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Supercoach 2015Krak and Tarrant. Tarrant and Krak.

These are the priorities for many Supercoaches out there in the hours before round 5 lockout. But is it really as cut and dry as that? Are both of these lads absolute drop your pants MUSTS to bring into your team?

We talk Minson, we talk Goldstein, we talk Newnes we talk defense… she is a jam packed community night this week folks!

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Cameron Moosey

Fantasy Royalty

Chelsea

Will ‘skin flute’ Minson has to go this week to avoid another donut. I have Goldstein and plenty of cash, who should I trade in? Martin, Blivcas or Maric?

Leon

If I had the opportunity I would go martin every day of the week. maric if money is a issue, not sure blivcas can keep this up.

Matt

I have the same issue Chelsea. My worry with Martin is that when/if luey comes back in it will see his scores drop. I’m not sure if he’s worth that risk. I think Maric might be the safer option

Swans2012

Martin scores a lot of points around the ground so I’d think he “should” still score well with luenhamandeggenberger in the team

Cozza

Blivcas is a massive POD – and has been very impressive so far. Maybe chasing the points by picking him, but they have big wraps on him at cat land. Shark move the Blivcas call.

Jake

Worth bringing in Lukas Webb for Tom Lamb? Or waste of a trade

Lach

Trade lamb for Tarrant. That's my plan this wk as lamb is 8wks away

@johnson_tragic

Krakouer over him everyday of the week, Tarrant as well.

Wheels1987

Shark v Shoal mate

Same problem with B.Hartung

youngy55

Average of 57 over first to game isn't bad got a -44 BE, but I think there are better options out there I can see him quick easily being dropped or not getting games, if you bring him in this week your probably get around a 40k cash generation this week but that will slowly decrease and in 5 – 6 weeks when you want to trade him out I can only see him at best at around 250k.

Remember Trade are Gold!

Bailey McLellan

Just have to love the community night podcasts

BPM

Who is this?

the sprinkler

dick out krak in

ooowww super stuff… cant wait to listen later as i tucks meself into bed

Horsemiller12

Krak for dick is always good

Champ

G'day community,
Already going Heeney to Kraq and contemplating going Ahmed Saad to Tarrant. Thoughts??

Cam

Correct trade

Wheels1987

Like

Todd

Go the dees

jezzahill

Need your advice community:

I'm using two trades this week, but stuck between three alternatives. I'm going to trade out Heeney for Krak, thats a given. But its the other two options I'm torn between. I want to get Tarrant in this week before his price goes gangbusters, but Will Minson is my R2, and I would use the cash from the Heeney trade to get Goldstein in. Do I get the two rookies in and cop a doughnut in my rucks (I did this last week and just managed to hit 2000) or ensure I get at least Krak in and turf the skin flute Minson?

4rm

Tough one. If your other rookies are going well and making cash I would go the Minson trade. Taz does look pretty special, and there aren't too many rookies start with 2 tons and as much potential to make heaps,of cash. I'm bringing in Taz and Krak, I can't ignore that much money to be made. I will be selling off one under priced rookie, but I'm still sticking with my rule of not trading down unless I make $100 k, or injury. I'm either trading Salem or Sinclair just don't know who yet, I'm leading to Salem, thinking Sinclair can make another $80 k whereas Salem maybe another 50 k. Good luck on a tough decision.

Mike

Unless you’ve completely missed other good rookies this is simple. Got to go with the points of Goldy. Cash won’t get you a league win or points.

nathan

I’m in the same struggle
But now minson not playing and goldy going up buy around 20k it’s worth taking the rookie this week and having a donut
It’ll hit your points this week but you get the extra cash that’ll be needed later down the track

Wheels1987

depends if your going for rank or league wins

Rank then trade Minson
League then take the 0

cheers

Wheels
Team Name: Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

Benno

Here's my dilemma. Newnes is a spud, worse, a mashed spud. Zac smith dropped but TBC as cover. Thinking both should be traded but… I want, nay, I need krak for heeney and Tarrant for lamb. Hmmm… Thoughts plz community.

TTJ

Maybe you could always trade Smith for Krak by moving TBC into the ruck & trade Lamb for Tarrant & have about 300k in the bank for future upgrades.

