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POLL: $200K – $450K Forward selections

Published by Lekdog on

Supercoach 2016 midpriced forwardsBoy oh boy, wowee!

If there is something I love in fantasy football more than an old bloke or an expensive ruckman, it’s identifying a midpriced forward.

Last year I had a close look at Eddie Betts, Nick Riewoldt, Brent Harvey and Brendon Goddard; all of whom were under $450K at one point in the season and all of whom averaged at least 86 for the year. Eddie Betts was the one who started at under $450K in 2015 and I think he shows the value that we can extract if we research hard enough and have a little bit of luck on our side.

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So in 2016 what should we be looking for in our forward line midpricers?

  1. Increased midfield time– every year we hear that forwards are going to be spending more time in the midfield but we need to identify the ones who will actually do it. Jack Riewoldt is an example from 2015; he trained with the midfield more and ended up averaging 91.4 for the year. If we can find 2016’s Jack Riewoldt we’ll be in good stead.
  2. Discounted players– another common occurrence is selecting players who have had a price reduction due to previous injuries. In 2015 we had Mitch Clark and in 2016 we could be looking at player like Rhys Stanley, Daniel Wells or Dale Thomas. The key is to look for players that will have a higher output than they are priced to produce.
  3. New team– I love looking at players who have switched teams, especially the cheaper ones. Generally they have been recruited by their new team to fill a specific role in the short term meaning they should play the majority of games throughout the season (Charlie “Weekend At Bernie’s” Dixon excluded). Jonathan Simpkin and Matthew Leuenburger spring to mind as prime candidates.
  4. New role– Maybe it’s a player moving from a forward pocket to a halfback role or a small-forward moving into the midfield, every year we have players who excel in a new role and it’s up to us to watch the preseason enough to identify those blokes. Last year I was bullish on Christian and this year I think Jack Redpath is a smokey to do the same.
  5. Breakout Players– these are the young guns that decide that 2016 will be their year; these are also often the hardest guys to identify. I’m talking about your Cory Gregson’s (shoutout to Throttlefinger), your Blaine Boekhort’s or your Daniel Menzel’s (I’m talking to you Patch). All risky selections but beautiful when executed properly.

I’m currently looking at both Toby Greene and Aaron Hall as my risky midpriced picks and depending on their roles I’ll be saving a spot in my side for them come round 1.

So what do you say community, is there anything else we need to identify with our midpricers and who will you be selecting in 2016?

Supercoach Midpriced Fowards

Which of these $200K - $450K forward (pick max of 4) will you select this season?

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Dave

Thoughts on Toby Greene ?

gazza_for_coach

Hey big lekdog I know he is 480000 and not quite in bracket of midpricer but what do you think of the devon smith

hedski

Dont think he can be passed up at this price with treloar gone. Lock.

Howeydamus

Definitley

ben

Absolute ball magnet at 446k he's a lock in my forward line. Averaged 94 points in a poor year last year and will get more midfield time due to Adam Trealor departing. Only concern is his disposal efficiency and discipline.

Titan

Looking at greene or billings bith shiuld get more mid time

Titan

Big fan of both
But bit of a risk going both
So ive currently settled with
Martin zorko franklin and greene
The rest rookies

hedski

I have chops dahl Barlow toby simpkin r×3

Titan

Oh i have simpkin too
Forgot about him

MC

yeah rate Billings, don't have the balls to go with him myself though

LuskinStar

Billings has played just 25 games and gone over 130 on 2 occasions. In his first 25 games Chopsticks only went over 100 twice. No doubting Billings ability to rip out a big one. I think going into his 3rd year he is a gamble worth taking.

James

Glad that none of my mid priced PODs are on this list so no one else will pick them haha

Pete

Very sneaky Lek! Very sneaky

Johnno

Could you potentially be thinking of brayshaw then cos he's not on jere

throttlefinger

Would love to get Gregson again, but that price is mighty awkward. Thanks for the shoutout (although it's a blasphemous to dislocate the "throttle" from the "finger")

Leaning towards Dom Sheed, but gonna take hard looks at Jack Martin, Daisy and Bird as well.

