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Patch’s Panic Room – Round 4

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Deploying-a-patch-management-processOh dear. Oh goodness gracious me. One a scale of 1 to 10 of how bad the carnage this week is, I think this has flown straight past 12 and is nudging ‘Throwing a Fridge at Your Computer’ territory.

Wines. Bartel. Lamb. McGrath. Deledio to miss. Again. Nick Riewoldt, Byrne, Cooney. Doubts on The Bont’s calf. We’ve got huge issues in the backline, with Brett Goodes and Thumper Kolladajazz-however you spell it- underperforming. I’m not in the mood for spelling. I’m not in the mood for much this week community. The ruckmen not named Todd Goldstein are shot to pieces. Griffin is underperforming and we’ve only got two trades to fix it all with and the last minute news on Robbie Gray has sent my teeth gnashing and THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

AAAARRGGHH.

But we must remain calm, community. This is a test. The Supercoach Gods seek to challenge us. Those who escaped the injury carnage this week have been spared. Save those trades. Those trades will be gold in a few months, as men and women will be falling over themselves, offering their own bloody children in their outstretched hands for that final trade that would bring Our Lord and Saviour back into their sides. They are testing our faith. We must remain strong.

THE NEWS

Oliver “The Quadzilla” Wines – dislocated wrist, out for 4-6. Hurts the Power, hurts us. More job security for Krakouer but he’s got to go. I’m holding for a week because I have more issues elsewhere and am confident Heeney can come onto the field, but he’s gotta go this week or next. Push up to a super premo if you can, down to a Neale, Judd or Swan if you are strapped for cash.

James Bartel – I thought if I was going to be cursing a Jimmy four rounds in it would be James Hird for some peptide related monstrosity. Not James Bartel, a stalwart of many a Supercoach side for years and years. Unfortunately he’s gone for two months having scored a 5 for us last week. Not much we can do. Trade him to a forward premium, any premium, as long as the premium isn’t Brett the “I’ll Be Back Next Week” Delidio.

Brett the “I’ll Be Back Next Week” Delidio – I hate when coaches lie to us. I know they never know the extent of the injury, they have more to worry about but don’t tease us. I don’t have ‘Lids’ but I’m still livid that he didn’t play last week. I have no confidence he’ll be back next week, or even the week after. The rumours in the footysphere are saying a fortnight. If I had the trades, I’d flick him ASAP, if not sooner. Will cause problems all year, but he’s below the long term injuries to McGrath, Lamb, Wines and Bartel in priorities to deal with this week.

Tom Lamb & Jayden McGrath – out for 8-12 weeks each. No good. Fortunately, the #KrakIsBack, now with 70% enhanced job security due to Wines missing. If you’ve got the trades, swap ‘em over.

Riewoldt – if you are one of the 5400 people with St Nick, hold. He’ll be back next week. If they were playing in Melbourne he’s have been a chance.

Chris Judd – hasn’t made the trip across to NZ due to back problems, but will only miss one. Unless you have sneaky plans to the contrary, hold him. Same as Saint Nick, would have played a home game.

Byrne – hold. Nowhere to go and he’s not urgent. Has done a hammy and will be back in 2-3.

Robbie Gray – just when you thought you couldn’t sink lower, the Supercoach god have kicked us again. Robbie Gray will not play the Hawks tomorrow night, leaving a massive void in or forward lines. Should only be a week, but we’ve all heard that before. Thankfully we’ve got bigger fish to fry so can’t contemplate doing any more than leaving him on the pine.

THE PATCH-UP

It’s back. I’m going to briefly have a look at the backline today, as it’s a hole many of us have fallen into. 20’000 of us have Kade Kolo… Kolojazzknee, Kolla… oh I’m not even going to bother in this mood – 20’000 of us have KK and another 42 thousand are stuck with Brett Goodes. Neither gambles have paid off. If you’ve got trades to spare and the cash to do it, go to Brodie Smith or Kade Simpson or Heath Shaw if you haven’t got him. They’ll drop heaps in price throughout the year but we’ll all need them eventually. If you’ve got no cash, we don’t have any option other than sit tight. They shouldn’t leak too much cash, so sit quiet and pray they make their breakevens.

Goodes is on an extended bench, but you don’t know if he’ll get it. You’d hope not, as with a full game he’d make you a 60 or 70, but by gum he’s irritating. KK is the same. I’m going to try and loop him on the bench with Hamling and McIntosh this week, but if you can’t, I’d actually start all three of Saad, Oxley and McIntosh ahead of both of them.

The rucks have nearly cost me my hair this week, but Chicko has covered that already so I direct you to his magnificent write-up instead of badgering you about it here.

That said, with all this carnage, not too many people can afford to fix holes this week.

If you’ve got more queries, tweet me @PatchToTheMax or chuck a comment down below where I’ll do what I can to help ‘Patch’ you up.

Hehe… never gets old.

