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The Bruyn Manoeuvre – Don’t Panic!

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John Bruyn - The DimmawitsG’day all and welcome to the latest edition of the Bruyn Manoeuvre.

Geez, what a season we’re having! I know for most people a weekend hasn’t gone by without a key injury, a high scoring bench selection or (and!?) a lackluster Captain choice.

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While these sorts of things can make you want to throw in the towel, give up on the 50k and focus on 2016 – don’t despair just yet. It’s only round 5, plenty can happen.

At this stage what your starting squad looked like will no longer influence where you end up ranking. What’s done is done. What’s matters now are your trading strategies – and where you sit in the rankings should influence how you apply them.

No matter where you are ranked it’s obvious you need to target the best of the best players.

Captain worthy midfielders are your first choice in this regard. I won’t linger here. If you don’t own Nathan Fyfe, you should – and start planning on how you plan to pick up Rocky and Gaz soon enough. If Rory Sloane’s performance taught us anything last weekend, it was not to lose sight of just how few players are worthy of carrying our C each week. Throwing the VC on a Swan, Martin or Franklin is always a worthy move but it’s big a risk following this up with the C on a form player. My guess is that Pendlebury will be a popular VC choice come this Friday night.

Supercoach’s no. 2 ranked player is currently Todd Goldstein. Every one of the top 10 teams has him in the rucks. If you are ranked highly he needs to be traded in ASAP! Simply put, he is building a gap between those with him and without him. I think a defensive trade is needed to close that gap.

If, like me however, you are an unfortunate coach who doesn’t own him (and are not ranked at the top of the pile) I think you have an interesting choice. He is priced at $615k and climbing. Unless you’re sitting on a kitty and bringing Goldstein in isn’t going to hijack your trade plans – don’t chase him. Instead I would recommend staying focused on looking for value in fallen premiums these next few weeks and target Goldstein when our rookies really peak in value.

Put simply, you need to find points others don’t have. Patience and planning are rewarded in this game. Trading in the Goldstein’s of this world are NOT bad trades but they are the vanilla moves most others pursue. Will trading him in lift you out of the pack? Probably not, but smart value trading might. Choosing which trades NOT to make will some weeks be more important than the ones you do.

I will be a very interested, and at times nervous, observer of the Bont’s performance week to week having chosen not to trade him in last weekend. I’ve made the decision to pursue players like Goddard, Franklin, Harvey or eventually Bartel & Lids to complete my forward line partially because so many players have made the opposite choice.

In the next few weeks some mids will be available at very attractive prices. Stevie J, Luke Parker and Michael Barlow are all shaping as popular trade ins. With JPK, Gaz and Rocky right behind them however I’m not sure I’ll be chasing them. Before you go filling too many of your mid slots in the next few weeks, think ahead to the final team you want.

When I make my trades in the coming weeks my focus will be on bringing in consistent high scoring players with proven scoring histories. Trading in guys like Tom McDonald who appear to have crossed that allusive premium threshold is a bit like selecting mid-pricers in your starting team. It’s especially risky if you are bringing them in at the top of their price cycle, so be prepared to let the boat sail. I’m happy to play it safe and get Kade Simpson at a discount personally.

So, when should we start to cull our cash cows?

As a general rule we are told to wait until their break even approximately matches their average. Following this rule, we’ve probably got a week or two to wait – but a couple are starting to show signs.

Christian Salem has probably under performed on what his owners hoped but with a BE of only 12 this week there is still a good chance that he has another $50k or so to rise. If you are looking for a down/upgrade option this week however I think we could go a little early on him, particularly considering his tough upcoming draw. What’s more Salem is on field for most coaches, thus an upgrade should yield extra points whilst a downgrade may not lose any. Consider trading cash cows you own that have this kind of profile first. On the flip side Heeney in the mids is a hold. I think he’s got a bit more cash to make us and we aren’t exposed to his score each week – just keep him on your bench.

Finally, if you are ranked highly don’t become trade obsessed to ‘stay ahead’. Your squad is probably pretty well set up. Back the guys you’ve got now that have been performing well. In fact, preserving a few trades is probably a good move in the coming weeks. That doesn’t mean don’t trade – you need the best cash cows and shouldn’t pass up a bargain priced premium – but put some trust in the gap you’ve put on others. Consolidate a bit towards the byes before putting the foot down. Where you are ranked after round 23 is what matters.

Good luck all,

JB.


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Tony

Some great words of wisdom in trying times JB !
On the same thought process as Salem would you apply this to Hogan ? Key position player with maybe some very limited
Supply coming up with Melbourne's next 5 games ?

Cheers,
Tony

Jye

I'd definitely be keeping Hogan, his big score last weekend will stay with him for the next 2 weeks so he should still have plenty of $ left in him.

