NAB ANALYSIS: Brisbane V Gold Coast

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Jock Reynolds Coach KingsSpent a wonderful late afternoon here at Burpengary.

Just missed the first bounce after coming across in the chopper after the Adelaide v West Coast game in Unley. Was windy as anything over here and things were a bit untidy.

Again – shitload of players missing from each team and to be frank didn’t extract a great deal of relevance out of this one. A few young kids bobbed up worth talking about.

Let’s get into it.

Missing from teams best 22:

Brisbane (15): Stefan Martin, Tom Rockliff, Dayne Beams, Claye Beams, Josh Green, Allen Christensen, Dan McStay, Zorko The Magnificent, Ryan Bastinac, Daniel Rich, Pearce Hanley, Justin Clarke, Daniel Merrett, Harris Andrews.

Gold Coast (11): Gary Ablett, Jaeger O’Meara, David Swallow, Jack Martin (slight back niggle at training), Trent McKenzie, Brandon Matera, Jarrad Grant, Matt Rosa, Dion Prestia, Jarrod Harbrow, Adam Saad

BRISBANE LIONS

Rhys Mathieson MID $117K They might have found one here. Had it 13 times with 2 clearances and 7 contested possessions. Did his round 1 selection chances no harm. Magnificent goal early and kicked another in the second half. 70 Supercoach points. Higgo was extremely aroused by what he saw today:

Jackson Paine FWD $128K Not clean enough with his disposal today which doesn’t bode well for early selection. Kicking in particular was pretty ordinary. Spoke to the kid at 3/4 time. Told him to keep his chin up. He was absolutely crapping himself. May have just been early nerves.

Tom Bell FWD $484K Pretty bloody good in his first game in Lions colours! Very hard to get overly aroused – he’s the type who will put his best on the park regardless of whether we’re talking NAB or the real deal. Big POD FWD selection not on my watch list at this stage. 20 touches today spending some time on the bench in the last half.

Archie Smith RUC $117K Look – he held his own today! Very solid considering he was up against Currie and Nicholls who both have some good senior footy under their belt. 15 disposals, 4 tackles, and a good 17 odd hitouts. Impressed by Archie. Has risen up my ruck bench watch list.

Ben Keays MID $117K Had 15 touches and looked ok. Can’t see him getting early games in the lion midfield.

Mitch Robinson FWD/MID $500K Captained the Lions today and was probably one of the best today. 14 touches including 3 clearances to half time. Interesting POD as a FWD selection but not for me.

Jarrad Jansen MID $124K Big body on him.. started ok but ended with just the 3 handballs.

Josh Clayton DEF/MID $124K Very quiet. Plenty of game time but just couldn’t find the ball enough. 2 handballs and a goal. Better than 1 handball. He’ll improve from here. Good kid, could be one for next season.

Josh Schache FWD $216K Will be a monolith. Not this season but will kick a lot of goals throughout his career.

Eric Hipwood DEF/FWD $162K, Matt Hammelmann DEF/FWD $117K, Reuben William DEF $102K Didn’t show much

GOLD COAST

Darcy MacPherson MID $102K 108 impressive Supercoach points. Probably one of the more impressive young kids on the park today. Love his attack on the ball and tackles like a wounded dog. Loved his tackling endeavour and Rocket would have as well. Big mop of blonde hair. Looks a likely type. Has got a few tricks in his bag, can take a contested mark, great competitor at ground level.. we could just see this kid early on in the season for the Suns. 12 disposals, 8 of them contested and a trouser stretching 10 tackles! A find.

Peter Wright FWD $187 A solid 89 Supercoach to the big fella. One bloke they are looking at to fill part of the void left by Charlie Dixon. Showed a bit today and could be in line for Round 1 selection. 11 disposals, 4 tackles and a goal. Really coming on in leaps and bounds – one contested mark in particular in the second quarter had me off my seat taking notice. 203cm. 100kgs and great on the deck.

Kade Kolodjashnij DEF $482K Was gagging to see him here today. Bitterly disappointed with what he bought to the table here today. 6 disposals. Didn’t lay a tackle. He is in my backline at the moment and I’ll be watching him extremely closely for the rest of the NAB. 45 Supercoach points today.

