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PODCAST: Things get serious in NAB 2

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Things get serious in NAB Week 2

They really came to play in the NAB over the weekend.

And the fantasy relevance of what transpired over the weekend’s NAB Challenge games was significant. The murky fog of uncertainty around rookies is beginning to lift. Midpriced mirages are dissolving before our very eyes. New possibilities are presenting themselves.

Important notes as discussed in the podcast;

Let’s get this discussion cranking community:


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West

best day of the week

Simmo_mate

Thoughts on e.wood in the backline community?

Jack

It's a strange year boys! What's the go with Ol mate Brad crouch?!

Benjamima Puddleduck

forget about him for now

Jack

Absolutely spewing if that ends up the case he coulda been Bloody handy

Longdrop

Adelaide radio reports last week were that he had pulled up "sorer than expected" so was rested for NAB 2

@BarronVonCrow

Yep. He still did a training session and is supposed to be ready for NAB 3, but I suspect even if he does play he'll have limited game time.

Benjamima Puddleduck

if he plays round 1, he wont be putting up the points that we are after. Ill be looking at him a few games in i think.
But we will let NAB guide us!

Tom

Everyone's top 10 mids?

Chill

Ablett, Fyfe, Pendles, Danger, Hannebery, Rocky, Gray, Sloane, Parker, Wines

Danners

Fyfe, Rockliff, Pendlebury, Ablett, Priddis, JPK, Gray, Dangerfield, Beams, Sloane

BigHaydos

fyfe, dangerfield, pendles, ablett, priddis, jpk, beams, rockliff, beams, hannerbury

Iamme

Ablett, Fyfe, Pendles, Danger, Hannebery, Rocky, JPK, Priddis, Mundy and Beams,

Rakesh

Fyfe, Pridittis, Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Treloar, Cotchin,Rocky, Parker, Sam Mitchell, Ward

DuckingTigers

Cotchin? Surely that's a typo.

Josh

Hey Gents,

Who do you like most out of the following?

Billings, Stringer, Merrett, Greene.

Cheers.

@OldCampaignerSC

Reckon Zacky Merrett now..looks like he can go through the guts now and kicks goals!buddy at f3 for me but im strongly considering Zacky now..

Josh

Had buddy in at first look at my team but since booted… currently have Billings but want to see a few more games from him, like the look of Merrett,

vchap

Im expecting billings to explode but in saying that i cant fit him into my starting team

Mike

Are you ready for the money shot?

Ethan017

Big fan of Greene ball magnet

Redgumwon

I like Greene as well. I think Greene can be in the top 6 forwards by the end of the year

Kano

Stringer looks powerful.

@OldCampaignerSC

Will be listening very closely tonight fellas…love the podcasts!!!

Tom

What do people think of Matt Boyd?

Leighroy

Too old won't play 22 games

vchap

Will prob be highest scoring aveage defender but will be managed so his ripe for finals. He will play max 18 games baring injury.

Bg G

Is anyone thinking of doing the unthinkable and passing on Ablett for someone like Pendels or Gray and trying to pick him up later when we know how he is going?

Rich

No

Benjamima Puddleduck

sure am!!..



hah, just kidding

NO

Tom

Maccaffer a good option? Wont tag this year

Danners

Could save $60k by going a cheaper more reliable rookie

Shake n bake

He'll be reliable, l think anyway.

DuckingTigers

It would be improbable that he'd play a hard tagger when recovering from a knee injury.

Grahame Lebroy

Excellent podcast fellas, loving the looseness Jock brought this week courtesy of Carlton Draught

REN

What defenders you think will finish top 8 come end of year?

Vchap

Heres my go (in no particular order) Shaw, Mcveigh, Boyd, Bartel, Rance, Laird, Rich and Houli

Vchap

Sh*t forgot simpson and murphy replace them with rich and houli

Underthepump

Backs – Laird, Murphy, Kolodjashnij, Sheridan, Brown (Ess), Bonner (Collins, Broad)
Mids – Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Liberatore, Parish, Mathieson (Keys, Phillips, Clarke)
Rucks – Goldstein, Lobbe (Cox)
Forwards – Martin, Barlow, Stringer, Franklin, Kerridge, Petracca (Grimley, Adams)

Thoughts community?

Sheridan and Stringer risky picks and rookies subject to change

Kano

Leave Goldy alone. Upgrade Lobbe. Set and forget

TRIGGER HAPPY

I think the riskiest pick there is Lobbe after what gawn did to him on the weekend.

