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PODCAST: Time to go shopping.

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Supercoach 2015You ripper. Time to have a look at the best post round 11 bye options.

Round 12 has loomed up as one of the hardest rounds to navigate for most. To help us get through this week – we need to identify those blokes who have just had their bye in round 11 – and who represent outstanding value.
Walk on through these byes with strength community. Fear not the unknown. For it is the unknown that will set you free.
Enjoy the show community.

 

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BCHawks

Boy Max Gawn is tempting. Someone talk me out of it.

Fred

Isn't he over 300k? He will be exactly like Tarrant in fact probably worse.

Mighty_Hondo

If you make the GF in your league(s) but in any event, in Rnd 22, he's up against Sandy

Patch

I wrote him up Friday and like what I see in the stats column having not been able to watch the game – BUT.

He hasn't played brilliant ruckmen. He hasn't done it before. He's not cemented his spot in the team. He doesn't tackle or get much of the ball. He is not the Stefan Martin of 2015. He will not be a keeper.

But if you have the trades, the need and the testicular fortitude, you could ride his cash rise until late in the piece and cash him in. I am seriously, seriously tempted. Especially if Geelong aren't able to get another ruckman in next week.

Swans2012

Yep tempting as a permanent r3/f8 loop type player….

Danners

Is he a proven premium or on the verge of being a breakout contender, no. Pretty simple

Youngy

Agreed

Youngy

Do you think he will hold a spot in the team???

Northerner

Magical Max. I watched his first game and had him on my radar as an F6 then moving to F7 and DPP FWD/RUC cover after byes. I had 18 playing this week, but knew I needed to pull something out to win my matches. Made the TBC to Gawn call even after only 1 game just before Saturday’s kickoff. Won all leagues with the difference between his 118 and Dumont’s 35!

@wheels_1987

dont do it

Gibbo

By next week i will have only 10 trades but a full premium team, is this way too little trades to have ? Although i wont need to trade unless for injuries/ suspensions

neale

No, if you’re happy with your team and don’t trade every week you should be okay

General Soreness

Nice position to be in mate, well done. 10 is about right if your at full premo.

nugget

WTF????? whats with all the sex talk in the Podcast???? Most of it was pretty distasteful and way too random throughout the whole 30 mins!!!!!! One line here or there like in other casts to rub Higgo up the wrong way has been amusing but whats with the constant sex talk with Crouching and Jock?????????? Must be honest and say that was the only podcast I have never really enjoyed and unfortunately cant bare to listen to it again like others that i'll hear multiple times…… sorry boys but thats just some honest feedback. Cheers

Alan, ALAN!

(Tumbleweeds)

@wheels_1987

doesnt matter how many trades you have left. if you are at ful premo thats good and then just ride the rollercoaster

Jake

Who to captain this week?

@KingWinter7

Robbie Gray VC
Beams C

Donavan

Priddis

wayno1313

Danger VC

hedski

Yep

General Soreness

may separate a few this week. lots of options Lewis, Sloane, Danger, Priddis, Beams, Gray, Jelwood et al

Youngy

Gray, Goldstien or Beams

Northerner

Sam Jacobs Friday night to consider as well.

Northerner

Thursday night

@wheels_1987

Im goin Danger VC
Gray C

Me2

Vc Dusty

Steve

saad to b smith
Krakouer to Isaac smith. His on,y 517 and only in .9% of teams and always seems to dominate, feel his a nice POD.
Also, what are people's opinion on Burgoyne? Average is down but pretty cheap.

Redgumwon

I've heard a rumour that Krak could be upgraded to the main list again. He might be worth holding onto a little longer if he has. Has anyone else heard this?

r2d2

Upgraded again in a week or so krak will be I pretty sure ! High BE ,,, but dpp …. Hold 🙂

jay

Should we look at getting side bottom in few weeks time?

General Soreness

if your talking plastic surgery, then NO.

If your talking the player at the pies, he remains an option.

Tigertanic

Por que no los dos?

Chefs Arsse fc

Hahaha

Youngy

Ye I will be bringing him in at some stage in the coming weeks

Danners

JPK would be a better option

James

Says a lot about my season that my Rd 11 score with just 18 players beat my Rd 10 score with a full side

Cozza

Lol – I had the same – beat my last round score by 123 – what a crap week that was!

