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I forgot to trade Tarrant in, big loss?
Missing out on a fifa bit of money but I don't think he can mee the scores up. Rather krakour
You should be able to still trade him in, unless the player you were looking to trade him for has already played (if so ignore this message)
Yeah get him in for someone like Salem as he is looking like one of the must have cash cows this season.
yes.
sorry to say
First trade needs to be him. Forget another week and who knows, you could be paying another 100k for him. Think of trading for Hogan as he's flatlined almost, but whatever you do, t's this week or never
I did the same thing too Adam. Thought the game started at 7.40 and went to trade him in about 7.25 but game had started. Really stuffed up my strategy for the next two weeks. Fuming!
What do I do with juddy jock?
Hold until you can upgrade him, it's what i'm doing. Judd-Rocky looking mighty fine in a few weeks
With Rockliff’s 0 how much can we expect him to go down in price this week
a lot
Approx $150k
Rocky should go down $123,000 and have a break even of 290 but the multiplier that CD uses is normally changed about round 5 which will make a difference to the changes in price and B/E.
Wait and see but that would make his price $586,000 with a B/E of 290 on the current figures.
Cheers.
Pick 3 to play out of tarrant, hogan, salem and bellchambers
salem bench
Tarrant and TBC, only because the Dees are playing Freo.
Tarrant Hogan Bellchambers. Some people hate Bellchambers, but he's consistent and a good choice if you need a ruck
Parker…
thought he had a good game today but supercoach wise he is really underperforming this year
Wet weather didn't help. He was on 36 at QT before it started raining
yeah think he's gotta go. TMitch made his case today and would be unlucky to lose his spot now.
As Jock said, everyone will be screaming his name in two weeks.
Competition will be fierce.
It just hasn't been Parkers year so far, he keeps showing signs he's about to have a huge one and then little things go against him. I'm keeping the faith, his run of bad luck has to end sooner or later.
Yeah im with you. im sure he will get better. Just hoping its sooner then later. maybe he is waiting for most people to trade him out. Then will go big for just a few of us that kept him
If you’ve held til now then hold!
Last mid spot – Vandenberg, krakour or Ellis yolman? Leaning towards Vandenberg.
krakoeur. CEY and Vandenberg have already gone up in price quite a bit. Krak will give you more cash in the end
for Money= Krakour. But if you have enough the go towards EYC. Won't make as much cash but a safer choice for points
How about those Doggies! Bonti trade #noregret
I know we all hate sideways trades BUT is anyone thinking of trading Stefan Martin in for say a Maric or a Nic Nat etc? I know I am. Martin for me was the buy of 2014, picked him up on the bubble and he absolutely tore it up for the rest of the year playing as the solo ruck. With Leuy dropped it looks like he's about to do it all over again in 2015. So very very tempting…
Im trying not to touch my rucks unless they are injured. I have NicNat and TBC. They arnt setting the world on fire, But so far are injury free. Guess this doesnt help
I know it's playing with fire, but still so tempting.
Leuy will be back though so wasted trade imo.
If you want to trade either of those guys it MUST be for Goldy.
I already have Goldy
Keep faith in your premiums
trade to stefan asap for me
Lewis or Fyfe for captain ? Does anyone have any thoughts ?
Probably Fyfe as he could run amok against the Dees tomorrow. Lewis has struggled against North and at Etihad but history is only a guide at best.
So don't sue me if it all goes horribly wrong! 🙂
Was thinking that the Dees might all tag Fyfe, Lewis has had a lot of possesions but a lot of them not worth much. I wont sue you but im thinking Lewis. was going to go Boak last week but chickened out. History then tells me not to be chicken and go for it. Fyfe is due for a bad week. it seems this year that all premiums have bad games. Im thinking its fyfe's turn to put in a stinker. There is no method to my madness, But hey. no pain no gain
Fyfe will be a popular pick – Lewis is averaging 36-37 disposals a game this year but hasn't been scoring well. If he can clean up his efficiency he may go off.
