312 Comments

Ben · 21/05/2015 at 22:09
If Priddis can nearly score 200 against Gold Coast, imagine what Pendles could score…

Danners16 · 21/05/2015 at 22:14
Pendlebury, doesn't seem like Gold Coast are tagging players

stevie · 21/05/2015 at 22:39
Pendles has a milestone game should go big!

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:28
im going Selwood.
Hes had a couple of quiet weeks and im hoping for a 125+ on the big stage friday night

Jambo · 22/05/2015 at 08:57
Be wary of Carlton tagging players. I reckon Selwood and Johnson will both be tagged.

Dann · 21/05/2015 at 21:57
Not playing this week, hold for a better option next week imo

Hazey · 21/05/2015 at 22:05
Or use for a mid trade via swinger?

Ben · 21/05/2015 at 22:08
I'm keeping him for this week. Emergency loophole with Clark and Tarrant.

Kano · 21/05/2015 at 22:09
I am keeping him this week and downgrading to dale next week depending on dales’ game. He should only miss a week or two so if dale has a stinker then I will keep. If he comes back and loses money then I will take the loss and wait for a suitable rookie replacement. There just no suitable downgrade options at the moment and even if he loses 50 grand you will still make in between 50 and 100 with the next rookie that comes through. He has reasonable JS as well so he could even end up recovering the money he lost.

Danners16 · 21/05/2015 at 22:15
Got to go if possible

SammyBoy · 21/05/2015 at 22:15
Thanks guys, could us a DPP like krakour but even then there are no real suitable options, probably keep him until I find a better rookie.

4rm · 21/05/2015 at 23:16
Jack Steele from GWS is a mid fwd .$117k. Has been named emg last 2 weeks, if your in a pickle he may help. Sounds like he's been ripping it up in the 2s

r2d2 · 21/05/2015 at 23:22
Keep lonie

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:29
hold mate
bad situation but dont want to make it worse buy doing a silly trade

Scotty · 21/05/2015 at 21:52
Sorry guys
I went too early

Nathan · 21/05/2015 at 21:53
He will only rise 20k if he scores 120

Jacko1998 · 21/05/2015 at 22:00
his be is 110-120. so nothing if not go down a little

General Soreness · 21/05/2015 at 22:09
His BE is 79

Cozza · 21/05/2015 at 23:00
That is his fantasy BE – he will start to go up this week

Hazey · 21/05/2015 at 22:01
JPK for mine.

The Ranger · 21/05/2015 at 22:14
JPK

General Soreness · 21/05/2015 at 22:11
JPK

Danners16 · 21/05/2015 at 22:22
JPK, you might find McDonald cheaper soon

Dan · 22/05/2015 at 01:41
McDonald. Mids are a dime a dozen.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:30
Sloan to rocky is good, even if Sloan plays next week he has dropped 100k and has a HUGE BREAK EVEN so we will get him super cheap after the byes

Anthony · 22/05/2015 at 09:07
Thanks for the comments guys, I am going to make the JPK move. Saad being back helps sure up my defence for another couple of weeks and I'll look to get McDonald down the track, hopefully at a slightly cheaper price.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/05/2015 at 09:56
Depends on byes don’t want too many out Rd 12

Nathan · 21/05/2015 at 21:56
Why trade out Grundy?

Ben · 21/05/2015 at 22:10
Not sure how Ibbo's been doing but not a fan of trading either out.

Danners16 · 21/05/2015 at 22:22
Your team must be pretty good if you're considering trading one of those two

Krazee-Eyez Killa · 21/05/2015 at 22:52
Trading ibbotson is a wasted sideways trade. He didn’t score too well last week in a freo team who went kinda close to losing to the dogs. Think of why you brought him into your team in the first place. Hold him for now

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:30
i say hold both

anthonyc12 · 21/05/2015 at 21:53
Selwood

The Ranger · 21/05/2015 at 22:14
Selwood

Ben · 21/05/2015 at 22:10
Selwood

Danners16 · 21/05/2015 at 22:21
Selwood would be more reliable

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:30
Selwood

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/05/2015 at 09:58
Depends on your byes always need to have one eye looking ahead.

Ben · 21/05/2015 at 22:11
Buddy purely because he's guaranteed a game, but hard to split them

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:31
Toss a coin mate
to make it easier i will choose
Heads = Buddy
Tails – Titch

Starky · 22/05/2015 at 09:18
He is in hiding after the Savage recommendation.
Seriously though his articles are thorough so must be hard with a full time job.

General Soreness · 21/05/2015 at 22:11
Immediately

The Ranger · 21/05/2015 at 22:13
Yes!

Ben · 21/05/2015 at 22:12
Both good upgrades, you'd want to bring in premiums sooner rather than later.

Hazey · 21/05/2015 at 22:20
Thanks for the replies fellas! Have a feeling in my waters that Selwood will go mental tomorrow night against The Blues. My slip him in and get the VC right on him!