MC

Hodgey or K Simpson?

@KingWinter7

Both if you could but personally i'd go Hodge

Bart

Zac Dawson could be making his return soon, i'd wait for him.

mcleal10

ha

scrofl

Hodge will be rested later on in the season, I'd go Simpson as he'll play every game.

Swans2012

I’ve got serious hodge rest fears, now considering houli…

jacob

Im having a serious look at Houli too. 90% sure I’ll go with him. In a winning team he seems to be playing a more attacking role this year and has obvousky been nominated as there key ball user out of the back half. Huge ceiling too!!

Clunker

You’re kidding. Hodge missed 3 matches thru suspension. Now another thru the bye. And Hawthorn aren’t sitting pretty top two as in previous years where they could afford to rest their most important player. Hodgey will not be rested. If he’s fit…he will play.

BKW

Agree!

Danners

Hodge, he has wound back the clock

jake

stuck on this one too mate, i probly gonna go hodge as i think with hawthrons position he will not get rested (i hope)

Luke

laird or simpson?

@KingWinter7

Simpson

Youngy

Simpson

Danners

Simpson, more reliable

nick

I have barely any cash in the kitty so these are my trades this week
Rockliff- kavanah or glenn
saad- hodge
tarrant- lewis via krakour dpp

Dylan

Hi mate, both Kavanagh and Glenn have the bye this week, and who knows when Glenn is coming back (GC's website says 2 weeks, but how long have they been saying that?). Hamling is a good downgrade option this week (as long as he is named!) as the dogs have already had their bye. Hamling is also 20K cheaper than Kavanagh, and all three have similar scoring potential IMHO

Dylan

If you can swing, that is

daddyotoole

Who to trade out: Oxley or Saad? One of them must go!

Redgumwon

I'm trading out Oxley. Saad has DPP and I think he has really good job security. Could be a keeper

@KingWinter7

I'm trading out both sadly, but the first to go was Saad, 64 breakeven against Oxley's 5

Cozza

Trade Saad. Oxley has a BE of 5, so he still has some good coin to make you. Saad's BE is 65 – around 20 below his average so he will probably increase in value still after his bye, but not as much.

Possibly not a bad call keeping Saad as a keeper though. He is averaging more than 2 other keepers I have (Hibberd and Newnes)! However, he was always brought in as a stepping stone for me, so I will be cashing him in this week.

judd0

Collingwood have Freo, Hawks, West coast, Port in the next 4 tough draw.
I'm making the same decision this week. Whichever way we go we will get it wrong, toss a coin.

General Soreness

Oxley will not roam free in the next 5 games.

Youngy

Saad for me

@wheels_1987

i traded out Saad (regrettably)
Holding Ox for at least another week or 2

Bob

Thoughts on trades

Krakour to dale

Saad to hodge

Tarrant to the bont at 430 k

@KingWinter7

A lot are considering trading the Bont out, certainly not one to trade in

Luke

get zorko instead of the bont

mcleal10

Why would you want Bont after his performances and focus? Get Franklin instead or Deledio or even Zorko

Adam

I'm sure i'm not the only one who traded Bellchambers for Goldstein last week, but my team just looks sooo much better without that usless piece of shit in it!

r2d2

Traded him to ziebell …. Who only got 60 odd , but is about 30 more than belch Beth getting …. Happy

r2d2

*been

Swans2012

Yep Ziebell stung, but he’ll come good, the 26% efficiency was the problem…. Ah well next week

Timmy

Yep one of the best trades I have done all season. That and getting in Fyfe for Newnes about 6 weeks back.

Brooke Richards

Upgrade two out of Oxley Saad, Newnes and Ibbo?

chevvy

Oxley has a epic low BE of 5

Locked and Loaded

Newnes??????

@KingWinter7

Upgrade the cash cows so Oxley and Saad

adam

mate I had the same conundrum I traded out ibbo and saad . saad because he had a higher be than oxley and I traded out ibbo because he is really inconsistant

UDA

Ox got freo, hawks, port and west coast. I dont think they will let him to run around the back line ad a loose defender….. i reckon top teams will put someone on him.

