Patch’s Panic Room – Round 5
G’day community. Last week, our premiums were giving us headaches. This week, rookies are causing the anguish.
While it’s not unexpected, these boys had stepped up to fill significant voids in the absence of guns scoring well, and we had come to trust them.
But alas, Mitch Clark will miss. Heeney will miss. Whitecross is gone. So is Ahmed Saad for the Saints. We have to face the reality that these players will not be scoring 80 for us all year. The last crop of rookies is coming through. This is the crucial last grasp before bunkering down and conserving trades. Let’s get into round 5, community.
THE NEWS
Dane Swan and Robbie Gray – On top of our rookie news, Dane Swan spent the week in a moon boot and Robbie Gray didn’t train. Both have been listed and are expected to play, but I’m nervous. Set your forward emergencies. Possibly two of them if you can.
Brett the “Football? What’s Football?” Deledio – Same old. Missing again. Apparently will be playing next week, but we’ve heard that twice already this year and it’s round 5.
Mitch Clark – Clark has inflamed his left foot, which is not the one that has sidelined him for previous seasons. He also has a breakeven of -13, so has plenty of cash to make. He should be back next week, if not the week after. Hold.
Isaac Heeney – I’m personally torn on Heeney and as such will be keeping him. If you’ve got to give someone the chop, make it him. With Tom Mitchell in Sydney’s side Heeney might be relegated to the sub vest, but I’m holding him for a bit. Will play again, and soon.
Ahmed Saad and Brendan Whitecross –While not many have these two, they’ve been dropped and that’s bad news for rookies. This is bad news especially for Whitecross, as Hawthorn still have Lake and Frawley to come back into their defence. If you’ve got one of these two, I’d cut your losses and go to Tarrant, Krakouer or Jake Kelly down back.
David Swallow & Nick Malceski – not just content with ruining their averages for the year, Swallow and Malceski seem to have decided if the linchpins of their midfield – Gary Ablett and Jaeger O’Meara – aren’t going to do any work, they’re not either. They’re out of the team for extended periods. Hit the T button. Good news for Adam Saad, Touk Miller and those of you who held Kolodjashnij.
THE PATCH-UP
If you’re looking to patch up your side this week – downgrade. We are seeing some juicy premiums dropping in coming weeks – JPK, Rockliff, Selwood and co. – and we will need the cash to jump to them. So if you have dead wood you need to remove – I’m looking at you, Brett Goodes – go down. Adelaide’s Kelly is on the bubble this week in the backline, while Krakouer and Tarrant are the other two good rookies on offer. As discussed in the Thursday night podcast, Newnes is not dead wood. Hold.
However, if you’re sitting pretty, conserve trades. You want 24 minimum left after this weekend – it is a marathon and those trades are worth so much come the end of the year.
As always, I’ll try and be around in the comments, or you can tweet me on the twitters @PatchToTheMax.
TRADING PLACES
Remember, Eddie Murphy’s price is on the way up and Dan Aykroyd’s is struggling and will dip.
Eddie Murphy’s
-141 – Robbie Tarrant
-100 – Nathan Krakouer
-85 – Patrick Cripps
-48 – Touk Miller
-44 – Lucas Webb
Significant others – most rookies
Dan Aykroyd’s
298 – Tom Rockliff
196 – Michael Barlow
182 – Kieran Jack
169 – Jack Zeibell
169 – Rory Sloane
Significant others include Mumford and JPK on 163, Lewis on 146 and Fyfe on 145.
THE ROOKIE RUMBLE
We have seen our first rookies fall in the race to the top of the jungle. Ahmed Saad and Brendan Whitecross were proven not up to the task, while Clark and Heeney have fallen due to injury. They are finally learning how tough the rumble in the jungle truly is.
Defenders
Nothing overly interesting to gape at here. None of them should be made the sub, so this is in order of scoring consistency and potential. However, Jake Kelly is sitting in the second-last spot on an extended Adelaide bench which has me worried for him. If you are looking to trade him in, maybe hold off until Sunday teams are announced.
Saad
Oxley
McIntosh
J Kelly
Brown
Midfielders
Once again, reasonably self-explanatory. Duggan should slip free of the green vest if only because he’s had it so often, while I’m not worried by vandenBerg or Ellis-Yolman on the pine. Touk Miller should step up in a depleted Gold Coast midfield. Slip Krak forward if possible.
Cripps
vandenBerg
Ellis-Yolman
Miller
Krakouer
Newton
Duggan
Rucks
“The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning a rookie ruckman.” – Fredrick Neitzche
Even the great philosophers struggled with Supercoach.
