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Supercoach 2016 midpriced defenders

I woke up with a terrible hangover yesterday morning.

This hangover was not alcohol induced. This was NAB cup induced. I opened my team to find a plethora of mid pricers – De Goey, Menzel, Crouch, Parish, Luke McDonald, Johannisen, Daniel Howe, Aish, Smith, all scattered through my team. It was simply terrifying, community. I had caught NAB fever. Johannisen was at D1, for Christ’s sake! It was madness I tells ya!

The lunacy had to end. The midpricers were cut, and I reset my side. But it was a wakeup call. This bloody NAB cup, as much as we love it, drives us insane. Stick to your guns. Don’t go chasing bloody 120s in the NAB, unless those 120s are backed by serious statistical analysis and evidence.

So I reset my team, with a twist to account for performances I think warrant attention. So, without any further ado, to-ing and fro-ing or awful clichés; I present to you: Patch’s Potatoes.

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Embracing the Shark

In the mighty Jock Reynolds magazine last season, Peter Higginbotham wrote a sensational piece about staying ahead of the pack.

I’ve tried to incorporate that into my side – I’m avoiding the most expensive players in each line -aside from the midfield – and finding value in the bookends. You’ll notice both Dustin Martin and Todd Goldstein fit this mould, and Rory Laird only just creeps in over Lekdog’s famous 500K defender rule.

Instead, I’m leaving space up forward to generate cash, and have saved 100K by picking the rucks I feel will finish in the #2 and #3 spots for 2016, which can go into more points around the ground. Both ruckman collect their own pill and tackle like men possessed. I have no room for men like Matthew Lobbe who stand, tap, repeat.

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Putting the POD in potato

I’ve spoken and tweeted extensively about Zach Merrett, whose position at F3 should surprise no-one. He’s not risk free, and will have the odd 60, but he is primed. Accompanying him in my forward line is perhaps my biggest call for 2016 – Kurt Tippett.

Before you head straight to the comments section to tell me I should call my side the spuds, open Ocker’s Spreadsheet, and find Tippett’s scores for 2015. Look at his back half of the year. Tippett averaged 118 in the back 10 rounds of 2015. 118 points. He shared ruck duties with Mike Pyke, he kicked goals, he was up and about. He has a massive ceiling, and I feel he and Sinclair will share the ruck role 50/50. It’s a big call but one I will make. He hasn’t left my side.

Johannisen will be eased into Bob Murphy’s role at the dogs this year, so I think he’ll score well – better than Yeo or Rich in that price range. I’m also looking at Hurn, who had to play tall in 2015 which killed his scores.

Dylan Shiel and Max Gawn are left field picks, but rapidly losing POD status. Both are ready to explode and I’m backing them both in.

The engine room

I have a stacked midfield. That’s where the points are, and I feel most of the cash generation is up forward this year. Parish will hold his own, but is neck and neck with Mills for that M8 spot. Parish is in front only because his role will be Get The Ball for 22 games, and I’m uncertain around Mills’ role once McVeigh returns.

M1-3 speak for themselves; as do Rockliff and Liberatore. JPK has finished top 8 every year for the past 4 years, and has missed two games in that time. He may become Parker, as Parker presents incredible value, but JPK is as solid as they come in the midfield. Ollie Wines is carrying a niggling groin injury which has him on the backburner of my side, but he’s every chance to come in before round 1 – if I can find the room.

Rookies

As you may suspect, my side is no-where near settled, and the rookies are the most volatile part of an ever-changing team. They will change before round 1.

Righteo community. Is it a team of spuds or are the Potatoes cooked just right? See you in the comments!




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@BarronVonCrow

Patcho! I really dig that team. Probably one of the more unique ones we'll see, but if a few guys pull off good years I think you'll be laughing.

JPK? Love him to bits, nice pick.
Tippett? He can go and get stuffed, but if he's getting big R1 minutes he should be good. He always plays better when he can get involved in it, rather than just waiting for the ball to come to him.

Merrett and Johannisen will be your biggest ones, I reckon. Johannisen was fantastic when I saw him play against the Giants and Merrett is gonna have every opportunity in the world to score well. No Goldstein in the ruck is always a risk, but you've probably got the two next best options there.

Patch

Thanks Barron! Looking forward to your, mate!

Tippett has flog-like qualities, but feel if he's up the ground he's dangerous. Merrett locked and I like what I see in JJoh.