JohnBruyn

Keep Hogan mate, scoring better than Salem and you can't get rid of me all at once.

tom

is Brodie Smith a good option?

Looking at bringing him in next week as hes price should drop this week but not sure if he is a good option or not?

already have simpson and shaw

Harrison

same, i have all three i brought in smith for kolo last week i should have waited and could have avioded the 60 which stained my pants but look everyone in defence this year inst up to much chop. I'd be waiting until his price drops tom if you can wait

JohnBruyn

He is but he's pricey. His 60 will hang around a awhile yet. Look at cheaper options with attractive BEs

Danners16

Wait a week, he is playing in the midfield more now so he could be a good pick

TJM

Brilliant Article! So who would you get in. I want to get Tarrent and Krak in. Was thinking originally going Heeney to Krak and Lambert to Tarrent but this article has made me think about Salem to Krak and Lambert to Tarrent. What's everyone else's views on this. Also, should I be looking to offload Goodes this week?

Dan

I'm in the same boat here. Except got Lamb not Lambert. I think Heeny has more cash to make as does Salem. Def doing Lamb to Krak, but may hold on the other trade. Tarrant is very very tempting, but has a long injury history.

BigDropKick

Agree with you Dan re Tarrant / injuries / played 40 games in 8 years …. have Lambert and Lamb ; Lamb to the slaughter for Krak . Just doing 1 trade this week .

Ethan

Salem got a low BE so thats a no. if you really need krak go take off heeney, he will make money in the long term but for the next few weeks his price will stall and gives us more cash generation

JohnBruyn

Kraks a must. Tarrant only needs to score tow 50s and he'll make you $100k which is hard to pass up at this point.
If Salem is your F5 or F6 I'd move him but Heeney is doable too. Does depend on your team a bit so back your judgement,

Locked and Loaded

Great post clears a lot up for me. Very tempted to bring in Tarrant for Salem this week although I am afraid of his injury history. Your call on Heeney I think is spot on a few culled Dom Tyson too early last year and missed significant cash while wasting a trade. Tough choices this week I think Krakouer may be the only one I bring in but Tarrant could easily find a way in for Salem.

TJM

Who did trade for Krak?

Locked and Loaded

Ahmed Saad spewing he got the subs vest last week was making some good cash

Anders

wise words jb! i need some advice as to what to do with Luke Parker, Jack Newnes or Kade Kolo.. should i trade them or hold all of them? i have about $190k in the kitty! advice would be good as gold
cheers

Ethan

Hold parker and newnes, im not sure what to do with kk but rest assure, both parker and newnes have seen the worst and can only go up.

randomcliche

Agreed. @Anders, you only need to think of this way, look at the number of people who are going to bring Parker in over the next 3 weeks. Consider yourself one trade ahead. I know it might not feel like that…but hey. Focus on rookie and midpricer upgrades based around closeness to break even & point scoring capacity. I know most teams have more dud rookies, Lamb/Lambert or DEF rookies who are soon approaching their BE get read to harvest first I say.

Youngster

Don't even think about trading Luke Parker!

Juzzy

I would hold all 3.
Now that Swallow and Malceski are out KK will have to step up.
Also Weller will be back for the Saints which will free Newnes up.

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Derek

Great point about swallow being out. That should give Miller more midfield time as well at Thumper

Northerner

Really impressed with Rocket’s faith he’s shown the kid. He did take a couple of weeks to settle and did lack confidence in the first 2 games, but the last two games he has been solid and his 80s are helpful. Agree next couple of weeks he may be asked to do even a bit more. Hopefully that turbo charges his output and cash generation. This year there has been plenty of cash on offer to this point. Key will be the quality of the trade down targets we get from here.

JohnBruyn

I'd keep Luke. Hurts I know but a pointless trade. Newnes and KK are luxury trades. Only consider moving if everything e,we in your team kicks ass. Maybe look at building a kitty and upgrade around them. Then upgrade them last,

Wheels1987

i would hold em all mate

cheers

WHEELS

Team Name : Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

Brett

JB need your thoughts.
Newnes to Hibberd? What do you think? Or should we hold Newnes?
Community your thoughts aswell. I am really stumped on this one

Ben

Hold, whats the upside of doing that trade? Saints are hopefully never going to use Newnes as a tagger again he could easily score a 100 next week while smith/simpson/hibbo etc. all score 70ish. You would've been kidding ya self if you though he'll go 95/100+ every week. Just be selling a player at a low point.