Fyfe will be the safer option though.
Gee I hope you went Fyfe.
Tough call, it comes down to whether you think it's more likely Lewis can lift his DE% this week or whether Fyfe can break the Vince tag.
For what it's worth I moved the C from Fyfe to Sloan.
Agree Sloan dog will go big this week, at worst 110
I need a bit more than that, my opponent VC'd Pendles.
Would be a big effort…he copped a battering last week against the Doggies. But hope you're right….he's in my team.
Normally i'd go Fyfe, but against the dees i have a bad feeling they might all tag him
Josh Glen is looking good, he is a Gold Coast midfielder playing his first game and is currently on 78 SC points at 3 quarter time
I have Oxley on the bench as my emergency. Have Clancee pearce and Geary still to play. Who should I bench to get Oxley's score. Would be swapping with Goddard
Pearce
Thx for that. will do that
Pearce could be a tagger
COMMUNITY I AM IN URGENT NEED OF EMOTIONAL SUPPORT, I was going to trade in Tarrant for Lamb just before the game started to make sure Tarrant didn't get injured but forgot the time and got locked out so I am now stuck with Lamb and am likely going to miss out on 100k+, any messages of support would be much appreciated
LOL… Sorry but unlucky
Tough break Michael. Up side is you still have a trade in the kitty.
I feel ur pain lewis gone shaun higgens isnt touching it
Hi Michael,
I feel very bad for you. But you have to be seriously "on the ball" in this comp.
Luckily it is early days. Dust yourself off, keep calm, and learn from it.
You have time to recover!
Cheers mate
Suck it up, get angry, and rip the heart out of next weeks opponent
You snoozed, you loozed. Suck it up crybaby.
Was that supportive enough 🙂 ?
Michael I wouldn't stress to much mate, you should have ample rookies so trading in another rookie means one less trade, in the next 3 to 8 few weeks you'll be using on average around 9 trades, especially during the bye rounds.
I deliberately didn't trade in Tarrant this week due to his injury prone history even knowing he would increase $100k and when you consider each trade is effectively worth $150k to $200k It wouldn't surprise me if he gets injured in a week or too.
The guy is a band aid as soon as it starts to peel he'll fall apart. I'm in the top 1% with 27 trades left and it wont be long before I start doing a crouching one by trading my A$$ off.
Good luck
Stay Strong
I find strength in the bible
The jock reynolds magazine bible
ITS ON AT ETIHAD TONIGHT. Looks like the Hawks following in clarko's footsteps. We'll be sweating on Lewis and hodge at the MRP for striking. Not good at all!
The Lewis one didn't look good at all, you'd think he'd get at least 2 weeks for it
At the very least FFanatic. As if we didn't need for sc dramas.
*more
Hodge should get 4+ ! Swinging deliberate elbow to the jaw. Lewis also very late and swinging arm at nothing but head = weeks imo.
I needed a break, don’t have either of those guys.
Lewis will get 4 weeks minimum and with a guilty plea he might get 3 weeks at the very BEST but could easily be 4+ weeks and the same with Hodge. There is very little consistency with the tribunal so who knows what will happen.
Lewis is gone, sorry to those who traded him in.
Had him from day dot but very ordinary from him.
Poor form from Lewis. Out for 4 I reckon.
Yeah it poor from Lewis. At least it was in a contest.
What about Hodge though. Elbowed Swallow in the jaw at a stoppage.
It looked like a cage fighting move. He might be in more trouble than Lewis …
Dodged a bullet there
Lewis tries to take Goldstein out, how many weeks? Thoughts … Surely this is not what AFL is trying to promote … #goneski
2 weeks, if lucky.
Probably 3
I reckon 1 for Lewis, reckless and low impact. Hodge might go for 1 or maybe 2 weeks, got him with his forearm and medium impact. Taylor I reckon will get 1 as well for his punch to Swallows ribs and Stratton should be ok.
Good Call Derek.