SC_Beast

Do you see Tippet as a keeper along with Merret?

Patch

Both have been selected with the intentions of staying all year.

fatboyfat7

JJ was going to be a big POD for me this year but seems like he's getting the deserved recognition across the board this year after Nab1. Shiel is an interesting one for mine. Had a cracking start to 2015 and was scoring big but I still can't bring myself to pick him over Parker. (I just can't get away from the shoal it seems!)

Bill

Doggies fan here. My issue with JJ is theres only one pill to share down back between murphy, boyd, wood and possibly biggs, suckling.. too risky for mine. But you dont win playing it safe.

LuskinStar

Even if JJ lifts his average by 10 its still not enough to be a keeper and at 400k+ he wont make much coin. Think you guys are getting carried away with a NAB game against a second string Giants side.

fatboyfat7

If he lifts his avg by 10 he'll be inside the top 15 defenders going by last year. I'd take that happily. I also stated in another thread prior to NAB 1 that he was in my side. He's about 23/24 now and with his speed I think he'll easily get an improved responsibility with the likes of Boyd and Murphy pushing on in years. Its a risk I know but thats the game…

Patch

He needs to show me more of the same to stay there. I know they've got a lot down there, but they really rate him and his pace is a step above the rest.

SC_Beast

No Goldstein? Do you intend to get him?

Patch

Nope. I'm aiming to make zero trades in the ruck this year – I'm taking the point loss on the chin and hoping I can make it up around the ground.

I N Pieman

Pretty good Patch. Agree with the stacked midfield. The mid rooks this year either have poor JS or the ones that do are expensive. Load them up back & front. Nice work

Simmo_mate

Thoughts on putting eastern wood in the backline? Or should I invest elsewhere

Patch

Not for mine, Simmo. Feel there are better options around. In Coachkings those intercept marks will tear the game apart, but not for longer form.

Simmo_mate

Thanks patch, Might go with KK or Birch instead

fox

Solid team patch ! Maybe Hartley for adamson? And lot off rooks up fwd,, but could be good cash generation ! Good luck and love your contribution too the community

Patch

Thanks Fox! Hartley in consideration, but as I said rooks will be dealt with toward the last week of the NAB as we get a feel for who will play where.

West

love it Patch! Running with a similar structure at the moment.

I like the Johannisen, Tippett and Merrett picks but reckon it might be a bit too risky all in the same side

Patch

Thanks mate – feel like I'm pushing too close to the cookie cutter already – if you don't take risks you don't break from the pack.

Shane

It's nice to have a stacked midfield but it won't work. There's no way you will find 5 DEF rookies under $123K. The forward line is super weak as well. With the lack of obvious rookies right now F4 and D4 need to be much stronger and that has to come at the expense of the midfield.

fox

Very valid points

SC_Beast

Brown, Brown, Collins, Collins, Tucker, Broad, Byrne-Jones, Hartley and there are probably more that could play rd1.

Derek

its not about if they will play, its about CASH generation. playing is good, but if they are only managing 40-50pts a game, their cash generation is very limited. Midfield is where the cash will be made.

Patch

That's my main worry in terms of defence.

Patch

The DEF rookies that actually make cash will be a struggle. I've got a few 250K players like Aish and McDonald I can try and scrounge cash for if need be, but the forward line is where most of the rookies are this year. I went two premos in the forward line last year and had a really solid base of mid scoring.

Besides, rationale is it leaves me with an extra keeper in the midfield as opposed to two weaker players (like an Aish and a Menzel) at D4 & F4, which will save me trades in the long run.

SC_Beast

Love that your not spending money on a Simpkin/Aish type. Combine the two together to get a half decent player.

Glorin

Why wouldn't you go stronger in defence then and have 4 keepers. I have been trying to get a balance of keepers to F4 and d4 while having set and forget Rucks and 5 premo mid with libba at M6. It can't be done!
If you feel that there is more money to be made in the forwards, spend in the backline. It will produce more points and save trades.
Libba is the only mid pricer I am serious ly considering and I like the way my team looks without him but he is just too good value to leave out.

DuckingTigers

15 keepers plus Libba would indeed be a major achievement.

@jstorm311

Love the excitement, trepidation, optimism and second guessing when it comes to initial starting squads that everybody gets at this time of year!
Really like that you've put your kahunas on the line with multiple PODs – definitely not shoal behaviour – moves that can & will set you apart from the pack.

