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POLL: $200K – $400K Ruck selections

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Jock Reynolds Coach KingsEvery Father needs to issue his offspring with some stern words occasionally.

As the Father of Fantasy Sport in this beautiful nation, and as the leader of our proud community there are times when I need to take all of you aside for some home truths. This is one of those times.

Don’t get all worked up. There will be no fire and brimstone here today. Just let me draw you all close to my bosom for a few words.

 

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I’m concerned about how many of you are approaching your ruck divisions. I’m seeing a trend which has me worried. Didn’t bloody sleep last night. You see – if you stuff your ruck division.. you can put a line through the 2016 season. It’s that simple.

I’m not as concerned about most of your R1 selections. I’m more worried about your R2’s. It’s always been my opinion that BOTH big bastards you slot into BOTH of your on field ruck slots need to be tried and tested. Clear #1 primary rucks at their respective teams. Durable. Consistent. Not necessarily a standout point scoring monolith. Just reliable and consistent.

Because let me tell you. A dodgy speculative R2 selection is a one way ticket to a season of disaster. Every trade you burn trying to fix a stuffed ruck division is a trade that could otherwise have been used to get your team to full premium before your competitors.

I’m not asking you not to look for value my beautiful community. I’m asking you to select 2 rucks who you are comfortable sitting there for the whole season.

Does Lobbe fit the bill here? Probably does. But I pray to the Fantasy Gods that you have him penned in at R2.

I’ll be by my computer here watching this poll unfold. You can select 2 of these mid pricers in the poll. For the sake of your fantasy season.. I hope you select 1. If you’re selecting 2 I hope you’re looking at your second on the bench for depth.

I love you all.

Jock Reynolds.

Which of these $200K - $400K rucks (pick max of 2) will you select IN YOUR RUCK LINE this season? (Do not select if you are selecting one of the DPPs in your FWD or DEF lines)

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Stiffy

Surely Lobbe will be in just about everyone's teams unless they are going double premo in the ruck?

Howeydamus

You’d think so. Leunberger I’d still way away from
I’m going the blicsavs and lobbe

Howeydamus

*stay away from

Peter56

You are the first person to say that. That has been my choice from the start.

Mallee Boy

Stiffy! Double promo for me – Martin & Jacobs

BarronVonCrow

Matty Lobbe is the obvious one, but for my 2nd choice I went with Jonathan Ceglar. Bit of an interesting choice now that Roughy is out and Hale has retired. Won't pick him, but I think he'll have a good year.

If you wanted to go cheap in the rucks (not that I recommend it!), pairing Lobbe up with Ceglar, or someone like Scott Lycett would be the way i'd go.

BarronVonCrow

It's tough to pick this year, especially if you don't pick Goldstein. The biggest problem I have is he was head and shoulders above every other ruckman last year that if you don't pick him, it almost locks you into a 1 Premo – 1 midprice situation so he's still an option. Basically if you go set and forget ruck you almost have to pony up the massive cash for Goldstein.

Say I went with Stefan Martin and Max Gawn this year. Both cost between $550K-$600K, so provided they're healthy I'll want them locked into my side all year. So I'm basically locking myself into a situation where I'm not going to bring Goldy in, because if I do then I'm using cash and trades to trade premium for premium, which is something you ideally don't want to do. Goldy is 20 points above the next best ruckman though, so at least if i go 1 premo/1 midpricer I've still got Goldstein locked in as a upgrade target and I'm doing the right thing by upgrading rookie/mid-pricers into premium players.

There's no right way to go I guess, unless you just lock in Goldy/Martin/NicNat/Gawn right from the start, but geez is it tough fitting that into the salary cap. Taking the extra $300K and moving from Goldy down to Lobbe and spreading that around is a big help.

Anthony 'Braveheart' Cohen

Great to see my thought process is matched by you! It hurts me to pay so much for Goldy but as you said, when your talking about the huge difference in avg scoring between top pick & 2nd top, there’s really only one option…lock in Goldy now! It this stage I’m going Lobbe R2. Then a DPP rookie at R3.

Derek

I agree. Goldy is expensive and will not go any higher and probably fall in price at some point. He has tough first 4 games, then an easy run of 6 games. I believe he is a must but the cash can be used elsewhere to generate the points you may miss by not having him. It’s all about getting points for your dollars early on.

Derek

I wouldn’t be against a sideways move in round 4 or 5. Might be a massive Shark move!

LuskinStar

Thats the problem, the run of 6 games 'easy' games. He will get 1 or 2 drops then start to climb. Will you be able to afford him before round 5? Unlikely. Take him now.