You’re dreaming. Must be a Hawks fan.
I'm a passionate Hawks fan – What he did was unacceptable. 2-3 weeks is about right In my opinion.
1 week are you a Hawk supporter? NO chance in HELL… 3 Weeks minimum BOTH…
You take an uncontested mark on a lead and then go back and kick the goal…. how many SuperCoach points?
How long is a piece of string? There are many factors taken into consideration regarding this situation. What stage of the game and how close the game is etc. Was it a match winning goal? Nothing is set in concrete as far as this scoring is concerned it's all about the influence on the game at the time and at the end of the game.
Cheers.
can we trade griffen out now? Starting to really annoy me now
tell me about it
Will be able to go Griffin to Rocky in a few weeks
I got rid of him a few weeks ago and upgraded him to an elite. Could see he wasn't going to be anything close to a keeper mid so most coaches will need to trade him at some point during the season if they want a truly elite midfield. It's only a matter of when and how big a priority it is for individual coaches.
Love to Tyler, he’s really really annoying me but I have Lewis so need to hold him while Lewis is out for 4 weeks!
Could be worse, you might have rage traded him to Treleor for example 🙁
Depending how long before Rocky is back playing but he could quite easily be sub $500k 3 or 4 weeks after he gets back. I feel like im on BARGAIN HUNT…
surely we have to trade Griffen out now…
him and parker really stinking my midfield up
Griffin is under the microscope after tonight.
Agree with Parker, but still think Griffen will come good.
shit call
griffin yes
Parker hold. Wet weather today and gathered a lot of the pill. Just unlucky it was wet weather and had quite a few clangers
You would have to expect that a true champ of the game could play in the wet weather after all it is a winter sport.
Never had either and won't be getting either of them in my team.
At least Parker has been fairly consistent and close to having some big scores, I think once he takes the step up he should pound out regular tonnes. Griff on the other hand is just a friggin roller coaster, don't know if I should get off or embrace the vertigo.
I feel sorry for James Kelly, he ruptured his testical
Griffin struggles to be a real on field leader IMO.
He started really well, and then faded as WCE got on top.
Even so, I still think this Ryan can lift. Although, pretty dissapointed with his 2nd half output.
That said,
Griffo in my side for another week.
I think he was about 42 at half time was ok, poor second half
So what are we all doing Griffen now? Is it worth trading him out in the coming week instead of upgrading a rookie into a premo?
Rookies showing up premos once again this week. Miller with 105, Oxley 148, and 86/85 for Cripps and Saad respectively. Meanwhile Parker and Lewis with 88, Swan with 85, Selwood 83, Maric 78, Franklin 76 and Griffen with 69. These rookies are starting to prove they should be named on our grounds not benches!
Vandenberg or Ellis-Yolmen on field?!?
CEY would be my tip.
It could be an ugly day for Dee players tomorrow if Freo bring their A game. I expect the Crows to lift collectively in the Showdown after last week's humiliation.
Had 13 play , I am currently sitting on 1412 (Captain yet to play). Would this be a good score considering the high scoring round? How are you travelling ?
I'm really hoping Gray doesn't play tomorrow. In 6 of my games my opponent has used Mitch Clark to loophole Pendles' VC score, but in doing so they've mostly left themselves with no extra bench cover in the forward line. I've had Krak on the bench ready to swing down for Gray planned all week. Fingers crossed.
Griff certainly providing a consistent roller coaster of scores.
70, 118, 77, 113 and then 69 tonight. On schedule to hit another ton next week perhaps?
What is up with J.Lewis scoring?? 117 on AFL website, yet a meager 88 supercoach?? Is it because he is not alex rance he gets points taken off by 'Chump Data'?
It's been like that all season mate. He's averaging over 135 in Dream Team scoring through the first 5 rounds and is the permacaptain of choice in that game by a long way. Tonight was nothing new.
Next time I'm going to pick a few players that Chump data have in their teams
Must have received the dirty player discount!
