Patch’s Panic Room – Round 17
My goodness community, I don’t remember it being this cold when I left! Snow in Queensland? The world really has gone mad.
What was almost as mad was that Crouching Tiger’s boot camp kicked my team into gear while I was gone, as I racked up over 5000 points in two rounds. Although, of course now I’m back in the country I will plummet back to mediocrity, my captaincy choices will flop and all my premiums will falter. If you also own Wines, Picken, Dahlhaus, or any other player from my side, I am so sorry.
But enough about this, on with the show!
THE NEWS
There wasn’t a huge amount of calamity in the news this week, which means the Supercoach gods are saving them all for late outs over the weekend.
Rumours are floating around about Nat Fyfe and Dayne Beams under an injury cloud, and I’ve heard Beams won’t last a month with his shoulder. Fyfe will likely sit out one of the next two weeks as Ross the Boss is want to do, but Beams is another matter. Do you bite the bullet early and swap him for Gary Ablett? Do you hold a few more weeks? I’ve had a lot of luck from holding Beams so far – a quick shout-out to all those who traded him in round 3 – and will do so this week and reassess. Plans might change before lockout but this is where I’m sitting.
The Spud of 2015, Joel Selwood is back for Geelong, and will be back on the field in your side serving you up a 90. What a champ. Rory Sloane has also made a quick comeback from injury, so if you’ve got him be excited.
Popular downgrade option Tom Fields has disappeared from Carlton’s line up this week, as has Nathan Krakouer from Port’s. Krakouer seems to have done a hammy in the dying seconds (possibly even the last kick) of the showdown, and will miss two weeks, while Fields has been dropped.
Harley Bennel is back following his suspension, and last week it appears the reanimation department up on the Gold Coast brought Josh Glenn back to life, which is great news for Dead Equality Rights everywhere. Rimmer would be proud.
Anyone with Jamie MacMillan in their backlines will need to move him on, as he has done a hamstring injury, and anyone with swingman Jeremy McGovern will need to trade after he is out of the side with a nasty hamstring injury. Likewise, Travis Cloke is gone and Isaac Heeney is back for anyone who suddenly decided to check their team for the first time since round 6 and was after some good news.
THE PATCH UP
I’m going to talk about trades. At this time of the year, they are running dangerously, dangerously low. In years past would always say you need 4 trades for finals. But in years past we didn’t have 15 trade-worthy injuries by round 13. In years past we didn’t have as many premiums underperforming as we do now. So some people have as few as two.
For what it’s worth, I still think four trades for finals is where it needs to be. I have four left and unless injury strikes, I won’t be using them. If you need a second wind to make finals, then you might have your hand pushed. But conserve them. As said by the great philosopher Homer, “A trade is like a beer. They smell good, they look good and you’d step over your own mother to get one.”
TRADING PLACES
Breakevens are rapidly losing their relevance, but those last few trades might want to take into account price rises and drops, so Eddie and Dan will continue their show!’
Eddie Murphy’s
-47 – J. Kolodjashnij
-23 – T. Nankervis
-17 – K. Lambert
-16 – B. Maynard
-6 – S. Edwards
74 – G. Ablett
Dan Akyroyd’s
174 – N. Fyfe
147 – D. Martin
147 – L. Parker
141 – L. Montagna
140 – D. Heppell
The rookie rumble is well and truly over now, so that brings the Panic Room to a close for another week. It’s good – if cold – to be back, so best of luck to you all this weekend, community!
Do I go hamling to Tom fields so I can get laird, or Hamling to jake kolo and get Rory laird in?
J Kolo because he is playing
Who to trade out for ablett? The Bont who is unreliable but posted two good scores lately or Tom Mitchell who seems to have been given the run with role at Sydney and it has affected his output somewhat?
Bont, if you have the trades
If you have Beams I suggest trading Beams out for GAJ due to his shoulder injury.
Trade out hamling or lambert to get GAJ in?
hamling
Hamling for sure
Hamling isn't playing so it should be simple
Need some help community
My team is
shaw kk newnes hodge murphy smith hamling edwards
fyfe pendles selwood beams parker jpk rockliff ablett o’brien mckenzie lambert
goldy maric cox
gray d.martin swan goddard dahlhause s.edwards steele daniel
5 trades and 88k in the bank. going for overall rank
should i..