At least Newnes is playing. Worry about him later.

WombatsFC

Sucks to have your team:-)

Benno

Thanks for such constructive feedback wombat.

Marronator

Get over yourself Benno. It's ok to have a laugh.

WombatsFC

The writer didn't ask for feedback they asked for thoughts. I merely provided what was requested with ultimate honesty. Stop being such a mother Theresa

Benno

Neglected to see the smiley face in my early morning haze when I replied. Happy super coaching all!

meow

Sucks your articles didn’t get picked up like chickos, leks, dex’s, jbruins,patch etc etc! Wonder why that was wombats?! Fail the attitude test did we?

WombatsFC

Wrong again. The only one that I wrote was brilliant

Wheels1987

hold newnes

Brent

is a Lambert > Tarrant trade viable?

jezzahill

Absolutely, get him in. Better to have a rookie making you cash than having one injured on the pine.

Wheels1987

yes, yes and yes

Pavos

What do I do. Heeney or Anderson to krak and Clark or TWalker to Tarrant?

Donavan

Anderson to Krak & Walker to Tarrant.

Anderson is not in the Hawks best 22, and will get only occasional games when injuries dictate.
Walker will drop price over the next week or 2, and Clark still has cash to make once he is back.

WombatsFC

You have a fit player who is team captain but an erratic scorer and an injured player with a terrible injury history.
Clarke has never recovered from an injury in the same season he acquired it. even if a miracle does occur and he's back within 2 weeks he will be subbed for at least his first game so price increase will be minimal.

Walker is fit and can go huge. Keep the fit bloke what happens if Swan and Bont both miss next week?

Wheels1987

Heeney to Krak

Keep Walker, trade someone else to get Tarrant

cheers

Wheels
Team Name: Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

3. votes

who should I trade out for Krakour, Heeny or Cockatoo?

Donavan

Cockatoo – dont think he is ready for AFL quite yet.

Heeney will return in a week or 2, and looks a great player, with more cash to make.

Wheels1987

big risk but hold cockatoo

he has lost you cash

but should be given another chance

especially if geelong loose to the tigers then they will have to play young players.

cheers

Wheels
Team Name: Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

Youngster

I'm the opposite, trade Cockatoo without hesitation. In fact, I traded after round 2 and very pleased with that decision. He's been dropped and simply isn't worth having around. Cockatoo is not a bench cover solution no matter how you look at it. Heeney on the other hand has far more potential to make you money. In any case, both will need to get the chop at some point.

Wheels1987

yea i havent ever had cockatoo in my team
if i had him though it would cut me up having to trade a rookie that has lost me money

Jack

Clarke or lamb to Tarrant?

Donavan

Lamb.

Clark will be back soon enough, and has more cash to make.

Tulendeena

Ripper stuff

Going VC on Parker this week, controversial pick that just may pay off!

matt

raining in syd… tough gig for all players

David

im also going Parker! I smell a big one coming on for the man.

r2d2

Parker will dominate if it rains … Lock him in for 130 plus ! He will be my VC

@t_woof

JPK + SCG + Rain = Beast Mode.

skate or die

i think Tom Mitchell is flirting with me jock. I know i know i should hold but the temptation is too good.

r2d2

This will be his first game , wait a week if not 2

Sarah

He's barely in their best 22. Wait til he's played two games at least.

Wheels1987

he is such a gun

but hold

cheers

Wheels
Team Name: Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

John T

Lambert -> Tarrant
Lamb -> Tarrant
Lambert -> Krak
Lamb -> Krak
Or trade both out . Sitting on 28 trades?
Also have clark and heeney

Kev

Lambert/Lamb both LTI's, John. Cut the dead wood

Wheels1987

trade both

Ethan

given me a lot to think about now
heeney to krakour is a no brainer, but tarrant. should i bring in for lamb or clark

Kev

Lamb. Clark out as a precaution according to the afl website

Wheels1987

tarrant for lamb

The Roughnuts

The vast majority of coaches are going Krak & Tarrant this week. Krak I'm in complete agreeance. So my comment is in reference to Tarrant. Apart from Tarrant's obvious injury risk to his shoulders, what will his Job security be like when Lachie Hansen comes back into the team most probably next week. Does he continue to get a game? What are North supporters opinions or any of the communities thoughts? He is obviously going to make a lot of cash this week but will that be it?

r2d2

Very wary of him myself ,, but his BE is maybe too good too refuse ….