@BarronVonCrow

42 initial CoachKings venue and 42 is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything.

Valks

Flip it the other way and you get 24. 24 cans of Carlton Draught in a case, 24 hors in a day!

longdrop

doing real well if you can get through 24 hors in a day Valks!! lol

Valks

Hours! Ha

Soothsayer

Geez I feel like going to the Globe here in Deniliquin for an ice cold Carlton Draught now Jock. Only trouble is I've just come over from Adelaide and I have no idea how to order a beer properly. I liked the look of Mckay from Carlton too, any thoughts on his role at the Navy blues? I liked the way he had a few little jabs and bumps with the bomber boys during the breaks too.

Phil

I also liked the way the bombers made Carlton look like the team of top ups.

DuckingTigers

The battle for the spoon has begun.

Sarah

Awesome podcast boys! So disappointed I didn't win the tickets… I was 55… so close!!!
I think I'm starting to veer away from all the midpricers as you spoke about. Standard GnR set up… but I think I need to take a risk somewhere. The winner usually has picked at least 1 breakout player… still deciding who that might be.

Holty

Cheers fellas. Another great Podcast. It always helps get me through work on a Monday.

@BarronVonCrow

Small sample size, but I think the initial difference between Smith this year and the previous two years may very well be the Crows ball movement out of the back half. 2014 when he was All-Australian, the defenders like Talia, Brown, Rutten etc all were instructed to move the ball around by hand until you could get it into the hands of Brodie Smith or Matty Jaenech. So they were the main facilitators of the offense out of the back half. Last year he still had some great performances, but he was further up field and was delivering the ball inside to the forwards.

This year there's two things the Crows are looking to do. Intercept across half back and then if possible, work the ball through from halfback and through the middle with chain possessions of handballs. But they don't look to be going to just Smith anymore, so if Smith isn't being the main outlet out of half back, that lowers his potential. BUT if he can become an intercepting player and be involved in those chains, either at the start, middle or even the end where he can finish, then he could still be a good player. Unley Oval in NAB 1 was supposedly 26m smaller than a normal oval, so it's not exactly the best for that kind of gameplay, and he was obviously off at halftime. Laird is still a great pick too, and I may be leaning towards him if the cash is there. I'd definitely give him NAB 3 before we write him off and hope Dr Modra fixed him up in the rooms when he went off crook.

Also, if this doesn't illustrate how big of a year I think he's going to have, then nothing will. I am locking Patrick Dangerfield into my midfield. M1, teamed up with Ablett as my M2.

Sarah

Great analysis Barron. I'm locking in Dangerfield too. I think it will help us get over the loss by forcing us to 1. watch him play, and 2. hope he plays well.
I've also already bought my tickets to the Crows v Cats game at Adelaide Oval. I'm coming over from Melbourne for it… God I hope we win that game!!

@BarronVonCrow

Great hear, Sarah. I'm not gonna boo him, but I hope we flog the pants off the Cats!

simon

Which one
1. Nic nat and parker
2. Zac smith and pendlebury

ben

both shit options

SC_Beast

How is option 1 shit? Please tell me about your supercoach knowledge? Option 1 is good.

ben

both players extremely risky, a lot better options in both positions available with similar prices

SC_Beast

Parker risky?

Sheldon

if your considering zac smith, you know nothing about supercoach. A lot better mid options available than Parker

Sarah

I like Parker as an option. Injury effected last year. Has loads of potential. Nic Nat could also be in for a huge year!!
Option 1 for me. Don't mess about with the rucks.

Sheldon

agree that you need 2 gun rucks!, i just cant see parker averaging more than 110+ which you want from premium mid's. Hannebery would be the only Sydney mid i'd consider.

Redgumwon

Agree Sarah I've now down graded Martin to Nic Nat and upgraded Lobbe for Gawn. They'll be my starting ruckmen. I've also gone for Parker & Rocky now in the midfield and done away with Pendles. My side looks like this now

Backs: Laird, Bartel, Rosa, Sheridan, Brown (Ess) Hartley, Byrne-Jones, Broad
Mids: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, Kerridge, Gore, Keays, Mathieson
Ruck: Nic Nat, Gawn, Cox
Fwd: Dusty, Barlow, Greene, De Goey, Kennedy (Melb) Milera, Petracca, Grimley

What do you think?

