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Flesh for Fantasy – Round Three

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flesh-for-fantasy-150x150G’day community,

After the breaking news this afternoon surrounding Gary Ablett Jr, I had to scrap the previous Flesh and start again. When the greatest SuperCoach player of all time goes down with injury, we must address it and in depth.

 

Many avoided Ablett this year due to that dodgy shoulder, but many also stayed loyal to the king and have been burnt. Given his price, there is room to move and can go to any midfielder in the competition. Who you go to will have significant bearing on your season.

So this special GAJ edition of Flesh for Fantasy will look at what to do with Gary and who to trade him to.

So, lets get cracking.

Gone Gary Gone

There is just no way you can keep Gary Ablett if you have him. The beast in bald will miss this weekend against the Cats and there has been no definite timeframe given for his return. Even if he were to return in a couple of weeks, that shoulder is absolutely cooked. He has laid just one tackle all season and bottles it every time contact is imminent. Will take time for him to get back to his best and it looks like he will spend time up forward this season. Let’s also remember how significant that price drop is going to be. He is set to drop a lot in value so no point keeping someone who will leak cash. Time to wave goodbye, but not forever.

Who is worthy of replacing the ‘Beast in Bald’?

When trading Gary Ablett out, you can only replace someone like Gary with a blue chip premium. Our teams were built around Gary given his value and while it may be a good moneymaker to trade him down to a performing low range premium, you need someone who will give you 110-120+ every week. Here is a list of players you should seriously look at getting in:

  • Nathan Fyfe (FRE) MID $657,600 – 115, 167
  • Jordan Lewis (HAW) MID $588,200 – 111, 154
  • Josh P Kennedy (SYD) MID $612,200 – 127, 130
  • Rory Sloane (ADEL) MID $616,900 – 145, 134
  • Scott Pendlebury (COLL) MID $668,800 – 113, 126

To repeat what I said, ideally you will trade in one of the five guys mentioned above and bank the 100+ sores every week. However, if you are looking for a risky option and a chance to make significant cash, look no further than:

  • Dion Prestia (GCS) MID $569,800 – 107, 122
  • Daniel Rich (BRIS) MID $348,300 – 126, 100
  • Adam Treloar (GWS) MID $577,800 – 157, 107

Take it to the bank

Whoever you trade for Gaz is going to accumulate some coin for the kitty given his price relative to everyone else. When trading, use this as an opportunity to build up the cash, which will be so desperately needed when it comes time to upgrade our rookie-priced players. This is why getting guys like Jordan Lewis or Josh P Kennedy could be value because not only do they scored 110+ most weeks, but could give you upward of $150,000 for the kitty. Extra cash will be so valuable come the dreaded bye rounds.

It’s going to be tough to say goodbye to Gaz, but it is for the best and who knows – if he is to return to his dominate best, could be a nice little upgrade down the track. Good luck this week community and if you have any SuperCoach related questions, do not be afraid to ask in the comments section below.

Mr Crimmins


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Ideas Man

Is Danger worth considering? $570K, use the extra cash to boost another line

Higgs Boson

Soft draw and Sloane should get more attention then last year.

Very solid option but not for me personally (I have Sloane, NVB and CEY in the mids)

Josh

I’ve gone danger easy as draw and think he can catch fire as Sloane will get tagged

Dools

G' day Josh
Danger spending time up front where he is good but Slone is not concerned by tag. Slone over Danger mate

Haz

sloane = consistency
danger = upside

Trab Pukcip

When has Sloane ever been tagged??? Never happens

Holty

The thing you need to look at is he going to finish the season as a top 10 midfieler? If you think not, it is a wasted trade as you will need to trade him later down the track.

L.Gibbs

Which rookie should I get rid of, Patrick Cripps or Nakia Cockatoo? And should I downgrade B. Goodes to

Oxley?

Higgs Boson

Cockatoo – doesnt play a fantasy relevant game
Goodes to Oxley – bloody lock

cam

Agree with you here cockatoo is not a supercoach player, (he may be in the future but not this year) as he is always a sub risk

Dools

G'day Gibbo,
Hold that trade mate, for as long as Possible, Ox had 1 great SC game, Goodes was sub for 10 SC points Wait Goodes is relevant to the Doggies, Luke Beverage even said it …Goodes is part of the leadership group…..
I have both so I'm holding. …. I hope you do the same.

Derek

Are you serious about Goodes part of leadership group?