@t_woof

Agree, Lachie Hansen second game back in the VFL this weekend. Would presume he presses hard for selection the following weekend. He loves the marks from opposition kicks, will definitely have an impact on Tarrant's scores if comes back into the 22.

Tough one…….

Sarah

Yeah but with Taz's form he's not going to knock him out of the team at least. So he'll keep playing and make the most of that massive BE!

Hazey

I reckon Hansen coming back will allow him and Scotty to switch between lock down and 3rd man up roles. There will always be a role for Tarrant and he should get the gig against the gorilla fwds.

Wheels1987

if he keeps playing well then they wont drop him, but will need to watch carefully if he plays garbage. that said, we only need 3 – 4 more games from him so lets just get on that rollercoaster

cheers

Wheels
Team Name: Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

chris

jock mate, need a hand tbh..

is it better to trade out either a TBC, salem, clark to tarrant to gain extra cash for the warchest for next week.
or trade tom lamb out

Rocksta

It’s not Jock,
But I’m trading out Clark for Tarrant. Rather take the $78K than cost myself $27K. ( turnaround of over $100K).
I’m tipping this $100K will come in real handy in the next 2 weeks when I’m looking to bring in fallen premiums.
Clark isn’t a keeper so I say take the money!

Northerner

I’ve a different view. Lamb is LTI. You get to deal with that issue by trading him now. Don’t pass up the chance to address that.

Rocksta

I used Lamb for the Emergency Loophole last week to bring in Hogan’s 100+ score off the bench. I don’t mind having a couple of non playing players in my team as it opens up Emergency and Captain’s loophole options every week.
Besides, there will be many more times to get Lamb out during the season as its only round 5.

Sarah

I always think trading rookies should make you money. If you trade Lamb it's more a corrective trade than a downgrade. I'm holding Lamb for now in the hopes he comes in mid-year, but in the mean time he can be my captain's loophole.

Johnny

Who should I bring in for Malceski? Do you think Gibson can keep up his scores.. Maybe Hooker?

Kev

Still not over Rance scoring 90 from doing nothing last week. They obviously love him down at the CD offices, I'd go with him.

WombatsFC

I agree mate I reckon it's a stats person of the female variety that allocates most 'influence' points. You never see busted heads like Mitch Robbo or Jordan Lewis getting 30-50 'bonus' points but pretty boys like Rance, Fyffe, Sloane get tons

Juzzy

My brain is still hurting because Rivers scored more than Selwood last week.
One guy hardly touched it and the other was under every pack for the whole day.
Look at the stats if you want a good laugh.

scrofl

I'm bring Harry Taylor in this week, maybe consider him.

Juzzy

Like it scrofl.
Apart from his first game he has been smashing it.
But … Shhh. Don't tell anyone.

Tim

Thoughts on Ahmed saad? Keep or trade. Krak and Tarrant look primed.

SCaddict

I'd totally trade Saad who got dropped this week for either Krak or Taz. Wouldn't give it another thought.

jimmydowland

Brett Goodes to Jake Kelly?

SCaddict

All good mate. Who knows when we'll see Goodesy next and Kelly's JS seems ok right now.

Rocksta

Hope you’re right SC.
He’s on the extended bench, whilst Cheney has been named on field, making me concerned that he may not make the final 22.
I brought him in last week and there’s nothing worse than a rookie getting stranded on 2 games.

SCaddict

Indeed that goes without saying. If he doesn't make the cut tomorrow arvo then he's a no go for those without him.

WombatsFC

Hmmm is that the odur of burning Relton Roberts

Charlesy

Jimmy I’m waiting on Goodes. Doing the krak and Tarrant trades while they are on the bubble then looking at how Mc Kenzie goes for the Saints. Just something for you to consider mate

juddsbaldhead

KK is my number one issue here, some hints on what do do with this underperforming joker.

scrofl

If you've got the coin, upgrade him to a premo. Otherwise I say hold, at least til you can downgrade a rookie and get the cash to upgrade him.