May even go to choppy waters and use Sinclair in the forward line if he looks like he's eager to make use of that boss Swans midfield. Until then…in NAB we trust!

magpie4ver

In NAB we trust!!! : )

lostlarrikin

Hey Th ro ttl efi ng er, how you rolling?
Whats the latest on Sheed? Heard he was still on the recovery path?

Daisy? oh, please lord, no!

throttlefinger

Hey Double L! How thee be?

Sheed is fine. Just had minor surgery in Dec. Training with the team.

Daisy…just stirring Lek a bit. Thought Lek would jump all over that with "Me Too" glee.

lostlarrikin

Yeah sweet as TF.
Been AWOL a bit with NBA fantasy and other SC keeper league stuff.

Cheers for the invite back into the Dome.

Gonna give u a run for ur money this yr.

GnR all the way (except Libba).

throttlefinger

No Crouch? Or please tell me you have JOM.

Should be a good time in the TD this year. Sh*t talking should be epic.

Dools

Hi lostL missed you in here great to have y out back in the Dome bro, KrakenKats are back Fridge is looking forward to putting last year in to the history books
As for the throwaway line regarding Daisy , Represents value if playing ..Watch NAB , Fridge likes the idea of Daisy massive POD if it comes off in Pre Season…

lostlarrikin

Aye Mr Dools, yes last yr was one to forget.
Great to see Fridge front and centre providing salient SC advice.
Have keyboard and 3G managed to justify their existence in the technological tripod that supports your insufferable SC habit?
Or has Dragonspeak become the new house guest?

Of course Daisy and ManBun are locks!

magpie4ver

I thought the same about Daisy glad you said it and not me Larrikin!

hedski

Hey TF I reckon with Grimely a likely R/F3 will we need a Sinclair backup or spend on a quality M/F? Cheers

throttlefinger

If Grimely looks good, will be a nice Forward bench player and backup ruck. Not sure if going Sinclair as an R2, but might make things interesting in the forward line if I want to go Mummy/NicNat as my dynamic duo. Shall see.

Steeeve

Had Bird, Simpkin and Anderson at various stages so far, but gone for four premos and rest rookies instead. Got Dahl, Wingard, Barlow and Buddy. Anyone thinking Buddy out and Greene in? Both players high on the risk/reward cortex.

hedski

Hey TF was thinking same lines re Sinclair but if grimely is a lock r3 do we need a backup in fwds or better goin a m/f?

hedski

I’ve never had bud cos of the roller coaster

BKW

Yep not a fan of bud’s inconsistency

Troppo

I’m going no one from here this year. Guns and rookies in the forward line. However I think lots of money to be made in mid price defence players!

@Seekersupacoach

Greene has stayed in my team so far, and is likely to make my final squad. I want to pick Sinclair at F4 as ruck cover and possible scoring generator just not sure I have the plums

Lekdog what about Duggan (WCE), has DPP and similar price to Wells, Anderson & Simpkin? Will he actually spend enough time in the midfield to be relevant?

@Seekersupacoach

Thanks mate!

magpie4ver

I can't make up my mind……until NAB……….I'm Bouncing all over the place.

Tom

Jake Stringers last 7 games of last year are interesting. Has a good run early. Could be worth a look

@chris_troppo

agree, i hear he is going to have more mid time as he is an explosive animal.

lostlarrikin

Hey Lek, you buying into any of this Lyon-hype and the spruiking of Walters and Crozier getting mid minutes?
If named, I think Crozier might have some value at $227K.

Dees fwds will be intriguing. Vandenberg, Brayshaw, Kent all candidates for time in the guts.
Do you have to balls to roll with any of these guys?