Derek

Goldy migh drop $60k. Lobbe might go up $60k. I’ll need $180k increase from a cash cow. In first 4 weeks, won’t happen.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Thinking along similar lines jock. My current team has goldy and martin. Massive spend but proven SC Gold. But no crouch. If crouch fires in Nab cup thinking of going goldy down to gawn and a rookie up to crouch in the middle. As crouch i think has to b in if fit. I had lobbe in for a while but can’t see him getting back to his best as was dropped last year and with the new scoring for rucks this had a big impact on his SC scores so think I will go with the two young guns who can run all day, tackle like men possessed and give their on ballers first use.

Derek

That’s the reason not to spend big. If you have Lobbe instead of Goldy, I agree that you will miss 20-40 pts, however that $300k can be spent elsewhere and easily earn 40 pts plus.

As the season goes, team values increase, the $ to Points ratio falls and this is when you need to go all premium.

Benjamima Puddleduck

'I will go with the two young guns who can run all day, tackle like men possessed and give their on ballers first use. '

Best comment i have seen on this thread, your a smart chappy

TRIGGER HAPPY

The 3 that fit the bill are goldy, stef and gawn after a big pre season. I have excluded blicavs as he can run all day but not sure what his role will be? In NAB we trust.

Zane

So you were one of the other 5 people that went cegs but you aren’t picking him, talk about a pod I like it

OldOcker

Still too early to lock anyone into my team as far as rucks are concerned.
I have Lycett in fwd line with Lobbe number 2 and Sam Grimley on the bench atm.
By no means is anyone locked.

Great advice from the Father of Fantasy.

OldOcker

Will be interesting to see who gets the main Ruck role at Geelong now that they have got Zac Smith.

Peter56

I have got Blicsavs and Lobbe as my ruck. gives me options to swing Blicsave into the forward line and upgrade to Goldy or upgrade Lobbe to him.

@Seekersupacoach

Peter just so you know: Blicavs is Ruck/Mid DPP, not Ruck/Fwd

Mac

G'day Jock! What did you think of Fantasia?

Gaveday

Boys- Fantasia and Plowman have been in and out of my team. Have you considered that latter?

Mac

G'day Jock, wouldn't mind having a looking at your team, and all the boys teams in fact! Thoughts on doing a team reveal soonish?

Mac

Jock check your twitter mate

Zane

Dam that was the one guy I was keeping to myself all well just validates my thought process so fantasia is becoming a reality

mikeyboy1990

I'm kind of new to this guys, but if I recall you use to have cheat sheets….are you still doing them ?

Shak

cheat sheets don't usually start getting put out till the nab challenge matches are underway

Shak

Thoughts on Vince and or Gaff as potential POD's this season?

wombatsfc

No half price bargains in the ruck for me this year Jock even if Lobbe shows during NAB that his 1 reasonable season years ago wasn't just a flash in the pan.

As per usual your advice is 100% correct and this year BOTH starting rucks should be keepers. We have 3 mid-priced gun mids to satisfy our madness cravings so there's no need to go nuts in the ruck as well.

@emhoy

I think lobbe is fools gold he has only ever played a full season once, if he was low $300K I might consider him but nudging $400K i would rather spend the extra cash and lock in Nit Nat, Jacobs or Martin if you can afford him and Goldy. I currently have Goldy and Nit Nat.

Vinnie

Blicavs and Sinclair for me. Could’ve picked Lycett also. Cox on the bench.

Grahame Lebroy

What about Kruuuzzzz?? Meant to be having his best pre season. Although he has burnt me before

DuckingTigers

When it comes to Kreuzer, think "Titanic".

Grahame Lebroy

*Kreuz

TJM

Nic Nat, Devon Smith and a rookie or Lobbe, Dahlhaus, Simpkin?

Top Hawk

Could you afford Nic Nat, (r1) Lobbe (r2), Dahlhaus, and Simpkin? Then that covers 4 out of 6 players. I would go for that.

TJM

I want to keep Goldy at R1 though.

Top Hawk

Then it would have to be Lobbe, Dahlhaus and Simpkin. By spending 695K on Goldy, you will need to be frugile with the rest of your ruck and spend the enough on your midfield. Cheers

Top Hawk

In order, which Sydney midfielder is the best pick? (JPK, Hannebery, Mitchell and Parker) Take into consideration player price and any player injury issues.

Stiffy

I think Kennedy and Hanners are super durable, then again so was Parker until he had a head clash. I think teams will tag Hanners. I like JPK

Top Hawk

Thanks Stiffy. I also like Luke Parker. At $538K he is very nicely priced. JPK is good value at $594K, but Hanners is pricey at $617K and like you say could be a tag target. Mitchell at $563K is a bit of a risk IMO. Although, he is apparently training the track down. Luke Parker is an absolute gun. His headclash derailed his 2015 season. If fully fit, has a solid NAB cup, and with a 538K pricetag, he is a very tempting POD option for my midfield.