Sarah

I like it!! Good solid backline! I do think people are jumping on De Goey a bit quick. It was one good NAB game, no Pendles or Treloar, and he's a second year player. Not for me. Maybe next year or the year after.

Redgumwon

Thanks Sarah. I'm finding the forward harder to pick this year. I'll just keep my eye on how De Goey goes in the next NAB Cup game. I was thinking similar to you when the Collingwood guns return what effect it'll have on De Goey. The same think could be said about Mills in the midfield. When McVeigh returns how will it effect Mills and his role in the Sydney side.

I did like Vandenberg's game for Melbourne on the weekend. He did play forward but I think that was more for team balance and another tall option. If he goes and spends more time midfield and goes forward he could be in for some handy scores.

dannyyboyy

1 is much better

judd0

Gawn vs Nic Nat?
Who averages more?

Danners

Tough call, Nic Nat has a better chance of averaging more as he has averaged well for a few years now, Gawn was only good late last season

Gaveday

I'm thinking both

LuskinStar

Going with Nic Nat because i feel he has scoring potential away from hit outs.

SC_Beast

Thoughts on my team! Feedback is appreciated.

Shaw, Laird, KK, Aish, Broad, Tucker, Collins, McDonald-Tipungwuti,
Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Mills, Gresham, Keays, Mathieson, MacPherson
Goldstein, Gawn, Wyatt
Martin, Zorko, Barlow, Kerridge, Petracca, Brown, Grimley, Adams.

Danners

Good team, although having set reliable premos means there are more rookies which if don't go well round 1, could mean the use of a few early trades

SC_Beast

So what suggestions do you suggest?

SC_Beast

if that makes sense

hedeski

I like it beast very similar to mine atm besides a couple defs.

Rance Laird McGovern (2dads Jones)
Weitering Brown (ess) K.Collins (Hartley)

Danger Fyfe GAJ (Mathieson)
Rocky Parker Libba (Petracca)
Gresham Kerridge (Phillips)

Goldy Gawn (Cox)

Choppies Z t Mag Winky (McCarthy)
Simpkin Milera Menananandue (Filthy Grimey)

I think McGovern is a smokey POD/breakout with a few big boys back for the eagles.

Great podcast fellas few frothies in the shed after work Mondays is a must now cheers

Dave

Is there a good argument for putting a midpriced ruckman like Kreuzer or Z.Smith in your starting lineup with the view to upgrade to Goldstein when the price is right.

You might burn a trade, but could potentially save up to $200k.

Danners

Could be a good plan, but there is no rucks around that would make quick cash and it will be a while till Goldstein falls below $600k

Swans2012

Definately considering it as I can't justify the goldy spend,considering Sinclair,Nicholls,smith and kreuzer I guess (though a bit pricey). If Sinclair can do a little in the next couple nabs and looks like averaging 85-90+ he might be the one,would make a handy f6-7 ruck cover later in the season. And means your not wasting a trade as he is slipped into the forward line. Just doubting his scoring potential but we'll see…. I think he'll ruck 65-70% over Tippett so that might be enough….

Leeds17

Couple Swans members i know reckon they'll share rucks duties if not Sinclair spending a touch more time forward.

Swans2012

Could be right, time will tell I guess, i just remember horse saying something about getting Tippett playing more time in "his" position this year. Then again he has been doin well in the ruck and he is a big bastard (203cm) Sinclair is 200. Interesting…. Hmmmmm

Mike

Tippet was an absolute gun over the later part of last year, I think they’ll want his presence around the ground, he seems like he’d been watching Mummy’s game and reacting well after the taps, getting involved.
Swans are real chance for the flag this year I reckon.

Gaveday

absolutely. Many here will tell you otherwise, but if you go for Gawn instead of goldy you're saving 140k odd already and got yourself a ruck who'll score. That 140 could upgrade your r2 from a lobbe type to a nic nat type (give or take a few 10ks) but you catch my drift. You can have 2 solid ruckman for a mill or goldy and martin for 1.29mill.
The funds can be used elsewhere! Rookies generate cash and if you really really need 2 you can goldy it up later.

A question for the ages is has any number one priced player every significantly increased? Will goldy go above 700k????

Surely not.

LuskinStar

I think the gap in price between Goldy and a midprice ruck will always be too great for that plan to work.