Patch

Thanks JStorm! That's the plan – hopefully I end out in front and not falling behind

Jadyn

How are we all feeling about Nic Nat ?

Rick Grimes

Feeling real good about him. Think he's being overlooked. Smashed it last year when fully fit. Has had a proper preseason. I see a 110 average with some massive scores.

Benjamima Puddleduck

I had him my starting line up, but i think he will get some bigger scores after halfway through the season, better to start with gawn.

Derek

he might still become the best player in the competition.

Patch

Need to see him hit the park before I can say too much on him. I've got my eye on him though.

Titan

Had noc nat from the get go
But just down traded goldy for gawn for cash

LuskinStar

I see him finishing top 3.

Korza

A great team. I too concur the forward light on approach is where this bloody thing will be won. The Johannisen selection up back, very nice.
If anything Quadzilla in favour of Shiel ? I have a similar structure, however with C. Ellis and Menadue both sitting beautifully at F3 and F4.
Best team i've seen from the Celebrity's. Sorry Lekdog.

KORZA

Benjamima Puddleduck

Agree, there is alot more thinking to this team than people realize. I garentee he has mapped a solid plan through out the year.
I have the same structure for my starting team as well, with a few different players floating in the mix.
Big midfield points, fast cash flow, and Massive Kahunas

Patch

Thanks Korza! Lek's side is still evolving and I reckon by round one he will hit the thing like a steam train. Ellis at F3 is ballsy as anything, and I absolutely love it.

The Quadzilla vs Sheil vs Parker cage fight is not over yet. Want to see Wines over his niggle first, but splitting the three is bloody hard.

MC

Love the Johannisen pick, have had him locked away since before NAB so hoping he remains a big POD

Patch

Nice work from afar, MC. Well spotted

SC_Beast

Surely if MacPherson comes off the rookie list he is a lock, its not everyday a bargain basement rookies presents himself to play. Also with the Swallow injury, will that mean KK may get more of a run up the ground?

Keenbutclueless

The Swallow injury and JOM delay brings Lonergan back into our thoughts. Huge NAB 1. If he produces another one like that, we may have to consider. Also Lek's pick in Hall

SC_Beast

Yes! Forgetting about Hall, he may find his way into my side now, thanks for the reminder.

LuskinStar

Prior to NAB Suns said they intended to give MacPherson his opportunity. I expect him to get elevated

Afridi

As mentioned by the great shifterr sheehan. The crop of rookies this yr arent as quality as in past seasons. Having 6 all up backs/fwds huge risk. Will they be able to make decent $$ early??

Patch

I'm banking on it. I have no trouble trusting the forward rookies to do their job – it's the backline where I'll struggle. I do have back up plans if backline rooks fall through, but hoping I don't need them

Ethan017

Depends who they are
Kerridge, Brown, Dea will generate you stacks of cash early

Steeeve

Love the team Patch, plum girth impressive. I've got a choice to make community…

DEF: KK, Bartel, Birchall, Weitering, M Brown, M Hartley (D Byrne-Jones, K Collins)
MID: Danger, Gaz, Rocky, Parker, Wines, Libba, Gresham, Gore (D Cunningham, T Phillips, D McPherson)
RUC: Goldy, Lobbe (Cox)
FWD: Dusty, Zorko, Wingard, Barlow, Kerridge, Petracca (Grimley, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

Here's the fun part: I have $200,000 left over.

Where should I look to upgrade?
I most recently downgraded B Smith to Weitering, thinking I may only be doing in 10 points per game on average (yet saving $200k). If Weitering can get me through to near the end of the season ala Saad/Oxley last year I'll be laughing.

I can go Lobbe to any other ruckman but still think he will get up around $450k and one of the premos will be down to $500k. Easy swap. I Keep thinking of Port's easy opening stretch.

What do you reckon?

SC_Beast

Get rid of Lobbe. Doesn't get enough touches around the ground. First 10 rounds he plays: Jacobs, Mummy, Nic Nat, Gawn and Martin

Steeeve

Haha I knew this would be the top answer. Feeling Nic Nat could be a bit of a pod given so many people are jumping on the big hairy cannibal.

Derek

i'm sticking with Lobbe for the same reason, who PORT play first 10 rounds.

