Dex Files – Round 11 byes
Batten down the hatches community – the byes are here! Rocky is injured. Sloane, Lewis, Dusty, Lids, Maric, Hodge, Beams, Dahlhaus, Bont – not playing. Salem, Clark, McKenzie – under injury clouds. How many of you are struggling to field 18 guys this week.
I’ll tell you; I wasn’t looking to trade this week – but I have to trade to field 18 warm bodies.
This week will be a little different than normal, as I’m not really looking at bringing guys in this week, as it’s the first bye round, we should be either holding firm (if you have ample cover) or downgrades only.
For me; Lewis, Sloane, Dusty, Maric, Dahlhaus and Rocky are missing – yes, I’m holding Rocky. Goodes, Lambert, Salem, Clark and McKenzie are under injury clouds, so I need to trade to have warm bodies this week.
I have fattened rookies in CEY and McIntosh to burn, although Clark and/or Salem are likely to go if they miss. It’s a dogs breakfast this year community.
This weeks’ aim should be all about cash generation, but for me – worst case (with no trades spent) I’ll have 14 doughnuts. Not ideal. I could trade CEY, McIntosh and maybe Clark or Salem to bubble boys, or even cheaper guys that are likely to play in the next few weeks ….*Crickets*… and maybe I’ll have 19-20 warm bodies and a nice 5-600k kitty to play with next week.
On the other hand 2 of McKenzie/Clark/Salem could play. I could trade McIntosh & CEY to bubble boys and field 19-20 guys and be laughing with 500k or so in the bank.
These are all hypotheticals by the way. Teams tomorrow will, or should, help us decide.
What I’m getting at is – This week, you should not be looking at upgrades! Therefore I am not endorsing an upgrade. But, if you absolutely MUST upgrade – who do you go to?
Defenders:
The only guys that aren’t missing this week that I recommend to go would be Shaw, McDonald, McGovern and Enright. These guys have a good bye round (RD13) and for those needing an upgrade – they’re my picks. (I stress again, upgrades shouldn’t be done this week). There are a couple of round 11 defenders that will be ripe for the picking over the next few weeks – I’m looking at you Smith & Simpson!
Midfielders:
Those of you with Rocky and plan to trade, there are a plethora of options for you – I’m still keen on holding him, but some can’t afford to – if you don’t have Selwood, he’s my no-brainer option this week. Most of us have Fyfe, but if you don’t; you’re SuperCoach-ing wrong. Get him in!
Rucks:
Most of us have one or both of Goldy/Maric/NicNat/Mummy, but for those with Bellchambers or similar at R2 – Goldy or Mummy are great options for you – if you need to trade.
Forwards:
Who’d have thought JJK would be in the top 6 averaging and total scoring forwards by round 11; Not me! I believe it’s far too late to jump on him, but good luck to you if you do. For mine, I wouldn’t plan on bringing anyone into your forwards this week, but if you must – Gray is the must-have forward, or Buddy is serious value.
I may have missed some “Targets”, but this is more a guide for those that need it. Most of us already have plans, which are taking a hiding *thanks SC Gods*. Stick to your guns and only trade up if you absolutely must!
Well Community, I hope this “different” Dex Files appeals to you and I hope you had a safe long weekend. (Go Pies!)
Do you agree with the No-Upgrade policy this week? What rookies are you looking at bringing in (if any)? We’d love to hear from you!
344 Comments
Rob · 10/06/2015 at 14:58
Love your work dex, great stuff
Youngy · 11/06/2015 at 17:39
Agreed, this weeks Dex Files has cleared my mind quiet a bit
Jackson · 10/06/2015 at 15:03
Hey Dex i want to get either motlop or devon smith as my F6 devon is 456k and Motlop is 388k should i go the cheaper option in motlop or go Devon Smith who has the ability to ton up often with the possibility of low scores?? Thanks. Who do you see as the better option Cheers.
Danners · 10/06/2015 at 15:27
I like the look of Devon Smith, more reliable at the moment
Peter17 · 10/06/2015 at 16:27
An experienced supercoacher would analyse the future fixtures of these two players. Don't just rely on these 'experts' to get you through every week, make some decisions on your own, it is the only way you are going to improve.
Jack · 10/06/2015 at 17:43
Great community spirit, mate.
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 17:54
Not mr jenkins? Ha ha
Jackson · 10/06/2015 at 18:28
KYS Macca
General Soreness · 10/06/2015 at 15:03
Dex the "different" Dex files is brilliant in both its content and timing. Your contributions are very much appreciated.
Skindog · 10/06/2015 at 22:06
Go get em' General,, I think I speak for everyone in the Throttledome by saying we're all behind you mate,,,,get it done!!!
Deadly · 10/06/2015 at 15:04
Yes mate, downgrade to Boston a definite, and Pearce a maybe.
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 19:39
I would say, Pearce a definite and Boston a maybe
Matt · 10/06/2015 at 15:04
Current Midfield is:
Fyfe, Pendles, Sloane, Ebert, Shiel, Rockliff, Parker.
I'm looking at one of Armitage, Hannebery or Priddis to fill my last slot, but I already have Mitchell, Parker, and Franklin, which is leading me away from Hanners a bit. Who do you reckon is a good pick?
theshark · 10/06/2015 at 15:10
selwood? flew home last year
the chef · 10/06/2015 at 15:52
Wouldn't go near Selwood. Him and Geelong past it.
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 15:57
Ha ha. Bringing selly in this week. To cheap to refuse. Gun.
mcleal10 · 10/06/2015 at 16:12
not this season
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 17:55
Not yet
scrofl · 10/06/2015 at 16:48
Priddis is a reliable scorer, and he can go huge as well!
lincoln · 10/06/2015 at 15:04
So you would still hold griffen the dud?
Danners · 10/06/2015 at 15:25
He should be the last player you worry about
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 15:58
Punted him a month ago best move next to kickin the prince out
Liam · 10/06/2015 at 15:05
This weeks trades:
Goodes down to pearce
Heeney down to boston
TBC down to Dale
Leaves me with 550k in the warchest for next weeks upgrades
Good trades or not??
Lewis · 10/06/2015 at 16:01
heeney is back in a couple of weeks should of traded earlier,Pearce not good job security
Bad trades
Liam · 10/06/2015 at 16:04
Cheers Lewis
jeremy · 10/06/2015 at 16:12
I disagree with lewis. I think they are good downgrades.
Also FYI lewis, pearce's JS is rock solid now that johnson is out.
r2d2 · 10/06/2015 at 16:53
Pearce will play next 6-8 games for sure ! Get him in
Dean · 10/06/2015 at 17:27
Lewis who cares if Heeney is back in a couple of weeks, he has a high break even and will more than likely end up being the SUB when he does get back and will lose you a TON of cash.
My number 1 trade this week is DEFIANTLY trading Heeney to Boston, it's a no brainer.
Also if Pearce gets recalled then his job security will be solid due to Johnson being out for 10 weeks. I totally disagree with you on this mate.
Lewis · 10/06/2015 at 21:15
Fellas Alex silvagni back in a couple of weeks peace might make you 50k you don’t get points for how well they play in the WAFL Ablett back at the end of byes Boston spot no guarantee
jeremy · 10/06/2015 at 21:29
alright then lewis
BKW · 11/06/2015 at 08:54
silvagni and Dawson both listed as 5-7 weeks – Peace should have a good run of 4-5 games at least but I suspect he then looses his spot
Ethan · 10/06/2015 at 21:43
any bulldog rookie is really no secure in the team. Webb, Mclean and dale could have some spells in the vfl. Kepping TBC at F7 is all you need. We just need him just in case a goldstein gets a one week spell
Richard · 10/06/2015 at 15:05
Value in Selwood/Buddy too good to resist this week for me.
Plus I have important bragging rights to win against someone in the office!
Jack · 10/06/2015 at 17:45
Priorities! I like it!
theshark · 10/06/2015 at 15:08
For someone like myself who sits in the top 3% (highly unlikely ill get high enough to win overall) and highly ranked in his/her leagues (cash leagues vs mates) would you implore supercoachers to concede bye trading strategy to look long term to get the right price for your players setting up for your team for when it really matters. I cant justify losing 30k in not trading bellchambers for goldstein this week or a selwood, sloane trade in. cheers for the great work mate
Gold Rush · 10/06/2015 at 19:04
I'm with you, get them while there cheap. e.g Franklin due to rise 39K this week, will not be able to afford him next week so I got him, one down, two up this week.
Seaford Scouse · 10/06/2015 at 21:52
You have to trade to suit your needs shark, if that's what's gonna set you up for your cash leagues then bang bloody bang mate and good luck with 'em!
