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Patch’s Panic Room – Round 8

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Patch - Supercoach Panic Room Master

Ellis-Yolmen, miss. Heeney, gawn. Saad. Miss. Hogan. Late out. Cripps. Late out. Clark. 53. Lever 38. vandenBerg. 37. McKenzie. 31. Salem. 16. LONIE. JACK LONE. THREE. THREE WHOLE POINTS.

I spent Sunday night in the foetal position, weeping softly into my pillow.

But you know the carnage. You lived it. We all lived it. We’re all in this together, community. Let’s try and survive it.


THE NEWS

There is a lot of good news this week; but as always we do not escape unscathed.

The good news is Cam Ellis-Yolman, Adam Saad, Patrick Cripps Jesse Hogan, Jordan Lewis, Ollie Wines, Josh Kelly, Kade Simpson and The Sidebum are all BACK. This will give a lot of teams a lot of relief this week, after a few weeks of unabated carnage.

In bad news, Christian Salem will miss 2-3 weeks with a hamstring twinge that saw him subbed out for a measly 16 points. Josh Glenn from the Suns has also not been named, while Dom Sheed from West Coast will miss a week or two with a fractured hand. With a breakeven of 32 he still has cash to make, but it’d be within reason to give him the chop.

Ryan Griffin will play for GWS this week, which is bad news for those of us with him. He’s been rotating good scores with bad, but as Lek said this week in his video, he’s not the same player he was. He will lose cash over the next few weeks with his 116 BE. Consider trading if you can.

All the gents concussed on the weekend will miss, with Jack Lonie, Nick Riewoldt and Brodie Smith to all miss. Lonie can go, and doubts surround Riewoldt’s return, but you’d have to hold Smith – everyone will have him in a few weeks and he’s lost too much cash to ditch now.

Matthew Jaensch will miss the rest of the season after doing his knee. While bad news for those with him and are now forced to trade him, it opens a spot for popular rookie Jake Lever, who is on the bubble with a breakeven of -38.

North Melbourne captain Andrew Swallow has been rested this week, due to be back in a week or two.

Mitch Duncan will miss three months with a broken foot. While very, very few teams have him, he has been integral to the Geelong midfield and will leave a hole. This hole could be filled by a huge number of players rotated through there; Jake Kelly, Andrew Mackie coming back, or Stevie J could float through the middle. It could be a young player like Corey Gregson, Stevie Motlop or others. Watch this space.

If I’ve missed anyone, let us know. I’ve struggled to get out of the foetal position this week and haven’t had as much time as I’d like to peruse the news.


THE PATCH UP

The Patch-Up has been shut down this week as the pun is well passed its use-by date and should be ashamed of itself. However, the weekly wisdoms, from Barron von Crow’s brilliant (as always) in his scouting report to the Dex Files on Jack Zeibell, to Lek’s video to the podcasts, will have you covered.


TRADING PLACES

Eddie Murphys

-67 – Josh Glenn*
-38 – Jake Lever
-28 – Harry Schade
-16 – Nathan Krakouer
-13 – Dan McKenzie
31 – Matt Priddis

*not playing this week

Dan Aykroyds

184 – Scott Pendlebury
163 – Rory Sloane
155 – David Mundy
152 – Dan Hannebury


THE ROOKIE RUMBLE

Let’s get straight into it.

Defence

Saad slots straight back into the #1 spot, while Lever should fill the role of Jaensch. Kelly looks to be the sub, while McKenzie has scared me off after last week’s 30-odd.

Saad
Oxley
Lever
McIntoh
McKenzie
Brown

Midfield

You’ve got to look at Cripps as the only promising player in a poor Carlton side. Ellis-Yolman back is lovely, while Miller has been consistent.

Cripps
Ellis-Yolman
Miller
Saad
Krakouer
vandenBerg
Newton
McKenzie

RU- actually, nevermind.

Forwards

Tippett
Clark
Krakouer
Hogan
Andrews
Dale


That’s it from me community. Under the pump this week so I’ve done the essentials and had to cut down on the flair, but I should be back in full swing next week, with a revived patch-up and more extensive look ahead to the byes.

I’ll do my best try and flit around in the comments when I can, community. But until next week, good luck, and may the Supercoach gods have mercy on us all.