Steeeve

I have decided it will be impossible for a mid pricer to upgrade to goldy.gap is just too big. I am however toying with goldy and a mid pricer (like lobbe). That way I can save some cash initially and upgrade to a fawn/nic Nat/ jacobs, whoever has bottomed out.

Danners

Great podcast guys! Got my eye on Viney and Z.Merrett after their performances. Sheridan is also an interesting pick. Thoughts community?

SC_Beast

Sheridan is an interesting pick. Not sure I trust Ross Lyon in which what role Sheridan will play. Viney looked good, but will he tag?

Danners

That is the only problem I have with Viney at the moment, he hasn't yet though. Sheridan looks like he may get midfield time or provide run off half back with his speed

lostlarrikin

I'm all over Sheets. Per my comments in the Freo/Crows game thread.
Sheets finished last yr with an 85avg from last 9.
Looks like similar role.

Nathan

My Balance looks way better if I have Nic Nat and Gawn as my 2 ruckman – Arhhh the dilemmas of Ruckman.

not sure if I big enough brass balls to go it though.

magpie4ver

I'm dealing with the same issue…….Its tough…..remember NicNat and Gawn have same bye week.

'Paulie Walnuts'

Yes,I had Goldy & Martin until i realised they had the same bye, now gone Goldy & Gawn – haha Goldstein & Gawn – sounds like a Law Firm

Westy

Why not Goldy and Smith or Lobbe?

SC_Beast

Would you go Aish or Weitering at D4?

DuckingTigers

Can see Weitering being very inconsistent. How do you think he'll go against Cloke or Hawkins? Aish can run around and try to accumulate. It's reactive versus proactive.

REN

Boyd and Weitering

OR

KK and Sheridan

SC_Beast

KK and Sheridan at this stage. But if you can swap Boyd for someone like Laird I would do that.

Ethan017

Feel free to join the league 466962

Rakesh

done. 372216 is also available in case those who miss.

Tom

Thoughts on Sam Gray?

played really well on the weekend

Swans2012

Yeah I really like him, I think he could well be top 10 forward but just awkward price. I'm leaning to a hall at the moment but we'll see what next couple of nabs bring.

ben

top 10 forward means shit. doubt he'll be a top 6 forward

Swans2012

Your better than I am if you think you can nail all 6 of the top 6 forwards, if you can slot someone in out of the top ten for 480k at the start of the season you do it every time…..

Jambo

If named in Round 1, pick him. At the very least, place him upon your watch list. If he plays most games this year, then he could average over 100.

Liam

Thoughts on my team.
DEF: Laird, KK, Bartel, Sheridan, Brown, Hartley (Byrne-Jones, Broad)
MID: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Gresham, Mathieson (Keays, Clarke, Phillips)
RUC:Goldy, Gawn (Wyatt)
FWD: Montagna, Dusty, Barlow, Kennedy, Kerridge, Petracca (Grimley, Adams)
Rookies could change depending if named and NAB cup form.
Still unsure on Montagna, could downgrade him to upgrade Parker to Pendles.

Holty

i like the Montagna pick Liam. Big POD. if he stays injury free, i see him possibly averaging 110+ based on he wont get tagged anymore. I lime this team.

Liam

Cheers Holty, I'm hopping Montagna fires early and gets me some points.

3.votes

Need some help lads- first Tom Sherridan or James Aish as D4? Which of these 2 ruckman should I consider? Blicavs, Nic Mac, Gawn, Sam Jacobs, Mumford? Jordan degoey as a f4? And best rookies?

Kev

Sheridan.
Jacobs, Gawn.
Not a bad option, but I think he's awkwardly priced.
Look at some of teams the community is posting for rookie ideas.

Been

Mitch Duncan or Luke Parker as m5

magpie4ver

Probably Parker

'Paulie Walnuts'

I have Parker at 4 & Duncan at 5

Leeds17

Parker is a safer bet to go 110, But Duncan could go huge

ben

neither will go 110

SC_Beast

Parker could easily go 110 he will never get tagged, can kick goals and collect contested and uncontested possessions.

Rawkus11

Thoughts community?
Def: Houli, Laird, Simpson, Aish, Brown, Broad (Hartley, Collins)
Mid: Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Parish (Gresham, Cuningham, Mathieson)
Ruc: Martin, Gawn (Grimley)
Fwd: Chopsticks, Barlow, Buddy, McCarthy, Kerridge, Petracca (Cox, Kommer)

Shake n bake

I have Martin & Barlow as f1 & f2 who is who does the community have at f3 at the moment?

