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PODCAST: Fallen Premium Season

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Supercoach 2015The Fallen Premium.

These goliaths of our game should be first and foremost on our mind as we look to construct teams chock full of Supercoach silk moving into a critical round 5.
The carnage has continued on into round 4 – but we must draw upon our robust constitutions to remain disciplined – to stick to our structures – and to be savage in our pursuit of excellence community.
Enjoy the show folks.

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Brillsy21

Hold Parker? or trade

min0008

Hold

Hazey

Same dilemma here. 2nd half was better last round and the run gets a bit easier for the Swannies, so I’m leaning towards holding.

SCaddict

Reckon the worst is over for Parker holders. The worm looked like it turned in the second half last night. Swans have a good run now so those tons are probably not far away.

@TheNoLanguage

What about people that don't have him addict? I'm considering a Rich upgrade to Parker this week as I think Rich has done his job.

SCaddict

For those without him just wait for him to post his first ton for the season and then go bang!

Probably has more cash to leak for those who are interested to snap him up.

Marco_Polo94

Hold mate he will come good. Showed signs of getting back into it this week.

scrofl

Hold, stick by your premiums.

Jackybluch

hold

Jackybluch

gday fellas . got any ideas on upgrading a defender rookie to a premo defender. i have nathan brown and 500 K in the bank. Have players to decide on. Brodie Smith, Alex Rance, Hooker or Hodgey. any thoughts???

@themisfitsSC

hold

tom

is it worth trading down brown to kelly/harris andrews?

and should we pull the pin early on salem/hogan/clark to bring in webb?

Danners16

Brown to Kelly, and Clark to Webb sounds good if you have Krak and Tarrant

@TylerCArmstrong

I want to bring in Tarrant, but I don't have anyone to trade out!

SCaddict

Fortunately I still have Bartel so that's an easy $400K for the war chest!

But yes all our forward rookies that are playing are flying!

@johnson_tragic

It might not help you specifically however I'll be trading him in via bellchambers…

Chris

Getting rid of Bellchambers for Tarrant. Upgrade Goodes to premo down back

Canny the Manny

Yeah, I really like this trade, although I assum you’re sacrificing that ruck backup in TBC, big risk.

Mr chan

Well I have goldy n Nic Nat in ruck. Bell at front for cover but I’m happy to take that risk as I’m leaking points bad

Mr chan

By the way, this means I can still hold heeny in mids for loopholes. Have a feeling he will be back earlier and can generate me more cash

Bye Week

I've moved on TBC for tarrant as well. Sacrificing my ruck swing.
But having over 300k tied up in a player producing 60-70 each week just for that off chance that one of my rucks will miss a game is too much. Especially when fwd rookies are matching or outperforming his output. So having that much money sitting on the bench seems like a big waste

Mr chan

Yeah I’m pretty confident that is a good move and not wasting the $$ on rookie players score from tbc. But it’s so difficult finding a premo defender or $500+ mid. Won’t be moving on heeny yet. Goodes to hooker/hibberd sounds good to me

scrofl

I'm trading out Van Berlo for Tarrant, by swinging Krakouer from my forwards into my mids. Oh the joys of DPP players!

Jacko

How will that even work

CrackersFC

Trade NVB out, swing Krak into the mids, giving you space in the Fwds and then trade in Tarrant.

Josh

That’s my issue to! I think I’ll trade out Salem

MC

Trade van berlo for Tarrant swinging with the likes of bont Martin swan or gray, and when the likes of hogan Salem and Clarke Tarrant have ripened swing your mid/ fwd back to the fwd and upgrade your ripened rookies to an ultra premo in the mids! Hope this makes sense! Hahaha

tom

time to trade Newnes? If so, to who?

already have simpson and shaw and will wait for Smith as he should drop.

splinter

gibson or murphy, solid choices

Josh

Hibberd??

carlashirley90

Who to trade out for Tarrent? TBC, Salem, Hogan, Lonie or M.Clarke?
I am thinking of Salem but would love your thoughts thanks guys

aussiekid

i would go clark but thats just me only cause he relys on 1 big quarter for most his points.

SCaddict

Out of those guys TBC would be the one as he's appeared to have plateaued in price and an injury risk anyway.

@johnson_tragic

Bellchambers. Salem still has cash to appreciate. Bellchambers will begin to fall as essendon does I worry (coming from an essendon fan)

Mic

I would trade Lonie

Sarah

I'm probably going to trade out Salem as I didn't really want to select him in the first place and the demons are about to hit a very difficult few weeks with games against Freo, Swans and Hawks.

Seaford Scouse

I’d expect TBC (like most Bombers players) to improve given their completely under-done pre-season is clearly having an affect on their overall fitness, especially in final quarters. When he’s up and running I’d be expecting 80-90 from TBC, also haven’t seen him with Giles in yet which may give him greater goal-scoring ability. I’d hold him personally just for insurance purposes, he could prove very valuable later in the season when trades are at a premium and your r1/2 goes down. Of the others mentioned salems done an ok job so far but has shown rookie inconsistencies so he’d probably be top of the list for me.

@themisfitsSC

yes salem would be the one there for sure

scrofl

I think so, yes. Last week his stats were great, but his DE% was awful. I was convinced he'd step up his game this week and have a big one, but no. He's just going to keep losing value, trade him to a proper premium while there isn't as big a gap between their prices!

