Supercoach 2016 midpriced defenders

I woke up with a terrible hangover yesterday morning.

This hangover was not alcohol induced. This was NAB cup induced. I opened my team to find a plethora of mid pricers – De Goey, Menzel, Crouch, Parish, Luke McDonald, Johannisen, Daniel Howe, Aish, Smith, all scattered through my team. It was simply terrifying, community. I had caught NAB fever. Johannisen was at D1, for Christ’s sake! It was madness I tells ya!

The lunacy had to end. The midpricers were cut, and I reset my side. But it was a wakeup call. This bloody NAB cup, as much as we love it, drives us insane. Stick to your guns. Don’t go chasing bloody 120s in the NAB, unless those 120s are backed by serious statistical analysis and evidence.

So I reset my team, with a twist to account for performances I think warrant attention. So, without any further ado, to-ing and fro-ing or awful clichés; I present to you: Patch’s Potatoes.

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Embracing the Shark

In the mighty Jock Reynolds magazine last season, Peter Higginbotham wrote a sensational piece about staying ahead of the pack.

I’ve tried to incorporate that into my side – I’m avoiding the most expensive players in each line -aside from the midfield – and finding value in the bookends. You’ll notice both Dustin Martin and Todd Goldstein fit this mould, and Rory Laird only just creeps in over Lekdog’s famous 500K defender rule.

Instead, I’m leaving space up forward to generate cash, and have saved 100K by picking the rucks I feel will finish in the #2 and #3 spots for 2016, which can go into more points around the ground. Both ruckman collect their own pill and tackle like men possessed. I have no room for men like Matthew Lobbe who stand, tap, repeat.

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Putting the POD in potato

I’ve spoken and tweeted extensively about Zach Merrett, whose position at F3 should surprise no-one. He’s not risk free, and will have the odd 60, but he is primed. Accompanying him in my forward line is perhaps my biggest call for 2016 – Kurt Tippett.

Before you head straight to the comments section to tell me I should call my side the spuds, open Ocker’s Spreadsheet, and find Tippett’s scores for 2015. Look at his back half of the year. Tippett averaged 118 in the back 10 rounds of 2015. 118 points. He shared ruck duties with Mike Pyke, he kicked goals, he was up and about. He has a massive ceiling, and I feel he and Sinclair will share the ruck role 50/50. It’s a big call but one I will make. He hasn’t left my side.

Johannisen will be eased into Bob Murphy’s role at the dogs this year, so I think he’ll score well – better than Yeo or Rich in that price range. I’m also looking at Hurn, who had to play tall in 2015 which killed his scores.

Dylan Shiel and Max Gawn are left field picks, but rapidly losing POD status. Both are ready to explode and I’m backing them both in.

The engine room

I have a stacked midfield. That’s where the points are, and I feel most of the cash generation is up forward this year. Parish will hold his own, but is neck and neck with Mills for that M8 spot. Parish is in front only because his role will be Get The Ball for 22 games, and I’m uncertain around Mills’ role once McVeigh returns.

M1-3 speak for themselves; as do Rockliff and Liberatore. JPK has finished top 8 every year for the past 4 years, and has missed two games in that time. He may become Parker, as Parker presents incredible value, but JPK is as solid as they come in the midfield. Ollie Wines is carrying a niggling groin injury which has him on the backburner of my side, but he’s every chance to come in before round 1 – if I can find the room.

Rookies

As you may suspect, my side is no-where near settled, and the rookies are the most volatile part of an ever-changing team. They will change before round 1.

Righteo community. Is it a team of spuds or are the Potatoes cooked just right? See you in the comments!




518 Comments

@BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2016 at 15:32

Patcho! I really dig that team. Probably one of the more unique ones we'll see, but if a few guys pull off good years I think you'll be laughing.

JPK? Love him to bits, nice pick.
Tippett? He can go and get stuffed, but if he's getting big R1 minutes he should be good. He always plays better when he can get involved in it, rather than just waiting for the ball to come to him.

Merrett and Johannisen will be your biggest ones, I reckon. Johannisen was fantastic when I saw him play against the Giants and Merrett is gonna have every opportunity in the world to score well. No Goldstein in the ruck is always a risk, but you've probably got the two next best options there.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:26

    Thanks Barron! Looking forward to your, mate!

    Tippett has flog-like qualities, but feel if he's up the ground he's dangerous. Merrett locked and I like what I see in JJoh.

      SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:36

      Do you see Tippet as a keeper along with Merret?

        Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:56

        Both have been selected with the intentions of staying all year.

          fatboyfat7 · 01/03/2016 at 22:40

          JJ was going to be a big POD for me this year but seems like he's getting the deserved recognition across the board this year after Nab1. Shiel is an interesting one for mine. Had a cracking start to 2015 and was scoring big but I still can't bring myself to pick him over Parker. (I just can't get away from the shoal it seems!)

      Bill · 01/03/2016 at 23:55

      Doggies fan here. My issue with JJ is theres only one pill to share down back between murphy, boyd, wood and possibly biggs, suckling.. too risky for mine. But you dont win playing it safe.

    LuskinStar · 02/03/2016 at 00:39

    Even if JJ lifts his average by 10 its still not enough to be a keeper and at 400k+ he wont make much coin. Think you guys are getting carried away with a NAB game against a second string Giants side.

      fatboyfat7 · 02/03/2016 at 16:51

      If he lifts his avg by 10 he'll be inside the top 15 defenders going by last year. I'd take that happily. I also stated in another thread prior to NAB 1 that he was in my side. He's about 23/24 now and with his speed I think he'll easily get an improved responsibility with the likes of Boyd and Murphy pushing on in years. Its a risk I know but thats the game…

      Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:37

      He needs to show me more of the same to stay there. I know they've got a lot down there, but they really rate him and his pace is a step above the rest.

SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 15:33

No Goldstein? Do you intend to get him?

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:26

    Nope. I'm aiming to make zero trades in the ruck this year – I'm taking the point loss on the chin and hoping I can make it up around the ground.

I N Pieman · 01/03/2016 at 15:34

Pretty good Patch. Agree with the stacked midfield. The mid rooks this year either have poor JS or the ones that do are expensive. Load them up back & front. Nice work

Simmo_mate · 01/03/2016 at 15:34

Thoughts on putting eastern wood in the backline? Or should I invest elsewhere

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:28

    Not for mine, Simmo. Feel there are better options around. In Coachkings those intercept marks will tear the game apart, but not for longer form.

      Simmo_mate · 02/03/2016 at 09:19

      Thanks patch, Might go with KK or Birch instead

fox · 01/03/2016 at 15:35

Solid team patch ! Maybe Hartley for adamson? And lot off rooks up fwd,, but could be good cash generation ! Good luck and love your contribution too the community

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:28

    Thanks Fox! Hartley in consideration, but as I said rooks will be dealt with toward the last week of the NAB as we get a feel for who will play where.

West · 01/03/2016 at 15:35

love it Patch! Running with a similar structure at the moment.

I like the Johannisen, Tippett and Merrett picks but reckon it might be a bit too risky all in the same side

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:29

    Thanks mate – feel like I'm pushing too close to the cookie cutter already – if you don't take risks you don't break from the pack.

      West · 01/03/2016 at 16:36

      definitely not a cookie cutter side

Shane · 01/03/2016 at 15:51

It's nice to have a stacked midfield but it won't work. There's no way you will find 5 DEF rookies under $123K. The forward line is super weak as well. With the lack of obvious rookies right now F4 and D4 need to be much stronger and that has to come at the expense of the midfield.

    fox · 01/03/2016 at 15:54

    Very valid points

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:11

    Brown, Brown, Collins, Collins, Tucker, Broad, Byrne-Jones, Hartley and there are probably more that could play rd1.

      Derek · 01/03/2016 at 16:37

      its not about if they will play, its about CASH generation. playing is good, but if they are only managing 40-50pts a game, their cash generation is very limited. Midfield is where the cash will be made.

        Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:58

        That's my main worry in terms of defence.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:42

    The DEF rookies that actually make cash will be a struggle. I've got a few 250K players like Aish and McDonald I can try and scrounge cash for if need be, but the forward line is where most of the rookies are this year. I went two premos in the forward line last year and had a really solid base of mid scoring.

    Besides, rationale is it leaves me with an extra keeper in the midfield as opposed to two weaker players (like an Aish and a Menzel) at D4 & F4, which will save me trades in the long run.

      SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:51

      Love that your not spending money on a Simpkin/Aish type. Combine the two together to get a half decent player.

      Glorin · 01/03/2016 at 22:17

      Why wouldn't you go stronger in defence then and have 4 keepers. I have been trying to get a balance of keepers to F4 and d4 while having set and forget Rucks and 5 premo mid with libba at M6. It can't be done!
      If you feel that there is more money to be made in the forwards, spend in the backline. It will produce more points and save trades.
      Libba is the only mid pricer I am serious ly considering and I like the way my team looks without him but he is just too good value to leave out.

        DuckingTigers · 02/03/2016 at 11:45

        15 keepers plus Libba would indeed be a major achievement.

          TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 10:09

          Yeah I think a dozen or unlucky for some 13 is max keepers to start of with.

@jstorm311 · 01/03/2016 at 15:52

Love the excitement, trepidation, optimism and second guessing when it comes to initial starting squads that everybody gets at this time of year!
Really like that you've put your kahunas on the line with multiple PODs – definitely not shoal behaviour – moves that can & will set you apart from the pack.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:42

    Thanks JStorm! That's the plan – hopefully I end out in front and not falling behind

Jadyn · 01/03/2016 at 15:53

How are we all feeling about Nic Nat ?

    I N Pieman · 01/03/2016 at 16:12

    Gawn

    Rick Grimes · 01/03/2016 at 16:18

    Feeling real good about him. Think he's being overlooked. Smashed it last year when fully fit. Has had a proper preseason. I see a 110 average with some massive scores.

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 01/03/2016 at 16:20

    I had him my starting line up, but i think he will get some bigger scores after halfway through the season, better to start with gawn.

    Derek · 01/03/2016 at 16:38

    he might still become the best player in the competition.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:43

    Need to see him hit the park before I can say too much on him. I've got my eye on him though.

    Titan · 01/03/2016 at 17:21

    Had noc nat from the get go
    But just down traded goldy for gawn for cash

    LuskinStar · 01/03/2016 at 22:12

    I see him finishing top 3.

Korza · 01/03/2016 at 15:54

A great team. I too concur the forward light on approach is where this bloody thing will be won. The Johannisen selection up back, very nice.
If anything Quadzilla in favour of Shiel ? I have a similar structure, however with C. Ellis and Menadue both sitting beautifully at F3 and F4.
Best team i've seen from the Celebrity's. Sorry Lekdog.

KORZA

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 01/03/2016 at 16:29

    Agree, there is alot more thinking to this team than people realize. I garentee he has mapped a solid plan through out the year.
    I have the same structure for my starting team as well, with a few different players floating in the mix.
    Big midfield points, fast cash flow, and Massive Kahunas

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:47

    Thanks Korza! Lek's side is still evolving and I reckon by round one he will hit the thing like a steam train. Ellis at F3 is ballsy as anything, and I absolutely love it.

    The Quadzilla vs Sheil vs Parker cage fight is not over yet. Want to see Wines over his niggle first, but splitting the three is bloody hard.

MC · 01/03/2016 at 15:55

Love the Johannisen pick, have had him locked away since before NAB so hoping he remains a big POD

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:49

    Nice work from afar, MC. Well spotted

SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:05

Surely if MacPherson comes off the rookie list he is a lock, its not everyday a bargain basement rookies presents himself to play. Also with the Swallow injury, will that mean KK may get more of a run up the ground?

    Keenbutclueless · 01/03/2016 at 16:09

    The Swallow injury and JOM delay brings Lonergan back into our thoughts. Huge NAB 1. If he produces another one like that, we may have to consider. Also Lek's pick in Hall

      SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:14

      Yes! Forgetting about Hall, he may find his way into my side now, thanks for the reminder.

    LuskinStar · 01/03/2016 at 22:59

    Prior to NAB Suns said they intended to give MacPherson his opportunity. I expect him to get elevated

Afridi · 01/03/2016 at 16:07

As mentioned by the great shifterr sheehan. The crop of rookies this yr arent as quality as in past seasons. Having 6 all up backs/fwds huge risk. Will they be able to make decent $$ early??

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 16:51

    I'm banking on it. I have no trouble trusting the forward rookies to do their job – it's the backline where I'll struggle. I do have back up plans if backline rooks fall through, but hoping I don't need them

    Ethan017 · 01/03/2016 at 17:13

    Depends who they are
    Kerridge, Brown, Dea will generate you stacks of cash early

Steeeve · 01/03/2016 at 16:11

Love the team Patch, plum girth impressive. I've got a choice to make community…

DEF: KK, Bartel, Birchall, Weitering, M Brown, M Hartley (D Byrne-Jones, K Collins)
MID: Danger, Gaz, Rocky, Parker, Wines, Libba, Gresham, Gore (D Cunningham, T Phillips, D McPherson)
RUC: Goldy, Lobbe (Cox)
FWD: Dusty, Zorko, Wingard, Barlow, Kerridge, Petracca (Grimley, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

Here's the fun part: I have $200,000 left over.

Where should I look to upgrade?
I most recently downgraded B Smith to Weitering, thinking I may only be doing in 10 points per game on average (yet saving $200k). If Weitering can get me through to near the end of the season ala Saad/Oxley last year I'll be laughing.