Steeeve

It's very tempting, will depend where I feel better about spending the $200,000. Port have easy games but as pointed out above many of those weaker sides have top ruckmen.
If you like the idea of keeping Lobbe how would you rather spend the 200k?

Derek

current team

McVeigh, Laird, Bartel, Rich, Weitering, Brown (Byrne-Jones, Hartley)
Fyfe, Danderfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rocky, Libba, Gresham, Maithieson (Keays, Phillips, MacPherson)
Nic Nat, Lobbe (Wyatt)
Dusty, Wingard, Barlow, Simpkin, Kerridge, Petracca (Grimley, McDon-T)

$25k left

SC_Beast

You picking McVeigh even if he plays no pre season games?

Steeeve

Nice! Do you plan on getting Goldy? I'm not sure a Lobbe to Goldy upgrade will be possible. This aiming for Lobbe to Fawn/Blicavs/NicNat/Sauce. I figure one of those guys will have a couple of poor games and become affordable.

@lewiswgrant

Make Lobbe Gawn.

Patch

Not a fan of Lobbe, so I'd upgrade him to one of Gawn, NicNat, Stef Martin if you can or – if you're feeling lucky – Shane Mumford. I'd save the rest of the cash for the opening rounds' trades.

Average Joe

Haha have a very similar structure to you steve, had 200k left over and made the decision to downgrade a fwd premo and then upgrade a mid rookie into a premo. Personally I downgraded dahl to wells, and upgraded macpherson to Shiel but not sure about him as I still have 50k to choose a premo with. For you I would downgrade wingard to a mid pricer and upgrade macpherson to Gray, JPK etc depending on how much you have left over

Steeeve

Interesting! Will do the old screen shot current team and have a play around maneuver.

Sana

If Lobbe gets up to 450k and a premo drops to below 500k they'll be playing on a similar level making it a sideways trade. Lobbe not showing enough for mine.

Steeeve

True but not always. Only takes a first quarter injury for a big drop. That seems likely to happen to at least one out of five or six top rucks.

Leeds17

Birchall to Laird and Weitering to a genuine mid pricer like Sheridan, Lonergan or Z Williams?

Gaveday

I just don't understand why the mid price hate from so many people.
This season, I believe, is the season of the mid pricer.
Too many valid options. Rookie cash can easily elevate these gems to ultra prems. (assuming 300-350k player hits 450-500k)

That's my bacon for now.

Derek

the problem with Mid-pricers, is there are so many of them. Even if it is the year of the Mid-pricer…which ones?

I started with 5 mid-pricers last year. 1 was good, 1 was ok, and 3 were poor. I think that is about the average ratio!

Johnny

It's the year of the mid priced defender! Just make sure your mid pricers are coming from strong clubs and have good job security.

Jock

Love a bloke willing to put his hand up and say HEY – I can see something that others are missing. Like your thinking Gave

rosco72

Must admit it is very tempting but after getting burned last year I'm going guns and rooks this year with a heavy midfield.

Patch

If any year was to be the year, this would be it. There are a plethora I want to select, but I reckon I'd run out of trades trying to both upgrade them to keepers and handle injuries. Best of lack to anyone game enough to run that gauntlet though Gavey.

Kev

Agree Patch. Most of us were bloody shafted last year with LTI's in the first few weeks! Made a bloody hard to hang onto your trades towards the end. Can only imagine this would increase 10-fold with a midprice structure

@randomcliche

Ran out of trades with 5 weeks to go…..I'm a midprice madness suck (still got top 1%)….

Gaveday

Thanx for the feedback Jock and co. But my mind is made up.

Fortune favours the brave.

I currently have 13 players between 450k and 243k

@randomcliche

Sounds juicy

Mike

Because EVERY year is the year of the mid-pricer. Only it never is, and then it all ends in tears.

Gaveday

Not this year, this year sees genuine prems coming off injuries

Dasha

miills or parish?

SC_Beast

Tough one, keep watching nab to decide.

Michael

Lock in parish!

Bobby Singh

Leaning towards Mills.

BlueBallsFC

Mills easily

Benjamima Puddleduck

Crowley

SC_Beast

Top 10 fwds this year?

Derek

i can't see many outside the starting 8 highest priced players, with the exception of Barlow (current 12th most expensive)

Of the next 8, Rioli could be one to look at, especially if his price drops in the early rounds.