Average Joe

Depending on how much you have try go a zach merrett type player, or if you don't have as much wells is my f4

lostlarrikin

Tippett

Shake n bake

I have $488k but just trying to get my head around who to pick!

CoachDamo

I have Toby Greene at the moment, but still very much up in the air!

hedeski

Zorko toe Ragnificent

judd0

I'm rolling with Z. Merret as my F3 at this stage, could well change, but he looks great.

DuckingTigers

Devon Smith.

'Paulie Walnuts'

F3 – M.Robinson,F4 – Z.Merret

BigHaydos

I love the lions and Im a huge robinson fan, probably one of my favourite players getting around at the moment, but I cant see him going top 6 forwards this year, and for a few thousand coins either side of his price tag there is better options for loop hole vice captains

Jambo

I like. Both quite relevant this year.

Adam

Thaughts guys team so far
Laird bartel rosa smith brown, rookies
Fyfe ablett rocky parker libba crouch. Rookies
Nic nat smith
Barlow wingard zorko green wells rookies

Not sure on lib n crouch or the 2 smiths

BigHaydos

GUNS and Rookies!

DEF: Rance, Laird, Simpson, Wietering, Tucker, Byrne-jones, hartley, collins

MID: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Parish, Gore, Gresham, Petracca, Mathieson,

RUCK: Goldy, Gawn, Michael

FORWARD: Dusty, Zorko, Barlow, J.Reiwodlt, Kerridge, M.Brown, Grimley, Cox

KEEPERS: 13
MID PRICE – 1
ROOKIES – 16. 8 on field

BigHaydos

changed J,Reiwoldt for Westhoff, port has an amazing early draw and he has a huge ceiling

SC_Beast

Can i ask why have michael in the ruck with grimley and cox in the fwd line? Michael has no dpp and Cox would be better suited as r3 then get a rookie fwd who will play.

judd0

Yeah beast is right Haydos, throw Grimley or Cox in at r3 then pick yourself up another FWD rookie that will make more cash for you.

PJ8

Nice team. 13 keepers? I count 14. Libba will be a keeper!

Ewing

Stef Martin, KK, Gawn OR Goldstein, Laird, Z.smith

Kev

Weitering played one practice game against a b-team and he's already in a lot of sides… Been playing SC too long for fall for that. Massive no, especially when there are cheaper, non KPP rookies that don't play for Carlton putting their hands up

BigHaydos

can you give some reasoning as to why you wouldnt pick him? number one draft pick, and slots straight into a depleted carlton line up. Clean hands and loves an intercept mark. Also interested to see who you think the value defender rookies are? Cheers Kev

Gord29

has to be watched the next game looked good though and the way he plays its only going to help the ball been down there so much

Kev

G'day BigHaydos, seeing you a bit around the forums, loving your contribution to the site.

Few reasons I'm not selecting him. Firstly, KPP is the big one. Even our big gun KPP's struggle for consistency, tough ask to expect that from a first year rookie.

Secondly, using history as a guide, big number 1 draft picks have rarely faired well in their first season. McCartin, Boyd, Patton, Watts, NRoo have gone at number 1 since 2000. In their first year they've only played a handful of games. Blues will play him because they've got not much else in cupboard, but they'll manage his playing load carefully.

Thirdly, what's his role at Carlton and in your SC team? That footy nous to know when to leave your opponent for the ball doesn't happen at 18 years old, and in SC, he's 220k. Which is a hell of a lot. I've used the salary calculator over at a rival site (sorry Jock!). If he averages 70 (which is generous) up until his round 13 bye he'll be 336k. A 60-65 average has him at 293k-313k

All that said I'm excited to see him out there, just he won't be making an appearance in my team

Franklin

GDay Kev just wondering what site you can calculate salary on???

tophawk

Weitering still worth keeping a close eye on in NAB 3. If he backs it up, then he should be worth considering. He is certainly not in my side at this stage, but that could change. In any case, the footy should be down Carlton's defensive end A LOT this season. That should bring opportunities for him. Cheers

derek

Kev is right. Selecting Weitering breaks at least 4 of my 10 Supercoach rules.

The only thing he has going for him is that he is in the defence of a poor team.

