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Mo’ Supercoach News|Lockliff?

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LekdogCommunity! Lekdog here with some mo’ supercoach news…

Is Tom Rockliff the lock we think he is? Is it too late to pick up Tom Mitchell? Who should we be looking to downgrade to?

All these questions and more are answered in this weeks Supercoach video.

Lots of love, @LekBlog.


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Ethan

Is mcintosh to lever a no brainer?

Ben

Not a no brainer. Mcintosh has better j/s than Lever as well as scoring output. At 150k with scoring upside similar to Nathan Brown's, only downgrade to him if you're desperate for cash.

Ethan

would like to build up a decent war chest, but rookies are now coming scarce for me. Mcintosh would have been on the bench anyway because jake kelly has been great in the past 2 weeks.

scrofl

I'm personally not getting Lever in, I don't think he'll score well enough to generate enough cash, so I'm saving the trade.

Ethan

fair enough. i just think with jaensch out it opens a spot for someone, whether that be lever or someone else is my only concern
if he pumps out 50's im fine to hold as a bench option

r2d2

Keep an eye out for wigg

Wheels1987

im thinking along the same lines

Deesnuts

vandeburg to any midfielder….thinking beams….
or
lonie to any midfielder

Josh

Think about Sam mitchell

derek

SMitchell I had from the start, he has done very well, especially while lewis and Hodge have been out. I wouldn't be getting him now. I'm looking at upgrading him very soon.

scrofl

Mitchell will get rested throughout the season, don't pick him. Beams would be a good POD.

Ben

I'd avoid trading in a player with a round 11 bye until afterwards unless it's Rockliff.

Wheels1987

rockliff

Liam

Love your stuff Lek.
Would love to hear your thoughts on these trades
Oxley down to Lever for some cash
Then Salem to Titch
Thanks for your help in advance.

Wheels1987

hold the Ox
Level low scoring output
Ox is a good player
Titch is a gun. i like this trade

MoshedPotatoes

I don't think hes talking about Shane Edwards who is a great POD until he killed me this week with the late out.

Josh

What’s everyone’s opinions on Sam Mitchell?

No ones really talked about him

But he has avg pretty high the last few weeks

And is cheap for his output I think

steve

probably play back when Lewis and the captain come back

Robbo

Mitchell has been scoring better because Hodge and Lucus are out.

Ben

Don't trade him in! Not a premium mid. When he's more expensive than Selwood, Dangerfield, Rockliff to name a few, not wise to bring him in.

scrofl

He'll play off half back when Lewis and Hodge come back in, and he'll get rested throughout the season. I'd avoid him.

Wheels1987

i have gone Kieran Jack instead

Jonathan

Brought Mitchell in two weeks ago and have enjoyed his past two 120 scores, put the C straight onto him until last week when I traded in Fyfe and he took the C. I think he was a player that if you had him, he had to have him at the start

@wheels_1987

with Hodge and Lewis returning expect a lower output from Mitchel

theholymullet

If you didn't start with him I wouldn't bother. Like others have said, there are better options out there. If you really want to get him consider these point (keeping in mind he's in my team, but I had him from the get go) :
1.) He's old (high chance of injury or resting.
2.) Hawthorn are a good team, but old, minutes are going to be needed to be given to young players this year in the middle.
3.) He does have the capacity to go big and loves to kick, DE% is brilliant.
4.) Even if he doesn't play in the midfield he will rarely go sub 90.

My opinion:
There are better fallen premiums out there to pick up. Mitchell is high risk.

Tom

i only have brown as Bench cover and Im looking at brining in Lever for him

is this too risky?
My plan is too upgrade Lever as soon as I can even if he only gets too around 250k and keep Saad as bench cover unless someone else comes along…

thoughts?

Swans2012

Makes sense to me

Jonathan

Adam Saad should be on the ground and deserves to be

Wheels1987

you have already answered your own query

if you can justify your trade and you have a plan then go ahead. i like that you are thinking ahead with your trades

@boltie_monster

Thoughts on these, I have next to no money in the bank and vandemberg but cant see a genuine rookie unless glenn returns to downgrade him to:
griffen to rockliff
Sloane to selwood

Ben

Both trades look good!

TheCompletePackage

…on paper.

Wheels1987

hold Griffen
and see if you can hold Sloan, rumour is he may be back early. but to generate $$ i like sloan to Rocky and hold Griffen.