Cheers

Derek

JPK is a stoppage beast. He appears from nowhere and gets a little handball and just keeps racking up points.

Has been in my team for past 3 years. No complaints.

Top Hawk

I agree Derek. I am tossing up between JPK and Parker. I have just enough cash to slot in JPK, but an extra 56K could come in very handy in strengthening another line. An in form Parker is capable of racking up consistent big scores. I will watch them both during the NAB cup matches. If I am not 100% convinced in Parker, then I won't risk it. Will play JPK.

Derek

I have JPK in the top 8 mids. Parker is on the next level with Sloane, Lewis, Gray etc. I only want top 8 in my team.

Billys Ex

I think Gray will be Top 8

TRIGGER HAPPY

Agree he’s in my team

TRIGGER HAPPY

Been tossing up with JPK but pretty hard to pass up so if he is good enough for u he’s in 🙂

Top Hawk

Thanks Stiffy. I also like Luke Parker. At $538K he is very nicely priced. JPK is good value at $594K, but Hanners is pricey at $617K and like you say could be a tag target. Mitchell at $563K is a bit of a risk IMO. Although, he is apparently training the track down. Luke Parker is an absolute gun. His headclash derailed his 2015 season. If fully fit, has a solid NAB cup, and with a 538K pricetag, he is a very tempting POD option for my midfield.

Jackson

There's not much in it but I'd say
1.JPK 2.Hannebery 3.Parker 4.Mitchell
But in DT Mitchell would be number 1, like I said there's nothing in it

steve

het guys, pommy question, why cant you go nick nat and sinclair and upgrade, or do they not make enough money…….?

Derek

Takes extra trades. They become very valuable, so don’t want to waste them

TJM

Thoughts on Bont, Armitage and Beams?

CoachDamo

I think Beams is a good option, although it'd be nice to see if he has fully recovered after his shoulder issues late last year. The Bont seems too expensive, especially given that the likes of Rockliff, Parker, Adams and Wines are available at lower prices.

Stirlsy

Beams is super consistent and im not seeing him in many teams, agree with Damo have to have a look how that shoulder looks when he steps out in NAB hasn't been involved in any of lions 3 intra club practice games.

Secret Stiffy Stuff

Bonts young, Armitage would be in and out and done in mere minutes, whilst Beams is the quiet type who would surprise you with late night girth…

Jackson

Gday Jock, I'm not one to question my elders but you say our R2 must be consistent and durable (excellent advice) but then you say you have Max Gawn there who has never played more than a dozen games in a season. Through all your wisdom do you know something about the lad that we don't? FWIW if you're talking about consistency and durability for you're ruckman I reckon Goldie & Jacobs pick themselves.

DuckingTigers

Jackson, after he was given a fitness lesson by Goldstein last year he apparently vowed he would take his fitness to a new level in 2016. By all accounts this has been achieved. He's locked for me.

Grahame Lebroy

Being a long suffering Dees fan I hope your right. But its a big spend on a bloke with his injury history. Hasn’t played more than 13 games a season in 4 yrs.

Stiffy

lachie neale anyone?

Derek

I’ve got Fyfe and Barlow. Too much purple already

Stiffy

I don't have Fyfe at this point in time, trying to squeeze him in but that would mean downgrading Simpkin and upgrading Priddis and I don't know if thats worth it.

Keenbutclueless

The other comment I would make about Lobbe potentially being fools gold is that he made his 100 average in 2014 BEFORE they changed the scoring system for ruck men. So would that 100 average in 2014 stack upon 2015. Also, look at his games last year when Ryder didn’t play. Mediocre at best.

LEKD0G

Goldy R1, probably Martin R2 but currently tinkering with Lobbe at R2 and Leuey at F4

Stiffy

G'day Lek! With Martin at r2 does that mean you went light on other lines? Whats your team look like thus far?

LEKD0G

Big rucks, big mids, very little at the book ends

SCaddict

Sounds like we have very similar teams Lek in terms of structure if not personnel.

I was the other way with the rucks, initially having Martin at R1 and Lobbe at R2 with Leuey up forward. But now coming around to the Goldy Martin 'power couple'.

Whilst Goldy will be significantly cheaper at some point during the season I'm not sure I want to miss out on North's great early draw so I may just shell out the extra coin for him upfront and be done with it. I generally refuse to pay overs for anyone but with Goldy I just might make that exception damn it!