1. smith out for malceski/kelly
2. downgrade rookie/upgrade smith
3. downgrade rookie upgrade hamling to malceski/kelly
4. upgrade smith to malceski/kelly and sideways edwards to bartel
or any other ideas anyone has
Cheers community xx
1, you might need the trades later
Going Smith to Kelly or Malceski is a sideways trade in my opinion. .
Trade either Hamling or McKenzie for Knight, Harmes, Goddad or Kolodjashnij and then trade Smith to the best defender you can afford .
However it is worth noting that its highly likely that Beams will not be playing every game or he might hurt his shoulder more and not play this year.
Yep hold a week or two to see what the go is with beams, might be able to make some $$$ if you have to trade him
Thinking I'll try and get ahead and go from Beams to GAJ this week. You've gotta think that with a bung shoulder he may not be tackling anywhere near as much. May also have an impact on his contested possies
I'm making the same move this week.
I just need GAJ
If you have trades, it would be a wise move
I have 3 trades. What I was planning to do was use 2 trades to get GAJ, which I really didn't want to do, so now I can just use the 1
LOL- you think GAJ is going to play all the remaining games??????? what are you going to do to cover the 2-3 games he will miss in the next 7 weeks?
Wait on the beams injury, been sore for a month or so now and has been going ok, just as likely he could bang out a 140 and gaj injures himself. Unless he starts banging 50’s out or gets surgery hold…. Just my opinion just scared of bringing in someone before I have to with all the injuries about this year….
best rookie option purely on job security, apart from goddard
heard jayden lavered should be getting a fair bit mor game time
Yeah Laverde then R. Knight
Need help completing my team to full premo
$287,700 in the bank
My team
D – H.Shaw, Houli, Hodge, Newnes, Ibbotson, Gibson (Colquhoun, A.Saad)
M – Fyfe, Pendles, Wines, Heppell, Griffen, Rockliff, Ablett, Lambert (Ellis-Yolmen, McKenzie, Maynard)
R – Goldstein, Maric (Cox)
F – Gray, D.Martin, Swan, T.Mitchell, McKernan, Steele (Tarrant, Daniel)
Trading out R.Tarrant and Ellis Yolmen for R.Knight and undecided on Dangerfield, Deledio, Bartel.
Any other suggestions would be helpful, Cheers 🙂
R.Knight and Priddis, save yourself $50k for someone that is just as good as Dangerfield
this looks like my team 10 rounds ago. I expect you have a lot of trades left!
If you Trade out Saad >> Selwood (via Maynard), and Tarrent >> Bartel….you should have $500 left…..am I right?
Like.
I like Lids, gives extra flexibility and he s been Awsome .
Thoughts on my team? 6 trades with 30k in the 50k in the bank
Shaw, Hodge, Simpson, Murphy, Gibson, Newnes, Pearce, Goddard
Ablett, Fyfe, Beams, JPK, Trelaor, Parker, Rockliff, Priddis, Steele, O'Brien, Lambert
Goldy, Maric, Read
Gray, Martin, Swan, Franklin, Dahlhaus, McKernan, Lonie, Daniel
So was thinking Mckernan to Bartel as I believe McKernan will not make cash and could get dropped and then Lonie to Payne via Lambert DPP and that gives me a loophole option with over 100k in the bank with 4 trades remaining. Can fix Beams/Maric next week if Beams' shoulder gets stuffed and if Maric keeps scoring low due to Hampson
Thoughts?
Getting rid of McKernan and Lonie sounds good
sounds good.
instead of getting Payne (you already have plenty of Mid/Fwd DPP, get a Mid/Def DPP player (via lambert) so you can swing Hodge & Newness into the midfield if you need to.
Adamson? WCE also have a few Sunday games good for Loophole?
Hi community, thought i'd post my team to see what you guys thought.
