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It took a call in from an old mate of the community night podcast to remind me of an undeniable fact. When a Great King falls – the way is left clear for another Great man to take his place.

It’s a podcast about priority at the trade table. A podcast about reflection on greatness.. and anticipation of greatness to come. But mostly its a podcast about making sound Supercoach selections in the lead up to round 3.

 

 

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Dee

Beauty!!

brandon

NVB > Krak in a few weeks people, golden trade.

Jye

Krak hasn't cemented his spot yet, but lets hope so

BCHawks

Hi Jock I couldn't get a message in tonight but was wondering if you could help me out . I was stupid enough to trade in Leuy last week and now am not sure what to do with him these are my 2 options
A) Leuy to Bont via TBC
B) Pendles to Shiels and Leuy to Goldy

LEKD0G

Dear god hold pendles. luey to bont

BCHawks

Thanks Lek worried a bit about Pendles injury but will hold him.

mysterycannon

Some Supercoach wisdoms to keep me company on the drive to work tomorrow! Cheers Jock!

Johnny

Rejoice, here come the rookies

Goldie

Need guidance community – are people trading out Kane lambert? With him out I've got no bench cover in my forward line. Should I bring in Jayden McGrath or Jack Lonie? (Already have Salem, hogan, Clark)

Leaning towards McGrath, although having Lonie works out better in terms of bye structures.

Josh

I am looking to trade Tom Lamb to either Van Berlo (as id swtich Krak to the fwds) or Jayden Mcgrath?

CashCows

So problems just like most..any help would be fanbloodytastic

I have GAJ and S.Selwood with pendles and cripps ( hopefully these fellas will get up) and 68k warchest 30 trades

I was thinking maybe a double down of GAJ/SSelwood to Vandenburg/Hogan with a DPP swing, this would only be for cash generation but burns a couple of trades.

The next would be to keep structures to a fyfe or sloane (ablett) and rich/ NVB/Vandenburg (SSelwood)
or possibly go something like fyfe and mundy?

My mid setup is GAJ,JPK,Pendles,Lewis,Griffin,SSelwood,Cripps,CEY,Heeney, J.Nelson, T.miller?

Any thoughts would be great..

mysterycannon

Jeez, thats a tough one…

I like the idea of getting both rookies, but realistically, I don't think you can go without Fyfe's points if you only have VDB's points in comparison. I'd do Fyfe and a rookie if it was me…

jack

Trade Ablett for Fyfe and Selwood to vanderberg and pocket cash

CashCows

Yes I think this could be the option, the only other plan is bench ablett , move selwood to vburg and move lamb to hogan, then go fyfe next week as he will only go up a few grand?

CashCows

or trade miller/lamb to vburg/hogan, then trade selwood/ablett next week?

CashCows

Ok I think i will go, ablett/selwood out, swing r.gray mid trade in hogan/vburg. (i think too valuable not to have both should make 250-300k)

I then have 977k in the kitty plus netting ~150k next week (hoges and vandy), then move lamb/miller on next week, swing gray back the middle then i have miller/nelson plus money 13-20k to bring in fyfe/mundy or sloane/mundy and have rookies that can fattened properly..

what a hurdle!

shane

Dont know how sound this theory is, but being rnd 3 leaves huge opportunity for you to get both rookies this week and pocket the cash and next week or week after you bring in a selwood type or a couple of fallen forwards. Id allow for a loss of 60 points per premium, per week. So for 120 points you might save 2-300k

Jake

G'day community!
Was hoping somebody could help me out, I've got Touk Miller on my bench, but have the money to trade him out for Van Berlo. Do you think its worth it?

Cheers, Jake

mysterycannon

If you've nothing else pressing, I think it's a solid move. Van Berlo will make more money in next few games than Miller looks like he'll make all season.

Lach

Thinking of the same trade, looks pretty solid to me atm

Spifflicator

Miller is at least getting games, and I reckon he will pick up as the season goes along. All he needs is one 80+ and he's making plenty, but for those desperate to get in VanBerlo go for it!

