West Coast's back line looks to have plenty of potential there around his price range.

BarronVonCrow · 03/03/2016 at 23:00

Yeo is gone from my side at this current time.

Priddis is a confirmed lock for my side, as is Nic Nat.

McGinnity is only good if you want to go scuba diving.

I had been thinking back and forth about Wright as a F5-F6 option, but this game probably highlights how he'll go in the real stuff. Couple of goals a game, but scores in the 50-60's, with the occasional 90 odd thrown in, as well as some 30's.

Daniel Curie becomes interesting if Nicholls goes out with an injury (provided Curries is still his current price). Going up a good NicNat/Lycett combo and still pulled out a score of 91.

Bit disappointing with Fiorini and MacPherson's scores, as I had both in my bench calculations.

Great review, Patch!

    Derek · 04/03/2016 at 09:26

    everytime i put Yeo in my team it didn't look right, but i kept going back to him. I can happily put a line through him now.

    BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 13:10

    Crow, Currie is a gun mate. He will play as the back up ruckman at the suns all year mate, even with nicholls in the side he will still generate some good cash and has a good bye round to work with as well. Ive been saying this since before NAB

Cozza · 03/03/2016 at 23:07

Yoyo – not doing anything to keep himself in my team – even a big NAB4 will be lucky to save him.

NicNat or Gawn – has Gawn locked in until tonight. Hmmmmmmm…..

    Nathan · 04/03/2016 at 05:53

    Im gonna run with both instead of having goldy

      DuckingTigers · 04/03/2016 at 11:27

      They share a bye in round 14 which is problematic. I'm going for Gawn because he'll give what he can whereas Naitanui is more mercurial and therefore frustrating.

Steeeve · 03/03/2016 at 23:20

Fyfe and B Crouch plus $100k
Parker and Wines

    Paul · 04/03/2016 at 06:15

    M Crouch maybe. B Crouch is still injured. Think i read the other day that he isn't in full training yet

      Kev · 04/03/2016 at 06:56

      Right you are, Paul. I read that "little breakdowns" are forcing the crows to hold him back. Putting a line through Crouch this year, he needs a full season under his belt.

    Holty · 04/03/2016 at 07:19

    i wouldnt go either. id rather fyfe and parkes if you have the money. As paul and kev said, Crouch is injured so is risky. Wines after round 1 NAB either has a niggle (which i personally doubt) or was absolutely destroyed by Viney.

    Cozza · 04/03/2016 at 10:08

    Fyfe and Parker.

    Fyfe you will not trade all year unless he is injured. Crouch may be able to sit at M7/M8 for you for the year, but I'm expecting if I pick him that I will trade him to a premo at some stage. Fyfe will score more and the possibility of 1 less trade – its Fyfe for me.

    Have lost some faith in Wines after last week. He was locked in my side in all forms until last weekend, then made the switch to Parker in all forms. Not expecting Wines to produce that form during the season proper, I just think Parker is a safer option long term.

Vinny · 03/03/2016 at 23:26

how wind can ruin a match and most importantly fantasy scores!

    PJ8 · 04/03/2016 at 06:53

    They are some of the highest SC scores yet in the NAB

fox · 03/03/2016 at 23:31

Am seriously looking at Sheridan …. In favour of either smith or yeo ! Yeo disappointing again

    Cozza · 04/03/2016 at 10:17

    I'm starting to think along the same lines! Have big reservations for Smith and Yeo, although will probably go Rosa over Sheridan

      Patch · 04/03/2016 at 11:48

      I'm not a fan of Rosa, never scored overly highly and injury-prone. Still think Smith can do the job for us, but Yeo is a no for me at the moment.

        Average Joe · 04/03/2016 at 18:30

        Every time I'm about to trade Smith out of my team I always remember those tons he scored in years past… Plus after sticking with him all last year I feel like it would be a waste to not have him this year haha

Fff · 03/03/2016 at 23:35

Is this hipwood bloke a good replacement for Mitch brown ?

    BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 13:12

    didnt look ready in the lions hit out in NAB 1. Mathieson and Keays are the only rookie lions on my radar

Dee · 04/03/2016 at 00:13

Priddis or Gray?

    Holty · 04/03/2016 at 07:33


    BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 13:12

    defeinitely priddis

    Saundo · 04/03/2016 at 19:18


    Luviboy1 · 04/03/2016 at 20:39

    Priddis is a historically slow starter. Gray for me.

Jabba07 · 04/03/2016 at 01:20

1. LeCras or Stringer?
2. Rich or McGovern?


    Adam · 04/03/2016 at 05:58

    Jabba, stay away from LeCras. He is amazing but I know from personal experience that he has a tendency to get injured. He will definitely display some amazing performances but I don't think he'll pull big performances like this with JJ Kennedy as the main target

    With that said, go with Option 2

      Jabba07 · 04/03/2016 at 06:33

      Hi Adam thanks for that. So I assume you'd go for Stringer over leCras? Also Billings is someone I'm looking at… With Option 2, who would you go for Rich or McGovern?

        Adam · 04/03/2016 at 09:45

        Yes, Sorry, I meant Stringer not option 2, as Stringer a gun. As for Billings, I think he is going perform well this year and get a nice average but Stringer is a Wildcard who could become a jet or cause a stink and screw over your team. Tough decision, but Billings is safe option.