Dools

Most defiantly mate ..He is worth keeping

Jayden

But dools Oxley may have had only one good game but it will affect his next 2 price rises and has the potential to keep scoring in that young pies line up ( no Sidebottom)

Haz

with only 3 relevant rookies that are defenders, Oxley is almost must have.

Ethan

i love cockatoo too much to trade him out

nick

cripps who is looking at 2 to 3 weeks maybe its a back injury and they can be on going think nakia might explode this week

Brad

Was thinking of getting Bont this week for Gaz? Bank 340.000 then shift him into the forward line next week and bring Lewis or Kennedy in.

cam

Who would you be getting rid of for lewis or Kennedy?

Brad

Thinking I will bring in Lewis. Maybe get Kennedy after the bye. Only want to get bont in this week because he will jump about $50,000 next week.

cam

That’s fair enough but next week who are you trading out for lewis?

Luke

forget the 50k and just trade in players you think will be in the top 6-8 for their line come seasons end. tricky trades only bring pain

JC@A

Ive gone a similar move with trading Gaz for Vandenberg this week. (i have CEY, NVB and Rich)

Next week ill trade Shiel up Sloan or Lewis. Coat 1 extra trade but locks in the best low $ mids.

Stickman

You could just trade Gaz to Sloane or Lewis this week and therefore you save a trade and dont lose a keeper.

Dean

@[email protected] You have to be kidding right, trading GAJ to Vandenberg, to then trade someone like Shiel to Sloan or Lewis?

If your serious thats the silliest thing I have read this year. Why wast 2 trades to bring in the same player, if your thinking due to cash generation then think again because effectively each trade is worth $150,000 to $200,000

If you have Cripps or any other crap rookie just trade him to Vendenberg, then trade GAJ straight to Sloane or Lewis.

Lastly the LAST person I'll be trading out would be Shiel he is the highest scoring midfielder thus far for only $500k he will be worth $600k plus in no time and I wouldn't be getting rid of him until i see him have at least a few sub 70 games.

Sorry to sound harsh but you sound like u have a decent side and your going to stuff it up due to trading for the wrong reasons.

Good luck regardless mate…

Ben

Thinking of trading out brett goodes. Noticed both Rory Laird and Shenton scoring well at 300k. is this just good form or are their scores sustainable?

Ethan

seems like more good form than anything. We've seen in the past shenton scoring decent, then can have an absolute shit one.
back goodes for now, if he's listed as the sub next week i guess you can trade him out

Youngster

A sideways trade if I've ever seen one. You either downgrade to a rookie like Oxley, upgrade to a premo or better yet, Hold. No point "chase da car" as crouching one would say.

Crowls

Mate spot on, trading one mid pricer for another not worth it. I have wells and want to trade him but to who. I have all the scoring rookies and some that I must wait on. cant afford to go up to a keeper. So he stays.

There are only two things to do, generate cash – this is who you trade in. Get keepers as soon as possible. If trades are not doing that dont do it.

Possibly look at leagues but again trades should be linked to above. learned my lesson last year. Traded to much to quick. did ok. Won a couple of leagues and finished 7733 but could have easily cracked top 3000 with more patience.

Higgs Boson

Thought on Brett Goodes to Josh Bruce

Goodes is a definite out for me – dont want a sub risk

Josh Bruce in would be purely a short term option for cash. Great 2 round average and a low BE combined with a soft draw coming up of COLL, CARL he could easily be pushing 400k considering the form he is in at the moment.

Gordo

I'm thinking the exact same or hunt

Rick Grimes

Dyson Heppell?

Haz

Drug Cheat!

Ian

Haz…..three clubs with proven cheats and not he Bombers…..can you guarantee your club is clean ? Of course you can't,

Harry

Haz save your bullshit abuse for Herald Sun columns. We talk Supercoach here

Jason WindowLicker

You’re a bloody low life Haz. Uneducated prick!

Haz

Sorry boys, didn't realise you only inject legal and non-performance enhancing substances into you… my apologises, won't make the same mistake again…

Jason WindowLicker

You are a peasant and an oxygen thief Haz. Hope you burn in hell with Caro

Haz

Wow, what an insult, may have to jump off the westgate , don't know how i'm going to live anymore. Apparently i'll meet up with you in hell, i even may be generous enough and throw a surprise party when you get down there.

Patch

Heppell a good choice, but not as good as Fyfe, Sloane, JPK and co. Unlikely to go big this year, and hasn't shown a massive ceiling. Next year.