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/05/2015 at 10:02
Maybe go rocky Vanders as Vanders may leak cash but if u can wait a week jelwood as has a high be and lonie out so will get jelwood possibly 20-30k cheaper next week?

Jack · 22/05/2015 at 10:27
Points on field over cash in bank I reckon. Lonie is a 0 this week. Get Selwood. It’s only 20k.

The Ranger · 21/05/2015 at 22:15
Parker. He has the runs on the board.

Ben · 21/05/2015 at 22:36
Parker

throttlefinger · 21/05/2015 at 23:06
Not even close. Parker. Parker. Still at a low price.

SCaddict · 22/05/2015 at 00:36
Yes the S.S. Titch set sail last week for those who jumped aboard. Parker is the better deal this week all things considered.

Jambo · 22/05/2015 at 08:54
Parker…daylight then Mitchell. 😉

Hazey · 21/05/2015 at 22:19
Toying with that idea myself Ryan! Not sure about having Buddy, Mitchell and Parker though?

Francis · 21/05/2015 at 22:27
It all depends on your bye structure (if you care about the byes). My thinking is Buddy will likely be a Top 6 FWD and has bottomed out, while Rockliff will not be Top 8 MID. After reading that Rockliff isn't fully training and is still in pain, along with the fact he hasn't scored over 100 this season, I think it's too early to bring him in. If Rockliff gets 130+ this week, I'll bring him in next week for 20k more, not a big deal. Buddy will explode

The Ranger · 21/05/2015 at 22:39
Ryan, I think at this stage of the season it's important to stop thinking about top 8 mids, top 6 fwds and instead to think about who will score the most points in the rounds that are left.
Francis is right to say Rocky may not be in the top 8 mids overall but from now on in he has a good chance of achieving that based on his previous scores.
I'd take Rocky over Buddy myself.

throttlefinger · 21/05/2015 at 23:06
I'm doing that, Ryan. Fortifying the forward line.
Going Tmac and Buddy for Oxley and Vandy (moving Krak to mids).
Not sold on Rocky in this new Lions team. 2015 Rocky isn't 2016 Rocky. Need a new lens to see him. Just like everyone needed a new lens for post-surgery Ablett.

Ben · 21/05/2015 at 22:38
I'd be careful of De Goey. Expensive rookie at 200k, massive sub risk and borderline best 22.

Cozza · 21/05/2015 at 23:04
First option. You end up with the same team on the field irrespective of whether you trade Sloane or Vandenberg and there is a high change that Vandenberg will lose more money this week. No harm in holding Sloane another week (and may mean you don't need to trade him if he comes back earlier than expected).

Krazee-Eyez Killa · 21/05/2015 at 22:49
If griffin isn’t gonna be in your final team, ditch him now and take the cash. No point trading out Lonie just yet. His price won’t drop as he’s not playing this week

Krazee-Eyez Killa · 21/05/2015 at 22:47
Oxley has busted out a 140+ this year. Don’t think his price has peaked just yet. Will be holding onto him at least until the byes. Collingwood have Gold Coast and Melbourne before then

Simon · 21/05/2015 at 22:49
Fair point just reversed then traded lumumba and vanderberg for Gray and lever

Cozza · 21/05/2015 at 23:06
I think those are great trades. Oxley is pretty close to his peak – only his the hundreds twice this year and the rest of the scored have been mediocre at best – time to take his cash

deesnuts · 21/05/2015 at 22:44
Definitely goddard

Krazee-Eyez Killa · 21/05/2015 at 22:58
He has Goddard.
I’d get Buddy if you don’t have him. He’s around 470k and hasn’t really gotten ahold of any teams just yet and is still averaging nearly 94. He’ll be a 100+ average by the end of the year. Can see him being a top 6 forward

r2d2 · 21/05/2015 at 23:26
Swan

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:38
Ryder as a semi POD

ATeam12345 · 22/05/2015 at 08:50
lids

Ethan · 21/05/2015 at 23:03
absolutly spot on, Yeo would have been playing on the wing but he's so good inside that we need to use his ability to contest the footy

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:40
Jock did ignore that comment which was nice.
Dont want to beat down a member of the community
But i can see Jocks point of View
Yeo is a high mid pricer and with that comes the risk.
anyone picking Yeo must do so with sound reasoning and a clear plan. dont just follow the pack

Jambo · 22/05/2015 at 08:48
I think we will agree to disagree, mate. However, his performance in the midfield has been quite impressive.

Jambo · 22/05/2015 at 08:53
Jonesy 🙂 Best of luck this weekend.