Forwards
You can’t leave the rookie bloke averaging 100 off the field, even if he is playing the reigning premiers. You will probably be disappointed if you expect another ton, but anything over 70 is brilliant for us. Hogan is playing in the wet against Freo, but did so last week against Rance and still scored 118, so I’m backing him for a 65+ here. Webb is on the bubble for the doggies, but I haven’t looked twice at him. Ditto Andrews. None of them bar Webb are in danger of the vest, miraculously.
Tarrant
Hogan
Krakouer
McCarthy
Salem
Lonie
Andrews
Webb
So you would trade brett goodes to jake kelly.. not wait for daniel mckenise?
Depends on your situation Jimmy. If you've got no bench cover, spare trades and no other issues, I'd go for the trade. But it's not an urgent one and should push his way back into the Doggie's side.
Wait for Mc Kenzie mate
Mckenzie's job security wont be that great as of now
Nice one Patch. Salem or Lonie on the park. Can't loop it. Concerned about what Freo did to Salem in that preseason game.
It's not a nice round for looping, is it Pieman? I've got Salem down because he plays a much friendlier Supercoach role than Lonie does, but it's a bit of a toss of a coin. I've had to put both on field, but I'd back Salem in.
Great work Patch. Thanks mate. I’m still debating vb or heeney for krak. What do you think?
I reckon NVB will come good
heeney for me
Thanks Tulendeena, that’s how my team stands at the moment but I’ve looked at both. Lamb to Tarrant was an easy call for me but heeney v vb is harder
EDITED: having just checked the Breakevens, van Berlo needs to hit 64 to go up in price. Will struggle to hit it. Keep Heeney.
Thanks very much Patch. Appreciate your help mate
I have the same issue – I traded NVB for the following reasons:
1. His BE is 64 – that is 20 more than his score last week and only 10 less than his average;
2. His output seems to have decreased over the last 2 weeks since Thompson came back in (avg 55);
3. Heeney BE is only 35, which includes the 7. He will still go up in price when he is back on the park (which should be next week), and will go up even more when the 7 is out of his rolling average;
4. Using Heeney this week to help with rookie scores – putting E on Cripps, so will take his score if its okay – otherwise will put Krak or Miller on the park.
Brilliant Cozza. Just completed the trades. In Tarrant out lamb. In Krakouer out vb. thanks mate
Should I keep Newnes or bring in Hodge? My backline is Shaw, Higgins, Newnes Harry L, Saad, Oxley, Henderson, McIntosh have 23 trades left and 1 this round with lots in the bank $520k
Hold newnes.. won't be tagging this week with Mav Weller back in hopefully.
Hold Newnes. Lek has promised us he'll bash out a 90 this week against the Bombers. (No pressure, Lek.)
Lock in a 90
What’s Newnes BE this week?
100+ i think
Just goes to show that this is the greatest supercoach website, show me another site where you get a week full of outstanding articles and podcasts only to be bookended with this article, a nugget of supercoach gold with the research done for you and to top it all off, it quotes effing Neitzche. Fark me, brilliant!
haha thanks General! Made all the better by your comments, sir.
You speak on behalf of the community General – you could not have summarised it any better!
Spot on General. I find myself checking in many times a day. I love the ideas and the positive nature of everyone.
Kudos for effort patch but this is just a regurgitation of info we clearly all already know! I don’t see much in this article that is new, everything has been covered in news articles and podcasts. Some originality next time please!
Well what to say here. Hrmmm. Cearly wombat you are across your supercoach stuff as you know everything already. But the harsh reality is not everyone is and the article is designed to provide those with little time to research a leg up on a Friday so for mine, it hits its intended goal.
As a suggestion perhaps rather than mashing away at the keyboard with vitriolic nonsense, perhaps provide an alternative, or an additional opinion, a snippet of your own wisdoms to assist the community rather than just feeding off it or deriding it. Putting a Kudos at the front is not a get out of jail card where you can waffle on without substance after that point.
Here here General!
Agreed General, this article is intended for those that don't have time to catch up on all the supercoach news and want a quick fix! I'm following all the news during the week and I still pick up bits and pieces from patches articles. Keep up the good work patch!
Well general Kudos for the response! I feel if articles are going to be put up to increase web hits > to increase advertising revenue they should at least be of substance. Break evens (done on a thousand different sites), quoting rookies (hmmm, who are the good rookies…??? Newsflash, everyone already knows – read the 4 other threads this week) and advising people of injury returns (WOW, stop the press… didn't know swan and gray were back.) !! Nah, you're right General!! I was wrong, roll out the "Ripping article Patch" call, it's on the mark! I think patches articles can best be summed up by his own words "Nothing overly interesting to gape at here" and "Once again, reasonably self-explanatory"!