Crabb · 10/06/2015 at 15:10
Not really sure of your reasons for no upgrades, Dex (unless a must). I mean, I get the concern of trading in a premo which is guaranteed to get a donut – but if you're round 12 heavy, for instance, and are looking for a bit of balance, an upgrade of Mckenzie (if injured) to Selwood, must surely be a positive move, even if it isn't a absolutely necessary.
Tyler · 10/06/2015 at 16:17
If you're round 12 heavy it is a must (or at least a priority) to bring in premos without the round 12 bye
Dean · 10/06/2015 at 17:14
Yes but do those corrections in Round 12 and select players who had there bye in round 11
BKW · 11/06/2015 at 08:58
Ideally yes, but I’m short on players this round and need to fix my bye structures so brining in Selwood and Wines.
Next week I’ll trade in a few guys that have had their bye and will do the same the following week.
I don’t think there are any black and white rules about trading this weekend. It depends on how much cash you have in the bank, how many trades you have made, if you have cows ready to cull, your bye round structures, if there are fallen premiums of must have rookies on the bubble available etc – do what works for your team!
Jayden · 10/06/2015 at 15:14
Yup no upgrades this week only downgrades
Thinking about doing
CEY – Pearce/Hamling ( not sure who yet)
Krakouer – Boston
Then next week
Saad – Simpson
De Goey – Midfield upgrade
R13
Tarrant – Fwd upgrade
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 19:43
Hamling has Round 11 bye. Get him round 12.
I’ll be trading out Saad for Hamling r12
I N Pieman · 10/06/2015 at 15:18
Excellent as always Dex. I think most people will have one dreaded round. Have to wait for teams to make a call on this week. Next week is my nasty one, as probably with most. But I can trade my way to 18 players next week unless the gods reap havoc. Which is a certainty, happens every week
Skindog · 10/06/2015 at 22:03
Trade for the future Pieman, take the hits, come out on the otherside like a boss!! my plan, but, as well as im going in the Throttledome maybey not good advice, or is it??
Swans2012 · 10/06/2015 at 15:23
I’ll be thickening up my midfield stocks this week with a round 13 premo, just need a bit more midfield punch in 11 and 12. But will probably also downgrade belch (r3) to brooksby and maybe Clark to Boston
nathan · 10/06/2015 at 15:29
Great write up once again
I’m looking at wines this week
With Boston and A Pearce aswell
Already have selwood, had him from the start
I think wines has great value at 530k
Is there anyone else cheaper and same scoring output?
BKW · 10/06/2015 at 17:52
The only one cheaper with similar output I can think of is Tom Mitchell, but he has the round 12 bye (does not suit my bye strucutres) – but I’m guessing you prob have Mitchell already anyway?
Taking out Wines injury score he is averaging 116 this season, quite impressive
northernsoul74 · 10/06/2015 at 15:31
Fairly positive noises from West about Pearce's job security. Looks like he'll be given every opportunity to cover for Johnson for the foreseeable.
Jackson · 10/06/2015 at 15:38
cool
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 19:46
It’s almost certain that Pearce will be named to cover Johnson. Lyon interview today
TOM · 10/06/2015 at 15:31
McIntosh to Pearce
CEY to Boston
Clark to Goddard
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 16:16
Nice
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 19:46
Very nice
NateCrows · 10/06/2015 at 15:35
Awesome Article!!!
Question:
If i have lots of Rnd 11 and 13 byes (20 and 21) playing.
Trading to premium on their bye? help with my round 12 bye but lose the score
the chef · 10/06/2015 at 15:39
I dont usually post on here as I like to do my own thing. But these next few weeks are going to really test my nerve (new to this game so plan for the byes)
Im not sure who to trade out but I want to trade down this week and get pull premo after round 13
I have 19 trades and 288k I would love some thoughts community. Thankyou very much in advance.
Back: shaw, tmac, newnes, saad, hamling, Dmac (goodes, brown)
Mid: fyfe, beams, steven, JPK, parker, ebert, Vandenberg, CEY (rocky, heeney, glenn)
Ruck: maric, nic nat (read)
Fwd: gray, martin, swan, Tarrant, titch, clark (TBC, krak)
Ethan · 10/06/2015 at 15:53
Goodes and either CEY or vandy should go. Should give you enough cash for a massive upgrade in the next 2 weeks
Tyler · 10/06/2015 at 16:28
A few trades which would give you plenty of cash:
Goodes to Pearce
CEY to boston
Krak to dale
Dmac to clurey
Clark to brooksby
vandenberg to lambert
r2d2 · 10/06/2015 at 16:55
Clurey will only play 1 more max! Trengove could even be back this week
jake · 10/06/2015 at 15:48
thoughts on ollie wines?
Ryan · 10/06/2015 at 17:40
gun – get him in
Flozza · 10/06/2015 at 18:43
Wines in for cey this week.
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 19:51
Might be top 12 average by year end. Not in top 8 though, he is definitely on the next level
cow roll · 11/06/2015 at 03:09
who are your top 8 mids?
Dann · 11/06/2015 at 05:55
I think he'll finish with a higher average than JP Kennedy
Liam · 10/06/2015 at 15:50
Thoughts on Gunston community?
Thinking of bringing him in next week.
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 15:55
I started with him. Fairly consistant 90s with a few big ones thrown in. Been good for me. Cheers
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 19:52
Don’t. Hawks share to much
Danners · 11/06/2015 at 12:08
Good option, looks reliable enough
r2d2 · 10/06/2015 at 15:51
Cey down to dumont and Boston …. And k Mac upto kelly or Enright …. Thoughts ?
r2d2 · 10/06/2015 at 15:51
Or Boston I mean
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 15:56
More cash saved getting boston and prob better js?
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 16:25
Definitely Boston, getting midfield time and doesn't look any danger of being sub
tom · 10/06/2015 at 16:24
will Dahlhaus be a top 6 forward come end of year?
Looking at bringing him in next week, are there any better options?
already have gray, martin, franklin and swan
Deadly · 10/06/2015 at 16:37
There or thereabouts – others are Lids, BJ, Mitchell and Bonts depending on how much you want to invest.
KANGAS0000 · 10/06/2015 at 16:41
Sidebottom or dangerfield??
Liam · 10/06/2015 at 16:57
If you're looking for a premo i would suggest ollie wines unless you have the cash to go for sidey or danger
KANGAS0000 · 10/06/2015 at 17:07
i've got the money mate, thats why i asked haha
theshark · 10/06/2015 at 17:22
sidebottom
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 17:39
Danger
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 17:23
The two are so close. I think sidebottom will receive less tagging attention but with crisp taking some midfield time and greenwood to come back for the pies danger has more scoring potential so i'd pick Patrick
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 19:54
Too expensive.
Ethan · 10/06/2015 at 21:44
neither. Both too high priced to get. Wait till a slight dip in form then jump on
TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/06/2015 at 22:22
Danger rd 12, sidebum rd 13 as should drop about $30k after this week or you should go beams next week. That is if u dont have wines if not get him in. Quadzilla just gonna get better.
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 23:38
Wines not quite to Dangerfield, Beams and Didebottoms class yet
TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/06/2015 at 09:21
Yep but the gap is closing
Youngy · 11/06/2015 at 17:25
Sidebum, Don't worry about his breakeven
tom · 10/06/2015 at 16:48
If I can upgrade hogan to Dahlhaus this week should I?
I can cover dahlhaus and with Hogans high BE i will be saving money
KANGAS0000 · 10/06/2015 at 16:51
Sounds good mate probably a safe move
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 17:24
Good Call. Hogan is only going to loose money
Dean · 10/06/2015 at 18:18
i wouldn;t be trading players like Hogan out now especially to bring in someone who has the bye this week, it makes no sense at all.
Hogan has a average of 76 and his break even is 96 so it's not like his break even is through the roof. I don't think he will ton up but it's possible and he shouldn't lose more then $15,000 this week.
I don't understand why in the world you are considering trading a player who is likely to play this week to someone who isn't playing, its madness.
Remember it's your top 18 scores that count, so if you have 20 players playing this week & hypothetically speaking Hogan happens to score higher than another player then you get those highest points, so in a nutshell your much better off having more players onfield as opposed to trading in a non player.
Phil · 10/06/2015 at 20:59
I agree with Dean. You would be absolutely kicking yourself if Hogan tons up this week, like he has a couple of times already, and is one of your top scorers.
If you don't trade him and he spuds, you lose 20 odd k and no change to points as he wont be top 18. Remember essentially the game is about points.