Youngy

Saad and Newnes.

I'm really thinking Oxley may be a keeper

Jonys

Keep rockliff or trade?

Skeeta

How many weeks left has he got

BKW

3-5

I traded him straight away, chance of another reoccurrence is high and needed for bodies across the byes

scrofl

If you've kept him this long, just hold

General Soreness

I was trying to hold him, but I feel he must go unless news comes out he is back R13-14. I traded him last week, despite trying my best in about 100 different ways to keep him.

Youngy

I'm holding

Feel that when he will come back he will average 110 +

@wheels_1987

im holding.
fingers crossed he comes back early again

Dylan

I dropped him as soon as i heard he re-injured himself. I figure he was rushed back/rushed himself back last time, and they won't take any chances with him this time

5YearPlan

Thoughts on Max Gawn avg 100+ good ruck cover as eventually F7?

Leo

We said the same about Tarrant and this guy is 200 k more then tarrants starting price. His average won't be that high all tear

Patch

Check above, mate. Could be. Maybe. But he isn't this year's Stefan Martin. He needs HO/As and won't get them easily against better ruckman than Grundy/Witts and Longer/Hickey.

Mick

He's lucky to be getting a game for Melb – palmed the ball beautifully to Stevens for Saints winning goal – and he can't kick over a Jam tin !! No

General Soreness

Having cash in the bank is also good ruck cover.

@wheels_1987

not for my team

Ryan

Laird or Hodge?

@KingWinter7

Hodge

Youngy

Hodge

beezneez

I wanted to get both Hodge and Sloane this week. However, this would take me four trades over the next two rounds with two downgrades (Hamling and possibly Shaun Edwards) to get Hodge for Saad and Sloane for CEY. However, if I trade in Laird instead, I will only need three trades. Am thinking the extra trade will come in handy and Laird is playing well and scoring big. I am expecting to have some ups and downs with his scoring but he represents better value and I would expect his price to rise over the next few weeks to a level equal to Hodges.

Francis

lewis or beams??

@KingWinter7

I got both but Beams is finding some nice form lately so i'd go him

Youngy

beams

Danners

Lewis, you're saving yourself a bit of cash

Vince the quince

Beams easily. Money we'll spent

Josh

Currently ranked 1k, 420k in the war chest and 10 trades remaining.

Defence:
McDonald, Shaw, Enright, PIcken, Simpson, Lever (Brown, Pearce)

Midfield:
Fyfe, Pendles, Ward, Danger, Beams, JPK, Wallis, Boston (Heeney, Anderson, Glenn)

Ruck:
Goldy, Nic Nat (Brooksby)

Forward:
Goddard, Swanny, Martin, Deledio, Gray, Titch (Lambert, Read)

Looking at taking advantage of the Bulldogs next four games (Saints, Carlton, Melbourne and Gold Coast), riding the train with PIcken and Wallis and then trading Wallis to Priddis to complete my team.

R13:
Heeney to Montagna.
Brown to B.Smith.

R14:
Downgrade Pearce to 102k loophole defender.
Upgrade Lever to Hodge.

R16:
Wallis to Priddis.
Boston to Steele.

THOUGHTS?

hedski

Got a coupla donuts t trade ya. Otherwise your rockin

@KingWinter7

I really like this team tbh
And if it was mine i'd be trading Brown out this week for Hamling and then trading out Lever for B Smith once Lever has fattened. I'd also be trying pretty hard to get Jordan Lewis into my team so this week i'd be upgrading Heeney to Lewis as you have a large war chest already. Good Luck

Josh

Only got the 15 (potentially 16 if Lambert is named),

This week I've already managed three trades tonight.
Saad to Beams, Bellchambers to Lambert and Mckenzie to Picken.

Brown will go out next week and no point getting in Hamling as I will need by D8 to not play to use the loophole effectively with B.Smith.

Lever to Hodge still seems ideal, don't reckon Lewis looks better than Priddis/Montagna for me! Montag a huge POD.

Josh

I'll take both advice on board though! Cheers lads.