Keenbutclueless

I know Lek’s team will be more interesting, and we will see it in his team reveal (hopefully), but to help answer your question, you can still put together a good team with Goldy and Martin. I have 2 versions – with and without Crouch. Even with Libba and Crouch, I think this is still strong

Def. shaw, Macmillan, rampe, Aish, Byrne, Hartley (Collins, broad)
Mid. Danger, Ablett, gray, rocky, Adams, Libba, crouch, Cunningham (Keays, Mathewson, Davis)
Ruck. Goldy, Martin (wyatt)
Fwd. Martin, dahlhaus, Tippett, kerridge, petracca, grimly, (brown, galluci)

Still with 40k cash.

Yes, it relies on Aish at F4, and needs the lower price rookies to perform. But I am still only running 6 on field, have depth in my mids and 3 keepers (imo) on both def and fwd lines.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Geez same starting 8 in mids and same rucks then we differ on the other lines. 🙂

Derek

Except for rookies, we only have 4 the same. Great minds don’t think alike 😉

Keenbutclueless

I know we end up with different people, but I look out for your posts because your thought processes are solid.

Patch

Tippett's one bloke I've got my eye very firmly on, Keen. Not sure on the backline, and but the rest of that is looking rock solid mate.

Keenbutclueless

Thanks Patch. It was KK and Bartel instead of Macmillan and Rampe. Had a real close look at Macmillan and his second half of 2015 was arousing. Rampe is a bit of a gut feel because he is in prime breakout territory.

Kevin Skywalker

Quite like Rampe with Shaw Gone

Kevin Skywalker

Initially I was considering Sinclair either as R2 or F3 but already think the swans will continue to use Tippett about 50% of the time in ruck and for Sinclair to be truly relevant he needs to be the one out ruck

@lewiswgrant

They (Goldy/Martin) both have the same bye round…

Frank Sinatra

Hi guys. I’d like some thoughts on my team and some opinions on these risky players: Dale Thomas. Rich, Gibbs, Greene, Malceski

Def: Bartel, Yeo, Rich, Malceski, Hartley, Brown///Bonner,rice
Mid: Ablett. Pendlebury, Josh Kennedy, Rockliff, Gibbs, liberators, Kerridge, Keays// Cunningham, Rookie rookie
Ruck: Jacobs, Lobbe/// Cox
Forward: Martin, Barlow, Franklin, Greene, Bird, Dale thomas/// Petracca, Rookie

Jackson

Hi Frank very solid team buddy, the only picks I'd question are the 5 you've mentioned
Thomas: Unless he tears the NAB a new one, I'd downgrade him to rookie. (That way you can get Petracca on field too)
Rich: 50/50. Only has to ave 90 to be a solid pick which he has done before
Gibbs: No…Id use the $ on Thomas to upgrade him to a guaranteed premium midfielder
Greene: I'm not sold, although many are.
Malceski: See Rich.

Deadly

Don't listen to them Frank, do it your way.

Derek

I’m warming to having Rich as my D4. Genuine midfielder who has DEF status. Not sure if he is D3 material (Keeper)

Vinny

Current Team:
SHAW, MACMILLAN, YEO, MALCESKI, HARTLEY, M.BROWN (WAGNER, FRANCIS)

DANGER, PENDLES, GAJ, WINES, LIBBA, CROWLEY, PARISH, GRESHAM (CUNICO, MATHIESON, PETRACCA)

GOLDSTEIN, NICNAT (COX)

RIOLI, HARVEY, FRANKLIN, STRINGER, CURNOW, KERRIDGE (SUMNER, KOMMER)

56k LEFT
WOULD LIKE SOME ADVICE ON THE RUCKS, ONLY WENT WITH THEM BECAUSE NOT SATISIFED WITH LOBBE OR LEUEY.
The forwards are bit lesser premiums but Harveys average of 90 was majorly affected by a few sub games and now that, that is gone watch out. Also his teammate macmillan is another smokey of mine, i think only aged 22 due for a big year, especially watching him in the NMFC vs RICH last home and away season game. Anyways would appreciate advice, mainly the rucks though, thanks Vinny 🙂

Jackson

Your rucks are good Vinny, not much to worry about there.
MacMillan could make or break you, very highly rated but has never played a full season.
Crowley is interesting. If he escapes the tagging role he could have Liam Picken like year
An average of 90 for a player of Harvey's age is extraordinary. Hear what you're saying about sub but I don't nesscarily think his tog will go up because of it.
Stringer could make or break you too depending on how much midfield time he sees, no question about his ability.

Derek

Rioli is a shark move. Love it

DuckingTigers

Twang.