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chris

Jock, where would brett goodes slip in relative to the othr defensive rookies?

Tyler

I would say he would be about on-par with Lever

baggyizzle

I wouldn't be trading him in or out at this stage.

Tylo

Be wary of the vest

Jarrod

Thoughts on Vandenberg and Salem to Lever and Treloar or Priddis? Which one of Priddis and Treloar?

Wattsieesq

I started with Priddis and although he started slow, his production in the last 3 weeks has been trouser swelling. He's up around his average from last year, but still under the price paid for him at the start of the year. Treloar is up and down and not proven like Priddis.

Tyler

Good trades if you have the cash. And Priddis

wombat

Thatta boy….chase last weeks points!!

jason

who to get rid of… oxley or mcintosh?

Someeone Else

IMO Oxley, his BE is higher and with Lever on the bubble and with good JS its time to cut him. McIntosh could be the upgrade target for Smith when he returns..

jason

yeah its a tough one, because i am ranked 300th atm..
so wondering weather mcintosh can score similarly to oxley for a couple of rounds..

mattforrest8

no, go mcintosh. my philosophy is get rid of the players that are going to score lower. This week for me it was a question of either Lumumba or Rich out, and I chose Lumumba as Rich is more likely to score a ton. Easy way to decide who to trade this way, unless you have a player with a huge breakeven against a player with a negative. however, both these players have a realistic chance of making their breakevens this week.

Tyler

Ox is at the top of his price cycle while Kmac still has a week or so of going up. If you have to play one of them though get rid of Kmac and keep Oxley for now

jason

atm, i'm leading towards ox. i think that both him and mcintosh will score similarly from now (i hope).. gonna run the risk for this week anyway and play goodes on the ground, then next week upgrade to brodie smith

Ryan

Is T.Mithcell a top 6 forward?
whats everyones thought on his output from here on??

baggyizzle

I feel that Tom Mitchell was worth the risk last week. 460k is too much of a risk on him – Youve missed the boat.

I got him in and feel that if he doesn't hold his spot I at least would make a quick 100k to upgrade to a Roughie

Kev

JS will always hang over him so it depends if you want to take the punt or not. 460k for his current output is a bargain though. Looking ahead, Swans have a great draw over the next 2 months, playing hawks twice and port as the only teams of note

Holty

I think most will agree he is capaple of finishing top 6. Problem is, and as Lek pointed out, will he be in Sydneys best 22 by seasons end? I grabbed him last week and was happy but that is the only concern for him.

Glenn

Any Adelaide watchers, does Lever play pure Key Position? or does he work off his opponent a bit?

Tyler

I think he is playing as the 3rd tall in defence, and hopefully he doesn't play on Jeremy Cameron or Cam McCarthy too much.

lol

Brown to Docherty
V-Berg to Lever

or

Vberg to Lever
Hogan to Rocky?

if I do the first one I will have to field either brown or Lever for a week

Crowmagnon

The second one.

tomp

do we think Bailey Dale has good job security? starting on field this week

my trades depend a heap on whether or not I downgrade next week.

Hally

Thinking of bringing in Dayne Beams instead of Rockliff this week, thoughts?

Redgumwon

I like it I'm thinking of bring in both

DonkeyCock

crazy, get rocky unless he has a stinker this week… then wait.
you've missed beams already, there's some real value just sitting around the mid 450k's at the moment.
round 10 onwards the big boys come out to play!

Wattsieesq

Question for the community. I'm punting Oxley. Do I go down to Lever or up to Hiberrd? I'm going for overall rank.

Kev

If you're chasing overall Watts chase the points and go Hibbo

JMG

Hibberd been ordinary but as I’ve owned him from start hoping he comes good. Have u got TMac, I’d get him if not

Barney

Hi Patch. What’s your thoughts on Stevie J this week????

wombat

What’s your thoughts on pointless articles?

Barney

Had a bad Wombat???

Hungry Hawk

You're an asset Wombat. What do you actually positively contribute to this community?

Mister_Spock

Thinking about him too. Will get his break even this week, but will struggle to crack the ton against Carlton too – only done it once in his career.

Joe

What’s everyone’s thoughts on yeo and McGovern??