TRADING PLACES

If you need a refresh, Eddie Murphy is on the way up, and Dan Akyroyd is on the way down. But if you needed that refresher, go watch this movie again. Classic. Remember that I’m ignoring those players who are injured or those who have played only one game.*
*unless they’re Tom Rockliff

The Eddie Murphy’s
-96 – Adam Oxley
-76 – Cam Ellis-Yolman
-55 – Adam Saad
-49 – Corey Gregson
-48 – Jack Sinclair

Notable others:
vandenBerg at -23 and Touk Miller at -31

The Dan Akyroyd’s
278 – Tom Rockliff
229 – Jimmy Bartel
200 – Liam Shiels
195 – Brett Deledio
193 – Nick Malcheski

Notable others:
Mumford at 170 and Luke Parker at 166

THE ROOKIE RUMBLE

Let’s get straight into this.

Defence

If you can loop McIntosh by having a non-playing rookie on the field, do so, but otherwise start him against a weak Melbourne side. I’ve got Oxley just ahead of Saad this week. Keep Kelly on the bench after his 53-point first game last week. Whitecross a sub risk.

Oxley
McIntosh
Saad
Kelly
Brown
Whitecross

Midfield

You’ve got to start Cam Ellis-Yolman, and vandenBerg should get a full game with the vest going to Michie. Heeney has proven himself but flying to Perth puts him behind. Cripps should have a good run against Carlton. Newton and Brayshaw – as mentioned – shouldn’t get the vest, while I still think Touk Miller needs to show us more to make up for the first two 30s he gave us, despite his promising 86.

Ellis-Yolman
Cripps
vandenBerg
Heeney
Newton
Brayshaw
#TheKrak
Miller

Rucks

Ha! *cries softly*

Forwards

They’ve been dropping like flies this week, so thank god we had heaps of them to start with! Hogan has done very well, and should do okay against the Tigers. Salem should avoid too much attention and is a good starting option. Young should get the power vest, so Krakouer is also a good starting option. While Lonie has been named on the ground, he hasn’t shown us massive scoring potential, so give him a miss if you can.

Hogan
Krakouer
Clark
Salem
Saad
Lonie

Lamb, Lambert and McGrath will need to be dealt with.

That’s it from me this week community. Cross your fingers and pray we don’t lose any more premos this weekend. Good luck.


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General Soreness

Ripping work again Patch. A must read for those with time constraints but SC love.

Brett the “I’ll Be Back Next Week” Delidio – ABSOLUTE GOLD!

Mathew

No love for Harris Andrews?

Brook

I would be keener on him if his name was Andrew Harris but worth a look for next week

Bullo

I think he's worth a punt as a trade in for Goodes (esp if Goodes picks up the vest again). The Lions need talls and Andrews is tall, mobile and a pretty decent kick. I will take the risk and bring him in if Goodes is named – I really don't want to be loosing 25k on Goodes.

Mathew

Good to see I am not alone on this call. I was tossing up between Andrews and Kelly but think Andrews has marginally better JS.

Patch

He completely slipped past my radar in my grief and rage this week, thanks for the head's up! I'd pop him just under Kelly if you've got him.

Tylo

WhiteX

Beady Eye

Worth noting that his score last week was bolstered by playing backup ruck to Martin and getting a share of the hitouts.

Leuenberger is back this week, so it’s doubtful he’ll score as well with a reduced role.

Phil

Leunenberger isn't back this week and I'm thinking it's either him or Andrews to play each week but not both. Seems like they prefer Andrews purely because he's the more versatile forward allowing Martin to spend more time in the ruck.

I like Andrews JS better than Kelly but both are very risky to take after just 1 game.

Beady Eye

Fair call. I still wouldn’t be keen with the giant Berger shadow looming over him.

Stevo

Thoughts on Andrews from Lions? 117k and got 62, his JS is a worry though but played as a back up ruck to Martin

Mathew

He is filling a role for the Lions as a key forward which they are deficient in. Also looking at the team sheet he is on the field while L'Berger is on the extended bench although I would take that with a grain of salt.

Beady Eye

Rookie key forward not named Jesse Hogan?

Intriguing, but I think we know how this story ends.

Patch

Definitely give him one more week if you can.

harley

I reckon cripps wouldn’t have a good run against carlton,
But some say differently 😉 haha ^

I N Pieman

Nice on Patch. Although it's against my normal rules I think i'm going to pull the trigger a week early on Krak. Which means the gods will bust his hammy in the warm-up & leave me in the foetal position!

Nato

im toying with this as well Pieman. Im reluctant to pull the trigger this week, but i also dont know if i trust Hogan on the field against Rance (with Gray out). Im currently sitting with Lamb on the pine getting splinters in his arse

Thoughts?

Patch

I've done the same. No way to avoid it this week – we're too wracked by injuries elsewhere.

Blue Boys

Is Yolman emergency? Wont be sub will he?

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Good Work Patch!!! Enjoy reading your article's and wait patiently every week very helpful!!!

Thanks From The Yank

Bob The Dog

I know you’re not Dealing with rucks, I’m fortunate enough to only have Gray to worry about, and he will go to the pine for a week.

I am considering downgrading either Minson or Maric to Grundy. Better output for significantly less cash, will give me a basis to start upgrading rookies in a few weeks. Your thoughts on this move?

Patch

You'd have to ask Chicko on that one, but I was perilously close to downgrading Mummy to Grundy. Fraught with danger but it is a game of the bold! Look at the stats and back yourself.