My strong advise is hold Griffen until he is your M8. then look to upgrade him last once the rest of your team is solid

Jonathan

Solid trades

Nicholas

Hey Community I have a dilemma this week with only scoring a 2,101 last week and I currently have 21 trades.
Here is my team, not sure what to do this week.
Back- Shaw, Taylor, Oxley, Ibbotson, McIntosh, McKenzie (Lever, Hamling)
Mid- Fyfe, Priddis, Selwood, Griffen, Lewis, Miller, Cripps, Krakouer (Vandenberg, Saad, Ellis-Yolmen)
Ruck- Goldstein, Naitanui ( Read)
Forward- Swan, Goddard, Gray, Martin, Franklin, Tarrant ( Hogan, Clark)
I am currently ranked 8,879 and would really appreciate any advice what to do this week.
Was thinking of Rocky or Parker this week but I only have a lousy $150,300 in the bank.
Thinking of going vand to rockliffe and oxley to pearce to generate some cash.This leaves me with 160k for double upgrade next week. Not sure if I need to bring in Titch howvere.
Thanks for your help.

Ben

If it's Alex Pearce from Freo you're talking about, I wouldn't even consider him. Non existent job security. When Mcpharlin and Dawson come back in the team, he'll be the first one to make way.

Nicholas

well i dont wanna have him drop cash and need cash for next week. if i just dfo i trade i have no money in bank.

randomcliche

Maybe look at the doggie rookie who started with the green vest LekDog mentioned. Could still drop Oxley via DPP Saad. You've clearly gone early on others (lever/mckenzie I assume).

Nicholas

Yeh if glenn is playing i will bring him in

Wheels1987

1 trade this week

Vand to Rocky

worry about $$ at the round 11 bye when you can downgrade 3 players in one hit. with the intention of finishing your team byt the r13 bye

if you have to waste trades in a feeble att to get titch then dont do it. you have sorta already missed the boat and if you dont get him this week, look for other options

Nicholas

So keep oxley?

Wheels1987

keep the Ox
he is avg the same as most DEF. he has proven he has a high ceiling, and he can make his BE of 90 this week.

Show faith in the Ox

DEF is the last line i would even consider upgrading

Nicholas

Do u recommend glenn if he plays?

Wheels1987

i have had him since his Debut. looks good, but shaky 2nd game. if he plays i would bring him in for $ generation.

Jay

I would be tempted to go bring in a def fallen premo this week…..Oxely -> Rance/Burgoyne/Bob Murphy type and Vandenberg down to Glenn if named…You'd still keep your Mid/Def DPP link and upgrade in the def line.
Rocky, yes will go up in price this week, but still will be less than 500k so can get him next week

Love that forward line BTW…great scoring potential!!

chevvy

Ok, ranked in the top 1% 1945. Now is it worth bringing in rockliff to maintain up there? I

Boggers

he will be very gettable for a couple more weeks .. perhaps wait and see how his output progresses after 2 injury outs.

Ben

He's to cheap to ignore and at 450k there's no risk in picking him. If you don't pick him up and he gets back to old form, unlikely you'll stay in the top 1%

chris

everyone will bring him in and personally i can't see him going big for atleast another 1-2 weeks.. i've moved up to 300th in the ranks atm and that is without the popular players.. personally i can't see rockliff pumping out top 8 midfielder "esk" scores for a while..

i got to 300th by avoiding the trend, has worked for some and not for other players..
didn't get bontempelli, instead got goddard
didnt get t.mitch instead got buddy

and this week instead of getting rockliff (i already have beams which discourages me from getting 2 players from a side that won't win too many games) i am going dangerfield

Swans2012

There’s times to avoid the crowd and times to go with the flow. For me rockliffs a flow moment, I think you just go with it. But stick to your gut….then you’ve only got yourself to blame lol

Wheels1987

with a BE of 79. Should he pull out a 120 point week he wont go up that much. everyone is getting him this week and if he does dominate you will lock in a loss against the rest of the SC community. should he pull out a 80-105 point game, then you havent really lost out and you have one more week of SC data to analyse. that said i think like Titch last week, rocky is a must. just think about it… rocky.. at this price… SC Xmas is something we never get, but this is the closest present we will get from SC

MC

RYAN “you’re killing me” GRIFFIN

Who has him, what are you doing with him?

Keep him whole season? Cut him loose?

Assume he misses one week.

They need to get Lepptisch down there to have a stern chat to him.