Matt Rosa DEF/MID $419K Being discussed in some circles as a defence POD option. Ball gathering ability is proven. He was effective at both ends of today, rebounding the ball out of the back half and also injecting it forward on occasion. On my extended watch list after a solid showing here today. 98 Supercoach points.

Nick Malceski DEF $383K 10 disposal at 50% efficiency. Needs to work harder. Did some silly and bloody lazy things. At one point in the 3rd quarter he woofed one out of bounds on the full under no real pressure. He really needs to come out this year and work his arse off. Might have had an off day but I remain not tempted by this price. 36 miserable Supercoach points.

Tom Nicholls RUC $439K What impressed me most about Nicholls today was his ability to run and gather ball. At times was like an additional midfielder for the Suns and that surprised me. He’s either worked hard on that part of his game over summer of just haven’t been watching him closely enough. Impressive performance by Tom. Extremely difficult to find a place for him in any of your fantasy teams – although could be a nice CoachKings smokey throughout the season. 22 hitouts, 11 disposals and 5 clearances.

Clay Cameron DEF $170 Some good signs down back, then switched forward but missed some opportunities. Fringe dweller at Gold Coast and needs to show more during the rest of the NAB to stake a claim in the best 22. Don’t write him off just yet.

Daniel Currie RUC $163K 17 hitouts and only a handful of touches for 70 Supercoach points. Just can’t see him landing a regular AFL rucking position. Depth option only. Scratched off my ruck bench option list.

Ryan Davis MID $102K Looked ok but not a kid I can see getting an early game. 9 possessions and a nice goal by the kid.

Tom Keough FWD/MID $126K Very quiet, just the 3 kicks 2 handballs.

Jarrod Garlett FWD $185K Just OK – 9 possessions. Cant see him as an option at this price and with the impact he had on the game.

Over to you community – did you like the look of any of these kids?


67 Comments

Tophawk · 21/02/2016 at 19:19

Very impressed with Darcy Mc Pherson (Gold Coast), Rhys Mathieson, Wayne Milera (Adelaide) and Dean Gore (Adelaide) today. Mathieson is a lock at this stage. The others will be very close to selection if they continue this form. Corey Adamson (WCE) and Mathew Allen I will be watching closely during NAB cup. (Def/Mid dpp) Both looked pretty solid today in a undermanned eagles side.

    jockreynolds · 21/02/2016 at 19:22

    Great stuff TopHawk – some good kids unearthed themselves today. Bloody hard to extract too much out of the weekend though with some of the second string teams that hit the park

      Tophawk · 21/02/2016 at 19:33

      I agree Jock. Most of the NAB games gave me very little conviction about the rookies that hit the park. Exceptions being Kerridge (Lock) and Callum Mills. Both looked the goods. Mills a bit pricey at 211K. Just not quite sold on him yet being a starter in round one for the Sydney. Will be watching him very closely in the next two NAB games. Cheers Jock

magpie4ver · 21/02/2016 at 19:21

Another tough one to gauge or evaluate rookies and other players. Have to see the next 2 NAB Challenges.

Nick Hanlon · 21/02/2016 at 19:23

Jesse Lonergan looked one of the Suns best today. Very awkwardly priced at $345,300 but could be a nice POD in defence. Breakout contender and on the watchlist.

    jockreynolds · 21/02/2016 at 19:24

    Had him on the write up list – I just thank that price is a bit awkward for him and could be a big trap for some of the kids. Was impressive today though I agree Nicko.

Mac · 21/02/2016 at 19:27

Most of my backline hasn't done much today! KK, Yeo, Smith. Very disappointing.

    Tophawk · 21/02/2016 at 19:37

    Likewise! Not hitting the panic button just yet. I am expecting a better showing for all three next time they hit the park. Early days.

    Jackwatt$ · 21/02/2016 at 19:42

    Guess that's what happens when you choose a few unproven players. I've been quite happy with my backline so far: Simpson, Howe, Sheridan, Tucker to name a few

      neil · 21/02/2016 at 23:23

      howe Sheridan tucker proven don't think so why did you call yourself jack watts another unproven player maybe proven def are rance all aust houli shaw macdonald laird all proven not hacks or kids

    Redgumwon · 21/02/2016 at 19:57

    Had the same problem. I had KK, Yeo and Malceski. All gone now for Rosa, Birchall and I'm really toying with McDonald at North. What do you guys think about McDonald as an option.
    My backline would be

    Bartel, Birchall, Rosa, McDonald, Brown (Ess) Broad, Hartley, Bonner

      Swans2012 · 21/02/2016 at 20:32

      I like McDonald, seems undervalued

        Swans2012 · 21/02/2016 at 20:35

        Pending next couple of nab of course but seems like he might have turned the corner

        hedeski · 22/02/2016 at 00:24

        I agree swans 100k less than eski and hungry

      Vinnymac · 22/02/2016 at 04:19

      I like McDonald too.