@Seekersupacoach

Although I've got Wine Gray and Bartel. I'm only trading one if them: Bartel. I still think (hope) Wines will return after injury and pick up where he left off. I seriously don't want to trade him out to just trade him back in later. I am much more concerned about getting ride of Mumford for Grundy generating a war chest and fixing up other areas (KK, Goodes, Lamb, Newnes etc) later.

Bushy

witts will play next week if not the week after and Grundy wont get the time in the ruck he's getting now…. beware

Ethan

back minson he has scored well in the past
you shouldn't really go from a premo–> midprice

Northernsoul74

Minson is oddly named on the extended bench with Cordy as the on field ruck.

shane

Bevo has a sense of humour

Bontemgasmic

Its a wicked one !

Big Will omitted

SBROWN

Lids to Roughead or the Bont???

Patch

Tough, tough call. Roughead should score more – I'm not sold on the Bont… Yet.

Harry

Neither of them go to buddy or Goddard. They are more reliable and less risky

Redgumwon

What about Dusty?

SBROWN

Also, why is nobody throwing Cale Hooker's name around as a premo defender? Hasn't scored under 100 yet

Patch

He did this last year and sucked a lot in. averaged 80-odd after the byes, but he is looking bloody good.

Bye Week

He pulled that same act last year, started strong and then pulled a Houdini on us and disappeared.
First 8 games he avg ~102, with only two round going under a ton with a 69 and 80. Then he went and avg'd a 65 from there on out, with only one score over 80. (if I've calc'd correctly)

So buyer beware

Phil

I like him, Hurley seems to be taken the better forward each week which might work in Hookers favour as that's usually been his role.

Ben

Sooooooooo …… I have 2 non-playing rookies on my forward bench, Robbie Gray (who is a late out), and $131,500 in the bank … do I pull the trigger now on Krak? Take the risk and avoid the donut?

Patch

Pull the trigger. Krakouer has decent job security, at least for the next month. I've brought him in this week.

Bye Week

I'd only grab him if someone else is a late out before the port game. Krak is just as likely to go bust. Also his score last rd only helps him with one price rise.
SO if it was me I'd hold until next week unless I was forced to trade

Redgumwon

I'm in the same boat. I've got Gray, Bartel, and two rookies not playing. I've got $130,000 in the war chest to spend. I'm toying with the idea of trading Bartel for Dusty Martin.

Then I can either trade Lamb for Krak

or

I can trade Wallis in the mid for Bonte and move then move Bonte into the forward line and Gray to the midfield.

Long term I think Bartel for Dusty and Lamb for Krak might be the go. Wallis is only meant to miss 1 or 2 weeks at most.

What do you guys think?

r2d2

Anyone know anything about McInnes ??? Eagles ….

Patch

"developing key forward" eek. Give him a few games.

Ethan

will only be around for when mcgovern is out

bUCKET__

Eagles fan here. Has been developing as KPF, but took on some ruck duties in the WAFL last year and isn't bad for a chopout. Trialed as KPD end of last year and again last week in WAFL, seemed to manage. Put on a bit of size this year, good athlete. Tackles well enough, and scored well enough in the NAB cup game vs Port as a fwd/ruck.

JS is the main issue here, so put on ya watchlist but hold out for a couple. If he performs well this week he might continue to play alongside McG in defense, allowing either to swing fwd as required. Simpson in the recent press conference hinted that this would be ideal, as it allows eagles to throw some better players such as Yeo and Hurn through the middle.

john

can someone explain to me how to loop mcintosh with a non playing player on the field

Patch

hey John. Let's say you have Hamling, who 'plays' in the last match of the round, as well as McIntosh and Kolodjashnij. Leave McIntosh on the bench and put the Emergency on him. If he scores 80 tonight then leave Hamling on the field. as Hamling won't play, it means at the end of the round, you will get McIntosh's 80. However, if he score 30, then you are able to sub Hamling off for Kolodjashnij & get Kolodjashnij's score. Does that make sense or am I being too convoluted?

SBROWN

Unless of course you mean you want to Captain Loophole McIntosh. In which case you would want McIntosh on the field with the V and a non-playing player on the field with the C. You then need to have a playing player (just ensure they are not playing in tonight's game or you can't swap back if needed) on your bench as emergency. If McIntosh goes big and scores 130+ keep things as they are. If not bring the playing bench player back on and move the C to someone else you think will go big.

SBROWN

Also the non playing with the C and playing bench player need to be playing in the same position for this to work

Ethan

set mcintosh as your E
then if he scores well put the non playing player on the field for one of your defenders

Harry

Should I trade lambert to krakour even though he will start on the bench

Patch

If you have bench cover, hold off for a week.

Harry

Thanks Patch Clarks on bench so I will waite

derek

not if you are just going to put him on your bench. do it next week.

Ethan

give it one more week if your not planning to use krakour

Harry

Could someone please explain to me what happens in the bye rounds and why it's so bad to have a round 11 bye

Frank

Harry it's not bad to have a round 11 bye, but you only want 9 players or so with it. During bye rounds your top 18 SC scores count, but you can still field 22 if you have enough players. After round 11 you want to try to trade out a few players with round 12 byes for players who have just had their bye in round 11, eg Heeney out, Rockliff in. Same after round 12 you trade out a few with round 13 bye with players who had their bye in round 11 or 12 eg Vanderburg out Ablett in. Having too many players with a round 11 bye entering the bye weeks just affects your ability to get through byes without dropping too much ground on those who did it well. I'm trying to have a 9-10-11 structure at round 11- meaning 9 with round 11 bye, 10 with round 12, and 11 with round 13 bye. Aggressive players may opt for an 8-10-12 set up but it depends on whether you have all 30 players getting a game amongst other factors.

