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PODCAST: The Wrath of the Supercoach Gods

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Supercoach 2015

We removed Gary Ablett Jr from our teams – and many of us payed the price.

Ollie wines has stuffed his hand – JPK was not OK – Bartel. Steven Johnson. Griffen. Parker. Wallis. Dangerfield. Shiel. Jacobs. Mumford. A harrowing weekend.
And while we may be licking the off wound after round 3 – we need to turn our attention quick sticks to some real opportunities emerging on the landscape
Enjoy the show folks.

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Bill

Bartel. Need to go? Thinking straight to Gray. Already have martin/swan. Other potential trade is to Franklin

Paul

Franklin has been great lately! I would go him.

Cozza

The early word from Chris Scott is he is a "medium term" injury – looking like more than 4 weeks. We'll learn more in the week, but if he is more than 4 weeks I'd suggest you move him on – too long to have that much money sitting on the pine.

@TheNoLanguage

I've got Buddy, seems like not many others do. Highly recommend him, huge ceiling and scores 90+ in his off games

cuz

wines for who??
current midfield looks like

sloane, fyfe, beams, wines, steven, CEY, heeney, parker (NVB, vandenberg, newton)

only have 6k left

dean

I didnt grab bont last week as i couldnt fit him in nicely, which turned out to be a good thing, But now that Wines is down, im thinking of wines to bont, and then swaping bont to FWD

cuz

Was thinking along those lines… Not 100% sure he is the real deal though.

LoopyHermit

could go sideways to another port player in Ebert. He seems to be getting a fair bit of the pill and low chance of getting tagged in a game. or you could go down to a player like Rich, pocket the extra cash, and wait for him to rise in price more and then have him go to a premo.

Haz

Hey all, hope was a good weekend for all

Thoughts on a Sheed or Salem to Bont trade with the hope that he'll become a forward keeper. Is that optimistic thinking or will he average close to 100 from next week onwards (granted he plays). I know that those 2 rookies have a negative breakeven but need to be aggressive in order to balance out a shocking start to the season.

Cheers and good luck

@HJ_Mitch

Haz,
The Bont is a keeper for the foreseeable future. He is young & will recover from tissue injuries quickly.
You have to upgrade rookies to those you think will be keepers.
Remember, the only reason you buy rookies is to make cash to upgrade.
Best of luck.

mcleal10

Hey all.
What's your view on Hibberd and Newnes?

The Roughnuts

Hibberd has had a slow start but you went with him for a reason my opinion is hold, I firmly believe he will end up being in the top 8-10 defenders so I would hold.

As for Newnes I'm going to hold also but I can't see him being in my team come the end of the year.

Cezza93

Hibberd is proven in my opinion. Newnes i'm not sold. Thinking Newnes to Birchall this week.

@t_woof

Have to stick it out with Hibberd.

Newnes was good Friday night. His work rate impressed me, ran the game right out…..kept getting himself to contests. Was burnt a few times by team mates (especially Savage). I think he's an improver, i'm going to hold. St Kilda do play Carlton next weekend.

William

I've dropped Newnes as he is hurting me and I have the cash to upgrade, gone to B.Smith

Tom

Do we trade griffen?

SCaddict

I need to get Sloanedog in so in my case Griff is the best way to make that happen as it's too early to harvest any of the midfield rookie cash cows just yet.

After 3 weeks of close observation it doesn't look very likely that Griff will be anywhere near a top 12 mid this season so you'll probably have to upgrade him somewhere along the line anyway. Whether he will make any cash along the way the jury is still out but he's lost $20K already.

PDAP

Griffen is almost a straight swap for Fremantle's Neale. He had a very good NAB series and has played three strong games this AFL season. Fremantle is a top four club and he is part of a strong midfield so he will unlikely be tagged like Griffen.

The Roughnuts

Have not had a chance to listen to the podcast just yet but will listen tomorrow morning.

What are thoughts on Grant Birchall community?

Lowest avg since 2011 has been 88.9 with the others being 90+. Tag will always go to Mitchell, Hill or Smith. Is 28 and in the prime of his career. Only 3% of people have him and has great duriablitly. It was only 2013 where he hurt his knee that he hasn't played over 21 games during the year. Priced at $477k, I'm a hawks supporter and have always rated birchall but he is a great POD for defence I reckon.