I can go Lobbe to any other ruckman but still think he will get up around $450k and one of the premos will be down to $500k. Easy swap. I Keep thinking of Port's easy opening stretch.

What do you reckon?

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:26

    Get rid of Lobbe. Doesn't get enough touches around the ground. First 10 rounds he plays: Jacobs, Mummy, Nic Nat, Gawn and Martin

      Steeeve · 01/03/2016 at 16:41

      Haha I knew this would be the top answer. Feeling Nic Nat could be a bit of a pod given so many people are jumping on the big hairy cannibal.

      Derek · 01/03/2016 at 16:59

      i'm sticking with Lobbe for the same reason, who PORT play first 10 rounds.

        Steeeve · 01/03/2016 at 17:26

        It's very tempting, will depend where I feel better about spending the $200,000. Port have easy games but as pointed out above many of those weaker sides have top ruckmen.
        If you like the idea of keeping Lobbe how would you rather spend the 200k?

          Derek · 01/03/2016 at 18:05

          current team

          McVeigh, Laird, Bartel, Rich, Weitering, Brown (Byrne-Jones, Hartley)
          Fyfe, Danderfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rocky, Libba, Gresham, Maithieson (Keays, Phillips, MacPherson)
          Nic Nat, Lobbe (Wyatt)
          Dusty, Wingard, Barlow, Simpkin, Kerridge, Petracca (Grimley, McDon-T)

          $25k left

            SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:16

            You picking McVeigh even if he plays no pre season games?

            Steeeve · 01/03/2016 at 23:21

            Nice! Do you plan on getting Goldy? I'm not sure a Lobbe to Goldy upgrade will be possible. This aiming for Lobbe to Fawn/Blicavs/NicNat/Sauce. I figure one of those guys will have a couple of poor games and become affordable.

    @lewiswgrant · 01/03/2016 at 16:46

    Make Lobbe Gawn.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 17:08

    Not a fan of Lobbe, so I'd upgrade him to one of Gawn, NicNat, Stef Martin if you can or – if you're feeling lucky – Shane Mumford. I'd save the rest of the cash for the opening rounds' trades.

    Average Joe · 01/03/2016 at 18:07

    Haha have a very similar structure to you steve, had 200k left over and made the decision to downgrade a fwd premo and then upgrade a mid rookie into a premo. Personally I downgraded dahl to wells, and upgraded macpherson to Shiel but not sure about him as I still have 50k to choose a premo with. For you I would downgrade wingard to a mid pricer and upgrade macpherson to Gray, JPK etc depending on how much you have left over

      Steeeve · 01/03/2016 at 23:19

      Interesting! Will do the old screen shot current team and have a play around maneuver.

    Sana · 02/03/2016 at 12:19

    If Lobbe gets up to 450k and a premo drops to below 500k they'll be playing on a similar level making it a sideways trade. Lobbe not showing enough for mine.

      Steeeve · 02/03/2016 at 23:32

      True but not always. Only takes a first quarter injury for a big drop. That seems likely to happen to at least one out of five or six top rucks.

    Leeds17 · 03/03/2016 at 06:03

    Birchall to Laird and Weitering to a genuine mid pricer like Sheridan, Lonergan or Z Williams?

Gaveday · 01/03/2016 at 16:17

I just don't understand why the mid price hate from so many people.
This season, I believe, is the season of the mid pricer.
Too many valid options. Rookie cash can easily elevate these gems to ultra prems. (assuming 300-350k player hits 450-500k)

That's my bacon for now.

    Derek · 01/03/2016 at 16:44

    the problem with Mid-pricers, is there are so many of them. Even if it is the year of the Mid-pricer…which ones?

    I started with 5 mid-pricers last year. 1 was good, 1 was ok, and 3 were poor. I think that is about the average ratio!

      Johnny · 01/03/2016 at 17:07

      It's the year of the mid priced defender! Just make sure your mid pricers are coming from strong clubs and have good job security.

    jockreynolds · 01/03/2016 at 16:45

    Love a bloke willing to put his hand up and say HEY – I can see something that others are missing. Like your thinking Gave

    rosco72 · 01/03/2016 at 16:52

    Must admit it is very tempting but after getting burned last year I'm going guns and rooks this year with a heavy midfield.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 17:02

    If any year was to be the year, this would be it. There are a plethora I want to select, but I reckon I'd run out of trades trying to both upgrade them to keepers and handle injuries. Best of lack to anyone game enough to run that gauntlet though Gavey.

      Kev · 01/03/2016 at 19:10

      Agree Patch. Most of us were bloody shafted last year with LTI's in the first few weeks! Made a bloody hard to hang onto your trades towards the end. Can only imagine this would increase 10-fold with a midprice structure

        @randomcliche · 02/03/2016 at 00:44

        Ran out of trades with 5 weeks to go…..I'm a midprice madness suck (still got top 1%)….

          wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 10:16

          Yep we've all got a better chance of a weekly high score prize than winning the whole thing. Load up with midpricers and Trade trade trade

    Gaveday · 01/03/2016 at 20:52

    Thanx for the feedback Jock and co. But my mind is made up.

    Fortune favours the brave.

    I currently have 13 players between 450k and 243k

    Mike · 02/03/2016 at 08:41

    Because EVERY year is the year of the mid-pricer. Only it never is, and then it all ends in tears.

      Gaveday · 02/03/2016 at 11:29

      Not this year, this year sees genuine prems coming off injuries

Dasha · 01/03/2016 at 16:21

miills or parish?

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:34

    Tough one, keep watching nab to decide.

    Michael · 01/03/2016 at 17:36

    Lock in parish!

    Bobby Singh · 01/03/2016 at 21:12

    Leaning towards Mills.

    BlueBallsFC · 01/03/2016 at 21:28

    Mills easily

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 03/03/2016 at 19:46

    Crowley

SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:21

Top 10 fwds this year?

    Derek · 01/03/2016 at 16:49

    i can't see many outside the starting 8 highest priced players, with the exception of Barlow (current 12th most expensive)

    Of the next 8, Rioli could be one to look at, especially if his price drops in the early rounds.

      SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:54

      Would you think Hall, Smith or even Roo could make a charge? Heard Roo may be spending more time in the guts?

      Patch · 01/03/2016 at 17:05

      Salient pickup, Derek. If Rioli gets all 22 games together he could be dynamite. I legitimately think Tippett has the potential to be a top 10 forward if he gets a run in the ruck.

        DuckingTigers · 02/03/2016 at 12:31

        I think Tippett's scores have an inverse relationship to Buddy's. Ruck duties may change that for you, if you're lucky.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 02/03/2016 at 15:35

    I'm hoping (the package) stringer becomes a top 10 this year. But yeah top 6-8 as they pretty much r now.

General Soreness · 01/03/2016 at 16:51

Insightful!

ren · 01/03/2016 at 16:52

Matt Boyd and Weitering

OR

KK and Sheridan

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 17:04

    the second option for mine, ren

    @randomcliche · 02/03/2016 at 00:49

    Don't mind either at D3,D4 but definitely 1 if D4/d5.

SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 16:53

Hopefully young McCarthy get a fair crack. Has suffered injuries, but I'm telling you, if he lines up round 1 he's in my team. He is such an exciting young player unfortunately down at Geelong, their promising young players are all injury prone i.e Menzel, Vardy and McCarthy.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 17:03

    Hoping so too, Beast. Looked bloody good last weekend and if the Selwoods are going to have as much trouble as people suspect he will run through the middle. Really like the look of Menzel, too.

    DuckingTigers · 02/03/2016 at 12:40

    How could that be? I thought Stephen Wells was the doyen of list management with the Midas touch.

General Soreness · 01/03/2016 at 16:56

Got some fair sized plums on ya Patch with some of those calls, but all valid, reasoned and as valid as the next. Love it mate! With the exception of Tippett, averaged 78.9 at the SCG in 2015!

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 17:20

    Thanks General! He did score a 165 at the SCG last year, and 3 games were pre-Bye and pre his move to the ruck with Pyke. I'm not too worried about the venue change.

Ethan017 · 01/03/2016 at 17:13

Thoughts on Tommy Phillips??

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:20

    Need to see him play before I can touch him Ethan, but apparently he's quite the footballer. Very excited to see what he can do, but tough competition for spots at the Pies has me leaning away.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 12:50

      Playing on the weekend patch so we get our wish. 🙂

Ethan017 · 01/03/2016 at 17:13

None of that it's a community mate

LHMORWOOD · 01/03/2016 at 17:20

N.Naitanui or M.Gawn for R2

and

D.Wells or J.Anderson for F4

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 17:24

    Wait and see how Nic Nat goes.

    Average Joe · 01/03/2016 at 17:34

    Gawn and wells

    FootyFanatic · 01/03/2016 at 17:45

    Agree with SC Beast, also if you got an extra 20k id choose Daniel Menzel over the other two

Kaleb · 01/03/2016 at 17:21

Any opinions on draft 1000 are appreciated. Rookies are subject to change. $15k in the kitty. Cheers
Def; Laird, Macmillan, Rosa, Daniel Howe, Brown (ESS), Hartley (Broad, Collins)
Mid; Fyfe, Pendles, Gaz, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, Macaffer (Gresham, Gore, Mathieson)
Rucks; Goldy, Gawn (Grimley)
Fwds; Dusty, Barlow, Merrett, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Mccarthy, Hunt)

    Kaleb · 01/03/2016 at 17:22

    $1k*. Sorry

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 17:25

    Don't think Howe will get a lot of the ball (if he even plays)when hawks are fully fit.

    Average Joe · 01/03/2016 at 17:35

    Not sold on Rosa, don't think it will be worth it having him, maybe downgrade him to a rookie and upgrade howe to a premo

      Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:22

      I'm with Joe, Rosa worries me. Injury ridden and never averaged enough for my liking. Very different backline but the rest of it rock solid, Kaleb.

Michael · 01/03/2016 at 17:21

What are people's thoughts on kreuzer ?

    Average Joe · 01/03/2016 at 17:36

    Too injury prone, and haven't seen enough of him to warrant selection

      Dean · 02/03/2016 at 22:58

      $hit

Liam · 01/03/2016 at 17:27

Great team Patch.
What is your goal with the likes of JJ, Shiel, Tippett and Merrett ?
Are they going to be keepers ? Or are you going to move them on later in the year.
And one last thing, what are your thoughts on Sheridan and Montagna, do you see them doing well and warranting their price ?
Cheers Liam

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:26

    Gday Liam, thanks mate! I expect all four of them to be there at the end of the year still scoring for my side. If Tippett changes roles or looks vulnerable to a run of bad form, he may go, but the other three will not be traded unless LTI strikes. Shiel especially I think has the capability to break into a top 8 mid by season's end.

    Sheridan is bloody tempting. Every year Ross sits a 350K rebounding half back for us, and every year he stinks up the joint. That said, I reckon he's not a bad choice – you could do a lot worse. I expect an 85 average. Montagna is too expensive for me to start with, and is likely to miss games but based off last year's form I'd want him at some stage. I'll monitor as the season chuggs along. Cheers mate!

Average Joe · 01/03/2016 at 17:37

JPK > Gray?

    BKW · 01/03/2016 at 17:53

    Nah I'm picking Robbie to improve again this year – great pod

    Simmo6 · 01/03/2016 at 18:02

    I'm expecting port to be better than last year and Gray is my smoky for the Brownlow.. Think he's gonna have a huge year

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:28

    Gray has a big X factor, and as Simmo mentioned could take Charlie home this year. However, looking at the risks I've got in my side I opted for the stability of JPK – a 110-120 pretty much each week, all 22 games is exactly what my side is after looking at other picks. Depends on what you're after.

    I think both will end up with similar points for the year, but Gray will miss 2-3 and have a higher average.

    @randomcliche · 02/03/2016 at 00:56

    Gray doesn't have an injector hitting it down to him this season….JPK.

hedski · 01/03/2016 at 17:37

What are the communities thoughts on S.Gray vs Wingard? I'm starting to lean towards sammy. Cheers

    David · 01/03/2016 at 18:38

    Wingard all day

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:29

    Not a fan of paying 460K for a bloke who's played under 20 games. Don't see enough improvement from him to warrant the price tag. At 400k I'd have a closer look.

Average Joe · 01/03/2016 at 17:40

Gold Coast's Swallow injured again for half the season, hopefully we could see macpherson get upgraded

Liam · 01/03/2016 at 17:51

What option is better.
KK, Polkinghorne, Montagna
or
Byrne-jones, Pendles, Tippett ?

Thinking option 2 has more scoring potential, but option 1 has a better chance to get two keepers.
Please tell me your thoughts.

    PJ8 · 01/03/2016 at 19:07

    Option 2. I have none of the players in option 1

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:29

    Option two for mine.

Simmo6 · 01/03/2016 at 17:55

Very similar structure I am looking at it.. I like it.. What are your thoughts on this one

DEF
Laird, Smith, Aish, Brown (Ess), Hartley, (Collins (WBD), brown (WC), Adams)

MID
Fyfe, danger, Ablett, gray, Rockliff, Parker, liberatore, mills (Gresham, gore, Jansen)

RUCK
Goldstein, Martin (Cox)

FWD
Barlow, Zorko, Greene, menadue, McCarthy, kerridge (petracca, grimley)..

Any feedback would be appreciated guys!