        As for option 2, Rich is has been the same old for the last few seasons, looking good, showing signs getting the odd hundred but also getting scores of 50-70 every third game . I suspect that and he'll stabilize at 85-90 for the season but next season he may go 95-100.

        McGovern is a personal favorite of mine and a strong starter. After a solid 118 in this NAB cup game he is showing signs of a breakout year and is the perfect age (24) for one. Not sure whether he'll get 100 or 85 yet. The rest of the Eagles returning could take point away but he just looked superb against the Suns and I can't see him slowing down.

        So I recommend McGovern as he has the highest ceiling of the two and looks incredible so far.

        Matt · 04/03/2016 at 10:07

        I'd go for Billings over those two, and McGovern over Rich, but they all seem like quite risky picks

          Jabba07 · 04/03/2016 at 10:11

          Thanks guys… Lout of inter

          Jabba07 · 04/03/2016 at 10:13

          Thanks guys. Out of interest who are you guns in the forward and back lines? Having difficulties as are most people. I'm pretty sold on Dusty, Barlow, laird, Sheridan, McGovern so far.

            Matt · 04/03/2016 at 13:21

            I've got Shaw, Bartel and Houli in defense, plus Johanissen as a mid-pricer. Dusty, Barlow and A. Hall in forward line along with Jack Martin

            Adam · 04/03/2016 at 15:16

            McGovern, Barlow , S.Gray , Laird , Z.Merrett , Sheridan and tossing up between Pittard and KK

    Patch · 04/03/2016 at 12:14

    Stringer and McGovern.

    I'd be cautious on Stringer, however. Be ready to jump off at a moment's notice if he starts playing close to goal

Shak · 04/03/2016 at 03:25

Thoughts on Andrew Gaff as a potential POD? Didn't seem like he was going at full tilt today as Patch stated and still finished with 30 possessions and 110 SC points. Very tempting especially after today's performance. Priced at exactly $560k

    Jabba07 · 04/03/2016 at 06:34

    I'd say it's either Gaff or Sidebottom – similar type players, same price. Both seem consistent…coin toss?

      Big balls · 04/03/2016 at 08:59

      Maybe think bye rounds or how many pies or eagles you have too

    bAps · 04/03/2016 at 09:48

    Its been a tossup between him and Priddis for me all pre-season. However I found the spare cash and went for Priddis, as he has a higher ceiling. Gaff on the other hand will get you a guaranteed 100-110 points each week, but not many 120+.

    Vinnymac · 04/03/2016 at 11:41

    Question is will he break into top 10 mids this year? Could very much be a similar breakout year to Hannebery last year!

    Adam · 04/03/2016 at 15:24

    Go with Gaff as one of your consistency scorers , He has another chance to expand his ceiling and only had one game under 80 for the whole season

    Jojo · 04/03/2016 at 16:16

    I currently have gaff in my team and I think he will stay

Adam · 04/03/2016 at 05:49

What does everyone think of McGovern?

24 years old which is popular a breakout year
back that up with a solid two seasons of 82 and 76 averages
Priced at 429.5K

With all this said, does the community think McGovern can get on average of 90?

    PJ8 · 04/03/2016 at 06:57

    Nothing better for SC than an intercepting defender. He is capable of taking 5-6 intercept marks a game plus the other stats on top of that. 90 average expected.

      PJ8 · 04/03/2016 at 09:02

      I know it's very early on in his career, but I can actually see Weitering being a similar type intercept player. In the NAB the other day he had 6 intercept marks and 3 other interceptions.

      Think that's how he will be scoring in SC this year.

    Kev · 04/03/2016 at 07:06

    Really like McG, Adam. I had him in his rookie year and he got me over line in several of my league games. WC use him as a Mr Fixit type, so you can never be sure if his role will be a high score scoring one. Continue to watch his nab games, if he stays fit I reckon he can go 95+ average for the year

@GAVEDAY · 04/03/2016 at 06:41

Nic nat's got a Brownlow in him I swear. R1 and Gawn at r2 is on the cards.

    Tony · 04/03/2016 at 09:19

    I'm thinking the same Gaveday, 100 plus ave I'm thinking from those 2 !
    Anyone thinking Blicavs this year ?

      Peter56 · 04/03/2016 at 09:38

      I have Goldy and Blicavs as my R1 and 2. Expensive but set and forget.

        Gaveday · 04/03/2016 at 09:45

        honestly believe goldy is not worth it,( I mean he is, but he's not) stef martin would be the most I'd spend giving you an extra 100k elsewhere.
        I'm suspicious with Goldy. No ruckman has backed up being the best in the league since dean cox and how many number 1 $value players increase ?


        Big call I know.

          Cozza · 04/03/2016 at 10:19

          Agreed Gaveday. I had Goldy/Martin as my set and forget, but have now saved $150k by going Martin/Gawn (Gawn or NicNat) which allows me to get Fyfe in the mids.

    Derek · 04/03/2016 at 11:17

    i'm waiting for Nic Nat to become the best football in the competition. He has the potential. He is in my team.

Kev · 04/03/2016 at 06:57


pup · 04/03/2016 at 07:12

thoughts on my squad $85k left

DEF- laird, macmillan, hurn, harwood, hartley, k.collins (adamson, tipungwuti)
Mid- dangerfield, pendles, mundy, priddis, rockliff, parker, libba, matheson (clarke, gore, macpherson)
RUC- Martin, Nic nat (king)
FWD- Barlow, Lynch (ade), hall, milera, kerridge, m.brown (petracca, mccarthy)

    Derek · 04/03/2016 at 11:16

    hurn at D3, do you think he will be a Kepper?

SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 07:21

McGovern, R.Gray and Tipunwunti


KK, Parker, 123k rookie

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/03/2016 at 07:48

    how bout McGovern, Parker and 123k rookie?

      SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 09:16

      Cheers Grahame, just thought Gray would be better than Parker and closer to top 10 mids.

        kevwal · 04/03/2016 at 10:49

        Gray is better than Parker and check out their first ten rounds.

          Derek · 04/03/2016 at 11:15

          Port's draw will pick Gray over Parker!

Marcus · 04/03/2016 at 07:36

Thoughts on my team?
Def: Laird, simpson, bartel, weitering, brown,
Mid: Dangerfield, ablett, gray, armitage, rockliff, libba, mills, menadue
Fwd: dusty, zorko, barlow, wells, kerridge, petracca
Ruck: goldy, gawn

    Marcus · 04/03/2016 at 07:39

    And byrne-jones in my backline

    Hawker · 04/03/2016 at 21:51

    -Gotta have Shaw (downgrade bartel to Smith or Johannisen and simpson to Shaw
    -Watch Wells otherwise menzel, simpkin or anderson

    Very well constructed team

uDonkey · 04/03/2016 at 08:14

So here's my team after a million times it's been changed had enough of it gonna stick to it.

Laird – Simpson – Johannisen
Sheridan – Byrne-Jones – Brown
Collins – Hartley

Fyfe – Danger – Abblett – Priddis
Gray – Libba – Mills – Gresham
Gore – Matheison – McPherson

Goldy – Nic Nat or Gawn

Martin – Barlow – Tippett
Kerridge – Petrecca – Hunt
Grimley – Cox

10k in the kitty if i pick Gawn
400 if i pick Nic Nat

Taking a punt on Sheridan using him as my stepping stone to a premo. I wanna set and forget rucks it's why i have tippett up forward and hopefully he'll be a keeper possibly become an F5 or F6.

Some rookies may change pending whose playing comes round 1.
Would appreciate it of what you guys think of my team and if there's anyway i can improve it.

Also if anyone is interested of joining my league 163650

    Holty · 04/03/2016 at 08:30

    No Rocky? Apart from that, looks like a very solid side.

      uDonkey · 04/03/2016 at 09:22

      Yep no Rocky this year. It was him or Priddis every other year i would've picked Rocky last year just killed me when he got injured burnt two trades to get him and getting him back in. I will get him later on if i can fit him in.

        Derek · 04/03/2016 at 11:14

        you need to go Rocky. he will be in top 8 this year and you probably won't get him any cheaper. Priddis will also be top 8 but you are a chance to get him cheaper. You are putting yourself behind managers who get rocky now and and priddis later.

          Supercoach Legend · 04/03/2016 at 12:05

          poor advice, no one'a a lock to be a top 8 mid. Gaz, Rockliff, Selwood were all meant to be locks for top 8 last season and none of them were even close to that. Go with your gut, if you don't want Rockliff, don't put him in. Personally, think he'll average 110-115. He's cheap, but you can live without him.

            Derek · 04/03/2016 at 12:36

            I think uDonkey said he wants Rocky in his team, but will get him later on

            i'm saying that if he does that he will probably have to pay more than his starting price. I'm choosing to get priddis at a later date, hopefully cheaper than he is now. so at the end of the day we will both have Rocky and priddis, i would have just paid alot less for them.

          uDonkey · 04/03/2016 at 18:23

          Thanks for advice Derek.. it was either Rocky or Priddis, every year i have always pick Rocky and pick up Priddis later on. Last year just hurt me big time, thought I'd reverse it this time starting with Priddis and pick up Rocky later. I know his price will go up, but hoping it won't go up as much. It's a gamble i am willing to take, Libba on the other hand might be my stepping stone to Rocky, depending on how he goes and where he fits in the Dogs line up after a year off with injury.

    Kev · 04/03/2016 at 08:58

    Cox will play this year, but not enough to make him a worthy selection at F8. Not sold on Hunt either yet, nothing about him is making me stand and take notice.

    Premiums look solid. Looks like a well balanced team mate

      uDonkey · 04/03/2016 at 09:29

      Thanks Kev.. will be looking closely on all rookies before round 1. I can always put Brown up forward and get tipunwunti in defs if his name for round 1

lostlarrikin · 04/03/2016 at 08:18

Nice work Patch.
It's Rocket's Walking Dead v2.0.
Can see a few GC rooks putting their hand up for a spot on our benches with JOM, Swallow, Riski, Lonergan all injured and Prestia still not 100%. Swallow and JOM wont be sighted til round six i'm guessing.
Liked the look of mature ager Ryan Davis. Watchlist.

Garlett sure to get games this year. The three kids in Fiorini, surfer dude and AhChee might get a run here and there but not expecting favourable scoring.

Holty · 04/03/2016 at 08:27

Wow, I have no idea what has happened but haven't made any changes to my side for 2 days and somehow my remaining salary has moved from 141k to 251k. Done the maths and is now correct. Happy days.
Also, great work Patch on another great write up. I wonder how many people are jumping ship on Yeo now?