JSS

Hi jock thoughts on my team at the moment
Bartel yeo smith Malceski m.brown bonner: rice k.collins
Pendles Ablett JPK Rockliff wines Libba crouch parish: keays hibberd j.beech
Saudi lobbe: nyoun
Zorko wingard Barlow T.Greene C.Ah Chee petracca: kerridge kommer

Bobby

I'm honestly torn wether spending big on the rucks is good or not. Community, HELP ME!!!

Patch

Saves you a massive pain in the neck later, Bobby. The value is mostly fool's gold. Lobbe is worth a look but beyond that I'm having none of it in my ruck line.

Dean

I agree I had Goldy & Lobbe at first, then got rid of Lobbe and put in Nic Nat but I am sticking with two Premo's in my Ruck in Goldy & Blicvas – or Goldy & Martin Granted Goldy will not go up in price however when you look into Goldy's statistic's last year, such as: Goldy's 2015 SC score's: 100, 154, 110, 154, 92, 100, 98, 44, 134, 128, 136, 150, 148, 140, 221, 127, 164, 155, 122, 116, 102 Goldy had 13 games where he scored 120+ Goldy had 3 games that were sub 100 and in two of those he scored 92 & 98 so basically only the one game under 100 – Goldy lock and FORGET
I think those that start without him will play catch up, he has quite a few early games and having the VC on him will be a massive bonus when he goes huge.

Glenn Barclay

I couldn't vote as there wasn't a "None" option

toppa01

Lobbe is locked but u think about minson?

Northernsoul74

Ruck position up in the air at the doggies. Still no clear indication whether Minson, Campbell, or Roughead will start. Yesterday's intra club didn't clarify anything either.

Bobby

Anyone like Aish? Here he is going to play more mid time this year?

TRIGGER HAPPY

Nab watch along with a host of other defenders to see who is real and who r a tease

Leviathan

Aish is on my radar. Let's see what he can produce in NAB cup. He seems happy at his new club.

Kev

Love your words of wisdom, Jock. Gave me a good kick up the backside! I’ve been blinded by Lobbe’s price without doing research on the bloke. Rookie mistake. His ruck solo year had 3 massive scores that skewed his average a bit (178, 150, 145), remove those and his average drops to 91.3 (from 100.8).

I’m confident that he won’t get much lower, but a significant amount of $$ will be required to turn him into a top 5 ruck. Ahhh, decisions!

Josh

Although if you take away his bottom three, you get an average of 106. it just depends at how you look at it

Jackson

You mean this guy has a ceiling of 178? I'm in!!!

Derek

If anyone is going with Jacobes, I suggest you slot in Lowden at F3 as some security.

Shaneo

Why ? Jacobs plays week in week out

Derek

Just in case he misses a game. Lowden will play.

Basil

Billings being cormpared to pendles in an article I just read

Basil

Apparently dominated the saints intraclub, Rolls Royce in a pack of Toyotas was also said

Greg

Wells apparently dominated Roos intraclub

Stiffy

Shaw, KK, Yeo, Smith, Hartley, Brown (ESS), Broad, Collins (FRE)
Ablett, Pendles, Priddis, Shiel, Rockliff, Libba, Hopper, Gresham, Keays, Mathieson, Cuningham
Goldstein, Lobbe, Wyatt
Martin, Dahlhaus, Barlow, Simpkin, Kerridge, Petracca, Grimley, Skinner

12k in the bank.

I can't bring myself to not start with Goldy. There is no way rookies will increase enough in cash by the time Goldy gets to his easier opponents and starts rising again, so I'm starting with him. Not too sure on Shaw at the moment with his pricetag. I think he may get tagged by a defensive forward this year as last year his output was so damaging. Thinking maybe dropping Shaw for a risky Aish pick which free's up plenty of cash for the likes of Crouch or even upgrading a Priddis to Fyfe.

Thoughts?

Tophawk

Hi Stiffy,

I am not starting with Goldy. I am not prepared to spend 7% of my salary cap on one player when you have to pick another 29.

The probability is likely that Goldy will drop in price. By starting Nic Nat or Blicavs instead, you are in fair price range. Even if Goldy outscores either these two guys by 30-40 SC points per game in the early rounds, the 130K strategically invested on other lines is not only likely to offset the Goldy points lost, but put you ahead scoring wise, with player point gains on other lines.

Stiffy

G'day Tophawk, how do you plan on getting Goldy then?

Dean

Agree those who chose to start without Goldy will be playing catch up PERIOD.
Goldy will not go up in price thats almost a certainty, he most likely may drop to around $650k however that being said no other ruck will come close to him.