Starting to sound like the real Wombats, if so welcome back. Notably you have not sought to proffer any wisdoms.
I feel you are missing the point by that far it is as if Travis Cloke himself was kicking at goal.
"the article is designed to provide those with little time to research a leg up on a Friday so for mine"
That is the point be careful not to miss it.
"Nothing overly interesting to gape at here" and "Once again, reasonably self-explanatory"! – To you perhaps, but possibly very interesting and informative for the time poor.
In addition the articles here also provide a forum whereby discussions such as this one ensue. It is quite often from those discussions that different ideas thinking etc come alive. Without the pretense of the articles I am sure there would be a less robust community and by extension discussion.
If it is the increase in webhits and advertising revenue that has your goat, I am sure that Jock thanks you for visiting and contributing to the traffic.
So far I've had an enthusiastic response, Wombat, and a lot of people don't have the time you do to trawl the news and the stats. Thanks for the feedback – yes this week was a bit rushed, and there wasn't a huge amount of big news to 'spice up' the panic room this week.
Jock has asked me to fill a role. It might not be the flashiest of roles or have the groundbreaking strategic analysis given by Mick or Johnny Bruyn, but some people find it useful. Not everyone does. You seem to be in the latter, which is fine.
Gee wizz guys. Wheres the love?
Makes me wonder why you bother with this site seeing you know everything. Why not find a whingers website somewhere and have a cry. These articles arnt made for people that know everything. a lot of people get a lot of valuable information from articles such as these. if they dont inspire you wombat. then dont read them. but i guess some people just arnt happy unless they whinge about someting
Grammar and spelling is overrated I agree!
General – that is a great take-down. Wombat… why bother mate?
Should I trade Krak for VB or heeney or should I keep both?
Some say trade VB now???
Either are good, but I would offload NvB now. Heeney still has growth.
Ok thanks thats what I was think too. Plus it gives me 400K in the warchest!
Yes. van Berlo has a break even of 64. He will struggle to hit it, let alone exceed it by enough to go up. NVB to #TheKrak for mine.
Oh I forgot I lambert to….should I trade lambert or NVB for Krak?
Lambert if you think NVB is a chance to make his BE. At least if he makes his BE he won't go down in value. However, if you think he won't make his BE, trade him so you don;t lose money – at least you won't lose money with Lambert
With Swan, Grey and Clark in the Fwds, made the decision to get rid of Clark/Salem for Tarrant so I have 2 bench cover this week incase the 2 premos fall over (highly likely).
Will say bye bye to Heeny too and bring in the Krak.
If you have better cover in your mids and have a dpp there, try to swing Grey or Swan into your midfield. Would decrease the pressure on your fwd bench.
Love your thinking Brookesy. If this can save you a trade, I'd do that.
We will know if Swan is out very soon, so you may only need the one backup on bench by the time we know that
Bloody hell Patch, I thought I knew what I was doing this week (1 trade: Lambert to Tarrant). Now you have thrown a spanner in the works and making me think I need to go 2 trades: Lambert to Tarrant, Lamb to Krak). Not comfortable bringing my trade count down to 24. What does the community think? Or I could go Heeney to Krak.
It's a tough one. I firmly believe you need both Krak and Tarrant. If your side looks like it can bunker down for 3 weeks or so without trades, fire away. If you have ample cover and feel comfortable with your cash generation, then hold.
Do both trades – you need $$ to get a full premo team – Lambert and Lamb are making you no money at the moment. Krak and Tarrant are guaranteed to make you money as long as they play – every little bit helps when we get the end of the season. 24 trades is not too bad at the moment – but you will want to be conservative over the next few weeks leading up to the byes
Better than me, I have 23 trade left this week. Going to try not to trade too much after this round until a bit later on
Its not ideal but you have to get your side right
1 – make sure you have the right rookies and try not to miss any of those who will generate the big cash
2 – fix any long term injury issues
3 – plan to bring in the fallen premiums as their price bottoms out (Eg Rocky, GAJ, Gray, Smith)
if you don't do 1 you will struggle to do 3
as you have two non playing rookies that don't look like playing for a while they cant generate any cash. You should do the trades.
They will potentially save you further trades down the track
Hahaha!
Loving the Nietzache quote!