    Ethan017 · 01/03/2016 at 18:02

    Looks pretty solid but I think you need to invest more in the backline. Laird and Smith will be taking points off each other so my advice would be to upgrade Smith and maybe downgrade Martin
    Good luck mate!

      Simmo6 · 01/03/2016 at 18:06

      Tossing up between smith and Yeo.. Just can't make a call.. I think smith could just give me headaches again like last year.

      Thanks mate

        Leeds17 · 03/03/2016 at 06:05

        Could you stretch to Bartel?

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:32

    G'day Simmo – think Aish at D3 is asking for trouble at some stage, and I'm not convinced Greene will score as well as we'd like, due to his woeful frees against column and shocking DE. Much prefer the Zach, or even De Goey over Toby. Aside from that, you're looking set!

      Simmo6 · 01/03/2016 at 22:40

      Thanks mate.. Not 100% sold on Aish.. Loved my mid set up though.. How do you think this looks.. Seems abit better balanced.

      Def
      Laird, yeo, smith, brown, Hartley, Collins (brown, Adams)

      Mid
      Fyfe, danger, Ablett, gray, Rockliff, liberatore, mills, Gresham (polkinghorne, gore, Jansen)

      Ruck
      Goldstein, Martin (grimley)

      FWD
      Martin, Zorko, barlow, wells, menadue, kerridge (McCarthy, petracca)

      Spewing I can't fit Parker, but offset upgrading Greene to Martin and Aish to yeo and cox to wells…

        Dean · 02/03/2016 at 23:12

        Simmo this is vital mate, put Grimley in your forward and get rid of McCarthy and put either Cox or Wyatt as your Ruck emergency this way you can swing Grimley/Wyatt or Cox to FWD/RUCK – this will generate you $37,000.

        Nice side.

Ethan017 · 01/03/2016 at 18:05

Thoughts

Backline
Laird, KK, Yeo, Brown (essendon), Dea, Byrne- Jones (broad, Bonner

Midfield
Fyfe, Danger, Ablett (c), JPK, Rocky, Libba, Crouch, Parish (Petracca, Keays, Mathieson)

Rucks
Goldy, Smith (Grimley)

Forward
Martin, Wingard, Barlow, Menadue, Simpkin, Kerridge (Cox, Phillips)

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:14

    If that's Zac Smith, I think you are in trouble.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:33

    Z. Smith a big POD – like him more than Lobbe. Make sure you keep an eye on him but could be stellar for you. Keep an eye on Crouch's progress, too. I'd want to see a full game from him before picking him.

      Ethan017 · 02/03/2016 at 18:20

      thanks for that I've downgraded Goldstein to Martin and upgraded Smith to Gawn
      Also what are your thoughts on Jacob Weitering? I have enough in the bank to upgrade Dea to him is it worth the risk?

FootyFanatic · 01/03/2016 at 18:06

I like your team Patch, I also like your structure as I haven't seen many teams with the same one. I'm not starting with Goldy either, his overpriced in my eyes and should drop in price early with Jacobs, Martin, Gawn and Sandilands being his first 4 opponents.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:35

    Thanks Fanatic! I'm not thinking about Goldy at all – my team looks better with that extra 100k around the ground and I'm not aiming to get him in, as there won't be enough cash generation that early to take advantage of the price drop.

Mighty_Hondo · 01/03/2016 at 18:12

Hi community, would love your feedback on my team so far. Wondering if too ,many rooks/ They are of course subject to change pending rnd 1 selections.

BCK: Houli Laird Sheridan Wietering Hartley Adamson (Tucker Collins)

MID: Fyfe Danger Pendles Ablett Priddis Rocky Libba Petracca (Hewett Matheison Macpherson)

RUK: Martin Gawn (Cox)

FWD: Barlow Gray Merret Kerridge M Brown (Ess) Long (Grimley Skinner)

39k in the bank

will hopefully pick up goldy on the gamble his price will drop a fair bit.

Thanks, I'll be relying on ur views!

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:13

    so your going to waste a trade on a premium ruck just to get goldy? if you went 2 premos who aren't Goldy, why waste a trade to get him? May as well get Lobbe and use the cash elsewhere? Premo's are picked to stay in your team the whole season.

      Mighty_Hondo · 01/03/2016 at 20:28

      Cheers Beast, that's a v good point. I'll re-think the Goldy scenario..

    Holty · 01/03/2016 at 19:36

    i think if you are starting these 2 rucks, Goldy shouldnt be a option. If you want goldy, find that extra cash and start him. Team looks solid. Still concerned about all ths rookie defenders but as from all the other replies above, seems the opinion is very mixed so who knows if it is right or wrong.

David · 01/03/2016 at 18:17

Nice team i like the risk factor break away from the norm
My question is who hear is thinking of going Tippet this year?
Ave 115 in the last 10 games last year for me will spend a fair amount of time in the ruck as i dont rate Sinclair
Would be handy in the forward line as great backup if a ruckman goes down
Thoughts?

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:11

    I think Tippet went well when Franklin was out if I recall. Very risky selection. Make or break selection

Mighty_Hondo · 01/03/2016 at 18:21

Nice call on Tippet Patch…I had him in after seeing yours as that would get rid of Cox in my team and I'd move Grimley to R3…Dunno how much of a risk he is though. Just saw ur comment about his SCG avg though…He may be the go yet…would probably drop out Merret…

Deccas · 01/03/2016 at 18:36

Love your stuff Patch, love the johannisen pick. Tippett avg. 77.4 in the first 2/3 of the season. Buddy wasn't there for the last part of the season where tippett avg. 118 and he had the freedom as the main big tall. Whereas now buddy is back!! Risky i reckon!!

Danners · 01/03/2016 at 18:39

As Higgo would say that is a "significant" structure Patch. Merrett looked good and in my side at F4. A big call on the forward line premos, any of them could have a great year or bad year. Otherwise good team

FootyFanatic · 01/03/2016 at 18:39

Anyone notice a pattern with the highest averaging rucks over the past 6 years?
2016 ?
2015 Goldy
2014 Jacobs
2013 Minson
2012 Naitanui
2011 Cox
2010 Sandilands
That's why I'm starting with Gawn and Martin

    It's johnny · 01/03/2016 at 19:08

    I'm going with Gawn he is going to have a fantastic season

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:10

    I like your stats, but it is sort of hard to see how Goldy will fall from his throne. But then again, it's possible.

      Holty · 01/03/2016 at 20:09

      plus this is going by averages. Total score over the year would be interesting and as Goldy doesnt miss to many games, im sure he would be in the top couple every year.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:38

    Significant mate. Very significant. Reckon Goldy has the best chance of keeping the throne since Cox monstered the position pre-2010, mind you.

      FootyFanatic · 01/03/2016 at 21:26

      I gotta agree with you there Patch, Goldy is definitely the number 1 ruckman in the Comp at the moment. But if this recent trend continues he may not be #1 at the end of the year.

    Harvey · 02/03/2016 at 20:16

    Mumford Gawn Martin or even Blicavs

AverageAdsy · 01/03/2016 at 18:47

What does the community think of a Goldy/Nic Nat ruck combo?

    'Don't Blush Babbie' · 01/03/2016 at 19:09

    I did but I changed from Nic Nat to Gawn only because it freed up about 10k that I needed elsewhere

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:10

    Looks good, just got to watch Nic Nat in the nab, if he fails, easy downgrade to Gawn.

    AverageAdsy · 01/03/2016 at 19:58

    cheers fellas, just feeling a bit one from Nic Nat this year, even though he doesn't get heaps of touches he also is a pretty high scorer.

    Steeeve · 01/03/2016 at 23:24

    If I pass on Lobbe it will likely be for Goldy and NicNat combo. Reckon NicNat will have a ripper year, considering his strength is hit outs to advantage which score big.

Michael · 01/03/2016 at 18:48

Haven't seen much of L.McCarthy from Geelong but a few people seem to be selecting him. Can someone give me the info i need on this guy. Should i be looking at him?

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:09

    He's a gun. Been injury riddled so hasn't played as much. If he's playing round 1, he's in my team. He is an excitement machine.

SC16 · 01/03/2016 at 18:52

best rookies for 250-102k? already got petracca and kerridge

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:27

    Weitering, M.Brown, D.Byrne-Jones, Gresham, Mills, Parish, Mathieson, MacPherson, Menadue, Ellis

    Probably forgetting a few, just off the top of my head.

      SC16 · 01/03/2016 at 20:53

      cheers mate

JOHNNY · 01/03/2016 at 18:56

How is my team looking fairly happen with it but open to suggestions
KK johannisen, smith, wietering, k.collins, m.brown: m.hibbered, bonner
Danger, Pendles, abblet, JPK, gaff, Rockliff, Libba, b.crouch: gore, macpherson, long
Gawn, lobbe: cox
Zorko, wingard, Barlow, Menzel, petracca, kerridge: kommer, wyatt

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:26

    Very light defence and packed midfield. I would personally get rid of crouch and gaff for rookies, upgrade lobbe and smith.

      Pete · 01/03/2016 at 22:19

      Love the Gaff call mate

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:57

    Gaff an interesting one – thoughts behind him? LIke the Menzel pick, both Zorko and Wingard is ballsy.

      Thom · 04/03/2016 at 11:42

      Why do you think Zorko is ballsy?
      Thoughts on Jack Martin this year?

neil · 01/03/2016 at 19:00

Imust be the odd one out. I thinkyour book ends are awfull. .Iwould keep laird and start again .Iwould also do the samein fwds keeping barlow.rucks/mids great

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:08

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Patch has just gone for a different tactic. That's that game. It's all tactics. There is not necessarily a right or a wrong way to go about planning/structuring a team. Patch has gone out on a limb, hoping to get an advantage with different players (point of differences). Good luck to him.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:40

    They're certainly not conventional! The rucks and mids are great because I've scamped and saved at either end. If I had another few million I'd fix them up, but in lieu of extra cash from SCHQ, I feel this will give me the best shot at making as many points as I can from day dot.

Michael · 01/03/2016 at 19:00

Merrett or Tippet?
I have Grimley as r3.

Thoughts?

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 19:23

    Merrett

    Vindude · 01/03/2016 at 19:45

    I think Merrett too, more cos hoping he has a breakout year – he has all the opportunity to do so. Maybe get Cox on the bench so that you can swap if need be.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:56

    Merrett

Vindude · 01/03/2016 at 19:40

Great work Patch, i think its a solid team – nice pick there with Johanessen, agree with the fact that he is going to be a better pick than a Yeo. I see you have Menadue, but how about B Kennedy for a few more $$ ? He's been killing it so far in pre-season, and job security no longer a worry as it was the case when he was with the Pies.
Thoughts appreciated,
Cheers everyone!

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:40

    As I said mate, rookies aren't set. Kennedy has two weeks to state his case, and I've absolutely got my eye on him!

ren · 01/03/2016 at 19:47

Is Goldy 100% locked into most sides?

Just having 2 550k plus players can make your other lines so much stronger

    Phil · 01/03/2016 at 22:00

    Goldy is so locked in my team, that for anyone who has ever worked on a mine site and seen those big locks which have about 6 padlocks on them, I have one of those around Goldys legs….actually around his arm, his right arm, the one he used to palm the ball down his teammates throat….So yeah, he's locked.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 01/03/2016 at 22:06

    The way i look at it where r u going to spend the extra $. If u can put it to good use then go for it. But for my team structure its a no.
    For me i have gawn and goldy so it would be goldy down to martin (as he is the only other ruckman i would consider) for $100k more to spend.
    Pretty much got 3 set in def so it would be weithering up to? No one really jumping out at $320k. Maybe Sheridan but then i have to find another $40k.
    6 set in mids with crouch maybe at m7. No one i really want at $400k. If i went up from crouch i would want to go up to at least duncan.
    fwds i want barlow and wingard and stringer my breakout (backing my gut here). If i went up from stringer it would be to dusty but need more than $100k to do this.
    Looking at wells, menzel, simpkin as f4 so this is where i would use the $100k to go up to de goey or bird. But don't see them scoring that much more than my current f4.

    so based on my structure cant warrant going down from goldy to martin.

    but all depends on your structure and how u use the extra funds.

Tom · 01/03/2016 at 19:49

De Goey or Sheridan?

I know theyre in different lines but who do we think will have a better year?

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:55

    I think Sheridan would be a better pick considering the dearth down back this year, and the need to make space for forward rookies. However, I really rate De Goey as a player and think he'll approach – but not quite reach – both 500k and keeper status this year. Depends on your side.

Marcus · 01/03/2016 at 19:51

Thoughts on alex rance

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:44

    Coach Kings god. Will have games where he scores poorly and will drop in price. When he's floating around 430k, I'll look at picking him up, but don't like paying over 500k for any defender, let alone a key defender!

      Marcus · 01/03/2016 at 21:46

      Thanks mate

Throttlefinger · 01/03/2016 at 20:13

Like splashing cold water on the face this squad is Patcheroo!

Love the chances you're taking here. My concern would be the number of high risk PODs. Or what I would call "going too shark". Think your logic on each pick is sound and it could work. But going slightly less POD heavy may make your journey as exciting without as many hangovers. Just my annoying 2 cents.

Again brilliant squad and thinking, my friend.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:43

    Cheers Throttlefinger! Great to hear from you mate! It's always the danger – how many PODs are too many PODs? I may stray back into safety before round one, but would rather die wondering than sit in the shoal for 23 rounds. Look forward to clashing with the Throtts-a-lots this year!

      throttlefinger · 01/03/2016 at 22:07

      Very true, my man.