Harry

Thanks frank

jewels

flesh for fantasy?

derek

Looks like Anderson has had his chance at the Hawks. I was surprised that he got a game ahead of hartung. Anderson didn't do enough so I think we might have seen the last of him for a while. Whitecross is also back. Hawks have Shiel to come back in as well. Simpson, O'Rourke and probably even Litherland would be ahead of Anderson now. Time to move him on.

Ethan

he didnt have the best job security anyway

Bye Week

Shouldn't be surprised, Hawks have a fair bit of depth. BUT was really hoping for one more game where he'd get a decent run, the kid looks to have some talent.

AMERICANMAGPIE1

I have Hunt, Murphy, Saad, McIntosh, Oxley, and Newnes In my backline and my Emergency's are R. Henderson and J. Tippett (NM)
Should I loophole Tippet for McIntosh ?

Patch

If you can, go for it!

AMERICANMAGPIE1

I can! I will! Thanks!

derek

Thinking of getting rid of Thumper (KK) to a premium. Have $154k in bank.

Will get Smith later once his price has fallen a bit (I hope), so looking at either Brichell (on the bubble) and Kelly who has already had a $10k price drop, has an ok BE but should get more time in the guts with Bartel missing.

Most other premiums are overpriced.

Current Defence is: Shaw, Simpson, Newnes, KK, Ibottson, Oxley, McIntosh, Saad.

no major problems anywhere else, only used one trade this year to get JPK in for Gaz, so thought I would strengthen my defence.

Kelly or Birchell?

BCHawks

Hey Derek if I was you I would go Birchell. Solid option based on his form over the past few years and looked good last weekend.

Bye Week

was there any hawk that didnt look good last week?
Birch is a solid pick though. A pricier alternative may be Houli. Plays a lot like Kade Simpson so should expect some consistent +90 scores

Redgumwon

I'd go for Kelly as Birchell can score big or go missing. Kelly is very consistent

Patch

I've got Kelly and heartily endorse selecting him. Extremely solid pick and should pump out 90s every week. I haven't looked much at Birch, but it's Kelly for mine.

john

trade goodes or hold?

Ethan

ideally u need cash to trade him
jake kelly and haris andrews are good replacements

john

dont have oxley should i trade him in for goodes?

Nato

Yeah good trade. Do it

SideBySidebottom

Yes.

hangzhoudogs

trade…he is cooked

Patch

Just been dropped by the Doggies and should be by you.

jake

need peoples thoughts?
need a forward and backline premo this week who is the best pick?

Backs:
smith
Hodge
Gibson
Birchell
Rance
Houli
hooker

Fowards:
Gray
Bontempelli
roughead
Franklin
d.smith
zorko

Ethan

smith/hodge
and franklin

jake

great call

Bye Week

Gibson will be good again once Frawley returns – until then avoid.
Hooker – avoid
Birch id prov avoid too – but could be a unique pick

the remaining four I like

fwd – gray would be my top pick from that list but hes been pulled from the side this week.
I do like bonts (had him from get go) but expectations should be lowered – first two games were against avg teams and he'll now attract hard tags. High Ceiling but could be risky
Roughy and buddy will both be hit and miss as a key fwd. But when they score well they score REAL WELL. Buddy over roughy though
I wouldnt touch smith
Zorko could be interesting with less attention on him with the likes of rich rockliff and beams playing alongside him.

If you dont have a key fwd already I would go Buddy and Houli/Smith

jake

thanks heaps for the input mate love it ! at the moment im probs sitting on buddy and smith just as you confirmed with the hope of gray dropping in price and smith to just set and forget

Dutch Oven

Any Mumford holders doing a straight swap to Goldstein this week?

eatemalive

Really wanted to do it but we've only got 2 trades,decided to go another way with all the injuries. Whilst Mummy has a big BE he should go big against the Suns.

Tulendeena

I am, but I have miraculously missed the injury train, so I can afford to do it

dognino

Tempted, fate has left me with more pressing matters, so I don't have the luxury.

cow roll

do it if you can. he's going to be a $500k only. his influence has decreased as he's surrounded by future stars.

Browny

Should I trade Bartel to Buddy or Goddard? Leaning towards Goddard because mids are a more consistent. Thoughts?

Bye Week

Buddy can go bonkers with +150 scores which can be the difference between a win and a loss or top 1%. Goddard prob will be more consistent though its been looking like hes been playing up fwd a lot more compared to last year. SO buddy for me

Beady Eye

Buddy’s got McPharlin and the Freo plus-1 this week… he’s capable of torching anyone on his day, but might be worth holding off another week on Bud.

Patch

Tough. Head says Goddard but heart says Buddy.

Flipped a coin. Buddy.