Harry. B

Thanks Jock.
Ablett to Sloane, Danger or Treloar?

cam

Sloane

CashCows

Sloane or JPK or Fyfe (but you probably already have him)

cam

I want to bring in nvb and McCarthy, but I can only do 1 as I had to trade Ablett out. Which trade should I do

Miller/cripps out for nvb or

Lambert out for McCarthy

If the nvb trade who should I trade out cripps or miller?

randomcliche

B/w Miller, Cripps and Wells I traded out Miller. I think we've seen enough from Miller….not yet seen enough from Cripps.

Connor

Here is my thinking…

THIS WEEK – G. Ablett > D. Rich + B. Goodes > K. McIntosh

NEXT WEEK – P. Cripps > Premium Midfielder

I think that Rich can make around 150k for me and he has a fantastic BE!!

Thoughts???

cam

At first I was shocked but I saw Ur plan for next.
I like this move a lot.
But what if cripps comes out and scores 100 what would u do then?

Connor

Then I wait for his BE to level out then use the cash to upgrade

Jimi

I've done Ablett > NVB + B Goodes > Oxley – all my rookies are now set.

Next: Miller > Sloan + Geary > Smith/Docherty

Needless to say I think this is a great move and you should do similar.

harry

Wisdom needed Jock! Currently I DO NOT have Bont. The only way I can get him in as I am going Ablett to Sloane (No cash flow) is swapping Bont to Swan. I could also upgrade Mitch Wallis to Bont but I love the bastard to much!

Is it worth is or should I give him a miss?

mysterycannon

Either you've a split personality, or you're using a selection of fake names?!

Jarrod

Haha my brother posted a question above. I forgot to change the name!

cam

Give him a miss mate, he will be good but not worth restructuring to get him

Jarrod

Wisdom needed Jock! Currently I DO NOT have Bont. The only way I can get him in as I am going Ablett to Sloane (No cash flow) is swapping Bont to Swan. I could also upgrade Mitch Wallis to Bont but I love the bastard to much!

mysterycannon

Don't ship Swan. Be a shame to ship Wallis before he makes money too. If they're your only too options, I would give Bont a miss and see how he goes over next few tougher matches.

If you want him enough, would Ablett to Bont and use cash next week ruin your structures too much?

dean

I agree, i am a doggies fan, and would really would have loved to be able to get the bont into my team, but if he doesnt fit your structure, or you have to break structure just to get him in, its not worth it, look at corrective trades this week, jump on those rookies you miseed out on.

Nathan

So S.Selwood is my only trade this week and I jumped onto Bont. After listening to the Podcast, a seed of doubt has been planted in my mind. So who are some good options around 440k (MID and FWD, have Lambert to swing).

CashCows

Mids:
D.Rich $348
NVB $215
Ziebell $449 (NDS is out so could go even better)
Neale $468

FWD
Higgins $410 (FWD/DEF swing)
The Pav $459
McGovern $443 (fwd/def swing holding wce back line together)
Betts $426 ( nice POD)
Texas $438

Kieran

Thoughts on keeping Cripps instead of a sideways to NVB? Saves a trade and his JS still looks good and better if the Blues were to keep on their word of 'Rebuilding'.
Thanks community!

cam

Same problem mate, only also have miller so I might be trading him to nvb

Philip

I’m keeping him mainly because i need 1 trade for Ablett and one for Lambert , Cripps named this week and won’t lose money as it’s only his 2nd game shame to miss NVB on the bubble though.

Swans2012

I reckon cripps will go ok

Philip

Ablett to Sloane.Lambert to Honeychurch or Hogan not sure which, any help?

cam

I would go hogan, will play every week

Philip

Thanks Cam think I’ll go that way.

Michael

Need our help

Looking at Hamling to Oxley…… What do you think?

nolo

No brainer. Oxley is in the best 21.

Leighroy

Snap no brainer

The Ranger

Jock, need ya help mate, Hogan or Vandenberg as an up grade?

randomcliche

Assuming you've an Ablett esk trade to make as well, otherwise I'd say both. Both have rippin' break evens (only 10 difference in favour of Vandenberg) so your right to have questions. I'd suggest that the vest risk on Vandenberg is enough to tip it such that if its a field spot I'd say Hogan and a bench spot Vandenberg.