I had Goldy & Lobbe at first, then got rid of Lobbe and put in Nic Nat but I am sticking with two Premo's in my Ruck in Goldy & Blicvas – or Goldy & Martin Granted Goldy will not go up in price however when you look into Goldy's statistic's last year, such as: Goldy's 2015 SC score's: 100, 154, 110, 154, 92, 100, 98, 44, 134, 128, 136, 150, 148, 140, 221, 127, 164, 155, 122, 116, 102 Goldy had 13 games where he scored 120+ Goldy had 3 games that were sub 100 and in two of those he scored 92 & 98 so basically only the one game under 100 – Goldy lock and FORGET
I think those that start without him will play catch up, he has quite a few early games and having the VC on him will be a massive bonus when he goes huge, a must have regardless of his price.

He almost needs the same attention that GAJ had prior to his injury, even if GAJ was $1 Million prior to his injury still 75% will pay it and Goldy really needs to be looked at in the same way in my opinion if you are serious about SC, I think he will end up taking several Captain scores.

Northerner

I've gone 2 premo rucks – Goldie-Gawn (wasn't she married to Kurt Russell?!). Picked up Gawn last year as a FWD after his first game and he delivered. Hear he's built a bigger tank over summer. I'm also going Rhys Stanley at F4 – hoping he'll catch his early season form from last year. For R3 I've decided to go with the GCS DPP rookie Loersch – he's 102k, and the SUNS play no Friday night games, so he can be the captain's loophole all year. The other 102k DPP is a Pie and they play too many Friday night and early Sat games. Worth a thought.

Depending on how Grimley goes in NAB, I may also pick him up at F8, for additional coverage/flexibility.

SCaddict

Yep there is nothing worse than a R2 toothache to make your life a complete misery. It just nags at you more and more as the weeks go by.

I started with TBC at R2 last season and crikey was that an experience to rival root canal!

Took forever before I finally had the opportunity to pluck that Bomber [email protected] out and get some Blicavs pain relief but by then the damage had already been done to both my ranking and leagues.

So a lock and loaded ruck division is certainly worth considering if you can stomach budget cuts elsewhere in your side.

Derek

I started with TBC last year. I still have sleepless nights. I was able to get rid of him round 6 and traded in Jacobes about $100k cheaper than is starting price.

SCaddict

You did well to offload him by then. Other injuries and rookie priorities forced me to carry the bugger another 2 or 3 weeks.

@t_woof

Agree Addict. TBC after round 1 was hell. Took forever to get him out due to other problems – Rockliff, Ablett, Sloane injuries.

SCaddict

Yes I walked into all those disasters too plus Parker so had to put up with TBC for around 8 or 9 weeks of R2 suckiness.

Of course the previous season Sandi excelled as a budget R2 (who had a terrible injury track record with turf toe at that time) so you never really know how it's all going to pan out each time.

But after last year's fiasco I'm definitely giving strong consideration to going with 2 elite 'set and forget' rucks even if it means paying likely overs for Goldie.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Agree once u started with him with all the mids falling he just had to stay in the team was harder to move than an Alabama tick (thanks predator). Finally off loaded him for goldy at goldys lowest price before he went on a SC blitz that will b talked about in years to come. Never again not skimping in the rucks still got the burns so it is set and forget all the way this year.

Dean Billman

Sam Jacobs or Stef Martin? Jacobs has been really solid the last few years, but Martin is shaping up to be the next premier ruckman of the game…
Goldy already locked at R1.

Kev

If you have the coin then Stef is your man.

Nate

Fellow community members- do you think this balance will be competitive this year? Obviously rookies are subject to change)

DEF: KK, Yeo, Smith, Dureya, Byrne, Collins (Collins, Brown)

MID: Fyfe, Penndlebury, Abblett, Rockcliff, Wines, Libba, Crouch, Gresham (Petracca, Cunningham, Keays)

RUCK: Goldy, Lobbe (Grimely)

FWD: Barlow, Franklin, Greene, Bird, Wells, Kedridge (Kommer, Adams)

Kev

Nice looking team, Nate, especially your mids. Duryea is an interesting one. While he improved his average by 12 from last year he gets a lot of uncontested possessions and cheap marks. Great for AFL Fantasy, not so much supercoach. Imo he won’t reach that 90 average you want from defenders

Nate

Any suggestions on who to replace him with around the same price bracket? Maybe a Rich type?

Mac

I'm considering the Rich/Duryea type and the more I think about it, the more I like Rich as that rebounding defender who can go into the guts. Have you considered a Seedsman/Aish type of selection?

Nate

I find it hard to have 2 crows in defence. But Aish does look ok actually now that I think about it and he fits in nicely to my side- thanks Mac- champion

Nate

Hey Mac- I’ve downgraded Duryea to Aish and now have Goldy and Martin as my Rucks- looks good- cheers

Stiffy

Is anyone thinking that Shaw will get a defence forward playing on him this year which will limit his scoring?