MC

Enright is a rock

noob

I'm disgusted at my team… I'm embarrased to say I only scored 1804

I'm stuck!..
What can I do with my team? Please help as I am in a time of need.

def: shaw, lumumba, newmes, saad, mcintosh, oxley (brown, goodes)
mid: fyfe, sloane, beams, parker, steven, CEY, NVB, vandenberg (heeney, wines, newton)
ruck: maric, nic nat (read)
fwd: swan, dusty, TBC, hogan, salem, clarke (gray, lambert)
have no money but 28 trades left.

would love to get in krakour and tarrant but I might have to sacrifice one of them to trade out an under performing premo
please help community.

aussiekid

put gray back on field for clark trade clark for krak thats about 120k than upgrade one of lumumba, newnes

scrofl

Trade NVB to Krak (NVB has a breakeven of 64 this week, and I don't think he'll reach it), and then trade out Lambert for Tarrant, seeing as how Lambert won't play for another 6+ weeks anyway.

Vlastuin Paradise

Van Berlo’s BE is getting very close to his average because of two poor showings in a row, but I don’t think he will score sub 50 too often. Crows draw coming into the byes is tasty and if he averages 70 from here will stil generate another 50k or so.

Injuries to rookies may dictate your outs, and Lambert needs to go. If Heeney is out for 4+, I think Matt’s suggestion is the way ahead.

Liam

Heeney should be good for this weekend

SOOnami

NVB out for Krak. Wines needs to go but if you wanna keep him, you could move swanny or dusty over to MID position and pick up tarrant. You can always move swan or dusty back later when your forwards mature.

Pat

dont panic. you have a team who under performed last week, no need to panic.

If i were you I would swap Goodes to J.Kelly and pocket yourself 100k, then swap Lambert to either Tarrant or Krakouer.

My mindset is not to trade out people who are still getting a game each week and generating cash (ie Heeney – pending he isnt injured longer than 2-3 weeks etc)

goodluck

Wombattered

Wines to Krak – Ollie is gone for 4 more weeks and will score sub 100 first couple of games back. Getting Krak opens up your mid-for swing.
PLUS
NVB to Pendle
OR
TBC/lamb to Tarrant
or
Goodes to TMac

Ethan

if you really need krakour and tarrant down tbc and wines. its way too long to hold such a valuable player

MC

Heeney for krak, van berlo for Tarrant banking you plenty of chest. See my above post if unsure how to turn van berlo to Tarrant

Epidemick

Van berko to krakour. Lambert to tarrant

Nathan

Parker out? Newnes out? Or walker out?

Only one

I’m trading lamb for Tarrant

I’d like krakour but trading a premo out for a rookie doesn’t seem great but worth doing at this stage coz my team is struggling

scrofl

Parker will come good, not sold on Walker yet but he has potential.Give Newnes the flick., he's not playing anywhere near good enough to keep.

Bye Week

Newnes has been playing rubbish…. But picking a top player in defense is just guess work. Has been no real standouts in def.
I'm holding Newnes (an hoping)

nick

would keep newns just for one more week always stick with the the best players but get rid of players like harry o he is crap

Harry

Mumford? Newnes? Kelly? Bellchambers? Walker? Wallis? All my underperforming players, should I trade any?

nick

keep mummy he is getting warmed up I bought Ibbotson in for lumbia and Kelly in for ramsey

Bye Week

The only thing saving TBC from being mass traded is a lot of people brought him in for the ruck swing

Thomas

What should I do with the skin flute

SCaddict

If he doesn't play again this week he has to go in my view especially if it's costing you a donut.

Buddy tex

Sandi out or hold????

Danzo

Just hold, don't burn a trade

cow roll

Trade. —Sandi has too many helpers so he doesn't need to contest for balls.

AUSSIEKID

surely if heeney is on your bench downgrade to krak theres 130k

SCaddict

Kraks needs to come in plain and simple so if Heeney is your best option then pull the trigger. I'm prepared to be patient on Heeney myself as I reckon there's still at least another $150K-$200K in the kid.

aussiekid

thanks for advice, thoughts on devon smith ?

Bog rat

Had him in all preseason wish I kept him in

SCaddict

Really like him but I still prefer Buddy at that price point. But that's just a personal preference so if you're keen on the talented GWS youngster I'd say go for it.

Ethan

unless you have no one else to downgrade, then sacrifice heeney but remember, heeney has still a decent cash cow and will continue to make cash

Caz

Hi jock is heeney down to krakour and someone like salem down to robbie tarrent with doing this week.

aussiekid

yeah but would only do 1 of those downgrade trades

Canny the Manny

Why only one?
Both their breakevens will be around rock bottom meaning huge cash generation. The only reason you should even consider using the one trade this week is if you’ve used 6 trades already this season. BANG BANG.

Youngster

You can't jump on every kid that looks like he's going up because trades are too valuable at the tail end of the season. Every single week there are good reasons to use 2 trades and come the bye rounds, you'll have a good reason to use all 3. But you simply can't trade like that. Sometimes you just have to pass. To use the money they make, it's two trades to get them in and two trades to step up/down. But if you have a plan and using 2 trades on two cash cows is part of it, then BANG BANG.