Liam

Hogan to Brodie Smith via higgins ( will switch him back later in the year)

Miller to Beams

Clark to Sloane via gray dpp

Good trades community??

Stickman

Good trades
Brodie Smith and Sloane will never be this cheap and Beams is killing it.
Also all those rookies "appear" to be finished making cash.

@KingWinter7

I would only trade players that aren't playing this week out so i'd keep Hogan until next week, same with Clark if he's named otherwise don't worry about it. Miller to Beams is a good trade, i'm also jumping on Beams. Any other cash cows you have?

Liam

I also have tarrant mcintosh and CEY

Cozza

Do you have 8 on field this week? If not, I'd suggest holding Hogan until next week. He will probably lose a little bit of money this week (BE of 94), but at least he will give you a score. You have a rookie with a bye this week you can trade out instead?

Same deal with Clark, except the rumour is he won't play this week anyway. If he doesn;t play, good trade

Cozza

That should be 18* on field

hedski

Probably best 3 ive seen for a while pull the trigger

Liam

I can field 19 this week and next week too

@KingWinter7

If you can field that many players both rounds after these trades then definitely go for it

Northerner

Whatever Hogan drops this week he is likely to regain in rd 14 as his 31 drops out of his average. I’m planning to keep him F7 for a while yet.

Skeeta

Keep Bellchambers or not???

Patch

Nope. Gone.

Gold Rush

I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a knitting needle, I'm over Bellchambers.

SCaddict

Only if you like inflicting pain and misery….

on yourself!

Billy Bob Thornton

The bloke is a loser, get him out

Youngy

Definitely get him out.

CashCows

Best thing i did last week, was dump him and bring in goldy…do it now!

@wheels_1987

only a bellend would hold the bellchamber

Daniel

when do we get rid of p Cripps?

mcleal10

after you get rid of defensive rookies

Youngy

When he starts scoring below 100.

Timmy

Yeah I'm thinking of holding for now. Going to offload Griffen before Cripps at this stage

Stickman

Has Saad done enough to keep at D6 for the year or is it time to go?

mcleal10

well saad and oxley are considerably even. But no. A full defensive upgrade is more beneficial

@KingWinter7

Time to go i'd say. Done his job as a cash cow and his round 12 bye does not help
I'm upgrading to Hodge this week

SCaddict

Could keep him around a little longer if you have other upgrades to make elsewhere. Could have a good game against the Blues in Rd13. He'll need to be upgraded within the next month nonetheless.

bingobronson

sloane v lewis? thoughts?

mcleal10

Sloane. Lewis is a hothead .

@KingWinter7

Lewis

Youngy

I'd go Lewis

but I might be biased because Sloane burnt me.

Redgumwon

Maybe have a think about a point of difference player. What about Marc Murphy at a tick over $500K and averaging 109 points the last 3 rounds and 100 points average the last 5 rounds. I also like Callan Ward at $567,500 average last 3 rounds 119 amd average last 5 rounds 110 points but he does have the bye coming up

Jonys

Get rid of Saad or Lumumba?

Cozza

Both!! If you had to pick one, Saad is averaging 10 more than Lumumba and more likely to meet his BE this week, so Lumumba this week.

@KingWinter7

The better thing to do is upgrade a cash cow over a fallen premium so i'd trade out Saad first. He has the bye this week anyway whereas Lumumba doesn't

Tyler

I wouldn't call lumumba a fallen premium, he's a mid-pricer now I reckon

Billy Bob Thornton

That squid Lumumba is certainly not a premium. Good luck to anyone who keeps him as D6…

Youngy

I'd go the gift

@wheels_1987

i would say hold lumumba as his bye is next week
get rid of Saad this week

@KingWinter7

The 3 players I planned on trading out this week all killed it, but i gotta stick the plan
If i keep these guys my bye players are overloaded so therefore my trades are:

Brown to Hamling

Saad to Beams

Oxley to Hodge (Can someone tell me why he's a bad pick? Because that's what Jock, Crouching and Higgo all thought)

Juzzy

Great trades King. Of course it's a pity to cull players who are still making money but that's a no-brainer.
Saad Oxley vs. Beams Hodge in your team …
Hodge is a gun. I am going to shuffle some deckchairs to see if I can get him in this week.