Ethan · 10/06/2015 at 21:44
would be smarter if you waited a week, no point bringing in a premo if he's guarenteed a zero
Benn · 10/06/2015 at 16:55
Should I trade Garland or Newnes?
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 17:25
Garland, newnes has been really good except for the Hawthorn game over the past 5 weeks and should score well against melbourne this week
Swans2012 · 10/06/2015 at 17:32
No
demon · 10/06/2015 at 22:04
Garland broke his hand in the first qtr against the pies, had surgery yesterday so you'll need to trade
Youngy · 11/06/2015 at 17:26
Garland
Gareth · 10/06/2015 at 17:21
Upgrade TBC to Blicavs or Sauce? Spending so much money, I want to get it right.
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 17:25
I think sauce is a safer bet. Led the league in hitouts to advantage last year which are worth 5 points and he's not far off no.1 spot this year
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 17:30
And on top of that Jacobs has had 4 juicy tonnes out of his last 5 games whereas Blicavs has had 2 and only one cracked 120
Swans2012 · 10/06/2015 at 17:33
Sauce by the length of a bottle
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 19:59
Sauce by a long way. Lot of hype over Blicav, he is over achieving and people will be trying to get rid of him in a few week
SCaddict · 10/06/2015 at 20:07
I'm going to throw some love Blicavs' way. Has been super consistent with no scores below 70 where Sauce has 3 already. Has the slight edge in season average and is cheaper too.
Arguably the most improved player in the comp and you are essentially getting another premo mid in one of your ruck spots.
Phil · 10/06/2015 at 21:02
Put it this way Gareth everyone is raving on about how well Blicavs is going but nobody is saying anything about Sauce. Yet, Sauce has averaged more than him.
TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/06/2015 at 22:27
Sauce no 1 last year and imagine having danger, crouch and sloane at your feet in the next few weeks. It will be a crow feeding frenzy with big sauce giving them the armchair ride.
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 23:39
Thompson pretty good as well
r2d2 · 10/06/2015 at 17:48
Thoughts on j “nuts ” kelly ?
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 18:41
would wait another week or two to see if he's definitely going to get midfield minutes. If so he'll be solid as a rock as a defense selection
Sean · 10/06/2015 at 17:53
Have to bring in a round 13 fwd due to bye structures. Already have Robbie Gray, who is the next best option? Boomer?
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 18:43
Boomer would be a pretty good POD but i'd have Martin, Goddard, Mitchell, Swan before him. Shane Edwards looks to have a good role at richmond and is averaging over 100 so he's a nice POD as well
@KingWinter7 · 10/06/2015 at 19:25
Your main options look like Devon Smith, JJK and Boomer
I'd personally go Smith who is a massive pod with huge upside
Jackson · 11/06/2015 at 09:52
Jack Ziebell is another great option as a rd 13 bye player at 456k averaging 99 if you take out his 4 due to injury
Sean · 11/06/2015 at 13:24
Thanks
Krazee-Eyez Killa · 10/06/2015 at 18:05
Got a very rough and possibly foolish plan over the next few weeks. 9 trades, 0 f*cks given.
Rd 11: CEY, Clark, Krak OUT – Jelwood, Boston, Brooksby IN
Rd 12: Kmac, Brown, Tarrant OUT – Hodge, B. Smith, Sloane IN.
Rd 13: Wallis, Saad, Ibbotson OUT – T McDonald, Lewis, Pearce IN.
No doubt I’ll change my mind a bunch of times, given I’d like to hold out on a few of those guys with high BE’s, but I wanna strike while the iron is hot and make the most of the 3 trades during bye rounds.
Coming out of the byes this will hopefully be my team if all goes to plan, with only 8 trades left and probably not much cash in the bank.
Simpson, Shaw, McDonald (Pearce)
B. Smith, Hodge, Newnes (Hamling)
Fyfe, Pendlebury, Beams, JPK (McKenzie) (Boston)
Selwood, Sloane, Cripps, Lewis (Glenn)
Goldstein, NicNat (Brooksby)
Gray, Swan, Franklin (Cox)
Martin, Goddard, T. Mitchell (Lonie)
If you’ve got an opinion, go nuts
Jack · 10/06/2015 at 18:08
I’ve taken a screenshot of your comment. I’m a big fan of your plan. Cripps is getting better by the week, I wouldn’t be rushing to move him on either.
My comment is just below yours, looks reasonably similar, you have a bit more worked out at this stage. Nice work!
TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/06/2015 at 22:36
And to add to the extractors appeal is now C Judd has said goodbye to the football world cripps will get even more of the pill. Staying put in my team for now.
Krazee-Eyez Killa · 12/06/2015 at 01:08
Depending on how he goes, Cripps could remain in my team til the end. May even end up being a good player to upgrade to Ablett when he drops. We’ve already seen how high his ceiling is and I got Wallis into my team only to make me some quick cash to turn him into a Sloane or Lewis
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 18:45
That round 12 looks juicy as all hell. I like your plan as it's very similar to mine so don't look back and each of the 9 trades look to be worth it
Sam Loy · 11/06/2015 at 01:58
I'd hold Wallis over Cripps.
Krazee-Eyez Killa · 12/06/2015 at 01:05
Thanks for the feedback fellas. Despite the ins and outs this week, I’m sticking fat with my plan cause it works for me long term. If it works, great. If not, at least it’s been fun
Jack · 10/06/2015 at 18:05
Agreed, Dex. Had pencilled in three downgrades this week as well.
Macintosh to Pearce.
Clark to Boston via Krakoeur.
Bellchambers to Brooksby.
Leaves with 630k *drools* and still 17 trades left.
Next week I have planned as such;
Salem to Maric via Read
Rich to Dangerfield
Goodes to Brodie Smith
May even go Goodes to Hamling and net even more cash because Smith’s break even is 117
I’m not sure I’ll come out of the byes with full premo but I’m out of the running for overall and sitting comfortably in all leagues. Oxely and Saad, I’m not any rush to move them on just yet. Both have been good enough to be league winning keepers at this stage. CEY has become a worry and Lonie and Tarrant need to be moved on so, yes, looks like full premo has escaped me just at the minute.
@KingWinter7 · 10/06/2015 at 18:39
Brooksby…. yes or no?
Only using 2 trades this week (McIntosh > Pearce + Anderson > Boston) so possibly could go Read to Brooksby but not sure if it's work a trade. Worried about his js and his scoring not being too great
Works well with my byes though as Round 11 (Maric benched), Round 12 (Brooksby benched), Round 13 (Goldy benched)
Don't have many trades left as well so not sure
Harry · 10/06/2015 at 18:46
I would say no. If you can get 18 scoring players on the park there is no need to get Brooksby
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 18:49
I don't think Read to brooksby is worth it. You may as well bank that your two rucks will not get injured and if one does then you'll have that trade you didn't use for brooksby to get another one in and during the byes brooksby's score won't factor in to your 18 counted scores as he'll probably be producing 40-50
@KingWinter7 · 10/06/2015 at 19:23
I'm thinking the same. Cheers guys
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 20:04
Big no. Why?
Brooke Richards · 10/06/2015 at 18:49
Bring in Pearce or Hamling, if I bring in pearce will only have 17 round 12 instead of 18?
@KingWinter7 · 10/06/2015 at 19:20
Pearce this week, Hamling next
Brooke Richards · 10/06/2015 at 19:42
I cant, already have 3 trades planned next week, please help!
Phil · 10/06/2015 at 21:07
There scoring potential should be similar so I'd take the guy who suits your bye structure better…..Hamling. You'll gain 50 points (give or take) from this straight away in Round 12.
wayno1313 · 11/06/2015 at 12:52
It's obvious isn't it. Go Hamling. I think Hamling is the better pick anyway
Youngy · 11/06/2015 at 17:27
Depends if Pearce plays or not.
Dean · 10/06/2015 at 18:50
Goodes to Smith a great move in round 12 as u would bring in Smith expecting him to become a premium. I will DEFINITELY be bringing in Smith and will be treating him as a very cheap premo
Good Luck.
@KingWinter7 · 10/06/2015 at 19:21
I brought him in for 512k just to receive a bunch of 60's and a concussion
He better start producing soon!
Harry · 10/06/2015 at 19:07
McIntosh to Pearce
CEY to Boston
Clark to Goddard
Next week
Saad to Hodge
Miller to Danger
Hogan to Dahlhaus
@KingWinter7 · 10/06/2015 at 19:23
I would wait on Goddard, wait until he plays at least 1 game
Harry · 10/06/2015 at 19:35
Which rookie fwd should I look to bring in?