Sarah

I agree you can't jump on every kid but you need to take the good ones when they come along as the options dry up as the season progresses. There are a few in each position to consider this weekend but I will be jumping on Tarrant and Krakouer… banking about $400k and then starting my upgrades to fallen premiums next week.

Caz

Ok have decided to go McGrath to tarrent instead and heeney to krak. This leaves me with 500k to start upgrading next week.

Ethan

Salem will continue to generate cash, its way to early to be spamming trades in order to get the new rookies in

MC

Do not trade any playing rooks in fwd for Tarrant still making cash

Ryan

Scored 2311 so not too many problems at the moment, one possibly being trent Mckenzie, might hold for a week or two.
I was thinking Tarrant for McGrath and krakouer for heeney, along with trades I've made previously I'll have a bit over 400k in the bank to upgrade mckenzie and possibly Walters. Good trades or keep heeney and miss out on krakouer?
Thanks community

Hazey

Sounds like yr in a solid position with great strategy Ryan!

I’d do it.

@TheNoLanguage

Coming off 2223 I'm pulling the trigger on NVB to Krak and Lamb to Tarrant. Gives me 300k to beef up my mids the week after.

anthonyc12

Only scored 1880, went from ranked 200 to 2000 but must remain strong…

Do I double downgrade Goodes to Tarrant and Salem to Krakour, or do I go downgrade to Krakour and then upgrade Goodes to a defensive premium? (lets be honest there is no defensive player you could consider a premium)

Ryan

I'd consider hooker a premium defender

anthonyc12

Yes you may be correct, Hooker is probably the defensive player I would bring in as an upgrade to Goodes.

And I think Heeney to Krakour rather than Salem to Krakour.

SideBySidebottom

A 27 year old defender who's only averaged above 70 three times and has a highest annual average of 79 is not a premium defender in any way, shape or form.

Booma

Harry Taylor & Bob Murphy also ones to consider.

Peter Dobson

I’m thinking it is time to say goodbye to Hurn. He was a risk that didn’t pay off and is leaking cash. What do you think community hold our hurl.

SCaddict

Yeah Shannon Burn has just never worked out for fantasy purposes. At the start of every season he looks great but he can never really deliver for fantasy coaches.

The only problem is which premo to swap him for as consistent elite defenders have been non existent this season.

Redgumwon

Enright or Hibbert

jimmydowland

sunday podcast on me birthday, cheers jock !

aussiekid

thoughts on d. smith and buddy ? or any other suggestions
have swan, gray, martin

r2d2

Has rich nearly done his job ?? Or 1 more ?? And thinking flicking tbc for Tarrant , or working out a way to get Ryder in for tbc in 2 weeks time

SCaddict

Yep Rich has served his purpose and close to plateauing with a BE of 78 this weekend but you could leave it a week or two if you have other priorities.

Tarrant is definitely a priority this week for ALL coaches that don't already have him.

My trades at this early stage will be Bartel –> Tarrant and Newnes –> WhiteX as I already have Kraks which will leave me with a sizable war chest of $1M for upgrades over the next month.

ATeam12345

a million already!?!

SCaddict

Yeah I'll have to rename my side Addicts Cashcows as after these trades I'll have 18 players less than $350K all likely to appreciate in price not including TBC who appears to have reached his ceiling more or less.

Will probably take some hits in league matches over the next month but should be a beast by the byes. Given how flaky premos have been this season it probably makes sense to invest in rookies right now as most of them are performing superbly anyway.

Eventually the waters should settle around the byes on which premos should be our upgrade targets. That's my strategy in 2015 fwiw.

jewels

hey mate how many trades you expect to have after byes?

SCaddict

Hard to say jewels. The plan is to be fully upgraded by the end of the byes. Hoping to have about 6-8 trades left at that stage although that will depend on how many more major injuries I cop between now and then.

@TheNoLanguage

Good call. I'm gonna leave Rich one more week and get Krak and Taz in for NVB and McGrath.

SideBySidebottom

Won't be touching Tarrant due to his continual injuries in the past.

Sarah

Only need him to play 2-3 more games to make it worth while. He was never going to be a season long keeper anyway.

SideBySidebottom

Yes, I'm hearing you Sarah. He did manage thirteen games in a row in 2012. As long as you're aware of the risk and take it on I'll be happy to congratulate you later if it pays off. I like the way he plays and hope he stays in one piece this year.

Sarah

There is no way he'll still be in my side in 13 weeks!! 4-5 will be enough.

Trab Pukcip

Assuming with that type of $$ on the bench you are only going for head to head?

Marco_Polo94

Have $540k community. Not sure I'm keen on upgrading any of my rookies yet tho as they all have low B/E. Is this the right move? Or should I be bringing in a fallen premo for larger point generation? I do have Brown out back who won't score much higher than his B/E, and I have lambert on my bench because I was thinking I would want him in my team once he is back. And I have Heaney. Should I upgrade these blokes?

dognino

Out of those I'd go brown, you would have your pick of defenders, the big decision would be who.

Juzzy

Upgrade Lambert for sure. He will be out for weeks. In the meantime you can grab your pick of the forwards.

dannyyboyy

yeah upgrade lambert this week

chris

2 trades this week. only used up 2 so far..

1st. heeney to krakour
2nd. should i go bellchambers or lamb to tarrant?