WombatsFC

I agree with scrofl nudenut, if youre trading a midpricer it has to be an upgrade

Juzzy

Malceski and Swallow are out.
If KK is ever going to stand up it will have to be now.
Wait a week or two. If he is still shite then punt him.

juddsbaldhead

Genius juzzy, I over looked that whole situation. Another quicky on field for the ox can loop hole I have a full backline

TOPHAWK1

Hi Community,

A little tip for the newbies.

Cripps on the bench tomorrow night as an emergency. Heeney on the field. WHAT the f&%k are u thinking? U may ask…….

As Carlton play first in round 5, we get to look at Crippsy first. Like I expect, he will hammer out another 125+ SC score.

If he does, keep Heeney on the field. He aint playing this week. And keep Cripps as the "only emergency" in your midfield.

If Crippsy gets injured/ pumps out a turd of 50 SC points or less, then Cripps stays on the bench and you quickly take Heeney off the field and replace him with either Krak or Miller or another playing option.

The beauty of rolling lock outs.

Cheers

dognino

Unless you can't log in 🙁 I have to set n forget all my lines this weekend as I don't think I'll have reception

TOPHAWK1

Well you better fix it!!! Otherwise no hope of getting the 50K!
LOL

dognino

Haha, I'm well out of the race for 50k already

SCaddict

The emergency loophole is a handy exploit but it can sometimes backfire. For instance if CEY is a late out or another one of your Sunday mids you could be stuck with no emergency if it's already on Cripps with the Heeney donut on field.

Just something to consider is all I'm saying.

TOPHAWK1

I agree. That is the calculated risk you are prepared to take in order to win this thing.

My pants could get seriously "soiled" this weekend, but this is what it is all about. Calculated risk vs reward.

If Cripps scores a 70, Touk Miller will be a "back up" emergency. And if I am really desperate, I have another trade up my sleeve this round. If my situation gets to a point where everything is against me, well then I will take the globe. (donut)

If so, many other players will have similar problems.

Cheers

SCaddict

True, there are risks in every move we make or don't make. If Cripps puts in a shocker or gets injured early you could get an edge on the competition this weekend.

Northerner

Miller named on the ball this week with Sexton moving to his previous lock down fwd pocket role. Expect some good output from him this week given they are only playing Brisbane. It’s pouring down like nobodies business here at the moment but they are saying clear skies by lunchtime Saturday for what that’s worth.

WombatsFC

Words of wisdom SCaddict. I got bitten last year using the loophole just because I could.
If your choices are CrippsvPies, VBergVFreo, MillervBris you play cripps and try to loophole somebody else. The kid scored 119 and 106 in his two full Nab games and 78 in 3qrtrs in the 3rd. Had an injury affected score then a week off but backed it up with 170+ AGAINST ARMITAGE!!!

Rocksta

It’s called ‘the Emergency loophole’ TopHawk 1!
Nothing new I would have thought?

Dan

Unless you're a poor sap like me who has to work every weekend.

Jimi

JPK or Heppell?

Traderlyf

tough one but im pretty sure JPK has a very high BE so could get him cheaper in a week or two

Jc

This is why I am culling van Berlo and building the war chest. Then also get the benefit of emergency loopholes using the other two.

The Bont

Can't wait till Heeney and Clark rip out 100s next week. Way too early to be culling.

Jc

Whoops comment above was for you mate. Culling van berlo instead of heeny or Clark for that very reason.

Nicholas

Who do I ditch for Tarrant. Heeney, lambert, Salem, Clark. I alrdy have Krak so that's not a problem and I think my other trade I'd tbc to franklin who looks rly ripe.

SCaddict

Lambert is the obvious choice as he is on the LTI list.

Pacca

First time question as really unsure. Want to bring in both Krak and Tarrant, thinking NVB for Krak and Tex for Taz pocketing a few hundred k to add to my already large $440k to start upgrades.

Or do I pass up Taz and upgrade Tex to Buddy (or someone else)

Current fwds: Gray, Dusty, Swan, tex, Salem, hogan (Clark, Lambert)

Juzzy

Hi Pacca,

I am also tempted by Buddy this week but if I was you I would go Taz. I don't know when we might next find a more obvious cash generator . It seems you have the cash to get Buddy next week anyway.
Do you have another fwd rookie to trade for Tarrant ? Lambert, Clarke,Hogan. It might be worth thinking about it. I don't have Tex but I have a feeling he might go large on the weekend.