Dools

Nice

Locked and Loaded

Disagree on Heppell but then again who am I

Crowls

Like Heppell and will continue to improve. Dont see him going backwards but not sure he can be top 10 mid so not in my list. If he spuds it between now and byes and drops to 450 or so, then definite consideration.

Haz

Just to clarify, he's a gun and a massive POD. Lock him in for a consistent 105-120 every week. Put him in my team when they were cleared by the AFL. Just need to hope theres no appeals from WADA

cam

Hi community, I was wondering who everyone believes the must have rookies are in each line. I currently have Saad obey brown and McIntosh In defence. Vanderberg miller newton heeny ellie-yolemen crisps in my midfield and hogan Clark Salem lamb and Lambert in my forward line. I want this week to be about correction of rookies so who do you think I should correct?

Thanks

Higgs Boson

Must haves for me:
DEF: Macintosh, Oxley, Saad
MID: Heeney, Yoeman, Newton, Vandenberg (Rich and NVB also decent cows in RDT anyway)
FOR: Clark, Hogan, Salem,

Haz

Backline: Saad / Mcintosh / Oxley
Mids: Ellis-Yolmen / Heeney / V'berg / Sinclair / NVB / Sheed
Rucks: No one
Fwd: Hogan / Salem / Lonie / McCarthy / Clark / McGrath
In order from must have – not so much

seaford scouse

Lambert out for 3 months mate, look to correct.

Charlesy

I’m considering that too Brad. I have a gut feel that Bont will be ok versus the second year blues and I already have 4 keeper premiums in my forward line. Bont could be a handy F5. However the safer bet at this stage is jpk or Sloane as a direct swap for Gaz. Any thoughts community?

cam

I think so to Charlesy, I am just not 100% sold on him. I am going gaz to Sloane as I love the way he plays and I already have fyfe pendlebury and beams

Charlesy

Thanks Cam, I’ve got Sloane in there for Gaz and it looks great! We have the same mids except I have Lewis instead of Beams. But you can’t lose with either of those guys. The Bont move would be gutsy though! Lol

Gold Rush

Reckon Bont is going to get torn a new one this week, time will tell – pass this test and I will start to take notice.

Crowls

Bont is the real deal guys. Might get torn a new one but will still score 100. I would have Bont over Dusty any day of the week. Dusty can play but geez he picks the wrong weeks for me when he spuds it up.

Northerner

I dont expect him to hold that average, but is excellent value at that price which is why I picked him initially. Just go onto season stats and guess who is leading the tackle count? – 3 more than next best. We are looking at an emerging superstar no doubt, agree some residual risk to the extent he cops the tag. Btw, he did cop the Sellwood tag in rd 1 and I suspect if Sellwood had been fully match fit his 126 would have been under 100, but at that price happy with that output. What was it that Dusty got in rd 1 when he copped the tag?!! All are susceptible.

adam

gaz to bonts, move him to forward
cripps to van berlo.
have 356k in the bank, next week going kolodashnij to smith, thoughts?
could put gaz on bench and see how bonts goes against the hawks?
cheers

cam

If your going bont I feel you need to get him this week as he is predicted to go up by 67k with a -19 breakeven.

adam

but should i go to sloane, coz gaz to bonts might be a bit risky

TheAnointedOne

That's the trades I'm going with Adam. Crips to VB is a winner

adam

yeah thanks

Crowls

Love this move and would do it if I didnt start with Bonts. Also want to go KK to Smith next week. Not sure where the money will come from yet. I went GAJ to JPK. (Bloody told everybody i know not to start GAJ and then listened to all the talk about costs if he doesnt spud it. Blah blah. Too bloody late now, my cat is licking up the split milk cause I am not crying over it.

Jacko

What two trade shall i do

1.out goodes. in. oxley
out. miller. in. van berlo
2. out. ablett. in. premium mid
out. goodes or miller for oxley or van berlo

gary doesnt drop this week so do i get rookies in who will make money or trade gary now

Tom

I think Goodes to Oxley is a must as Oxley looked excellent on the weekend. If Goodes gets the vest on the weekend or even if he plays the whole game will struggle to get the 67 breakeven whilst Oxley's is -74. They are looking like similar JS and both rookie output so the extra 140k should be spent elsewhere

lm11

Goodes to Oxley will be a better trade for next week.

Patch

From those two, Gary out; Premium in. Goodes out, Oxley in.

seaford scouse

would correct the rookies this week mate and do gaz next to a premium, could even save you more cash and the points difference this week over the season is negligible

Tom

Am going GAJ to Sloane/JPK and Goodes to Oxley this week, thus leaving me with 270k in the kitty. Pretty sure of those trades being the most urgent but wondering what (especially if Cripps burns us again this week) I should do in preparation for trading with the cash next week. Worried about going a mid pricer like Rich or even Bont in the guts after 1 price rise. Or should I go a cheaper GAJ trade e.g. Lewis allowing me to upgrade Cripps to Swallow?