Youngy

The theory is that Hodge is a bad pick because he is old and very rarely plays out a full season.

Gets injured a lot.

Ethan

Max Gawn at F7?

Youngy

Not worth a trade, I wouldn't think.

BKW

If he was $150k cheaper, yes – too risky at his price

Rob

Which 2 to trade in this week out of beams lewis and sloane?

@KingWinter7

Beams and Lewis

jacob

Beams and Sloane.

Jason WindowLicker

Lewis and Sloane.

BKW

Beams and Sloane ranger

Youngy

Beams and Lewis for me.

jake

beams and sloane

@wheels_1987

i took Sloan
go Beams as your #2 pick

r2d2

Thoughts on saad too bob murphy , and k Mac too smith ?

@KingWinter7

Sounds good, i like it

@wheels_1987

good trades

L.gibbs

thinking of Getting in Alex Rance at 428 k avg 93. Also waiting on Elliot yeo when he drops in price thoughts?

Youngy

I don't like Yeo. at all

Northerner

He was down this week as he went back to cover McGovern. They want him playing in the guts. I suspect they will bring in Barass this week if McGovern does not get up so they can keep Yeo in the midfield. Not a bad call to wait for his price to retrace. I think he will be still valid given midfield time and high ceiling. Agree too pricey at present.

@wheels_1987

i like it
im holding for Malceski to bottom out though

Jack

If you had to keep one of Ibbotson or Newnes, which one would it be? I can't decide!
The other will be traded this week for probably Hodge.

judd0

Both scored solid this week. Do you have to get rid of either of them?
Do you have Oxley or Saad still? I think Newnes has found a little bit of form and it would be hard to trade out Ibbotson after a 120.
I would have to pick Ibbotson over Newnes just because of the Ibbotsons low BE. Although the Saints have a pretty reasonable draw coming up. Toss a coin.

UDA

I got Ibbo, Ox, Newnes and Saad. For me saad and ox out.

Jack

Saad going out already for Hamling and Oxley went a few weeks back, gotta be one of those 2…..

Billo

Tough call. Ibbo is a proven performer in a winning team, Newnes is now finding some form. I'm backing Ibbo but could go either way.

@wheels_1987

hold both

mcleal10

Deledio, Beams, Hodge, or Kade Simpson?

@KingWinter7

Beams first
Deledio seconds
Hodge and Simpson are very even but probably Simpson just

Danny

must make 2 trades to field a team. Please advise
Saad & Rocky for Hamiling & Hodge…( Hodge will be defense later in year.) i create a bank of $248
or
Saad & D,McKenzie to Hamling & Sloane. ( i lose def/mid, but keep rocky

I feel one of these 2 options is all i can do

@wheels_1987

Ham and Sloan

Daniel

Heeney to lambert to free up some cash? lambert is said to be back in the next week or two… plus, what was jock saying about josh Glenn? do I trade or hold? he’s on my bench?

SCaddict

May as well keep Heeney now as he'll very likely play Rd13 and will soon start earning you more cash again.

Surely Jack Steele has to be a chance of getting a game with all the GWS injuries this round for those contemplating a downgrade this week rather than Lambert of not named.

BKW

Spot on – Steele killed it (again) in the NEAFL on the weekend and his my tip to come in for Coniglio who has a shoulder injury

Northerner

Heard how many weeks?

Juzzy

Also having the Glenn dilemma Daniel.
Been injured but with the GC injury list hopefully back soon. No point trading him unless you are totally screwed in the midfield for round 12.
Jock was referencing a Charlie Dixon joke from a couple of years back. Don't stress.

sam

sloane or lewis??

mcleal10

sloane for price

MC

Thoughts on Trent Cotchin as a bit of a POD? Tiges are flying and he seems to be lifting.

Or should I go with the safer, more expensive option in D Beams/Priddis/S Mitchell?

Youngy

I'm am a Tigers fan and I feel that Cotchin is a bit inconsistent watching him week in week out.