Hazey

I’m Keeping TBC for a Ryder upgrade when he bottoms out. Something to think about.

SCaddict

I like the Ryder idea too Hazey. Once he drops below $500K he will become more appealing that's for sure but not a major priority right now.

thewhale

OUT Lamb ($117,300)IN R,Tarrant ($144,700) yes or a bad trade at moment have Isaac Heeney and $233,000 left
OUT Lambert ($102,400)IN L,Webb ($117,300) GOT THE KRAK

Danners16

Sounds good

Mic

Thoughts on getting Lukas Webb in this week?

Patch

Tarrant is the go this week.

SideBySidebottom

Until he suffers another injury.

SideBySidebottom

Actually, ignore that comment.

Tony

Unfortunately he's a forward – could probably get him in if a defender.

Brillsy21

Upgrade Brett Goodes to premo or downgrade to rookie e.g Kelly/Andrews?

scrofl

Depends on your backline's structure. Personally I'm upgrading him, but that's only because I have the spare money to do so.

foxy

Thoughts on these trades would be appreciated

Out NVB and TBC

In Tarrant and Zorko (via dpp krak)

Cheers

SCaddict

Tarrant needs to come in but I wouldn't abandon NVB just yet. Crows as a whole had an absolute shocker today which always distorts plenty of scores.

Reckon the Crows will bounce back vigorously in the Showdown next weekend. Still has a very gettable BE of 64 but yes if he spuds it up next weekend then it's time to go.

Lach

Had tex walker from the start, thoughts on getting rid of him for Tarren?

Dutch Oven

I'm thinking exactly the same thing

Sub vest

Manchester United just went 1-0 down and I scored horribly not a good weekend.

SideBySidebottom

Following soccer is almost the definition of a bad weekend.

Matt

Podcast was good tonight but you left out the biggest bloody spud of the all. F***n NEWNES. We all got sucked in should I trade down to Kelly(ADE) or JK(GEE) type or upto a McDonald/Shaw/Hooker.
Thoughts? Please and Thankyou

Pumper

If you've got Mcintosh, Oxley and Saad, i don't see why you couldn't downgrade but only if you're going to upgrade another rookie to a premium.

KINGYS

Who do i trade Robbie Tarrant in for? One of Salem, Hogan, M.Clark, Lonie to go out for tarrant

Pumper

Clark would be the main one but you wouldn't get much money lefted over unless you have a lot of extra cash anyway. Salem you'd make around 130k but his still making a lot of money.

Luke

It doesn't really matter, because you bank about 80 to 130k plus what Tarrant appreciates! I would go Heaney if you can link

cow roll

Lonie coz his easy games are over and his team is woeful.

Pumper

Advice please guys
Def: Enright, Fisher, Higgins, Newnes, Oxley, Saad (Mcintosh, Hamling)
Mid: Fyfe, Sloane, Selwood, Dangerfield, Swallow, CEY, Vanderberg, Krakouer (Heeney, Miller, Lambert)
Rk: Goldstein, Maric (Read)
Fwd: Swan, Gray, Martin, Zorko, Salem, Hogan (Clark, Lonie)
9.500 left over so not a lot of money left over.
Im not to sure what to do. I do want to keep trades, but i want to build up the extra money.
I know a lot of people want Tarrant in but Trading him for Clark will still have me under 100k and Salem is still making money. Thoughts on the Webb kid? Im thinking maybe holding and letting some of the rookies earn a bit more coin then downgrading and upgrading maybe a newnes to a hodge? My big plan is too get enoguh money and upgrade a Vanderberg or Miller to Rockliff once his price dips down.

1tsm0nty

Top work as always.

JJH

Is it wrong of me to swing in a Premium FWD in to the MIDs so that I can trade Heeney to Tarrant?
Doing so will make my MIDS run to M7, and will leave me with 3 on-field Rookies…worth it for a couple of weeks till they get slaughtered?

dannyyboyy

its fine just keep in mind to swap him back, no problem with this move while we all have so many rookies on field

min0008

Who do i trade Robbie Tarrant in for? Heeney or Van Berlo (via dpp Krakouer)?
Is Newnes to Kelly a good trade or keep him?

SCaddict

Probably NVB out of those two although I'll be keeping both myself for now.

@TheNoLanguage

I'd go NVB. Higher B/E and I think unless he's injured Heeney has a lot more cash to make.

Jase

Depends on the length, if any, of Heeney's injury. If he plays, NVB if you have to. I reckon Heeneys got more mooing to do. Im keeping both. Had Anderson still so traded him out for Tarrant via the Kraken.

ATeam12345

Rocky is going to be tasty in a few weeks!

SCaddict

Yeah as per the title of this week's podcast there will be an unprecedented amount of premo bargains this season given how up and down their scoring has been. Rocky is probably the best example albeit injury induced.

GAJ will also be on the menu whenever he gets that shoulder right.

Donavan

Yes, have plans to get him in around the byes.

Hope to get a full premo midfield around byes, or whenever Ablett is ready to buy-in.

Have – Fyfe, Sloan, Lewis, Priddis
Looking to add – Rocky, Ablett, Watson & Kennedy in the next 6-7 weeks, although may need to wait on Ablett.