      Look forward to squaring up with this wild bunch!

Beagz · 01/03/2016 at 20:14

Outstanding mate. Best team I've seen posted so far and not just because it's almost identical to mine. The balance between risk, hope and proven scoring is perfect and exactly what we need this year. My only question is around Johanisen. I'm guessing your hope is that he slowly takes over as the controlling back and for the dogs and I just don't think he's next in line for it.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:46

    Cheers Beagz!

    It's a tricky question on JJoh. I have little doubt he'll play a big role for the dogs running out of the backline over the next few years, but am worries I might be jumping the gun. Boyd and Bob are still on that half back line, as are Liam Picken and Easton Wood. He's going to be closely monitored, and is by no means locked away.

      Chief · 01/03/2016 at 22:00

      Will suckling be competing for the same role as jj?

        Beagz · 02/03/2016 at 12:37

        I think Suckling will be playing more as a defending winger sort of role rather than the running role like murph and boyd have played.

Liam · 01/03/2016 at 20:15

Thoughts? thanks in advance.

DEF: Laird, Bartel, Birchall, Weitering, Brown, Bonner (Collins, Hartley)

MID: Danger, Gaz, JPK, Rockliff, Ellis, Libba, Parish, Gresham (Keays, Mathieson, Gore)

RUC: Goldy, Stef Martin (loersch)

FWD: Dusty, Barlow, Stringer, Greene, Kerridge, Petracca (Grimley, Adams)

    tophawk · 01/03/2016 at 20:22

    Very good side Liam. A few PODS thrown in as well. I like your stringer and Ellis picks. Both could go big this year.

    Cheers

      Liam · 01/03/2016 at 20:46

      Thanks tophawk

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:51

    That is a very nice side, mate. Love the PODs of Stringer and especially Ellis, who no-one has mentioned thus far this year. I'm not sold on Greene as I've mentioned a couple of times; DE and FAs will hurt him. However I really rate this side.

tophawk · 01/03/2016 at 20:16

Nice side Patch. Quite a few similarities to my team. I love the Johanissen pick. I have in my side also.

Here is my current team;

def: Shaw, Laird, Johanissen, Weitering, M. Brown (Ess), Hartley (Byrne-Jones, Tucker)

mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Liberatore, B.Kennedy, Kerridge (Gresham, Mathieson, Mc Pherson)

ruc: Naitanui, Gawn (Grimley)

fwd: D.Martin, Dahlhaus, Barlow, D.Menzel, Milera, L.McCarthy (Petracca, M.Cox)

Any thoughts appreciated. Cheers

    SC_Beast · 01/03/2016 at 20:39

    You plan on getting in Goldy?

      tophawk · 01/03/2016 at 21:35

      Yes SC. But not just yet though. At 695K he is just too expensive. He has some tough ruck opponents first up.

      Rd 1: Jacobs
      Rd 2: S.Martin
      Rd 3: Gawn
      Rd 4: Sandilands

      Goldy will have to earn his points in the first month of the season. I hope that by round 5/6 his break even will stabilise/bottom, and I can then snap him up for around 595K. Just a calculated risk on my part SC beast! Tophawk

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 01/03/2016 at 22:22

        Hey tophawk little food for thought. Goldys scores against those 4 opponents last year.
        Jacobs – 100 was in rd 1 only one to score a 100 in rd 1 before they re-evaluated the ruck scoring system
        Martin – avg 140
        Gawn – 155
        Sandi – 116

        So may not go down as far as you think probably might drop to $650k or not at all because if he repeats those scores he will make his average.

        as i said just something to consider.

          tophawk · 02/03/2016 at 10:03

          I am hearing ya!

          Wow, I didnt realise he monstered all of those blokes last season. Looks like it may be more risky not to have him in round one, vs try the grab him later at a 100K discount strategy. Cheers mate.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:52

    Lovely mate! Proceed with caution on Dahl, but love that you've gone Menzel. Everyone wants to go there (including yours truly) but no-one has actually picked him. Very nice work!

Boris Baconbeer · 01/03/2016 at 20:24

Don't see much comment or many ppl with loophole player in their team. What's the story morning glory? I am going with a Melbourne loop since the Sunday games they play

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 21:04

    A lot of waiting to see what rookies emerge before we start playing with loophole players, Boris. That'll be a discussion I have post NAB4.

    BKW · 02/03/2016 at 08:21

    Yep Melb and blues appear best for loopholling – I'll likely use R3 as my donut for loopholling

Stevo · 01/03/2016 at 20:26

One of, if not the best team Ive seen so far this season Patch. Brilliantly balanced team that I can see you going far with this year. Thoughts on my team would be appreciated community.

DEF: Laird, Bartel/Docherty, McGovern, Aish/Howe, M.Brown, Hartley, (Collins, Collins)
MID: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Gray, Rocky, Libba, Mills/Parish, Gresham, (Gore, Petracca, Keays)
RUCK: Goldy, Gawn, (Loersch)
FWD: Dusty, Barlow, Smith, Wells, McCarthy, Kerridge, (Hunt, Adams)

35.7k left. Few question marks on who should be my D4 and F4. Rookies are obviously subject to selection and form.

    Liam · 01/03/2016 at 20:31

    Absolutely tremendous stevo, really proud of your efforts mate keep going

      Stevo · 02/03/2016 at 06:08

      Thank mate. Lot of blood, sweat and (mainly) tears have gone into this one.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 21:06

    LOVE the McGovern call – really wanted to pick him but couldn't squeeze him in. Aside from that, I do like that team; Robbie Gray a notable standout in the middle there.

      Stevo · 02/03/2016 at 06:07

      Appreciate it Patch. The McGovernor is irresistible this year with Brown and Mckenzie back in the Coasters backline.

    Risso · 01/03/2016 at 21:11

    Wells is a lock IMO

      Stevo · 02/03/2016 at 06:08

      If he can get his body right, in for a good season.

    Shake n bake · 02/03/2016 at 12:16

    Had McGovern since day 1 will play higher up the ground as will Hurn great choice, but let's keep it alittle quite! Good luck.

      Stevo · 02/03/2016 at 20:18

      Love your thinking bro. Think he will be in top 8 defenders this year. Good luck!

Kegzlegs · 01/03/2016 at 20:28

Spot of bother community

Wines is said to have a groin issue (still early days and I haven't seen it anywhere I'd write home about)

I currently have him in the guts, I also have Blicavs and Nic Nat as R1 and R2

I want Stefan Martin

SHOULD I out wines who might have an injury in a team I don't see doing very well this year to have three ruckman one being Blicavs in the middle?

Is this insane or brilliant, I realise one ruc mid does not make a DPP swing set unless there is an injury but I don't plan on moving anybody on! Does this take a valuable spot in the middle or does it set my team apart from the others?

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 21:11

    Absolutely would set your team apart, Kegz. By the end of the year it could be a problem – I personally don't see Blicavs averaging as much as the top 10 mids. What you could do is ride a cash cow ruck (Smith, Stanley, Nicholls) as a cash cow and swap for a fallen mid just before the byes, swinging Blicavs into the ruck, which is supreme usage of DPP that would make Higgo extraordinarily proud.

    That doesn't answer your Stefan Martin problem, however. I personally wouldn't select Blicavs, Nic Nat and Stef in the one side – if one of them was also a forward I'd lock it in, but think long term you'd lose 5-10ppg on Blicavs as a mid. Love your thinking though mate, that's beautiful

    Holty · 01/03/2016 at 21:43

    I think picking anyone in round 1 who you think might have a bit of a niggle is silly. So many other choices who you know is 100% so why risk it. I honestly believe Wines is fit and just got destroyed by Viney. Dont know where this groin issue has come from but imo, it is only the NAB Cup and if he was having issues, why would they play him?

    Phil · 01/03/2016 at 22:09

    I don't think it's stupid at all buddy…The games changing and rucks are becoming as important as MiDS. I'd almost bet my house that if Blicavs finished 2nd overall for ruckman he would also finish top8 for MIDS.

      Blakeyp · 02/03/2016 at 10:18

      I like Blicavs but he will not be a top 8 MID

Kev · 01/03/2016 at 20:28

Few personnel I'm not keen on, but I really, really like your structure Patch. You'll fly out of the gates with that stacked midfield so you should be able to carry the fwd/def rooks as they typically earn cash slower than their midfield counterparts.

Years gone by I've talked myself into value midprice selections on the back of good nab cup form and they've crashed and burned.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 21:13

    Thanks mate – I'm not worried about fwd mids this year, defence is where my concerns are.

Ethan017 · 01/03/2016 at 20:30

feel free to join my league
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Keano96 · 01/03/2016 at 20:33

Hey guys, any thoughts on my team would be greatly appreciated!
REM Salary- $4,300.

Def: Rance, Laird, Bartel, Weitering, M.Brown, Hartley (Bonner, Hibberd)

Mid: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, JPK, Rocky, Parish, Kerridge, Petracca (Gore, Mathieson, Clarke)

Ruck: Goldy, Gawn (Cox)

Fwd: Deledio, Dusty, Barlow, Simpkin, B.Kennedy, Milera (Grimley, McCarthy)

    Risso · 01/03/2016 at 21:09

    Like it, but would leave out Lids as will be managed through the season.

      'Don't Blush Babbie' · 01/03/2016 at 21:53

      agree Z.Merrett is my pick

    hedski · 01/03/2016 at 23:49

    Very good team keano. No Libba?

    Leeds17 · 02/03/2016 at 06:08

    Like Rance Laird Bartel, personally would be looking for a break out midpricer a for D4 Sheridan, Z Williams, Lonergan ect but that's just me.

    If you were to drop lids for a more reasonable priced player Parish could become Libba

    Knit picking a bit, I like this team

    dustbin feltchers · 02/03/2016 at 23:50

    like your team mate..no libba though??

wombatsfc · 01/03/2016 at 20:35

Brilliant Patch.
The first and only team that I've seen this year that is actually based on the primary skill of the game, TRADING.
You can almost paint the fence to full onfield premo by the end of the byes with that squad BUT, I'll get there the week before that.
Good luck mate and kudos for revealing your strategy to everybody.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 21:20

    The race is on, Wombats! Best of luck to you mate!

      wombatsfc · 01/03/2016 at 23:01

      I've got your boyfriend at F4, Rock M6 and Libba M8 and apart from the rucks I reckon I've got you covered until my trade addiction kicks in. I reckon wietering will match johannisen but I don't have either, yet. If wietering backs it up he'll be locked

Patch · 01/03/2016 at 20:36

Haha sorry Gord! Well done on picking him up – he's not the safest pick, and will have crap games, but I'm quietly confident he'll do what we need him to do.

Dave2008 · 01/03/2016 at 20:46

D Laird KK Birchall Yeo B Smith M Brown (Ess) Collins Hartley
M Pendles Ablett Parker Rockcliff Libba Parish B Kennedy Greasham Kerridge Keays Cunningham
R Goldy Nic Nat King
F Martin Zorko Barlow Wells Petracca Grimley Kommer Cox

I have thrown it around a lot but this is the current draft.
Any thoughts most appreciated.

Mighty_Hondo · 01/03/2016 at 20:47

Joel Selwood…Is he an gamble this year?

    West · 01/03/2016 at 20:58

    might not be ready round 1 so would stay away for now.

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 21:21

    From what I've heard he is a massive gamble. Normally I'd flock to a guy who's averaged 120 at 550K, but something just doesn't seem right about him – he needs to get his head and body right, then I'll look at him.

Liam · 01/03/2016 at 20:52

What does everyone see Goldy averaging ?
Had him locked away but thinking Martin with Gawn could be the way to go.
What's everyones thoughts

    wombatsfc · 01/03/2016 at 20:59

    Martin has NicNat, Goldy, Smith,Nicholls,Bullys, Swans, Lobbe first Seven weeks
    Gawn has Mummy,Bombers, Goldy,Pies,Maric,Saints,Nicholls
    Gawn could be 50k more expensive than Martin after 7 and he doesn't share the bye with Goldy. Could be why he's such a popular choice.

      Liam · 01/03/2016 at 21:25

      What are your thoughts on Goldy ?
      Is he in your team ?

        TRIGGER HAPPY · 01/03/2016 at 22:25

        I think he will go close to getting the same average as last year.

        wombatsfc · 01/03/2016 at 22:49

        No Liam I don't have Goldy at the moment Gawn is my R1 to enable Rocky M6 and Libba M8.
        I've got big max the 7foot wombat and the angry Pom as R1 and 2. Big athletic angry blokes love tackling smartarse midfielders and, taps plus tackles added to marks and disposals = big points. Martin is in the same category but he's a bit pricey and has an unfortunate bye. I have enough cash to turn Smith into NicNat if he doesn't deliver but if he does deliver that cash could turn him into Goldy well before the byes.

Holty · 01/03/2016 at 21:02

good work patch. love your work you do for the community. my only concern with your team is the backline. plenty of rookies which is fine. im sure you will find a few starting round 1 but will they still be there round 3? if you can keep this structure and still have 6 defenders playing every week early, i can see you scoring plenty of points early f om your midfield. Love the rest of your team though and good luck for the season

    Patch · 01/03/2016 at 21:23

    Cheers Holty. As I've mentioned, my backline rookies are my biggest concern with this side. I need to be assured I will still have them there going into the byes, and if I'm not a painful restructuring is in order.