Danny S · 10/06/2015 at 19:08
Upgrading in the backline this week due to only Mcintosh having the bye. Who do you guys think will score the best out of Houli, Murphy or Simpson?
SCaddict · 10/06/2015 at 19:20
I'd give the slight edge to Simmo although all 3 are terrific upgrade targets.
I'd also throw Laird into that mix of Rd11 bye premo defenders that are desirable acquisitions during the byes.
I already have Kade so intend picking up Houli next week.
@KingWinter7 · 10/06/2015 at 19:22
1. Simpson
2. Houli
3. Murphy
McDonald first though as he has round 13 bye so you'll get 2 games from him before
Nicholas · 10/06/2015 at 19:21
Hey community,
This week i am not sure what to do. I have $1100 in the bank which is nothing at all i know. I also have a low amount of 15 trades however i am nearly full premo. I am ranked at top 3%(6785). I was trying to think of the best way to get wines in this week however my round 13 bye is already a bit full. However i really think Wines can keep this form up and be a really good player to finsih with especially at this cheap price. Also would i want to downgrade some players make cash for the following rounds. Possible players to remove would be rocky, cey, krak, kmic and griffen who i will probably trade out after his bye.
Def- shaw, taylor, saad,tmac, mcintosh, lever( leslie, hamling)
Mid- fyfe, priddis, selwood, grifen, lewis, rockliffe, boston, parker (cey, krak, d mckenz)
Ruck- goldy, nic nat (read)
Foward- gray, martin, franklin, goddard,swan, deledio ( hogan,clark)
here is my bye structure:
Round 11- lever, rocky,deledio, lewis, martin, kmcintosh, hamling, cey,8 players out
Round 12- swan, goddard, fyfe, , saad, leslie, franklin, dmac, boston, parker-9 players out
Round 13- selwood, clark, taylor, griffen, shaw, priddis, Hogan, krak, gold, nic nat, gray, read, tmac- 13 players out
Please suggest some good trades i could do this week
Thanks for your help and time
patrick · 10/06/2015 at 22:22
you are very low on trades maybe an option to not trade this round
Dean · 10/06/2015 at 22:55
I posted this lower but meant to post it here.
Ok mate obviously yor priority this week is to ONLY trade down as you need the cash. I personally think its absurd trading players out who are listed to play in the first bye round, unless you have NO other option to have 18 playing during each bye round.
First thing I would do this week is trade McIntosh out and bring in Pearce – This will pocket you $180k
Secondly I would trade out Clark if he is not playing and bring in Hough Goddard – This will pocket you another $183k
If GLENN is listed play trade out KRAKOUER and bring in GLENN as he is on the bubble – This will pocket you $156k
Lastly if GLENN is not listed to play this week, you could consider trading out Rocky and bring in Sloane as that wont cost u anything but you will have that extra premo ready for round 12
Round 12
Then in round 12 straight swap from Saad to Smith, you should make around $40k from this – I am positive Smith will be the most traded in player in round 12 as he is only $340k and he really only dropped 163k due to being concussed twice, it takes a good 4 weeks to get back to your usual self after being concussed so he should start scoring 80+ .
Trade 2: CEY out to any premium you wish just make sure its a player that had his bye from round 11 – If you spent $600k on a premium
This will leave you with around $325k+ in the kitty if you traded out KRAK to GLENN.
Good luck mate
Nicholas · 11/06/2015 at 00:23
The only problem with downgrading kmac is that i have no really good way to upgrade to a premo defender as my only rookie who has peaked would be saad and is be stuck with 4 premo defenders and 2 cheap rookies on field
Harry · 10/06/2015 at 20:04
Who is Gary?
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 20:11
I think he posted on the wrong site.
Rob · 10/06/2015 at 20:14
Hey community!
I need help with a decision whether to trade or not.
My team is as follows
BACK: Shaw, simpson, newnes, Hibbered, Lever,Saad ( mckintosh and hamling)
Mid: Fyfe, selwood, Gray, D.Mckenzie, Kennedy, Shiel, Cripps, Priddis( CEY, Dumont, Blakely)
Ruck: Blicavs, Nicnat( read)
FWD: Roughy, Martin, Bont, Hogan, Franklin,Tarrant( Lonie and lambert)
With 220K in the bank do I downgrade to prepare for next week and also this week i may stuggle to get 18 players due to Mckenzie.
Thoughts?
Dean · 10/06/2015 at 20:27
Yes McIntosh to Pearce
Bruce · 10/06/2015 at 20:58
Mcintosh to pearce
Lonie to dale
Mckenzie to wines
wayno1313 · 11/06/2015 at 12:59
You shouldn't be trading any of your defense down. You already have 4 Rookies there. I'd look at upgrading Mcintosh and Saad over the byes. Unfortunately you don't have enough cash for the number of upgrades that you need to do so you may need to downgrade mcintosh to Pearce and run with a rookie on the ground until you can upgrade the extra rookie.
Dean · 10/06/2015 at 20:24
Ok mate obviously yor priority this week is to ONLY trade down as you need the cash. I personally think its absurd trading players out who are listed to play in the first bye round, unless you have NO other option to have 18 playing during each bye round.
First thing I would do this week is trade McIntosh out and bring in Pearce – This will pocket you $180k
Secondly I would trade out Clark if he is not playing and bring in Hough Goddard – This will pocket you another $183k
If GLENN is listed play trade out KRAKOUER and bring in GLENN as he is on the bubble – This will pocket you $156k
Lastly if GLENN is not listed to play this week, you could consider trading out Rocky and bring in Sloane as that wont cost u anything but you will have that extra premo ready for round 12
Round 12
Then in round 12 straight swap from Saad to Smith, you should make around $40k from this – I am positive Smith will be the most traded in player in round 12 as he is only $340k and he really only dropped 163k due to being concussed twice, it takes a good 4 weeks to get back to your usual self after being concussed so he should start scoring 80+ .
Trade 2: CEY out to any premium you wish just make sure its a player that had his bye from round 11 – If you spent $600k on a premium
This will leave you with around $325k+ in the kitty if you traded out KRAK to GLENN.
Good luck mate
DUSTMARTINLUVOFMYLYF · 10/06/2015 at 20:40
Need Help community!
BANK: 105K TRADES: 18
DEF: Shaw, Simpson, Newnes, Henderson, Lumumba, Saad, (Hamling, Mcintosh)
MID: Fyfe, Dangerfield, JPK, Parker, Steven, Griffen, Miller, Ellis-Yolmen (Rockliff, McKenzie, Glenn)
RUCK: Goldstein, Bellchambers, (Naismith)
FOR: Gray, Martin, Swan, Mitchell, Rioli, Tarrant, (Krak, Clark)
I was thinking
Rockliff – Selwood
Miller – Boston
CEY- Lambert Via Krak DPP
Some imput would be much appreciated
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 21:25
WOuld just do the Selwood and Boston trades as CEY only has a 70 odd breakeven and his score should be useful for byes whereas lambert probably won't play for a while and maybe not at all.
Dean · 10/06/2015 at 23:05
You need to make cash this round that should be your priority if u have 18 players playing.
Don't trade players who are listed to play such as Miler, the more players u have on field the better as only your BEST 18 scores are calculated.
CEY to Hieth Goddard would be a much safer option, he was named on the Emergency list last week….
Next week SAAD straight to SMITH and throw away the key… WELCOME
wayno1313 · 11/06/2015 at 13:02
I'd also like to add, to not just look at the 18 this week but also consider all bye weeks. If you trade out CEY then you may have trouble getting 18 in round 12. If you are low on round 12 then you should try to keep round 12 rookies until after round 12.
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 23:45
How do you sleep at night with TBC as your R2?
Jono · 10/06/2015 at 20:45
Wines or Ebert? Hold or trade Rocky? Thoughts appreciated
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 21:27
Wines will be more consistent as Ebert gets shut down every now and again and can't win his own ball as much as wines
Hold rocky unless he'll be giving you a donut during the byes, he'll be a decent POD later int he season and is saving you a trade
Tyler · 11/06/2015 at 07:10
He saves you 2 trades, one trading him and out and one trading him back in
Stevo · 10/06/2015 at 20:47
Would you rather:
Cox to Brooksby
Cockatoo to Boston
Harry · 10/06/2015 at 20:57
Cocky to Boston
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 21:27
Definitely Boston. Better scoring output and job security.
Danners · 11/06/2015 at 12:07
Cockatoo to Boston
Stevo · 11/06/2015 at 17:15
Cheers
Liam · 10/06/2015 at 20:50
who has to go first out of heeney and CEY?
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 21:28
Heeney, haven't heard when he'll be back and CEY will score decent numbers for you in the last two bye rounds.