I'm downgrading Mummy to Grundy and then Trading Goodes to Birchall as my backline is weak and needs strengthing so I can bank some early wins in my cash leagues.

Arguments for or against Community?

Dan

Was one of my first picked pre season until he hurt his knee. I think he will flourish once Lake, Frawley and Gibbo all playing.

Tom

Im thinking Griffen to Bont and then a few weeks down the track swing him into the fwd line for someone like Salem and get a premo midfielder?

Paul

Who should I get in for Wallis?

scrofl

Why would you trade Wallis? He's had two ripper games.

SCaddict

Because his own coach is expecting him to miss weeks. If it's more than 2-3 weeks he will probably need to go as a month or longer is too long to carry anyone really.

scrofl

Sorry lads, didn't realise he got injured, I just thought he had a down week. My apologies.

Dig Dug

well, without knowing anything further on his back injury and assuming the worst, he may be out for 3-6 weeks. I'm also deciding what to do with him if it is a bad injury.

Paul

Very annoying! would have been a great pick otherwise!

min0008

Griffen. Need to go? Current midfield looks like:
Fyfe, Pendlebury, Selwood, Parker, Griffen, CEY, Heeney, Van Berlo (Cripps, Vandenberg, Anderson)
only have 80k left?

Flanno24

I'm stuck with the Griffen dilemma as well
I just know that as soon as I trade him he'll knock out a couple of 140's

Canardly Cee

I'm debating griffin too. He's had scores of 70, 118, 77 – all over the place! I think his breakeven is around 107 for this week. You could go to Lachie Neale at Freo – I've already got him and he's doing well. But, it's another trade. I'm trying to hold off trades and keep them for later. Dunno….

BennyGan

If I was you I'd keep Griffen and get rid of Parker he's not gonn get his 170 BE whereas Griffens 110 is manageable, I'd go Parker to Watson

Redgumwon

Oarker will come good and will be a keeper for sure

Tofor

I've got Griffen and Parker.
They've been painful early, but I'd suggest holding them both…
They should improve, especially Parker coming off the concussion.

r2d2

Should have traded griff this week ,,but glad I only used 1 trade

Deesnuts

griffin, danger and parker all underperforming mid premos that I have at the moment… downgrade to a bont…upgrade to ultra premo…or hold hold hold. Opinions needed, thanks.

Jye

I'd hold danger and parker – griffen is up for debate though

scrofl

Definitely hold Danger and Parker, consider trading Griff though.

Jacob

I have Parker and i am extremely worried. Jack, Kennedy and Hannebery where all on the ball for extended periods while Parker played most of the game up forward. Reckon Hannebery and Jack have jumped up above Parker in the on ball pecking order. IM WORRIED!!

Jay

Griffin's last 5 games against Gold Coast: 132, 101, 124, 145, 118. You'd be pretty ballsy to trade out a player averaging 124 against this week's opponents!!

Ben

Should i trade bartel to swan or the bont?

Ryan K

Swan

James

Swan without a doubt. Far better option.

Canardly Cee

Swan

Lucas

Who should I trade this week out of Malceski,Goodes and Mumford…

If so who should I bring in for them

Currently have 68k in bank aswell

Cheers

Redd

Trade Malceski and Mumford to Hodge and Goldstein

scrofl

Definitely get rid of Goodes first.

Lucas

Who would I put in for him?
I already have the main 3 defensive rookies

scrofl

If you've got coin, go to Simpson, Smith, Hodge etc. Maybe consider Docherty, Hunt or McDonald if you don't have quite enough. Otherwise, you'll have to downgrade someone else in order to upgrade Goodes, as there's not really any other playing defence Rookies.

Lucas

I was thinking Mumford to Grundy then I’ll have around 460k for a defender??
Thoughts? Or should I be holding onto mummy for now?

Captain Pugwash

With Morris out, I’d wait to see if a spot doesn’t open up on the ground for Goodes.

Tofor

I've got the Mummy.
I'd say hold for now. He's still likely to go at least 80-100 most games.
I think Malceski is worth getting rid of, I don't think he's going to average much over 70-80 all year…
Malceski to Simpson/ Brodie Smith/ Hodge? Goodes to Whitecross?