    Stirlsy · 22/02/2016 at 01:47

    Same here Mac but I agree with Tophawk, no need to sack anyone yet still early days, seen a lot of ppl jumping the gun today switching off KK, Yeo, Smith, and Malceski, most off of Smith.

BigHaydos · 21/02/2016 at 19:31

I agree with Old mate Earl, Cant see Claye Beams being in their best 22.

I was impressed with Mathieson, knows how to milk a free and really got the ball moving on a few occassions. Its just hard to tell whos where on the park if you pencil in the best 22. Ive had the same frustration all weekend. Whilst its great to see the rookies and guys looking for a regular call up, it doesnt mean a whole lot if they arent playing with their best 22 team mates.

Im curious to see whether Gore gets regular games at adelaide
Im also curious to see what Ross Lyon does with young Tucker, could be a great defence option,
Callum Mills looks likely to play alot of senior footy along with Sam Kerridge.
Bonner and Broad showed promising signs this weekend.

It will be very nice to get a better idea of what rookie priced players their respective coaches are keen to give regular jobs too. After all rookies are the bread and butter of a good supercoach team.

Anyways Jock, My team for now:

Defence: Boyd, Mcveigh, Enright, Wagner, Bonner, Broad, Tucker, Collins

Midfield: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Libby, Mills, Gore, Mathieson, Cuningham, Macpherson

Ruck: Goldmember, Lobbe, Chol

Forwards: Delideo, Martin, Barlow, Wells, Petracca, Kerridge, Brown(essendon), Grimley

I know your not a fan of the Daniel Wells pick but he is my choice for the high risk high reward position in my team. Everyone else is pretty safe i would like to think. 13 keepers thus far (lids, martin, barlow, goldy, ablett, pendles, danger, fyfe, libby(m8), rockliff, boyd, enright, mcveigh)

When choosing my keepers I went for proven performers who have delivered for a while. I have 19k left in the kitty at this stage and structures could change depending on rookies popping up.

Huge fan of yourself, Higgo, Crouching, Lekdog and Barron. Keep up the great work mate and looking forward to hearing how Higgo is going with the Mrs later tonight on the podcast

Haydos

Liam · 21/02/2016 at 19:38

Thoughts on Luke McDonald ?
He had a great game yesterday and looked really clean with his disposal of half-back.
I can see him doing what KK did and jumping to that next level.

    Redgumwon · 21/02/2016 at 20:12

    I liked what I saw yesterday. He looks to have gotten fitter and is working harder. He's into his third year and will want to cement his place in the side after an average year last year

      Swans2012 · 21/02/2016 at 20:44

      Agree, looked better than yeo Macmillan malceski and kk, although it is only week 1. I think I've pencilled him in for now

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 21/02/2016 at 20:37

    Yeah liked his first game for 2016, put his best foot fwd for a d4 fighting with names like aish, howe, oz etc.

    Liam · 21/02/2016 at 20:54

    Some other options in defence im looking at are Simpson, Enright and Rance.
    All seemed to be overlooked, age is a problem with a couple though.

Vinny · 21/02/2016 at 19:39

I don't know who to choose now, with all the defenders who were highest on my radar so far not performing. Macmillan, B.Smith, Yeo and now KK. Who are some other options around this price range 400-500 I should look more into?

    BigHaydos · 21/02/2016 at 19:43

    I had this headache for a while and decided to restructure my team to have proven defenders that are generally in the top ten everyyear. ive got mcveigh, enright and boyd. all solid. Im not playing with fire

      Derek · 21/02/2016 at 20:42

      Why didn't Rich play today?