Winter

Out: Van Berlo & Minson In: Tarrant & Goldstein?
Also have Newnes who's really annoying me and i have Lambert on the bench who i want to get rid of for someone who's playing but because of my salary cap of about 1k, i am forced to trade down Van Berlo to Tarrant to allow me to get Goldstein from Minson who was omitted which really worries me…. I'm not really in the mood to face another doughnut this week so i really want Minson out!
Cheers :))

Tony

I reckon Lambert is worth definitely holding. Bottom priced so will cost you $ to trade him, plus his DPP makes him a perfect candidate for the emergency loophole and/or VC loophole.

Marco_Polo94

Terrific podcast. Absolutely licking my lips at the amount of premos cropping up. All my rookies being prepped for slaughter. Next month or so is going to be FUN! Not sure I agree on moving Heeney on yet, so I will wait on him. Lambert is a different story, was planning to hold but seems like the best option for me to snare Tarrant. Shall be very interesting to see how many lose patience with Newnes this week. I'm going to hold myself as I have to keep faith. Have a good week everyone!

throttlefinger

With you Marco. Think he still has some cash to make for us. Will be a slower train with that 7. Doing the same trade as you.

@HJ_Mitch

Wonderful advice and summation, Marco! The GOLD is coming for those that are patient. sluicing is the key! We have to sort the nuggets from the crap that wafts through our selections each week. The key this season for success more than any year before will be timing. When to upgrade, when to upgrade, when to pick your keepers. Sift through the pickings each week, don't react too early and time your run. It's early days yet! Trade numbers in the mid to late season are going to be most important this season.

Josh

Who do I trade out to bring in Krakouer in the midfield?
Heeney (232,500) OR Van Berlo (293,400)

SCaddict

NVB.

Be patient with Heeney I say. The kid's a star in the making and any rookie is entitled to at least one time out especially at the Freo cauldron. Could also be a useful loophole too if he misses a week or two.

L. Gibbs

who should I get in for newnes? Looking at smith and which rookie should I trade for Krakour, Heeny or nakia cockatoo

throttlefinger

Fantastic podcast. Always love when you talk about the golden age of fantasy football.

Keeping it simple this week. Goodes out for Kelly. Lambert for Tarrant. Rest just need to pull their weight more.

Traderlyf

Touk Miller to Krak
Heeney to Krak

Obviously hedging towards miller to krak but heeney has the low score to his name now affecting his BE

Traderlyf

just saw millers break even is -48…. might have to ditch heeney

dannyyboyy

good choice

Canny the Manny

Gday lads, what a weekend!
I managed to score 2287 this week which got me a weekly ranking of 272 and got my overall ranking back into the top 10,000.
Yeah, I’ll personally be going Heeney to Krackers to give me a handy fwd dpp in the guts then go Tommy Lamb to Robbie Tarrant.
I’ll be targeting Tommy Rockliff in the next few weeks with Van Berlo looking the prime cash cow to execute at this stage. Also might have to paint the fence with Newnes and Goodes down back (1 up, 1 down).

Also want to thank you Jock and Co for the morale boosting motivation and comfort, especially in the podcasts these last couple of weeks. It was a dark time and I was considering giving up all together, but it’s paid off so thanks lads!

Paul

Keep or trade tex and if trade, who to?

daddyotoole

FWD:Gray, Dusty, Goddard, Swan, Salem, Hogan, Clarke, Lonie.
Who, if anyone, should make way for Tarrant?

Canny the Manny

Lonie or Clark. But they will all still rise and you’ll be using a valuable trade to bring Tarrant in. Ask yourself what a trade is worth.

Sarah

I'm cutting Salem. Don't like what I've seen from him and Dees have Freo, Swans and Hawks in the next 3 weeks.

@t_woof

Superb podcast as per usual.

Although i'm a little surprised Jack Newnes wasn't mentioned, as he's been the subject of hefty discussion on The Standing Room this weekend. Will be very interesting to see how much his ownership drops after Round 5.

Right now, i will most likely hold him. Krak and Tarrant appear the Round 5 priorities.

A few wanting give Salem the chop already. I'll be holding for at another week minimum.

Enjoy the week ahead all.

SCaddict

Indeed there is no hurry to get rid of Salem posting a very respectable score against the Tiges.

With Freo this weekend the ball could be in the Dees backline heaps.

Sarah

He scored most of those points late and the Dees have Freo, Swans and Hawks in the next 3 weeks. I'm culling Salem this week. Haven't seen anything in him when he plays to make me think he can stand up against those teams. Having said that, now that I'm trading him out I'm sure he'll come out and score 90+!!!

Tony

Everyone who's thinking of trading Newnes – be warned that I will be starting him on the bench next week. Virtually guarantees he will ton up.

Sarah

Thanks Tony! That's very selfless of you!!

Lazy_Simmo

Yep bloody good of you Tony. Cheers for the heads up mate 😉

dognino

I'm looking forward to picking up Rockliff early once he has dropped in price. I only have 6 rd 11 byes so I need to look to pick a couple up to even out the bye rounds for me

Derek

I started with TBC at R2, hoping to get 6 games from him, bit of cash gain and be able to trade up to a fallen premium. The premiums have fallen faster than I thought and Tom isn’t killing the scoring.