Traderlyf

i got yeo in this week, his named in the guts as well 😀

Beady Eye

Not worried the return of Selwood will affect his role?

Girdle

I’m just posting so American Magpie can shout his critique at me.

Timmy

Ha Ha

AMERICANMAGPIE1

LOL pathetic….thought Jock site was cool …….guess not??? Just a bunch of thugs!!!! Just opinion.

Budstar

^^^ are you serious, it just so happens your the most opinionated on here!! So many of your comments on here are ridiculous, telling people 'are you high' which is unwarranted and uncalled for. Your my nomination for 'tool of the week' this week. Just an opinion

Girdle

Magpie, there’s a difference between constructive criticism of others’ selections and just plain mockery. We don’t all share your opinion on every player. How boring would it be if we all had the same team? Just tone it down a touch when giving advice. Thanks Champ

baggyizzle

I can't get into the Rockliff Hype

Don't get me wrong, I am looking to get him in the next couple of weeks but everyone has this assumption that he is a must this week.

Hasn't broken a ton yet (i know he's been injured and knocked out cold) BE of 79, I think he will average low 100's.

Plenty of other mids that i'd suggest getting in this week over him. Or improve a different line, Rookie mids are doing great guns

Tyler

Many people agree with you. But you simply can't ignore the fact he was over 700k at the start of the year. I will be holding off till next week at least, just because I think my rookies can still outscore him this week and I don't see any point to having him on the bench

Kev

Can see both sides of the coin here.

Think back to the start of the year and most coaches would have ether had him in their initial team or had a plan to bring him in after a price drop. He's not at 100% fitness yet but has bottomed out in price (maybe dropping another 10-15k). Can grab him for VBerg this week who is gonna bleed cash while that 37 stays in his system, happy to hold Rocky for now and accept a few sub 100 scores and if the SC Gods are kind, he'll get back to pumping out the Ablett-esque scores after the byes

Jarryd

I'm in the same boat he hasn't proved yet that he can crack the ton this year especially with the talent that is in that midfield now. If he comes out and hits 120 this week he only goes up 10k and I can handle that knowing that his output is still at the premium level

SCaddict

Yes Parker is the bigger priority for me this week.

But if Rocky bangs out a 120 plus this weekend I'll be counting down the seconds until Supercoach reopens for business on Sunday night ha ha.

Mathew

Love this article.

Where does Andrews rate in defense since he is a defender not a forward in SC?

Andy

How is everyones trade numbers going ? I have 19 left after bringing in T.Mac and Rocky this week

Mac

Not sold on Lever. Thoughts on trading in Dale a week early?

Mathew

Brave move considering if he gets dropped it will hurt you. Always be careful when pulling this type of move.

Ben

After trading Glenn in a week early, just don't do it. Unless its a high profile rookie, maybe, but for a player i've never heard off in Dale before this week, way to risky.

Jimbo

Good call Ben. The Community would be wise in going back to NAB challenge and look to which rookies played well and also have a look back over Barron Von Crows preseason rookie watch articles.

Girdle

Are the rookie articles limited only to pre-season?

Liam

Need your help community.
Rocky or docherty???
Thinking of bringing in Rocky after his bye.
Cheers.

Ben

Rocky > Docherty

wombat

Boring!

WombatsFC

Dude get a new name or a new attitude.

Mac

Dom Tyson out of Melbourne Squad, does this mean we should hold Vandenberg becuase he will see more midfield time?

Tyler

He may get more midfield time, but until that 37 gets outta his price cycle, he won't make much and tyson will be back soon anyway. Should be the first player out of your team this week

r2d2

Current mid ….. Fyfe Pendles Lewis danger Parker Griffen Cripps CEY (vandenberg Krak lambert ) just vandenberg out for lever for me (via Mckenzie or saad )…… Could bring in another premo def but want to conserve trades … But not sure ! Thoughts ?

Jonesy

Start Oxley or Saad on field?

Tyler

Saad

r2d2

Like look of Amon too …. But high sub risk ,, kid can play , could get him early ….ballsy but very dangerous

Tyler

Not ballsy. Silly more like it at the moment. Good chance to be dropped in the next few weeks and even if he isn't he will probably still get subbed

Tom

Looking at two trades this week!