I have 8 trades left and 48k in the bank. Am currently sitting 402nd overall, 964pts behind the leader:
Def: Shaw, T-mac, Hodge, Newnes, Gibson, Lever (Pearce, McKenzie)
Mid: Fyfe, Pendles, Mundy, Beams, Danger, JPK, Ebert, Ablett (Steele, O'Brien, Lambert)
Ruc: Goldy, Martin (Lucey)
Fwd: Gray, Martin, Swan, Zorko, Goddard, Mitchell (Daniel, H.Goddard)
Anyone think i have a realistic chance at the overall? Or should i just concentrate on leagues (Top in both)
This is the best i've ever done, so bit of uncharted waters
Thanks a lot fellas!
You would have a realistic chance at getting higher in overall rankings by downgrading Steele and upgrading Lever to a Hurley
Thanks Danners! I like where ya heads at!!
wait for Steele to increase a bit more, should be close to $300k next week.
I would wait for Steele to increase in value, then paint the fence next week. When you do, make sure you swing Mckenzie into your mids so you have a DPP to swing Hodge & Newnes into the mids if needed. This will also give you a Non-plyer in your mids so you can use the loophole if needed.
Steel >> Simpson/Rance/Houli (via Mckenzie swing to mids)
Lever >> Rookie
8 trades left is a very good spot to be in, being ranked 402 overall. be bold and roll the dice!
maybe look at somebody like Simpson for Lever? has shown he can go big
There are still 7 rounds to go. You have 8 trades which I'm guess is a lot more than most of the people ahead of you. The top ranked people I'm guess would have traded fairly aggressively and won't want to many injuries or suspensions.
I'm about the same as you, 459th. I have 9 trades left and I think the only way i'll have any chance is if there is a number of injuries to popular players (fyfe or beams etc), and that others managers won't have sufficient bench cover or have enough trades to fix up their teams.
7 weeks a lot can happen!
Thanks Dez, I think i'm going to do a downgrade this week then paint the fence next week. That should still leave me with a bit of cash and 5 trades left with 5 to play.
Cheers for the help guys, appreciate it!
See you at the pointy end Derek!!
Sounds good!!
hello community who do i get out of
ward
macrae
gaff
Ward
Gaff
Macrae
None if you can
Need some advice which of the 3 should I trade out for a premo Hamling, Pearce or Mckenzie?
The one worth the most coin ! Trades are thin
I have all three in my team and if it were me, I'd trade out hamling. Pearce is playing and I use McKenzie as my dpp swing in midfield.
McKenzie is the only one not playing, but if you need him for a swing set, he's handy. If they're all in defence, then maybe look at keeping Pearce considering he's the only one playing out of the 3 at the moment
and obviously Hamling isn't playing either. oops
need opinion please, I was about to trade the Bont to GAJ but now I see Beams might not last long.
So do I stick with the original plan and see how Beams goes or do I dump Beams for GAJ?
If I do the second I should have enough for Malceski as well wich means full premo defence but will kick myself if Beams is fine.
Cheers
'DAYNE Beams' injured right shoulder is hanging by a thread, with the star Brisbane Lions' midfielder believed to be contemplating surgery before season's end.'
If you're low on trades I think it's safer to trade out beams
cheers bud. I have 7 trades left
You may kick yourself but you'll also have GAJ and a full premo team. Word is he's not fine at all
thanks mate
With McKernan or Krakouer playing at F6. Who should I upgrade between the two to a premium like a Bartel or Goddard
Krakouer is out so him
Bartel or Goddard
Jimmy
anyone know the future of GC's Boston?
Didn't do much in the NEAFL last weekend. Unlikely to force his way back in you'd think
I've got both beams and fyfe and only have 2 trades left, I've only got $31,000 in the bank.
What do I do?
Hold fire for now and pray!!
Hold! Beams doesn't need to be moved at this stage, but will likely need to go in coming weeks. Don't make any rash decisions with two left!
Agree trade when you need to, anything could happen with beams
Is it worth using 2 trades to get rid of McKernan (f7 and ruck backup) for Rocky (plus downgrade Hamling to a mid thru DPP).
This woukd enable me to put Ebert at M9 and loophole him against Griffen at M8.
Have 6 trades left. Other option is just trade Ebert for Rocky but I’m sure Ebert will pump out a ton once I do this.