Thanks for any help.

cam

I may have a solution, trade gaz to van berlo or any other rookie priced player. Then next week if cripps has another stinker upgrade him to a Sloan/jpk. That way u don’t miss out on a rookie who will increase in price this week.

Tom

Ouch, 540k on the bench not sure I want to cop that. Nice idea though and may be the only way to save the loss, will have to weigh up.

cam

I suppose it’s a lot of coin to not use but its only for one week

Youngster

Not to mention the loss of much needed premium point scoring…. Good idea, could pay off but it is a big gamble…

Sean

Luckily I avoided Gaz in my starting team so don’t have to worry about who to trade to.

I do have B.Goodes though. I’m thinking of trading him to N.Brown. Already have Saad, McIntosh and Oxley. Can’t upgrade.

What does the community think?

Haz

Brown's useless, better off going all the way down to one of the cheapest guys, or someone like Goddard and pocket the cash or upgrade to a keeper. Brown should only make approximately 50k at best.

Youngster

Yep, Brown is a sideways trade. Hold Goodes until you can upgrade to a season keeper as you already have the 3 must have rookies. Put Goodes on the bench until you have the cash to upgrade. With a bit of luck, he'll have appreciated in value by then.

Ben

I'm in the same situation. I wouldn't go to brown but I have noticed that Rory laird and Cameron Shenton are averaging 100. Tempted to take a punt but I'm worried about getting burnt.

Swans2012

Pair of burnmen for mine!

@SeanySamp

Cheers fellas. Was thinking of using the Brown trade as a cash grab and a heart beat on the bench for the year, and using the other 3 rookies as my cash cows.

Pez

Thoughts on Mundy? In .6% of teams, IMO will average over 110, thoughts..?

Derrick

i too like the idea of Mundy, is a proven 100+ players in last couple of years. The question I ask myself is he going to average at least 115 for the season which can make him a keeper. Depends on structure of your mids, if you have both Fyfe & Pendles.. I don’t consider it too much a risk. If you don’t have one of these players I would lock them in before Mundy. So many good mids this season with JPK, Fyfe, Pendles, Wines, Lewis, Beams, Sloane, Selwood ( when his price drops) the potential in Prestia, Shiels & Treloar and eventually Rockliff or Ablett later down the track.

@Seekersupacoach

I am also considering Mundy. He is a great POD and is priced similarly to Wines and is in a terrific team. If all else fails you can then use him again to trade GAJ back in later.

Mac

Still can't decide between Lewis Sloane and JPK.
Current mids are Gaz( who is getting traded) Selwood, Beams, Parker, Fyfe.

Winter

Get Pendlebury if you don't have him

Tom

Pendles is under an injury cloud

cam

He will be alright, how many times do we see him getting scans on a Monday! A bloody lot, it’s always precautionary.

Derrick

I really like JPK & Sloane. But Sloane will appreciate more whereas JPK won’t. If you look at your byes too you can decide who works better depending on your current set-up.

Luke

I'd go lewis or JPK with JPK my fav.

Youngster

All things being equal, perhaps it's time to consider which of these premiums will work best come the byes…

Ryan

Should I trade out Hibberd or Boak?

Haz

No

Phil

Hibberd has played last years grand finalists.
Boak has played Sydney and Freo away
Both will improve

SideBySidebottom

Neither.

Tofor

Just Don't.

Brad

Do u guys think its priority to get rid of goodes and crips? Doing this would mean holding GAJ till next wk as his price won't drop. Is this too much money to have on the bench for 1 wk?
Other option is out GAJ, and either crips or Goodes

Pez

Keep cripps, get rid of GAJ. Far too much money on the pine and cripps will get his chance

Haz

Cripps isn't a must drop right now, but be careful. He could realistically float in and out of the team and could potentially see a few vests. Goodes scoring a 10 really hurts cash generation for the next couple of weeks. If you can upgrade him, great as theres no downgrade options if you have oxley/saad/mcintosh.

Tom

I Cripps will not drop in price so depending on if you are going down to a must have mid rookie and simply upgrading Goodes then maybe Cripps first but in any other situation I would go Goodes as he will probably drop a bit this week.