He also did sweet FA in the first half when the Hawks pushed out to a comfortable lead, maybe his efforts in the 2nd half were scaled accordingly. Still seems low considering his stats.
I think he had 14 touches in 4th quarter once game was over.
I was pretty happy with SMitch tonight, though he might have got more than he did
No
This year so far most premium selections of yester year are a joke. The ones going off are much younger and have little data to back up the performances of this years start but Iam losing confidence in Griffen, Dangerfield in my side
I know there is many more Premiums who are stinking it up with other teams too
Hi Cs, spoke last week. Currently ranked in top #100. Back your premo's unless injury or dropped e.g. Minson.
what to do with ryan griffen
Griffen and judd to Parker and Rockliff looking good in a few rounds
Fyfe or gray as captain? fyfe is due for a stinker but If go with gray and he doesn’t play I had VC on goldy so only 92 points
Fyfe is the captain of the ship.
I'd go Fyfe, only compounded by the Grundy VC
I thought Gray was carrying an injury?
Tom Mitchell is a gun. Conditions suited him today, Swans will have to keep playing him.
Yes.
Tom mitchell is back playing penetrating football.
Has to be seriously looked at trading in.
Watch next week
Yeah if his JS wasn't so darn iffy there would be plenty of coaches who would snap him up on the bubble in another week.
But even if he plays the next couple of games he could be on the outer again in another month so unless you've barely touched your trades this season there is just too much risk there for many.
suggest you watch Longmire's presser
was pretty under enamoured with his performance – not sure what Mitchell is doing wrong but there must be something Horse doesn't like.
When he gets it in traffic and just hoists it over his shoulder in hope rather than look for the handball out the back or side is what keeps him in the reserves and will do again. Too risky a pick for Supercoach. Otherwise he works tirelessly for the team and is tough as nails. The team needs him every wet weather game and against the really tough midfields imo.
Horse really doesn't like him eh.
Which combination gray krakouer or gray Vandenberg
Vandenberg for me
Need 2 of these three: CEY, VDB, Krak … Thinking it will be VDB who gets the chop due to tougher opponents in freo
VDB will stand up against Freo. I think Krak will struggle in the showdown.
Also chance of Krak to get the sub Vest with Ah Chee out. Even if not the starting vest he may be subbed off as theres a pretty talented Port squad playing
I'd play CEY and VDB. Also, if Krak cops the snot vest you're stuck with him…
thank … bit worried about freo as opponents but will back him in … he is a good player and hasnt let me down yet
I've had patience with Kolodjashnij, Newnes and Parker and will stick with them! But i'm fresh out of patience with Griffin. I'll take my chances on the "don't trade premos" rule. He looks nothing like a premo anymore.
I would be doing the same except I have Lewis 🙁
Me too kept the rest but Traded Griff 2 weeks ago for Martin as they were pretty much same price. Seemed like a mistake after last week but happy with that trade after this week. Martin is a keeper in the fwd line so swung him forward and moved Miller off the bench in the mid. Worked a treat this week. Sticking with Parker as he had bottomed out now and his price and scores will start heading north. That said went Mitchell over Parker last year and Parker over Hannas this year. Can’t get the bloods right.
What do i do with Minson? want to get him out this week and im thinking the downgrade to Grundy is an alright option
Thoughts community???
up grade trade to stefan asap for me
Minson will be back next week. Cordy got MURDERED in the ruck yesterday by Pike.
Cordy got murdered last week against Jacobs… Won't be surprised if Jong lines up as their ruck next week, 9 hitouts!
I went to Blicavs. Happy so far.
Looking for some community help.
My matchup comes down to:
Me: Neale, TBC, Brodie Smith and (one of Salem/Hogan/Krakour)
Him: Jacobs, Danger, Hogan and Salem
Not feeling too confident, but would love some help as to if I should play Salem, Hogan or Krak.
your in a bit of a pickle here
9 times out of 10 your opponent will out score you
Here's hoping this is the one time..