Mac

Duryea good option?

Derek

He is probably in Hawks best 22, but he is not solid. Will have plenty of pressure for his place. Langford, hartung, Litherland, o’rourke, whitcross just to name a few.

Phat Man

G'Day community. Look for your thoughts on my team, rookies are likey to change due to NAB cup performance as im sure its the same with everybody else. Cheers

Def: B.Houli, KK, E.Yeo, B.Smith, E.Hipwood, M.Brown (N.Broad, K.Collins)
Mids: Pendles, Gablett, Rocky, O.Wines, Libba, B.Crouch, D.Parish, J.Trengrove (C.Petracca, N.Freeman, R.Mathieson)
Rucks: Goldy, M.Lobbe (N.Wyatt)
Fwd: Dusty, L.Dahlhaus, T.Greene, J.Simpkin, B.Kennedy, C.Curnow (S.Kerridge, N.Kommer)

Ive got 304K left in the kitty

Cheers

Mac

Your missing out on so many points with 304k left over.

Kev

Agree with Mac. I'd be using the coin to upgrade Lobbe and Crouch

Phat Man

Yeah I thought so, I upgraded crouch to J.Steven, i think he might build on last year

Leviathan

Hi Community,

I wouldn't mind a few thoughts on my current team. Rookies will likely change a bit as NAB Cup progresses.

Def: KK, Rampe, B.Smith, H.Andrews, M.Brown (ESS), Broad (Byrne-Jones, S.Collins)

Mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Liberatore, Crouch, Gresham (Cuningham, Keays, Beech)

Ruc: Goldstein, Lobbe (Wyatt)

For: D.Martin, Wingard, Barlow, D.Wells, Simpkin, S.Kerridge (Petracca, Grimley)

Thanks

Mac

See you have Rampe, whats the communities thoughts on Rampe?

FootyFanatic

Solid team, I'm really liking your midfield. Rampe is an interesting pick though, I never really considered him and looking at his stats he looks very inconsistent with 3 scores in the 40's and 2 in the 50's last year. If he can improve on that he has a lot of up side. The only critism I have is that I don't like the Harris Andrews pick as your paying just under 350K for a second year KP defender who won't be a keeper

Leviathan

Thanks Footy fanatic. I agree Harris Andrews is a very risky pick. He has bulked up a lot and looks in excellent shape. By all reports, he is training the house down. That said, I will be making further adjustments during NAB cup and Andrews is by no means a guaranteed starter. Cheers

CoachDamo

Solid team overall. I agree with feedback on Harris Andrews, it's risky but then again he scored well from Round 16 onwards last year. I'm not sure about Rampe – I'm looking at Bartel instead (cost you $13000 more). Your midfield is strong – make sure you keep an eye on rookies during the NAB challenge because those midfield rookies will generate the most cash so make sure you leave room for the standouts. Daniel Wells is a worry, I'm not sure anyone could be confident that he'll get through the season, let alone enough games to generate some cash. Take a look at Jed Anderson (NM) and Liam Duggan (WC) – apparently both are training the house down. Both are DPP as well and slightly cheaper than Wells. Good luck!

Leviathan

Thanks Damo!

Derek

Rampe is not D2. Don’t rely on him for the whole year.

I see you have been sucked in by Wells.

Leviathan

Hi Derek.

Rampe was not a D2 last season. He averaged 85 SC points. But he did play all 22 games.
He is young and maturing nicely, and to date has been very consistent and injury free. IMO he could potentially break out this season and average 95+. Just my take of course.

I have not been "sucked in" by Wellsy. His last intra hit out yielded 4 goals in less than a half of footy. This is why he is currently in my team. At his price of 244K you would be mad not to watch his progress closely. But his final selection will depend on his NAB cup output and his ability to demonstrate intensity at the footy without injury. If not, he will not be in my side come round one.

Cheers

SCaddict

Keep the faith with Wellsy at least for now. Starred in last week's Roos intraclub bagging 4 goals in just a half of footy.

Of course any new injury setbacks between now and Rd1 could put the kibosh on that plan but to get a player of that quality under $250K shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

We only need look as far as one of his team mates in Higgins who a few seasons ago was similarly priced also with a torrid injury history.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Nab watch with his mate Anderson and a host of others esp in the bomber jumpers to see who makes the cut and is good to go Rd 1.

Leviathan

Wellsy is a Ballsy 😉 selection at the moment, but his talent and bargain price is keeping me very interested. That said, if he just even limps during any of the NAB cup matches he will be scratched. Cheers!