SC_Beast

Would you think Hall, Smith or even Roo could make a charge? Heard Roo may be spending more time in the guts?

Patch

Salient pickup, Derek. If Rioli gets all 22 games together he could be dynamite. I legitimately think Tippett has the potential to be a top 10 forward if he gets a run in the ruck.

DuckingTigers

I think Tippett's scores have an inverse relationship to Buddy's. Ruck duties may change that for you, if you're lucky.

General Soreness

Insightful!

ren

Matt Boyd and Weitering

OR

KK and Sheridan

Patch

the second option for mine, ren

@randomcliche

Don't mind either at D3,D4 but definitely 1 if D4/d5.

SC_Beast

Hopefully young McCarthy get a fair crack. Has suffered injuries, but I'm telling you, if he lines up round 1 he's in my team. He is such an exciting young player unfortunately down at Geelong, their promising young players are all injury prone i.e Menzel, Vardy and McCarthy.

Patch

Hoping so too, Beast. Looked bloody good last weekend and if the Selwoods are going to have as much trouble as people suspect he will run through the middle. Really like the look of Menzel, too.

DuckingTigers

How could that be? I thought Stephen Wells was the doyen of list management with the Midas touch.

General Soreness

Got some fair sized plums on ya Patch with some of those calls, but all valid, reasoned and as valid as the next. Love it mate! With the exception of Tippett, averaged 78.9 at the SCG in 2015!

Patch

Thanks General! He did score a 165 at the SCG last year, and 3 games were pre-Bye and pre his move to the ruck with Pyke. I'm not too worried about the venue change.

Ethan017

Thoughts on Tommy Phillips??

Patch

Need to see him play before I can touch him Ethan, but apparently he's quite the footballer. Very excited to see what he can do, but tough competition for spots at the Pies has me leaning away.

Ethan017

None of that it's a community mate

LHMORWOOD

N.Naitanui or M.Gawn for R2

and

D.Wells or J.Anderson for F4

SC_Beast

Wait and see how Nic Nat goes.

Average Joe

Gawn and wells

FootyFanatic

Agree with SC Beast, also if you got an extra 20k id choose Daniel Menzel over the other two

Kaleb

Any opinions on draft 1000 are appreciated. Rookies are subject to change. $15k in the kitty. Cheers
Def; Laird, Macmillan, Rosa, Daniel Howe, Brown (ESS), Hartley (Broad, Collins)
Mid; Fyfe, Pendles, Gaz, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, Macaffer (Gresham, Gore, Mathieson)
Rucks; Goldy, Gawn (Grimley)
Fwds; Dusty, Barlow, Merrett, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Mccarthy, Hunt)

Kaleb

$1k*. Sorry

SC_Beast

Don't think Howe will get a lot of the ball (if he even plays)when hawks are fully fit.

Average Joe

Not sold on Rosa, don't think it will be worth it having him, maybe downgrade him to a rookie and upgrade howe to a premo

Patch

I'm with Joe, Rosa worries me. Injury ridden and never averaged enough for my liking. Very different backline but the rest of it rock solid, Kaleb.

Michael

What are people's thoughts on kreuzer ?

Average Joe

Too injury prone, and haven't seen enough of him to warrant selection

Dean

$hit

Liam

Great team Patch.
What is your goal with the likes of JJ, Shiel, Tippett and Merrett ?
Are they going to be keepers ? Or are you going to move them on later in the year.
And one last thing, what are your thoughts on Sheridan and Montagna, do you see them doing well and warranting their price ?
Cheers Liam

Patch

Gday Liam, thanks mate! I expect all four of them to be there at the end of the year still scoring for my side. If Tippett changes roles or looks vulnerable to a run of bad form, he may go, but the other three will not be traded unless LTI strikes. Shiel especially I think has the capability to break into a top 8 mid by season's end.

Sheridan is bloody tempting. Every year Ross sits a 350K rebounding half back for us, and every year he stinks up the joint. That said, I reckon he's not a bad choice – you could do a lot worse. I expect an 85 average. Montagna is too expensive for me to start with, and is likely to miss games but based off last year's form I'd want him at some stage. I'll monitor as the season chuggs along. Cheers mate!

Average Joe

JPK > Gray?