Personally I lost any coherent sense of objective truth when The Little Master went down…
"Without Gary Ablett, life, life would be a mistake." – Neitzche again. He was quite the Supercoach pioneer before Jock took the mantle and codified the Way of the Supercoach.
Who knew?!!
I'm off to reread Beyond Good and Evil in the hope it might give some insight as to wether the E should go on Miller or Sheed.
Should I trade in Round 5 if I don't have to? Tarrant and Krak are inviting at their B/E. Only reason to trade is to make $$$$…yes or no? What do you think community?
No trades unless you need to. They are invaluable later in the season
Let the current crop of rookies fatten. If they are all fattened get the next lot in
Still trying to understand what Jock meant by his reference to the Rats of Toobruk
Depends on how close you are to upgrading. If you're doing well with rookies so far and they're all playing and generating cash, then sit tight. If you want to accelerate the cash generation you want them. I'd definitely want one of the two of them in, (Krak if only one) but if you're happy with your side, hold those trades!
Thoughts on Heeney to Krakouer & Lonie to Tarrant?
Great article Patchy boy
Lonie still has growth to come. BE of -6 so will appreciate in cash for the next three weeks. Hold him. If you've got an injured forward in Lambert, Lamb or McGrath, switch one of them to him.
NVB or Lambert for Krak? I forgot I had Lambert on my bench
I'd say van Berlo. Not going to appreciate much more and Lambert can be a crucial swing set and a loophole player, especially if you've got Lambert and Krakouer on separate lines.
Ok Thank you! Great post too!
Any chance C.Judd could pull out a big one this week ? Is he a POD with the VC ? Thoughts any one ?
I like it.
Big POD. Crisp held Watson reasonably well last week but I'd expect him to go to Murphy. As a week where most of us are struggling to loop effectively – Cox, Read, Lambert, Heeney, Hamling all playing early – I reckon he'd be a good gambit backed by Fyfe.
With 115 average against Collingwood and 114 at the MCG he could kill it if he escapes the tag.
He could do it for Mick
might work out well
Hey Patch which 2 should I have on field Hogan, Salem or Tarrent?
I prefer Hogan and Salem as I think Tarrant will have to play a shut down role on Gunston this week.
Never thought I'd see the day when I recommend 2 key position players off a half-back runner, but Tarrant and Hogan are in brilliant form. Freo nullified Salem in the NAB, as well.
Agreeeeed – Hogan and Tarrant
who should i trade to Krakouer heeney or lambert?
Heeney. Take the cash and run!
Definitely Lambert
Lambert – Heeney still has money to make while Lambert is doing nothing for you, and won't for a while yet.
I've done one trade this round, Lambert to Krak. But, I'm not sure whether Tarrent is a must have rookie? I'm thinking of either trading Miller, Heeey, Clark, or Salem to him. Heeney and Clark and injured, Salem has a tough run and Miller doesn't seem to be scoring as well as other rookies. Thoughts?
Miller will shine in next few weeks with David Swallow, Jaeger, Gablett and Nick Malceski out, pumped out two decent 80 wouldnt trade him out. Even if Tarrent scores 50 from here on in his price will still go up big time.
So what is your suggestion?
I'd go with Heeney from that lot. I feel Tarrant is needed to really push the cash flow up. I agree with Riley, well said.
If you've got the right rookies Mac I wouldn't go jumping off one of them. Cop Tarrant's price rise on the chin and save the trade
Only trade I'd consider there is Clark to Tarrant – it will generate you more cash, but personally I would hold. Clark still has more cash to make, so in the long run I don't know that there will be that much of a difference between the two. As Jock said in the podcast yesterday, Tarrant is unreliable (although Clark would also fit the same boot).
Is picking Heppell chasing the car or will he be a top 10 midfielder by seasons end?
Cheers
He'll be a top 10. But are you doing a sideways trade? I would avoid that move if you are. If you are getting rid of an injured player Heppell is a solid choice.
Have Wines so need to make the sideways.
I've got a lot of love for Heppell as a bomber supporter. Clouds my judgement but he is a gun and will start attracting the tag over Watson. If you're looking to put your plums on the line, he'd be the choice to make your year sensational – and crucially won't flop like, say, Hannerbery has in the latter half of a season.
Good trade – Heppell will be close to, if not, top 10
Salem or krakour on the field?
I've got Krakouer listed above him up there mate. Lock in onground.
Who would you trade out? Van Berlo or Salem for Tarrant?
van Berlo. As mentioned in comments above, NVB has a breakeven of 64. We won't see too much more growth out of him. Salem still has another few weeks.