If you're confident with your rucks then I'd go for it. Otherwise I'd upgrade Griffin ahead of Ebert if you have the cash.
need help community got 600k in the bank to get a mid, who do i get?
my midfield is- Fyfe, Pendles, Mundy, Priddis, Heppell, Parker, Montagna
Buddy (93), Goddard (96), Bont (97) or Gawn (114) for GAZ.
Help me choose please community. It must be one of these 4 to go
Thank you
in order
Gawn
Bont
Buddy
Goddard
Bunt the Bont.
Bont, then bud, then floggard, then Gawn (for Ruck cover).
With six trades left and about $20k I had decided to trade Krakouer and Hamling to Knight and Kelly but Fyfe and Beams are making me nervous as I only have one mid bench cover. As Kelly plays before Fyfe and Beams I don't have the luxury of waiting so to avoid the fireworks I'll just have a Krakouer – Knight.
Need help completing my team to full premo
My team:
D – Picken, Boyd, Hodge, Mundy, Colquhoun, Clurey (Fields, Hamling)
M – Beams, Dangerfield, Swan, Parker, Ebert, Gray, Barlow, Rockliff (Krakour, Kavanagh)
R – Jacobs, Naitanui (Read, Griffin)
F – Martin, Goddard, Mitchell, Franklin, Kennedy, Mckernan (Redpath, Fantasia)
70k in the bank!!
Mundy is mid….you should have 3 bench mids, one bench ruck, an ability to copy teams from supercoach not other sites or previous years 😛 All the best with dreamteam or whatever it is your are playing as I don't know the prices for that.
I'm thinking Beams > GAJ, (Ebert> sidebottom or jelwood, or Kennedy>Bartel)
Nervous times. Only 5 trades left. Need a Hodge I think as I have Smith at d6. Defence is houli, Bob Murphy, Higgins, newnes, Ibbotson and Smith, with hamling and kolo. Would have to make 2 trades to get him in. Is it worth it? Or just use 1 trade and get James Kelly or nick malceski
Should I go Rich to Fyfe or Lever to Enright (they are the only two non-premos in my team)?
Rich to Fyfe, Matt.
Will he play this week though?
We probably wont know until before the match when they announce any late outs
tom rockliff or jimmy bartel?
rocky
One of Nat Fyfe, Dayne Beams or Jack Ziebell as M9 this round?
there are njury concerns over fyfe and beams this week
Their three teams play on Saturday. Fremantle at 4:35pm and North play Brisbane at 7:20pm. you'll be able to make your decision then.
thoughts on higgins?
None.
Like. Better than Smith 🙂
Which two to play out of Selwood, Treloar or Swallow? Help would be greatly appreciated
treloar and jelwood
Deledio or Bartel?
Bartel because he is a lot cheaper. Will score similar
Kelly or Malceski??
Kelly. In a team playing for a finals position
I picked Jordan Lewis as VC and I'm stoked so far. 90 SC points at half-time!
Good work Jambo, finishing up with 150. I went Hodge myself.
Do we take the 280 or back the little master GAJ to top it?
280 in the bag is too good to turn up surely?
Against Adelaide, I expect at least 150. Tough call. Could be a 50:50 either way.
Take it
I stuck with Lewis’ 150 as my captain. About time Lewis performed aye?
I’m taking my 280
Take hodgey's 132 or gaz captain
I reckon I’m going to take it Liam. Upscaled to 140 too.
Almost made him vc damit, I’d take it in a heartbeat
Take it
Really happy with Simpson’s score tonight.
newnes or griffen on the field??
Saints play Sunday, can you loophole griffin?
If you can’t, id go Griff
Bringing in Gaz currently have Gray in mids so via swing trading out either Buddy or TMitch or even Goddard?
Out of those I would trade titch out
+1
Not a big fan of TMitch.
Mitchell, may be Sydney's new tagger
Cheers guys, Longmire making TMitch tag does worry me but his scores haven’t been terrible but not great, could get dropped if Swans don’t improve?
Buddy and the Swans attack is a concern as well.
It’s a big call for a must win week.
Won’t get dropped, past that stage of his career
Oh and I think 90-100 is what we’ll get out of him (tmitch) from here. That’ll do me at f5-6-7 loophole
Thanks Swans 2012, hopefully we can come away with the win tomorrow.