Jock Jr

Wells maybe this years Shaun Higgins

Tom

Thoughts on Parker? Averages 109 if you take out the first 6 games and his last injury affected game.

coming into his 6th year and just signed a big contract extension, at only 538k is he worth a go?

Kev

Definitely! Out of the Sydney mids he's the one I'd pick

Tom

tossing up between him, adams, shiel and wines at the moment

CoachDamo

I'm looking at Parker as well, I had him last year – huge fan of the way he goes about it. At 23, he's coming into his prime…this could be a huge year for him.

Tom

Wont cop the tag with hanners and jpk there either

SCaddict

Worth a look for sure and the Swans have a very reasonable opening draw so I'm expecting many of their stars to start the season with a bang.

I'll likely be running with Hanners and JPK instead as I feel they are slightly safer investments but no arguing that Parker does seem to offer the best value of the 3, at least on paper.

hedski

He’s a lock for me

Iamme

Goldy and Lobbe for me…but also considering Sinclair

MikeinSyd

Thanks Jock we all love to check out your poll as soon as it comes out.

jimmydowland

whats your hypothesis on goldy jock – too costly or too costly not to have him?? love you mate!

FootyFanatic

Too costly to start with, but too costly not to finish with. In my opinion

Nate

I agree- from memory- Goldy was holding his own through the first half of the season and then started posting 140’s and of course that 200 plus bonkers game. I’m hoping he comes out and averages 100 ish and then pick him up in round 7ish. Let’s face it- he is a gun and will need to be there very soon if your not starting with him- if you don’t start with him, the best you can wish for is that he posts scores of 100 to 110- don’t see him going much lower than that

Jackson

Community this is a tough one.

Do I go Josh Kennedy and Toby Greene OR Gibbs and Deledio. I’m torn between which one is better and I need your help community.

MC

Assuming it's Sydney's Josh Kennedy, I'd go with the first option

Tom

Id go for the first option

FootyFanatic

Yea I'd say first too

Swans2012

I’m notorious for going light in the ruck, this year will be no exception for me, might talk myself into a nic nat blicavs gawn type but I’m thinking a lewy\lobbe/Sinclair type combo. I’m half expecting a couple of rookie type rucks to be playing early, just got a feeling…..I wouldn’t be adverse to even playing a rookie ruck on field. I just can’t bring myself to spend big on big fellas that are often made of glass…..

Derek

I was thinking NicNat. Only thing I’m worry is WCE early draw.

Swans2012

Plenty of upside, started slow last year which dragged his average down…..he’s just so explosive though for a big guy that you almost expect something to break at some point….but that’s the same with all the rucks I guess…

On another note I wonder if Dan Currie gets some early games at Gold Coast, been impressive apparently in the intraclubs, has definite talent as a tap ruckman…..

Tom

Pick 2 out of

Shiel, Parker, Adams, Wines

FootyFanatic

In order I'd say Parker > Wines > Shiel > Adams

Scott

Parker and Wines elite.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Had both last year so rate them but gun shy this year

CoachDamo

Only 2? Parker and Wines. I think Adams and Shiel could be in for massive seasons though!

tim

Could someone please clear up the rule change with ruck men this year? because i heard that maybe they were giving more points to think hit outs to advantage.

Mac

Thoughts on Sheridan?

Kev

Showed a bit towards the back end of the year. One to watch in the nab. Risky but a good pod from Crouch/JOM.

hedski

Was running stef and lobbe but am now beginning to think last years set up of goldy and stef the go again. After bit of tinkering I’ve come to :

Bartel Smith Rich (Hartley)

Eski Brown (ess) Rice (Bonner)

Danger Gaz Rocky Parker (VJ Rainbow)

Libba Crouch Gresham Keays (Redman)

(Cunningham)

Goldy Stef (Grimely)

Chopstix Dahl Barlow (Kerridge)

Greene Simpkin Petracca (Skinner)

$74k left in kitty.

Maybe bit skinny in the guts and chancy in def.

Any help? Cheers

TRIGGER HAPPY

Going with the big boys in the ruck you gotta cut corners somewhere can’t afford Em all.

hedski

Yeah true trigger.
was thinking of squeezing a bit of extra cash from somewhere and upgrading crouch to a J Steven type.

hedski

Ha ha thought jack was a bit cheaper

Stirlsy

Here is something to think about Goldy and Stef have same bye round.

hedski

Yeah just checked that Stirlsy cheers. Got Grimely for cover and should be able to cover enough spots over the lines by then hopefully.

Kev

Townsend one to watch in the nab. I reckon he’d tackle his own grandma. If he can get his hands on the pill a bit more he could have a similar impact to what Miles did when he came to the Tigers