    Derek · 04/03/2016 at 11:12

    Holty, you have finally reached the point of insanity. You are starting to see things!. the sooner the season starts the better for you and all of us.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/03/2016 at 11:53

      Agree though if u figure out how you did that holty let's us know as could always do with more $ 🙂

        Holty · 04/03/2016 at 13:05

        LOL. I think it was a glitch. Either way, happy with the end result.

    Hawk · 04/03/2016 at 20:09

    At this rate your guaranteed to win the cash, because you will have a couple of million more than the rest of us to spend

gator59 · 04/03/2016 at 08:39

Thoughts on this side community

Backs…. Laird… Bartel… Sheridan… Weitering… Brown(Ess)… Broad …( K.Collins… Hibberd )

Mids… Fyfe… Danger… GAJ… Neale… Rocky… Libba… Parish… Cunningham… ( Gore… Phillips… Adamson )

Rucks… Nic Nat… Gawn……..( Wyatt )

Fwds… Martin… Wingard… Barlow… Stringer… Menzel… Kerridge… ( Petracca… Grimley )

Please feel free to pick the bones on this side
Positives and Negatives
Cheers guys and gals..

    Derek · 04/03/2016 at 11:10

    Sheridan (D3), Fyfe M1), Neale (M4) & Barlow (F3) all fremantle players. that is alot of spend on one team. they do have a fairly good draw, but i wouldn't be putting so many eggs in one basket.

      gator59 · 04/03/2016 at 11:37

      Thanks Derek about the Freo boys,, will have another look..

Tom · 04/03/2016 at 08:51

Thoughts on my team?

Laird, KK, Bartel, Weitering, Brown, Hartley

Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, GAJ, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Gresham

Goldy, Currie (Grimley)

Dusty, Wingard, Barlow, Riewolt, Menadue, kerridge

I know its a massive risk going in with currie at R2 but with back up from Grimley and Cox I reckon it could work.

Riewolt could change to a franklin/hall or someone else around that price also.

About 5k left in the bank

    Kev · 04/03/2016 at 09:35

    KK not really justifying his 482k pricetag yet, and Crouch is still struggling to get his body right.

    You're taking a massive hit in the rucks as you said. Currie is behind Nicholls, Cox is behind Grundy and Witts, haven't seen Grimley yet, he's competing with Leuy and McKernon.

    It's a ballsy strategy, to make it work I'd chop Weitering, Crouch, Menadue, Roo and use the cash for a full midfield premium (with Libba at M8)

      Phil · 04/03/2016 at 15:33

      Gday Lads I agree with everything Kev said although I've got a sneaking suspicion Grimley might be in the best 22 with McKernan and Daniher in the forward line. That would leave Leuy, Michael and Jamar fighting out a ruck spot. Very tall indeed, but I recall last time Woosha was coach they played with Cox, NicNat, Q.Lynch and Kennedy all in the same team with Darling 4th tall forward. So I reckon he likes it this way…time will tell.

      Tom · 04/03/2016 at 15:44

      Grimley played aginst carlton and was a forward. I can see him playing there with Joey Daniher for most the year. Ws the VFL leading goalkicker last year.

Vote · 04/03/2016 at 09:05

Best midpriced under 450k defenders? Mid proceed

    gator59 · 04/03/2016 at 09:16

    Rich ,, McGovern.. JJ,, Sheridan…….. IMO

    Derek · 04/03/2016 at 11:02

    Smith (is still very good value), Rich (if he gets into the guts).

    A few even cheaper smokies are Salem $399k, Savage $398k, Van Berlo $350k and Cutler $292k.

Dave · 04/03/2016 at 09:32

Why is nobody talking about jasper pittard? He's got the potential to be easily a top 8 defender. Runs off half back and kicks the ball nice and long.

    neil · 04/03/2016 at 09:55

    in the words of the late great jack dyer good average player .Let us all down last couple years .No from me.

    PJ8 · 04/03/2016 at 10:02

    Huge breakout potential this year. Only decided to have a look at him just now after I saw your comment.

    Will be 25yo this year
    Improved his season average each year over the last 3
    7 scores over 90 last year with 5 tons.

    I like him

    dwhits · 04/03/2016 at 10:18

    Thought that last year, too inconsistent, too many 60s and 70s scores

    Adam · 04/03/2016 at 10:32

    I find for guys like Pittard it takes until 28 for them to get rid of inconsistencies, but I could easily be wrong.

    Derek · 04/03/2016 at 10:54

    I had a think about him, but only because i was looking for any Port players to stuff in my team based on PORT's easy draw. I thought about him for about 5 minutes and didn't even put him on my watchlist. Big NO

Leanne · 04/03/2016 at 09:39

Jetta has a calf injury not ankle. Also the article says (Naitanui was an absolute jet and took strong contestest marks) sorry but it was against a very weak team with a weak ruck duo.. Nic took only (two marks) and I hope his efforts were just a warm up because I wouldn't be picking based on last nights game.

    PJ8 · 04/03/2016 at 09:55

    Righto Debbie Downer.

    The article is as Patch saw the game. You are more than welcome to write your own article with your thoughts on the game.