Brad

Was thinking GAJ to Sloan, then crips to rich. That would mean keeping Goodes as I have Macintosh Saad and Oxley as my other def rookies.

Derrick

I feel like Carlton need to throw Cripps at it. They call this kid the extractor & is to be the heir to Judd, they really need to develop him sooner rather than later. He plays well enough, probably hand balls too much for my liking.

4rm

I'm downgrading Goodes to NVB. I started Saad in the mids.

Tom

Thoughts on Ablett and Cripps out and Lewis/Wines and Rich in?

Derrick

If that is your only trades then it is a yes in my book. Two solid premiums & a good mid pricer who won’t be a keeper but is a great stepping stone.

john

Gary out/ van berlo in
goodes out/ saad in

then use cash to upgrade miller next week to premuim ?

Bilbo

That's my plan john

Macca

I made same call on gaz to nvb but went goodes to oxley. got way too much coin in pocket but only for 1 week.
target options have 1 more game to prove consistency….. Brown, Miller, Cripps, Luenberger on notice and Lambert a trade necessity next week.

Northerner

Good trade combo for the long term. You can upgrade 2 mid pricers next week to premos. I don’t buy comments that it’s too much coin on the park as it’s one week and you’ll be close to full premium than not picking up these rookies and their cash generation. All for the cost of the difference in score between NVB v a premium for one week.

Charlesy

Shiel for Gaz and bonts for Cripps. Can someone give me a good reason not to do this? I feel like I’m missing something. Thanks in advance community

Gary Ablett

Although you are creating two good cash generations, I feel you could be chasing points going in with both. could go a lot worse though.

Charlesy

Thanks Gary. Good food for thought there mate

cam

The question us can u trust shiel to perform each week? Look at last year he had 10 scores under 100 including some extremely poor scores of 41,62,69. Is that what you expect of someone worth that much.

Charlesy

Thanks heaps Cam. Those stats you’ve given me are gold. Maybe Shiel is having a break out year but perhaps I should stick with Sloane for Gaz

rbailey

bont and shiels could be a trap. scoring well now but neither have played top teams yet. They should average around the 100 but may not finish in the top 10 fwds (bont), definitely not top 10 mids. i was considering the same trade but jack instead of shiel, better off trading gaz for a sloane or kennedy who are definate top 10 mids ,barring injury. just my opinion though, go with your guts!

Tman

Shiel is a gun and will go alright…but most likely be a keeper. He tagged the oppositions best mids last year and learnt from the exp.

They are letting him loose this year. But next few rounds should be telling.

Tman

Wont be a keeper i meant.

sparticus

hi community
thoughts on Goodes to laird

Ben

Thinking the same thing. Also considering Shenton

Youngster

From one stepping stone to another. If it works, you're a genius, if get burnt you'll know why sideways trading and chasing last week's points is not a winning strategy.

Tom

Thoughts on what is an allowable amount of cash in the kitty for one week (to determine whether I go Gaz to mid pricer first or Cripps to ultra premo)?

cam

Depends if your going for the money or just for league wins

Anonymous

Now Ablett is OUT, will Miller keep his spot thoughts …

Billy

Would have to help JS if anything

@Seekersupacoach

Hallahan and Harbrow also out this week at least too. Miller ordinary but is probably in for at least one more week

JB

Significant May find form

Digga

What would be a better move community, Cripps to NVB or Hamling/Goddard to oxley?

Lach

Def get Oxley

Luke

Not by trading Hamling though, just keep him on your bench. Got Goodes? He's a good trade to Oxley. I'd hold Goddard another week.

Anthony

Going to trade Ablett to Sloane (it's a sad day). I went against my better judgement and picked Ablett last minute but I just couldn't leave him out despite his injury and lack of preseason. Anyways I was just wondering who you guys think is a better trade for Cripps – Bontempelli or Rich. Rich is more likely to be a stable earner/point scorer whereas Bontempelli is more fun to watch/follow and likely to go big or small if he gets tagged. Do you guys think Bont is worth the risk for the potential big scores and potentially being last years Gray/Parker/Swallow?

Derrick

You will see that dogs have a tough next few games, chances are that Bont might beat the tag but remember his only 19. Whereas the Parker, Gray and Swallow all a bit more years in their system. His is definitely a future star. Great tackling machine too! I think Rich will give you that consistency where the Bont will drop to that 80s sometimes.

Glorin

I think it will be reverse. Rich will drop lower scores in more often than the Bond. The Bont won't always go as big as he has so far, but will still score well due to high tackles count etc. Does more without the ball to get points And you can enjoy watching the guy even more knowing you are getting points too!