Cezza93

Fair to say i've backed Newnes into a corner. Dagger in hand, young Newnes knows his fate.

yurkins

he gets plenty of the pill for sure, its his Efficiency that lets him down. hold on for a few weeks to see who youre upgrading to

cuz

newnes for malceski in a few weeks?

Jayden

I honestly wouldn’t be looking at malceski as an upgrade target until he shows something

john

do i sacrifice trading salam to krakouer so then with that money i can upgrade griffen to sloane for instance ?

yurkins

no hang on to trade in a few weeks. dont trade as yet

Jack

Hold Griffen. He’s always been inconsistent and that’s not going to change, so you may as well just back him in and wait for him to pump out big scores.

Don’t trade Salem either, he will appreciate in value.

Jezg

With bartel now out for potentially 4+ weeks would a trade down to bont be a valid option with the view of getting bartel back in after his price drop in his second week back.(200+ break even) I was thinking about the cash bont could make me next week due to his late withdrawal today while still scoring well for my overall. Must mention I have only used 1 trade so far and have 100k in the kitty. My fwds are currently bartel,gray,swan,Salem,Clarke,krackour,steele

Ethan

bont all the way, got a low BE

SideBySidebottom

If you're going to keep Bontempelli the cash he generates is irrelevant. I'd advise against trading Bartel to Bontempelli as a cash generation exercise to then trade Bontempelli to Bartel after the latter's price drop. I'll be trading Bartel who would've been a keeper to another keeper such as Franklin, Roughead, Bennell or Dahlhaus.

Dickson Balls

Do I trade Wines to Pendles regardless of his high B/E or to a Jobe Watson or Selwood type?

Cezza93

Pendles is injured careful unless you hear otherwise. Watson seems like the most valid here

Locked and Loaded

Injured? Havent read that. Played four quarters Friday night has 8 days to recover where have you heard that?

Canardly Cee

There was some doubt last week on his ankle.

Patch

I was at the game on Saturday and Watson was frolicking like he was in the Sound of Music or something. No-one went near him. Unlikely to get that freedom often. I'm liking Selwood from that lot.

Rawkus11

Selwood would be my option

PDAP

If The Bont is OK for next week, he is your man.

BigDropKick

Wines for who??

Mid now: Sloane , Fyfe , Wines , Pendles , Beams ….

Thinking of Lewis with a fairly easy run (Not many taggers) looking for the super premos Got 240k in the bank

Redd

Yeh give jordan a run i reckon

SideBySidebottom

JPK is another strong option.

Caz

Hi community, after watching the games on the weekend what are your thoughts on Tom mcdonald houli and birchell as season keepers. Liked McDonald as he scored 95 playing on tex walker in wet conditions. Thoughts?

SideBySidebottom

Birchall has always been consistent. Houli has been a touch below. McDonald is an emerging 23 yo defender who looks the goods at the moment but may not be able to hold that form. You may be rewarded for a risky pick if you take him.

Ethan

should i offload goodes as he has a BE of 98
or hold till a decent player drops down significantly in value

Cozza

I have the same problem – can see him dropping value this week which is not good for someone only worth $227k. If he scores like he has the last 2 weeks he will drop nearly $30k, so got to go for mine. Thankfully I have $300k in the chest after I trade Ablett, so looking like Goodes will be my first premo upgrade.

Ethan

i dont have that royalty of having the cash so what is the smartest thing to do?

Phil

Wait to see how much of a holiday Yarran gets for his hit on Chapman. If 4 weeks I reckon young Irish lad Byrne might be the go. Not ideal trading in after 1 game, but desperate times.

randomcliche

If you have the 3 premo rookies then perhaps Hamling and loophole. Otherwise nathan ‘warm body’ brown is a poor but valid option to avoid the $ decline. But sometimes a trade is worth more than the $ decline in one week. Which brings me to option 2. Take the hit and plan a trade for next week. If it s your biggest issue your luck. I’ve got wells and Bartel. Enjoy.

randomcliche

*it’s
*you’re
C’mon phone work with me

Locked and Loaded

Roberton or Taylor Hunt if you have don't have the coin for an elite premo otherwise just hold not worth a downgrade and wasted trade to another risky rookie

Dishlickers

No do not off load goods. Morris went down injured and goods now will get full game time

Canardly Cee

Wasn't Goodes in the vest for the last couple of games? Hopefully he'll get more game time – I wouldn't be trading yet.