Sam Loy

I've got other fish to fry this week.
And I'll think I'll hold on to him until I've got full premo team.
Then he's the first to go.
Or I may rage trade him to Rockliff next week.

MC

lol, he is destined to be rage traded at some point. He’s like that disappointing child of the family. How long can we pretend to love him for.

He stays for now, cant wait to disown him though.

CJay

I trade Griffen out on a Monday as it makes me feel better.
Then reverse trade on Thursday after teams are announced to concentrate on what's more important.

r2d2

I have done that twice just out of anger !!! Haha ,, then placed him back in my team

randomcliche

bhahaha. Love it. ๐Ÿ™‚

MC

Ha, it actually soothes the anger for a few days.

derek

keeping him. He is a premium player. Unless he gets injured and is out for 3weeks +

MC

Is he though? Is he really..

r2d2

I want too have him when he pumps out consistent 130s … It will happen surely

SuperCoach kid

Needs to be held, the bloke can play and can score.
I know the week I trade, is the week he puts out a 150+

You picked him for a reason, keep him

throttlefinger

Good point although the reason may be that he was a way to bring Gaz as protection if he was truly healed. Some are keeping him on the bench, which is fair enough.

Premium mids keepers should not be this up and down. Defs we have that tolerance. Mids is the engine room. Would say it will be very unlikely that he gets 105+ average.

Agree with Lek. It's not a sideways as much as it is an upgrade. Griff is on his way down in his career. Rockliff on his way up. Toss him if he's the worst of your problems.

Rocksta

I know how you feel MC.

Problem is he is capable of premium scoring and as such I’m going to keep him until I have at least achieved full premo ( estimated at around rd 13).

If he hasn’t improved his average to 100 by then, he’s Gone!!!!!!
Anyhow, I’ve got Nic Nat and I reckon he’ll be rage traded before the Griff Dog

MC

He would be great as a bench player and use the emergency loop hole, to get this mythical 130+, and skip the weekly bleeding.

It is just going to be a struggle to get full premium without making a few tough calls on the 400k players.

Ive got nic nat and boak… and danger, between the 4 of them its a nightmare.

Anyways interesting to hear what everyone is doing with him, consensus seems to be too hold onto him.

Check back in after the bye rounds

Wheels1987

i dont have him.
but if you do i say HOLD

i went with Andrew Swallow, coz i thought the kangas would be pushing for top 4. and i thought as a POD from Griffen Swallow was a sure thing. he is killing my team, but we must HOLD our fallen premos.

Hazey

I’ve got Swallow floating about too… What ate you thinking with his hand injury listed as 1-3 weeks?

@wheels_1987

i had a look on the North Melbourne website and Swallow gave an interview.
he has had surgery on Monday and he reckons he should definetly be right by next week, so a 1 week absence. PLUS kangas have a sunday game so im holding

Jezza

How bloody annoying is he!!! I'm holding him, just holding out for that one game of the year he will go mental

3. votes

was thinking, Ryan griffen to Beams and Lumumba to Rockliff via dpp toughts? better options for beams not worried about cash??

mcleal10

Beams is a fine pick. I think the trades are fine.

Wheels1987

hold the prince
hold griffen
get beams
get rocky

James

Hi Community,

Thoughts on this trade,
Cam Elllis Yolmen to Rockliff and Lonie to Lambert. Will end up having 280k in the bank after trade.
I Have Miller, Saad and Krakouer as only other rookie midfield options that I could trade if you don't think Yolmen is the best option. Or even Griffen but thinking should just hold this week.

Appreciate your thoughts

derek

Lambert?? why would you consider him?

CEY has plenty more cash to make, hold him. You must have someone else to trade, or swing lonie to mid to trade him to Rocky

Jackson

for a mid fwd swing with Krakouer

Murray

Who is the better long term prospect between Parker, Rockliff or Mitchell ?

mcleal10

Lomg term would be Parker and Rockliff. Parker will defeintely be in the top 5 forwards this year, where Rockliff may just miss out.

Christo

Parker isn’t a fwd. he’s a mid.

Donavan

Parker is only eligible in the mid-field this year. Still a valid selection, but he is a mid.

Pat

Parkers only a midfielder this year, might want to reconsider him

randomcliche

T Mitchell or S Mitchell? Doesn't matter though both are worse than Parker and Rocky who are both close. But Rocky is cheaper so heaps better value.

mcleal10

Got two trade possibilities this week.
Should I trade Vandenberg to Gray and M.Clark to Rockliff?
I have thought hard about the rockliff trade and I'm still uncertain if it is good.