Matt

Need to trade Bartel then there is Lamb and Lambert on my fwd bench. With Gray now a late out I need to switch one of Lamb or Lambert. Thoughts are:
Bartel > BJ, Swan or Buddy. All I believe will be in the top 10 forward players.
Think Lambert has a better chance to come back in once he's up and running. That being said Lamb > Krakour seems obvious.
Would love the input of the community

David

one question answers Bartel for 1 Franklin 2 Roughead 3Goddard4 other? Go nuts community!!

Flanno24

Franklin for me

Beady Eye

I’ve gone Bartel to Goddard. Was a toss up but Jock’s logic on the pod swung the vote.

Johnno

Hi Community. Worth trading Miller or Lambert to Vandenberg at this stage?

hangzhoudogs

no that ship has already sailed and Miller was better last week

joel

Lambert yes… Miller will still make you money

Beady Eye

Potentially more midfield time for Miller (his natural position) with Ablett out. A small forward he is not.

Mac

Goodes to Hugh Goddard and Kolo to Brodie Smith Yes or No?

Also what to do with Robbie Gray? Bench him?

Redgumwon

Yes bench Gray no need to trade him

Goodes to Smith if you have to trade

chris

what to do running 3 ruck scores every week..
initially i liked the idea of having mumford and nic nat in ruck, then running TBC in the fwd line as it would help around byes, however with mumford underperforming should i swap TBC into ruck and then buy a premo from another line, feel as if it is wasted with 3 rucks this year

blake

hi community i have bartel and need to trade him do i
1-trade him to franklin or roughead

2-using mid/fwd switch on lambert to get dion prestia or callan ward or any other player under 590k

Patch

Depends. If you've got strong forward line, flick him into the middle for Prestia, Watson or Ward. If not, keep him for Buddy. I'd pick Buddy over Roughie every day of the week in SC.

Conor

Robbie Gray Injured? thats what supercoach gold is saying

AMERICANMAGPIE1

yep….he's out

Redgumwon

We need a sacrifice and fast. Jock Where's Higgo?

Conor

When will Gray be back? anyone know?

Jai

That's what I want to know mate. I want Gray to franklin

Riley

Mummy to Goldy?

Mummy cant perform with these stinking new ruck system 🙁

Redgumwon

Wait until you have an injury unless you have ruck back up. By trading without an injury you're wasting a trade in my opinion

Patch

If you've got no other concerns, yes.

Jono

Community need some cooling heads before I make this trade!

Thinking of moving Parker to Swan purely to pocket some cash, avoid the bleeding with B/Es, Swan has good form and run of games, then next week being in Krak, flick swan forward and inject some more premos to midfield….thoughts on this or any other moves???

Cheers

Stickman

I think it is valid. Parker needs to be corrected and Swan will go gangbusters on ANZAC Day.

Beady Eye

Back your premiums (like Parker) or you’re just locking in the price drop.

Northernsoul74

Listen to Beady Eye. Hold your premiums, Parker will bounce back.

Redgumwon

I've got Gray, Bartel, McGrath and Lamb. I've got $130,000 in the war chest to spend. I'm toying with the idea of trading Bartel for Dusty Martin.

Then I can either trade Lamb for Krak

or

I can trade Wallis in the mid for Bonte and move then move Bonte into the forward line and Gray to the midfield.

Long term I think Bartel for Dusty and Lamb for Krak might be the go. Wallis is only meant to miss 1 or 2 weeks at most.

What do you guys think?

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Definitely Dusty!! I'd trade McGrath for Kak get more cash in war chest

Redgumwon

Thanks Americanmagpie that just might be the go

Stickman

Need to get Deledio and was going to bring in Gray. Now he is an out wondering on who to go to. Already started with the Bont, Goddard and Swan.
Cheers.

Redgumwon

Dusty I think or Buddy

Northernsoul74

If you want Gray hold. Don't trade in someone you don't want just for the sake of it.

Patch

Sage advice, Northern.

Leon

Who is best to have on field, Cripps, Heeney or Vandenberg?

Northernsoul74

Cripps.

jake

cripps

Dean

Heeney with out a doubt

Jai

Heeney for sure.

cow roll

Cripps. – he's playing centre.
can't see Heeney doing well against Freo's mids/def.

Tom

Selwood v Pendlebury

Redgumwon

Selwood

NateCrows

pendles

Northernsoul74

Minson listed as full forward for Footscray on Sunday. Wait for confirmation but may well be dropped.

Jai

Minson is out

NateCrows

yep hes out

3. votes

Should I trade or hold on Ryan Griffen?

Same goes for Jack newnes trade or hold?

jake

hold, probably bigger priorities for trades at the moment.
Griff will be up and down so dont be surprised if he bangs out 140 against goldcoast this week
newnes is scoring 70's due to very poor disposal efficiency, grated he will go down in price but if he can increase the DE by 10-15% he will score 90+

Patch

Hold both.

Beady Eye

Read Mad Mick’s article from the other week to get a better understanding of what you’re getting with Griffen.

The highs and lows are nothing new.

Locked and Loaded

Community I’m excited for another weekend of SC!! I’ve decided to hold Mummy and keep the faith if it costs me I can live with that I still believe in needing the best rucks!
On another note who to start between Mcintosh AND Oxley??