@gcuthber

The Bont got tagged by Selwood in round 1 and broke him. I predict high scores early with a late season fade due to his age. If you get him you shouldn't be looking at him as a keeper.

Crowls

This is probably closer to the truth. Love the kid and what fun to watch. Dont think early tags are an issue but late season fade out may be. If so will be a downgrade option or upgrade. My original thought was to hold him to the end of the year but will assess as the season progresses. gcuthber not sure whether to thank you or not for pointing out the flaw in my POD preseason selection that is no longer POD.

Winter

Wanting to trade out Gary to Sloane but that would leave me with 3 Adelaide players just in the guts (Van Berlo + Ellis-Yolmen, would that be ok or just play it safe and downgrade Gary to Lewis? My other mids consist of Pendles, Fyfe, Griffin, Rich, Heeney, Vandenberg, Anderson, Krakouer….

My other trade is Joel Hamling to Oxley which I see is a must!

cam

Nah it’s fine mate as nvb and ellie-yolemen will be traded out of your team around the byes. Meaning you will only have 1 Adelaide player left. Btw they have a soft draw until the byes so in a way it’s a good thing.

CJay

I have a similar dilemma Winter.
Already have Sloan and CEY but wanting to get in NVB for the injured Lambert. fwd/mid
Good point cam makes but what do others think?

Gaz to JPK for me.

Phil

Having 3 Adelaide midfielders is a good thing because they have a good draw to the byes and Sloane is your only one that will be there after the byes.

Hamling to Oxley solid trade as well. 2 of the better trades I've read so far buddy

Blake

for a risky move but a cash generating possible good one thoughts?
beams out – rich in
goodes out – b.smith in??

cam

Why would u get rid of beams. Did u learn nothing after last week where martin Jacobs griffen etc played a poor game then backed it up. Hold your premiums.

Blake

always have but with a break even of -21 rich if he pulls a 90+ will make cash quick and will be easy to upgrade to someone like gaz if he comes back firing and while also giving me a solid premo down back hmm unsure haha

Youngster

You're plans to burn trades are breathtaking. Hold Beams. If don't have all your rookies, grab them now. If you have some failing stepping stones, consider your options there first. If you don't have either of those problems, then you have reason to trade.

r2d2

What about gaz? Keep him too …that what you saying

Derrick

Don’t trade Beams. A trade holds more value than cash in the long run. Especially trading out a premium, if not injured never do.

Nathan

ablett to Kieran jack
Only in 1.2% of teams great POD
Priced @ $555K
Kennedy and Hannebery will get the attention first I feel
Thoughts??

Simon

If jack does get tagged he can struggle to break it

Rbailey

i like

Charlesy

Sounds good mate. Your logic works there

bob

Great choice if I had ablett would definitely get jack in if I had Fyfe, watch Sydney a lot and feel he can play a tag well when he's fit, and I think he's fit!

r2d2

This sounds crazy and not sure what griff BE is , but gaz down to jpk and griff up to Lewis this week ???? Or gaz to jpk or Lewis and tbc upto bonts …??? Thoughts

r2d2

Bare in mind price rise in each option , some thoughts please community

cam

I prefer the second option

Dools

G'day my little robotfriend

Griff B/E 125 .. If you have him Keep .. Gaz to JPK or Slone depending on Your Preference mate

r2d2

What you think of 2nd option dools? And g’day to you too good sir

Dools

Hi Mate
Bonts has 3 strong games, Hawks , Sydney and the Crows, Your call ……

Anthony

I am contemplating getting in the Bont myself but is it worth getting rid of Bellchambers for Bontempelli? Not sure what your ruck combo is (mine is GoldNui) so it would really depend on what you are sacrificing. Bellchambers will be the lone ruck during the Round 13 bye and is a safety net.

Griff to Lewis gives you more piece of mind but again this sideways trade may cost you unless you are confident Griff will seriously struggle and Lewis will continue his upward trend. Griff's BE is 122 and likely to drop $8-12K. Griff has not being playing badly just the players around him are pulling their weight.

Gaz to Lewis/JPK is a YES not sure about the other 2 trade ideas though

Derrick

Ablett to Lewis or JPK yes but don’t trade Griff out or TBC. Those 30 trades look like a lot but you can already see what has happen in the first couple of weeks with players going out because of injury. TBC I suspect is in your forward line for insurance for your rucks. Stick to your initial strategy.

r2d2

He is in my fwd line yes …. Nic nat and mAric rucks

Ian

I'm thinking the Bont and pic up $300k, plus another $150 when he rises over the next few weeks. Thoughts ?