NVB – BE of 64 and averaging only 74. He is averaging 55 with Thompson in the team (last 2 weeks), so a chance he will drop $$ this week. Cut him before he drops $$. Salem BE is 17, so still money to be made there
Thanks guys! Pretty much where I was heading but was thinking NVB may have had a few good scores left in him. Salem is on my bench atm as FWD's not a necessity but cant miss out on that much cash! I will ditch NVB and bring Krak into the mids and Tarrant in as a FWD. Cheers!
Krak or Bellchambers on field?
That is a tough one. I've been to Essendon's last two and big Belch hasn't looked brilliant. He has been well beaten by Cameron Wood and Brodie Grundy, who are hardly heavyweights of the league. I'd show faith in TBC this week, but only just.
Cheers thanks for the advice 🙂 Great Article by the way 🙂
Krak
TBC reckon he will have a big one
Longer will kill TBC in the ruck. Not sure you’ll get much out of TBC around the ground, though at least he’ll have a dry track to take some marks. Not sure it’ll make a huge diff either way.
Great stuff patch
just wondering if i should trade goods to kelly or hold
cheers
Depends on how many trades you've got left and if you've any other issues on the field
IMO it is not a critical trade
Depends on how many trades and cover you have, but yes.
So my dilemma is too many options so I'm looking to the community for some advice.
Option 1
Rich > Tarrant via krakour swing
Newnes > Houli
Option 2
Heeney > Tarrant via Krakour swing
Newnes > Kelly
Option 3
Clark > Tarrant closing swingset
Newnes > Andrews
All options also come with the no Newnes trade clause as well.
Thankyou
Option 1. Clark and Heeney still have coin to make
Hold Newnes. Rich to Tarrant works mate.
I would suggest you hold all trades. Don't trade Newnes – Lek has promised a 90. Rich still has $$ to make and is performing a role. Heeney and Clark still have $$ to make as well – I think you will only be wasting a trade.
If you are set on making a trade here, Heeney is probably the one to go – Clark still has a negative BE and the word from Geelong is he will be back next week. Heeney has a higher BE
I would keep all 4 that you're looking to trade, do you have any others you'd consider instead?
Rich averaging 98 in a very poor team, will average 85-90 onwards IMO and be a nice M8.
You picked Newnes I assume as a keeper – he will come good now with Weller back in the side.
Both Heeney & Clark have low BE's and will still make you $$$
WIth the guys you're looking to bring in I would only consider Tarrant, worried about JS of others.
Try and find a more suitable player to use to get him if you can.
Hope that helps, will def save you a trade!
Please community help me out
Option 1: Heeney and Lambert to Krak and Tarrent (no rookie swing sets from forward to mid)
Option 2: Lambert to Krak
Option 3: Salem and Heeney to Krak and Tarrent
Option 4: Clark and Heeney to Krak and Tarrent
Option 5: Don't do anything.
Option 1. You should have a swing set with that though? If you trade Heeney to Krakouer, you have a FWD/MID player there? Even if not, option 1, mate.
Option 2. Heeney has proven he can hit 90's, plenty more to make.
Option 2 – Lambert doing nothing for you at the moment and won;t do for a while. Krak will at least make you some money
Trade NvB or Anderson for Kraków?
Anderson if you don't need the cash desperately
Do you think NVB will make his BE of 64? If not, NVB as he is going to lose money if he goes less than that. Otherwise, Anderson because he is doing nothing for you.
Hi community,
Who you think will score more tonight out of pendles and swan
Go the percentage pick and go with Pendles. Swan under a fitness cloud
I've got enough money to upgrade Salem to franklin. Or should I go down to Tarrant? Help please!!!
Down to Tarrant. Personally I'm not trading into Buddy until I see him hitting some form.
Wet in sydney
I get what you mean patch, but Buddy's has been playing great football, mostly in weather not at all suitable for KPP, and again this week the weather is crap in Sydney.
Once Buddy gets on a dry track watch out. He is playing great football, tackling like never before, and working super hard, and still kicking his share of goals (in conditions that make it difficuilt to get high scores).
I would look to bring Buddy into a side within the next 2 weeks, but not this week given he will be playing in extremely wet conditions again.
Buddy is averaging 99 without really getting a hold of teams on the scoreboard just yet. If you ask me, he’s in pretty good form
Think I would go Tarrant and get Frank later?
Cheers for your input fellas. Will look to get buddy in a couple of weeks
Now got 530k in the war chest
Are we confident about Krak’s ability to not get the vest going forwards? With Gray back into the side, Ah Chee the obvious vest candidate is out and now who gets it is up in the air. Mitchell, Young and Monfries being the 3 options alongside Krak and none have been in poor form.