Should I wait or trade up now. I would have $545k to spend

Goody is my R1

Traderlyf

id wait a little longer for the premiums to drop

daddyotoole

Mummy and Sauce both have 160+ BE's so I am probably going to wait another round (at least) to trade TBC to them

derek

Sauce has one more week before his big round 2 score drops out of his 3 week average. Leave one more week for him.

Mummy has one more week with his poor round 3 score before that drops out.

So both players will be ripe to be picked after one more week.

Paul

Trade tex to Goldstein while putting tbc in the forward line?

SCaddict

Sounds a reasonable move. Whilst it's usually not advisable to trade out your uninjured premos I think we can safely say Tex won't be anywhere near a top 6 forward this season after a month of data now.

Goldy is the must have ruck this season and it could be a long time before he is sub $600K for those waiting patiently to pick him up on the cheap.

stevie

Hello community,
In this time of forsakedness I have remained calm, made logical trades and backed in my premo selections. My reward is my current rank of 643! A rank I could never have reached without listening to the many wisdoms of the father of fantasy, Mr Jock. In years gone by sure I might have traded out a player like Cripps but not this time, i held firm, I even 'backed my gut' and played him on field! This is just one example of my personal growth as a supercoacher which I give all credit to jock and the inner sanctum.
With that being said, I need some thoughts on my trades this week.
Which is the higher priority between bringing in Tarrant or getting rid of Goodes?

SCaddict

Taz is the must have cash cow this week. All other considerations are secondary.

Are you planning something else with your other trade as you could use that to do something with Goodesy as well?

derek

I don't think even Higgo could work out a wiz-bang trade move to be able to trade Goodes to taz, you might have to use both trades this week and deal with both.

Lazy_Simmo

I'm with ya Stevie (albeit I only scored 2176). Having a pearla start to the season myself and all kudos go to Jock and the entire community. I too used the community ordaned wisdom to hold Cripps and managed to loop hole JettsAnderson for his score. I too still have Goodes warming pine but dont think he is a massive risk. If isn't named again (shouldn't be too many changes to Doggie lineup after giving Crows touch up) then no concerns for another week there.
Thinking at this stage I'll be axing Jed >Kraks & Klambert >Tazz leaving me 26 trades. Might be short on the scoring but can't ignore the early cash to chest. Huge thanks again community.

stevie

I'm using one trade on the krak, the other im leaning towards bringing in Tarrant. I have lambert and lamb and doing a straight swap will leave me with $26k or I could pull the pin on heeney and bank his cash. I think I'll deal with Goodes when a better downgrade comes of age.

nicholas

Was thinking tbc to franklin and lamber to Tarrant. The only problem with this is that I have 50k left in the bank and I still have newnes and Heaney. I alrdy have Krak so that's nor problem. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Donavan

Sounds like a good plan.

Don't worry about Heaney, if you can just hold him on the bench for a few weeks, there is more $$$ in him.

Newnes will have to wait 1 more week, but I think getting Tarrant & Buddy this week makes sense.

SideBySidebottom

If you have Belch in the forward line as ruck cover I wouldn't trade him. You'll be able to upgrade to Ryder later and maintain your structure.

James

T Miller, Heeney, or Salem out for Tarrant?

dannyyboyy

heeney if you can swing someone into the mids temporarily.

Danners16

Heeney, other two will still go up in price

Juzzy

Similar dilemma to most. Double down to Krak and Tarrant or ….
I can go Van Berlo to Krak and TBC to Franklin
This is difficult. I want Krak and Tarrant, But I can get Buddy now and I think with his draw he will go nuts.
Also reluctant to let go of TBC. He was a forward line solution to ruck issues but 60's won't cut it.
Will sleep on it 🙂

Sarah

You have to grab the cashcows when they present themselves… no ifs, ands or buts! Franklin can wait, Tarrant can't . Just bench TBC if you're not happy with his scores and start a rookie you are happy with. TBC is there for ruck cover. Better scores would be nice too but what was the main reason you selected him?

dannyyboyy

double down man, sarahs right buddy can wait, get your base structure and cash generation sorted first

Tyler

Should I hold Wines? Got plenty of cover and got a solid 2100+ score without him, plus can use him as a loophole

dannyyboyy

sounds like you can save yourself a sideways trade right there

Josh

Scored an avg 2074 with sloane as my captain.

Was thinking along the lines of these trades
Newnes to McDonald

Salem to tarrant

Nelson to krakour
Which of those three trades would you suggest doing?

Donavan

Definitely do Nelson to Krakour.

Glorin

Have had Harley bennell in from start as point of difference, but his 89 ave is quite underwhelming. Am thinking of downgrading him to Tarrent allowing me to move TBC to Goldy. ( leaving me 100k) Hate paying so much for goldy but also hate missing out on those points!

Right time to make the move or hold and hope he stinks it up against the hawks, with Bennell playing Brisbane?

Donavan

If your bringing in Tarrent it needs to be this week before his price increases.

Goldy will perform well against the Hawks even if the North team get smashed (which could happen). The Hawks haven't got a top ruck to oppose Goldy.

I say do it this week in relation to Tarrent, and anytime is a good time to bring in Goldy, as I see him continuing to score between 110 and 140 most weeks.

Danners16

Hold Bennell, he has scored that badly, he is a consistent scorer, someone that you could rely on in your forward line

Matt

I have goodes on bench with hamling, should I downgrade goodes to kelly or wait for another rookie to emerge?