Jacob · 22/05/2015 at 09:56
Another benifit for people to consider is Yeo's round 11 bye (not shared by many Premos) and his DPP status (very helpful during bye rounds) My query on Yeo was will he be getting extended midfiled time for the rest of the year and listening to many Adam Smipson interviews this week im quietly confident that he will. Simpson has said Yeo will only go down back as a last resort option (i.e injury)
Im aware of the risks but im jumping on!

Jambo · 22/05/2015 at 14:58
Doesn't Yeo have his bye in Round 13?

Rick Grimes · 22/05/2015 at 06:10
His output has been minimal and there is no evidence that it's going to increase, just speculation. Sure, based on last year you'd back him to come right. But until I actually see evidence of that, I'll hold. And if I pay an extra $50k for him, so be it.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:43
million $ question
im bringing him in my team beause it fits my structure and i was always going to get him no matter what when he bottomed out in price
if you can justify it, get him this week but if you have a plan and getting rocky in ruins that plan, then forget him this week.
imagine if he gets knocked out again for a sub 20 – 30 score. its a real risk and everyone will be holding their breath hoping he doesnt get another concussion or broken rib

Krazee-Eyez Killa · 21/05/2015 at 22:59
None. Why not just upgrade him? 140k or so gets you Rockliff or Tom Mitchell

Ethan · 21/05/2015 at 23:02
De goey looks ok
stretch seems to keep his place but risks green vest

Krazee-Eyez Killa · 21/05/2015 at 23:06
117k would be made off going vandenberg to de goey. Not worth it IMO

@Rem_Wah · 22/05/2015 at 08:36
Well, I would upgrade him, but I want to trade Salem to Deledio.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:44
Lids has a BE of 119
hold on lids this week, see how he scores and how his achillies is

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:45
VBD must be an upgrade

t2b · 22/05/2015 at 08:57
Isn't Lids DPP? You could get him for VDB.

Krazee-Eyez Killa · 21/05/2015 at 23:01
He’s probably gonna increase again this week. Will end up being the #1 ranked forward. Why EVERY team didn’t have him in their initial squad is beyond me.
You do the math

craig · 21/05/2015 at 23:11
x 2. Get the Gray train in your forward line this week mate. You'll thank yourself once you see those solid 100+'s every week.

Bye Week · 21/05/2015 at 23:29
Didn’t put him in initial team as had to choose between pendles and gray.
And pendles in 9 seasons has avg 108. And his first two seasons were his only two where he didn’t avg +103. As opposed to gray who in 8 seasons has only once avgd over 91 (career avg Of 80). And has only twice played all 22 games in a season. And with a starting price of 600k two bad games would easily drop his price a decent amount – that was roughly my thinking at start of season anyways more or less. (I did also make the mistake on gambling on ablett who took a large chunk of my funds)

Bye Week · 21/05/2015 at 23:29
And cheers for the replies

The Bont · 22/05/2015 at 00:15
Probably not. Will easily be number 1 FWD, won't be getting any cheaper

Motsy · 21/05/2015 at 23:11
I wouldn't touch Thurlow or Yeo with a ten foot pole. The semi decent scores won't (and haven't) last.

Chris · 21/05/2015 at 23:40
But Yeo's been scoring well with the new role he has in the midfield, still wouldn't touch him?

Tyler · 22/05/2015 at 07:41
I think yeo is a bit of a risk but hey, could very well pay off big time. There are better, more proven options though, for 436k you can get docherty, 469k Rob Murphy, and for around the 500 mark you could get Enright or Shaw. or you could wait a few weeks and pick up Smith for a very cheap price. I think Yeo has the potential to outscore them all but most likely won't keep up his incredible scoring.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:45
Tyler has some sound advice
i would take note

Jambo · 22/05/2015 at 08:50
What about Josh Gibson? Lake and Frawley are back, which will release Gibbo to do what he does best. He is $479k.

David · 22/05/2015 at 09:02
Great call im goin to wait 1 more week to get Gibson in BE 117 hoping he drops a little more this week.

Stickman · 21/05/2015 at 23:51
I'd go Pendles for his 200th

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:46
i went selwood
both are due for a big one
but im looking for safety and friday night VC option makes sure i dont forget or get distracted throughout the saturday
the best is when ya Fyfes and Pendles have a Sunday game, means i can throw back a few frothies on the saturday and not worry about missing a C option

David · 22/05/2015 at 09:02
PENDALS

Stickman · 21/05/2015 at 23:53
Trades for this week look good, hard to get a read on the two rookies you mentioned. If they get named next week then they could be solid selections.

John_Q_Smith · 22/05/2015 at 01:30
If you can wait a week to see Dale (WBD) play another game I'd do that. Why not just go Vanders to Rockliff this week and hold on the rookie downgrades until next week? Ellis (Richmond) has been named on field so at least that means he isn't a sub risk although I'm not sold on his spot in that side. If you really want to make two trades this week then Ellis is probably the option over Billy Stretch (Melbourne) if he's named – he's on the extended bench this week. I think I'll be trading Ellis in as I'm in the same boat as you with already having Lever but not having enough to straight swap Vanders to anyone and he needs to go this week. I'm not sure you need to go for a double upgrade next week, keep in mind that you need some cash in the bank for the byes… I also quite like keeping Oxley as he has a soft run until his bye and has shown he has scoring potential.