SCaddict · 11/06/2015 at 01:46
Heeney is expected back after the Swans Rd12 bye.
Horse said he could probably play this week but with the bye the following week they may as well give him an extra couple of weeks off just to be safe.
Danners · 11/06/2015 at 12:07
Heeney, round 12 bye
Rob · 10/06/2015 at 20:56
Heeney to Boston
TBC to dale
Goodes to pearce
next week:
Miller to sloane
Saad to smith
Hogan to lewis (via dpp)
Round 13:
Clark downgrade
CEY to JPK
Mcintosh to hodge
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 21:30
Nice plan. Mine is very similar but Sloan, Lewis and Hodge should all finish the year really strong
TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/06/2015 at 22:44
Lewis , smith and sloane will all be much cheaper again in rd 13. Just something to consider if you want to save some coin.
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 21:26
Is gary his dog?
James · 10/06/2015 at 22:11
Not sure what I should do,
Trade out Bellchambers this week for Goldstein or hold Bellchambers this week and get either Jacobs or Martin in round 12? My other ruckman is Mumford.
What should I do community?
Cheers
TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/06/2015 at 22:45
Tbc to goldy – he aint gonna get any cheaper if u want him grab him now.
TRIGGER HAPPY · 10/06/2015 at 22:47
If tbc gets a rest this week which is on the cards can hold and go rd 12 upgrade. But if named tbc will leak cash this week so if you arent holding him as backup and want goldy pull the trigger.
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 23:08
This is the week to get goldy, BE of 42. Even against Sydney he;ll get a tonne or near one
stevie · 10/06/2015 at 22:45
Hey community, I'm still holding tom lamb somehow…
Should I just leave him there or waste the trade on Steele or Goddard if named?
Other trades will be nvb to Boston and kmac to Pearce or maybe even Dumont via swing
I'm holding CEY in the hopes that I can keep him all year as bench cover, any one else have that thought?
hedski · 10/06/2015 at 23:02
Yeah thought that bout cey… then went bang
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 23:06
Lamb is 3-4 weeks away
Ethan · 11/06/2015 at 08:52
i doubt lamb will get a spot back into the team
Jake · 10/06/2015 at 22:59
Wines or selwood?
Derek · 10/06/2015 at 23:05
Selwood is true A grader. Wines still the level below
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 23:11
Wines should average 110 whereas Selwood is capable of 120 but hasn't has as gooder form as Wines. I don't think you can go wrong with either but i like selwood and think he's getting over a niggle and will Romp home with plents of tonnes
Connor · 10/06/2015 at 23:00
Hey Guys, (Jock and Co.)
Just wondering what is happening with the podcasts and Lekdog’s weekly videos? Have you stopped doing them for a reason, or just have no time?
Cheers
Gryffindor · 10/06/2015 at 23:10
Lekdog posted a video yesterday and Jock has been ill so that's why last thursday and sunday's videos weren't made. Should be back soon i hope!
LEKD0G · 11/06/2015 at 01:55
Yeah mate, check out my video here: http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2015/06/09/mo-supe…
and Jock has been crook so the last couple of podcasts haven't gone up but we'll be back on Thursday!
oliverfisher · 11/06/2015 at 01:58
Hi community, in a little bit of a dilemma for who to trade this week as my round 12 is not very kind for me. So thinking of going early with some trades as i will still have 18 or 19 playing this week.
Thinking Rd 12: Bellchambers, Miller and Krakouer out
Amon, Boston and Goldstein in
Rd 13: Saad, Ibbotson,Oxley out
Hamling, Hodge, Simpson in
oliverfisher · 11/06/2015 at 06:03
Actually i could trade out Miller for Pearce, instead of Boston. Would that be a better option?
Pauly Walnuts · 11/06/2015 at 10:56
Boston ATM ,Pearce still listed as injured but might play, try and get both if you can. I have Boston already but want Pearce in for C Mac this week.
derek · 11/06/2015 at 12:36
try and get Hamling in round 12 when he is on the bubble
SCaddict · 11/06/2015 at 17:19
You may as well get Krak out this week as he's an empty suit right now.
Besides you may need to use that trade on something else next round.
Dann · 11/06/2015 at 06:13
Can you use players with the bye for the captain loop hole?
Tyler · 11/06/2015 at 07:15
Yeah as long as they aren't playing
Gold Rush · 11/06/2015 at 08:21
Not saying your wrong, but it does not make sense as the loophole comes into play when the team of the surrogate Captain starts playing, in the case of the byes – the team does not play. Be great if someone could clear this one up.
derek · 11/06/2015 at 12:35
lockout for players with the bye is when the last game of the round starts. So effectively can be used as a loophole
SCaddict · 11/06/2015 at 17:21
YES!
Right up to the start of the last game of the round which this weekend is 4:40pm eastern.
Tyler · 11/06/2015 at 07:19
is it a smart move to vc Goldy, then C mummy? Both pretty consistently pumping out 100+ scores
Harry · 11/06/2015 at 07:23
I would defs put the C on Fyfe, he is playing the Suns
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 13:20
Goldstein won't dominate against Sydney, probably make a tonne bust only just. VC Gray/Selwood or Fyfe and then backap as fyfe or Pendles if you have those players
StartARiot · 11/06/2015 at 08:40
Can we get a petition going to start Head to Head matches in Round 1 (with full squads) and then take a three week break mid season during the Bye Rounds!? Coz honestly, I don’t know of one person who doesn’t hate the Bye rounds passionately. We put all our time, energy (& passion even) into our teams then along comes these ridiculous rounds where it all falls to sh!t. Unless you’ve got 40 hours per week dedicated to painstakingly plotting ur every move to have 18 players (min) on the field over these next three consecutive weeks, the whole concept of Fantasy Footy loses it’s magic substantially. Picking things back up in three weeks with a team that resembles a Bangkok whore an hour after the navy has left town is the greatest pink elephant in the room. The Bye Round head to heads MUST go!
brook · 11/06/2015 at 10:53
i think the byes are good … brings another layer of strategy and planning … i have planned well and am hoping to move up the ranks in the next few weeks (famous last words!). and i like them being in r11-13 rather than 8-10 like last year (was too early)
Gareth · 11/06/2015 at 12:28
I like that they allow those down the ladder in their respective leagues to have a more even chance to win a head to head, although this year it is near impossible to field a team of 18 every week due to so many injuries in the prominent cash-cows. Perhaps the top 16 scorers should be counted as opposed to 18 because it gives too much advantage to those that struggle field a full team, like next week……
tom · 11/06/2015 at 08:45
Hogan to Dahlhaus or Clark to D Smtih?
Danners · 11/06/2015 at 12:06
Sounds good
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 13:19
Dahlhouse, more consistent than Smith. also Clark has a low breakeven and will make more $$ whereas Hogan will lose $$
Youngy · 11/06/2015 at 17:27
Agreed Hogan to Dalhouse
Snake Martin · 11/06/2015 at 08:57
Enright vs Harry Taylor? need to trade our M Johnson this week.
I'm gravitating towards Taylor as he has a better 5 round avg, is cheaper and pumped out a quite 137 last week!
Appreciate your thoughts on this community. Any others around this price range (and playing this week) that you would recommend?
cha-cheers!
Ethan · 11/06/2015 at 10:34
key defender vs rebounding defender. Taylor is a good selection but there will be weeks where he get a 60 by being forced to play a lock down role on a key forward. Enright would be a safer choice
jeremy · 11/06/2015 at 09:07
Does this look like a good post-bye team?
DEF: Shaw, Simpson, Smith, Hodge, Newnes, Saad
MID: Fyfe, Pendles, Sloane, JPK, Selwood, Beams, Griff, Rockliff
RUC: Maric, Nic Nat
FWD: Gray, Martin, Swan, Goddard, Wingard, Higgins
Would appreciate any feedback
Cheers
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 18:13
Not a fan of Griffen and Saad as keepers, unless your planning to upgrading later then thats a good side…
Jackson · 11/06/2015 at 10:41
Dahlhaus Or Buddy as my F5??
Danners · 11/06/2015 at 12:06
Tough one, Dahlhaus, more reliable
r2d2 · 11/06/2015 at 12:38
To be honest, id go buddy looking at his run towards the end of the season
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 13:18
Safe bet is Dahl, more of a risk is buddy. Why not take a risk in supercoach, buddy will crack the tonne more times than dahlhouse for the rest of the year IMO.