Risso · 01/03/2016 at 21:02

Haven't seen Conca's name mentioned much. He is nearly a lock for mine. They love him down at Punt Rd (played him in a final underdone last year) and IMO is a steal at $284. Might fall into some peoples mid priced madness category but will make as much cash as most rookies and a good then a good upgrade to ultra premium

    Danners · 01/03/2016 at 21:48

    Probably average a similar amount to some of the top tier rookies so I would save $160k to use elsewhere

Youngy · 01/03/2016 at 21:17

Got rid of Seedsman, I see, good move.

Nicko · 01/03/2016 at 21:36

Would appreciate some feedback lads:

Laird, Langdon, Rampe, Weitering, M Brown (West coast), Hartley
Byrne jones, Collins

Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Hannebury, rockliff, liba, B Crouch, Mills,
Gresham, Cunningham, mathieson

Goldy, Gawn, Cox

Barlow, Bell, merrett, milera, Kerridge, m brown,
Petracca, hammelman

    Blueprime · 01/03/2016 at 22:09

    For $100 Tippett for Bell and you have a ruck swing.
    I would sell Mills. He is good but overpriced, move Kerridge to mids as a swing, buy L McCarthy for forwards and bank the $72400.00 difference.

      Nicko · 01/03/2016 at 23:07

      Valuable thoughts. Thanks for that, will look into those players.

        Blueprime · 01/03/2016 at 23:47

        McCarthy is a gun. I would expect him to outscore Mills by 10-20 points.

kyle · 01/03/2016 at 21:36

goldstein / lobbe and b.smith
or
martin / gawn and weitering

    BKW · 02/03/2016 at 08:26

    Probably option 2 (although Goldy is my fav player of the lot!)

Harry · 01/03/2016 at 21:50

Patch I love it. Funnily enough I'm with you on Tippett. He's my R2 and my plan is to eventually rotate him FWD and get Goldstein in when I can. I just think Tippett is up for a lot of ruck time this year. I'm torn between Merrett and Billings. I also think Viney and Zaharakis are great PODs this year but have not found a way to squeeze them in

Jordan · 01/03/2016 at 21:50

Who is the better pick johanison, McGovern or Brodie smith

    Jordan · 01/03/2016 at 21:58

    Also will Mumford play round 1????!!

      BKW · 02/03/2016 at 08:27

      I wouldn't pick Mummy – you'll be trading him out when he gets injured at some point

B-T · 01/03/2016 at 21:58

Nice team Patch,

This year for me will be a Guns n Rookies setup.

In previous years D4 & F4 running mid price has let me down so this year it will be rookies in these positions.

Cheers,

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 16:40

    Cheers B-T. Survived last year with Salem at F3, so have no problem putting faith in rooks at F&D4 – as long as they will play!

LuskinStar · 01/03/2016 at 22:06

Good team Patch. Like players that finish the season strongly but Tippet got under my guard. Took a vow to only change rookies during NAB so am resigned to starting without him. Dont see whatever it is you see in Johannison but you are a better judge than me so it will probably work out. I do reckon you have missed the number 2 and 3 ruckman though.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 16:38

    Johannisen needs to repeat that to stay there. Sticking with a team from before the NAB cup is a big call, and not one I'd be able to make!

Goose · 01/03/2016 at 22:12

My side as of now (Rookies obviously going to change):

BACKS: Laird, Bartel, Birchall, Hartley, Hibberd, Broad (Brown, Collins)
MIDS: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Ward, Rockliff, Liberatore, Mills or Parish, Gresham (Jansen, Freeman, Keays)
RUCKS: Goldy, Gawn (Wyatt)
FWDS: Dusty, Dahlhaus, Barlow, Wells, Simpkin, Kerridge (Menadue, Petracca)

Pretty happy with how it's shaping up at this stage, thoughts?

    Jambo · 01/03/2016 at 23:17

    Jibbed has played no games yet in the NAB. I reckon place him on your watch list for now. I reckon look at replacing Wells with Duggan. Love your bold ruck selections but will Goldstein score 120+ every week. Well, unlikely. In the second half of last year, North Melbourne enjoyed an easy run home and Goldstein benefited hugely. I reckon look at Grundy from the Pies. It looks like the Pies are primed to announce their arrival as a powerhouse to the rest of the competition.

      Jambo · 01/03/2016 at 23:18

      Hibberd not jibbed

    Keenbutclueless · 01/03/2016 at 23:28

    The only question is 3 backline rookies on field. For and against, but generally they score less and take longer to make cash. Think about turning Wells or Simpkin into a mid price D4 like Aish, McDonald or Fantasia.

Hally · 01/03/2016 at 22:16

Hey community, any feedback on my team would be much appreciated
DEF: M. Boyd, Laird, K. Kolo, Sheridan, M. Brown, R. Bonnet (M. Hartley, K. Collins)
MID: Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Wines, Libba, Mills, Freeman (B. Keays, R. Mathieson, M. Hibberd)
RUCK: Nic Nat, Gawn (S. Grimley)
FWD: Dusty, Dahlhaus, Barlow, Simpkin, S. Kerridge, C. Petracca (M. Cox, J. Long)
55.6k left in the kitty and majority of rookies will be changed once I put more research in
Thanks

    Keenbutclueless · 01/03/2016 at 23:23

    Would really only look at changing Priddis to Fyfe. Could also use to put Kennedy/Milera/Menadue into your F5. Move Petracca into mids instead of Freeman. Gives you the mid/fwd swing. Rest is rock solid.

Cyril is delicious · 01/03/2016 at 22:31

I'm in need of help with a few selections community:
Laird or Shaw?
Daulhouse or Barlow?
Brodie Smith or Sheridian?

Cheers!!

    Cozza · 01/03/2016 at 22:46

    Laird, Barlow, Sheridan

      Derek · 01/03/2016 at 23:18

      Laird, Barlow and smith

        Marcus · 02/03/2016 at 19:03

        Agree

      BKW · 02/03/2016 at 08:29

      This, but Dahl/Barlow is coin flip

Shak · 01/03/2016 at 22:46

Thoughts on Jack Viney as a potential POD?

    dwhits · 02/03/2016 at 16:48

    I currently have him in my side, coming into his fourth year, if he stays fit he should average over 100 easily, tackling machine

      Shak · 02/03/2016 at 19:29

      Awesome!

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 16:40

    I know some within the inner sanctum are toying with Jack Viney, and with good reason. His back half of 2015 was staggering. I'm wary of him returning to a tagging role, but he could go 105+ this year if Melbourne get a good run at it.

tttt · 01/03/2016 at 22:53

Rate my team guys:

Def: Laird,K.Simpson,J.Bartel, T.Sheridan, M.brown, Hartley (M.hibberd,n.broad)
Mid: Fyfe, dangerfield,ablett,rockliff,parker,libba,mills,greesham (3xrookies)
Ruck: S.martin, Nic Nat
Fwds: D.martin,barlow,zorko,milera,pettraca, kerridge

Also nic nat or maxy gawn?

    SC_Beast · 02/03/2016 at 07:14

    Too early to call, gotta see Nic Nat in action.

Jambo · 01/03/2016 at 23:09

Your midfield and ruck selection is rock solid, Patch. Your forward line, I don't mind. However, I'm scared looking at your lean defence. Granted, one must be bold enough to succeed but yikes, too many risks. Stick with Laird, Bartel and Brown though. I would consider taking another risk instead of Johnanssen, consider Zac Williams from GWS. Good job security, I reckon has some upside and POD.

    SC_Beast · 02/03/2016 at 07:14

    Johanassen is in the same boat as Williams? Good JS and could break out this year. Nothing wrong with the Johanassen selection

Mjc · 02/03/2016 at 00:08

Godda ask ya'll? Back line is the toughest position this year. So who is the most reliable backman, granted Shaw's to expensive and Mcveigh hasn't played any pre games. Is it trusty old Enright?….

Michael · 02/03/2016 at 00:14

Thats my team if you have any tips i would love to hear them

Def – Docherty, Yeo, Johannisen, Smith, S Collins, Tucker, (Bonner, K Collins)
Mid – Fyfe, Ablett, Priddis, JPK, Rocky, Liberatore, Parish, Gresham, (Petracca, Cuningham,Mathieson)
Ruck – Goldy, Martin (Cox)
Fwd – Martin, Barlow, Greene, Ellis, Kerridge, Grimley, (Hunt, Brown)
With 35k in the bank

    Mjc · 02/03/2016 at 00:20

    Change d1 or d2, both are iffy calls I'd look at at leas one proven performer for that spot or spots.

@Da_Mad_Irishman · 02/03/2016 at 00:32

Love this side Patch – I have a very similar structure right now, without some of your left field basly picks. My side looks like a shoal side next to yours.
Unique picks I like
Laird – not in many sides and a shoe in top 10 defender – could go top 6 this year
Shiel – not sure he's all that unique but 110 looming in a Giants side that will make top 8 (sneaky top 4 if Mummy plays 22 rounds)
Gawn – my persistence with Naitanui is the only reason why this man is not R2 – i know if i don't pick Naitanui he'll average 120 this season. By picking him, he'll be injuried by round 5 and i'll be cursing myself that I didn't pick Gawn
Merrett – didn't have the balls to select him – is he a top 10 fwd is my only concern – you pick you got to keep him for the year – i hope for you he is

Was surprised to see Tippet but after hearing your reason I nearly put him in my side. Love when these left field picks pay off and will be rooting for Tippet early in the season for you

Best of luck and once again – awesome side

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 16:42

    Cheers Mick! Massive praise coming from you. Massive Mad Irishman influence on this side too.

mick944 · 02/03/2016 at 01:37

any reason why no Pendles mate? I can't bring myself to start a season without the reliable Pendles….

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 16:43

    He's in a cage fight with Danger for M2. I've seen Danger play and I haven't seen Pendles yet. Could still swap, but need to see where he fits into the new Collingwood midfield. I assume he is the linchpin, but want to see that first.

Tom McV · 02/03/2016 at 10:55

Nearly my final starting squad, but open to feedback and ideas!

Backline: R.Laird, J.Bartel, G.Birchall, J.Johannisen, M.Brown (Dons), K.Collins (R.Bonner, AMT)

Midfield: N.Fyfe, G.Ablett, T.Rockliff, L.Parker, O.Wines, T.Liberatore, B.Crouch, D.Parish (R.Mathieson, B.Keays, M.Hibberd)

Ruck: S.Martin, M.Gawn (M.Cox)

Forwards: D.Martin, M.Barlow, Z.Merret, J.Simpkin, C.Menadue, S.Kerridge (C.Petracca, J.Beech)

    Tom McV · 02/03/2016 at 12:25

    Birchall is meant to be Yeo

Nicholas · 02/03/2016 at 11:11

Would love some feedback here !! Thanks community

Shaw, Laird, Johannisen, Brown, Broad, Brown (Byrbe Jones, Hartley)

Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Hannebury, rockliff, Libba, Mills, Kerridge
(Gresham, petracca, Cunningham)

Goldy, Gawn (grimley)

Martin, Barlow, Tippett, Milera, Menadue, McCarthy (hunt, hammellman)

Titan · 02/03/2016 at 12:22

My last premo spot is out of parker and selwood
J selwood gonna be fit for round 1?
Or stick with parker?
Or someone in between?

    neil · 02/03/2016 at 12:41

    what abuot neale gun in a great team.how many premos dou have. ihave 13

    judd0 · 02/03/2016 at 12:42

    In that price range I really like Steele Sidebottom.
    Parker is great value though so if you're happy with him stick to it.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 02/03/2016 at 13:20

      Go sidey as a pod

    Marcus · 02/03/2016 at 18:59

    Parker

Ethan017 · 02/03/2016 at 13:14

Feel free to join league 610272

murray · 02/03/2016 at 13:48

here is my revised team

def Laird, Bartel, Birchall, McGovern, MBrown(ess), S Collins (KCollins Hewett)

mid Pendles, Ablett, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Rockliff, Libba, Parish, Petracca (Mathieson, Hibberd, McPherson)

Ruck Nicnat, Gawn (Wyatt)

fwd Zorko, Barlow, Z Merrett, DeGoey, Kerridge, Cox (Phillips, Tipungwuti)

I have tried to go 4 keepers in backline, 5 keepers in mids, 2 keepers in rucks and 4 keepers in fwds (assuming degoey plays to the level I expect). That makes 15 keepers with the rest to make cash. The theory behind this team is to minimise trades and pick keepers that I think will excel and play the full season.

Please leave your honest appraisal on this team. Let me know what you think

    neil · 02/03/2016 at 15:09

    who are the 4 keepers def.

    Chill · 03/03/2016 at 09:45

    All good in theory but you will be itching to upgrade Birchall,Merrett and Nic Nat/Gawn at a minimum I would say.
    There's no way your back line will be strong enough and you will be regretting not having Goldy.
    Mid field looks great.
    You will need to bring in Dusty at some stage, maybe even Bennell.

      murray · 03/03/2016 at 10:32

      Hi Chill
      If I was to bring in upgrading some defenders and upgrading to Goldy and Dusty, that will mean culling a premo mid (probably Ablett). Would be prepared to do this but the defenders are a concern, There are very few premo defenders and the ones that are are too expensive. ie shaw mcveigh. I will wait for them to drop in price

Trixxxxx · 02/03/2016 at 13:51

What does POD stand for ?

Chill · 02/03/2016 at 13:53

Why is no one talking about Sloane?