Flanno24

Goddard > Oxley
Cripps > NVB
or
Goodes > Oxley
Miller > NVB
Thoughts?

Leighroy

Goddard to oxley and save the second trade

curt

If have cash hold goodes on bench. Goddard onto oxley and miller to nvb and enjoy the ride on the gravy train 🙂

throttlefinger

Whatever you were drinking Jock, send me 2 cases of it!

Epic effort from the community and the FOF!

I…am…PUMPED. Bring it on, Round 3!!!!!!

NateCrows

Hahaha it's a beautiful thing!

olo

Yeah

Luke

Got some spare cash from the Gaz trade and want to premo my def line asap! So…

Goodes to Rance, Murphey or someone else? Looking for season top 5 def keeper!

Luviboy1

Cant go past Smith.

gillie44

Haven't made any trades and have all the right rookies but do have cripps and lamb and feel I am a bit light up forward; community Should I make any trades this week? This is my team:
DEFENDERS
Saad, A
Geary, J
Newnes, J
Hibberd, M
Oxley, A
Pearce, C
MIDFIELDERS
Fyfe, N
Pendlebury, S
Wines, O
Wallis, M
Griffen, R
Polec, J
Selwood, J
Heeney, I
Ellis-Yolmen, C
Vandenberg, A
Cripps, P
RUCKS
Maric, I
Minson, W
Cox, M
FORWARDS
Gray, R
Swan, D
Hogan, J
Bellchambers, T
Clark, M
Saad, A
McGrath, J
Lamb, T

Mike

By the time I scroll to the bottom of your team, I’ve forgotten who was at the top.

olo

The team isn't anything fancy,

CashCows

nope don't thinkso….hold em!

Donavan

You need to get McIntosh into your defence.

CashCows

Yes he does..great pick up, drop Clancee of the overflow

gillie44

I got him and had him from the start

gillie44

must of forgot to put him in defence and also heath shaw

mick

just give up

Marco_Polo94

Have lambert and miller. 1 trade left. Miller -> NVB, or swing lambert to the midfield and bring in McGrath? Could afford McCarthy and Dickson if I wanted but worried I'm getting sucked in by the doggies start. Cheers lads

Bruds

NVB!!!
i'm doing miller to him and won't look back
trust a proven player and ex captain over people who've played a couple of games

Canny the Manny

For those with Josh Gibson down back for the hawks or those considering bringing him in, just be wary that with Frawley's injury, Joshy Gibson will most likely give up his loose man down back role therefore his high scores. Just something to consider.

Dean Billman

I've got Gibson and I'm thinking that too mate.

Josh

Hey guys, I currently have ablett and I do not have hogan at the moment. What’s the best option at the moment? Thinking of going ablett -> NVB for cash generation and Tom lamb to hogan. Just worried about losing a premo, so my other option is to go ablett -> sloane? What are your opinions? Thanks lads

Marco_Polo94

As stated in numerous articles over the week, you selected Gary as a super premium elite keeper who will knock out captains scores. Therefore I think you should be looking to bring in someone who will knock out big tons week after week. You could follow most and go Fyfe and Sloane and JPK who are all fantastic options. Or you could be a bit riskier and hope shiels form continues or a Dangerfield or a wines type. Messing with your structures if you replace Gary with NVB in my opinion.

Spifflicator

Agreed. If you can get in one of Sloane or Fyfe this week you should.

Ryan K

Lonie or McGrath?

Bruds

Apples and oranges Ryan
I'm going for neither because they won't go up by enough to warrant a trade to bring them in and then one to upgrade him as well later on

Caz

Hi jock and community, think I will be going 2 trades this week which will be goodes down to Oxley and ablett down to either lewis or jpk. Would love your thoughts out of lewis or jpk as I already have fyfe sloane and pendles. Thnx guys.

Luviboy1

Both completely valid options, but at a toss of a coin, I'd go JPK.