Jambo

The ball will probably be spending a lot of time in the Carlton backline this year. Weitering may play quarterback role with his clean ball use and ability to grab intercept marks makes him quite fantasy relevant.

Dean

I prefer HOWE over Weitering & Whitecross

Luke

I've got him too, haven't seen a word said by anyone about him! Seen him play in launceston, looks a future jet

SC_Beast

Thoughts on Rance?

BKW

Yep will be top 6 defender. Only KPP I'm considering

hedeski

As my reply to u above beast I'll probably start him.

Holty

not starting with him but im sure i will be trying to trade him in at some point. Will be a good POD early on.

Shak

Thoughts on Daniel Menzel?

SC_Beast

Quality player, could be anything if he gets a fair crack at it. Not sure what his pricetag is, but he is a good selection IMO.

tophawk

I have picked Menzel over Simpkin at this stage. Menzel is a gun. At 260K he is 37K more expensive than Simpkin. But after what I saw this weekend, the extra cash to get Menzel is worth it. He is obviously more injury prone, but if I he can stay on the park for a few months he would have pumped out some very big scores and done his job. A calculated risk worth taking. Cheers

Shak

Cheers guys!

Marco_Polo94

Quality review as always, interesting the De gooey mention – looked dynamite the other night, but i agree that with so many players to come back in his role in the midfield is uncertain. Don't think theres been a time while I've played super coach seriously where we had so many ruck rookie options!! Love the look of Cox but again look who comes back in – moore, cloke, and then there is the fact that corey Gault played an absolute rip snorter of a half of football!! Based on my picks last season I'm backing in my gut feelings as I missed out early rounds, so personally I'm feeling big seasons from both Mitch Robinson and Jack Viney.

Marco_Polo94

Also, some advice I received on this page a while back that helped me out a lot when it came to initial team selections.. STRUCTURES! Get that down pat and it really does simplify a lot of super coach. Then it is just a matter of working out whether you want a Fyfe or a Danger… or BOTH!!

Adam

Thoughts and advice wanted for my team!
keeping rookies to myself πŸ˜‰
B: Laird, KK, Doc, Burgoyne, Weitering, M. Brown (ess) (2 rookies)
M: Danger, Pendles, GAJ, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Parish, Menadue (3 Rookies)
R: Goldy, Nic Nat (M.Cox)
F: Martin, Barlow, Cyril, Simpkin, Milera, Kerridge (2 Rookies)

I know the forward line is weak and that will be the first thing upgraded in season if this is my team. Thank in advance

Marco_Polo94

Not bad, personally wouldn't touch Cyril for the life of me.

SC_Beast

Burgoyne is interesting, haven't seen him in many teams. Seems super consistent, the only problem is he plays in a team who share the ball around a lot and hence doesn't get those monster scores. I see burgoyne averaging 80-90.

Adam

trying to go for a bit of POD with both of the mentioned players here, still having doubts on both of them.

not sure if a bartel or a rich would be better for Burgoyne
or maybe a chad wingard for Cyril?
still a few decisions before the season!
Thanks guys πŸ™‚

@grayson_lowee

I'd honestly pick someone like a Bartel over Burgoyne, but if you're going for a POD then the best of luck of to you.

AverageAdsy

Yeah I am starting to think that will be that safer option! thanks πŸ™‚

derek

If Mitchell, Lewis or Hodge gets injured, then you should consider the silky one. He doesn't really play in the guts much anymore. last year whenever one of the other three didn't play, Burgoynes numbers were outstanding, otherwise he will be 65-70 this year.

AverageAdsy

and Lewis does get reported atleast 7 times a year πŸ˜‰ haha

lolattack

Def: Laird, Bartel, Yeo, B. Smith, Malceski, M. Brown (Ess), (M. Brown (WC), Hartley)

Mid: Fyfe, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Liberatore, B. Crouch, Parish, Gresham (Gore, Cuningham, Mathieson)

Ruck: Martin, Naitanui (Cox)

For: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Simpkin, Kerridge (Petracca, Grimley)

Any suggestions are welcome πŸ™‚

SC_Beast

I wouldn't touch Smith at this stage, hasn't proven anything this pre season.

lolattack

surely he will bounce back at some stage, mate?

AverageAdsy

I thought the same, but just doesn't seem to be getting that running half back role anymore we were used too.
seems to be playing up the ground a lot more and not helping us Supercoaches πŸ™

DuckingTigers

That was a common and frustrating theme last year.