Youngy · 11/06/2015 at 17:29
If your tossing up go for the cheaper one. aka (Buddy)
Paul Walnuts · 11/06/2015 at 17:45
I can see having both in my final team, I already have Buddy
Jason · 11/06/2015 at 12:11
Is there any way to triple loop a player? For example, move a mid (blicvas) to ruck, a ruck to fwds and a fwd to the mids. Would open up the use of Blicvas, otherwise he is useless as a DPP. Hoping to be corrected.
BKW · 11/06/2015 at 12:39
Blicvas is fairly useless as a DPP as he is the only ruck/mid in the entire league.
You do have the option of moving him between midfield and ruck through trades, but that’s it!
Gordo D Magnificent · 11/06/2015 at 12:24
Thoughts on:
Ellis-Yolmen –> Kavangh/Glenn (depends on who's named and if sub
Hogan –> Fantasia
*if McKenzie isnt named –> Alex Pearce?
First 2 trades alone will leave with 550k for 3 upgrades next week
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 16:49
Not sure about fantasia, Hogan came up against brown and frost who are good defenders so i think he could score big against st.kilda this week and get close to his break even. Ellis Yolmen has a break even of 70 and i doubt he'll get subbed off again and can give you good scoring output for the other byes but bring in Glenn if named
Ifdmac isn't named Pearce is a good option but only do that trade if you don't have 18 playing.
Youngy · 11/06/2015 at 17:36
I don't like the looks of Fantasia
derek · 11/06/2015 at 12:41
Round 12 is my problem, so there is no advantage of trading in players this week who have a Round 12 bye. IE Boston, Glen, A Pearce, H Goddard etc
I was going to trade out CEY this week, but need a Round 13 player to trade down to. Any suggestions? any Port power rookies (I can use DPP)
derek · 11/06/2015 at 12:44
I have Saad, Ibbotson, Newnes, KK in my defence, all Round 12 bye players. I believe I am going to need to trade at least 2 of them next week to make sure I have enough players on the field.
Looking at Hodge and Smith/Laird to trade in, both will be coming off their round 11 bye.
Out of my 4 defenders above, who should I trade out?
TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/06/2015 at 13:10
I’m going kk and Saad to hold and laird
TRIGGER HAPPY · 11/06/2015 at 13:10
Houli damn auto correct
wayno1313 · 11/06/2015 at 13:10
Ibbotson & Saad
wayno1313 · 11/06/2015 at 13:09
You need to have cash so you can upgrade round 12, round 13 rookies to Round 11 rookies after the bye. There aren't many rookies that don't have the round 12 bye so you may need to look at trading at least one round 12 rookie in such as Boston so you can then upgrade other rookies to round 11 premos.
derek · 11/06/2015 at 15:18
I think your are right Wayno. I may have to trade a Round 12 rookie in just to make the cash ie: CEY to Boston
then I can trade a Round 12 rookie to a premium, Miller to Sloane
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 18:07
Derek have you considered Tom Clurey from port as a downgrade, as he is on the bubble has scored 52 & 42 which is nothing much but he will average 65 this season.
Granted he is a little pricey but he still has a negative B/E.and the way defenders are scoring, or lack of scoring it could be a wise downgrade. Defenders are far to inconsistent this year.
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 18:08
Sorry 54 & 42
Mark · 11/06/2015 at 13:24
Hey community i got 17 players playing and i dont need to trade anyone but should i trade billy stretch to boston so i got 18 playing becuase i dont think stretch will make that much money. I got 16 trades left.
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 16:44
That's not a bad trade. If you're going for a good overall ranking yes. If your opponent this week looks tough and boston could help yes. If you don't think stretch will get another game then it's probably worth it as well because boston is getting midfield time and has good job security.
Mark · 11/06/2015 at 18:38
Im ranked 1000 and my league is a public league they all dont even reach 1000
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 19:06
Mark how many trades left mate? if your ranked 1000 overall your doing AWESOME and you want to DEFIANTLY have a minimum of 18 players on field preferably more due to your ranking..
Mark · 11/06/2015 at 19:42
I have 16 left but stretch has been named… Do i take the risk or stick boston
Ryan · 11/06/2015 at 13:49
My trades this week depend on who I'm bringing in next week.
So next week should I bring in Laird or Hodge?
derek · 11/06/2015 at 15:15
I'm not convinced on laird yet.
Hodge is a genuine gun Midfielder with DPP eligibility (not many this year), but he does play for my beloved Hawks, who share the SC points around a lot and sit their guns on the bench for the last quarter once a game is in the bag.
I'll be getting him in after his bye
Ethan · 11/06/2015 at 20:24
50/50 on either, Hodge doesnt seem to be that big scorer vs solid teams with his 2 100's coming from an undermanned bulldogs and the saints. Either way, he will average over 90.
Laird i like the look of, playing that brodie smith rebounding half back role. However when they get smashed,laird may score poorly
John · 11/06/2015 at 13:53
Amon, Kavanagh or Glenn?
wise old man · 11/06/2015 at 14:47
Glenn if named
Liam · 11/06/2015 at 14:51
Boston. But out of them i would go amon unless glenn is named
Bobby Beans · 11/06/2015 at 17:04
Kavanagh or Boston…Glenn still not playing, Amon in doubt.
Youngy · 11/06/2015 at 17:30
Glenn if he is named, otherwise Amon
Although it also depends on your bye structures.
Marco_Polo94 · 11/06/2015 at 14:31
First time I've really got involved with this community and this season I have reaped the rewards from the wisdom of this page and everyone involved. Sitting in the top 1% and I have all of you to thank for it! Bye rounds are quite confusing for me, and probably a lot of other people. When I created my trading plan all those weeks ago I ensured i would have at least 20 on field players for each week, and initially this involved downgrading 3 round 11 rookies. While I followed my trading plan to the best of my ability, obviously circumstances changed and I have adapted along the way.
This brings me to my confusion. Why is it so bad to bring in a premium player (i.e. Selwood)? Barring any late outs/injuries/surprises I have 21 on field players each week of the byes. Because I lose a fair chunk of premos in R12, and also because I would rather Selwood in my final team than a R11 Premo (i.e. Lewis), I am trading Selwood in for Rockliff. Yes this is a donut in R13, however if i don't bring in Selwood it basically means I am playing Amon or McKenzie or Boston on field, resulting in far lower points for the week (you'd assume). By R13 with my heavy trading the donut to Selwood that round seems like a lower cost (points wise) than it would be if I waited another few weeks. Additionally Selwood appears to have bottomed out in price.
So it is my opinion that there is no rule/guideline to follow with bye trading. Depending on your structures it will either make sense to trade in a premo, or not to trade in a premo this week. Think about who you want in your final team, think about how many premiums you have playing each week, think about how you can gain the maximum points possible for your team that week, and think about the cash-money.
Cheers Community and GOOD LUCK! #gopies
derek · 11/06/2015 at 15:12
perfect logic. I brought in Selwood for Rocky last week. One of the reasons was I knew he had a round 13 bye, and my planning showed that was ok. I could easily have brought in Buddy or Parker instead, but my bye planning didn't allow that.
Other years I wouldn't have worried about that as much and been a lot like wayneo and just traded away and not cared about the byes.
I think this could be your break-out year!
Gareth · 11/06/2015 at 16:38
I am forgetting about the bye weeks (I will probably lose one of the head to heads anyway) and concentrating on the long-term structure of my team, hence trading out TBC this week and going in with 17 players. Ultimately, I am aiming for the best team I can have by the end of the year, rather than overtly worrying about bye weeks. Short-term pain might be long-term gain.
Marco_Polo94 · 11/06/2015 at 17:04
Cheers Derek! Done super coach for a while but only focused on league wins. Going for overall ranking is a lot harder and a lot more fun I've found. So many R12 premiums I'd love to grab but I am in the same park as you, structures don't allow it.
derek · 11/06/2015 at 17:57
Same here Marco. Previous years I've been playing for League wins. This year I did a lot of pre-season, did my planning and tried to stick to it. I'm having a breakout year as well, currently ranked 291 (high of 116 two weeks ago). Other years I would be ranked 10,000 at best.
Marco_Polo94 · 11/06/2015 at 18:15
You beauty you're killing it! Hope you thrive through the bye rounds and jump back up. You must be celebrating with Clokey finally rewarding your resolve ahaha
tom · 11/06/2015 at 15:50
if Mckenzie plays this week how much do you think his price will go up?
SCaddict · 11/06/2015 at 15:57
SC Gold is predicting that he will increase $20K if he scores his projected 57 this week (currently has a BE of +12). It should be somewhere in that ball park if he plays a full game as expected.
Tulendeena · 11/06/2015 at 16:37
McKenzie to Boston worth it?