@RyanRhino14

I'll be trading Ablett to Sloane because I think Sloane might average 125 from now until the byes and Lambert to Van Berlo using my Bont swing (sorry Jock for going against your advice last week) because I think Van Berlo will score and make more money than Lonie. I think everyone should always look at when the person they're trading out and trading in play, if the person you're trading in (Sloane and Van Berlo) is playing before the person you're trading out (Ablett, Lambert) I suggest you wait until the final teams come in so you know the person you're trading in isn't a late out because there might not be something worse than trading someone in before the first game starts which is when you can't reverse and then they're a late out. It happened to me last year with Mummy

Cam

Best option for leuy?

Cam

Btw I already have goldy

Luviboy1

Nic Nat.

Cozza

Would the best option be to trade Wells to a Wallis or NVB (on field) or trade Lamb to McGrath (on the bench)?

Jimi

NVB, cheap, easy draw, solid scoring, will make a ton of cash and great JS.

Jimi

NVB, cheap, easy draw, solid scoring, will make a ton of cash and great JS.

Donavan

What is a trade worth?

I am trading Ablett to Fyfe with my first trade this week.

Question is do I use the second trade to upgrade Miller to NVB? Miller is currently on the bench, and I can't see that changing, NVB would also be on the bench or a loophole score at best. So it's not about the points. I don't consider NVB a keeper, and he would be traded out around the byes (or earlier).

But NVB will probably make at least $150k more than Miller, but will take 2 trades (1 to get him in, and 1to upgrade him), that's 1 more trade than if I just traded out Miller later.

Is a trade worth more than $150k?

Help please, and I know that an extra $150k would mean getting to premium team earlier.

Spifflicator

Miller will end up making at least $120k bye round11, more if he can chuck at least one 80odd in there. So in you're If he's not on field I can't see the value, so save the trade.

Dan

Could go A.Swallow to NVB. Swallow due to bleed cash and was picked to make a quick 50-80K.

Jono

Mind went blank with all this info….. Gone Gazza > vandenberg and lambert > hogan to correct all rooks.

600k in the kitty. Not sure if this is a waste of a trade having so much money in the till instead of going a super premo but I feel it’s more important getting the rookies right which they hopefully should be now. :/

Jono

Am I nuts?

Spifflicator

Get a premo in this week. There will still be rookies to pick up next week, so you don't need every single one of the current crop this week. Get in Fyfe or Sloane.

Ollie

Need to dump Tyson and S Selwood this week.

Currently tossing up between bring in Sloane and Van Berlo, other option would be Rich and one of Jack/Dangerfield/wines/Shiel/Mundy. Leaning towards the first option at the moment.

Hazey

I looked at Sloane & NVB also, but left me with 3 Crows in the mids. Prob doesn’t matter as eventually 2 will be moved on I guess.

Jack

Any one trading like me

Ablett to van berlo
Goodes to oxley

Then use cash to upgrade miller next week to Fyfe type?

Hazey

e flicked Gaz for Swan (will move fwd next week) and upgraded Hamming to Rory Laird….

But it just doesn’t feel quite right…

T/U – keep Swanny he’ll be a top 10 fwd and Hamling is nowhere near a game
T/D – Gaz to Wines, Touk Miller to NVB?

shezza

I have traded, then reversed trades at least 10 times this week. I have traded Beams down to Van Berlo and traded Lamb to Swan and have $93k left. This leaves me with 4 premium mids but strengthens my forwards and these are my first trades. I figure, i will get Rockliff, Ablett Pendles after mid season as my rookies will hopefully appreciated over $300-$350k. Thoughts???

shezza

My prem mids are: Fyfe JPK Parker Griffen
My prem fwds are: Gray Martin Bartel Swan – aim to get Franklin in soon which leaves one spot for best performing fwd around mid season break.

Swans2012

I’ve got the same sort of problem… Worried about weakening my midfield too much by bringing in van berlo (who would be m6 with rookies filling out the last 2 spots). Personally I’d hold beams, will be top 10 mid….

shezza

The only thing is my fwd emg are lamd and krak/lambert and only have 3 prem fwds. Van berlo will only get 70-80 but i plan to trade him in a few weeks for a selwood who will drop in value

Liamlane

Who should I trade Ablett for Fyfe or the bom

Spifflicator

Fyfe or Sloane either would be excellent.