Nicholas · 22/05/2015 at 09:12
I could get rid of ibbo instead of oxley instead if thats better

Stickman · 21/05/2015 at 23:49
I would hold Lumumba up to the byes at least. Also don't think either of those options as the have high breakevens so would give it a couple weeks. But out of the two would pick Bob Murphy

SCaddict · 22/05/2015 at 00:43
You've held him this long that you may as well hold the bastard to his favourable Rd13 bye and then finally rid yourself of the gift at that point.
Most coaches would probably be better served upgrading in the midfield this week with all the bargains around right now.

Stickman · 21/05/2015 at 23:46
I would take Parker I think McDonald and Mitchell are now overpriced and haven't seen enough from Rockliff this year yet.

SCaddict · 22/05/2015 at 00:24
I'm going from the Hindenburg disaster to Parks myself and will then snap up Rocky once he can show me he's back to tonning up.
Parker is in red hot form now and with a BE of just 42 should be significantly more expensive next week so this is definitely the week to jump on if you fancy him.

Stickman · 21/05/2015 at 23:45
I like Parker more than Rocky, I just need one big score from Rocky to show that his injury isn't affecting him too much.

Kev · 22/05/2015 at 09:22
Some short memories in community, he was the bane of every coaches existence 2 weeks ago

Locked and Loaded · 22/05/2015 at 10:15
Had him all last year was my best player a couple of bad scores doesn’t scare me

Jambo · 22/05/2015 at 14:59
I'm with you mate. I will bring in Rocky probably next week.

r2d2 · 21/05/2015 at 23:32
Mid currently …. Fyfe Pendles Parker danger Griffen Lewis Cripps CEY ( vandenberg lambert krak)

Jimi · 22/05/2015 at 14:01
I'm in the same boat re: trades, it's even forcing me to think of keeping Saad and Oxley long term. Im down to 18 trades (thanks to multiple injuries to premos). My team now consistently puts out 2200+ scores so fingers crossed I can sit on this squad for a few weeks (injuries permitting).
Although Lever's scoring output doesn't really excite me, I think he's worth the downgrade just for his JS. Rookies with JS are going to become rarer as the season grinds on.

SCaddict · 22/05/2015 at 00:19
Not for me Azza. Just too much downside with a player like Robbo. He's had a decent month for sure but nonetheless has only averaged 83 for the season which is well below what you would look for in a forward.
Also historically he's been both an injury and suspension risk and in fact hasn't played 20 games of footy since 2011.
So many better options out there even for say just another $30K or $40K like a Buddy, Titch, Pav, Motlop or Ziebell.

SCaddict · 22/05/2015 at 01:22
Would hold him until a decent rookie appears on the bubble unless you already have the cash to upgrade him to a proven premo in which case you can pull the trigger now.
I'm converting him this week to a ruck premo myself.

yurkins · 22/05/2015 at 02:27
yep dumped him a couple of weeks ago to POD Martin…

Rick Grimes · 22/05/2015 at 06:19
I've never been a fan of the ruck cover strategy. Unless TBC is sitting on your bench, I think you're doing yourself out of points. Of course, now I said that Mummy is going to break down….

Jimi · 22/05/2015 at 14:08
Although many of the rucks have been disappointing scoring wise, we've been lucky this year with ruck injuries….i hate having TBC in my team but whenever I think of trading him I just remember the carnage I had in my rucks last year and how many trades it cost me. It's bound to happen again sooner or later.

Ethan · 22/05/2015 at 07:22
If TBC is in your R3 then yes its a bit of an issue
but F6 or F7 i think you should be fine. If not over the byes you can upgrade him to ryder

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:53
keep him until you can upgrade him to Ryder

Rick Grimes · 22/05/2015 at 06:17
Think you answered your own question. A lot of teams have these players, therefore we'll all be in the same boat come round 12. Unless you go against the grain and avoid upgrading to any of these popular picks. That is certainly a viable strategy, gets you a POD and possibly a points jump during the byes. I always start the season with a bye strategy and then scramble a couple of weeks out. Oh well.

derek · 22/05/2015 at 09:04
I have a very colourful spreadheet that has it all worked out.
I have 14 round 12 players, but only 6 round 11 players. (I'm not counting my R3 or H Goddard)
will bring in Lever & Jacobs for Oxley & TBC this week, this will make it 12 for round 12 and 8 for round 11.
Will go 1 trade next week, Cripps to Rocky (they are both Round 11 bye players.