Lumumba —> Bob Murphy
Vandy —> Rocky

Only 19 Trades left is a worry tho, I'm playing for league wins and this week i'm up against the top of the table!

Cheers Tom

Shayne

If i was to trade out 1 of Lumumba or Oxley for lever who should it be?

Ben

I wouldn't trade either for Lever

Dan

Who should start on my field, Saad or Ellis-Yolmen?

Francis

You can't play both? I would go Ellis-Yolmen

Riley

Anyone worth a look at in defence? Trading out lumumba this week!

jason

wait a couple of weeks for brodie smith..

jason

or luke hodge next week

Jimbo

any validity in keeping Judd. I initially picked him as bloke I thought could average 105 and get me to the byes or just beyond and then upgrade him to a solid fallen premo. Is Judd to a Rocky to sideways?

JMG

I’d rather up a rookie to Rocky and worry about Judd later. I’ve got Griffen like many others who us crap but holding until byes and hoping he pump out a reasonable score til then (please SC Gods please!!)

SCaddict

Hard to see Juddy in most teams best 8 mids so if he's your optimal trade bait to bring in Rocky right now I wouldn't hesitate myself.

Like Griffen it just hasn't worked out as many hoped so it's probably healthiest to end the relationship sooner rather than later and just move on to a proven elite.

Saying all that Juddy does have a very gettable BE of 77 tonight so if you have other issues to deal with this round you could put that move on the back burner for a week or two.

jarryd

who is the most necessary premium to get in this week

Francis

Buddy

SCaddict

Parker or Rocky.

If you have TBC then he could be worth upgrading this week as there's a good selection of ruck premos at bargain prices right now.

JMG

Thanks for the article Patch I enjoy reading each week. Well done last week for giving everyone the heads up of Cripps and Hogan late outs, you did this before many other websites!
My query is I can emergency loophole Clark and Cripps tonight but should I bother?

JMG

Or just put em straight on ground. Choosing 2 out of Cripps, CEY or Miller on ground in mids, Clark v Bellchambers for fwd

Tyler

If you can loophole them, go for it. If you do it properly it is always worth it

Mister_Spock

After some last minute advice Community.

I've got the option of trading out either Ryan Griffen for either T Mitchell, Kieren Jack OR Rory Sloane to Adam Treloar.

Both will be essentially sideways trades and I would really like to hold on to Sloane, but he's still looking like being out for at least 3 more weeks. Every man and his dog either has or will be getting in Titch, so thinking Jack and Treloar are PODs, but also pretty risky…

tomp

is it dumb to hold onto Vandenberg?

Juzzy

Not dumb at all. I will probably trade him this round but if I had a better option I would keep him.
He has the round 13 bye and I am getting flashbacks to Dom Tyson last year…
Maybe I will keep him ….

Poloko48

Juzzy you're flashbacks are very accurate – a nice 131 from VDB, unfortunately traded him out last week for Treloar, I guess time will tell but possibly not my best move….

Sam

If we were to upgrade oxaly. Who should we upgrade to? It can be anyone
Thoughts

Liam

Vandenberg out Lever in community? via Saad swing from def to mid

John_Q_Smith

I like it if you don't have the coin to upgrade Vanders instead. He needs to go this week and Lever has pretty decent job security although he might not have the scoring potential of some of the gun rookies so far this year.

Liam

Only 96k so not enough cash to upgrade, however i could go B.Smith to lever then upgrade vandenberg?

John_Q_Smith

I think you have to hold onto Smith as everyone will have him after his round 11 bye and you are locking in a massive loss trading him out now. I think going Vanders to Lever this week is the safe bet with a mind to maybe fix some other holes in your side with the extra coin or keeping it for round 12 and going for a multiple upgrade.

Crowmagnon

Don't trade Smith out. half of supercoaches will be getting him IN soon. I'm looking forward to downgrading Oxley to him in a couple of weeks.

John_Q_Smith

Any Tigers fans with an ear to the ground on when Lambert will be back (AFL website saying round 10 or 12) and whether he will slot straight back into the team? I'm in the awkward situation of having Lever already and not enough cash to get rid of Vanders to a Rocky-type so a downgrade to Lambert could fix a lot of problems. All I need is him playing by round 12 (that bye week is tricky) and have all the bench cover I could possibly want currently and really wouldn't mind a loophole option.