Paul

Started as sub, came on in the second quarter but still only managed 28.

northernsoul74

Unlikely Goodes will get that much more game time. They started Webb ahead of Goodes, plus Easton Wood, Matt Boyd, and thre Bont to all come back in. Id also put Hamling, Clay Smith and Biggs ahead of Goodes to start. Goodes is just around the squad as insurance/plug gaps in a real time of crisis. Doggies need to get games in to the younger lads.

Daniel

I'm looking at Goodes being my first premo upgrade too.

Luckily have $100 in the bank, so hoping to go Goodes to a Hibberd type player, then downgrading Newton (who I think won't be pumping out too much more than what we've seen) to Krakouer and running with that.

Puts Ibbottson at D5 and then only have to play one of McIntosh/Oxley/Saad

@TheNoLanguage

I have Ibbo too but atm Oxley and McIntosh are looking like better scorers tbh!

@TylerCArmstrong

Parker to Sloane… my minds telling me no. But my body, my body's telling me yeeeessssss.

scrofl

Listen to your mind.

@HJ_Mitch

I'd aim to get both Sloane & Parker in your team if you can.

Danners16

Got to keep faith in Parker, if it was Griffen to Sloane, I would say yes

SideBySidebottom

Mind over matter, mate. The effects of his concussion should be out of his system by now and he should start producing the scores you were anticipating from now on.

Jacob

Anyone else concerned by the time he spent up forward. Reckon Sydney might value Hannebery and Jack on the ball more than Parker.

Tofor

Just can't drop Parker just yet. You just can't.

scrofl

Trading B. Goodes out for Smith this week. Contemplating trading out Maric for Swan (by swapping Bellchambers into the ruck), but I'm not sure… thoughts?

SideBySidebottom

I have all three of them. I wouldn't want to rely on Belch to consistently perform at R2. When I'm upgraded he'll be bench cover only. I'd keep Maric, he's a bit slow out of the blocks but gains momentum through the season as a general rule.

Nick

is it a good idea to do a side ways trade hibberd to Brodie smith?

FootyFanatic

Hold

scrofl

Nope, Hibberd will come good. Hold.

Danners16

Keep faith in Hibberd

Jezg

Sorry. Add hogan to that fwd line

The Ranger

Love ya work Jock, some calm words needed at the moment.
Having said that I'm considering some drastic moves this week as these are most definitely drastic times.
My old man always told me that where's there's muck there's brass and I'm thinking that in amongst all this carnage there must lie some gold.

Ethan

was jake kelly a one off player or will he continue to feature in the adelaide side?
if so would it be smart to offload goodes straight to him.
Question 2
What would be bellchambers highest price. He doesnt look like avereraging close 80 but above 65. would it be smart to trade him now to hogan or wait a week to offload to krakour

Juzzy

I am assuming you picked TBC as a forward and for ruck coverage (as did I).
Nothing has changed. I can't think of any reason to trade him to chase a few points or dollars.
If a rookie ruck emerges later in the season he will be gone in a heartbeat, but until then he may serve an important role in your team.

Jezg

Other than my before mentioned trade of bartel to bont any thoughts on my current side.
Shaw Higgins Kelly newnes saad Mcintosh oxley hamling/ pendles fyfe selwood Lewis Judd Heeney rich crips CEY vanders Anderson/ goldy nicnat read/ gray swan bartel hogan Salem Clarke krackour Steele
Any polishing up needed short term? Again 1 trade only used 100k in bank. Thoughts

nuggets galore

Ive traded newnes fof cale hooker and bartel for gray? thoughts on cale hooker ? Is it a good trade will he continue to pump out consistent 100s ?

Phil

Not sure nuggets usually I'd confidently say no but Hurley seems to be taken the best forward each week so maybe Hooker will continue to get a bit of ball

@RyanRhino14

Hooker had a really good start to last year as well but then he dropped off so I'd be cautious and look at other options before bringing him in

@t_woof

Agree with Ryan.

Buyer Beware on Hooker Nuggets. Check out his scores last season. Declined like his team did.