Donavan · 22/05/2015 at 06:42
Yes, the number & quality of rookies on the horizon is diminishing.
Got to ride the original rookies to near their full value, can't believe the amount of people talking of trading half plump rookies like CEY, Cripps, Krak, etc.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:35
Yes
🙁

derek · 22/05/2015 at 08:58
I have a full playing list this week.
many rookies will fatten up this week, coming off a great score last time they played.
CEY
Saad
Miller
Cripps
Tarrent
Even my other rookies are set to increase in price if they can score ok
Mckenzie
McIntosh
Clark
Have already got rid of Hogan, Salem & Vandenberg, and Oxley is going this week.
I think I need at least another $900k increase in my rookies to reach full premium, this could happen in the next 3 weeks.

Timmmy · 22/05/2015 at 09:25
Yes. But some potentials maybe playing this week (Dawson and Edwards) and hopefully Steele finally gets a well deserved run soon.

The Ranger · 22/05/2015 at 10:17
I think it's always like this Rick, hopefully a few will pop up soon.
What you can do is keep an eye on who is getting named on the emergency lists, who's doing well in the magoos, who's getting talked about in the press, who was talked about preseason.
In short, do some research on who you think will get game time at some point even if they're not actually playing at the moment.
Steele, Goddard, Dawson, Edwards, Ellis, Lambert, and Maynard are all on my list of potential downgrades.

Jimi · 22/05/2015 at 14:10
That exactly why I've downgraded to this week. Not great scores but good JS considering nothing much else is on the rookie horizon.

Jimi · 22/05/2015 at 14:10
to *Lever

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:34
nah mate, nothing
me personally im holding on Lever
im waiting for the next set of rookies to be on the b ubble

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:34
in the podcast Jock says he isnt a Must
but if you dont get him you need to be able to explain why and have a solid plan

derek · 22/05/2015 at 08:52
I think his ribs are pretty sore and he is playing injured.
He will still score better than his price, but I'm not convinced of the big scores until he is 100% fit. The more he plays and the less rest, the longer it will take to get back to 100%. I'm getting him after his bye round.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 08:56
everything your saying is true and makes sence
theres really no right answer
either option is a good one. one thing everyone agrees on is that he is a LOCK at some point this season

derek · 22/05/2015 at 10:17
The only reason I'm considering him is his price. I didn't have him in my plans at all until his price dropped below $480k. (Sam Mitchell Starting price) to good not to consider.
We know how the output of players when they are carrying an injury – poor (Zorko etc). Honestly, he shouldn't be playing!

Liam · 22/05/2015 at 11:04
Was thinking Touk miller to rocky after rocky's bye

Kev · 22/05/2015 at 09:15
Nice problem to have, kinnas. Check out player averages and go with your gut

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 09:09
i like the positivity being generated here
anyone else with some kind words???

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 09:13
SWAN
GODDARD
GRAY
D.SMITH
MARTIN
and a smoky
J REIWOLDT

derek · 22/05/2015 at 10:01
hopefully my final team will be:
Goddard, Swan, Dusty, Gray, Bartel, Buddy

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 09:15
My only justification is as follows
Bottomed out in price
Low BE
POD
and
He cant possibly do any worse can he????
It was either him or Kieran Jack as i dont have any Syd players except for T.MITCHEL

Matt · 22/05/2015 at 13:59
If you have the cash then I agree. I however don’t have the cash so I will bring in rocky

derek · 22/05/2015 at 10:09
salem has to go.
Vandenberg & Oxley are near their price top, if you were looking to cash them in it would be this week. (Oxley has some nice games coming up, so maybe Vandenberg to go.
You have some nice rookies that have plenty of cash to be made yet, CEY, Cripps (one more week only), Saad, McKenzie, McIntosh, Krak, Clark, tarrent, miller….all great rookies and all going up in value. Hold them for now.
Priority would be to get a premium defender. not many standouts, who is on your wish list for defence, get one of them that have bottomed in price and lock them in.
Midfield can be upgraded as you cull the cows.

rosco_peco · 22/05/2015 at 10:15
possibly salem > mcinnes then vandenberg > rockliff leaves you with $56k

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 09:29
risky but Steven bloody Johnson is a bloody good footballer and a very proud man
he wants so bad to be SC relevant

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/05/2015 at 11:39
Jack will share points with other swans mids but there appears enough to go around. Treloar? Value here in an improving GWS side.

derek · 22/05/2015 at 10:13
I would put McKenzie slightly ahead. Mainly because of his DDP.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 11:22
i have gone Miller
just signed a new contract and coming off some great form

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/05/2015 at 11:40
Do u have a non playing mid ie Heeney?

rosco_peco · 22/05/2015 at 11:53
no i don't unfortunately, vandenberg is the other on the bench

rosco_peco · 22/05/2015 at 10:49
top 18 scorers on field

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 11:22
Rance is due to have a stinker sometime soon
hold until then , grab him cheap
= happy days

@Rem_Wah · 22/05/2015 at 16:02
Burgoyne, Docherty, Birchall are some options

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 11:23
Ox to Doc is a wasted trade
hold Ox

Locked and Loaded · 22/05/2015 at 12:13
Wasted trade?? How do you figure?