I'd go for the safer option in Beams or Priddis

@wheels_1987

Cotchin = Good POD pick

Mottsy

Bob Murph vs Houli?

jacob

Houli

Danners

Murphy, looking good and more consistent

mcleal10

murph

woodman

Which two out of Houli, Simpson or McDonald disregarding the byes?

Youngy

Simpson and Mcdonald

Oliver

McKenzie, Saad and Krakoeur out
B.Smith, Hamling and Zorko in

These picks seem a little risky but just come off, does anyone know if McKenzie is likely to be back in the team because he still has some cash to make? So I could hold him and trade out ibbotson instead. Same with Krakoeur heard he might be coming back off the rookie list soon.

Dann

Is J Glenn injuried again? he didn't play in the NEAFL this week.

Danners

He's dead…

LongJimmy

yes deceased unfortunately

dave

Vanished off this earth

@wheels_1987

watching weekend at bernies

Tyler

Next week miller to Montagna

Youngy

it would be better to trade miller this week cause he has the bye

Jake

Thoughts on Saad, Miller, Hogan to Hodge, Lewis, Dalhaus

Derek

To many hawthorn players

carlashirley90

If you don't have Sloane you must grab him
Lewis is a miss this year would be surprised if he is going to score in top 10 from last leg of season.

Youngy

Hogan isn't out this week… Don't trade him

Cozza

Surprised Sloane wasn’t mentioned in podcast (unless I missed it). Looks great value to me

Timmmy

Agreed. Although BE of 121 you could hold a week

jake

i believe sloane can achieve that or get close

Derek

Cloke! I’ve had him from the start and he finally delivers, now I have to trade him out (Delidio) to field 18 players.

Astounded

Why would you do a trade just to field 18 players?? Just cop the donut.

Veek

G'day community – woudl love your wisdomes!
I have Mummy & Goldy as Rucks (with Read R3 & TBC as Fwd/Ruck swing)
Cant wait to get TBC out of my team & with Mummy going down with an ankle – just wondered what people think fo getting Kreuzer in as R3??

derek

in a way it is good that Mummy has gone down in the bye rounds. You don't have to have two rucks on field this week or next, you can fill his place with a player from another line.

Billo

Mummy should play next game.

Mighty_Hondo

Mummy out for the season…See GWS website

murray

Hi Community
up to 1112 overall and scored 2143 R11. This week trades Saad to Sloane, D Mckenzie to B Smith and Krakouer to Beasley.
What does everyone think of these trades. Would be near premo and have 10 trades left. Would not need to trade post R12 for a while

derek

who is Beasley? sounds like a waste of a trade.

murray

beasley from Bris, scored 51pts as a def in R10

Billo

What about Hamling instead?

TRIGGER HAPPY

I like most have a nice problem. Got saad, Ibbo, ox, newnes and kk. Not good for the bye but hard to turf any after thus weeks scores. Was gonna go three upgrades but they are going as good as any Def at the moment. And to who? All around 480k. Gibbo, tmac, houli, laird etc. Probably saad to laird as he is the in form Def at the moment? All the others will grow in cash after Rd 13 so probably leave but leaves a very empty Def this week.

derek

I have the same problem. But will have to make the chop. Don't become attached to your rookies, they are calves to the slaughter.

In order of chopping, I would go:

Saad
Oxley
KK
Ibbotson
Newnes

General Soreness

Great podcast gents, Jock clearly sounds less clogged!!

@wheels_1987

nothing like a good plumbing job to clean out the pipes

TRIGGER HAPPY

Sarah being a crows fan thoughts on laird as a keeper in defence? Or anyone else with an opinion on the lad?

Ryan

Already have Gray, Swan, Buddy, Martin and Dahlhaus.

I'm tossing up between Goddard and Delideo as my last forward upgrade, Thoughts?

derek

Goddard. He is $50k cheaper and I don't see much difference in their scoring potential. Delidio is more injury prone.

BKW

Goddard easily

Northerner

I like Edwards from Richmond. Low floor and good consistency. Midfield time. Worth considering.

Matt

What would be the greater priority – b goodes to Simpson or tarrent to dalhaus/delidio?

Matt

Goodes is d8 and tarrent is f6. I still have saad and oxley at d5-6 which I am happy to leave for now as they are still making money and almost scoring like premiums