Tyler

On the flip side though newnes could have another dud score of 60-70 while smith/simpson/hibbo go 100+

Ethan

Weller is back in this week so newnes should be unleashed on the wing. hibberd does have some more cash to bleed out before picking him up. Newnes still may go down but everyone has him and we have no assurance who will end up being a top 6 defender at the end of season

randomcliche

I assure you Hodge will! 🙂

Jayden

I assure you hodge Isnt guaranteed top 6 based on overall points as he will get rested later on

JohnBruyn

Try upgrade to hibbard from elsewhere.

JohnBruyn

It's a luxury trade mate

Anders

wise words jb! i need some advice as to what to do with Luke Parker, Jack Newnes or Kade Kolo.. should i trade them or hold all of them? i have about $190k in the kitty! advice would be good as gold.
cheers

tom

who needs to go first?

oxley or mcintosh?

Sparrow

Seedsman consolidating a spot may see Oxley pushed out has been subbed twice this year. So in saying that Oxley might bigw one

Spifflicator

We won't know until this week or next, If one cranks out an 80 we will need to keep him. Wait and see.

Ethan

neither and that should be decided on a later date depending on their scores

Kev

Not a pressing matter, tom. Oxley b/e 12 and Macca 29. Let them fatten up fully before trading them in

JohnBruyn

See if Oxley gets sub this week. Keep both for now. Maybe bench Oxley.

jake

masterpiece of an article, you gave me a second look. Now i think it best to keep heeney even though he may not play he is on my bench normally so that doesnt matter. But trading down salem to a krakour gives me more $$$ and will score similar points.

JohnBruyn

Good to hear mate cheers

Haz

To everyone wanting to trade Newnes, Parker etc. Please do. If everyone is wasting trades and chasing points it'll help me climb up the rankings. Cheers.

chrissovan

Me too mate, me too

zeesus

I hope they are the same people who wasted a trade getting rid of Cripps after one game. They'll have nothing left by round 15!

Harrison

Current rookies and potential trades. I want to bring in Tarrant and the Krak. I have Heeney, Lambert, Miller, wallis, mcintosh, clark, lonie, salem, hogan, ellis yoeman, cripps, oxley, saad, newnes, goodes, vandenberg
I have 27 trades and $37,400.
Im keeping newnes wallis also the likes of salem hogan ellis yoeman, cripps, oxley, saad, miller, heeney, clark, lonie mcintosh vandenberg
so my options of trades are goodes and lambert
Only problem is goodes is a defender and i have no swingset
Trades so far: Gaz to fyfe, kolo to smith, bartell to bont
Would you consider doing a lambert trade to tarrant/krak and maybe another trade but who to tarrant/krak
Who is more of a priority?
Is it worth holding wallis and newnes
Current rank 11,584 not doing too well

Ethan

down wallis, up goodes

Harrison

why would i get rid of wallis and who would i bring in for goodes? I already have shaw simpson and smith

randomcliche

I traded Wells last week, hear me out I know you don't have him. Wells impacted by calf injury, but may be named this week, could go bang, more likely I think slower cash G than initially expected. 60odd in point cycle doesn't help in lead up to bye rounds. Similarities to Wells and Wallis is not lost on me and I think it provides a good study.

I also have Wallis, I thought he was going to my clear POD, given 3%? had him. I still think he is worth holding in certain situations, but is out for another 2. Its the relative cash generation (given 15 in cycle) vs value of the trade and expected period of holding. I think over the next 3 weeks, you can make over $100k by trading Wallis to Krak/Tarrant. I don't think that the point scoring capacity is going to offset that, Although at the beginning of the season I hoped one or all of Rich, Wallis & Wells would average 110. I value a trade at approx $100k, so I'm doing it. Welcome Krak and Tarrant to team randomcliche.

Northernsoul74

Wallis apparently training well and feeling good. He'll be back soon so def hold.

Harrison

thankyou, im thinking of lambert to krakour

Sully321

I'm ranked 4,026
Hi community,
I've got lamb and jed Anderson and 56k in the bank
And my current rucks are Nic nat and Jacobs
I could go lamb to Tarrant but then wouldn't have enough for Jacobs to Goldstein
If I moved Krakour into my midfield and trade out Anderson for Tarrant
Which would leave enough money for Jacobs
Your thoughts
Thanks in advance

Ethan

jee tough one. if your really desperate to get goldy, then make that trade. Having lamb on the bench isnt the end of the world

Richard

Don't be insane and swap Jacobs for Goldy….read the above. Jacobs has the potential to go big…trade other lines.. Worry about Goldy later…

Derek

I’ll be getting Sauce in next week, has his big round 2 score going out of his price next week, I’m getting him in

JohnBruyn

Stick with Sauce mate

Penny

Sinclair to krakour
And or
McGrath/Lonie to Tarrant
25 trades left. To do both one or the other or neither. Stumped….