Ethan

bringing in taz will force you to make 3 trades instead of 2. but if you need the cash cows. get taz

Tyler

When will Mumford hit his lowest price?

Thebighix

G'day community, need some guidance!

What to do with the underperforming Jack Newnes with only $26k banked??
Is he a hold and hope he comes along or take the trade, bank a little cash and bring in someone like Ibbotson?
Cheers,

Ethan

if you listen to the podcast. We have no certantity who will be the top 6-8 defenders this year

Jester

This week I will be bringing in Tarrant for Ahmed Saad. I will also get Krak but who goes out – NVB, Heeny or Clark?

Joel

Hi Jester, I have got the same problem. Gone with NVB due to his BE. It's a hard call though.

Jc

Same. Also then see pod as almost everyone else getting rid of heeny or Clark.

Ethan

trade out NVB, with heeney and clark not playing you are at no risk of losing cash on them

matt

yes that is true but after this week nvb has MEL STKILDA GWS.. he might not lose money .. well for heeney even if he rips out a nice score he will still be cheaper than nvb… so i think heeney is time to go..

thoughts???

matt

meaning more likely to generate more cash from nvb

Matt

Which 1 should I place on the bench, Cripps, Vandenberg or Ellis-Yolmen?

Jc

Loophole crips in case he has a stinker or injury tonight

matt

how you mean loophole… do i need a midfielder not playing at all to be able to do that?

Crowmagnon

yes Matt.

Wheels1987

bench CRIPPS

he will be getting more attention than Jock Reynolds, down at the beach in a g-string

cheers

Wheels
Team Name: Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

@thecowza

also remember Judd's back.. tag should still go to Judd but expect 75-80 outta cripps at best.

Wheels1987

good point!

Jim

Who should i bring in for will minson? Stefan martin?

General Soreness

Goldy if you can afford him.

Crowmagnon

If you already have Goldstein, who then General? Looking for a long term relationship with the next one.

ATeam12345

great pod with Luenberger out of the team, he killed it last week!

I N Pieman

Community keep your eyes on one young Daniel Mackenzie. Pick 22 from last years draft. Has been named to play for the saints. Despite an extended bench he's named on the ground so you'd think he's playing for sure. We may well have a very significant downgrade option in a few weeks. He has the priceless Def/Mid status. Of the potential defensive downgrade options that we may have this season this fella was by far the one I was most excited about.

Ethan

Job Security?

TOPHAWK1

If he plays a good debut game this weekend, then I say his job security could get pretty good.

If he struggles, then obviously his job security will be in question.

Bit like life in general really.

TOPHAWK1

I agree 100%. I will be watching him like a (TOP) hawk this week. LOL

G

Folks need your advice

Scotty Thompson or Mundy?

Please help

Thanks

Ethan

Play the percentages, Mundy is a proven scorer in the past and is in good form

TOPHAWK1

Mundy.

In good form and a lot younger than the veteran Scotty Thompson.

Mundy does occasionally have down games, but overall he scores big scores more often than not.

Cheers

Wheels1987

neither

wait on Mundy, too expensive atm

cheers

Wheels
Team Name: Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

youngy55

I see them both as unreliable scorers, could you go for someone else possible. Mundy is something like 580K and I feel like that is a lot to pay for him.

Could you wait a couple of weeks? for those fallen premos.

Hold your trades if you can

Declan

van Berlo or Heeny out for krakouer?

TOPHAWK1

If you need fast cash for the warchest, its NVB for Krakouer. If you do not need fast cash, its Heeney out for Krakouer. Benefits in both.

Its a tough call though. Heeney misses this week AND with that 7 last week will now take MUCH longer to get to his breakeven price now, but if he does there is probably still 120-140K in him. Are you prepared risk sitting on him for longer in the hope he will get there, or is it simply not worth it as the game has probably moved on too much by then for that to still be a relevant option.

I reckon Heeney out, Krakouer in.

If NVB continues to under achieve, you can still get rid of him later on.