Northernsoul74

Oxley

Sully321

Got lamb, wines, lambert, gray, and jed Anderson
On top of that I got Jacobs.
I'm thinking because three of the five of the players mentioned above I go lambert/lamb/Anderson to krakour
And Jacobs to Goldstein this week (as I can afford to have wines on my bench)
I'm leaning towards trading out lambert despite the fact he is expected to be back earlier than lamb but if I keep lamb I can use him as a loophole option.
Your thoughts would appreciated
Thanks in advance

Patch

Didn't Jacobs whack out 141 last week? Hold him. Deal with the injuries first.

Northernsoul74

Hold Jacobs could break hit our records against Ayce Cordy this weekend.

David

Community, is it too late to trade in Vandenberg? Thinking of trading out Lambert or Miller to Vandenberg, or has the horse bolted now on such a trade?
Thoughts?

Sully321

I think it depends on how much money you have and how many trades you have used

jake

yeah probably not worth it now hold this week and wait to trade in krakour or tarrent

hangzhoudogs

Horse has bolted

Tyler

I reckon keep Miller, he will still go up in value but I think Lambert out for vandenberg wouldn't be that bad of a move, but if he is there for a mid-fwd swing don't waste the trade

Phil

Don't trade Miller out!!! He played as a small forward the first 2 weeks, then Gaz was out injured and a small forward Matera came in. I didn't watch the game but I imagine with a few midfielders out and Matera in, Miller might get a bit more of a run through the guts hence his bigger score. Keep.

Better off trading in Krakouer now than Vanderburg anyway, even better if you wait a week to do so. Vanderburg isn't a must have.

hangzhoudogs

Looking at either Hunt or Pittard for Goodes, people's thoughts? Have severe doubts about both

Tyler

Not worth it wait till you have the cash then upgrade him to a premo

Locked and Loaded

Taylor Hunt the cash spent vs 1 trade will make you more money after Taylor hunt appreciates in value and a defensive rookie is on the bubble

dognino

Have Bartel and Gray with a fwd bench of Lonie and lamb, . Turning Bartel into buddy, putting the E on Lonie . If Lonie spuds it up, trading lamb to krak 1 week early and put Gray on the bench, krak on field

Tom

thoughts on dion prestia?

Patch

Getting some attention and deservedly so. Prefer Watson, but only just.

B-T

Minson out!! Bulldogs twitter…

Northernsoul74

Sauce should have a day out against Cordy.

Northernsoul74

Confirmed Goodes and Minson omitted and listed as emergencies.

Brook

I want to use Goodes to loophole mcintosh tonite but worried he may be a late in and named sub … He’s like the terminator, you just can’t get rid of him! Am I paranoid or is this a legitimate concern?

Northernsoul74

I guess Bont is always a risk of late withdrawal with that calf so could be a worry that Goodes would be called up.

Phil

Very legit concern buddy. I'd just start McIntosh personally

Johnno

Bartel for Buddy or Martin?

jake

martin for consistent high scores
buddy for huge score and the odd 50-60 stinker now and then when its wet and gets plenty of attention

Sam Loy

Just a thought on Brayshaw:
He has the highest points per minute (ppm) of any rookie (1.26; CEY is the next on 1.08). He is a tackling machine, and if Roos lets him play sans vest, I expect a big score.

Patch

He shouldn't have the vest. I reckon vandenBerg is more consistent, but if you see a big score coming lock him in.

Phil

Get on him next year!!! Roos never hands games to first year players so him at least being the sub must have impressed Roos. Might be a nice mid priced midfielder that explodes

john

who to get for minson or put bellcahmbers in ruck and leave minson on the bench putting krak forward

Patch

if you can afford Goldstein, do it. Otherwise, hold with tbc in the ruck.

john

ive already got goldstein is it worth getting jacobs or nic nator a midpricer like grundy. Or is it a waste of a trade

dognino

Isn't that the reason you chose TBC? To cover rucks and save trades, otherwise your wasting points having him in your forward line

Tom

Oxley or Kamdyn Mc. Who should be starting on the field?

min0008

Oxley

TOPHAWK1

Preferably both. But if you had to chose, I would go Oxley

steve

what a mess. in fantasy, gray injured….who is best bont / franklyn / goddard / ryder (as cover to) / dahl??? bring back gray when fit? when best laid plans get buggered!

AMERICANMAGPIE1

I wouldnt waste a trade for Gray! Trade him out and bring him back when he's good??? Not a good Idea

steve

even in standard fantasy, as opposed to super coach and RDT?

Jai

Hogan,Salem,krakour who do I put on field PICK2

Donavan

Hogan & Krakour

@RyanRhino14

I was going to bring Krakouer in after this round for Lamb or Anderson if he played well and wasn't sub but with Gray out it makes it harder for me to know if he would've been sub or not and I don't know if to bring Krakouer in now or wait to see how he does

Donavan

I think Krak is worth bring in-

1. he is cheap
2. he will make money if he plays
3. he is DPP, and can be used for the loophole in both lines if he doesnt play
4. he looked good last week, wound the clock back

Paul

How does it work if I have 2 emergencies on midfielders who are playing and I loop a non playing midfielder like Judd. Do I get the best score of the two or is there an order that I get them?