Traderlyf

those are very good trades IMO

Girdle

Two rookies out, two keepers in. Perfect!

Wheels1987

amazing trades
do it

General Soreness

Lock those trades in right now.

conor

Rockliff to griffen, swallow or cripps

derek

I see swallow has broken his thumb, out for about 3 weeks.

CJay

Great vid as always Lek.
Think you have convinced me to get Rocky in this week rather than waiting to next.
Taking another look at it,T.Rockliff $447k. Wow pay 450k,,, keep the change thanks.

Sam Loy

A trading strategy question, community.

There’s a couple of players I missed out before R1 that I think I should go after (Goldstein and Fyfe).
Although at the moment they seem to be just about at their ceiling price.
I could afford one of them this week and another next week.

Or is it more important to pick up fallen premiums (i.e. Jacobs and Rocky)?
Buy the gold from Collins St, or go prospecting in Ballarat?

Wheels1987

i cant believe you dont have Fyfe! that hurts.. i wouldnt worry about Goldstein, however if you dont have Fyfe, i would copncentrate on building your team without him. He is mega expensive. If you can build your whole DEF MID and FWD line without Fyfe, then look to upgrade your final M8 position to Fyfe i would encourage this.

The Ranger

I'm in the same boat Sam.
I have the chance to grab him this week by going one up and one down but have chosen to get Rocky and Parker rather than Fyfe and a rookie.
The thinking being that the quicker I get to a full team of keepers the better.
Still hoping to get Fyfe at some point around the byes but right now the reduced price premos are too good to miss.

Wheels1987

yea i like your thinking. 2 premos = more scoring output than a ultra premo + rookie

General Soreness

Sam love the analogy.

Rocky and Fyfe are musts and should be your priority. For scoring upside go Fyfe this week, for $$ benefit go Rocky.

If you do not have Goldy he will be about 30K cheaper either next week or week after, or you could jump on Sauce or Mummy now.

Chrissovan

i personally think it’s a good week to fix an issue with your team.

For me, it’s lumumba- I’m going straight to either murphy or tmac.

Then I’ll upgrade vanderberg to rocky

Wheels1987

hold the prince. DEF line upgrades are a last concern

Girdle

Agree on all points there, Lekdog. Rockliff a must-have but doesn’t have to be this week. Still a fair price next week.

No word on Josh Glenn? He’d be on the bubble if named

Ryan

Hold Oxley or trade him for Thurlow?

Ryan

Or Lever

Wheels1987

hold the Ox

General Soreness

Trade him either this week or next.

throttlefinger

Excellent, excellent. excellent!

$5 to the Bowler Fund!

throttlefinger

Your list of talents continue to amaze me, Lek.

Liam

My trades this week:

Swallow to Selwood
Vandenberg to Rockliff

Thoughts??

Girdle

Swallow injured and under performing, Vabdenberg has peaked. Bringing in two keepers, all good!

Sarah

Awesome trades!

Wheels1987

i have Swallow ( if your talking about the kangas player )
i say hold on him

@TheNoLanguage

I wouldn't be holding Swallow, could be out for a couple and isn't SC relevant this year with his happy handball style. Good trade.

SuperCoach kid

Prince/Macintosh > lever
Vdb > rocky

Good trades? Will leave me 330k to double upgrade next week

Georgie

What to do with Lonie, if he is named or if he isn’t?

Girdle

Trade him out. BE of 100 and 80+ next week means he’s dead weight.

BKW

He will likely miss this week – but agree you might want to trade before he plays next game as his value has peaked (unless you are keeping him for sub cover)

General Soreness

Thank him for his service and say goodbye.

Matt

oxley to lever
vandenburg to rockliff, thoughts on this trade ?

BKW

I’ve got the same trades pencilled in

Definitely doing VBerg –> Rocky (no brainier)

Then strongly considering Oxley/Brown –> Lever

Trading Oxley to Lever would leave around $280k next week for Selwood and possibly another upgrade, most likely in defence

Trading Brown would leave only $150 in the kitty (but gives me a better on field player this round assuming saad is still out)

Thoughts community??

Traderlyf

Mcintosh -> Yeo
Sloane -> Rockliff

Wanted to go sloane to JPK but was 10k off…

Girdle

McIntosh – Thurlow &
Sloane – JPK ??

Rocky will still be affordable next week

Traderlyf

i really like the looks of Yeo thats my problem :/

Swans2012

I like the Yeo and rocky option, Yeo better proposition than Thurlow imo.