Adam

You have spent a lot of money in the backline, id suggest downgrading Malceski to a rookie.
This will allow you to upgrade maybe a Greene to a full Premo forward, Unless you are happy with Greene that is πŸ˜‰ ive had him in and out of my team but thought to go with the Premo option.
Good team though πŸ™‚

lolattack

i've thought that too mate, but there don't seem to be too many good rookies in the backline so i'd rather field more mid and forward rookies who are more likely to score well

Holty

i like your team but i question the backline. Yeo Smith and Malceski are risks. They could have great years but doubtful all will. Id select 1, maybe 2 because if they all fail to fire, you will struggle for the rest of the year trying to correct it.

Luke

Any advice much appreciated. Stuff all cash left.

D: Shaw, laird, bartel, aish, byrne-jones, brown (ess). Hibberd, broad.
M: fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, rockliff, parker, libba, mills, parish. Keays, mathieson, McPherson.
R: goldy, gawn. Grimley.
F: Barlow, zmerrett, Greene, wells, kerridge, petracca. Cox, mcdonald-tip.

Do I downgrade Shaw to to someone like simpson and upgrade a merrett or Greene to a dusty? Like the merrett selection as a bit of POD and he has been in my team since the first draft.

Jambo

My evaluation of this year's SuperCoach crop is as follows:
1. Midfield will likely look similar for most teams but a plethora of options to score well. So it'll be easy to pick.
2. Defence could make-or-break our seasons. So, we may have to stay with the tried-and-true.
3. The Forward line has enough value available to maintain interest but enough traps to separate the good from the great players.
4. Like the Ruck, could make or break our seasons. There are a dearth of value so, the set and forget may be best. A saying comes to mind that just because somethings good doesn't mean it is better or best for us. For example, just because Lobbe's gonna play doesn't mean we should pick him over Goldstein.
If we use our common sense, we shall do well.

AverageAdsy

POD players will be huge this year, like you said a lot of mids will look the same, so getting those POD will separate the good from the best!
avoiding those traps and picking the correct PODs is whats its about this year in my opinion!

Ethan017

Love ya work buddy

@grayson_lowee

Thoughts on my team? Any comments would be appreciated πŸ™‚

Def:
KK, J.Bartel, B.Smith, M.Brown (WCE) , S.Collins, R.Bonner, (M.Hartley, K.Collins)

Mid:
P.Dangerfield, G.Ablett, S.Pendelbury, T.Rockliff, O.Wines, E.Yeo, T.Liberatore, S.Kerridge, (D.Gore, C.Petracca, D.Cuningham)

Ruck:
T.Goldstein, M.Gawn, (S.Grimley)

Fwd:
H.Bennell, C.Wingard, M.Barlow, D.Wells, W.Milera, M.Brown (ESS), (N.Kommer, M.Cox)

18.7k left in the bank, am kinda feeling like im going to miss out on both the crouch brothers and J.O'Meara, but i feel like this team should do alright, and im hoping D.Wells can prove to be a bit of a POD, and ill probably upgrade him later in the year.

AverageAdsy

I think you've spent a bit too much $$ in the mids, id downgrade Yeo to a rookie and spend a bit more in the back line.
id also put petracca in the FWD, there is better options in the mid to replace him.
also swap grimley with cox to strengen the forward line as grimley will probably have a better chance at round 1.
that's only my opinion so take it as you please πŸ™‚

@grayson_lowee

Thanks adsy πŸ™‚ what midfield rookies did you have in mind to replace petracca?

SC_Beast

Mathieson, lock him in.

AverageAdsy

well you could go Parish who will more than likely play round 1 due to the Essendon scandal that's if you have the $$, or you could go a cheaper option ive liked Menadue, Gresham, Mathieson and Macpherson over the NAB, just keep watching the rookies over the rest of the NAB and choose a player that you like that features in the round 1 line ups πŸ™‚

@grayson_lowee

Changed around some players, this is the new lineup, anything else you can suggest?