@RyanRhino14

you get the worst score

Paul

Well that sucks

Donavan

you get the lowest score of the two

Conor

Selwood or Sloane?? Help needed community

Also is it worth trading Gray to Franklin or should I hold?

Marco_Polo94

HOLD. and can't go wrong with either, maybe look at how many premos you have playing in week 11 when sloane plays?

Paul

Sloane seems more consistent . I would go him

TOPHAWK1

I would go for Sloane and trading Gray for Franklin might be a bit premature IMO. Buddy might get held by Freo this week and his price could drop a litlle. If Gray is out again next week, then might be the time to pull the trigger. Save as many trades as you can early on.

Donavan

thinking of-

Gray & Newnes
to
Swan & B.Smith

Gray and Newnes likely to drop $50-60k between them, over the next 3 weeks.
Swan & B.Smith likely to increase $70k between them, over the next 3 weeks.

Had both Swan & B.Smith on the buy list for later weeks.
Would intend to buy Gray back when price bottoms out.

Thoughts please, finger is hooving over the trade button.

Nicholas

no

AMERICANMAGPIE1

I wouldnt do that! Hold Newnes and Gray! You will regret it…….and waste 2 trades to bring back gray!

Sully321

Thoughts on lachie Neale

TOPHAWK1

He is looking excellent. If you have Fyfe already, remember that come bye time, it might throw up some problems if you trade in Neale. From a cash generation perspective, Neale will likely rise another 80-100K or so and hopefully score you plenty of points as well. I am not 100% sure if this is necessarily the most strategic choice, as there may be better trading options out there. But it could work out to be a masterstroke!! Good luck.

Conor

Too Risky! personally id rather go the little bit more for Mundy then the little bit more again for Fyfe

Marco_Polo94

Stuff it going mummy to goldstein. It will bite me in the arse and mummy will double goldy's score this week I'm sure but my gut says mummy is a waste. I brought him in initially because i expected him to go BIG first 3 rounds and i didn't want to miss out on the points then planned to jump off, so while my trading plan hasn't changed i did lose money. Ah well. Goldy is a keeper and i can stop worrying about it. The fact mummy's stats are near identical to last year's when he averaged 25 points more is what has swayed me. I'm breaking super coach trading rules here i know and i'm sure i will pay the price but it is keeping me up at night!!

TOPHAWK1

If I was in your situation, I would feel the same. Mumford is such a frustrating character. He's like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get. I already have Goldstein and he is a season keeper. I have Maric as well and he is causing me some head aches as well. He better deliver tonight.

Cheers

Marco_Polo94

It's been a while since i watched forrest gump. Might chuck that in after the footy to take my mind off the super coach carnage this week ahahaha. I agree tho despite sideways trading i feel better looking at Goldy in my team.

eatemalive

Minson & Goodes have been dropped

Favalinko u Beauty

Community please answer me this, can I trade a player during rolling lockout as long as that players team has not played, but cannot reverse a trade once the first game starts.

Marco_Polo94

yep

Favalinko u Beauty

Thanks champ

Cyril is Delicious

To start Saad over Oxely this week?

Saad is up against a younger GWS side compared to Oxely who is up against a Essendon on a big day, thoughts? Cheers

Donavan

I would start both before McIntosh, but yes, start Saad before Oxeley.

TOPHAWK1

This is a big call. It can go either way. I am going with Saad this week on the field. It will be wet in Melbourne tomorrow and I am concerned it may hamper Oxley's output a bit. (192cms tall) Will be wet also in Sydney, but I hope Saad is will do better in the wet. He is a nuggety midfielder type (178cms tall). Just going with my gut here.

Sully321

Selwood, Cotchin, Watson or lewis?

Donavan

lewis, then watson

Marco_Polo94

Selwood

Phil

Selwood, Lewis, Watson then Cotchin.
Other than price, I don't know on what logic anyone could go anyone other than Selwood. He has them covered on scoring potential, ceiling, durability, and bye round.

Nicholas

who should i trade out for krak, lambert or anderson. i was thinking anderson in case tarrant goes good again so i have someone to remove to bring him in. Any advice is appreciated.

Nicholas

Another thing if i get krak in the mid i also have a mid forward swing option.

Donavan

Anderson, he is not in the hawks best 22, so will get limited opportunities all year, he may not even be in the hawks best 24, with Hartung going past him also.

Lambert is injured, but looked good, and should be in Richmonds best team.

Nicholas

who to start out of cripps yolmen, heeney, vandenburg and krak i need 3 on field.

Donavan

Cripps, Yolmen & Heeney.

If you have a non-playing mid, it would be worth loopholing, with Vandenburg playing tonight.

Phil

Defintely Cripps and Yolmen. Flip a coin out of the last 3 or loophole if you can.

Luviboy1

Last minute trade of Tex Walker to Dusty. Good or bad idea? Just dont think Tex will reach his 120 BE, compared to Dustys 64 BE.

BlakeyP

Very bad trade mate just a waste

Luviboy1

Started with Tex as a stepping stone, figure that I may as well stomp on him as early as possible. Whats your reasoning in calling it a waste?