Just my take though.

Cheers

General Soreness

NvB for mine, but I do not like NvB as an SC option so I am biased.

Nato

the question with this one is whether Heeney can get back into the team now that Mitchell is in.
My worry is that i keep him and dump NVB, then we dont see Heeney again for a while and the whole point of keeping him goes out the window. Remember that the swans said that subbing him last week was not due to his ankle (take what you will from those comments though i guess)

Thoughts?

Declan

That has made my decision even harder, now that T Mitchell is back it makes things a lot more interesting

May go Heeney now, was leaning more towards NVB but i dont know now

@OssieTerron

Who do you axe first Kane Lambert or Mitch Clark? I am leaning to lambert as a long term injury.

General Soreness

Lambert.

grub

Newnes and Lumumba. Hold or trade?

TOPHAWK1

Hi grub,

Hold for now. I have both Newnes and Lumumba. Both guys not setting the world on fire, but are still scoring and not bleeding too much cash at this stage. IMO it is important to get your rookie structures perfect so you can make the maximum amount of cash. If Newnes and Lumumba continue to perform poorly over the next 2-3 weeks, then it is is time to go bang bang!

Cheers

General Soreness

Hold.

Sarah

My forward line is a disaster zone this week: Clark, Lycett and Lamb all out and Swan and Gray with possible 'late out' concerns.

I know I've been saying all preseason that ruck backup is essential this year, but Lycett is useless to me if he's not playing!
My trade options this week have become Lycett to Tarrant, and Heeney to Krakouer. The plan will be to trade in a fwd/ruck at a later date if either Goldy or Maric miss a week, rather than trade them out. These trades will generate me a ton of cash and will enable me to cover 1 late out… but not two. Please please please Swanny, please play tonight so I can relax over the weekend…

TOPHAWK1

Hi Sarah

Hell yeah!! Get rid of that Lycett and FAST!! The guy is seriously overrated and trading him out for Tarrant is the way to go. I like Heeney to Krak as well. Heeney will take forever to get to his BE price now. (7 last week and not playing this week). He is strategically much less relevant in the game now.

Also, the cash that Lycett frees up for you will be very handy I reckon.

I have Goldy and Maric too. (Loving it….) I am pretty confident these guys will hold up injury wise. (Touch wood) Both rarely suffer injuries so with a bit of luck you may be able to get away without a back up ruckman for a week or two. Calculated risk worth taking IMO. I have TBC as my back up ruck, and I am not overly pleased with his output, but he has been serviceable and is playing, unlike Lycett. He burnman!

Cheers

Sarah

Hi TOPHAWK1,

He sure is a burnman!! The numbers looked good in the preseason but hasn't delivered at all and has been painful to watch. TBC has been ok, as you say, at least he's playing!! Hopefully I can get by without cover for at least a few weeks.

Phil

I reckon Ryder is the one to get if you're looking for ruck cover. He's probably bottomed out now and will give you a close to 100 average with or without Lobbe as he has his whole career.

Sarah

I'll bring him in when I need ruck cover I reckon. He's got scope for a poor game and to drop a bit more in value yet.

ATeam12345

Clark to Tarrant
or
Salem to Tarrant
Clark more money to make but not sure on injury status.
Salem's next 3 games are shite. Don't think he'll make an awful lot more.
TBC is another option but could go big this game….

Tofor

Like everyone else, been considering getting Krak and Tarrant in this week…
Is anyone else really concerned/skeptical about Krak's JS??? I mean, Port welcoming back a few this week (and still a few more to come) and Krak is the last named on an extended bench..? He needs to play 3-4 more games to generate worthwhile cash… Will this even happen? He's surely a doubt to play this week, or if he does to get the vest..
Looks more likely we'll see those games out of Tarrant I think. Yeah he's injury prone but he just needs 3-4 more good games.
I really can't decide who to trade out.. Can I trade out Heeney.. he's only out short term, and still has cash to make.. will he be managed? increase before the byes..? Prob not. Rich is another one.. breakeven of 65 or something.. but still providing imput too good to get rid of… If Clarke is only out short term.. how can I ditch him so early? Lonie? Salem? Hogan? Still feels too early…
Cripps, vandenberg, Sheed, Ellis Yolmen.. can't ditch them yet.
Might end up doing Heeney to Tarrant via swingset and just leave the Krak..?
Thoughts?