      Grahame Lebroy · 04/03/2016 at 10:55

      i think it is worth noting that Nic Nat was against a second rate ruck setup

      DuckingTigers · 04/03/2016 at 11:42

      I think she's entitled to her opinion on a player in this game. Her comments did not deride Patch's they were simply her observations for the community's consideration.

cjratcliffe · 04/03/2016 at 10:17

Thoughts on my team
Def- Laird, KK, Bartel, Sheridan, M.Brown, Byrne-Jones (Hibberd, Tucker)
Mid- Fyfe, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Zaharakis, Liberatore, B. Crouch, Trengove (Keays, Long, MacPherson)
Ruc- Goldstein, Gawn (Michael)
Fwd- Martin, Barlow, Bell (or Hall), De Goey, Kerridge, Petrecca (Grimley, Silvagi)

LHMORWOOD · 04/03/2016 at 10:23

N. Naitanui or M. Gawn for R2 ?

    Adam · 04/03/2016 at 15:56

    Use Them as R1 and R2

TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/03/2016 at 11:11

I had yeo locked at d3 in defence. But may have to find the key. Nothing impressive at all in the first two matches though clangers impacted his sc score. What do we think of sheridan? Real deal or fools gold? He finished last season very well and continuing this year. Looks like his role had changed. Thinking of going yeo down to sheridan using the extra cash elsewhere and upgrade sheridan later if required. As at the moment I can see him scoring similar or even better than yeo and the extra $ will be used to strengthen.

Thoughts esp on Sheridan and his potential.

    Grahame Lebroy · 04/03/2016 at 12:09

    Heavily considering him myself as a stepping stone to a Shaw or McVeigh type. As u say carried his form on from second half of last year. The question for me is will he score enough points before it is time to upgrade him, not sure. I am also considering L.Mcdonald 280kish from North.

    Seen alot of teams with Bartel in, does that mean people see him as a keeper? Will he play enough games?

      Derek · 04/03/2016 at 12:27

      i expect bartel to still be in my team at the end of the year, Unless injured.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/03/2016 at 12:55

      Yeah think I may start him and upgrade once we know who's who in Def or if he is going OK leave him do his thing for a bit.

      As for bartel that is what makes def so hard. Lots of guys long in the tooth bartel, boyd, mcveigh, Enright, murphy etc who will b rested during the year probably miss 3-4 games. Do we put them in and use the bench when the general strikes or pick an up and comer who u think will b one of the top scorers in def who are much more unreliable and inconsistent than the veterans??

      Think U need a foot in both camps. Hedge your bets. Need stability and the brash breakout kid.

      I'm starting Boyd unless he gives me a reason not to pick him so probably won't have bartel as one old fella back there is enough. .

tttt · 04/03/2016 at 11:27 at D3 and gray/priddis at M5
450k+ def and parker at M5 ?

    Supercoach Legend · 04/03/2016 at 12:07

    Rich and Parker?

      Derek · 04/03/2016 at 12:26

      I see priddis is the only real Keeper out of that lot. Even then i think you can get him cheaper later. Have you already got JPK?

        neil · 04/03/2016 at 13:02

        did u get robbo in your team derek

          Derek · 04/03/2016 at 13:32

          Yes. F4

            neil · 04/03/2016 at 13:48

            been trying to do same but only option is goldy which is probably the way u went ur on a winner if rucks hold up .Remember the rules Derek PAY THE PRICE NO. 4 I think

              Derek · 04/03/2016 at 14:09

              Goldy is back in the team.

              Laird, Bartel, Rich, Smith, Brown, Bryne-Jones (Hartley, Collins)

              Ablett, Fyfe, Pendlebury, Rocky, Libba, Macaffer, Gresham, Petracca (Keough, Mathieson, Keays)

              Goldy, Nic Nat (Cox)

              Dusty, Wingard. Barlow, Robinson, Simpkin, Kerridge (Grimley, McDonald-T)

                Derek · 04/03/2016 at 14:13

                my option 2 is to Go Lobbe instead of Goldy and try and get Goldy later. Downgrade Simpkin to $117k rookie and upgrade Macaffer to JPK.

                Goldy, Simpkin & Maccaffer OR Lobbe, JPK & rookie?

                  Derek · 04/03/2016 at 14:15

                  Laird, Bartel, Rich, Smith, Brown, Bryne-Jones (Hartley, Collins)

                  Ablett, Fyfe, Pendlebury, JPK, Rocky, Libba, Gresham, Petracca (Keough, Mathieson, Keays)

                  Nic Nat, Lobbe (Cox)

                  Dusty, Wingard. Barlow, Robinson, Kerridge, Kommer (Grimley, McDonald-T)

                  hedeski · 04/03/2016 at 14:15

                  Goldy Simpkin B.Kennedy?

                neil · 04/03/2016 at 15:14

                mids could be a problem Derek petracca out don't know Keough but others no certainty to play r1.. why not wingard or robbo for jpk Jpk is a gun imo

                  Derek · 04/03/2016 at 15:58

                  Final team will depend alot of the rookies and who is named and who i can trust. the name of the game is cash generation. Depending on where the best opportunities to get cash-cows will determine if JPK or Wingard/Robo makes the final cut.

                    neil · 04/03/2016 at 17:07

                    Last year rookies were obvious to all.This year not so .Its going to be a raffle or a lot of luck/research Names like schoenfield willis cole parlington olliver are all risky.I am thinking more of the tried and proven players Menadue kommer and dpp is going to play a big part this yr but there doesn't seem to be to many defensive options for dpp thoughts

Tom · 04/03/2016 at 11:29

what do we think of Riewolt this year? moving up the field like richo did in 2008

    Rodney C · 04/03/2016 at 14:40


    wombatsfc · 04/03/2016 at 15:11

    If you mean Roo and he starts the way the he usually does he'll be the #1 Fwd after the first 5. If you mean Jack your wasting time

Thom · 04/03/2016 at 11:44

Looking to fill a competitive league.