Dave

Will breakevens be posted this year guys?

Dools

Dave go to footywire http://www.footywire.

Dools

Sorry Dave,
footywire.com

Dave

Thanks Dools!

David

To serious

Simon

Thoughts on the below trades
Ablett to jpk and
B.goodes to docherty
Or is there someone else than docherty with about 420,000 to spend

Simon

Sorry 453,000 to spend

cam

Who are your rookies down back mate?

Simon

I have mcintosh, saad, Oxley I was looking for a trade and keep type of player

cam

Although it’s against jocks wishes Higgins is playing well.

Simon

Already have Higgins, lumumba, gibson

Derrick

If you have to trade, Laird & Rance look good. Rance in at 470k though. Not sure if
Docherty is the real deal… Wayno would argue yes.

bob

rampe and kieren jack are two great options

Donkey on the Edge

didnt have GAJ but considering the following….

A.Swallow to Sloane and Cripps to Van Berlo.

Swallow could be a 100 point player but he isnt in the same league as Sloane , and Van Berlo's output is nearer Swallows at nearly 300k cheaper. Looking at BE im going to suffer on Swallow if i keep him in where as both Sloane and NVB will be way over their BE's

Thoughts coaches please

cam

I haven’t really looked to closely to swallow and I’m unaware of his capabilities but I think both of those trades are for the better.

Billy

HOLD swallow

Rbailey

Need some advice, i have Gaz, lambert, lamb, cripps and goodes. Who do i trade? thinking gaz and either lamb or lambert are the most essential. At least lambert is DP so some use until another rookie starts playing. i Was originally thinking gaz and cripps for jack and bont but then i have lamb and lambert still. Help!

Rbailey

and is it an issue trading in sloane when i already have dangerfield?

Jules

Dont think it’s a drama to keep the 2 Lambs, a lot will prob hold them. The west coast one might play again and at least with lambert hes a swing man/ strategic donut for emergency loophole.
Sloane’s a gun very consistent shouldn’t matter if u have Paddy already.

Girdle

Goodes just isn't going to make cash like I had hoped. Could play it safe, downgrade to Brown as D8 and pocket the $100k. Or upgrade to Bruce for $50k…..just hear me out……BE of -56, will be over $400k in two weeks. Playing against Coll and Carl, then small upgrade to fallen premium like Hibberd or Malceski. Too crazy?

Dolls

too crazy. Brown will get 30 – 50 each week and will not improve in price (much, or quickly enough). Don't think Bruce will kick 6 every week to justify the 2 trades (1 to get him in and 1 to move him out).

Girdle

I’m aware he won’t kick six every week. But looking at his BE, he only needs to score 60-80 in the next two games (possible against Collingwood and Carlton!) to get over $400k. That’s on the back of that 145 last week. Then it’s practically a straight swap to Hibberd/Malceski

Basil

I’m wanting to trade out cripps but I’m seeing a lot of people saying keep him. My

Bailey

My problem is that cripps having missed a game has put him behind others rookies in terms of price change. What does the community think??

Jules

Another question to ask which most of us are facing: is it worth trading Cripps or give him another go?

I can do GAJ to JPK and Cripps to Rich.

But I also have spud Rookies in J Nelson (WCE) and T Miller would it b better offing one of them to Van Berlo.

Or just don’t do the 2nd trade at all as I’ve already got the other must have rooks

Help appreciated

Gold Rush

NVB is going up approx 70K, I've dropped Miller for NVB as I want the cash generating machine cranking. Miller is safe for now.

Mac

Thoughts

Simpson, Shaw, Newnes, Kolo, Goodes, McIntosh, Oxley, Hamling
Ablett, Fyfe, Selwood, Beams, Parker, Cripps, Vandneberg, CEY, Heeney, Miller, Steele
Goldstein, Maric, Read
Gray, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clark, Hogan, Lonie, Lambert

Was thinking either to do one trade this week by doing Ablett to JPK but realised if I do 2 trades, I can trade Ablett to Lewis and Cripps to Rich.

Thoughts?

Boggers

reckon a lot of coaches will be following those trades this week

Hotplates

Bit of help here guys:

– Gaz to Lewis or Sloane? Thinking Lewis as best supercoach scorer in best side who will win most of their games.

– Then either:
– Miller/Cripps to NVB (Means missing out on Bont)
– TBC to Bont (Means I lose that ruck swing, but feel my scoring will be better for it – though I miss NVB as a cash cow)

Already have all other decent cash cows.