Jdogg

Yeah I would be hesitant to trade rich out this week. He is likely to go big against GC this weekend.

Sarah

Krak being listed last on the extended bench means nothing as they're listed in jumper number order.

Locked and Loaded

Sarah although last on an extended bench doen't matter I agree they are not and never have been listed in jumper order unless Hinkley has OCD

Sarah

Hey Locked and Loaded. Each week there are a few teams in jumper number order on the bench. This week Collingwood, Richmond, Brisbane, North, St Kilda and Port are all listed in jumper number order. I'm not making this up! I've noticed it each week as I try to determine which rookies are at risk of being given the vest! Vandenberg has been listed last on the bench a couple of times but hasn't been given the vest at all.

Crowmagnon

You're right Sarah, some teams list interchange by jumper number, others alphabetically, and some in their true bench order. Bloody confusing.

Locked and Loaded

WOW I do then aopologise although do they know they are not making it any easier for us Coaches??

Tofor

I didn't know that Sarah, thanks!

General Soreness

Cracking podcast with brilliant work by the call in's especially Big "Walt Whitman" Ben.

I must add though, I do not think that the Rich to Krak trade is a bad one, big war chest, may result in double upgrade in 2-3 weeks. i.e. Rich>Krak….wait….Vandy>JPK, CEY>Rocky as an example. 3 trades. If you go Heeney>Krak….smaller war chest….wait…Rich>JPK. no warchest then to get Rocky need to go CEY>downtorook, Krak/Cripps>Rocky. 4 trades.

I also think that going Clark or Salem down to go TBC to Goldy is very wise. Despite Goldy's price point he is 20pts clear of next best and whilst he comes with a hefty price he will produce 40pts more at worst over TBC. Tarrant should provide similar or better output than Clark or Salem hence 40+pt gain per week.

Just my 2c.

Wheels1987

rich to krak = good option

cheers

Wheels
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Jimi

Community I have a dilemma. I already have 750k in the warchest, wiht the number of cash generating rookies I feel it is too much to have off the field at this stage.

I'm looking to upgrade Heeney to a super premium and I'm tossing up between JPK or Heppell. Neither is totally ideal (Hep probably at or near his ceiling, JPK is still set to drop a bit of coin), however all the other potential top 8 mids (Pendles, Treloar, Rocky, Watson etc.) will still all drop a lot of cash before the bye, and I'm not yet convinced that the early bolters like Mundy, Sheil and Hannebury will stay top 8 by the end of the season.

The other option is to put off an upgrade for another week and either trade Heeney for Tarrant, or just save the trade altogether.
What are your thoughts community?

Sarah

The name of the game is ultimately points! Spend away! Maybe go for the premo option you think will drop the least in price from this point on… but you need those points.

Wheels1987

without knowing who your top 8 MIDS are its hard to say

If you dont have FYFE, PENDLES and SLOAN then you need these 3

I rate HEPPELL as the next best choice

cheers

Wheels
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Jimi

I have Fyfe, Sloan, Griffin, Parker, CEY, Krakouer, Cripps, AVB, (Heeny, Miller, Anderson).

I've decided to give those ultra premos another week to drop in value and instead trade Anderson to Tarrant (swinging Lambert).

Leaves me skinny in the mids this week, but allows for double super premo upgrade next week.

Wheels1987

Well as long as you have a plan

Stick to your structures !

Cozza

NVB or Heeney to Krak?

Thinking Heeney still has money to make – still has a makeable BE despite the 7 – whereas NVB's BE has reached his average, or just about. Leaning towards NVB

ATeam12345

I'm worried that they'll vest Heeney on his return

Wheels1987

trade NVB this week
Heeney next week

cheers

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zeesus

For every trade you burn bringing in a rookie now, you will have to burn a further 2 trades to upgrade to a premo. I'm holding this week.

General Soreness

That is not correct.

Those that do not generate the cash will be left with trades but no cash. It is a balancing act.

I predict that the winner this year will most likely have traded into both Krak and Tarrant if they did not have them.