Ethan

mcrath to tarrant, lonie will still play

Penny

Mm maybe I'll do McGrath for krakour and pocket $60000 straight away and save my trades 🙂

Boofa

I dumped McGrath for Tarrant and I suggest you do to. I wouldn’t guarantee he recovers from his injury this year

Penny

Mm food for thought thanks guys!

JohnBruyn

Trade te injured player mate

chrissovan

Great article Jon, totally agree with finding valued premiums and gathering points from players that have great scoring history. I tend to look at fanfooty a lot and check on the high ceiling players and consistencyz

Harrison

John* Bruyn

Bontemgasmic

Great article JB

You have backed up my thinking about the Goldy gap (I'm ranked 430) , but this week is cash cows, and with upcoming cheap premiums I think I'll let things play out for a few weeks – hopefully Maric and Nic Nat can bridge the gap somewhat.
If the gap continues to grow I will have to pull the trigger.

JohnBruyn

Good move mate. Playing it smart I like it

Jimmy

Need ya help JB

I’ve gone lamb for Tarrant this week and not sure if I should use my other trade on wines who remains on my bench to a Cripps or Krak. I’m more turning towards Krak for more cash to upgrade but Cripps is looking good.

Thoughts much appreciated.

JohnBruyn

Yep, check wines is a few weeks away and then go him to Krak. Look to spend the cash next week though don't keep there or it will cost points

Brian

I went Lamb to Dickson from the Dogs after tons. Now have to decide if I go Dickson to Tarrent and take the 65k profit or hold as potentially could make a lot more!

In two minds!

@t_woof

Using too many trades there Brian.

1. Lamb > Dickson
2. Tarrant < Dickson
3. Tarrant > Premium

3 trades seems too many. Think you have to ride out Dickson.

Brian

Thanks that’s what my gut was telling me. Saving trades is one of my priorities this year. Hopefully Dickson will regain his early form!

JohnBruyn

Too many trades mate. Keep Dickson if that's where you are at

Brian

Thanks. Hopefully he might turn out to be a POD if everyone is going to Tarrant.

noob

Looking to do 2 trades this week boys.

Either

wines —> krak
lambert –> tarrant
leaves me with one premo down but a great war chest.

or

heeney/NVB –> krak
lambert –> tarrant

if i do the second option it will still leave me with 100k or so but leaves 550k (wines) stuck on the bench for another week.

liam

option 2 if you have cover for wines.
Wines to rocky in a couple of weeks is looking a good pickup with his massive BE

Northerner

Agree. NVB to go over Heeney

JohnBruyn

Tricky, leaning towards one because you'll probably face same situation next week otherwise.
Just check Wines' progress

noob

Thanks mate was checking Ports injury scenario because of krak and him being on the rookie list his replacement is still listed as 4 weeks ok…. TICK

Also Wines listed as 3-4 weeks leaning towards option 1 as I can keep NVB for at least this week will either go up a bit or stay the same price and pick up a fallen premo with the 400k I would now have.

eatemalive

90% plus Teams will be trading Krak n Taz in this week, any forward thinking on who we will be putting the VC on this week ? I'm seriously considering C.Judd , week off,Friday night look at me,the Mick thing – Any thoughts ?

Charlesy

I’m thinking Selwood on the G v Richmond loophole into Fyfe v Melbourne mate

Tony

I also toyed with the idea of VC to Judd, because I like a Friday night VC. But I've decided on Pendles again, because I'd be happy to take the extra POD points if Judd goes big, but not waste the VC if he doesn't. Then make a decision on retaining Pendles' (more reliable?) score or going to Fyfe / Goldy / Sloane.

JohnBruyn

Thumbs up mate

JMG

I’m gonna get Krak this wk, can do for McGrath in the forwards and pocket the cash

Just wondering tho if I should trade J Nelson for Krak instead and open up DPP link in mids and then trade McGrath for Tarrent. Will make about $75K doing these two trades, not much.

So not sure if this is wasting a trade as Nelson has low B/E but isn’t scoring well or making too much cash. I have Heeney also as potential trade.

I’ve only used 2 trades so far, thoughts?

Traderlyf

youll make a lot more then 75k

JohnBruyn

Mcgrath

Jonathan

Need thoughts on if this is a good move or not community.

Luke Parker out for Dyson Heppell who comes in and straight onto the C against St Kilda

eatemalive

nuh, hold he will come good, you have to look at the whole book just not 1 chapter

@t_woof

Heppell v St Kilda: 57, 88, 80, 90. Stick with Parker.

JohnBruyn

Hold buddy

Monte Casino

How many trades should we ideally have left going into the bye rounds?
And how many left after the bye rounds?