What's the point difference?
That's the big question as to play Krak or not.
Couple of points so it's a straight 4 v 4 contest now. I'm more likely to play one of the Melbourne lads in case Krak cops a vest. Just not sure over Hogan or Salem.
Just want to throw some names around to gauge others feeling’s on Harry Taylor and Bachar Houli regarding premium defence options. Both in isolation are making serious impact thus far IMO!
Cheers guys
Bachar Houli really looks to have lifted his game so ill be swapping kelly for him.
Was going to bring him in myself just unsure if the boat has sailed already
So play Hogan and Salem.
If you guys are even on points it just means Neale ,TBC and Smith have to outscore Danger and Jacobs.
If they all score 70 and the other 2 score 100 then you win.
P.S. Sorry if you lose.
I've only got one spot for Salem or Hogan. He's playing both.
So it's a case of picking whoever I think will score most from them two. But i'm confused…
@Juzzy, Are you Irish or just drunk. Have a good sleep tonight and then come back and read this again.
Maybe I am just suffering from old age and have trouble understanding some things.
Yep OldOcker,
A little from column A and a little from column B.
Sorry to Mystery. I didn't read the post correctly.
In answer to the initial question ….. Dunno, but gee Hogan looked mighty last week.
P.S. OldOcker,
I have read many of your posts on this site and would like to thank you for your insight and wisdom(s).
Good luck to your SC team this year.
Gee I must be getting old, I can't even remember writing that post it seems so long ago.
Probably still hung over from Anzac weekend.
Just thought I had better check my emails, I don't get many.
Long time since I have seen a young lad like Hogan, Very impressed by him and he will definitely be the last rookie traded out of my forward line.
Thanks for the praise mate you are welcome, Currently ranked low 800,s.
Hope you are going well too.
Cheers.
Lonie of TBC?
to start on field
tbc
He has, Gray, newnes, c Pearce, ibbo, n.browns score to count, Fyfe, Ellis yolmen, Salem.
What do I do his 600 points in front with 4 extra score, but I have 148, captains score, Fyfe and Sloane
Salem or Hogan?
hogan IMO
Fyfe or Sloane as Captain? Cheers
fyfe IMO but sloane could get back from last weeks performance
Thanks mate. My thoughts too sloane may go big due to last week being poor. But Fyfe may be the safest option.
Fyfe by a fair margin
Fyfe. I had Sloane as captain last week and that was agony. Fyfe will do the job.
vandenberg or krak on?
VBerg
is the bont the real deal?
another good score yesterday in the wet…
considering him for a sideways trade for Griffen
I have Bont and am happy with his output. Definately worth looking at. I also like the look of Tom Mitchell. Had a cracking game in the wet yesterday with 114 SC points. Not bad for his first game of the season. He is a bargain at $405K. I am seriously looking at him as a replacement for the under achieving Griffen. I might give Griff one more week to look at Mitchell next week before his price change.
Cheers
The conditions really suited Mitchell. He is good player. Have a look at him next week hopefully in dry weather
i wouldnt move bont into the midfield unless you have a plan to move him into the forward line soon
Player a) 33 disposals, 5 contested, 69% d.e, 8 marks, 4 tackles, 6 I50, 4 R50, 3 clangers, 1 goal
Player b) 29 disposals, 6 contested, 75% d.e, 7 marks, 4 tackles, 5 I50, 1 R50, 2 clangers 1 goal
Player a) Mitchell – 116sc
Player b) Lewis – 88 sc
Did you watch game? Lewis had 14 touches in last quarter after game was won. Mitchell had 10 in the first 15 mins. Big difference when they have their disposals.
I thought Mitchell’s score was low.
Very similar stats for both players, and yet a huge difference in the SC scores. 26 SC points. (Mitchell score 114 not 116)
The Supercoach game administrators do need to clarify exactly how points are allocated. We know points are awarded/deducted for specific onfield player actions, but it appears there are other "variables" used in determining a players final score. Based on the pure/similar stats between Lewis and Mitchell, I struggle to comprehend the 26 point difference in the players scores.