Locked and Loaded · 22/05/2015 at 12:15
Ox is a rookie that will eventually need culling. Probably at his peak price right now and has been subbed twice this year. What I'm getting at is Dochertybis performing well and a solid upgrade option.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:23
Last 5 Round Avg for Docherty = 83.8
Last 5 round Avg for The Ox = 85.6
Doc has only risen 24 k in price all year and priced at 438k he isnt that good, take out that one score of 140+ and he is a mid level mid pricer
Stay with the Ox

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:26
Further to that
Last 3 round Avg for The Ox = 94.67
Last 3 round Avg for the Doc = 94.33
What i am trying to say is this is a clear sideways trade
Do not do sideways trades ever – especially Mid Pricer for Mid Pricer
Remember to always paint the fence with Every Trade (unless LTI Premo Mid)
Go for Heath Shaw or another Premo DEF such as RANCE, HOULI, ENRIGHT

rosco_peco · 22/05/2015 at 10:50
option 2 – i'd hold oxley until round 12

joey · 22/05/2015 at 11:07
I kinda want Ziebell though as a POD. Should I do Jacobs and Ziebell, then next week get Rocky in and swing Ziebell into my Fwd line?

rosco_peco · 22/05/2015 at 11:40
I like it mate!

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 11:23
Sauce and Rocky

SCaddict · 22/05/2015 at 12:49
Big Will has to go mate. If he can't get a game this week after last weekend's ruck shenanigans then I'm not sure when he ever will.
One of the burn men of the year unfortunately albeit somewhat of a head scratcher.

joey · 22/05/2015 at 17:30
Hey thanks SCaddict, what are your thoughts on Ziebell and Jacobs?

murray · 22/05/2015 at 14:11
option 2 easily

joey · 22/05/2015 at 17:30
What about Ziebell and Jacobs?

Barney · 22/05/2015 at 10:39
I’m going Stevie J. Could go big against Carlton

rosco_peco · 22/05/2015 at 10:51
No

Nato · 22/05/2015 at 10:59
not for me. Stevie is too inconsistent these days.
Long teeth

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 11:24
nah mate
rocky over Steven Johnson
unless you bring in both avoid SJ

Jimi · 22/05/2015 at 11:29
I looked at him closely.
He looks like he's coming into a bit of form now (scored at 1.43 ppm coming on a as a sub in rd 4 and scored tons in rd 6 & 7) but he's burned me for the past 2 years. Can't bring myself to do it.

rosco_peco · 22/05/2015 at 10:51
Mac & Heeney for mine

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 11:25
Hold Ox
Hold McIntosh
Vandenburg to Rocky = Good Trade
Hold Heeney one more week and see if any rookies bob their heads up
or build the warchest and make Heeney a Premo

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 11:28
One of the best swaps for Ox that i have seen.
However i cant stress enough to hold Ox, find another way to get Burgoyne (upgrade a MID Rookie option, bring Burg into ya MIDS then in the next couple of weeks swap Burg into DEF and upgrade a DEF rookie to a MID premo

jimmydowland · 22/05/2015 at 14:49
why are your holding ox?

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:40
Nope
Rocky cheaper
Go Rocky

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 12:33
Anyone wanna throw there 2 cents in here please lol Reallynot sold. Have literally done everyone and reversed it LOL.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:42
Priddis or Beams
Flip a coin

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 12:44
Thanks. Was leaning towards Kennedy. Priddis has really only had that one huge game? Beams has been pretty solid but has Parker turned it around and ready to explode? Lol. So confused 😐

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 14:32
Anyone else with some thoughts?

Brookesy · 22/05/2015 at 14:47
JPK

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 15:02
Who I'm feeling the most, though has least likely to blow up in price.
Beams is likely for a big rise as is Parker.

Pete444 · 22/05/2015 at 15:16
JPK

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 15:32
Lol second I see.
Anyone else? About to make a call. Got training this arvo!

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 16:21
Community tell me thoughts :
JPK
BEAMS
PARKER

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 12:25
same plan, doing next week

SCaddict · 22/05/2015 at 12:41
If you don't have any other trade priorities this week you may as well as pull the trigger now as it's only going to cost you a bit more next week. But yes it could wait a week if you'd rather do other stuff right now.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:43
i agree ^^^

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/05/2015 at 12:42
No cost. Cripps should go up $15-20k if he scores around 90 and Rocky won’t go up that much. So if that is your trade wait a week and you will be better off.