Dishlickers

If you look back too last year cale done the same thing last year went well at the start went up in price then pumped out 60s 70s I can’t see him being in the top 10 def so don’t waste your traded you will end up wasting 3 trades in the end.
1 bring him in
2 have to down grade a rookie for cash to upgrade
3 upgrade to premium

SideBySidebottom

Cale is 26 yo and his highest average over his seven year career was 79 last year after starting well.

ManOvSteele

Have Parker, do not have Sloane, should I upgrade, also what about a sneaky Salem to Jack Martin upgrade?

@t_woof

Don't need to be sneaking around whilst making trades ManO, hold Salem.

Hold Parker, he's a gun. Wouldn't have given a thought of trading him at 3/4 time v Dons Round 1. HOLD.

Tofor

Hold Parker Hold.

Matt

Have two players in the gun this week in Bartel and Gibson. Bartel looks like he'll be out for 4-6 and for mine it's too much cash sitting on the pine. Gibsons output this week isn't what I was expecting. With Frawley now out for around 8 it looks like Gibbo won't be playing that wheel and deal type role.
Thoughts Jock and community

uda

gibson has has to go.

@t_woof

Gibson is playing, got to hold him.

Concentrate on the Bartel trade.

Canardly Cee

Someone said to me with Frawley out, Gibson would not be scoring as well – seems ot be the case. Agree with @t_woof, bartel is the greater problem!

@t_woof

Hawks dominated the Doggies on the weekend too. Less ball down back. Play Port next Round, Gibson will be a lot busier down back…..could easily come out with 90+

Agree with SbS, could do a lot worse than having Gibson @ D6.

Rawkus11

Gibson was one of the top 10 defenders last year with an ave of 97 from 14 games without Frawley so can't imagine too much will change this year. He'll ave 85-95 in the weeks frawley is out then could go at 100+ for the remainder of the year. HOLD

LoopyHermit

Ripper of a podcast boys.
Like many in the community I was decimated by injury this week. My big question is especially is who should i pickup for bartel??? looking at Gray, The Bont and Buddy. Also do I need to get rid of mummy this early?? played ok in first 2 games, is it worth to hold, been hearing people saying their getting rid of him but it seems to early to me.
Thoughts?

uda

gray will drop more in price than buddy. get buddy and gray closer to the bye rounds.

@t_woof

Hold Mumford. He'll be Top 5 ruck, not point trading out.

Either Gray or Franklin good selections. Wouldn't stress if they're still dropping….as you've got to get someone in to replace Jimmy Bartel. Franklin likely to drop less.

Winter

Ok so just a few questions…..

1. Which rookie would you bench out of Saad, McIntosh, Oxley?
2. Would you choose either Swan or Pendlebury as VC?
3. If the one you chose gets a dud score who would you choose for captain out of Fyfe or Lewis?

Cheers!

uda

Mcintosh

swan (worried about pedles ankle)

Fyfe

@t_woof

EM Loophole them when you can. I started Oxley & Saad this week. Will likely do the same again. McIntosh's efficiency hurts his scores. You should be looking to EM Loophole McIntosh next Friday Winter.

Pendles.

Go with whoever has best recent record v opponent.

Jayden

Bloody horrible week was in top 200 last week but got skyrocketed out of that

I’ve got wines in my side who I could get rid of also got Parker and Newnes who I am considering getting rid off now not sure which 2 I should prioritise?

What’s peoples thoughts?

@t_woof

It was a tough weekend Jayden.

I'd be concentrating on the Wines trade. Parker is a gun, hold him mate. Think back to 3/4 time Round 1 v Dons, wouldn't have traded him for the world…stick fat with him. Newnes, he's getting better….Loved his work rate v Pies. St Kilda v Carlton next weekend, should score well.

Jayden

Just think Parker is gonna give us those 70-90 scores too much just like last year at points
Will hold Newnes for sure just needs to look after the ball then he will score well

Marco_Polo94

Parker will come good mate

Tofor

t_woof is spot on.
Hold Parker and Newnes for now.. but Wines has probably got to go.

@t_woof

Enjoyed the podcast lads!! Someone may have to visit Crouching tomorrow with a Coffee and Egg & Bacon Roll…sooth that Rum Hangover.