Perhaps I am missing something here. If anyone can shed some light on this often discussed player scoring issue, please let me know!!
Cheers
I’m a hawks fan and thought Lewis had a poor game and was lucky to get what he did, where I thought Mitchell should have scored more
Surely you understand the important times of a game. Lewis gets 3 clearances in last quarter can not be worth the same as say Langfords 3 centre clearances in the first quarter
All depends on what quarter too and if it was an important moment in the game or not. Heaps of factors make up the scores
J.Lewis – do we :
2 Weeks – keep him
3 Weeks – think about keeping or trading him based on Team Structures,Bench Coverage,Rookie Upgrades ect
4+ Weeks – trade him
I personally reckon he will get 3 ,Thoughts anyone ?
I think 1 week, it was reckless. It it was Miriam Impact he might get 2. Depends on Doc report
Medium impact
If he was going great guns SC scoring wise you'd keep him even if he was out for a month. But he's been racking up the possessions with decent DE and struggling to ton up which is a major concern and a mystery only Champion Data can answer.
In fact there is a whopping 25 point discrepancy between his Dream Team average of 135 and his Supercoach average of 110 in his first 5 games in 2015. In 2014 both his Supercoach and Dream Team averages were identical at 109 so there is definitely something fishy going on. This 'anomaly' is certainly making him more tradeable than would otherwise be the case.
It's like CD made some tweaks under the hood to the disposal scoring system in the offseason. It may also explain why so many of our premos have been so unreliable or disappointing in 2015 more so than any previous season I can remember. God knows what Jordo's scores will be like when he only gets 20 or 25 touches in upcoming games.
I think he will cop 3 and maybe 4. Not only was it reckless, it was bordering on intentional. If the MRP deems it to be as such, he will go for at least 3.
i still think it was reckless. it was very late, but i'm sure they will give him benefit of the doubt regards the intension. 1 maybe 2 weeks
its a pity, Hawks have a few soft games coming up, the type of games that Lewis loves and would have gone big
both me and my opponent have hogan on field, is it worth me bringing on lonie instead if my opponent is currently in the winning position?
If thats the only player you have left to play….yes definitely!
Swallow gets subed off at 3 qtr time with 68 points ends up with 83
You've gotta love this game! I'm sure it all makes sense to the CD guys. 😉
Its almost turning into a lottery!! Still love Super coach though. Lets hope the CD guys come out and clarify things at some point.
I hope so too getting very confusing although I did enjoy the extra points
Hey community,
No doubt we are looking to do some upgrades this week. It’s a tricky one as my rookies are performing so well. I considered going to Oxley to B Smith then he went bang.
I’ll likely trade Rich who doesn’t have much more money to make. Hanners and Sloane look like good options at the moment.
I’m not a fan of side ways trading but Griffins inconsistent scores are frustrating. I’ll hold him for one more week and see how he goes.
Yep. I agree with you. Oxley is such a bonus for our backlines at the moment. In fact so far a few others have done really well in my backline also. (Shaw 122 and Saad 85). Makes for a nice change!
If I had Rich I would look at moving him on as well. Keep an eye on Tom Mitchell as well. He played a great game yesterday in the wet. (114 SC). I am watching him closely next week. Griffin faded BADLY against the eagles last night. He started OK and then just was unsighted for the rest of the game. Very dissapointed. He is in the "last chance saloon" next week. A fallen premium is the target for me to replace Griffin. (Luke Parker, Selwood, JPK and even Gaz and Rocky later on)
Cheers
I really like stefan Martin and really want to upgrade to him
But concerned whether leuenberger will come into the side and impact his scores
Too much of a risk for mine. The Lions are tracking so badly it's impossible to predict what Leppa may do in the coming weeks. If and when Leuey comes back in that will put a dent in Martin's ceiling.