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 16:42
Probably not because you'll have to use another trade if you want to get the money from boston. They'll probably score similarly and dmac has another 100k at least to make so i'd keep him until another rookie comes along.
Harry · 11/06/2015 at 17:07
I would trade CEY, Miller, Cripps, or Hogan/Clark if you have swingsets before McKenzie
Youngy · 11/06/2015 at 17:34
Depends if he will play this week or not.
I may be trading him because I carn't get hit with a donut. If he doesn't play
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 17:55
Youngy Obviously I have no idea what rookies you currently have, however if you have CEY, McIntosh or Krakouer then trade them out before trading out McKenzie mate.
Jay · 11/06/2015 at 17:43
Please community
Help convince me which one is better out of these three
Wines, selwood or armitage
Need HELP
derek · 11/06/2015 at 17:54
There are currently 5 Ultra premiums in the AFL. Gaz, Fyfe, Pendlebury, Selwood & Zac Dawson.
these blokes (except maybe Zac) have proven they are top shelf, ultra premium over a few years now. They might have their off days or even a few bad weeks, but they are proven match winners and must have SC players.
below them there are many premiums, and some of them are starting to show that they might be considered Ultra premium one day. Sloane, Dangerfield, Rocky, Beams etc. but in my opinion they are not at Selwood's level yet.
Jay · 11/06/2015 at 18:04
Hahahhaa Zac Dawson for brownlow
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 18:15
Very humorous Derek. I agree with those 4 and Danger, rocky and beama aren't far off selwood at least this year and we'll see what Sloan has after a couple more games back from injury
DUSTMARTINLUVOFMYLYF · 11/06/2015 at 19:16
Raph Clarke, Josh Bootsma
markso · 12/06/2015 at 12:40
The notion of Selwood as an ultra premium may have been the case in years past. Using his average of last year of 121 as a benchmark he will need to score at an average of 140 to reach that level. Can think of only one player this year capable of that. Setting the bar lower and considering him a M7/M8 he might represent good value.
Tyler · 11/06/2015 at 18:09
I reckon selwood is the biggest bargain right now, as he's a proven scorer and a very good scorer at that, while wines is a gun he probably can't outscore selwood from here. Armitage is a good POD as well but has a round 12 bye, and he's expensive
Jay · 11/06/2015 at 18:18
Do you guys think selwood will get tagged by Vince next week and what score do you think he'll achieve this week and the next??
Thinking of sidebottom after his bye thoughts?
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 18:28
Selwood has performed well against port over his last 5 and would expect 100-120 and if vince tags him he can still get a tonne if he's over the hand niggle that seemed to decrease his output.
Sidebottom has been a moster in end of season games in the past and his 63 odd on the weekend will bring him down to 550k possibly lower so pounce when his break even gets below 100
derek · 11/06/2015 at 18:26
TBC dropped. Brooksby out as well.
Mac · 11/06/2015 at 18:29
Pearce, Goddard and Edwards all in their respective squads.
Pearce looks like a good downgrade option this week. I for one will be brining Pearce and Goddard in this week. I know Goddard may be a late out but its for cash generation and for a loophole, he will play soon enough. Edwards may be a good downgrade target after his bye for someone like Lever. TBC dropped, no big deal, just 50 points you won't be getting. At least he won't lose anymore money playing 2's!
Tyler · 11/06/2015 at 18:34
Looking forward to seeing how Malceski will play, could be a very nice (and cheap) upgrade
Also amon out with a calf injury
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 18:58
Definitely agree Tyler, he has a massive breakeven and him and brodie smith at 300-400k is delicious
Brooke Richards · 11/06/2015 at 18:40
When will Glenn be back 🙁
SCaddict · 11/06/2015 at 18:54
Bennell and May are due back straight after the bye and Gaz, Thompson and Martin are expected back soon too so his window is rapidly closing.
Reckon those with him will have to consider him a triple donut at least for the duration of the byes.
Frank · 11/06/2015 at 18:41
No Amon or Glenn…. need a MID or a FWD downgrade – who?
Luke · 11/06/2015 at 18:44
andrew boston from gold coast?
Luke · 11/06/2015 at 18:44
hamling, clurey, or goddard (named on extended bench) in this week?
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 18:59
Hamling has better Job security than Goddard for mine. if goddard is named on ground you could bring him in and then get Hamling next week if you need
SCaddict · 11/06/2015 at 19:24
I wouldn't touch Clurey. Trengove will very likely push him out of the team in Rd12 unless he has an absolute blinder against the Cats tomorrow night. Ryder will also soon take up another tall spot too.
Alex Pearce should have the superior JS at least in the short to medium term.
Marco_Polo94 · 11/06/2015 at 18:49
Vandy, Newton, Johnson, Brooksby, and Glenn out but no one bats an eye…. Because it's all, apart of the plan…. But one, little Amon is dropped…. AND EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS!
Jambo · 11/06/2015 at 19:24
Someone hit the panic button.
Ethan · 11/06/2015 at 20:28
we already knew vandy and johnson were going to be out
Newton was gone for most people about 3 weeks ago.
Brooksby was just in the side to fill the numbers and we knew both him and glenn will get squeezed out eventually.
Marco_Polo94 · 11/06/2015 at 20:44
Hahaha that's what i mean. Just quoting Dark Knight mate
Tophawk · 11/06/2015 at 18:58
Hi community,
Does anyone know how long Vandenberg will be out for with his hamstring injury? Thinking of upgrading him to Selwood this week.
Cheers
derek · 11/06/2015 at 19:01
I read 3 weeks
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 19:03
Absolutely go BANG and bring in Selwood, doubt he'll be any cheaper than this for the rest of the season and Vberg has a 105 breakeven so will leak cash.
Tophawk · 11/06/2015 at 19:06
Derek reckons 3 weeks. That means he will be out until after his bye. That is way to long. He has done his job. Selwood's price is just hit rock bottom so its BANG!
Vandenberg out and Selwood in. Very pleased with that trade.
Cheers
baggy pants · 11/06/2015 at 20:43
Melbourne injury report says 3 to 4 weeks
Northernsou · 11/06/2015 at 19:15
Apparently Salem injured his other hammy so likely to be missing a few more weeks.
Jambo · 11/06/2015 at 19:19
I've finally put Griffen out of his misery and traded him for David Mundy (559,600k is cheap for his scoring). Last year, I waited on Swanny to return to his best but never did. Not doing that again. I also traded out Rocky for Joel Selwood and downgraded Kamdyn McIntosh for Boston.
Ethan · 11/06/2015 at 20:29
wouldnt it be smarter to get him in during griffins bye. Your going to suffer a zero next round while griffin still has this week and next week to score points.
But ignore if your round 12 structure is fine
Jambo · 12/06/2015 at 12:24
True that. I've changed since as I have too many round 12 bye players if I traded in Mundy.
xavier · 11/06/2015 at 19:22
love the work mate
what are your thoughts on kamdyn down to alex pearce should give me 800K for the next to weeks
4 premo backline 6 mid 2 ruck 4 fwd
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 19:28
If you have someone else to downgrade i'd leave Kamdyn for another game or two because his breakeven is only 29 but if you want to go bang now i completely understand
derek · 11/06/2015 at 19:47
that's a lot of cash to have not doing anything with!
Barney · 11/06/2015 at 19:26
What’s your thoughts guys. Forgetting about the byes who should i trade in Franklin or tom macdonald this week?????
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 19:30
Franklin hands down. Always finishes the year strong and Macdonald looks to be slowing down with 85, 67 and 90 in his past 3. I think Hodge, Houli and potentially Brodie Smith are way better options
Derek · 11/06/2015 at 21:17
Buddy. Tom has peaked and won’t score as well as he has
tom · 11/06/2015 at 19:30
i can get any ruckman for TBC who should i get ?
already got goldstein
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 19:36
It's really tough between Maric, Jacobs, Mummy and Martin.
I personally like Jacobs for 3 reasons.
1. Four tonnes out of his last 5 games and they've been pretty big ones
2. Led league in hitouts to adv last year and they're worth 5 points up from 3 last year and had some inconsistency early on but shouldn't trouble him for the rest of the year. Also was the premier ruckman last year averaging 115
3. Cheapest
Stickman · 11/06/2015 at 19:45
I'd have a look at Sandilands, with Zac Clarke getting dropped he will get more ruck time and that is where he thrives. Also under 500k, so gives you room for other upgrades later.
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 19:55
Nice POD. Consistent tonnes without Clarke for sure but Freo and their resting could bite you at the end of the year
Stickman · 11/06/2015 at 19:39
Thinking the triple downgrade this week with
Adcock-Robinson, Ellis-Yolmen-Boston and Miller to Hamling, too make sure I can make up 18 on field in round 12.