Tough weekend. 2310 Round 2, 2100 Round 3. Ziebell 150 Pts Round 2, 4 Pts Round 3. Brutal game at times, stay strong!!

But there were positives – Hodge 177 GUN! Held Cripps, 89. Replaced Gaz with Sloane rather than Shiel, Wines or Bontempelli.

Sticking fat with Newnes, his work rate impressed me on Friday night. Kept working until the final siren, getting to contests. Could have had another 3-4 disposals if team mates like Shane Savage didn't burn him. St Kilda v Carlton next weekend, he can score well.

If i had Parker or Griffen, i'd be holding. Same with Hibberd, hold.

Hope the news re Bartel, Wines, Ziebell etc is as good as it can be. Enjoy the week ahead all.

Marco_Polo94

This weekend proved that spending the extra $100k for a safer option in Sloane is sometimes wiser than the riskier in form players like Shiel.

Charlesy

Spot on Marco. That really worked for me

@t_woof

+1 Agree. Worked out well. Sloane looking a MUST for all teams. Cost a trade, but happy he's in now.

Locked and Loaded

Great summary! Newnes worked hard and his DE will improve. Parker and Griffen will be good POD's come end of season. Griff especially just needs time to settle he will be ok. I traded in Heppell for Gaz this week instead of Wines, JPK or Lewis. Right decision so far hope it continues

@t_woof

Heppell, not bad trade L&L.

He's become a very consistent scorer. Nice POD choice.

SideBySidebottom

Well done tw. Lots of good answers to some of the questions above that we can all learn from.

@t_woof

Thanks SbS! I try to help out where i can. Very interesting few weeks coming up.

Tyler

Heyguys, just interested in anyone's opinion in what my next move should be
Def: Higgins, Malceski, Newnes, Enright, Oxley, Saad (Mcintosh, Hamling)
Mid: Fyfe, Selwood, Judd, Swallow, Dangerfield, CEY, Heeney, Vandenberg(Miller, Krakouer, Lambert)
Rk: Goldstein, Maric (Read)
Fwd: Gray, Swan, Martin, Zorko, Salem, Clark(Hogan, Lonie)
118,600 left over
Honestly, I can't see any thing fancy to trade this week. Im facing pretty soft competition but I've been beaten narrowly both rounds, 30 points first round and 11 this week. My opponents both scored out of their skin and while I do have good players, only 1 or 2 are scoring big scores a week. So what should I do, hold the trades or is their a good option to trade for?
Cheers T

Walto69

Malceski to Lumumba
and
Judd to Sloane
Good idea or not?

YouBloodyRippa

hold imo

Dishlickers

Get rid of Malceski for b smith the rest of your team is good for now hold onto your trades

judd0

Probably hold Tyler, maybe trade Malceski, maybe. But i would hold.

SideBySidebottom

Hold.

James

birchall or hodge?
and who should i get or griffen can only be around 525k

Danners16

Hodge looks like he has wound back the clock. If you don't have too many out in the round 12 bye, Neale would be a good option.

@t_woof

Hodge for mine. Extra weeks data for his 2015 output than Birchall, plus he is DPP.

I'd stick fat with Griff.

nathan

Is it worth trading goodes to a rookie we expect to play later during the season like a goddard an co?

B/E 97 wont get near that and will continue to drop in price

Dishlickers

Look just hold at the moment I have him too. Morris went down injured, 4+ weeks and I think that goods will step into his place

judd0

Not worth it at all. The only reason i would trade Goodes this week is if you didn't have Oxley, Saad or Mckintosh.

Marco_Polo94

Thankfully my SuperCoach team wasn't exposed to the carnage of the weekend, apart from many underscoring premiums my only injury was Wallis! Dream team not so lucky….. Wines, Bartel, Wallis… And I had Mumford, Parker and griffen woo!

For my SuperCoach I'm strongly considering a mummy to Soloman Grundy move. This would give me plenty in the war chest and allow me to upgrade Wallis if I want. Speaking of Mitch, I could use either him or lambert to get in kraqouer…. What should I do community with Wallis, upgrade or downgrade? I'm absolutely stumped I've been so happy with him.