Amon has been named for his first game and Kenny loves giving new kids the vest for this week. Krak might get it once, but not often at all. Port have a few players to rotate through the role. He'll do the job we need him to.
Going to have a punt on Swan as my VC tonight. Got a feeling he could go big (despite the early week ankle soreness)
I’m going Travis.
Forward line is
Franklin, Martin, Hogan, Gray, Salem, TBC (Clark, Lonie)
Do i trade someone to Tarrant or hold the trade?
Your forward line is nearly identical to mine, except I’ve got Swan instead of TBC. I ended up trading out Salem for Tarrant this week
Who should I trade for Krakow, Cockatoo or Heeny?
also who should I trade for Tarrent, Tomlamb or Mitch Clark? If I trade Clark I have more cash in the bank, but if I trade Lamb I will have more cash cows as he is not playing. thoughts?
Cocky and Lamb.
I went Lamb to Tarrant despite having to pay ($30K) to get him.
cockatoo and lamb as he is out for loner
All his pre season hype has died now but if Blaine Broekhurst scores 75+ tonight he'll be the most traded in player for the week. Other than McInnes there won't be anyone else on the bubble it seems
Not on the bubble next week.. but we get our first look at 6 "new" guys this round – who might be bubble boys heading into Round 7:
* DEF – Schade & McKenzie
* MID – C.Ellis & Glenn
* FWD – K.Langford & Lennon (1st look for this year, hopefully can break into Tiges best 22 after a lot of vests last year)
Good work Kraken. Out of that bunch I like McKenzie and Glenn
Tex to tarrant
Heeney to Heppell
Thoughts?
What was your goal in selecting Tex? If you're happy letting him go, then go for it. Like the Heppell move though.
hoping tew was goning to make money
tex
If you don't reckon he'll make any more, then get rid of him. Keep in mind though his next 3 opponents are Gold Coast, St Kilda and GWS and could go massive against one or more of those sides, and again against carlton in round 10. I'd go Heeney to Tarrant via sneaky DPP like Lambert or Krak.
who to trade in for krak, salem, NVB, OR heeney??
Thoguhts
NVB for Krak.
Hey all!!
Could you guys please give me some insight as to when Caleb Daniel may get a run from the Bulldogs?
heeney or clark out for tarrant?
Heeney.
thanks thats what i have currently gone with
What is the better option?
Heeney and Salem/Clark -> Tarrant and Krakouer, with $400,000
or
Heeney and Lambert -> Tarrant and Krakouer, with $230,000
Cant decide if I'd rather cash in the kitty ready for some fallen premos, or more cash generation…
option 2 got to go with the more cash generation
Agree.
do I trade Clark or Salem for Tarrant? Thanks community
So very tough. if they're your only options, perhaps hold? I really don't know on this one without access to the Delorean. If I was at gunpoint Salem.
thanks Patch
Great article!
What's the better option and why?
OUT: Newnes, LAMBERT
IN: McDonald, krakouer
Or
OUT: Newnes, Lambert
IN: J Kelly, Tarrant
Thanks Dons. Lek has assured us that Newnes will score 90 this week and I'm inclined to believe he is going to get better. Hold him. Trading to McDonald will just waste you more trades, in my opinion. Lambert to Tarrant is a good move though; fire away.
It's probably an unpopular opinion but I don't mind the Newnes to Kelly downgrade to free up some cash with all the fallen premos on offer over the next 2-3 weeks.
I can't see Newnes being anywhere near a top 6 defender this season so most coaches will have to upgrade him at some point anyway. Perhaps he will unleash a huge score this week as many are expecting or hoping but I wouldn't put my house on it and Kelly is ripe on the bubble this weekend.
But all that said Tarrant and Krak are the priority trades this week for virtually all coaches that don't have them. Newnes can wait another week and if he spuds it again then you can look to do something with him then.
Hi Community,
Who do I ditch for Tarrant. Heeney, lambert, Salem, Clark. I alrdy have Krak so that's not a problem and I think my other trade I'd tbc to franklin who looks rly ripe. I was thinking heeney because of the 7 and i lose money going lambert to tarrant so i didnt really like that and dont want to waste a trade bringing him back in. let me know your thoughts on how i should approach this week.
Lambert for sure. Still listed as 5-6wks on the AFL's official injury list and is no guarantee to come back straight into the senior team even then. That's way too long to be carrying anyone if you hope to keep up with the Jones's.