Traderlyf

id ditch goodes as soon as possible. Kelly looks like a good option.

Danners16

Goodes to Kelly, you need reliable backup that won't be the sub

Luke

Who are the best defender options, mid-price verging on premium?

derek

Simpson should do ok. cheaper than start of year and looking pretty good.

tom

should we be bringing in Jake Kelly/Harris Andrews this week? or wait for better rookie options?

Pat

im going with Kelly. Downgrading Goodes and pocketing 100k

SupercoachFreak

Who should I get after trading Newnes out? In other words, who is the top defender below 460K

SideBySidebottom

I don't think we'll know for a couple more weeks. Consider holding.

Danners16

I'm getting Hibberd in for him, an underpriced reliable premo

Gregory

Bartel to Tarrant. Is this a good move or do i need to bring a premo (gray/franklin) for bartel. I think the huge cash generation could help my other lines though.

Thoughts community?

Tyler

Good move, tarrant isn't a must have, but with his breakeven he is looking mighty fine and bartel has to go he's out for 2 months+

Avzmo

This week I'm thinking Bellchambers out to Tarrant or Krakeour, like Tarrants security a little more, may also trade out NVB as he has become a very slow burner (if Heeney is alright to keep going)

Ethan

Bellchambers has 300% job security. I would hold. he only has a BE of 60 so and facing a weak st kilda midfield.

TRIGGER HAPPY

Avoided most of the carnage this weekend though low scores from Def rookies hurt but that is the risk with rookies and don’t think I was alone there. Trades this week – McGrath – Tarrant and Anderson – Krak. Make a bit of cash but upside from there huge. Big thanks to Sloan for spudding it up as looking at Rich – Sloan in two weeks once the 60 drops his price. Tasty.

JDogg

I thought the price corrections occur week to week now? No need to wait 2 weeks it dropped this morning.

Zak

Hey community, tossing around a few ideas.

What do people think of going –

Heeney > Krak
Swing Krak into the forward and Lambert into the midfield to have a strategic donut?

Or I could just go Lambert > Krak or Tarrant.

Ultimately I would like to ride Heeney through. But I think having the loophole
is important this year.

TOPHAWK1

I was planning to give Newnes the boot this week after his recent insipid performances. However, his breakeven is manageable at 113, and his scoring despite being low, has not been an absolute disaster.

The reason Newnes may get another reprieve is that after watching the Adelaide- Bulldogs and Geelong- Kangas matches, a much more urgent problem/opportunity has arisen.

1- The problem: TAYLOR WALKER
* After his round one heroics, his form since has been ordinary to say the least. And yesterday, he was nothing short of disgraceful with only 26 SC points. Perhaps the responsibility of being captain is sinking in and the pressure is starting to show..
* His breakeven now sits at 147.
* There is a possibility he will lift, but after the last 3 rounds (Especially yesterday) I can see him cracking the ton against Port.
* Very high probability he will drop in price significantly.

2- The opportunity: ROBBIE TARRANT
* Ran riot for North with 121 SC points and averages 114 SC over first 2 games.
* Still priced at $144 K till his price reset after round 5.
* Has a current breakeven of -147. The highest of any player currently.
* His price will skyrocket with even an "average" game next round. (approx $90K or more with another 100+ score)

As conserving trades and cash generation/preservation this one trade move on my part could tick all 3 boxes.

1- Getting rid of Taylor Walker is a calculated risk and is likely save me $30 K in his potential price reduction.
2- Getting in Robbie Tarrant is all upside. Current cheap price and huge price rise expected after next round.
3- This one trade will generate me $275K for the war chest right now in the trade itself and hopefully another $125K in price revaluations after the next round. That is a $400K net gain for my team in just 1 trade.
4- The $275K now in my war chest can be used to upgrade to a premium forward,(Eg Franklin), fallen premium mid (Rockliff, JPK, Parker, etc) in coming weeks, and getting rid of Newnes (Unless he lifts in the meantime) for an in form defender. (Pittard, Hooker, Seedsman etc)
P.S Got Krakouer already
Other than that despite a shocking score this of 1928 after 2237 week prior I have to keep faith in my structures and plan carefully for important player moves as the season progresses.

Gotta look forward to the next round and filing memories of round 4 into ancient history.

Cheers

derek

I would hold Tex unless he gets injured. This was your Shark move, your Bruyen move all rolled into one, and you have to see it through.

I started with Cloke. I have had to put up with snickering around the watercooler but I am staying the path. Just need one monster score to roll through his average for 3 weeks and I can walk proud again. The problem with Tex was he did it week 1 and wasn't able to get as much of a price kick as he would have later in year.

You must have someone else who you can trade Taz to? one of the lamb's?

TOPHAWK1

Hi Derek,

I have traded Lamb out already for Krakouer last week. Besides Walker, my other forwards are Hogan, Clark, Salem, Gray, Bontempelli,( DPP) D Martin,(DDP) D Swan (DPP), Bellchambers (DPP) and Krakouer (DPP).

The only other one I see as an option instead of Tex is Salem (271K) as a sacrifice to get Tarrant.

your thoughts would be great.

Cheers

TRIGGER HAPPY

That’s the risk with KPP. Can go big but can go scary low if they don’t get near the ball.