Adsy

Rookie corrections:
B: McIntosh Saad Goodes N.Brown
M: CEY Heeney Miller Cripps Lambert
R: M.Cox
F: Salem Clark Hogan Lamb
I have 2 trades, don't really have any issues in prems due to bypassing GAJ at start of season so just wanting to get the right cash rookies in so I can upgrade my mid pricers ASAP. Any must haves on the bubble? Any must trade outs? Can I hold Lambert and Lamb if they aren't playing or are they first out? Hold Cripps for one more week or flick? NVB or VBerg in, or both? Help much appreciated!!

T.J

I would say you need Vandenberg in and probably NVB

Favalinko u Beauty

Lambert out Vanderberg in

mrfosak

Vandenberg for Lambert, Oxley into def for either Goodes or Brown.

Swans2012

Wells to van berlo, luenberger to Franklin next week or

Wells to bont, luenberger to b smith next week

Feel as though Franklin might explode but option 2 gives defence keeper and possible forward keeper…..I just don’t know, leaning to no. 2 thoughts???

Luviboy1

If you're willing to take a risk with Bont, go for number 2.

Patrick

Guys bontempelli will kill them, he is much better then macrae who averaged 100 in his second season, plus you can pick him fwd

Kev

Just not sold on him yet. Proven he can beat up weaker teams. He should get more attention over the next 3 weeks against the Hawks, Crows, Sydney (a). Will judge him then

I N Pieman

Completely agree Kev. If he tears the Hawks swans & crows apart I’ll take my hat off to him. They are 3 teams that if they see a big threat will move heaven & earth to stop him. And they plenty of options to do so. Will be interesting. I smell a trap.

Kevin

Hey community! I am more focused on playing for league win than overall rank. I know everyone has being saying and in articles over the week, you selected Ablett as a super premium elite keeper. Therefore we should be looking to bring in someone who will knock out big tons week after week ex Sloane or JPK. I have a different idea. What do you think of these trades:

Ablett to Van Berlo
Tom Lamb to Jaden McGrath

Then next week, if one of Miller, Cripps or Newton spuds it up this week and their break even is high. I’ll trade one of them to a Sloane or JPK. As Sloan or JPK prices won’t increase as much next week then the cheaper bubble boys would be. This grants me more cash generation for the long run for the league win. Thoughts community

cam

What is a higher priority, trading luey or getting my forward rookie bench right. i have lambert and lamb and looking to bring in lonie or mcgrath

Josh

Get the fwd bench in order and have someone ready to step up. Probably Lamb to Lonie, but I'm also looking at McGrath right now – not certain that Krak will have the rolled gold job security in a few weeks as everyone hopes.

Rocky

Hey everyone

Thoughts on gaz to either lewis or shiel ??

Let me know what yous think ! Thanks !

Kev

Lewis

Rick Grimes

Lewis is the proven premium. Shiel has killed it against weakfish opposition. He shouldn't get the tag and GWS are pretty competitive, so there is every chance he'll maintain a high average. I'm really tempted but am going to hold for another week, if Beams stinks it up it may be a straight swap.

Mike

Laird, Savage or Shenton?

Hazey

I’m looking at Laird

Swans2012

Savage, huge meters gained numbers means he’s the man at the saints imo

T.J

I have Ablett, Brett Goodes, Cripps and Miller I'm looking to get rid of.

This trade is definitely happening. Ablett to JPK. The Rest I'm unsure of.

Brett Goodes to Hamling or Goddard? Already have Oxley, Saad, McIntosh

Cripps to NVB. Reason? Cripps got dropped and hasn't proven himself. NVB has been a proven performer, in a winning team, and should make cash quickly. This will still leave me with over 100k to hopefully upgrade KK next week.

Miller to NVB. This trade will not leave me with much cash left.

Kev

Keep Goodes, low b/e an is a warm body. Oxley/Mac/Saad are the only options down back.

Cripps wasn't dropped, had a back niggle last week. Was only 3 weeks ago that he racked up 32 touches against the Cats in nab 3. Keep faith. NVB isn't killing it, a wasted trade when you're just gonna trade NVB again down the track.