Juzzy

Fantastic article JB.

NVB to Krak is a no-brainer for me. The Tarrant decision is a lot different. If I had a fwd line with Lamb,Mcgrath or Lambert it would be easy, but my whole fwd line are playing and the rookies are still appreciating. My initial reaction was don't waste a trade as everyone is burning through them. But … are we all going to end up with 12 peaked out rookies with nobody to go down to ?
Hamling, Steele, Goddard, Laverde ? Maybe, Maybe.
I don't think we will be as blessed this season to have 2 such obvious rook choices in one week so I say take the cash and run. Be it Heeney, Salem etc,etc.

Northernsoul74

I agree, take the rookies while they are there. No idea who and when the next cows will come along.

JohnBruyn

Makes sense mate

Penny

You need two trades per cash cow into premium. Roughly 16 for most people. And I'm guessing about 10 trades for injuries. I know I'm pushing my luck with injury trades D:

Andrew

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Hamish

Actually seems good, I’ll give them a like.

Liam

Love the article JB,

I have 56k in the bank currently

Do i go: 1. TBC to Tarrant and NVB to krak

or 2: just 1 trade, NVB to tarrant via lambert DPP

Which one??

Hamish

How many trades u got left mate and what’s ur overall rank? Helps determine ur position and which ones u should do

Liam

25 trades left and sitting just over 8500th

Hamish

I reckon option 1 mate, cash generation and adds cash to ur war chest for upgrade in couple weeks time.

Derek

Lambert to Taz. Lambert not playing, NVB and TBC still playing ok

JohnBruyn

What's your fwd bench? Probably 2. What if you need ruck coverage soon! Expensive trade if so!

JohnBruyn

I'd take Krak too not tarrant

@boltie_monster

Should I go heeney to krakouer or hold heeney? Ive already made a trade of lamb to tarrant

Hamish

I think go for it. Firstly that 7 will be in Heeney breakeven calculation for 3 weeks, therefore delaying his price rise. Secondarily Krak looks awesome and he kicks a lot instead of handballing.

JohnBruyn

Salem first imo

Danners16

Heeney to Krak is good, you won't find a rookie that cheap too often

Kano

Great article JB. Was along the lines of my thinking, which is why im thinking (team selection pending) of downgrading NVB as I think while he might make a little more money,having thompson back in the side has effected his scores and they wont be much higher than his current breakeven. The crouch bros will also be pushing for selection which makes his JS lower. Then thinking goodes or mcintosh to hibberd who has a breakeven of 90 which I think is achievable. Happy to pay 460000 for a premo. Still will have around 180000 in the bank and an extra premo in my teams. Would appreciate the communities thoughts/advice.

JohnBruyn

I like it maye

psyrick

Hi community, this is my first time posting and my first year of serious SC, the last time I played GWS weren't even a team yet and I didn't understand the game. I'm going brilliantly somehow though, mostly thanks to this community and my good mate, and I am going well for trades and have even managed to upgrade Bellchambers to Grundy this week, already having Goldstein. I was just wondering how much cash I should be aiming to have for the big premo drops coming up, I got 14K after this weeks trades, and most of the good rookies.

Kev

Welcome to the community, psyrick. There is no magic number mate. There is a general consensus for rookie trading though:
a) has gone up 200-250k in value
b) their breakeven is higher than their average at which point they start losing money.

When either of these two things happen you trade them down for a rookie. Giving you a tidy sum to upgrade another rookie to a reliable scorer

psyrick

Thanks, while I did think it was just that, I didn't want to be missing out on some magic number that would guarantee you x and y for cheap haha. Good solid advice though, thankfully I have avoided pulling the gun early on any of my rookies, so I will just follow the script when it comes to most of them.

derek

I would hold off the TBC to Grundy trade. I know it looks good on paper, but you will find you will need to upgrade Grundy at a later date and you might not have trades to do that or have more urgent issues to deal with. I would hold off one more week and then go TBC to either Mummy or Sauce.

Sauce will have his big round 2 score dropping out of his 3 week average after this week, so I can see him dropping in price further but that might be his bottom. Mummy has his poor week 3 score dropping out of his average in two weeks time, so I think next week will be the cheapest Mummy will fall to. So I would hold getting grundy and get in one of those two next week

psyrick

Yeah, now that I think about it you may be on the money, I also have realised Grundy being a younger body, is very unlikely to play out 22, which is probably another why you are thinking he'd only be a pivot. While Ryder is tempting, I personally believe he will go up with Lobbe in the team, I know the big Hink will rest him during the season at any sign of fatigue or injury, so I think Sauce (Sam Jacobs I presume) might be a good option next week, he'll likely play a lot of the 22. Cheers man.

skate or die

help! do i pull the pin on scott lycett (i have the cash) or hold?? Lycett is currently in my ruck with bellchambers.