Jimi · 22/05/2015 at 14:04
Yeah but you're talking pocket change really, also if you pick up some injuries that affect your trade priorities it could make life difficult next week. If you're going to do it anyway pull the trigger now if you can.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/05/2015 at 16:04
No arguments here vanders to rocky done and done.

TRIGGER HAPPY · 22/05/2015 at 16:18
Just saying if cripps is your trade can wait a week as long as the unexpected doesn’t happen.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:44
Lever will score like Nathan Brown from the pies.
Very slow burn
I say Hold in DEF and see what other rookies pop their heads up in the next week or so

Brandon · 22/05/2015 at 14:50
Just not much availability for cash generation at this stage, and given adeladies injury problems a big game from lever this week could cement a spot for another 5 weeks which will allow for some cash generation
Reports saying scharenberg is close to returning which is a promising downgrade option given the hype, also hamling and Goddard are yet to play. Liam Dawson is another good choice who’s debuting this week too
I am also watch listing Shane Biggs this week, who was initially in my starting team. Essentially the tom Mitchell of footscray! I can see him avoiding the best and becoming a cripps like player who is a contested ball freak! Can make 150K downgrading Touk miller in afew weeks when he is on the bubble, and I reckon Biggs would be a solid M9-11 on the bench come finals

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 12:24
id go top

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:44
Vandeberg to Rocky
Hold Griffen

Ryan · 22/05/2015 at 13:04
griffen is a peasant and is killing me and everyone haha! not keen on t.mitchell??

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 13:48
yea very keen on titch
i got hi last week.
i just think you need to hold on griffen, he is a gun player, thats why you picked him in the first place.
look for another way to get titch

Ryan · 22/05/2015 at 12:33
will docherty be a top 6 defender?

Kev · 22/05/2015 at 14:38
Currently 10th, averages 1.5 less points than Picken in 6th. So yeah, I reckon he can be a solid D4-6

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:49
At the end of the day if you can justify your trade and your not pulling the trigger for the sake of chasing points then go ahead and do the trade.
The community wants to hear wisdom as well as advice
If you do trade Ox for Doc, let us all know why you did it, you may have thought of something the rest of us has not, however i think you should avoid the trade and i have explained to you why.
One thing to remember, is just because someone is a rookie does not mean they are a immediate CULL
Some rookies can become keepers. i would urge you to hold the Ox until the byes at least.

Locked and Loaded · 22/05/2015 at 13:03
Wheels I'm on this site to get some of the best advice i have received while playing SC. For me personally I don't believ any rookie should become a keeper they are rookies for a reason and need to used as cash cows. Oxley for me is at his peak price right now and Docherty provides a reliable choice down back in a defensive area which is cause for much pain this year. Who thought TMac would be where he is now? The reason I'm jumping on is the guy is a gun hence why many have jumoed on ie Lekdog in particular. Also it gets me closer to premo team quicker. I will have one defensive spot to fill and I will wait to get the best.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 13:56
You cant say all rookies have to be used as a cash cow..
single minded approach…
You may not remember a special player by the name of Jared Polec from a season past? became a keeper in many a team…

Kev · 22/05/2015 at 14:35
Polec already had 3 years in the system before moving to Port. Was a high draft pick (pick #5 from memory) but struggled with injuries/opportunity at the lions. Cant really compare him and Oxley.
Agree with Locked above, can't form emotional attachments to rookies. Ox has done an admirable job, might squeeze an extra 10-15k from him, but he has reached his ceiling price

brook · 22/05/2015 at 15:23
i agree that some cash cows can become keepers but it is very rare. barlow was on track before his injury in 2010. i dont think oxley fits that category but worth holding … i will upgrade him before his r12 bye all going well

Liam · 22/05/2015 at 15:26
I'm doing Kmac to docherty

Locked and Loaded · 22/05/2015 at 16:02
Oxley and Polec are completely different yes and Polec I think was kept by many as a keeper as teams ran out of trades. Anyway Docherty I understand isn't the best option and Carltons run over the next four is tough although I honestly believe he will be more tham serviceable down back in many teams

@wheels_1987 · 25/05/2015 at 08:17
hope you listened and kept the Ox…..

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:50
rucks are so fickle this season , i would suggest Rocky
However both Mummy and Sauce are good value this week
Think hard and justify your choice

Ryan · 22/05/2015 at 12:31
oxley can survive he might even get close to reaching his BE this week versing gold coast! no bench cover means get someone in for salem and probably vberg also

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 12:51
I like Ryans Answer
Time to go….
V-Berg and Salem !!
Keep the Ox

DWhit · 22/05/2015 at 15:02
Is there any rookie fwd on the bubble?