Phil

For what it's worth I reckon Tex will reach his break even this week and as such I have him in Perfect 9. Who do Bulldogs have in defence without Morris? Roughead (Hawthorns) scored 160 against them last week, ican see Tex getting a hold to. Besides Martin won't go up that much.
Worst thing that can happen you pay a little bit more for Martin and lose a little bit on Tex. However, if Tex goes 160 you hold him for 2 more weeks and make a lot of coin.

dannyyboyy

dont stress to hard of break evens with premium type players or u will sideways trade to often tryin to chase points. hold tex, target dusty as a target upgrade down the track
i would consider it a waste to.

Ryan

Gibbs out, move saad into mid and bring smith into defence, solid trade or knee-jerk trade?
Any thoughts appreciated

sean

Robbie Gray OUT!

NO BENCH COVER!

what do I do community?

Donavan

trade Krakour in for a Lamb or Lambert if you have one.

phil

no bench cover with Gray out? Or donut with Gray out?
Defintely don't trade Gray out. If you've got no bench cover just sit tight and hope your 6 starters all play. If you're facing a donut it's definitely worth sideways trading one of your injured rookies for Krakouer or Tarrant.

TOPHAWK1

Dont panic….. LOL

Have you got a mid/forward swing set? Like Dustin martin or Bontempelli who are currently in your midfield? If so, simply switch Gray over into the midfield and put him on the bench there.

If not, a trade may be an option to create this swing set or simply trade in a new rookie (Krak or Tarrant) into your forward line for cover.

No dramas at all.

Cheers

Donavan

thinking of-

Gray & Newnes
to
Swan & B.Smith

Gray and Newnes likely to drop $50-60k between them, over the next 3 weeks.
Swan & B.Smith likely to increase $70k between them, over the next 3 weeks.

Had both Swan & B.Smith on the buy list for later weeks.
Would intend to buy Gray back when price bottoms out.

Thoughts please, finger is hooving over the trade button.

Jono

Got Goodes, newnes, griff, anderson, mummy, Gray and lamb.
Trading Anderson for Sloane and gonna hold the rest.

Next week will be bang bang week.

Josh

Don't Panic! Don't Panic!

Well I am! contemplating Minson and Goodes to McDonald and Grundy.

Pull the trigger or have a lie down Phew!

Donavan

Dont mind the trade.

Think Goodes is done, and the cheaper Ruck option needs to be considered by all.

The Roughnuts

Witts played he first game back for the pies VFL team and will likely be back for Gault in the next couple of weeks. That will surely hurt Grundy's scores and may also make him an option for the red vest during the 3rd quarters of games. Been considering Mummy to Grundy all week but I'm not going to. Other options being Blicavs, Smith & TBC I don't believe can be relied upon either. Just my opinion.

sean

does robbie tarrant have good job sercurity??

with gray out and no bench cover im thinking of pulling the trigger early by getting tarrant in this week and getting krakoeur next week as that helps my team structures.

Harry

I've gone with Tarrant as a decent short term option. I think Krakouer may not survive when Impey returns. North have Hansen to come back soon but Grima isn't back until the second half of the year. Tarrant may be in trouble then but plenty of time to make cash from now till then

Tom

Def: h.shaw, the gift, newnes, thumper, goodes, mcintosh, oxley, saad
Mid: fyfe, pendles, jelwood, CEY, griffen, heeney, NVB, cripps, vandy, newton, miller
Rucks: goldstein, nic nat, read
Fwd: swan, gray, martin, hogan, salem, clark, lonie, mcgrath

I have $555,900 in the warchest.
I was thinking of trading thumper up to a def premo and newton up to sloane. Would love your thoughts community

AMERICANMAGPIE1

With 555,9000 I would say yes!

Phil

Never thought I'd say this and excuse me if I'm going mad but should Ayce Cordy be on our watchlist now? He is 250k R/F with a break even of 120 and for the life of me I can't think of anyone else in that Bulldogs team that can play in the ruck. Roughead would leave them undersized in defence especially without Morris.

Donavan

definately not.

If you want a cheap ruck that plays, Bellchambers is it, worth the $67k more than Cordy.

northernsoul74

I'm a dogs fan and Cordy is awful. I think they are just giving him his last chance in his preferred position, he stunk it up in the forward line the last 2 weeks. Tom Campbell is better. Don't go near him.

TOPHAWK1

Just checked the weather radar for Melbourne tonight. Looks like its gonna bucket down! It will be wet tomorrow as well for the Bombers-pies clash. Who should I bench. Mc Intosh or Oxley? I am leaning to Mc intosh at the minute. Any thoughts?

AMERICANMAGPIE1

Ive got McIntosh on the loophole just for that reason! and Vandenburg and Hogan

TOPHAWK1

That is exactly what I am doing. Mc Intosh, Vandie and Hoges all emergencies on the bench tonight. As far as I am concerned, all are 3 are in play big time tonite. Got Lamb not playing on my forward line, Gray not playing in my midfield and Mc Govern a likely non starter in my backline. Got Tom Read not playing in the ruck and he will be my captain's loophole man. So we are in complete control here barring any unpleasant surprises.

VC on Swannie this week? Sloane current captain.

Cheers

BundyBear

Vandenberg on the field or off ? Can someone help me make up my mind ? Or do i need more rum

Donavan

if choosing between the likes of Heeney, Cripps & Yolmen, I would leave him on the bench.

Ideal loophole candidate if you have a non-playing mid.