JohnBruyn

Upgrade imo

Danners16

He has to go, maybe to Nic Nat or Maric

MoshedPotatoes

Currently 679th with a midfield full of players people have been jumping off. I have Griffen, Parker, Martin, Beams, Dangerfield, Cripps and then the actual performers Lewis & Fyfe. I have no clue on if to trade some of these mids to fallen premiums or just continue with this midfield which is becoming more of a POD each week with everyone jumping off.

MoshedPotatoes

i have $298k in the bank and 25 trades remaining. got krak and tarrant in this week for two injured rookies

Ps. I also have Newnes

@TheNoLanguage

I would hold mate, I have all of those except Danger and Lewis and ranked similarly. Stick by your premos focus on getting the rookies right. Keep an eye on Newnes and maybe upgrade him near the byes if his output wanes.

JohnBruyn

Go for the best not pod players,judge them on that's basis

Stevie

Before trades I have 7 of the top 10 traded out players this week in my team, how many do u have? Stupid shoal already in a panic.

dean billman

How do you see the top 10? I can only see the top 5 on my page.

Stevie

Under the analyser tab in the right side column it has most traded, traded in and traded out. Do u have super coach gold?

@TheNoLanguage

Hey guys,

Some great comments on here about holding our nuts and not panic trading, I tend to agree. Fortunately I've avoided a lot of carnage so far and ranked 796, also only used two trades. I still have Lamb and McGrath on my forward bench however so this week I am thinking of going McGrath to Tarrant in FWD and NVB to Krak opening up DPP swing. Leaves me with 306k in the warchest for upgrades. Good move??

Jon

Sounds good to me. It looks like emergencies will be needed in the forward line for at least a few weeks with Gray and Swan (assuming you have them), and NVB has a BE of 64, which is not too dissimilar to what he has averaged since 2012. I am downgrading NVB myself.

JohnBruyn

Do it buddy

derek

I would hold NVB and trade out Lamb. I don't think he will be playing for some time. best to have warm bodies.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Cautious with trading. NVB was the must have two weeks and a lot of teams traded cripps to get him in as they were the same price Thommo came back NVB flatlined and cripps has now over taken him with serious $ to come. Now it is NVB to Tarrant. Hope history doesn’t repeat itself. Treat those trades carefully.

Stevie

Good call, that and his easier draw coming up are the reasons I'm keeping him. I think Scotty could be rested in one of the easier games after the showdown also.

SCaddict

There's a risk in every trade you make or DON'T make. Perhaps the Tarrant trade won't work out but right now he's looking like the fastest and easiest $250K plus we've seen in Supercoach for a while.

I think anyone would be crazy to turn that kind of opportunity down but obviously every coach has to make their own call and do what they believe is best for their team.

So I would caution all coaches who don't trade him in this week as next week when he likely shoots up $100K it will all be too late to change your mind as that ship will well and truly have sailed!

POLLY

Agree addict. Just saying don’t get too excited with the trade button. This week I’m going lambert to Tarrant and Anderson to krak. No Brainer really on those trades. Leaves me 26. Then Rich – Sloane Rd 7.

nathan

Gday community

My dilemma is i need goldy

but money to be made with rookies in krakour and tarrant

So i take goldy and moss the boat on one of the boys and if so who?

Or wait an extra couple of week to bring goldy in?

Kev

Did you read JB thoughts on this, nathan? Paragraph 5 mate

nathan

Yeah mate
He says if it doesn’t hijack ua team to leave it
It was a trade I wasn’t looking at doing because I wasn’t expecting ruckman to score like he has been
I still have 11 players making me some considerable amount of money and if I inject krak or Tarrant that makes it 12
I need 8 players to make a side worth keeping
And If I trade in some fallen premos I won’t need as much money to get these blokes either
So it’s either I lose 300/350k or 50 points per most weeks
How long will goldy be priced this high?? Will be most the year
So do I take him now while I wait for my rookies to appreciate more or wait????? It’s tuff
I had a real bad week last week
And have fallen off the pace a bit and this might just steady the ship for a while

Sarah

Goldy won't go up in price anywhere near as much as the two rookies. Therefore, the numbers say you should trade in the rookies and get Goldy next week.

nathan

I’m leaning that way
But
Hard to pass up
He was a last minute out in my starting line up as well

Sarah

Let me put it this way… Goldy will still be available at roughly the same price next week while Krak and Tarrant won't be.
At the end of the day it's your decision though.

nathan

True true
It makes more sense to take the rookies the more I think about it with the help of the community like yourself
Cheers

Danners16

Depends on who your rucks are. If you have Minson, Bellchambers, Leuenberger, it is worth the trade to Goldstein. I wouldn't trade someone like a Nic Nat yet, he is not doing that badly. Keep faith in your premiums

Jess

Will probably go Anderson to Krak. Debating whether to use second trade on Lamb to Tarrant, or upgrade one of Lumumba / Newnes.