Luke

I am going Mumford to Grundy also

Luke

I have Wallis and was really liking the selection. Damn SC Gods!
I have relevant rooks so thinking up to Watson or JPK if over 3 weeks

Harrison

I have Goodes, Wallis, Bartel, Kolo, Newnes, Lambert, Griffen, all either under-performing or injured

goodes, kolo, newnes, griffen are under-performing
wallis, bartel, lambert injured

what to do hmmm. well i have 85k in the bank from last weeks Gaz trade soo…
Gonna have to stick fat with the underperfermers for one more week. Can someone please give me the B/E's of those underperformers.
with lambert im going to use him as a loophole until he gets back and makes some coins. wallis and bartel are gone (sadly) brings a tar to my eyes. WHat to do with bartel and wallis thinking bartel to franklin/bont/roughead/pav and wallis mid upgrade

Please help, thoughts very welcome

Bellybuttonfluff

Just cry .. I am in the same boat as you… I think I'll just cry the rest of the year out

Riley

BE are as follows,

Goodes = +97
Kolo = +76
Newnes = +90
Griffen = +107
Wallis = +82
Bartel = +230
Lambert = -11

Harrison

thankyou very much Riley

judd0

Injuries come before under performance.
Bartel out
Wallis out
This is a fun time for you, there are value picks out there, you must find them. Trading is the most exhilarating part of the game.
Who do you have in the forward line?

Harrison

Gray, Martin, Bartel, Swan, Salem, Hogan, Lambert and Lonie.

Bartel is gone but for who?

Sarah

Wow, that was a shocking round! Didn't even break the 2000 points barrier. Bartel really hurt. Was looking like the pick of the forwards preseason. Will probably pick him back up when he comes back and his price drops as a result of the 5 he scored on the weekend, but for now he's become Franklin. I'm with Jock and Higgo, reckon he'll go big very soon…

Haz

Have some players i'm thinking about trading, which two should i trade this week, and who should i get in for them ? The players are: Malceski, Newnes, Lycett, Maric and Griffen. Please help out

derek

wait another few weeks, you will get them cheaper plus more fallen premium options will emerge

TOPHAWK1

Hi Haz,

I traded Malceski last week before his massive price drop this week. I took a punt getting rid of him, but I watched him closely in the first two rounds and sensed something was up with him. I reckon Malceski is the guy to get rid of unless a massive form reversal. Watch him closely over next week or two.

Newnes gets plenty of the footy but his lack of disposal efficiency has cost him points. I have him and I will stick with him. (For now).

Lycett is another serious candidate for the chopping block. IMO you need to get rid of him FAST. Absolutely useless yesterday against Freo. (48pts) Have a serious look at Brody Grundy from the pies. Average of 95 pts over first three rounds and is still cheaper than Lycett. Straight switch I reckon. And still bank 26K by doing this trade.

I have Maric. He is serviceable and will stick with him. He averages a steady 86, a bit below par, but hopefully he can improve moving forward.

I have Griffen also. This guy is very unpredictable and frustrating. I am starting to wear a little thin on patience here, but will give him 2 more rounds. He is capable of big scores. If he does not improve, he will be dropped before the next price changes.

I reckon your number one priority is fixing lycett whilst Malceski is not as urgent. Dont use up too many trades too early.

Hope this helps.
Cheers

BlakeyP

Next price change? That is not the way it works mate players who have played 3 games will go up and down each week dependent on BE.

Tofor

Of those I'd say Malceski yes.. probably has to go.
I just don't think he's ever going to get the job done this season.. that there's better options for cheaper.
Rest of them I'd probably hold.. Lycett is a bit of a worry..

JustinB

Maric has averaged 86 and Minson 83.67 but scored 95 on the weekend..I want to get Goldstein in but not sure if I should hold or bring him in.

Jamie

They will possibly be the top 3 rucks for the year. I have Goldy and MInson and won't be changing. I would say hold unless your team is perfect. Goldy is still going up in value and will have to drop eventually. You will be paying top dollar for him at the moment.