General Soreness

Providing Krak plays of course. JS still ? able.

Tofor

Yeah, I'm really concerned about Krak's JS… not sure whether or not to get him.
He's currently listed as the LAST player on an extended bench… not even guaranteed to play this week..
At least Tarrant is listed as CHB

Wheels1987

As long as you are trading up or down i cant see any trade a waste. (Unless LTI)

Sideways is always a waste. Except for this time of the season. You absolutely need to sideways some rookies early otherwise you have no warchest

cheers

Wheels
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Brewmaster

Need to bring in Tarrant, who do I say goodbye to. Salem, Clark or Heeney?

Help Community.

Tofor

I'm thinking Heeney, Salem, Clark in that order of preference.
No guarantee when Heeney comes back, whether he'll be managed, wear the vest, and he's carrying a low score.
Salem's prob got an extra 50-100k in him, but Tarrant should make more than that if he plays just 3-4 games.

Brewmaster

thanks Tofor, agree.

Wheels1987

with Tom MITCHELL back in for the swans Heeney could struggle

i say HEENEY

Brewmaster

Thanks Wheels, you've confirmed my gut feeling.

Goodbye Heeney, love the way you play but your service is no longer required.

Tofor

Ha ha tough but fair!

Liam

Great stuff boys
Just wondering do we trade Heeney and Clark now that they are out or hold
cheers.

Sarah

I'm holding Clark, purely because his BE is -14, so he'll make money in his first game back… whereas Heeney won't make as much money in his first game back and has become a vest risk.

Tofor

Thoughts on Jack Martin guys?
Named. High ceiling potential, scored 110 and 95 or something in rounds 2 and 3, before 39 and injured last week.
Worth keeping, could still gain 100k and have a decent output..? Prob won't be a FWD keeper though at the end of the year and likely to be inconsistent.

Wheels1987

I think you missed the boat here mate.

as a wise man once said "Dog who chase get exhausted"

cheers

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Tofor

Ha ha, nah I'm saying I've already got him wheels..
Is he worth keeping?
I think I'll hold.

Wheels1987

oh yea! haha sorry mate
yea def keep!!!!!!

Ethan

no fallen premium has come through as of yet in the fwd line so i would hold

Petar

Can anyone shed any light as to why there hasn't been any Flesh for Fantasy the past couple of weeks??

Sarah

Maybe it's too early in the season??

Locked and Loaded

If you have the majority of cash cows only take a punt on one of Krak and Taz (sounds like a looney tunes). You cannot have them all and its not necessary to have them all. Towards the end of the year I gurantee you woud rather have one trade left and 20k in the bank than no trades and 200k. Be smart. Foir those struggling for the best rookies then by all means look at getting both.

Chris

Am I the only one with serious concerns about the Krak??? He's prone to some seriously "soft" attacks on the ball. Surprises he didn't get dropped after one in the last quarter against North. Only on extended bench this week. He'll get dropped well before the byes and if Port have a good injury run he won't get back in. His job security is terrible in my view – look beyond the 82 points.

Really nervous and if he wasn't basement priced I wouldn't even be considering him. Still leaning towards a no.

Tarrant on the other hand is a lock. Injury is his concern but when he does get right he can play at least half a season and that's all I need him to do. Given his current form I can't pass him by.

Wheels1987

If all your lines are good, then dont waste a trade. But with such a tasty BE you only need another 2-3 games out of him to gain considerable $$$
Any more than those 3-4 games are a bonus

Same goes for Tarrant

Phil

Worried about Kraks JS? Tarrant has a fit Hansen breathing down his neck, 1 bad game and he could be gonesky. But like Wheels says they only need to play a couple more games to be worthwhile and any more is a bonus so I reckon it's probably a bigger risk not taking them.

Harry

I agree with you Chris. Port is super strong and Impey also to come back soon. Who goes back on the rookie list if Krakouer doesn't also? I got Tarrant in early last week and am holding my trade for Krak. I'm much more interested in 2 debutants: Corey Ellis (richmond) and Josh Glenn (GCS). Particularly the latter is mature age and is in for O'Meara who is definitely out all season

PJay

Don't' pay too much attention to his position on the extended bench. Port are one of the few teams that list their interchange list in order of jersey number.