Grab the two rookies or go one down / one up? Or just grab Krak and save the second trade (have Lonie as F7)?

Tyler

Get tarrant he will make you heaps of cash worth a trade

Jono

Is he worth 2 trades is the question

Skye

Do I trade Heeney or Sinclair to krak?
And McGrath to Tarrant or hold…

Jdogg

McGrath won’t be back for 6+ weeks. Leppa won’t rush him back either. Go for it. Huge $ upside there.

Danners16

Heeney and trade McGrath

mitch

What are everyones thoughts on J.Kelly in defence? I've downgraded goodes to him this week but am worried about burning trades on a bloke that's had a couple of ok (just ok) games

Kev

Reckon you've just answered your own question there, mitch. Rule of thumb if you start second guessing a trade, reverse it.

Tofor

what about Whitecross as an alternative? Under 200k, 42 and 61 in his first two games after ages out with injury… but should improve… plus his job security is good with the Hawks down a couple of defenders.

NateCrows

Reckon he will be out this week. Crows need experience in defense. Cheeney will be back

Jdogg

Mulling over a potential move from Newnes to B.Smith. I know Smith has a high break even and will dr

Jdogg

Sorry…drop in value this week but what is Newwnes break even? Will the $ difference be negligible?

Kev

Newnes b.e 114. Facing a top of almost 20k if he hits his 72 average
Smith b.e 155. Facing a drop of around 24k if he hits his 102 average

50/50. If you've got other priorities this week you could hold off.

derek

My thoughts on Adelaide are that Thompson coming back into the team has changed the mid-field structure. He missed the first two weeks and Smith had big scores, mainly because he was playing on the wing and in the guts. Sloane also had some big scores (although he did score well in week 3 when Thompson played). Since Thompson has come back, he has dominated the disposals for the crows and I think he has affected Sloane and Smiths scoring ability. I was ready to jump from KK to smith week 3 but held because of smiths head knock. Right now I am waiting to get more information on how Thompson is affecting his scoring.

derek

sorry, you were talking about a different Smith!

TRIGGER HAPPY

No need to be sorry great analysis B Smith! Agree let’s see what happens next couple of weeks b4 jumping on the b Smith train. Do u have a similar analysis D Smith?
Andy do what your gut tells you it has obviously worked OK so far but would definitely be a POD. And with that ranking we should b listening to you and taking your advice!

NateCrows

Don't think so mate. Brodie smith would have scored a lot better if he kicked effectively and kicked a goal. He missed and kicked at around 60-65% Rory had around 20 possessions (low for him) but his effeciency was shocking too. He copped a few hard knocks and locked ginger.

john

What are you considering ranked highly?

Ethan

top 1%

General Soreness

John again pearls of wisdom at the appropriate time. Brilliant mate.

Andy

Any thoughts on Devon Smith? He was in and out all pre season and I sort of regret not having him in my side now. I know it’s early but he looks the goods after a strong finish to last season. I’m considering him as an upgrade option in the coming weeks. I’m currently ranked 1171 and need a POD to catch the leaders.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Ref comment above

Scumthorpe

Andy. POD's are that for a reason. People do not trust them or they have not got a proven record. I know smith is a newish player but have a look at his numbers for last year. He seems to get runs of higher scores interposed with a runs of lower scores. Same as this year.
When ranked at 1171 you have more chance falling than rising so I would be trying to get the template team rather than a POD. Think of it this way, you are probably 300 points behind the leader with 18 rounds to go. You need to gain an average of 16 points a week to catch them. A POD will certainly gain this for you but he more likely will also lose twice this in some weeks.
Another point, after looking at last weeks scores choosing a Fyfe over a Sloane as captain or a Vandenberg over a Heeney as sub would easily make more than a POD. Captain and Bench selection, although luck some weeks, will more than likely make the difference between the top 1000 or so teams

Andy

Thanks for the reply mate. You make some really good points. I don’t have Sloane and was happy from a competitive point of view (I think he’s a champion bloke) that he scored poorly because I knew a lot of the top teams would have had the C on him. I think choosing the right rookies on the field and the right VC and C are extremely important to chipping away to get to the top.