Mister_Spock

G'day community, had a horror run with my mids this year! I need to get Rocky in and would love to squeeze in Parker if possible, but struggling to work out who to trade out:

MIDS: Fyfe, Beams, Sloane, Griffen, Bont, Rich, Cripps, Miller (Vandenberg, CEY, McKenzie)

$127,200 in the bank

Easy option is Sloane > Rocky and Griffen > Parker, leaves me with $138K still in the war chest.

The dilemma I have is that ideally I need to ditch Vandenberg as he's dropping in value, and I'm reluctant to get rid of Sloane and sideways trade for another premo.

I'm $400 short of being able to go Griffen>Rockliff and Vandenberg>Titch! I know a lot of people will be bringing him in, but perhaps Kieren Jack is a better option for less (lets me hang onto Sloane for another week until his injury time becomes clearer)

SHOAL option for me is Sloane > Rockliff and Vandenberg > Titch

SHARK = Sloane > Rockliff and Vandenberg > Treloar OR Kieren Jack

Thoughts?

Girdle

Griffen and Vandenberg are the two that leap out. If Yolmen doesn’t come up soon then he’s an option as well

Girdle

Sloane and Vandenberg!! My mistake.

Wheels1987

can you put the BONT into your FWD line and upgrade a FWD rookie to Rocky??

Mister_Spock

Potentially, but I only have Tarrant, Clark and Krakouer available to upgrade and they haven't fattened enough for me to be able to afford Rocky and they're all cheaper than Vandenberg at this stage.

Leaning towards Sloane > Rockliff and Vendenberg > Treloar as POD

Feeling like I've missed the boat on Titch, and as Lekdog says, his security is a worry.

Alternatively I can just afford Griffen > Rockliff and Vendenberg > Kieren Jack

Wheels1987

i suggest culling Clarke. He hasnt fattened up 100% but with his personal issues and injury probability i would cull him. and putting Bont in your Fwd line and turning Clarke into a Premo is a LOCK move.

Then you could swap Vandenburg for Rocky and hold Sloan for one more week. imagine if he comes back??? or, you just trade Sloan next week and you havent lost anything.

either way i reckon you should hold Griffen.

so many options

Mister_Spock

Thanks Wheels – would love to cull both Clark and Vandenberg, but don't have the cash to upgrade to two premos, even with Rocky's price drop. Need all of my spare salary cap and Vandenberg just to get Rocky.

Wheels1987

Hey LEKD0G
its
Daniel WHELAN
@wheels_1987

more of a facebook user but just getting my head around the twitterverse now.

Donavan

What's up with Kade Simpson, I selected him from the start, and was convinced he would be a top 6 defender. Up until a few weeks ago I still believed he would be top 6.

Do we know how long Simpson will be out?, and does the community consider him a possible top 6 defender ?

Thanks

Girdle

Once again he’s listed as ‘test’. Wait for selection on Thursday night

Harrison

he will be back this round, says on the cartlon website

Wheels1987

i would hold

shezza

I have traded Cripps and Vandenberg for Parker and Rockliff.i still have EOY so hoping he gets picked. I have Ablett and one other premium mid to get in or after the byes

Wheels1987

looking good!

shezza

I have Hogan and Salem on my fwd bench too. Will hold until a fwd rookie comes in.i need to calm down and save trades

Wheels1987

like

Glorin

I personally have never picked him and don't consider him top 6 this year. Don't know if it is based on my dislike for Carlton or the fact that just about every player at Carlton is soft And I don't rate them. Have Cripps and his play one week, gun, to miss the next with a bit of a sore calf, late out spud, demonstrates how they work at Carlton.

Ethan

Those who have him including me have seen him rise 220k

SC Virgin

Isn’t that the biggest price to rise of any rookie? If not it is close and he is going at 100.think I may hang onto the extractor a bit longer.

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Are we trading out Oxley this week? Says he will lose cash the next couple of weeks?

Ethan

BE of 95 this week his big scores have dropped out of his 3 week average. If you can upgrade do it but dont downgrade, its not worth harming your scoring potential if you just want cash

AMERICANMAGPIE1

yeah If I trade him out I was going to upgrade! But I think I need to dump Hunt first?

BKW

Yep exactly – could downgrade oxley to lever but it hurts scoring potential in short term – would need another upgrade in defence next week to offset the loss (although saad will be back by then)

Pros and Cons either way

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Yeah….I have Saad to was hoping he would be back this week!