Tylo

Wont slot straight back in, battling with 5-6 other players for only 2 spots so will need to show some form first.

Paule

ok community do I go Vandenberg / Hogan to Rockyand and hair hat priddus or get Parker insted of Pridus?
What r your thoughts?
cheers

Crowmagnon

Parker is better value at the moment.

Paule

oh and patch I see you have named Tippet in the fwd line, did you mean Tarrant?
PS great write up mate Thanks

Spooners

Betts or Goddard for Hogan, who would be the better option?

Paule

i would go goddard, I dont think eddie can keep going like this all year. Goddard is a proven SC champion

I N Pieman

Agree Paule. I’d see Betts as someone you’d need to trade again

SCaddict

Probably Goddard as Eddie's purple patch could dry up at any point.

But frankly you are paying substantial overs for both of these guys so I'd actually conserve your cash and bring in someone who is discounted right now like a Buddy or Ziebell or alternatively upgrade a mid to either a Parker, Rocky or Stevie J type.

Making your dollar go as far as humanly possible is often key to Supercoach success.

Mitch

Guys need help!!!

Team is
backs – shaw oxley newnes kolojasni (however you spell it) mcintosh, saad, n. brown hamling
mids – fyfe, pendles, beams, selwood, parker, griffen, mller, cripps, vanbenberg, yolmen, mckenzie,
rucks – goldy, maric
fwds – swan, goddard, d.martin, gray, tarrant, krakour, salem, m.clark

with only 60k in the bank i need to cull someone to make some cash for a upgrade which im really unsure on
looking to bring in rocky in a week or 2 when he shows a decent score

Cant make up my mind if Lever is the real deal?
24 trades left

COMMUNITY HELP!

Mitch

Was thinking vandenberg out, swing saad to mids then get lever but like having saad in defense

John_Q_Smith

I think that Vanders must go this week and Lever is the only real option unless you really want to put your plums on the table and do something like trade in a Stretch (pending selection), Dale or Amon (again, pending selection). I can see why you want to keep Saad down back but you could use the extra cash to do something like Brown and Vanders out for Lever and Rockliff.

Nicholas

Hey Community I have a dilemma this week with only scoring a 2,101 last week and I currently have 21 trades.
Here is my team, not sure what to do this week.
Back- Shaw, Taylor, Oxley, Ibbotson, McIntosh, McKenzie (Lever, Hamling)
Mid- Fyfe, Priddis, Selwood, Griffen, Lewis, Miller, Cripps, Krakouer (Vandenberg, Saad, Ellis-Yolmen)
Ruck- Goldstein, Naitanui ( Read)
Forward- Swan, Goddard, Gray, Martin, Franklin, Tarrant ( Hogan, Clark)
I am currently ranked 8,879 and would really appreciate any advice what to do this week.
Was thinking of Rocky or Parker this week but I only have a lousy $150,300 in the bank.
Thinking of going vand to rockliffe and oxley to a rookie via dpp to generate some cash.This leaves me with 260k for double upgrade next week. Which rookie would i bring inlooking at dale from wstb and ellis from richmond. I could even downgrade hogan or ibbotson instead if its better to keep oxley.
Thanks for your help.

Paule

Ive got the same rookies as you except in def, I got rid of Vandenberger and hogan this week as they have no more cash to make. Im keeping Oxley this week because I believe he will score ok. Id definitely go Vandenberg to Rocky and maybe Hogan to McInnes. West coast are playing the saints and he should score well.
Good luck mate hope it helps

Nicholas

mabe i will go to leslie not sure about his js

Nicholas

pls help me rumnniong out of time

Zoomer

Whats your thoughts guys bring in Jelwood or StevieJ

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Selwood

Luke

Selwood

Adsy

What's more important this week? (Rank 1800 overall)
1. Side/upgrading Griffen for ?? (can you give me a name under 600k?) and VBerg > Lever (DPP)
2. Oxley > Lever and Vberg > Rocky

So basically I'm tossing up whether to keep Oxley and hope he comes somewhere close to his BE so I don't lose coin, but then miss out on Lever, making Oxley an upgrade rather than a downgrade in coming weeks. OR keep Griffen who I've had a gutful of and lock in Rocky at possibly his lowest price, leaving more money for maybe a McDonald>Oxley next week perhaps. Any suggestions? Cheers!