If you look at last week, I had Cripps on the field which was great, but also had Heeney with Vandenberg on the bench. I know these things happen but I would have been in the top 300 if Vandenberg and Heeney were swapped around. This just shows how one decision can effect your rankings dramatically!

Good luck to all!

Fluwid

Hi JB,

first time posting. Have the magazine also for the first time this year which I found great.

So my question.. you mentioned Salems break even is 12.

I used a Breakeven calculation I got off another website

(PRICE/5350 X 3) – last 2 scores = BE

I did Salems calculation and got 7.

How did you get 12? I wouldn’t mind knowing your calculations, and do they normally work out for you. Do you pay for supercoach gold? Is that worth the extra?

cheers,

Fluwid.

Locked and Loaded

SC gold is definitely helpful. Not sure which site your using to calculate break evens and to clear up his BE is 17.

derek

just get SC Gold!

Alec

Thinking of trading in R.Tarrant this week, and trading out either C.Salem or K.Lambert or T.Lamb due to they are not playing? also is K.Lambert or T.Lamb injured or just not being selected?

Sarah

Both Lambert and Lamb are injured.

BomberSam

Sound like good trades to me. Lambert and Lamb are both injured, and will be for a while.

Pales

So… have trades up my sleeve and havnt used many, but considering Lamb -> Tarrant, and Van Berlo -> Scott Thompson.

Thoughts? Should i maybe bring in Krakouer instead of Thompson?

Pales

Or even Rich -> Thompson?

BomberSam

Lamb to Tarrant is fine, many others probably making the same trade. Van Berlo to Krakouer is probably the most popular trade of the round. It will give you a lot of cash, but bringing in Scott Thompson is a bit of a shark move that could close the gap if it goes well. I personally would be going for safety and adding to my bank, but it's risk vs. reward and I don't think the risk is too big!

derek

you are chacing last weeks points with Thompson. with trades up your sleeve, I'd be grabbing the cash with krak and looking at Thompson's output over the next couple of weeks.

NateCrows

Monster article! How do you find undies to house the enormous girth of your testicles.

So much great advice in this article, so many options to come in a short amount of time trading into the byes looks like where the game will be won.

chandanrajdb

Hello Community,

Is it worth burning one trade by trading out NIC NAT to GOLDY, at the moment Goldy looks like a must have Ruckmen…..thoughts would be much appreciated….I am saying this as “burning a trade” because it is actually a sideways trade that I am considering to do with Nic Nat to Goldy…..Still regretting that last minute swaping of GOLDY from my starting line up…..

My Current Rucks are:

I Maric & Nic Nat

Thinking of below trade options, I have already got Krak in my team….if I do 2 trades this week will be left with 25 trades…

OPTION – 1: Do one trade and get on Tarrant by trading Tom Bellchambers
OUT: TBC
IN: Tarrant
left with $197k (approx) in the warchest…

OPTION – 2:
OUT: Nic Nat & TBC
IN: Goldy & Tarrant
left with $52,000 (approx) in the warchest…..

If I go with Option 1, i will have to wait for sometime till I get Goldy and hope he drops in price (I will only consider to bring in GOLDY if both of my current RUCKS do not step up in scoring in the next few weeks). Next week thinking of upgrading Salem to Paddy Ryder, which brings back the Ruck cover lost due to trading of TBC this week…

Tending towards Option – 1, communities thoughts will be really appreciated…..

Cheers,
RAJ

Danners16

Option 1, Nic Nat isn't going that badly at the moment, Goldstein will come down in price soon

Sarah

Option 1

Wheels

my advice is do nothing

leave nic nat and TBC

cheers

WHEELS

Team Name : Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

Locked and Loaded

Salem or Heeney to Tarrant? Considering waiting to see if Heeney is the sub and if he is bye bye Isaac.

Danners16

Heeney, Salem is more of a chance to go up yet

Wheels

hold until teams released tonight mate

cheers

WHEELS

Team Name : Pnorkle900
Ranked: 9581

Locked and Loaded

Cheers guys. Wheels will even wait up until the bounce of the syd game

TommyD21

Need your help community

This week looking at building my war chest to upgrade in the following weeks
Advice on trades this week, looking at doing the following

OUT
Bellchambers and NVB

IN
Tarrant and Krakouer

Leaves me with a bank of $393,400 which I can use to upgrade the likes of Newnes, Heeney ETC

Or am I better to hold onto NVB and trade out Lamb who is injured, but leaves me with a lot less cash?

Danners16

Trades sound good

Sarah

I'd go for the trade which make money. That's what I'm doing. I'm holding onto Lamb to use for captains loophole.

Wheels

i would hold TBC.

Rucks are fickle this season and you could loose your cover

that said, i dont even have TBC but i had to trade out Minson last week so that wasnt ideal