Guest

Can you stop mentioning that shit limousine business every week, and Wayne bringing in goldstein what an idiot, absolutely no idea

Sarah

Do you think this page just magically funds itself? It needs sponsors, so good on em.

BundyBear

Im with you sarah, Well said. Go get a life Guest

SideBySidebottom

Are you Wayno's father, guest?

BundyBear

I have NicNat and TBC as rucks. Am not worried about trading them. As long as they play. Not spending more for the sake of 30 or 40 points. Other more important issues to sort out elsewhere. As long as rucks play then its all good. Just my opinion thats all

I N Pieman

I can't remember ever having a worse week from 6 defenders. Combined average of 54 each. James Kelly 35 Um what. Thumper was my best defender with 83. Oh the pain! The problem is it's too early to work out who to go to. And believe me that day can't come soon enough.

BundyBear

Yeah its been crazy so far. Everytime i think I made a good move I get bitten. Ahead on last year though. When they said that its a long term goal. I didnt think 10 years LOL. Every year I start of with good intentions but then the supergods decide otherwise. im begining to believe there is no supergod. its all just luck and chances. Chances I like. Luck should be reserved for lotto. The only thing chances and luck have is in common is that there is always next week. Having said all that, My biggest problem is the same as most. That damn backline. It looks good on Friday afternoon. Then it all goes downhill from there, The drug free policy just isnt working LOL

Locked and Loaded

Pieman I honestly don't believe we'll be able to rely on any and that is why sideways trading down back especially is nuts just stick with what you've got and upgrade those rookies to those you think will be most consistent

Sarah

Same here Pieman. Defence was woeful this week.

Caz

What do you think of mcgovern from westcoast dual position intercept marks, he looks good

Locked and Loaded

If Goodes is not named I will keep him agan and wait for a fallen premium. Do people think Harris Andrews or Jake Kelly will be there saviours for Goodes? Honest question.
Trades this week
Ahmed Saad > Tarrant or Krakouer
If Krakouer I will be swingin Bont forward and using Krak as another midfield cash cow.
Or should I go Heeney > Krak and Saad > Tarrant??

Sarah

I don't think either of those boys (kelly and andrews) have very good job security.
My trades this week are VB to Krak and Salem to Tarrant. Think Salem has been lucky to make as much as he has and I'm happy to jump off the rollercoaster at the first opportunity!! Dees have a tough 3 weeks coming up.

Locked and Loaded

Hmmmm Salem still has a little more to make where as for me Saad is done. In that case would you trade Saad or Salem?

Sarah

If we're talking Ahmed Saad, then I would agree. I don't have him so for me Salem is the one who's making way. You can't miss out on a rookie who has a BE of -182!!!

Matt

Hi Sarah, do you think it’s worth trading goodes to Kelly or just hold him a bit longer?

Mike

Jock if you are the father of fantasy football then I’m going to have to call child services on you.

I’ve been getting flogged every week by Supercoach this year.

BundyBear

I traded Heeney for Krak. The benches are made of pine. No need to have dead wood on a pine bench. Worked out I needed a swing in the middle. Krak fills that need till he goes to the slaughterhouse and replaced by a fallen premium in a couple of weeks. be it forward or mid. Just glad i never got Tex. Spuds belong in market garden.

Eric

getting ride of newnes this week… not sure who to bring in?

Cale Hooker, Brodie Smith or Alex Rance?

I have 708,000 in the bank..

and my defence is…. Gibson, Johnson, (newnes trade), mcintosh, saad, oxley, brown and andrews.

any help would be great thanks.

Sarah

I'd go Smith. Crows were shocking on the weekend and shouldn't be that bad again. Smith will be the pick of the defenders this year in my opinion. Maybe wait a week though as he'll come down in price this week.

Eric

Yer I was thinking on waiting a week for Smith's price drop.. so maybe I'll wait this week and see what happens.

The only thing is this years supercoach is so up and down I just want to get in the premo's sooner rather then later.

But thanks for your advise

cheers.

Sarah

We all want to get to full premo as fast as possible. The thing is, that $20k (or however much) Smith should drop next week could be the difference in being able to afford your next upgrade. It's worth waiting this week. His BE is 153.

SideBySidebottom

I'm holding Newnes specifically due to the lack of premium options. McDonald is firming but a few more weeks of consistency is required to earn his spot in my side.

Locked and Loaded

Holding Newnes also will take one good week for him to start generating some decent scores the only way is up for him

DigDug

could someone explain the bye strategy. What would one normally go for? spreading the points evenly through each round? trading in and out on those rounds?

What should be the main objective?

Dave

My strategy is to try and get a reasonably even spread early in the season, so you don't need too many trades at bye time to get a team on the field.

A couple of weeks out from the byes, I'll start only bring in players who are out in Round 13 (or 12 at a stretch), cutting rookies who have the Round 11 bye first. As soon as the first bye passes, grab a premium or two who've already had their bye by trading out Round 12/13 rookies, and repeat the next week.

Hopefully by this point you'll have a decent team to play Round 13 and have collected 4 or more extra premiums for your side for the run home.

cooky

Community, how does Lambert to Krakour and Lamb to Tarrant sound?

Sweatyrichards

heeney>krak

Lamb>tarrrant

Or

Lambert>krak

Lamb>tarranr

Or only 1 trade

Luke