Thanks !

    B-T · 04/03/2016 at 17:32

    Cheers mate from "Big Areola's"

Mark · 04/03/2016 at 12:01

Thoughts on my team guys?

DEF: Laird, Murphy, Bartel, Sheridan, Weitering, Brown (ESS), (Byrne-Jones), (K.Collins)

MID: Fyfe, Ablett, Gray, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Petracca, Mathieson, (Keays), (Gresham), (Davis)

RUCKS: Mumford, Nic Nat, (King)

FWDS: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Milera, Kerridge, (Menadue), (McCarthey)

34k left in the bank btw

vchap · 04/03/2016 at 12:03

If yeo is suddenly a pod im willing to roll the dice

    Phil · 04/03/2016 at 15:40

    Good call Vchap, I might be just you, me & Crouching One. Very wise man that Crouching One, 'When everybody jump off, I stay on'

Jimmy · 04/03/2016 at 13:07

Thoughts on my team:

DEF: Laird, KK, Rampe, T.Mckenzie, Weitering, Brown, (Broad), (K.Collins)

MID: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Gray, Shiel, B.Ellis, Libba, C.Mills (N.Freeman), (J.Polkinghorne), (R.Mathieson)

RUCK: Gawn, Z.Smith, (Grimley)

FWD: Dusty, Barlow, Wells, Hipwood, Kerridge, Petracca, (O'Brien), (M.Cox)

20K left.

    Mmsmmsmsm · 04/03/2016 at 13:33

    Definitely get rid of cannon!

    Hawker · 04/03/2016 at 18:02

    Light on up Forward, I'd look towards greene or stringer for F3. Hipwood probs not going to see early game time
    Need a set and forget ruck (goldy, martin, nic nat) your relying on Gawn as you top ruck which is risky
    In the Midfield I'd suggest downgrade either Gray, Shiel or Ellis to Parish to free up some cash. Freeman injury concern
    Defence is solid however structure is an issue with two mid-pricers who both could be guns but again risky- (Mckenzie has burnt me before)- Rampe definite breakout contender

    Overall strong squad with a midfield packed lineup, some structural issues but I suppose the midfield is where the points are

Jamie · 04/03/2016 at 13:19

Thoughts on Jack redden ?

Quality player will he score well in a decent midfield

    PJ8 · 04/03/2016 at 13:29

    I don't even think he'd be in the top 20 Mids come season

    lostlarrikin · 04/03/2016 at 19:02

    yuk! Injury-affected pre-season, will be lucky to play 10 games.

Mark · 04/03/2016 at 13:38

K. Simpson and M. Priddis or
A. Rance and L. Parker

    hedeski · 04/03/2016 at 14:19

    I'd go 2 and look at Priddis as an upgrade? Cheers

      Holty · 04/03/2016 at 14:39

      Opposite for me. #1 as Simpson and Priddis should be both keepers where I dont think Parker will quite be there in that Top 12 mids by seasons end

Rick Grimes · 04/03/2016 at 13:50

Seriously considering Riewoldt instead of Martin. Is that loco?

    Holty · 04/03/2016 at 14:18

    Which one?

      Rick Grimes · 04/03/2016 at 15:48

      Tiges variety. I'm not that cray cray.

        Holty · 04/03/2016 at 16:32

        hi rick. no to the tiges variety but the saints one could be interesting this year. im not touching him due to age but he will be a POD and with a new role could be good value.

          lostlarrikin · 04/03/2016 at 19:00

          JRoo -> loco!

          Yep if any would go NRoo.

neil · 04/03/2016 at 14:10

youre kidding rick.Riewoldt is argumentive selfish tribunual risk where as martin is mmmm the same martins just better

    SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 14:34

    Neil he may be talking about Nick…

      neil · 04/03/2016 at 15:19

      totally different my apologies to the great one still ones an ageing champ the other a Mark Jackson clown champ I STILL GO FOR the new individual

hedeski · 04/03/2016 at 14:26

Parker and Wingard or
R.Gray and Greene?

    dannyyboyy · 04/03/2016 at 18:41

    gray and greene imo. we will get to see greene tonight finally.

      hedeski · 04/03/2016 at 18:58

      Yeah I'm leanin that way dannyyboyy trust gray for the points more than Chad and hopin Greene learns how to kick.

Sana · 04/03/2016 at 14:48

I've always enjoyed the name 'Indooroopilly'

bruce · 04/03/2016 at 15:00

Liked the games of Hall and Mcgovern think they will have good seasons. Join my leagues 369071and 146068

    neil · 04/03/2016 at 15:22

    Both high on my watch list. just cant get rid of the 4 champs goldy martin shaw fyfe need them all sometime

greg · 04/03/2016 at 15:41

thoughts on my side guys much appreciated
Shaw, Bartel, Smith, Hurn, weitering, brown (bryne, bryne-jones)
Fyfe, Dangerfield, pendles, ablett, JPK, rockliff, Liberatore, Mathieson, (jansen, gore, kerridge)
Goldstein, gawn
Martin, Dahlhaus, barlow, riewoldt, de goey, menzel, (grimly, McCarthy)

    Rick Grimes · 04/03/2016 at 15:50

    Can you actually afford that team?