General Soreness

He has done his job, should be gone either this week or next, depending on your trading options and strategy.

Wheels1987

i reckon he will make his BE this week. Hold

Swans2012

Yep will score this week I reckon, maybe not break even but close

Wheels1987

Collingwood playing Gold Coast. If he is gunna break 100pt + hopefully its this week

Jim

I have Hogan, Salem, Lonie, McIntosh, Vandenberg and Oxley who I'm thinking need to go soon. I was going to go Vandenberg and Salem to Lever and a premo mid. Who should I get? Already have Fyfe, JPK, Parker, Selwood Beams. Then next week it's Cripps to Rocky and hopefully downgrade Lonie to someone. Are these good trades? Or have I traded out the wrong rookies this round?

nathan

Salem will be out this week so wont lose any cash this week
Oxley and vandenberg for me

Tony

Get Pendlebury and you're looking good.

Leon

Should I trade out Oxley, K Mac or Clark this round? Or should I hold all. And who should I be bringing in?

Thanks

nathan

Yiull need to trade oxley mate
B/E over avg so he’ll need to go

AMERICANMAGPIE1

I think you should keep clark….I think he has good game against Carlton

Wheels1987

Clarke

keep Ox and Kmac

good job sec and having a nice warm body on the DEf line is crucial.

nathan

Possible trades this week are

Griffen and oxley out with rocky and docherty in with 9k left

Or salem and oxley out with treloar and glenn/lever/strech in with 150/200k left
Thinking of keeping griff till the byes or at least next week
Just not sure yet
Think trade 2 coz it opens the trade potential in coming weeks
With saad and cey most likely back this week id be happy to have glenn on the pine and not play for a week or two but thats only if he has a half decent J/S
Whats some thoughts?

General Soreness

The idea of keeping Griff is a solid one, but I think Rocky is a must, so any strategy that can allow both to happen whilst maintaining a bit of a bank is very sound.

Tophawk

I like option one by a country mile. Rocky at 447K is a no brainer for Griffen. That is the trade I have made this week. Griffen as far as I am concerned is a liability and a cause of stress in your team. Just too inconsistent. I like Oxley to Docherty as well. Value for money move I reckon. I had a bit more cash and went Salem to Liam Picken. Both Brisbane and Carlton have byes in round 11. Most teams need a few extra players out in round 11 to reduce the amount of guys out in round 12 and 13.

These trades could potentially be "bye" friendly for you too.

Cheers

Tony

anybody considering Stevie J????

AMERICANMAGPIE1

No way…..I wouldnt touch him he is a MRP magnet and was lucky he didnt get reported last week

BKW

Not for me – too inconsistent, coming towards end if career, too prone to brain fades

Wheels1987

i was, but cant ignore rocky

AMERICANMAGPIE1

I'm thinking of Trading Hunt for Yeo? Is this a good trade….thoughts please?

General Soreness

It is sideways, its risky, Yeo on the up with role change, if you think he can maintain a 90-95+ average for the remainder of the year, pull the trigger.

Although consider that you are only $40K of some proven defenders.

AMERICANMAGPIE1

What about Thurow???

AMERICANMAGPIE1

I'm only think Yeo and Thurow because their averages are much higher/DPP's and making money and Hunt has just bleed money since week 3?? Either I trade Oxley who I think I wanna wait a week he might do well against GCFC and probably wont lose to much?

General Soreness

Thurlow very similar to Yeo but has been more consistent against some better teams and with Duncan out more midtime JS. Thurlow more tempting at the price.

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Hmmmmm ok Thanks! Duncan is suppose to be out like 10-12 weeks too. Just might gamble with Thurow??? Hunt isnt doing me any good!

AMERICANMAGPIE1

And Tigers play @ Port this weekend and Port will be on a mission I think?

Wheels1987

dont go Yeo !!!

General Soreness

because…………………..

Wheels1987

He is not a proven SC player
He is DEF line and we should be looking to finalise our FWD and MID lines as a Priority
and
If, for whatever reason, you feel you really need to upgrade in DEF there are so many better options

General Soreness

Agreed.

Counter argument is though…

Role Change since round 4.
Since round 4 going at 110 average, 98 if you take out his 146
Attended 58% of bounces since round 4 up from 8% from rounds 1-3, 2nd only to Priddis

Whilst I am not bringing him in because it messes with my trading strategy, those considering him could do worse.