    Kegzlegs · 02/03/2016 at 14:54

    I think people assume he will struggle with the tag as the number one mid at Adelaide and they are questioning the support around him? He is actually my M2 which is pretty cheap but I have all players above 520,000 until M7 so I feel like I'm covered.

    I have been questioning him, Wines and Greene in my team this last week but I think he is a keeper.

      Kegzlegs · 02/03/2016 at 14:59

      Also if you remove his vested games he scores 114 average for home and away games… pretty big discount at this price if you ask me

Liam · 02/03/2016 at 14:04

Point of Difference

Luke · 02/03/2016 at 14:17

Reckon you've gone way too overboard in the mids thats where the rooks are that make the most cash. Every other line looks way too thin as a result Patch. No Goldstein either? i think he has to be R1, Zach Merret is gonna get flogged every week & Kurt Tippet is way over priced as he is so inconsistent. Drop a mid or 2 and strengthen backs and fwd's with proven premiums

    Jess · 02/03/2016 at 15:17

    Agreed. As much as I respect this community, and really wanted to like this team for its originality and risk taking, I honestly hate it. Lekdogs team was 10 times better. But, each to their own – being different from the crowd can be an amazing thing if it works.

      neil · 02/03/2016 at 15:34

      the team has split the community.I am also in the lekdog corner by a mile.

      Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:02

      I love the diversity of thought in the community! Shows while we do back certain picks by no means are we a shoal. It is a tough team to sit on the fence with – I get up some mornings and hate it too.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 16:48

    It bugs me that Goldy isn't at R1, but there's little I can do without compromising too much else. Can see a lot of forward rooks making cash this year, which is why I'm comfortable stacking the midfield so much.

    I'm backing my controversial forward line in with the full knowledge it could blow up in my face.

Liam · 02/03/2016 at 14:18

Thoughts on my team please:

DEF: Boyd, Docherty, Rampe, Seedsman, Brown, Hartley (Collins, Broad)

MID: Gaz, Hannerbery, Treloar, Rockliff, Ellis, Viney, Gresham, Mathieson (Keays, Hibberd, Gore)

RUC: Nic Nat, Jacobs (Cox)

FWD: Montagna, Gunston, Deledio, Menzel, Kerridge, Petracca (Adams, Grimley)

    Tom · 02/03/2016 at 15:53

    very POD heavy. Reckon you dont have enough proven premiums in your mids and backline but theyre all good picks so it could work for you. Good luck!

    Cuddlz · 02/03/2016 at 16:17

    Reckon you need to look for a bit more consitency here Liam.

    Very ballsy though, Team could go off any given week.

    I like your FWDS, and the Hannerbery pick.

    Good luck with it.

    wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 16:44

    I agree with tom and cuddlz Liam, it looks like you're trying to be different.
    you shouldn't feel like you're following the masses for having players that everybody else has at the start. The reason you see particular names in more than 50% of teams is because those players have proven that they are guns for SC

Tom · 02/03/2016 at 15:47

Weitering and Pendles

or

Sheridan and Shiel

    SC16 · 02/03/2016 at 15:53

    option 1

    wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 16:51

    I like the potential of 2 and the safety of 1.
    it all depends on the rest of your midfield and backline

      Tom · 02/03/2016 at 17:00

      Already have gaz, fyfe, danger, rocky and libba in my mids.

      Sheridan or Weitering would be my D4 behind Laird, Bartel, Boyd/KK

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 16:49

    The second option by the skin of your teeth. Be more exciting for you!

Jordan · 02/03/2016 at 15:54

Which is the better combination from the following:
1.Gawn, Johanison/Smith/McGovern, Wines
2.Goldstein, Shaw, rookie
3.Goldstein, BIrchall/Gibson, Crouch

    Cuddlz · 02/03/2016 at 16:10

    I like number three mate with gibbo and crouch

    The gold one is simply to good.

    Good luck with it.

Cuddlz · 02/03/2016 at 16:05

G'day all,

Jack Trengrove $156,500 – WHY NOT????

love to here your thoughts.

    wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 16:49

    The bones and ligaments in his lower body are made of cheese or similar fragile substance

    Kev · 02/03/2016 at 16:53

    Haven't seen him out on the track yet, cuddlz. Never buy into the "he's training the house down" hype. Look then assess.

    Box · 02/03/2016 at 16:59

    Fragile…………………

    Grahame Lebroy · 02/03/2016 at 18:06

    Def don't start with him. Maybe mid season target

    Jackwatt$ · 02/03/2016 at 20:44

    Consider him when you see him get through his pre-match warm up on his third game, but not before.

      Cuddlz · 03/03/2016 at 18:57

      Thanks lads.
      Well said.

pup · 02/03/2016 at 16:32

lachie hunter averaged 98 without sub affected games last year at 415k surley he's worth a look

    wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 16:39

    Mid only this year pup and with Libba 100k cheaper it's hard to fit him in. I don't see him taking mid time off Bont, Lib or McCrae and if stringer gets his wish and plays some mid time Lachie could be the one to suffer a decrease in mid rotations.
    Sure he will be a gun fwd for the Bullys but SC wont let you put him there

    Kev · 02/03/2016 at 16:50

    If he was dpp I'd be all over him. Agree with wombats though, he won't be a top 8 mid

Ben · 02/03/2016 at 16:49

G'day Everyone,

This is my team at the moment.

Back Line: Rory Laird, Jimmy Bartel, Jason Johannisen, Jacob Weitering, Mitch Brown and Michael Hartley (Kieran Collins & Nathan Broad)

Midfield: Nat Fyfe, Patrick Dangerfield, Scott Pendlebury, Garry Ablett, Tom Rockliff, Tom Liberatore, Jade Gresham & Dean Gore (Rhys Mathieson, David Cuningham & Michael Hibberd)

Ruck Man: Stefan Martin & Kurt Tippet (Sam Grimley)

Forward Line: Dustin Martin, Michael Barlow, Tom Bell, Daniel Wells, Nakia Cockatoo & Sam Kerridge (Christian Pertracca & Mason Cox

Would love some advice!

    Ben Morton · 02/03/2016 at 16:50

    With 270K in the bank 😉

      Holty · 02/03/2016 at 17:20

      Gee Ben
      Good side but with all that money in the kitty, you must be tempted to bring Goldy in for Tippett?

        Ben Morton · 02/03/2016 at 19:08

        Yeah i was thinking about it!
        Thanks

    Kev · 02/03/2016 at 18:55

    Good side. With 270k in the bank, make Wells or Weitering a premium

      Ben Morton · 02/03/2016 at 19:08

      Yep cheers!

    Jackwatt$ · 02/03/2016 at 20:42

    Michael Hibberd bit too expensive for the bench, plus he is suspended for 12 months anyways….

    Leeds17 · 03/03/2016 at 06:12

    Could maybe get Tippett into your FWD line for Bell and Goldy or Gawn into the rucks, personally not sold on JJ but get the pick.

    wombatsfc · 03/03/2016 at 14:28

    I don't think that you'd have 8 playing mids

@brad_mason12 · 02/03/2016 at 16:50

any input would be great

def : laird, kk, birchall, hartley, hibbed, bonner, brown, broad

mid : fyfe, danger, pedlebury, gaz, rock, lib, parish, gresham, gore, cunningham, matherson

ruck: goldy, gawn, cox

Fwd: martin, barlow, gray, simpkin, kerridge, petracca, grimley, skinner

    Kev · 02/03/2016 at 19:01

    Worried about your D2/3 as you're running with 3 rookie defenders on the park. They will be boom or bust each week and it will be frustrating.

    Looks good elsewhere

kevwal · 02/03/2016 at 16:53

Patch I love this structure, a true Guns and Rookies. Because of Rocky and Libba, I really wanted to be able to start with 15/15 this year. With role changes. team changes and a 'seemingly' abundance of playing rookies, 15/15 seems very achievable. Rubnning with ten(10) premo keepers(this includes Rocky), five(5) 400k+ should be good enough to fit in top 6 defenders and forwards. Three(3) onfield rookies in def and fwd and they appear good enough, not only to play, but score decent points early. I have the same structure Patch, but six(6) different premos across the park and I think Tony Greene has an opportunity to shine. Merret and Johannison have been tagged as breakout players from early research. I just need to tie down my D2, having not seen him play yet (M. Williams-pies), not convinced Jimmy B will play enough four(4) quarter games. I finished strong last season, but not having enough solid keepers at the beginning of the season did me no favours at all. Thanks for putting your team out for critique Patch, much appreciated

    neil · 02/03/2016 at 17:03

    15 prem makes for the lower end premos across the board is this wise to exclude fyfe type players for cripps type players for the sake of an extra prem

      kevwal · 02/03/2016 at 18:28

      My mids are Fyfe, Pendleberry, Ablett, Priddis. Gray, Rockliff, Liberatore. Strong enough I would have thought.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:06

    Cheers Kev! Very good tactic to have, and I've tried to bring as many keepers as I can into this side – the reason why Menzel and De Goey aren't in the line up. I don't like Greene's DE or tendency to give away free kicks often, but he is a candidate to go to another level. Williams is a very interesting pick – beware the impact of Aish and Treloar on him, but I haven't seen anyone mention him at all, a true POD.

Box · 02/03/2016 at 17:02

Worried about Fyfe………………………….. did no one else see him grab his back after taking that mark on the weekend?

    Tom · 02/03/2016 at 17:09

    Might be sore but theres no way they would risk him in a nab game if he wasnt 100%

    Ive thrown away the key, hes locked in.

Polly · 02/03/2016 at 17:03

Mills and Goldy
Or
Crouch and Stef Martin?

    Tom · 02/03/2016 at 17:16

    1

    Holty · 02/03/2016 at 18:54

    crouch is risky. i think he will miss games early to rest him.

    Marcus · 03/03/2016 at 01:22

    Stef and Mills

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:06

    #1, Polly

    BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 12:59

    goldy everyday of the week except not mills, parish

SC_Beast · 02/03/2016 at 17:31

Johannisen or KK? For D3?

    Derek · 02/03/2016 at 18:01

    KK by the length of the straight.

    Supercoach God · 02/03/2016 at 21:12

    Personally, don't like either of them. Just prefer JJ over KK but predicting both will be very inconsistent.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:08

    If you've got the cash, KK. Safer option for mine.

    BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 12:59

    johannisen

SC_Beast · 02/03/2016 at 17:42

Thoughts on Daniel RIch?

    Derek · 02/03/2016 at 18:01

    i really like him. He is a true mid-fielder.

    Liam · 02/03/2016 at 20:31

    Trying to fit him in

      West · 02/03/2016 at 21:15

      He's really up and down so not sure. Averaged 90 in his best season so if he can add another 5 onto that he might be worth it

    wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 23:20

    I agree with Westy his season ave ceiling is far too low for a 400k+midfielder.
    also, Lions recruited some real midfield quality in past 2 years and rich will never have more opportunity than he had last year. After 6 years in the system I don't see him suddenly breaking out.

      wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 23:30

      However, as a defender definitely worth considering

    Holty · 02/03/2016 at 23:37

    will be great if the tag doesnt go to him.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:08

    Tag worries, mid time with Bell and Robinson and Beams and co worries, ceiling worries. He could go well, but too many worries for me.

greg · 02/03/2016 at 18:35

if Nick riewoldt it playing a bit more up the ground and maybe even though the guts this year what does that mean for his SC output?

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:10

    I reckon it'll go up. Whether he can sustain it is the question. I'm not confident he can get through a season like that, but god if he does a Richo you want to be onboard that train.

Marcus · 02/03/2016 at 18:56

Really nice team and good analysis of your players. Good to see that you've backed yourself and your decisions. Also nice 'shark' tactic.

My favourite part of your team is the ruck combo, in Martin, Gawn, Tippet (RUC/FWD) and Grimley

SC_Beast · 02/03/2016 at 19:12

Rockliff to play more forward this year?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/brisb

    tophawk · 02/03/2016 at 19:18

    And looks like Daniel Rich will be spending plenty of time in the midfield! I am warming to Daniel Rich in my backline. Hopefully Rocky and Rich will both play in this weekend's NAB challenge game. We may get some further clues on their potential roles.

      Derek · 02/03/2016 at 20:35

      I'm trying to squeeze Mitch Robinson into my F4. Any thoughts

        'Don't Blush Babbie' · 02/03/2016 at 20:39

        As previous posts I have him Derek, had the C on him last game, a settled player now – hoping he can average 100's

        Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:11

        Like the call mate. He's stepped up in Queensland and could go very nicely. Pricey for mine, but could be good. On the Rockliff call, I'm not worried. Full quote says he's more likely to rotate forward, not play forward.

          Paul · 15/03/2016 at 19:03

          That's also from a couple of weeks ago before we found out that Beams was indefinitely….

            Paul · 15/03/2016 at 19:03

            was out* indefinitely

Jarrod · 02/03/2016 at 19:20

HI community: Anyone know a solid defender 450k or less????

    tophawk · 02/03/2016 at 19:39

    You could look at Daniel Rich, Jason Johanissen, Elliot Yeo, Jeremy Mc Govern, or an even cheaper option as Tommy Sheridan at 351K.

    Cheers

    Derek · 02/03/2016 at 20:37

    Rich is very solid. His arms appear fairly short, but big chest.

    hedeski · 02/03/2016 at 23:20

    I like McGovern Jarrod, slotted d3 atm.
    Think he could be this years blicavs. Freed up with some big boys back at the eagles.

    Shake n bake · 03/03/2016 at 11:20

    McGovern!