Def:
KK, R.Laird, E.Yeo, M.Brown (WCE) , S.Collins, R.Bonner, (M.Hartley, K.Collins)

Mid:
P.Dangerfield, G.Ablett, S.Pendelbury, T.Rockliff, O.Wines, L.Parker, T.Liberatore, S.Kerridge, (D.Gore, R.Mathieson, D.Cuningham)

Ruck:
T.Goldstein, M.Gawn, (S.Grimley)

Fwd:
H.Bennell, C.Wingard, M.Barlow, C.Petracca, M.Adams, M.Brown (ESS), (N.Kommer, M.Cox)

AverageAdsy

I still think there is abit too much spent in the middle, id downgrade either parker or wines to another rookie and spend a little bit more in backline or forward line.

M.Brown (W/C) he will play games but he wont have much effect on a SC side. change him.

your premium players are good selections but maybe change a few rookies after NAB and round 1 teams are out.
watch Bennell closely.

don't forget to swap grimley and Cox to have another scoring player at FWD
you wont need a scoring emergency ruck with that combination.

@grayson_lowee

Thanks again adsy, switched brown (WC) to Weitering, although im very unsure, as i dont think he is worth the 220k, im still toying around with my team as we speak, i also switched barlow to Z.Merret and goldstein to S.Martin, with the idea that ill sideways trade him to goldstein when his price drops. Im also very conflicted as to whether i downgrade L.Parker or O.Wines, both look very good this year, who would you recommend?

Ethan017

for me too much spent in the midfield with Danger, Ablett and pendles downgrade one of them for a Parker and Yeo is an awkward midfielder much rather rate him as a defender

Liam

Need some help community.
Pendles and Merrett/Franklin
or
Parker and Montagna.
Leaning towards option 2, but not sure if Parker is going to be a top 10 mid.

SC_Beast

Well will Merret/Franklin be a top 10 forward?

Liam

I'm not sure, I can see them averaging 90-100 but not sure if they will get there.
What are your thoughts?

Ethan017

Not a fan of Montagna
personal view Pendles and Merrett but there are much better options out
I'm assuming one is forward and other midfield. How about a bit of Dusty and Parker which generates cash for an upgrade somewhere else
Good luck buddy

Liam

Already have Dusty. ho do you suggest then, you have 1,135,000 to choose to players.
I have Danger, Fyfe, rocky, Gaj in the mids, then Dusty and Barlow in the forward line.

wombatsfc

Lobb?
Lobbe is obviously a trap but what about Rory?
McCarthy is still at home in WA, Cameron has a young Jack Riewaldt attitude and is consistently breaking down and, Giants need a permanent structure up front, Rory is the current and obvious choice. Add his ruck capacity when mummy is busted or resting and his Team High 105 SC points in NAB1 and suddenly the next giants game has significant supercoach relevance.

ADRIAN

Thoughts on my team fellas

DEF: Kolodashnij, bartel,birchall, aish, dea, brown (tucker, bonner)
MID: Fyfe, dangerield, gablett, rockliff, libba crocuh, parish, gresahm(MEngeola, phillips,long)
RUCK: Goldstein, nic nat (cox)
FWD: MArtin. barlow, z mrret, jack billings, petracca, kerridge (grimley,kommer)

Thoughts would be much appreciated!
and also don't know about millings could get rid of him for wells then go crouch to parker – cheers fellas

Ethan017

Need some help

Rate my team if you could

Backline
Laird, Yeo, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Brown (bombers) (Bonner, Broad)

Midfield
Fyfe, Ablett (c), Josh Kennedy, Rocky, Parker, Libba, B.Crouch, Parish (Petracca, Keays, Mathieson)

Ruck
Goldy, Z.Smith (Grimley)

Forward
Dusty, Barlow, Greene, Conca, Simpkin, Kerridge (Komner, Cox)

Liam

Too many mid-pricers for me, I would personally look at downgrading and upgrading a couple.

@grayson_lowee

Not sure about parish and weitering, just statistically most number 1 draft picks havent been very good for SC, and i cant see them scoring any better than a rookie, id downgrade them both to 100-125k rookies and upgrade z.smith if possible, just tthought id help you out as well considering you helped on mine πŸ™‚

Westy

Team keeps changing. Must stop. Any comments welcome.
DEF Laird, Rampe, Sheridan, Weitering, M Brown (E), S Collins, (K Collins, Hartley)
MID Fyfe, Ablett, Kennedy, Rockliff, M Crouch, Libba, Trengove, Kerridge (Petracca, Mathieson, Hibberd)
RUC Goldstein, Gawn (Cox)
FWD Martin, Zorko, Barlow, Billings, D Menzel, Milera (Menadue, Grimley)