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 13:52
Big Balls
I like it and i like your justification.
Im in two minds, and im going for overall rank,
Leave Rocky and see what happens
or
get rocky
i just cannot refuse him at that price, its like going to a servo and filling up the car when petrol is a $1.20 per litre
dont really need it coz im on 3/4 of a tank but we all know tomorrow the petty price will fly up to $1.60
Crappy analogy i know but everyone needs petrol in their car
unless you drive a electric car

Trab Pukcip · 22/05/2015 at 14:22
Haha, nah I like that analogy mate!!! But you've got to throw in there that your car just isn't at 100% at the moment due to a few accidents (bloody women drivers) and no point driving it whilst it's not quite right. If you wait a few weeks till it's been repaired paying that extra 40 cents won't mean that much as you are enjoying your driving much, much more……(wait I've lost myself :))
Seriously though, im in the minority but I don't think holding off is going to burn us! I'm just going to go with my gut.

@wheels_1987 · 22/05/2015 at 13:59
avoid Mcinnes
you missed his bubble and the 84 is his best score
wait one more week if you can and get someone like Dale, or who knows another rookie may bob their head up
If you have green lights on your 6 FWD's then you may not need bench cover, waste of a trade in my opinion bringing in McInnes

Kev · 22/05/2015 at 14:28
Understand your want for bench cover, but neither of those are great options. Just hold for now

Pieman74 · 22/05/2015 at 15:54
Thanks wheels_1987 and Kev. Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. My only concern is that my team is not great at the moment (only averaging 1700 points per round) and sitting mid table in both my leagues and need to start winning more consistently to match it with the top teams in both leagues. At this stage, all my forwards are playing, however, as we know last week there were late withdrawals and I don't want to be left with a zero as it could cost me a crucial win.
I'm also worried that when Sloane returns he has a very high break even score and will lose more money while Van Berlo and Sloane have reached as much as they can price wise.

Kev · 22/05/2015 at 14:27
For me, paying over 500k for a defender is overs. If you don't mind Oxley/Lumumba/Newnes in that order

Tyler · 22/05/2015 at 14:47
If I get value from a defender over 500k, I'll take that anyday. Don't mind paying 530k for a player who consistently scores around 120 and has only had 2 sub-100 games of 95 and 97. So Paul I would upgrade Oxley. He's probably at the peak of his price right now

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 15:35
Good question. I've rotated between all of them, Beams and JPK for trades tonight.
I can't bring myself to lock Heppell in.
Rocky has another week before is urgent lock.
Parker might have a steep rise not sure of his BE.
JPK i don't think will jump to much.
Beams has a bit of a jump coming I think. Maybe look at him if you haven't got.

Pete444 · 22/05/2015 at 15:41
What about this
parker this week
rocky and dids next

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 15:42
U got Beams?
I get Parker and Rocky, Not sold on Delido. Plus I got Martin Maric Rance so I don't want any more big money Richo.

Pete444 · 22/05/2015 at 15:49
no I don't have beams
mids are fyfe, pendles JPK J selwood s johnson r griffen then rookies

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 16:09
I'd toss up between Beams and Parker

Pete444 · 22/05/2015 at 16:13
only thing that worry be about parker is that I have JPK and Tmich they all cant have big games every week

THEBEARD · 22/05/2015 at 16:19
I wouldn't worry. JPK is proven. Mitchell has shown others wrong 3 weeks running. Parker was unstoppable last year and now looks lie he might be on the right way. Although again I'd look at Beams if you had that problem.

Pete444 · 22/05/2015 at 16:26
only thing with beams is that I wont be able to get rocky and dids next week if I went that way

Pete444 · 22/05/2015 at 15:15
JPK by a mile

jmy7 · 22/05/2015 at 17:23
ive got both, because i got parkers this week as his BE is 42!! so if you want him, i think the time is now! thats my thoughs.

NickyV · 22/05/2015 at 18:11
Yolmen and Cripps. Unless you can do the Emergency loop hole. If possible, put Cripps on the bench and see if he gets a decent score.

NickyV · 22/05/2015 at 18:08
That's a hard one. Kmac's break even is 49 and he is averaging 67, Oxley's break even is 95 and he is averaging 82. This makes me think we should keep Kmac. But I need a rookie on my field, I am comfortable with Oxley on, Kmac makes me nervous and won't get above 70. That makes me want to keep Oxley. If we want in Lever, trading Oxley would give us 100k more for next weeks trades. This makes me want to keep Mcintosh again. It comes down to what you think will help your team.

NickyV · 22/05/2015 at 18:10
I like you idea with rockliff and Parker. I also am waiting for Rocky to show me a hundred before I use a precious trade on him.

NateCrows · 22/05/2015 at 18:19
it's a gamble Kmac or Oxley will be on field. Only difference is oxley is a rnd 12 bye and i few too many AND i think i like the 100k better. Kmac can still get a good score just not as likely as oxley.
Going with VBD to Priddis and Oxley to Lever, gives me 135k so i could go Miller or Cripps to Rocky when i need to. Holding Sloane will be in top 10 and can cover him. Unless 2 pull out…