Sarah

I've taken a good look at Brayshaw. It's mighty risky picking a second year player to breakout, but with the loss of the subs vest, he's very very tempting. Will be watching him closely in the NAB. Same with Heeney.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Yeah there are just so many around that awkward price that could go either way.

In nab we trust

TRIGGER HAPPY

That don’t call him Ross lyin’ for nothing 🙂

@Seekersupacoach

Does that include Barlow too?

Keenbutclueless

For the past few years Ross Lying has publicly spoken about Walters moving into the midfield. But it hasn’t happened. Again this year we hear about him learning the midfield setup. I will keep an eye out in the NAB Cup, but while Freo are looking to score more goals, I can’t help but think Ross will be loathe to move one of his proven goal kickers out.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Got my eye on a few with Simpkin/wells top of the list. Like to see Greene and halls role in the team. Stringer is another who may go to the next level. In nab we trust. Will decide who is in who is out and what structure/makeup we roll with. Ie if no decent scoring rooks show up in Def may have to consider a dearer defender at D5 and reduced mids/fwd line.

One that I thought should have made the list was De goey? DPP priced at $320k. Could avg 80 plus so make some quick cash. Could go as well as bird who is priced higher?

In nab we trust.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Thanks LEK. What’s your take on the lad?

Eric_the_Red

I've currently got De Goey at F4. I'm hoping he can average around the 80 mark and can be a solid pick till late in the year. What are your thoughts on him?

harry

What do you guys think of Rhys stanley?
His last game was phenomenal to say the least

harry

Do you think he is capable of 90-100 average?
and where would you prefer him, R2 or F4?
Thanks lekdog

wayne

i like Mark. Hutchings from the eagles.i noticed you havnt got his name in

TRIGGER HAPPY

Yep he’s another one for nab cup

NA Kuro FC

What are your thought on my forward line: Chopstic, S.Gray, Franklin, Greene, Simpkins, Kerridge, T Obrien, Schache got 170K left in the kitty? Not sure on Simpkins and Gray….

MC

Really don't rate the forward premos all that much. Dusty's a gun but the rest all seem overpriced with not a whole lot of upside.

For this reason I'm seriously considering going in with Buddy, Greene and Jack Martin. Am I crazy?

@Seekersupacoach

No your not crazy. I'm considering Tom Bell over Buddy at this stage…That's crazy

Mick Klavins

Interesting… No Jarryd Lyons or Reece Conca?

Derek

I know he isn't Mid-price. I have Rioli at F3.

anyone else considering the Norm Smith Medalist?

He started training early with the 1-4 year players to increase his fitness (more mid-field time?).

Roughie is out for half the year, someone is going to need to kick the goals.

Less interchange, meaning Rioli will spend more time actually playing football than getting his legs rubbed on the sidelines. He spent 69.5% game time last year – no wonder he didn't have massive scores.

Starting his 9th season (still only 26yrs old). Classic "Mammoth Hump" year for him. (read Magazine)

TRIGGER HAPPY

Maybe more time on field might not help young Cyril and his twangy hammies? Love watching him and the Chad play. Taking Chad but rioli’s performance in the GF was epic. I feel he is only one dash away from going twang.

Derek

That always seems to be the reaction when you think of Rioli. he hardly missed a game last year after having his first full and proper pre-season. Looks like this year pre-season has been going awesome = another 21-22 game year i think.

it would be an exciting time to have him in the team

Kev

For mine, Greene offers more upside at the same price. Reckon the hawks need him closer to goal rather then running through the middle

bill

i know this is about forwards but who would be the best mid to get under 500k

mids- pendles gaz rockcliff parker wines libba jansen

Kev

There was a poll/discussion on mids a few days ago. http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2016/02/09/poll-250k-500k-midfield-selections/

Jackwatt$

Bradshaw is going to be so good this year that I think Champion Data will change their scoring system to reel him back!

Jackwatt$

*Brayshaw

West

Thoughts on sam gray? Absolutely dominated the back bit of last season and is set to keep plying midfield.