As I said in my original reply for only a few $$ more some proven defenders are available and I would prefer people chose them.

If Yeo is still pumping out good scores regularly I will be happy to pay top $ for him later.

Wheels1987

yea you cannot argue with those stats and he defineltly has a role change.
i would prefer the following players as they have dropped in price and represent great value

S.Hurn
J.Newnes
J.Gibson
M.Johnson
S.Burgoyne
M.Hurley or
R.Murphy

But thats the beauty of this game and this community.
so many options and opinions.

General Soreness

Agreed, it is why we love it.

r2d2

Last week I got Yeo and Parker for lumumba and rich , worked out nicely

Harry

I'm putting Yeo in this week and influenced by my best mate who supports Eagles. Yeo has taken over Wellingham's midfield role and apparently Simpson loves him. I liked him pre season and tossed up between Geary and Yeo and chose the wrong option. My bad. Backs have been unreliable all year and for his price think it's a solid option

@wheels_1987

i hope for your sake that you can look back and laugh at me for disagreeing

but i like your ball

you have big ball and if you can justify any of your selections then its a good selection

jacob

Take the punt if you feel he'll be top ten defender. He has huge upside and I'm convinced he'll play a heap of midfield throughout the year. I'm taking the punt even tough I know it's a risk. Just remember those who were Tom McDonald owners in round 1 were called stupid, sometimes you just got to go against the crowd and back your decision.

Swans2012

Yep, I reckon worth a stab. Everyone putting defense on the back burner means if you pick one of these guys (Yeo Thurlow) and get it right you could really pull some points off those in front.

hoc90

My midfield is pretty much settled (barring serious injury), one spot left… Selwood or Rockliff?

Geniunely can't split them. #help

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Selwood he plays Carlton this week I think he goes off the hook!!! Think you can wait a week on Rocky!

Tophawk

If you only have one spot left, then I would go Rockliff. Lions have won two in a row, Rocky is laying plenty of tackles again which tells me his ribs are coming good and at 447K it has to be the bargain of the year at a be of 80 this week.

Just my take

Wheels1987

rocky
i have selwood and he is killing me this season

General Soreness

Great vid again Lek, which could only be improved by a bowler hat!

Wheels1987

or a band-aid on the face – nelly style

Andrew

Ox or Lumumba out for Tmac?

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Lum

Wheels1987

why upgrade you DEF line now??
get your MID and FWD lines right first

Hally

Looking to bring Tmac in for mcintosh, but would it be better to bring in a cheaper option like Yeo, or Thurlow so I have money for a trade from nicnat to Goldstein next week?

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Not sure I have evaluated Yeo and Thurow as well and some say no …..so I'm kind of torn what to do? Tmac sucks up a lot of cash on a trade but he going to be a lot higher in a few week.

murray

I have TBC as R2 who is not giving me enough output. This week should I fix up my ruck problem first before going to Rockliff?

mye two options this week are
1. trade out TBC and bring in Jacobs (also need to trade out vandenberg for Dale)

OR

2. trade out vandenberg and heeney for Rockliff and Glenn/ or Dale

Which is the priority at the moment? I could wait for rockliff because I dont think he will go up all that much this week whilst I think Jacobs will

BillyT

I have the same dilemma this week. I'm thinking you can wait another week to see how Rockliff scores. He could go large against Essendon, but he will still be good value to pick up next week.

I would say Jacobs, B/E is 55.

murray

I kind of agree with this

JMG

Can you swing TBC to fwd line as cover as Lek suggested (if u have a ruck fwd rook on ruck bench).
Ie trade Hogan/ Salem for Jacobs sub TBC forward

murray

understand about TBC but dont have salem or hogan to trade out. In order to generate the necessary cash I would have to trade out Ellis Yolman, Saad or Cripps. They all have a bit $ more to make

Sana

Just want to raise a few thoughts about Tom Rockliff.

Obviously he's had a tough season injury wise, but just wondering people's thoughts on whether he'll reach last years lofty standards (or even full premo mid level) if he regains his health. I'll only compare his last two games as before that he has had injuries to deal with etc.

He's tackling like last year with 9 in each of the last 2 (avg 9.1 last year) so that doesn't play into his lower scores – and means he's not holding back. Last season he averaged 32 disposals – in the last 2 games he's managed 19. This means he needs to gain 13 disposals (approx half kicks and half handballs) every game to reach last years level. Is he going to get anywhere near last years disposals with Beams, Rich, Christensen and others now lining up for a slice of the pill?