Adsy

Sorry I don't miss out on Lever in Option 1, but no one else seems to jump out in the next week or two down back for a downgrade anyway.

Tyler

How many trades do you have?

Adsy

23 at the moment. Gotta continue to trade with my team. Lots of cash cows I need to cull. About 90k in the bank.

Tyler

Yeah ok well I would go option 1. Griffin imo has to go now. He is like an under performing under performing premo. Yes the worst is probably behind him, but I don't see him getting heaps better. Trade him out for a player like Parker, Selwood or another under performing premo. See if you can get Rocky next week or wait till byes, and cull some rooks

Adsy

23 trades. Late decision but ended up going for Option 1, and sidegraded Griffen for Rocky, along with VBerg to Lever. Makes me some important coin for next couple of upgrades. Hope it doesn't bite me!

Dean

It bite you VERY hard trading out Griffen. So did trading out Vandenberg for another rookie, especially a high priced rookie at that.

How ever most including myself who traded out vanderberg for a premo such as Rockliff or Parker, I chose to go Parker as his B/E was ridiculously low, his price will now be close to when he started so im not concerned about making this trade.

I was also going to trade out Oxley for Lever but chose against that as defence is very volatile this year, choosing to keep Oxley might be a FANTASTIC decision over time as defence players are scoring all over the place apart from Shaw & McDonald if you were lucky enough to chose him from the start…

Donavan

Like the communities opinion-

OUT – Vandenberg & Oxley IN – Tom McDonald & Dale (and gain a fwd/mid swing set)

or

No trade this week.

If no trade then Vandenberg is on the bench, so points gain will be McDonald over Oxley.

medadsson

Hi community. Can anyone tell me what is Nathan Krakouers' status? Has he been elevated off rookie list for a LTI or if he is still a rookie isn't he limited to a certain number of games? Would appreciate any advice.

Tylo

Elevated for Polec I believe.

Glorin

Mumford, Jacobs or Maric ?

Donavan

Maric – starting to put some scores together, and with the return of Deledio & form return of Cothin, I think he and the Tigers can put together a good block of games.

Glorin

Thanks Donavan.

Was leaning that way. Love Mummy, but know its only a matter of time before he as some time out and Jacobs, just not sure.
cheers

Jacko

Do I trade swallow?

Donavan

Yes, I dont see him being a top 10 mid, or increasing in value considerably, there are better cheaply priced options that can be had.

Liam

Looking ahead to byes, is it the top 18 scorers for each bye round that count towards your overall score?

medadsson

Yes Liam, top 18 regardless of position but I believe must be placed on field or emergency.

Liam

Cheers mate

Luke

Will be keeping Salem this week, allows the loophole of clark and hogan. Feel Clark could go big tonight against a very average Carlton team. Could also put out another 50ish score and go missing for a half.

ThatDamnRascal

Tonight's game I'm looking to Loophole Cripps and Clark using Heeney and Lambert if they don't fire can replace with krakour and Tarrant to take their place.
Good luck all may the supercoach gods me with you all this round

MOC

Franklin… YES OR NO?!?

Tyler

Yes

Donavan

Yes, but next week

MOC

He seems to play well against hawthorn though which is why I was getting him this week

Poloko48

Gee I really hope you didn't end up getting him in!

Tophawk

Nahhh… He is too busy with Jesinta at the moment. Please call back later………LOL

I am staying away from him, UNTIL he puts out a decent performance. We are still waiting and a third of the season has gone.

YellowNBlack

hi all,

really need help to decide wether to trade or not??

thinking of TBC to Parker.. is it worth losing the ruck cover?

would leave me $119k and 21 trades..

appreciate any help!

thanks

Glorin

Do it. Adding a premo with cash left over. To easy.

Donavan

Definately do it. Parker will give you extra points over your M8 every week, whereas you may not need back-up, and if so probably only once, and you may be able to trade around it.

YellowNBlack

thanks guys appreciate the advice!