Plus all those other rookies you mentioned still have more cash to make for you over the next 4-6wks whilst Lambert is still recovering.
ok butg is it a problem that i have no war chest after?
You'll have an opportunity to make some bank in a couple of weeks when you slaughter fully fattened cash cows.
If you get rid of those other guys right now you are foregoing anywhere between $50-200K in unrealised profits.
But if you are desperate for cash immediately you could consider cashing out either Heeney or Salem although it's a tad premature for my liking.
ok ty ill take ur advice
keep heeney and clark both out for a week and heeney will be your money don't get rid of him yet and clark is only going get better getting warmed up and what about fraser McManus from west coast he looked alright last week
Who do we reckon will be #2 ruckman come years end?
Also is trading out my R3 for a prem ruckman and then moving TBC to R3 a good move, or is it too much $ to spend
Too much cash on the pine mate. If TBC can be played on the ground up forward, then maybe pull in another premo ruck. At this stage I don't know who the second ruck will be – Stefan Martin, Ivan Maric, Mumford or Jacobs. Personally I'm hoping it will be Mumford but it's looking unlikely. Hold until we have more data mate.
I can see the benefit in doing it. There are so many forward's scoring better, and appreciating in value faster than TBC, that its almost a waste to fill a forward spot with TBC (onfield or bench).
The R3 position is a wasteland, and only really used for the captains loophole, when the timing is right.
The real question is-
Is it worth spending an extra $200k to have a back-up ruckman, and to open-up a position for another rookie to appreciate in the forward-line?
Given there is no shortage of rookie forwards at this time, i think having Bellchambers at R3 makes some sense, as his scores dont warrant selection in the forward-line, but are better than getting a donut in the ruck, should a ruck go down for a week.
who should i bench out of salem, hogan and lonie?
I am benching Lonie, same players to choose from.
Thoughts on Mcgrath -> Tarrant
Heeney – > Krak
Contemplating just going Mcgrath to Tarrant and keep one trade
Depends on how well your rookies are performing and how your cash generation is going, but I would do both trades
my bench this week without trades will be oxley, kelly, miller, heeney, sheed, read, clark, mgrath
Thoughts on Mcgrath -> Tarrant
Heeney -> Krak
Contemplating just going Mcgrath to Krak and saving the trade. Thoughts?
I've done similar trades myself, trading dead weight such as Anderson and Mcgrath to Tarrent and Krak.
Personally I reckon you should pick up Tarrant. Has an incredible break even.
Even if he scores a 50 he should still go up around 90k.
yeahh thats what im thinking but i dont want to ditch heeney :'(
Any love for Judd VC tonight?
Clearly only rested last week for tonight
Go for it could outscore pendles and swan by a bit
I like the move. I dont have Judd, but if I did, I would make him VC.
Great work again Patch. Brett ‘What is a Football’ is pure gold. Great advice from the community also as always.
Looking to trade out McGrath or Lamb and can’t decide between Tarrant, Krak or Young. Could also trade Lambert but have him on the bench along with VB as coverage so not an immediate priority. Would love your thoughts and those of the community.
I like Tarrant's JS over Krakouer, and he has the lower breakeven, so if you've only got room for one, make it Tarrant. I'd move both Lamb and McGrath on, however. Lambert is a good combo with Krakouer.
I can't agree with you there, but I also can't disagree. Tarrant has a bit of injury history and when Hansen comes back in Tarrant could find himself out of the team. But on the other hand Krak is in but Wines is still out. Still go with Tarrant though, I reckon he will make more cash than Krak
They're not easy to split.
id go mcgrath or lamb to krak… doesnt really matter since their both injured long term right?
Who should I loophole Oxley or McIntosh? I'm guessing Oxley based on the fact he's playing tonight!
Spot on. Oxley to be loopholed
Who is your defensive non starter?
Tippett NM and I have saad in def 3 and if the weather is crap can go to tippett NM
Thanks!
Hopefully Oxley puts up a good score?
Some really bad weather forecast for Sydney and the Gold Coast. Absolutely atrocious conditions expected for both Sydney – Bulldogs and Gold Coast -Brisbane matches.
Saad was a certain starter on my backline, now I am not so sure. Unless conditions improve dramatically on Saturday, I will probably put Mc Intosh on the field against Geelong. Nice weather forecast in Melbourne this weekend.
If players in these rain/deluge affected matches are going to play splash, I doubt the SC are going to look very good. I reckon Buddy Franklin could be snapped up at a good price next week. He aint gonna like these conditions.