BKW

Nah I'm picking Robbie to improve again this year – great pod

Simmo6

I'm expecting port to be better than last year and Gray is my smoky for the Brownlow.. Think he's gonna have a huge year

Patch

Gray has a big X factor, and as Simmo mentioned could take Charlie home this year. However, looking at the risks I've got in my side I opted for the stability of JPK – a 110-120 pretty much each week, all 22 games is exactly what my side is after looking at other picks. Depends on what you're after.

I think both will end up with similar points for the year, but Gray will miss 2-3 and have a higher average.

@randomcliche

Gray doesn't have an injector hitting it down to him this season….JPK.

hedski

What are the communities thoughts on S.Gray vs Wingard? I'm starting to lean towards sammy. Cheers

David

Wingard all day

Patch

Not a fan of paying 460K for a bloke who's played under 20 games. Don't see enough improvement from him to warrant the price tag. At 400k I'd have a closer look.

Average Joe

Gold Coast's Swallow injured again for half the season, hopefully we could see macpherson get upgraded

Liam

What option is better.
KK, Polkinghorne, Montagna
or
Byrne-jones, Pendles, Tippett ?

Thinking option 2 has more scoring potential, but option 1 has a better chance to get two keepers.
Please tell me your thoughts.

PJ8

Option 2. I have none of the players in option 1

Patch

Option two for mine.

Simmo6

Very similar structure I am looking at it.. I like it.. What are your thoughts on this one

DEF
Laird, Smith, Aish, Brown (Ess), Hartley, (Collins (WBD), brown (WC), Adams)

MID
Fyfe, danger, Ablett, gray, Rockliff, Parker, liberatore, mills (Gresham, gore, Jansen)

RUCK
Goldstein, Martin (Cox)

FWD
Barlow, Zorko, Greene, menadue, McCarthy, kerridge (petracca, grimley)..

Any feedback would be appreciated guys!

Ethan017

Looks pretty solid but I think you need to invest more in the backline. Laird and Smith will be taking points off each other so my advice would be to upgrade Smith and maybe downgrade Martin
Good luck mate!

Simmo6

Tossing up between smith and Yeo.. Just can't make a call.. I think smith could just give me headaches again like last year.

Thanks mate

Leeds17

Could you stretch to Bartel?

Patch

G'day Simmo – think Aish at D3 is asking for trouble at some stage, and I'm not convinced Greene will score as well as we'd like, due to his woeful frees against column and shocking DE. Much prefer the Zach, or even De Goey over Toby. Aside from that, you're looking set!

Simmo6

Thanks mate.. Not 100% sold on Aish.. Loved my mid set up though.. How do you think this looks.. Seems abit better balanced.

Def
Laird, yeo, smith, brown, Hartley, Collins (brown, Adams)

Mid
Fyfe, danger, Ablett, gray, Rockliff, liberatore, mills, Gresham (polkinghorne, gore, Jansen)

Ruck
Goldstein, Martin (grimley)

FWD
Martin, Zorko, barlow, wells, menadue, kerridge (McCarthy, petracca)

Spewing I can't fit Parker, but offset upgrading Greene to Martin and Aish to yeo and cox to wells…

Dean

Simmo this is vital mate, put Grimley in your forward and get rid of McCarthy and put either Cox or Wyatt as your Ruck emergency this way you can swing Grimley/Wyatt or Cox to FWD/RUCK – this will generate you $37,000.

Nice side.

Ethan017

Thoughts

Backline
Laird, KK, Yeo, Brown (essendon), Dea, Byrne- Jones (broad, Bonner

Midfield
Fyfe, Danger, Ablett (c), JPK, Rocky, Libba, Crouch, Parish (Petracca, Keays, Mathieson)

Rucks
Goldy, Smith (Grimley)

Forward
Martin, Wingard, Barlow, Menadue, Simpkin, Kerridge (Cox, Phillips)

SC_Beast

If that's Zac Smith, I think you are in trouble.

Patch

Z. Smith a big POD – like him more than Lobbe. Make sure you keep an eye on him but could be stellar for you. Keep an eye on Crouch's progress, too. I'd want to see a full game from him before picking him.

Ethan017

thanks for that I've downgraded Goldstein to Martin and upgraded Smith to Gawn
Also what are your thoughts on Jacob Weitering? I have enough in the bank to upgrade Dea to him is it worth the risk?