      FootyFanatic · 04/03/2016 at 15:56

      I doubt it

      Holty · 04/03/2016 at 16:36

      i was thinking the same.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/03/2016 at 15:58

    Great looking team unfortunately it is only a mere $1.5m over the $10m salary cap. Your last name wouldn't be Swann would it? Cant take a trick Greg. Another breach of the salary cap.

    magpie4ver · 04/03/2016 at 16:13

    Did someone give you $10,000,000 more?

Tom · 04/03/2016 at 15:59

How much many do we think we should be entering the season with? Does it matter?

    Tom · 04/03/2016 at 16:16


Ren · 04/03/2016 at 16:00

A. Hall and Boyd


KK and N.Riewolt

    Leeds17 · 04/03/2016 at 18:28

    A.Hall & Laird+$

      Ren · 04/03/2016 at 21:12

      Already have Laird thats why i gave the options above.

Derek · 04/03/2016 at 16:06

Early in the season every dollar on the field counts

SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 16:25

Am I the only one a little concerned about Hall.

No doubt about it, he has been playing very well, but come half way through the season, when the likes of JOM, Swallow, Prestia, Rischitelli come back, will his scoring he affected?

    lostlarrikin · 04/03/2016 at 18:59

    I get the feeling that he has played himself into a mid spot.
    If he maintains form early then i can't see him getting shafted.
    It will really be JOM and Swallow he needs to compete with, Prestia will be there come R1.
    Its a risk to start him at that price cos ur banking on him being a keeper.
    Top 10 fwd? Maybe.

Derek · 04/03/2016 at 16:44

is laird worth $90k more than Smith?

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 04/03/2016 at 16:50

    Yep I believe so.
    Laird will get more mid time and will carry on where he left off last season.

    Smith has done nothing so far to indicate he is gonna go back to all Australian form.
    One more match to convince us though don't think he will make the final cut.

      SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 16:55

      Yes easily. Smith cannot kick the pill accurately if his life depends on it. Derek whats your team look like?

        Leeds17 · 04/03/2016 at 18:25


        Average Joe · 04/03/2016 at 19:50

        I reckon Smith will start off slow and then bounce back to racking up tons. If he can average 77 last year during an injury riddled campaign then I think he can go much higher this year

    Shake n bake · 04/03/2016 at 18:29

    Laird was my 1st pick in def Derek think he's a no brainer!

Holty · 04/03/2016 at 17:07

does anyone think Patty Cripps coukd be a keeper or is it wishful thinking? he has the perfect game for supercoach but obviously not with the best team (my team unfortunately).

    SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 17:14

    I would say its unlikely, considering he is the best mid in that team (I see him as better than Murphy and Gibbs) and may cop the tag. It's a lot of pressure for a young bloke.

      Holty · 04/03/2016 at 17:40

      it is. as a carlton supporter he has all the pressure on him with not much support. Gibbs, Murph and co really do need to step up and support him. help him when he is tagged. get a bit of mongrel in them which they havent had for a few years now.

        Holty · 04/03/2016 at 17:41

        we need to bring back fraser brown

Hawker · 04/03/2016 at 17:31

Any thoughts of my side is much appreciated
DEF: Shaw, Laird, Johannisen, Weitering, Brown (ess), broad, (adamson, K.collins)
MID: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett or Pendlebury, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, Parish (Kerridge, Gore, Keays)
RUCK: Martin, Gawn (Wyatt)
FWD: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Menzel, Milera or Menadue, Mccarthy (Grimely, Hunt)

neil · 04/03/2016 at 17:46

absolutely Lairds disposal is spot on .more mid time this yr too.He will be a gun and my first picked def. personally don't rate smith or bartel Both wont play most games and will let you down. There is a plethora of def taent.RANCE MACD HOULI SIMMO SHAW

    SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 17:56

    Don't be so sure on McDonald and Rance just yet.

      Tom · 04/03/2016 at 18:12

      Whats your backline looking like SC Beast?

      neil · 04/03/2016 at 18:27

      both in all aust squad

        Derek · 04/03/2016 at 20:23

        That was last year

          neil · 04/03/2016 at 21:41

          that's the most current data.they were ajudged better than smith yeoand company .what else can we go on except nab.

      hedeski · 04/03/2016 at 19:00

      Rance my d1.

SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 17:57

Struggling to pick a D3 and 4, any suggestions? Currently got McGovern and Weitering

    Hawker · 04/03/2016 at 18:16

    Rosa, Johannisen, Suckling, D3 McDonald (NM) D.Howe (Haw) D4

    lostlarrikin · 04/03/2016 at 18:54

    getting all over Sheridan and Macmillan

      SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 18:59

      Not many people select Macmillan.

    hedeski · 04/03/2016 at 19:02

    I have same d3 and d4. Whos your 1 & 2 beast?
    I have Rance and Laird.

      SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 19:14

      Shaw and Laird

        hedeski · 04/03/2016 at 19:20

        Nice. Heater upgrade target numero uno

          SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 19:25

          yes, i cannot decide wether to start him or not. Big points vs big spending

            hedeski · 04/03/2016 at 20:00

            I have goldilocked R1 a generous midfield and Choppies F1. I'm starting to shy away from mid pricers bar Libba Gov and possibly Spitta Greene. I think Shaw must drop price and be target 1 with def being so fickle.

    tophawk · 04/03/2016 at 19:52

    I have Shaw and Laird at D1 and D2. Then for me it is a toss up between Bartel or Mc Govern (D3) and Weitering (D4). Johanissen could also be a good POD pick at D3. Cheers

      Luviboy1 · 04/03/2016 at 20:38

      Have the exact same defense mate. Looks delicious.

        SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 21:01

        Who's defence do you have the same as ahaha?

          Luviboy1 · 04/03/2016 at 21:14

          Tophawks; Shaw, Laird, McGovern, Weitering.

            SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 21:48

            Same as mine as well at this stage ahaha

              Luviboy1 · 04/03/2016 at 22:49

              Looks the goods imo

magpie4ver · 04/03/2016 at 19:08

PATCH……Are you really seriously considering Currie as R 2?

    SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 19:40

    Its a ballsy move!

      magpie4ver · 04/03/2016 at 19:49

      Yeah he has 5 rucks 4 rookies???? I see his plan but damn!!!!

        magpie4ver · 04/03/2016 at 19:49

        Oh sorry 3 rookie rucks

Average Joe · 04/03/2016 at 19:43

Stef Martin, wells and Weitering + 85k left over
NicNat, Z Merrett and cheap rookie (123k etc) + 37k left over

    Luviboy1 · 04/03/2016 at 20:39

    Option 1. Taking the risk on Wells as well. Weitering looks the goods and you cannot go wrong with Stef.

tophawk · 04/03/2016 at 20:30

I am going to call it early. Heath Shaw is a lock. 17 disposals at half time. With all the uncertainty in the backline for the upcoming season, he will at least bring some certainty at D1. Top $ very well spent.

    Luviboy1 · 04/03/2016 at 20:32

    Totally agree tophawk. Was gonna go without, but bloody hell, Heater looks irresistible. 16 by foot as well. LOCK.

    gator59 · 04/03/2016 at 20:32

    Totally agree Tophawk

    Holty · 04/03/2016 at 20:50

    agree with you all. Have had him since the start but of late been tempted to downgrade him and strengthen other lines. wont be doing that anymore.

    Derek · 04/03/2016 at 21:39

    Have to pay the price

      tophawk · 04/03/2016 at 21:50

      Are you willing to pay the price to get Heath Shaw into your side? Or are you suggesting that there is "a price to pay" for getting him in?

        magpie4ver · 05/03/2016 at 01:18

        He wasnt in my side but now he is!

SC16 · 04/03/2016 at 20:58

Thoughts on Fantasia at D3? behind Laird and Bartel and in front of Weitering? or anyone else around the 300-200k price you reccomend?

    SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 21:10


      SC16 · 04/03/2016 at 21:33

      you reckon sherridan is better than fantasia? i think fantasia can really shine especially in the new essondon team

        magpie4ver · 05/03/2016 at 01:20

        I like Fantasia because I think ur right SC16 and he's cheaper!

    Derek · 04/03/2016 at 21:38

    Cutler at $292 worth a look

SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 21:10

Shaw and Greene are looking the goods so far!

    Luviboy1 · 04/03/2016 at 21:17

    Both have found their way into my team even before the match has ended hahah

    tophawk · 04/03/2016 at 21:20

    Shaw is a lock for me and "Greene" is flashing on my radar "screen". hehehe

    SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 21:21

    I'm not sold on Greene yet, could be a trap/burnman

      tophawk · 04/03/2016 at 21:32

      I agree. I am just watching him closely at the moment. He has had a very good game tonite and is pushing his claims. But not in my team by any means.

        magpie4ver · 05/03/2016 at 01:22

        I am as well both parked in my side as of now??? See what develops next week!

Hawker · 04/03/2016 at 21:39

Any thoughts of my side is much appreciated
DEF: Shaw, Laird, Johannisen, Weitering, Brown (ess), broad, (adamson, K.collins)
MID: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett or Pendlebury, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, Parish (Kerridge, Gore, Keays)
RUCK: Martin, Gawn (Wyatt)
FWD: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Menzel, Milera or Menadue, Mccarthy (Grimely, Hunt)

    SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 21:44

    I'm seeing more and more teams not running with Goldy now. Don't say I agree with it, but don't say I don't. Pretty stock standard team. Looks good.

neil · 04/03/2016 at 21:45

pay the price heater rance laird

    SC_Beast · 04/03/2016 at 21:47

    be careful of rance KPP

    tophawk · 04/03/2016 at 22:01

    I am now even more unsure on Rance. Now that Shaw is looking good, you may need to forgo Rance in order to fit heater in. You cant have both IMO.

      neil · 04/03/2016 at 22:21

      Ihave shaw rance and laird and3 rooks even that's tough

BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 22:01

peoples thoughts on shannon hurn? a few years back was a very good scorer in our backlines but last year was playing tall? Last night he looked to be playing that original position where he scored 85-95 consistantly

tophawk · 04/03/2016 at 22:49

Hi community,

After tonight's and last night's NAB challenge matches, my hand has been forced to make some adjustments to my side.

Def- Shaw, Laird, McGovern, Weitering, Brown (Ess), Hartley (Byrne-Jones, K.Collins)

Mid- Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Liberatore, Mills, Parish (Gresham, Mathieson, MacPherson)

Ruc: Naitanui, Gawn (Grimley)

Fwd- D.Martin, Barlow, Stringer, D.Menzel, Milera, Kerridge (L.Mc Carthy, Petracca)

22K in the piggy bank.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Bailey · 05/03/2016 at 10:00

Shaw and a rookie or de goey and sherridan?

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