        Stirlsy · 22/02/2016 at 02:16

        Just management Derek, Lions have had a few intra club games, where most other clubs have only had the 1 with more match simulation being their focus.
        Surprising that neither QLD team played a stronger line up tho since they were both at home.

      fatboyfat7 · 22/02/2016 at 17:02

      McVeigh won't be ready for Rd 1 or so I heard…

    Redgumwon · 21/02/2016 at 20:20

    Birchall, Laird, Langdon they say he is training going well. Williams, Rampe, Wood and Rosa

    Dan · 21/02/2016 at 20:23

    Relax its one game

TRIGGER HAPPY · 21/02/2016 at 19:55

I've been saying all week in NAB we trust but really didn't reveal too much this week with most of the big boys missing, and the mid pricers not screaming "pick me".

Saw alot of rooks who looked ok but most had stage fright or struggled with the step up in tempo (even if NAB) but only early days.

Ones who r in my team and confirmed their selection are kerridge, mattheson and Gresham and to a lesser extent mcpherson if gets an upgrade.

The one that did scream "pick me" who i thought was too dear but may have to find the cash is mills. Horse has stated that he would like the lad to fill the void in the back line left by shaw, jetta and mal. The only one missing who could take this role off him was mcveigh but he might be the general back there and not the rebounding defender. Kid has some serious skills, great distributor and may b part of the 22 come rd 1.

Forked out over $200k for cripps last year and unless someone else starts screaming mills might just have his foot in the door.

    Swans2012 · 21/02/2016 at 20:42

    Agree feels like that reliable 80 ish rookie you want at m8, although it has only been 1 game

    Stirlsy · 22/02/2016 at 02:26

    Agree with everything you said Trigg, the kid can play and will get games right from the word go IMO, it's just the price that is the problem, but if the cheap options don't put there hand up a slight restructure might have to happen.

    DuckingTigers · 23/02/2016 at 21:32

    Not sure how a kid who's the designated distributor will go when clamped upon by a seasoned negating forward. If Heater can be kept quiet by a decent stopper you'd think a half decent stopper could stop the kid.

tim · 21/02/2016 at 20:02

hello jock
you didn't mention him in your write up, however i had a look and he played
could i just get your thoughts on Aaron Hall?
cheers jock hope you had nice weekend

Marcus · 21/02/2016 at 20:07

david Armitage a solid POD or is there someone better for the price

    Benjamima Puddleduck · 21/02/2016 at 22:19

    shhh dont give peeps to many ideas

Kev · 21/02/2016 at 20:10

I'm just stoked to have footy back and talking about it with this fantastic community!

Too many out on both sides to get a real good gauge out of the game. Rosa did what he needed to do to keep me interested.

Tom · 21/02/2016 at 21:13

so who are looking like the best/must have rookies so far in the midfield?

    Derek · 21/02/2016 at 22:09

    I'm staying away from rookies from the good teams. They won't get the game time opportunities or freedom on field that rookies from the weaker/building teams.

SCaddict · 21/02/2016 at 21:47

I'd caution coaches on falling too far in love with Matty Rosa. Has never averaged over 90pts in his 11 AFL years so pretty doubtful that he is premo defender material, especially now in the twilight of his career.

Also has averaged less than 15 games over the past 5 seasons which is Mumford-like durability.

So pick him at your peril folks!

    West · 21/02/2016 at 22:04

    Thinking the same here mate.

    He does present value but doubt he'll average enough to be a keeper. Was playing against kids with kids today aswell. O'meara, Ablett, Prestia and swallow all out

    DuckingTigers · 23/02/2016 at 21:35

    Last year's Griffen.

ivan burrows · 21/02/2016 at 22:38

i have yeo ,kadjoski,malcheski in my team. i think malcheski has passed his prime. can you name three better

Derek · 21/02/2016 at 23:02

I'm tossing up between two defence structures.

Shaw, McVeigh, Bartel, Smith, 4x rookies

Or

KK, Bartel, Yeo, Rich, Smith, 3x rookies

    CoachDamo · 21/02/2016 at 23:22

    I like option 1 but McVeigh worries me.

    Swans2012 · 22/02/2016 at 07:41

    Yeah I like option 1 but mostly because I don't like the uncertainty in option 2 (kk/Yeo/smith all need to show some more next couple IMO to be selected). Mcveigh a concern fitness wise and shaw too $$$ but at least they have 100+ history,defense is tough this year. I like bartel and maybe rich as starters but other than that,until I see mcveigh looking fit I just don't know….