FootyFanatic

I like your team Patch, I also like your structure as I haven't seen many teams with the same one. I'm not starting with Goldy either, his overpriced in my eyes and should drop in price early with Jacobs, Martin, Gawn and Sandilands being his first 4 opponents.

Patch

Thanks Fanatic! I'm not thinking about Goldy at all – my team looks better with that extra 100k around the ground and I'm not aiming to get him in, as there won't be enough cash generation that early to take advantage of the price drop.

Mighty_Hondo

Hi community, would love your feedback on my team so far. Wondering if too ,many rooks/ They are of course subject to change pending rnd 1 selections.

BCK: Houli Laird Sheridan Wietering Hartley Adamson (Tucker Collins)

MID: Fyfe Danger Pendles Ablett Priddis Rocky Libba Petracca (Hewett Matheison Macpherson)

RUK: Martin Gawn (Cox)

FWD: Barlow Gray Merret Kerridge M Brown (Ess) Long (Grimley Skinner)

39k in the bank

will hopefully pick up goldy on the gamble his price will drop a fair bit.

Thanks, I'll be relying on ur views!

SC_Beast

so your going to waste a trade on a premium ruck just to get goldy? if you went 2 premos who aren't Goldy, why waste a trade to get him? May as well get Lobbe and use the cash elsewhere? Premo's are picked to stay in your team the whole season.

Mighty_Hondo

Cheers Beast, that's a v good point. I'll re-think the Goldy scenario..

Holty

i think if you are starting these 2 rucks, Goldy shouldnt be a option. If you want goldy, find that extra cash and start him. Team looks solid. Still concerned about all ths rookie defenders but as from all the other replies above, seems the opinion is very mixed so who knows if it is right or wrong.

David

Nice team i like the risk factor break away from the norm
My question is who hear is thinking of going Tippet this year?
Ave 115 in the last 10 games last year for me will spend a fair amount of time in the ruck as i dont rate Sinclair
Would be handy in the forward line as great backup if a ruckman goes down
Thoughts?

SC_Beast

I think Tippet went well when Franklin was out if I recall. Very risky selection. Make or break selection

Mighty_Hondo

Nice call on Tippet Patch…I had him in after seeing yours as that would get rid of Cox in my team and I'd move Grimley to R3…Dunno how much of a risk he is though. Just saw ur comment about his SCG avg though…He may be the go yet…would probably drop out Merret…

Deccas

Love your stuff Patch, love the johannisen pick. Tippett avg. 77.4 in the first 2/3 of the season. Buddy wasn't there for the last part of the season where tippett avg. 118 and he had the freedom as the main big tall. Whereas now buddy is back!! Risky i reckon!!

Danners

As Higgo would say that is a "significant" structure Patch. Merrett looked good and in my side at F4. A big call on the forward line premos, any of them could have a great year or bad year. Otherwise good team

FootyFanatic

Anyone notice a pattern with the highest averaging rucks over the past 6 years?
2016 ?
2015 Goldy
2014 Jacobs
2013 Minson
2012 Naitanui
2011 Cox
2010 Sandilands
That's why I'm starting with Gawn and Martin

It's johnny

I'm going with Gawn he is going to have a fantastic season

SC_Beast

I like your stats, but it is sort of hard to see how Goldy will fall from his throne. But then again, it's possible.

Holty

plus this is going by averages. Total score over the year would be interesting and as Goldy doesnt miss to many games, im sure he would be in the top couple every year.

Patch

Significant mate. Very significant. Reckon Goldy has the best chance of keeping the throne since Cox monstered the position pre-2010, mind you.

FootyFanatic

I gotta agree with you there Patch, Goldy is definitely the number 1 ruckman in the Comp at the moment. But if this recent trend continues he may not be #1 at the end of the year.

Harvey

Mumford Gawn Martin or even Blicavs

AverageAdsy

What does the community think of a Goldy/Nic Nat ruck combo?

'Don't Blush Babbie'

I did but I changed from Nic Nat to Gawn only because it freed up about 10k that I needed elsewhere

SC_Beast

Looks good, just got to watch Nic Nat in the nab, if he fails, easy downgrade to Gawn.

AverageAdsy

cheers fellas, just feeling a bit one from Nic Nat this year, even though he doesn't get heaps of touches he also is a pretty high scorer.