JustinB

DEF: Shaw, Lumumba, Newnes, Mcintosh, Oxley Saad [Brown, Hamling]
MID: Sloane, Fyfe, Selwood, Rich, Ellis-Yolmen, Griffen, Swallow, Heeney [Vandenberg, Newton, Cripps]
RUCK: Maric, Minson [Read]
FWD: Swan, Gray, Martin, Bellchambers, Salem, Clark [Hogan,Lonie]

As you can see my team is near perfect. I have no reason to pull a trade on any of my players barring side trades due to under performers. Do you think hold onto both Maric & Minson and maybe look at doing something with Griffen or Bellchambers?

Cheers

Jamie

My question to you would be is using a trade worth the extra 10-15 points? That's something you must answer. I would say it wouldn't be for me, especially at Goldy's price. He will have to come down eventually.

I would keep the trade, as they are gold.

Dishlickers

Yer hold your rucks and hold on griff I know it’s hard I have him too but with bell down grade to Krakouer and bank the cash and move hogan onto the ground

judd0

Agree with Jamie, I have exactly the same ruck and forward line as you and won't even be considering making a trade this week.

JustinB

Thanks guys, really helpful stuff. I was thinking about downgrading Bellchambers to Krak and having the extra $, but might wait for Krak to be on the bubble and see how Bellchambers goes another week and hold onto that Ruck cover a little while longer.

Bellybuttonfluff

Sniff……*crying*….sniff.. After 2 bad weeks I thought well it can't get worse than this. Then it does….(bartel, wallis) now have worse ranking than when I first started playing 8years ago. I wanted to talk to Jock on pod but was crying too much .. I think it's over, such a short life , snuffed out in savage cruelty. Is there a group of losers like me out there? We may have to form a group to share stories and petition for charitable help …….. How can I go on?

Redd

Oh suck it up princess get ya shit together trade aggressively and stop bein a sook

judd0

It can happen to anyone Belly, even the wise, tough Crocuhingone is struggling, get your head up, do some trades, get back on top, go for the league win.
You've got this, I believe

Bellybuttonfluff

Thank community. Sniff

jake the snake

I'd hold one more week for Griffo, its only been the 3rd game for him at a new club, plus they're playing GC next weekend. I'm banking on him busting out 120+

jk1d

Bellchambers.. Has scored 82,61,70 and has appreciated in value by $15k. He has a breakeven of 58 next week which is likely to hit but won't appreciate much. Do I

A) Hold

B) Trade him out to Bontempelli who is on the bubble.

Thanks!!

Sarah

Remember the reason you selected Bellchambers… was it for ruck cover? If the answer is yes then you have to hold. Bontempelli wont be able to help you if one of your rucks misses a week or two.

jk1d

Thanks Sarah. It was for ruck cover but I feel I could sacrifice that cover option and going with someone who can score higher and consistently.

SideBySidebottom

When your team's upgraded and he's bench cover you'll feel a lot better about keeping him.

derek

good point sarah if you wanted ruck cover you still need him there, nothing has changed.

I have him at R2, and just want 6-7 solid games out of him, increase in value a little bit and be able to get a fallen premium

harbl100

I have him for ruck cover, so i'm not going to be tempted into trading for a FWD or FWD/MID premium. But if he doesn't improve and Ryder hits his stride….whoooshka!

Canardly Cee

I have him in my FWD and will keep as a swing option into RUC if needed.

judd0

Keep him for ruck cover, especially considering as you said he will appreciate for another couple of weeks hopefully.
Essendon have Collingwood and St Kila.

Rick Grimes

Mummy to Grundy. An option?

Tyso

thoughts on jobe watson? is there belief he could go 110+ this year?

carlashirley90

Even 115-120 when team actually gets to peak match fitness

Redd

Yes tyso Jobe is a inspirational captain and absolute jet leading from the front and will continue to do so get him in

SideBySidebottom

No.

Jye

why not?

SideBySidebottom

Only opinion, the last couple years will have taken a toll on the pshyche of Essendon's players. Some people excel and others struggle under immense pressure. Essendon's list has continually responded positively under extreme duress over the past couple of years, The weeks that produced the bleakest news were answered with resounding victories. Now the storm has passed the relief may overwhelm their constitutions after an initial flurry. Time will tell. Jobe is only one of them.

Dave

Shannon Hurn community. What do I do?

Dishlickers

If he’s not injured hold

mrfosak

What to do with Brett Deledio??

Dishlickers

Trade him he is going to be in and out all year and you don’t want that headache if you don’t have dusty bring him in