      Derek · 22/02/2016 at 09:31

      defence is causing me the most confusion this year, exactly because of those issues, Shaw is expensive, McVeigh might not be ready and the mid-pricers are risks.

      last year i had a good set & forget defence with Ibbotson at D5, i was hoping to do the same, but if i have Shaw this year i may need to have two onfield rookies.

        Derek · 22/02/2016 at 09:44

        i might change McVeigh to Simpson

          Grahame Lebroy · 22/02/2016 at 10:38

          I would give McVeigh a wide berth to start, could be good upgrade.
          At this stage, my def strategy similiar to yours last year. I am not starting with Shaw and McVeigh.

MC · 21/02/2016 at 23:35

love me a bargain basement gun. Welcome to the team Darcy Macpherson

    Kev · 22/02/2016 at 07:44

    At 102k he'd be on the rookie list. Suns have room over the senior list?

      Kev · 22/02/2016 at 07:44

      On*

Stirlsy · 22/02/2016 at 02:51

I'd just stick with them, and have another look, but the 3 in those 3 price range would be Bartel, Rich, and one out of left field Salem from the Dee's quality ball user that im keen to look at during NAB games…Played only the 10 games last year due to stuffing he's hammy badly avg 74 but if you take the hammy game out that he tore early for 16 he avg 80.4 in 9 games, I can see him stepping it up to the 90 mark ….. Not in my team but on the radar as a risky POD in def.

    TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/02/2016 at 14:17

    Yeah after mals effort or lack of yesterday got me contemplating a switch and bullseye is firmly in the mix. See how they go over the next couple of weeks but mal would want to put in a better effort than Rd 1. Looking at getting at least 85 out of that spot.

Holty · 22/02/2016 at 08:10

Hi all. Ive been thinking about the KK selection. I have him at present but thinking it might be a big risk. with all of their midfielders back this year, will he be getting as much of the ball? the more i think about it, the more im heading towards Simpson or Bartel. anyone else have the same worries or you all locking KK in?

    Derek · 22/02/2016 at 09:34

    KK was in my early teams but i'm thinking he won't be there round 1. I was dissapointed his brother was over $300k this year, i was hoping he would have been a good option.

      'Don't Blush Babbie' · 22/02/2016 at 10:25

      I've swapped KK for Birchall and McVeigh for Simpson and picked up 60k and then upgraded Boyd to Shaw. Agee Derek the D is causing me the most worries too

    magpie4ver · 22/02/2016 at 09:58

    I have the same concern about KK. Think I might drop him.

      Swans2012 · 22/02/2016 at 11:05

      I'm with you, at his price I think it's safer to wait and see. Worst case scenario I can see has him tearing it up and needing to pay 550 odd for him. But still leaves that problem of finding a reliable defence option… I'm warming to rich l McDonald and maybe even aish, but gee it's wide open, 3 of about 15 possibles….

Derek · 22/02/2016 at 09:58

is anyone considering Van Berlo. $350k DPP. he looked ok on the weekend.

    'Don't Blush Babbie' · 22/02/2016 at 10:27

    I've gone L.McDonald in that spot @ 285k i know he's not DPP but I believe he has more upside IMO only

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/02/2016 at 14:19

      Yep liked what I saw. Currently in.

Bg G · 22/02/2016 at 12:12

Jesse Lonergan a break-out contender?

    'Don't Blush Babbie' · 22/02/2016 at 12:19

    He's in my team especially now that Eade has said that teams need 8 -9 mids playing with less bench rotations and J.Lonergan is in that group.

    Holty · 22/02/2016 at 12:51

    Agree. And as a defender/mid, he is sitting on the maybe in my team. He is at that very awkward price and although I think he will average at least 80, we cant guarantee what role he will play. He is a big body who loves getting the contested ball. Honestly, if he is guaranteed to play at least 60% in the midfield, he is a lock as I think he is better value than a lot of other mid pricers floating around.

      TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/02/2016 at 14:23

      Didn't realize he was a Def. Thanks. Another to keep a close eye on when the big guns return.

Liam · 22/02/2016 at 21:19

Smith and Parker
or
McDonald and danger ?

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