Steeeve

If I pass on Lobbe it will likely be for Goldy and NicNat combo. Reckon NicNat will have a ripper year, considering his strength is hit outs to advantage which score big.

Michael

Haven't seen much of L.McCarthy from Geelong but a few people seem to be selecting him. Can someone give me the info i need on this guy. Should i be looking at him?

SC_Beast

He's a gun. Been injury riddled so hasn't played as much. If he's playing round 1, he's in my team. He is an excitement machine.

JOHNNY

How is my team looking fairly happen with it but open to suggestions
KK johannisen, smith, wietering, k.collins, m.brown: m.hibbered, bonner
Danger, Pendles, abblet, JPK, gaff, Rockliff, Libba, b.crouch: gore, macpherson, long
Gawn, lobbe: cox
Zorko, wingard, Barlow, Menzel, petracca, kerridge: kommer, wyatt

SC_Beast

Very light defence and packed midfield. I would personally get rid of crouch and gaff for rookies, upgrade lobbe and smith.

Pete

Love the Gaff call mate

Patch

Gaff an interesting one – thoughts behind him? LIke the Menzel pick, both Zorko and Wingard is ballsy.

Thom

Why do you think Zorko is ballsy?
Thoughts on Jack Martin this year?

Michael

Merrett or Tippet?
I have Grimley as r3.

Thoughts?

Vindude

I think Merrett too, more cos hoping he has a breakout year – he has all the opportunity to do so. Maybe get Cox on the bench so that you can swap if need be.

Vindude

Great work Patch, i think its a solid team – nice pick there with Johanessen, agree with the fact that he is going to be a better pick than a Yeo. I see you have Menadue, but how about B Kennedy for a few more $$ ? He's been killing it so far in pre-season, and job security no longer a worry as it was the case when he was with the Pies.
Thoughts appreciated,
Cheers everyone!

Patch

As I said mate, rookies aren't set. Kennedy has two weeks to state his case, and I've absolutely got my eye on him!

ren

Is Goldy 100% locked into most sides?

Just having 2 550k plus players can make your other lines so much stronger

Phil

Goldy is so locked in my team, that for anyone who has ever worked on a mine site and seen those big locks which have about 6 padlocks on them, I have one of those around Goldys legs….actually around his arm, his right arm, the one he used to palm the ball down his teammates throat….So yeah, he's locked.

Tom

De Goey or Sheridan?

I know theyre in different lines but who do we think will have a better year?

Patch

I think Sheridan would be a better pick considering the dearth down back this year, and the need to make space for forward rookies. However, I really rate De Goey as a player and think he'll approach – but not quite reach – both 500k and keeper status this year. Depends on your side.

Marcus

Thoughts on alex rance

Patch

Coach Kings god. Will have games where he scores poorly and will drop in price. When he's floating around 430k, I'll look at picking him up, but don't like paying over 500k for any defender, let alone a key defender!

Marcus

Thanks mate

Throttlefinger

Like splashing cold water on the face this squad is Patcheroo!

Love the chances you're taking here. My concern would be the number of high risk PODs. Or what I would call "going too shark". Think your logic on each pick is sound and it could work. But going slightly less POD heavy may make your journey as exciting without as many hangovers. Just my annoying 2 cents.

Again brilliant squad and thinking, my friend.

Patch

Cheers Throttlefinger! Great to hear from you mate! It's always the danger – how many PODs are too many PODs? I may stray back into safety before round one, but would rather die wondering than sit in the shoal for 23 rounds. Look forward to clashing with the Throtts-a-lots this year!

throttlefinger

Very true, my man.

Look forward to squaring up with this wild bunch!

Beagz

Outstanding mate. Best team I've seen posted so far and not just because it's almost identical to mine. The balance between risk, hope and proven scoring is perfect and exactly what we need this year. My only question is around Johanisen. I'm guessing your hope is that he slowly takes over as the controlling back and for the dogs and I just don't think he's next in line for it.

Patch

Cheers Beagz!

It's a tricky question on JJoh. I have little doubt he'll play a big role for the dogs running out of the backline over the next few years, but am worries I might be jumping the gun. Boyd and Bob are still on that half back line, as are Liam Picken and Easton Wood. He's going to be closely monitored, and is by no means locked away.

Chief

Will suckling be competing for the same role as jj?

Beagz

I think Suckling will be playing more as a defending winger sort of role rather than the running role like murph and boyd have played.