I’m going with gut feeling (no real science behind it) & ditching Buddy. Will take consistency over a rollercoaster. Watch Buddy kick 8 now.
But ditching Buddy means –
Gaz can come in , Gunston will be F6 for rest of the yr ( has E on him until Buddy goes so will get his 165 after the trade)
But if Buddy/Mitch stays either would be my F6 and would have to get a Ward, Priddis type & no Gaz.
Basically have 7 forwards but not a finished mid field, got Gunston cheap as cover but need now a finished midfield ( 7 trades left)
My brain screams no to the buddy trade, but if it’s the only solution I guess go for it, no other way you can get gaz? It’s a big plus being able to loophole a buddy/Gunston at f6. with 7 trades I’d prefer to see you burn three keep your forward cover and have 4 left (provided that finishes your team).
Buddy over TMitch every day of the week.
I have 6 trades left and 87k in the bank. Need to move on McGovern from my fwd line. Is it worth trading him for Knight/Leverde and bank the cash or taking a risk and bringing in Tex Walker, Ryder or Papparone. My other option would be to swap Mc Govern and Steele via DPP and bring in another midfielder but don't know if there is any worth bringing in for under $420k. I was also thinking of trading Smith to Malcevski but already have Lever and Coloquon on the bench as coverage. I would appreciate any advice/feedback.
Don't bother with Tex, Ryder etc. just downgrade to a rookie and bank the cash, then if someone gets injured or if you just want to upgrade someone to a prem you already have the cash
Thanks Tyler. Should I make the upgrade now (I.e. Smith to Malcevski) or leave it to next week. Cheers
Which defender with 517k to spend
Have shaw, newnes, kk, hodge, murphy already
Cheers
Picken or Rance.
Zac Dawson.
Probably SImpson
Enright will have a big finish
Enright with the Cats wanting to finish strong.
To whoever convinced me to trade in Gunston, thanks.
You're welcome, if only I decided to trade him in.
Hahaha, a classic case of not following your own advice.
Hi Guys. Trading Beams this week to either Danger or Hanners. I'm thinking Danger-what's your thoughts??
Hold, unless he’s a late out
Beams is fine.
Community, need help quick! Do I hold either Selwood or Swallow? One needs to go this week. Thanks.
I’d hold sellwood, but your call….
Selwood he’s due.
Hold Selwood, needed the week off
Selwood is a dead set ultra premium gun!
Who has the the best JS out of Harmes, Kolo, or Knight?
Harmes then Knight at a guess!
Tmac or malceski at d6?
Is that even a question? Tmac!
Tmac has been playing forward, and Malceski does look to be back in form with Gazza back in. Eski for me.
Malceski is fresh and should finish season well. TMac is tired after a big season and I think will fade over the remaining games
Bartel or Goddard?
Bartel by a hair
Cats are still in hunt for finals, I’d back Vartel to step up. Bartel is fresh where Hodard and bombers had a tough hard year so far
Do I use my 2 trade now in trading Lonie and Mckernan for non-playing rookie for loophole and Bartel/Goddard or save a trade incase Beams is out?
Would definitely hold at least one trade for Beams tonight.
No comment…..don't want to upset the SC gods.
My team scores so far in a must win match-up-
Gunston (165), Hodge (140 x 2), Lewis (150), Murphy (112), Simpson (98) – via loophole, Kreuzer (72)
Fingers crossed.
By the way, is Fyfe playing?
Anyone have any news on Beams???
Watch the teams tonight like a hawk. I will be. If hes a late out hes turning into Priddis or Hanners.
He will be fine. A bit a media hype.
Gone…
Do I use both my trades now so I can get Bartel, or do I just downgrade one and if Beams pulls out can trade him, if he doesn't I'll upgrade Mckernan to Goddard?
Really regretting my reverse trade last night.
Used 2 of my remaining 5 trades to get Hodge in. Then read all the info about beams’ shoulder and fyfes corky and got nervous. Reverse traded and used one trade in bringing malceski in as d6/7.
Was feeling ok about it at 3/4 time last night, but I know it’s gonna bite me into he arse. Hopefully the extra trade saved will come in handy come finals.