Dee

What's D. Rich'is break even anyone?

Filthy

Rich – current break even is -19

Jmy7

I am hating macaffer more and more for ruinning the winner of should be 3 brownlows and now fantasy footy, so….

I’ve got Jesus who will rise again, though as I have cripps and sheed, I’ll trade cripps out this week,

Now with may last trade of the week do I trade out kk/thumber for Tom McDonald or, or trade out Gary,

?can I trade Gary out next week without loosing to much dosh. Great article mr crimmins.. Need advice community

Mac

Keep Kolo, nothing wrong with him

Jmy7

Cheers

Gold Rush

Advice is – DON'T HATE.

Jmy7

yeah thank?

Tommy

ablett to sloane and then managed to get cripps to rich also cant decide who to start ibbo or oxley

Soul87

How longs Lambert out for? Wondering weather to trade him or not to hogan

Mac

6-8weeks

Davo

Trade by the time lambert is back you could have traded hogan to a premo

koodis

I know playing it safe and GAJ to Sloane is prob the safe option. But why do I keep convincing myself of going to Bont instead… Frees up more cash, probably at his lowest price for the season, and I feel u will always have a chance to pick up a premo mid on a price dip. Will be used as F5 or later in the season even F6..

Risky call but would rather have more cows to milk in the mids than up fwd

Thoughts?

Derrick

Ablett would of been your Captain choice at that price tag, so moving him to Bonts does not really do it for me. You might already have Fyfe & Pendles who are next in line for the C every week with no Ablett. But I think the safe best is to strengthen that void of no Ablett with a Sloane or JPK. Treloar started great last season but could not maintain it, I think Bonts is at similar risks. Sloane is proven & had a great consistency last season. At the moment he looks like he still has more to offer.

koodis

Thanks mate
Already have fyfe pendles selwood gray
All ready made captain replacements
Doesn’t make the decision any easier
Would only consider Sloane given the byes of the other premo mids I’ve already got

shane

The problem is that Bont may not be a keeper and if not the cash he generates is meaningless (unless its near 200k)

koodis

Not sure why everyone is off the Cripps train so early
He will get plently of game time this year
If you saw how they played last week their midfield apart from Judd was pathetic.. They will need to start giving their younger players time in the middle to develop as Judd will be retiring after this year

Favalinko u Beauty

Agreed

shane

Well thats just great isnt it. Spent all preseasin working out my top 8 mids and who would be off to a slow start from those (Ablett Rockliff and Selwood) Now everyone will have the same Mids as me. Those 5 guys you mention are my midfield with Ablett and co to come. Shattered lol

Phil

Be happy man you've nailed your midfield. Even if people do end up with the same midfield as you its cost them trades to get there and they won't get the first 2 scores of those guys which you do. Focus on getting your other lines right now.

shane

True. Thanks. Was pretty happy with my POD mids but the Abletts and Co have done worse than I hoped. Wanted ppl to hold ablett at least 2 more weeks. Lol. Oh well.

Rob

Boak is going for me. Has a massive BE and cant handle a tag.

I will have 578K if i trade him.

Any suggestions?

David

Wines

Nicholas

Hi community, i currently have ablett, cripps and goodes in my side. I dont have rich, sloane, oxley, jpk, nvb. I was wonderiung which is the better trades to make. I have 15k already in the bank. I was going to go ablett-sloane, cripps-rich but i am 3k off that. Any help is appreciated Thanks.

Brillsy21

Definitely trade Goodes for Oxley and then i'd say Ablett to JPK. I'm in the same boat as you except I already have Oxley so am stumped!

Gordo

Sheil from gws?

Brillsy21

who do I trade Goodes to if I don't have enough for T. Hunt and already have Saad, Mcintosh and Oxley?

Soul

Best option would be to hold him

Blueprime

Leave him on the bench. He will still get games. Probably wont be the sub all that often. Probably will earn you cash and be good cover at times. Brown is probably the only cheapie around and he is unlikely to rise much in price. AND IT WILL SAVE YOU A TRADE!!!

Gordo

goodes to bruce or hunt? and is it worth going newton to nvb

Matt

Tossing up between Wines or Shiel. Which of these two are a must have, and if so is there anyone else in this price range that looks good?

Gordo

I'm a big fan of shiel had him in a lot of the preseason but didn't have the balls to keep him and went to grifffen instead

jmy7

Wines is the pick for me and is in a better team,though sheils looks a player