Chris · 02/03/2016 at 19:39

who's the Better pick guys, weitering or dea???????

    tophawk · 02/03/2016 at 19:41

    I prefer Weitering. Guy looks like a beast and played very well against the bombers last weekend.

      Liam · 02/03/2016 at 20:29

      What do you see him averaging ?

    Phil · 02/03/2016 at 20:57

    I'm an Essendon supporter (so obviously Carlton's not exactly my 2nd fav team) but I'd say Weitering by quite some way. Heaps more JS and scored more in his first game than Dea probably ever has. Dea was initially selected in squad, so was fit to play but didn't….don't think he is best 22

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:11

    Need to see Dea first, but I'd say Weitering at this stage.

Phil · 02/03/2016 at 21:04

Before the NAB started I saw Yeo in almost 100% of teams, now I'm lucky to see him in any (apart from mine). I'm wondering what's changed? Is it fact his scored bad in 1 game in 38 degree heat with 20 West Coast players missing? Because both of those things won't happen in season proper…..Has Brown or McKenzie gone down again?? Enlighten me. Also, great team Patch!

    tophawk · 02/03/2016 at 21:22

    I agree 100% with you Phil. Watching him closely. The eagles have 2 more hit outs before round 1. I would not be surprised if he goes big in one or both of those games. Then all of a sudden he will be on everyone's watchlist again. Fickle business this.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 02/03/2016 at 22:38

      Hey tophawk yeah watch him and kk ownership sky rocket if they go ok this week.
      priddus would have struggled to get a kick with the team wc put on the park nab 1.
      Still big into yeo expecting him to b one of the top defenders in 16.

    Holty · 03/03/2016 at 08:30

    i think its one of those things where we as a community are like sheep. We simply follow the herd. Only takes a couple to jump off the wagon, comment and people follow. Yeo wont simply forget how to play football in a game. If you wanted Yeo at the beginning of the season, get him. We all know what he is capable of. Yeo's problem will be his price. If you invest this money, you will be hoping for a top8 defender, if people doubt this will happen, there are cheaper options out there that could have a similar season to Yeo.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:14

    NAB fluctuations, mate. I'm keeping an eye on him, and on Hurn and McGovern. All three are underpriced after being forced to play tall last year, and reckon they'll be very nice picks. But we all flock to the Johannisens and Sucklings because that's human nature. Good to see you've been able to hold off!

Trixxxx · 02/03/2016 at 21:05

W.Milera or L.McCarthy for F5 ?

Someone help me please

    West · 02/03/2016 at 21:14

    Watch the remaining NAB games before making a decision. At the moment neither of them have great job security but i'd be leaning towards Milera if you have the cash. A lot of poise about him.

    wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 23:24

    I like Milera a lot but it's a bit to soon to be stressing over rookies who might not play for a few weeks. easiest way to decide is to create a team with Milera and compare it to your team with McCarthy

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 09:00

    not that keen on either. If i had to pick i would say Milera, maybe.

Tom · 02/03/2016 at 21:44

What do people think of Tim Mohr? Will probably have the same output as weitering if not better and is 25k cheaper

    wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 23:14

    I doubt that he'll match wietering in $ generation. Giants have a plethora of young defenders just on the cusp, Williams etc are the future for the giants Mohr was only there for a bit of bulk to help protect the kids. I doubt that he'll play more than 10 games.

      Derek · 03/03/2016 at 17:04

      Eric Mackenzie is a better option

James · 02/03/2016 at 21:49

Best Midfield rookie 140k or under apart from petracca and Kerridge

    wombatsfc · 02/03/2016 at 23:07

    Based purely on NAB 1 Adamson. 84SC points in just over 50% game time in a team that was beaten by 100points plus he is mid/def

    hedeski · 02/03/2016 at 23:24

    Hope ya not being to picky James but for an extra 4k I'd slot Gresham in. Mathieson from bris solid. Cheers mate.

Judd Magic · 02/03/2016 at 22:24

Hello community.

Was wondering if I could get some feedback on my team.

Think I have a good balance but I am missing Goldy.

B – Bartel, McGovern, Smith, Malceski, Aish, Dea (Hartley, Broad)

M – Ablett, Fyfe, Pendles, Rockcliff, Libba, B.Crouch, Polec, Mills (Jensen, Gore, Polkinghorne)

R – Jacobs, Lobbe (Grimley)

F – Martin, Barlow, Tippet, Wells, Simpkin, B.Kennedy (Kerridge, Brown)

    Judd Magic · 02/03/2016 at 22:50

    Have made a few changes.

    What does everyone think now?

    B – Laird, KK, Rich, Aish, Weitering, Broad (Hartley, Collns)

    M – Ablett, Fyfe, Pendles, Rockcliff, Libba, B.Crouch, Polec, Mills (Jensen, Gore, Polkinghorne)

    R – Goldstein, Lobbe (Grimley)

    F – Martin, Barlow, Tippet, Wells, Simpkin, Kerridge (Petrica, Brown)

      Derek · 02/03/2016 at 23:13

      Polec and crouch not fit. Better pick is Hartung

      Blueprime · 03/03/2016 at 01:07

      Brown to def & L McCarthy fwd.

'Don't Blush Babbie' · 02/03/2016 at 22:26

McVeigh ruled out for R1

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 17:04

    i've put a line through him.

    This could be a trap for people starting with Mills in their team. the kid will probably get a round 1 selection but might be out of the team round 2 or 3 when Mcveigh is back

Jimmy james · 03/03/2016 at 00:04

Kk, b.smith, j lonergan, wish, witering, brown (Hartley, Bonner)
Gaj, Neale, rocky, Parker, wines, Libs, mills, parish (hopper, gore, Keats)
Mummy, Gawn (cox)
Martin, Dahlhaus, Barlow, stringer, kerridge, petracca ( grimley, McDonald-t) got 115k in the bank and thinking Neale to Fyfe, but also worried about my rooks on the bench for def and mid, advise?

    Jimmy james · 03/03/2016 at 00:07

    That's meant to be aish in def and keays in mid

    Blueprime · 03/03/2016 at 01:12

    Fyfe.

dannyyboyy · 03/03/2016 at 01:11

well now isnt this a doozey
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/brisb

    Holty · 03/03/2016 at 08:34

    he is still in my team.

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 08:57

    we have heard the same thing about Fyfe, JPK & Dangerfield. The way this is going they will be all DPP players next year and there won't be anyone left in the midfield.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 09:50

    With less rotations most mids are going to spend more time up fwd so might get a few more snag rolls. But when the whips r cracking the best mids r going to b playing in the midfield.

Blueprime · 03/03/2016 at 02:09

Pretty happy with the team at the moment.

Laird Yeo Sheridan Aish Brown Hartley S Collins K Collins

Fyfe Dangerfield Ablett Kennedy Rockliff Liberatore B Crouch Mathieson Petracca N Freeman Adamson

Martin Naitanui cox

Martin Barlow C Sinclair Bird B Kennedy Kerridge L McCarthy Grimley & 26600.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:20

    Nice mate. Would swap Bird for De Goey, but beyond that and monitoring Crouch I reckon it's solid.

Nathan · 03/03/2016 at 07:41

Laird kk docherty z williams brown hartlet (broad collins)
Fyfe danger ablett selwood l (may change to parker/shiel) rocky libba parish polkinghorne (gresham Cunningham Mathieson?)
Nic nat gawn (wyatt)
Martin barlow merrett simpkin milera kerridge (petracca grimley)
Any thoughts?

    Holty · 03/03/2016 at 08:17

    love the Williams choice Nathan. been so tempted to bring him into my side but just cant make it happen. i think he will be a cheaper and less risky choice then Yeo, Martin and all those other mid-pricers. I assume thats Hartley at D6? All in all, good team. do you have much in the kitty? If so, upgrade one in the ruck unless you are confident both will finish top 3-4.

      Nathan · 03/03/2016 at 10:21

      Only got 19k left
      Yeah Hartley at d6 but on field rookies change so much
      Yeah williams is my only real pod atm
      I cant seem to find another i can trust

Derek · 03/03/2016 at 08:58

what do people think about Mitch Robinson at F4. $499k. is he getting too long in the tooth?

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 09:54

    He'd rather a fight than a feed. With beams unlikely for Rd 1 could b a very crafty pick.

    magpie4ver · 03/03/2016 at 09:54

    Whats your team look like with a F4 @ $499?? Seems like a lot for an F4?

      Derek · 03/03/2016 at 12:35

      i drop Goldy from R1 to find the cash

        SC_Beast · 03/03/2016 at 14:22

        Will Robinson be a top 10 fwd? I see you want to select mids who are going to be top 10 mids, but are you doing the same for forwards?

          Derek · 03/03/2016 at 14:44

          My forwards MUST play in the mid-field, They don't need to be DPP but they need to be in the guts getting near the pill.

          Robinison is the 14th most expensive forward. Ahead of him are Gunston, Roughie & Westhoff who are key position players. So he isn't far off being in the top 10 expensive as it is.

          I think he can be top 10.

            Benjamima Puddleduck · 03/03/2016 at 20:24

            Gunston top 10 for the first half of the season?

              'Don't Blush Babbie' · 03/03/2016 at 21:27

              I had Robinson from day 1 but i've gone Shane Edwards instead ,just a gut feel though

            Kevin Skywalker · 03/03/2016 at 23:12

            i just wonder how Robinson will go with the likes of Zorko and even Bell now. Point sharing ?

    wombatsfc · 03/03/2016 at 14:20

    Based on the end of last year and this year to date he's a new man and very capable of a 100+ ave. Lions made him captain for round 1 of NAB so they're obviously impressed with his new attitude and performance.
    I've got him F3 with Merret at 4

    Grahame Lebroy · 03/03/2016 at 15:09

    Love the way he plays footy. He had a great second half of the year last year SC wise. Averaged 110pts for final 10 games.
    Something seems to have clicked with him since going to Brisbane. Toying with him as my F3 Derek, still watching at this stage

    magpie4ver · 03/03/2016 at 15:31

    I dropped Glody too…..Not sure who to go with Martin or Nic Nat @R1. Goldy soaks up a lot of cash and makes if a little more difficult trying to get the structure I want.

      Derek · 03/03/2016 at 16:39

      i started off being in the "Goldy too expensive" camp, Then i jumped ship and had him in my team. I seemed pretty happy about that, but i'm back looking at options like Robinson at F4 IF i don't have Goldy (Nic Nat instead).

        magpie4ver · 03/03/2016 at 17:07

        Yes…I'm jumping back and forth but I think I'm going to keep goldy out now……just because I have better options in the def………but depends on rookie and the nab.

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:21

    I like him a lot, Derek. Reckon he could go very nicely. Only caution is what role Bell will play.

      Derek · 03/03/2016 at 22:31

      Would you pick Robinson or Wingard?

TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 09:52

What is the go with GWS? Don't they want us to have a look at hopper? Dropped for 2mrw night

    Kev · 03/03/2016 at 10:36

    Look at the names coming in, Trigger. Davis, Ward, Mumford, Shaw, Griff, Cameron, Stevie J, Shiel, Dev Smith, Greene.

    Hopper best 22? Don't reckon we'll see him until the second half of the year

      Holty · 03/03/2016 at 10:54

      Agree Kev. Plus, unless you are a very select few like Whitfield, Kelly,etc, GWS seem to ease you into senior footy and make you earn selection via the NEAFL.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 12:45

      Based on that theory kev why is Kennedy playing? I think hopper is further up the tree than Kennedy.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 12:43

    Nab cup surely he gets a gig and let loose on the pill to push his case for selection? If u r fit in nab you generally get a gig to show your wares.
    on a side note with McVeigh out Rd 1 if mills puts in another polished display pretty much locks himself into my team if named Rd 1.

      Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:22

      Parish or Mills the go in the middle if you can.

Essendonjabbers · 03/03/2016 at 10:55

Who would you pick out of yeo, rich or johannisen

    Ethan017 · 03/03/2016 at 11:44

    Yeo for me

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:23

    You've seen who I've gone for jabbers. Yeo next on the list.

Holty · 03/03/2016 at 11:07

Can we just start the season now? I've gone 48hrs without changing my side which is impressive for me. with another 2 weeks of NAB, wonder how many changes I'll make.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 12:48

    Me too though happy now so can't see too many changes other than injuries or rooks being named Rd 1. Took a long time to settle on my team mind you. The higginator has been working overtime lots of drafts but finally settled on what I believe will be a high scoring team able to generate plenty of cash.

Nnmmmsmmsn · 03/03/2016 at 12:24

I reckon ibbotson is a nice POD

Grahame Lebroy · 03/03/2016 at 13:29

Am I stupid for thinking of starting Viney as my M5 instead of Parker?

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 13:37

    neither are keepers, you will have to upgrade them at some stage, so who do you think will make you the most cash?

      SC_Beast · 03/03/2016 at 14:19

      You don't think Parker will be top 10? He will come close

        Derek · 03/03/2016 at 14:37

        he is in the group of players just under the top 10. Sloane, gray, Hanners, Beams etc. there is always a chance they could become one of the Ultra premiums.

        Parker is way ahead of Viney on that matter.

        To me, you start with Keepers (they are ones you will be happy to have in your BEST team) or cash-cows. So if they are not a keeper, they are just there for the cash generation. Some will gain cash fast and some will do it much slower. I prefer the fast cash cows so i can get me Best team sooner.

          SC_Beast · 03/03/2016 at 18:52

          G'day Derek, thanks for your reply, whats your top 10 mid look like?