West

Tossing up between him, devon smith, franklin and greene at the moment. What are you thinking lek?

Kev

Excited about Gray, but, 480k for a guy who has played half a dozen supercoach relevant games is a bit too risky for me this stage.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Depends where he plays? With wines back does he play fwd replacing monfries? If so scoring will b impacted. In NAB we trust.

@Seekersupacoach

I want to pick him but Kev & Trigger make strong points, his last six matches I think he played as a mid only. Think he'll spend much more time up forward. Definitely a NAB watch

Jonesy

Looking very close at lewy Taylor! Maybe a breakout year coming up! Thoughts lekdog?

Basil

2014 Rd 17-23 Toby Greene averaged 128.6 after missing 7 games. Anyone know what sort of role he was playing. 161 in RD 20 shows he can go big

Derek

His numbers at the end of 2014 are amazing. why did he score crap in 2015?

FootyFanatic

I know his kicking efficiency dropped pretty badly from 2014 to 15, he also averaged 5 less disposals last year. Could be justified by less mid time.

Chainsaw

He's also an absolute flog of a human being… Would be hard to support such a churlish, ratty, spitter every week. Pass.

Basil

got Dusty, Dahlhaus, Barlow, looking for a F4 someone around the 450k mark to have a breakout year, Greene, Stringer, Merrett, Hall, Breust??? thoughts

TRIGGER HAPPY

That’s the question all have potential to be the next big thing. Talent lies in picking the right one. In NAB we trust.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Or u could go the other path which has proved popular with a Wells or similar at F4 and simpkin/Anderson at F5. Depends if u c this option outscoring say Merrett and a rookie at F5?

Derek

trying to pick a Break-out player is much harder than picking a "fallen Premium" player.

StevieJ is lurking in the forward line and offering his services for $457k.

i'm not going near him, but you could do worse.

Gaveday

Geez I’m tempted for Steele or Gorringe but I think you’d have to a massive gambler to lock them in now. Jack Martin though is maybe not as big of a long shot…. I dunno. Probably play it “safe”.

Top Hawk

No guts . No glory

Brooke

Reece conca??? Thoughts!!!

SCaddict

He's one of those forgotten men in a sea of tantalising midpricers.

I'll be tracking his progress in the NAB for sure and he's expected to take the field against Freo next week.

However he's a quite a few notches down on most coach's internal totem poles right now with some of the other appealing forward midpricer choices seemingly out there.

'Don't Blush Babbie'

i can tell you all he was touted to be elite,the big hamstring injury 3 years ago in the final buggered his confidence , now fully fit and confidence in his body i believe he will have a good season – At 284k I'm projecting a140k rise as minimum

holty

Wouldnt touch him. has never played more then 18 games in a season. he may average you 80 but a bargain basement rookie could average you 65 and make you $100000 more. if its for making quick money, grab a rookie unless u are considering the thought that Conca could possibly be a keeper?

West

If greene plays more mid time this year he is an absolute lock. Hurry up NAB

Davo

On a side note….will Harley Bennell be fit and ready to go round 1????

SCaddict

Touch and go there. Even if he does make it he will have missed a huge chunk of the usual preseason workload just like McVeigh.

Combined with the 'Lyon Effect' in that we don't really know how he will fit into the Freo system I won't be touching him, at least initially, and will only consider him as an upgrade option later in the season should his fantasy output warrant that.

Eric_the_Red

I'm drawn to De Goey this year at F4. Any other takers? It's a Simpkin vs De Goey vs D. Menzel for me. Thoughts?

Kev

Not a fan of Menzel, that one game last year isn’t enough for me to pick him. De Goey could be a great pod, dreaded second year blues are a possibility though

Liam

Danger of fyfe

Iamme

Danger……especially if Fyfe plays more in defense as Ross has eluded to.