I agree at 447K he's a good buy, but not sure he'll be averaging anywhere near 132. But will he average the approx 110 form here on to make him a top 8 midfielder? Maybe he'll manage a few more touches once he's fully fit (says he's playing with some pain from the lung injury). But if he's not at that 110+ standard I'm wary of bringing him in… the communities thoughts would be much appreciated!

@wheels_1987

Get Him
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Tony

Like many others, I am very confident Rocky will get back to his normal possessions very soon. Rich has been there for years and is a seagull – has never affected Rocky's possessions. Bundy is a forward and he's lazy, will have no impact on Rocky. Beams is a machine, but so was Redden until last year – no incremental effect on Rocky's possessions. There's no certainties in SC, but Rocky is brilliant value on the balance of probabilities.

He doesn't have to average in the top 8 mids over the season, only for the period that you have him.

Sarah

This week's trade plans:

Griffin to Rockliff (I'm so over Griffin and agree with Lekdog that he's not a premium anymore and that this trade is now an upgrade)
Vandenberg to Glenn (if named – otherwise Lever)

Then next week the plan is:

Hogan to Dahlhaus/Martin
Cripps to Rance/Birchall

This will leave me with a very balanced team heading into the byes and a defence and forward swing set in the midfield.
Hopefully there's no major injuries or poor scores which will put a dent in these plans like last week!!

Other than picking off the odd rookie downgrade, I'll then be holding trades til the byes.

Sarah

And the spanner in the works has just arrived with Sinclair being relegated back to the rookie list!! Might have to trade him now instead of Griffin to keep bench cover… bugger.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Nice to see someone thinking along the same lines re rance/birch. ๐Ÿ™‚

Mister_Spock

Sloane > Rocky and Vendenberg > Treloar

OR

Griffen > Rocky and Vendenberg > Kieren Jack?

Kieren is cheaper and a safer option than Titch IMO

Danners16

1st, Sloane is out for a while

Jesse

Sloane – Selwood

&

Vandenberg – Rockliff

Or

TBC – Mummy (Ruck2)

Sloane – Rockliff

Thoghts please commuity..

Do not have quite enough for Vandy – Rockliff & TBC – Mummy

General Soreness

Option 2 for mine.

Jesse

Yeah that was my initial instincts. Bellchambers has done his dash.

Rick Grimes

Went to trade in Rocky, didn’t feel right. Tried Selwood, felt better. Then unexpectedly I went Heppell. Feels right, don’t know why, just gut feel. Am I wrong?

Sarah

I like Heppell. I have too many round 12 bye players though so will potentially be looking to pick him up after his bye.

JMG

Agree

Brent

Thoughts on potential downgrades community? I've decided that Rockliff is coming in for vandenberg this week but in order to do that I also have to downgrade a rookie. Which of these options do you think would be best

OPTION 1: Lonie – Dale
OPTION 2: Newton – Glenn
OPTION 3: Lever/Dick – Oxley/McIntosh

All thoughts appreciated

Danners16

Option 1, Lonie has a very high breakeven

Brent

Cheers mate

bUCKET__

heh, 'lever dick'

@wheels_1987

You are going to have to wait until Thursday night teams, see whos in and out

Jacko

Wasn’t planning on keeping swallow the whole season

Do I trade him to rocky or another premium now

BKW

Yep swap him for Rocky

Danners16

Won't be seeing him around for a while now so a Rocky swap would be good

SideBySidebottom

Maybe Cox or Dick for Swallow.

Stevie

Hey community,

Good stuff as always lekdog. This week im taking a closer look at bringing in Selwood instead of rocky, still want to see one more good game from rocky and next week could be straight swap for cripps, thoughts?

General Soreness

Solid plan.

@wheels_1987

if you have the warchest then go for it
i have selwood and he is bleeding my cash all over the supercoach floor

but i love him and wouldnt have it any other way.

If Rocky scores 110 even then he wont gain a HUGE amount of value so if you can, its worth paying that cash for another week of data

i wish i had a bigger warchest, but i dont so im getting him this week (fingers crossed)

Gareth

Thoughts on Stevie J as a short-term cash generator? Is he past it or is he more reliable than Rocky in putting in a couple of weeks of good scores to get to a super premium before the business end of the SC season?

General Soreness

Only bring him in if you see him as a keeper. Rookies generate cash better.

@wheels_1987

i think last week was the week to get him.
better options now, but as always.. if you can justify it, then do it