            Derek · 03/03/2016 at 22:51

            Top 8 mids, and this is the midfield I will be aiming to have.

            Ablett, fyfe, Dangerfield, Jpk, Priddis, Pendlebury, Selwood, Rocky.

      Grahame Lebroy · 03/03/2016 at 14:47

      I've had Parker locked at M5 all pre season hoping that he would go well enough to be a keeper which I think will be close. Viney averaged 105 for last 8 rounds last year and even though he has only played 1 NAB game, it was a very good one 123pts. Prob stick with Parker cause he should score more points, Swans will win at least 5 more games than Melb and he is the better chance of being a keeper. They are both underpriced for the year though

Rodney C · 03/03/2016 at 13:29

I tried to re-create my league from last year with ten people and it went to 18 – what am I going to do Jocky?

murray · 03/03/2016 at 14:13

hi Patch
Could you please have a look at my team and let me know what you think of it

def Laird, Bartel, Birchall, McGovern, MBrown, Hartely (SCollins, KCollins)

mids Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Libba, Wells, Parish Mathieson, (Hibberd, HGreenwood, McPherson)

Ruck Nicnat, Gawn (Cox)

Fwd Zorko, Barlow, Tippett, ZMerrett, DeGoey, Kerridge (Grimley, Tipungwuti)

Tear it apart or praise???

    SC_Beast · 03/03/2016 at 14:18

    No Ablett, surely he's a lock

      murray · 03/03/2016 at 14:29

      No, I sacrificed him to strengthen my defenders and forwards, If I put him back in, any suggestions?

      murray · 03/03/2016 at 14:30

      If I put Ablett back, do I sacrifice Tippett and DeGoey

        wombatsfc · 03/03/2016 at 14:38

        Gaz will occasionally score more than tippett and gooey combined, but at the moment your main problem is having 8 playing midfielders. Apart from the cheetahs I doubt that any actual rookies will play midfield round 1

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 14:33

    Ablett must be in your starting team. His price won't drop.

      murray · 03/03/2016 at 14:35

      Hi Derek
      I sacrificed him to strengthen my defenders and forwards, If I put him back in, any suggestions?
      If I put Ablett back, do I sacrifice Tippett and DeGoey?

        neil · 03/03/2016 at 14:41

        Hi Muurray he is the one mid you cant ignore. Personally I would have 2 rookies fwd and goldy having said that this is quite a good side.not convinced about Tippet either.Hall or Robinson look beeter imo cheers

          murray · 03/03/2016 at 16:13

          Hi Neil
          I have put back Ablett and sacrificed Tippett (was able to keep deGoey) this is how the side looks now

          def Laird, Bartel, Birchall, McGovern, MBrown, Hartely (SCollins, KCollins)

          mids Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Libba, Parish Mathieson, (Hibberd, HGreenwood, McPherson)

          Ruck Nicnat, Gawn (Cox)

          Fwd Zorko, Barlow, ZMerrett, DeGoey, Kerridge, Grimley (Beech ,Tipungwuti)

          what does everyone think now??

    CoachDamo · 03/03/2016 at 14:36

    I like McGovern, but the ongoing injury issues from last year are a concern. Otherwise I don't mind the defence.

    In the middle, I'd look at ablett instead of pendles. See what other rookies like keays, Gresham, etc do for the rest of the nab challenge. I'm still not sold on wells either. Best of luck to him but I can't see him getting through a season (or long enough to earn some cash).

    De goey had a good weekend but you can't expect him to maintain that output when pendles, swan, sidebum, treloar, Adams, Greenwood are in the mix.

    Holty · 03/03/2016 at 16:01

    If you are concerned about sacrificing other positions for Ablett, get rid of Danger of Fyfe even. Unless you actually think both will average more then Gazza?

      murray · 03/03/2016 at 16:05

      Hi Holty, actually I think Fyfe and danger will ave more than Ablett over the season. Pendles not sure with such a strong midfield around him. Pendles might be the one to go

    Patch · 03/03/2016 at 17:26

    Love the McGovern call, not sold on Wells yet. Aside from that, you've got yourself a very nice team Murray! As others have noted, Abblett is the best value of the big four, so would pick him ahead of the other three, simply because the others are more likely to drop at some point.

      Murray · 03/03/2016 at 20:08

      Thanks patch for your feedback. I have replaced wells and Tippett and put back Ablett. Side is looking pretty good now

Kevin Skywalker · 03/03/2016 at 15:14

Like the look of your team your arguments for your PODs, rucks and rookies are all well made.

I think the best bit of advice Patch gives is about the NAB games and placing too much emphasis on them especially on players scores. I fell into a couple last year (Ryan bloody Griffen) and my notes this year have started to include the SuperCoach scores for the NAB games. However I'm about to fix that and remove those notes

murray · 03/03/2016 at 16:14

I have revised and have put back Ablett and sacrificed Tippett (was able to keep deGoey) this is how the side looks now

def Laird, Bartel, Birchall, McGovern, MBrown, Hartely (SCollins, KCollins)

mids Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Libba, Parish Mathieson, (Hibberd, HGreenwood, McPherson)

Ruck Nicnat, Gawn (Cox)

Fwd Zorko, Barlow, ZMerrett, DeGoey, Kerridge, Grimley (Beech ,Tipungwuti)

what does everyone think now??

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 16:45

    a very nice looking team.

    I really like the MGovern pick at D4. D4 is for a potential keeper and that is exactly what he could be.

    One of the few teams i've seen without Dusty, very shark move! but i think you really will need to get him.

Derek · 03/03/2016 at 17:13

Jaeger O'Meara won't play until at least round 6. GSC coach Rodney Eade said today.

    Liam · 03/03/2016 at 18:49

    Could be a good downgrade option come round 8-9

    SC_Beast · 03/03/2016 at 18:51

    Looks good for MacPherson

Breakout. · 03/03/2016 at 17:20

Behold my mid price madness team:

Def: Williams, JJ, Salem, Sheridan, Lonergan, Brown, Broad, Hartely

Mid: Sheil, Parker, Adams, Wines, Duncan, Hunter, Libba, Gresham, Phillips, Petrecca, Mattheson

Rucks: Martin, Smith, Wyatt

Forwards: Dusty, Barlow, Green, Billings, De Goey, Menzel, Meleria, Cox.

I feel there is lots of potential there based on last years scores especially the way some of these guys finished.
Not going with the crowd. Backing in the break out boys.
5 deep in defence, 7 deep in midfield and 5 deep in fwd line 6 if you count Menzel.
Hoping to jump out of the blocks.

    Jess · 03/03/2016 at 17:55

    Even if they all go well, it would be pretty hard to win it with very little captain choice. Suggest that you bring in one of ablett/fyfe/danger. Good luck

TRIGGER HAPPY · 03/03/2016 at 17:24

O'Meara has had another setback and wont play NEAFL till at least week 5.
So cross him off your list if he was on it as don't look like we will see him at AFL till at least Rd 7-8.

Matt · 03/03/2016 at 18:40

Option 1: Fyfe and rookie like Menadue

Option 2: Wines and B. Crouch

Thoughts?

    SC_Beast · 03/03/2016 at 18:51

    option 1.

    BigHaydos · 03/03/2016 at 19:08

    option one everyday of the week. need fyfe to win

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 22:53

    1

Liam · 03/03/2016 at 18:48

Need some help to finish my team.
Should I go
Hartley, Shiel/Parker, Merrett
or
Rich/Yeo, Mills, Robinson

Leaning towards number 1 but not sure. Let me know your thoughts
Cheers Liam

    Kev · 03/03/2016 at 20:26

    Option 1. Don't see any out of group 2 being keepers

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 22:56

    I'm seriously thinking about having Rich and Robinson. I'll also have Rocky so thinking I might have too much brisbane

BigHaydos · 03/03/2016 at 18:58

Can someone slap me? came up with a new team and gee its a massive gamble and really depends on rookies playing most weeks.

DEF: bartel, suckling, weitering, hartley, tucker, Collins (brown, byrne jones)

MID: Fyfe, danger, pendles, ablett, priddis, jpk, rockliff, Libba (mathieson, gore, gresham)

RUCK: Goldy, Gawn (Currie)

FORWARD: Dusty, Menzel, Wells, Brown, Kerridge, Grimley (cox, petracca)

The whole midfield and ruck is locked away and i think the forward line offers heaps of coin making. 12 keepers if you include bartel, 13 if suckling has fun at the dog kennel. Peoples thoughts? I wrote this team up due to there being so many rookies on offer who look set to play the majority of the season (M Brown, kerridge, grimley, petracca, cox, weitiering, hartley, collins, tucker, brown)

    BigHaydos · 03/03/2016 at 18:59

    also got 136k sitting in the petty cash

      SC_Beast · 03/03/2016 at 19:17

      Why have Grimley and Cox in your forward line – get rid of Cox, won't play. For your strategy to work you need all your rookies scoring well. It's a bold move, haven't seen many teams like it, I would upgrade Suckling.

    tophawk · 03/03/2016 at 19:53

    If you plan comes off you will be a bloody genius! Just have to make sure you have ALL the right rookies in your side for this to come off. Personally, if I was going to adopt this strategy, I would be slightly less aggressive in stacking your midfield. Maybe downgrade one of your midfield premos to a b.crouch type and then you would have 200-250k to spend to slightly strengthen your back and forward lines. Cheers

    CoachDamo · 03/03/2016 at 20:50

    Consider yourself slapped!

    You'll find many of the top scoring rookies will be midfielders so if I was going to take a risk I'd do the opposite. Lock away your defence and forward line and let your midfield cash cows increase in value.

      neil · 03/03/2016 at 22:06

      the problem would be you would be to far behind

    Grahame Lebroy · 03/03/2016 at 21:41

    Points coming hard out of the guts. But Suckling as your D2 and Menzel at F2 seems a stretch.

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 23:06

    I can see this team being top 100 for the first 5 weeks.

    Possibly finishing top 20,000 by year end.

    Can't see team value getting to $14mil. Not enough cash cows.

    Look at getting some of the gun players cheaper than they are now

      BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 12:50

      thanks community for all the constructive feedback. I think i like this game plan and will stick to it. Traded suckling for rance too lock away another proven premo

CapTnKaOs · 03/03/2016 at 20:04

Hi all. I'd be interested in any thoughts on my team. Also, I haven't seen any love for Pearce Hanley. Does he offer any value at 467k?

DEF: Gibson, KK, Bartel, Weitering, Brown, Hartley (Hibberd, Bonner)

MID: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Rocky, Libba, B Crouch, Parish (Menadue, Mathieson, MacPherson)

RUCK: Goldy, NicNat (Cox)

FWD: Dusty, Barlow, D Menzel, P Wright, Cockatoo, Kerridge (Petracca, Grimley)

55k in the kitty. Will be hoping to upgrade Weitering to Shaw in the first 1/2 of the season.

SC_Beast · 03/03/2016 at 20:35

Will Hall be a top 10 fwd?

    Kev · 03/03/2016 at 22:14

    If he gets mid time he'll be right up there. These last rounds of nab are usually a good indicator of how teams will line up round 1.

Matt · 03/03/2016 at 21:08

Hey everyone, If u have any feed back for me on my team PLEASE let me know!!!!
DEF: Laird, Gibson, Bartel, Rich, Weitering, Brown(Essendon – Colledge, Glass
MID: Fyfe, Pendlebury, Ablett, Wines, Libberatore, Crouch, Kerridge, Petracca – Mathieson,MacPherson,Stewart
RUCK: Goldy, Martin (Goetz)
FWD:Dusty, Barlow, Greene, De Goey, Wells, McCarthy – Kommer Gallucci

jaiden · 03/03/2016 at 21:26

would you guys go for Weitering, Eric Mackenzie or maybe even Dean Terlich who has proven to be a consistant scorer a few years ago

    Kev · 03/03/2016 at 22:11

    None of them inspire much confidence for their pricetag. I'd go for a 117k rookie, save yourself some cash.

    neil · 03/03/2016 at 22:11

    Terlich not in demons best 22 Mackenzie low scoring weitering the best bet by a mile

    Derek · 03/03/2016 at 23:15

    Don't be surprised if Whitecross gets named round 1

Corvus · 03/03/2016 at 22:04

Open league for any keen supercoaches 594595

Damon Bisetto · 03/03/2016 at 22:52

callum mills or darcy parish

    BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 12:52

    mills is an interesting one and will depend on mcveigh. Parish will thrive at essendon and has a spot in the midfield and should play everygame. Parish the safe option from the limited knowledge we have on the pair

K.Willy29 · 04/03/2016 at 11:06

P.Cripps or L.Parker?? Having a hard time choosing between the two.

    BigHaydos · 04/03/2016 at 12:51

    definitely parker

Trevor Gleeson · 06/03/2016 at 10:50

Anyone who wants to join my league 466129

Nick · 06/03/2016 at 14:43

Thoughts lads:
Shaw
Laird
Docherty
Pittard
Brown
Hartley
Dea and bonner

Fyfe
Ablett
Rocky
Zaharakis
Libba
Mills
Parish
Kerridge
Gore,cuningham, Mathieson

Goldy,smith grimley

Montagna
Dusty
Barlow
Greene
Kennedy
Cox
Petracca and long

Paul · 15/03/2016 at 19:01

I know people are going to change their rookies after teams are named, but the amount of people with Mathieson in is suprprising. He has a broken cheek bone…..

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