'Don't Blush Babbie'

Neither for me mate, I'll be waiting when they drop in price. Too many to choose from ,looking for value early on

SCaddict

Both will be wait and sees for me too not starting selections.

Liam

What's your midfield shaping up like SC ?

SCaddict

Hey Liam at this stage I'm considering a fairly locked and loaded midfield with a budget defence and forward line. Of course I could be forced to change that structure depending on how the best rookies end up being distributed. But for now I'm planning a starting midfield something like:

Pendles, Gaz, Hanners, JPK, Rocky, Libba, Crouch, JOM or rookie

Swans have a fairly decent draw early playing the Blues, Dons and Lions all within the first 7 rounds so I really want to jump on Hanners, JPK and probably Buddy too from the get go.

Danger or Fyfe I could always swap in for Pendles depending on how things shake out in the NAB but right now I'm running with Pendles.

Liam

Loving the Midfield SC. Regarding JOM, I would recommend choosing a rookie, use the money else where.

BKW

danger – Fyfe will be one of my upgrades depending on how he is travelling (recovery from leg injury)

West

Devon smith set to play more mid and wing time with the new inclusion of stevie j

Reckon he could go big this year

LuskinStar

Toby Greene is the only one I have and that is dependant on returning to the mids. Most of the guys listed are tipped to improve only on a hunch. Dont see strong logical reasons to go with any of them.

Pat

Will he though? Plenty of mids getting about at GWS..

Jackwatt$

McDonald-Tipungwuti an absolute certainty to play Round 1. At 102k and DPP want more could you want?

Gaveday

What more do I want? JohnWorsfold to say he’s a certainty

james

gibbs hanley or duncan

Kev

Like duncan as a POD. Gibbs is the more popular pick

Pat

Duncan

Eric_the_Red

Duncan for sure!

DuckingTigers

I'm seeing a lot of "In NAB we trust" comments but I've been stung before. When the guns are rested, mid pricers and rookies can be given opportunities that aren't available to them in the season proper. Experiments (without supplements) are conducted to test players adaptability but don't necessarily provide any season portents. Beware the Ides of March.

SCaddict

Yeah the NAB is only a guide at best but it is still a useful source of new info especially for rookies but also for players coming back from injury as well as those who have changed clubs or roles.

But that's what makes this fantasy caper so darn great as those who can best separate the NAB wheat from the chaff often get a leg up on the competition.

BKW

Exhibit A:
Heritier Lumumba

Derek

NAB means nothing if there are not named in Round 1.

If there are rookies named in Round 1, then it is wise to have watched a bit of their form in NAB to decide if they can HOLD there place in the team. I've been caught before by putting in a Rookie who is named Round 1, but doesn't play round 2.

Leeds17

Just having a look through last years scores http://media.foxsports.com.au/images/2015NABSuper… and there';'s a good trend to spot some breakout contenders and of course rookies not flawless of course.

4rm

Can any Hawk supporters or others that have watched and have some knowledge, tell me who they think will score better. Mr Anderson, in a good team sharing points or Simpkin in what most of us expect to be a lowly team.

Kev

Hard to make a call on those guys right now. Simpkin has a few more games under his belt (played 16 in 2014). His non-snot vest scores are nothing to get excited about, he gets a lot of outside ball.

I’d expect Simpkin will be a r1 starter. I’m treating both as high priced rookies at the moment

Derek

i have Simpkin in my team at the moment. He will play and will score a few 75+ which is ok for a F4 of his price.

I wasn't a big fan of Anderson when he was at the Hawks, i thought he was a bit over-rated. As a result, the hawks realised there were plenty of others ahead of him on the list.

Tim

I'm considering Dixon read today's paper only had a minor operation and could be playing NAB cup.

Pat

Big potential but shaky injury history…

Pat

Community…

Still months out and I feel like the final team selections will be tougher than a rubiks cube!

Advice please?

Naitanui and Greene or Steph Martin and Stringer?

Cheers in advance!