Buddy is the one KPF I'd pick on a rainy day though Top. But good call. I'm keeping Saad purely because of GC's mid woes – he will be running through there with Touk.
keeping heeney and clark on a week out. I took van berlow out for cripps he will be my money maker and bought kracker in last week so teams set just have to pray to the fantasy gods I get no more players hurt
should I get rid of Taylor Walker for Tarrant??
No. He's got an easy run coming up that he should blitz. Hold.
No need for he huge comment…. but lambert
How long did that take you type out ? That's ridiculous ! – but to answer your question – Lambert
how can i delete the question?
Surely you "copied and pasted" that essay? LOL
Probably Lambert – I think! HS not a fan of the old copy + paste, I see! 😛
Magnificient first quarter by Oxley!! He would have racked up at least 50 SC points by 1/4 time. Crippsy getting a bit of the pill too now.
On 51 pts. Imagine if he kicked that other long goal…!!!
Don't know what I was thinking !?! Took vc off dusty (Thought he might go big vs geelong) to Swanny … Yep despite the injury cloud thought he was ready to go huge after average Anzac Day… Swanny on 14 SC atm … Hopefully he comes good soon…
Relax Riley! Swannie is back! Big second quarter mate
Just want to say that ruck rookie comment was very funny. Nice one.
Oxley would be on 100pts easily if those two posters went through
Absolutely. But still I reckon he must be around 70 SC points at half time. Not bad for a rookie.
I’ll be trading out Saad for Tarrant but who out of Heeney and Anderson should make way for Krak
who should i start out of Lumumba and McIntosh.Worried about Lumumba's ability to score against Freo
Oxley 78 at half time. Might have found a top 10 defender
Round 1: Gets Subbed/ Rounds 2&3: Good Scores
Round 4: Gets Subbed/ Round 5: Good score??
Out of the three rookies I could play in defence, I picked Oxley. #youlittleripper
110 at 3 quarter time!!!!
That is an understatement……..Ox has a ton at 3/4 time. He is a stayer in my defensive structures. He is a good boy!
I traded tex for tarrant, reverse and hope he comes back against bottom eight teams or “back me constitutions”
Keep tex. And get tarrant.
Gee wiz. What a lame performance by Carlton. I feel sorry for Mick. (And I am not a Carlton fan) He deserves better than that.
I agree!
Ok Oxley has had a great game so far…. Who do I take out Saad McIntosh Newnes or Henrderson for Tippett in the loophole? Have to take Oxley score!
I'm thinking Saad based on the weather forecast???
Oh I have Murphy (WB) too thats where the weather is suppose to be really bad?
Grrrr Oh yeah I have Hunt too
Ummm I think the pies need to find Oxley a lower number than 43…wow
I love players having high numbers. I don't get why clubs don't like it.
Hahaha. Welcome to Aussie Rules.
YOUR CALL
We, uh, I think we take 141 yeah? McIntosh is off for me. Keeping Saad and KK onfield.
C'mon TOPHAWK who would be the best option?
Newnes
Hmmmm Ok? Lekdog says he hits the ton this week?
Geez might have to put the C on Oxley????
Put it on Newnes
You mean Tippet in for Newnes and use the loophole right?
Lock the VC on pendles
Anyone kind enough to post SC scores?
They are already on SC
Mick will announce his retirement this week.
If he doesnt, he will "be pushed".
Mick is done. Players at Carlton are not listening to him anymore.
COLLINGWOOD SCORES
A. Oxley 141
Pendlebury 151
J. Crisp 115
Grundy 116
D. Swan 89
T. Langdon 97
T. Adams 108
T. Goldsack 109
N. Brown 81
J. Blair 94
J. Elliott 83
M. Williams 100
J. Ramsay 91
T. Cloke 69
J. White 69
P. Seedsman 89
C. Gault 64
T. Varcoe 54
S. Dwyer 71
P. Karnezis 30
J. Frost 52
A. Toovey 60
these are just quick scores, im sure they will change
Oxley now 148, Pendles now 158.
CARLTON SCORES
S. Docherty 90
M. Murphy 89
K. Simpson 75
P. Cripps 80
C. Judd 58
E. Curnow 72
T. Bell 75
D. Ellard 66
C. Wood 92
A. Everitt 62
D. Armfield 51
Z. Tuohy 64
S. Rowe 82
R. Warnock 74
B. Gibbs 38
L. Jones 41
M. Whiley 34
K. Jaksch 41
D. Buckley 21
A. Walker 45
Boekhorst 10
Henderson 4
Again probably not 100% accurate