Thoughts community?
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 19:57
I see no problems there. Will give you a nice war chest as well
Ethan · 11/06/2015 at 20:30
Job security with robinson isnt 100% there, they still have the likes of bird, mcglynn and heeney to come back in.
Stickman · 11/06/2015 at 23:03
Thanks for the feedback who would you see as a rookie with better JS to bring in this week?
Paul Walnuts · 11/06/2015 at 19:41
Is J.Ziebell good for a F5 or 6 to hold until the end ?
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 19:58
I'd look at other options, i love him as a player but his kicking efficiency is poor because he has 3 players tackling every time he touches the pill. Would look at the top supercoach forwards currently who average 100+ and pick one of them
SCaddict · 11/06/2015 at 20:12
Has played every game this season and if you take out the 4 when he copped that knock early in Rd3 he's averaging 98.4 per round which is a fraction more than Buddy so reckon he's worth considering for F6 for the money.
Shayne · 11/06/2015 at 19:52
who would be a better downgrade target Pearce or Kavanagh
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 19:59
Kavanagh for better scores. Pearce for better Job security. If you can bring in Pearce this week and see how Kav goes in his second game that would be ideal
Wise old man · 11/06/2015 at 20:06
Is this a good post bye team?
Def: Shaw, Gibson, Burgoyne, Picken, Simpson, Brodie Smith
Mid: Fyfe, Pendlebury, Shiel, Neale, Selwood, Lewis, Sloane, JPK
Ruck: Goldstein, Maric
Fwd: Martin, Gray, Swan, Franklin, Titch, Bontempelli
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 20:16
Absolutely. Then you can look at chopping players with poor form but good job, team looks great!
Riley · 11/06/2015 at 20:08
Should Touk Miller be on the chopping block? I have plenty of warm bodies but miller losing money!
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 20:19
Absolutely chop him, Gold Coast have mids coming back from injury soon and he wont get much time in the guts.
Jai · 11/06/2015 at 20:10
Gday community, great banter on here – love it. Quick question about the bye scoring:
If I put the C on Brooksby (as he is now not playing), the E on Mumford on the bench and the VC on Gray, will Mumfords score as an emergency work if he is not on the field?
Thanks in advance legends
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 20:13
Just play Mummy on the field and if you want gray's VC score put the C on anyone that has the bye on field after the port match
Jai · 11/06/2015 at 20:15
You beauty – cheers mate.
So to confirm, the bye round players scores don't lock after the start of the first game? Rather, they lock after the start of the last game?
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 20:17
Absolutely! Supercoach being kind to us for once and making the Captain loophole nice and easy
Jai · 11/06/2015 at 21:00
legend. thanks for that
Mac · 11/06/2015 at 20:17
Anyone worried about how many games Boston will get since Ablett, Bennel and Swallow will be coming back shortly after the bye?
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 20:22
I am for sure, just hoping he's done enough to stay in the best 21 and not get the sub vest or dropped. Kavanagh is the only other decent option but his job security is pretty average as well
Derek · 11/06/2015 at 21:11
I’m not getting him. Trap
Tophawk · 11/06/2015 at 20:22
Hi community,
At last, Hugh Goddard named for the Saints. What will be the most likely scenario for him on Sunday?
1- Starter.
2- Sub.
3- Emergency.
I want to downgrade the SUPA spud TBC (if you can call that a downgrade) to Goddard to free up some cash for next week's trades.
Any thoughts appreciated.
Cheers
Any thoughts?
Stickman · 11/06/2015 at 23:38
I honestly see him as being named as an emergency. But with Gilbert's injury keeping him out for a long time they won't risk him underdone and this could give Goddard the call up.
Dale · 11/06/2015 at 20:26
Cheers Dex
GARY · 11/06/2015 at 20:26
who do i get rid of miller, rich or ellis-yolmen
Gryffindor · 11/06/2015 at 20:29
Not CEY, rich breakeven 120, Miller 96. I think Rich will loose less money as gold coast have injured players coming back and Miller won't get any midfield time and could potentially be a sub
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 22:51
Get rid of Rich he served his purpose. I agree with Gryffindor regarding CEY however I disagree about Miller being the SUB any time soon, as he has played ALL 10 games so far prior to ALL the injuries occurring so they wont change that in a hurry, as they have 15 of there top players out so im sure he will be in there best 22 for a while.
matt · 11/06/2015 at 20:42
Hello community I am good mates with hugh goddard + family and he has talked to the coach, had several meetings and hes going to get a game this week. They are thinking of resting farron for a week.
Get Hugh in!!! thanks guys
Mac · 11/06/2015 at 20:45
Wow, great insight! Much appreciated!
Derek · 11/06/2015 at 21:10
Had him from start
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 22:40
Great insight matt.
However there are quite a few rookies like Boston, Pearce, Kavanagh & Robinson. I think it's better to watch him play first and see if he continues to line up week after week. I really liked Kavanagh's debut but he isn't cheap.
Jack · 12/06/2015 at 17:49
K
baggy pants · 11/06/2015 at 20:50
Cant work out why people are trading out kmac still has a low breakeven and given all the top players missing in round 12 every warm body will be handy
Derek · 11/06/2015 at 21:09
Agree
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 22:33
He won't generate a ton of cash, he is predicted to reach around $350k by round 16 and if he has one shocking game then he wont make much at all.
It's all about what players you have and for those like myself who dont have the full 18 players playing its allot better to trade a player who isn't playing as opposed to someone who is and bring in rookies while there available.
Also it's all about making cash in the first BYE round in order to bring in the premium players you desire in rounds 12 & 13
hedski · 11/06/2015 at 21:00
What time podcast community?
BigDropKick · 11/06/2015 at 21:14
Any chance of Lavarde to get a game this week?
Wise old man · 11/06/2015 at 21:20
He has been named emergency
Pieman74 · 11/06/2015 at 21:33
Great work Dex. I am really in need of help this week. Only 13 players on the field this week, 16 next week and 24 in the last week of the bye rounds. 16 trades left. Desparately need to win in both leagues to stay in touch with the finals.
Do I not trade this week and just take a massive dive and concentrate on trying to win the other two weeks or should I trade and hope for a miracle. If I trade, I am thinking TBC to Nic Nat (via Cox DPP), TBC to Franklin or Kennedy, Rich to Boston or Mc Intosh to Pearce. HELP!!!
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 22:19
if u only have 13 on field players this week then it's highly likely you wont win the league games even if you traded all three with 16 only playing.
What you must consider is do you currently have enough cash to trade UP next week. I think trading out RICH to BOSTON is a must as that trade alone will get you $300k
I personally am bringing in BOSTON, PEARCE & either KAVANAGH or ROBINSON to free me the cash for round 12 & 13 – In the first bye round I personally think it's all about getting all the cash you need, to allow you too trade UP in round 12 & 13
Good luck mate.
Pieman74 · 11/06/2015 at 23:02
Thanks Dean for your advice. I was thinking about bringing in Boston and even Pearce to generate cash but that was before TBC was dropped. I was thinking about Nic Nat to replace TBC so that I will have two rucks during the bye rounds. But I also am tempted to get either Selwood or buddy in this week because they are so cheap.
Dean · 11/06/2015 at 22:01
I have been trying to figure out what is my best BYE round strategy for ages. I strongly believe if you have playing players then keep them, unless you have a 20+ on field players each round then I can understand cutting a loss on someone like Hogan or someone similar. The more players you have on the ground playing during these bye rounds is CRUCIAL.
I never thought about trading out Rockliff to Boston until now which helps me greatly. My trades will more then likely be as follows.
R11
HEENEY to KAVANAGH
McINTOSH to PEARCE
ROCKLIFF to BOSTON
R12
CLARK to DAHLHAUS
MILLER to GUNSTON via KRAKOUER
SAAD to HOULI
R13
LUMUMBA to SMITH
HOGAN to GODDARD
CEY to SLOANE
My only query is whether to go KAVANAGH or ROBINSON I loved the dabut of KAV but his not cheap, my concern with ROBINSON is that he will most likely be the SUB…g
Dan · 12/06/2015 at 02:15
Im good this week but as disaster looms next week I had to use trades for r12 this week, thus I have traded in Dahlhaus for Salem and should with luck get 18 on the park next week.
Doc2Drej · 12/06/2015 at 19:43
Only will have scores from 17 players this week but I am not trading this week. There will be time to downgrade later when there are better options available and I am willing to take some short term pain for long term gain. Going into next round with 20 trades but only 8k in the bank
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