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The Standing Room – Round 2

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11083867_809215515841934_9018198388225981870_nG’day Community! Welcome to The Standing Room!

This is a place where we can just stand around and have a chat about the footy over the weekend. A place where we can bounce ideas off one another and try to crack the Supercoach code. A place where no one is judged and everyone is safe…because as my great mate Jonathan Brown once said “we are a community and we bloody love each other.”


This Weeks Games

Friday 10th April

West Coast v Carlton

Saturday 11th April

Richmond v Western Bulldogs

Greater Western Sydney v Melbourne

Collingwood v Adelaide

Gold Coast v St Kilda

Port Adelaide v Sydney

Sunday 12th April

Geelong v Fremantle

Essendon v Hawthorn

North Melbourne v Brisbane


THIS WEEK’S MONEYBALL LEAGUES ARE READY FOR ENTRY CLICK HERE


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Jaden

Can I have some knowledge about Jaden Mcgrath please.

LEKD0G

14 disposals last week and a 70 for his effort. Honestly don't excpect anything higher from him, doesn't seem to have good JS yet

@AusSports84

I missed him this preseason and he looked very sharp vs the Pies in round 1. Personally, I'm bringing him in for an Ahmed Saad or Cripps (using DPP) if he puts up another strong show this week. Definitely looks in the Lions best 22.

LEKD0G

Preseason was poor but I think Saad-McGrath is solid next week

SC God

McGrath only played about les than 50% game time in preseason

Jaden

Thanks Guys. I made a mistake by picking Tim Mitchell without realising he is not playing. Now i am thinking of downgrading him to McGrath and cashing in 300k and make some adjustments to the team next week before the price goes up.

@MikeTulip

Bontempelli/Wingard IMO,

@AMcK3220

Jaden McGrath is a small, speedy midfielder who shows courage and agility. He had a frustrating run with injury, missing the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships but showed potential as a member of NAB AFL Academy Level 2 squad.
Background

• McGrath had a frustrating year in 2014, missing the U18 National Championships through injury.

• However the AFL AIS Academy graduate had shown enough to be invited to the AFL Draft Combine and ultimately be drafted by the Lions.

• McGrath was drafted with the Lions' second live pick on the draft, pick 73 overall

@AMcK3220

On ya Jock-son… WCE reported to drop guru Josh Kennedy for tonight ? Confirmed?

LEKD0G

I heard the same, if they do surely Hill or Lucas come in. Supposed to be wet so I'd expect a small to come in

FootyFanatic

There are reports that Sloane may not play this round! The carnage continues…

LEKD0G

Yeah mate, nightmare for those who have brought him in

shane

reverse trade?

Ben

I luckily had him as vc and he got 134 so i chucked the captaincy onto bartel, will help me get 2200 this round even though i brand brown on for goodes and left oxley on my bench :'(

@AMcK3220

‏@TimGossage 13 minutes ago

If the rumour Josh Kennedy is out of the @WestCoastEagles team tonight is true, you would have to start thinking @CarltonFC are favourites.

LEKD0G

I've got some money on them at $2.65 so here's hoping

shezza

Lekdog, I have Blues @ $2.75 absolute morals tonight (I’m a Pies supporter too). Melb are value as well, very impressed with them last week. Sorry to get your trouser region a bit “Jordan DE GOooooEY” but Judd is $13 for most possessions tonight. He has done his best work at that ground over the years

medadsson

Let's hope Cripps has a joyous return to WA on wide open spaces of Subi!!!

shezza

Agreed. Putting him as emg as i have Krakouer on the field. If he stinks it up, I’ll put Heeney in. I reckon he’ll get 70 or so

LEKD0G

I did the same thing Shez

medadsson

Cripps OUT! Don't think I am prepared to carry him now.

shezza

There goes my theory lol

Mike

Ouch. Never bet on your own team.

dognino

Hearing on the local radio Sloane has missed training today. Supposed to be just a precautionary, but any one looking to bring him in this week might want to keep a close eye out for a late withdrawal .

LEKD0G

Agreed

dognino

Quote from PhilWalsh , Rory Sloane is right to go, he has some tightness in the legs and we didn't want to train him 2 days in a row.

inztantkarma

Seeing some feisty coaches venting spleen at Geelong for not naming Jimmy. Don't blame Geelong… Blame Taylor Duryea who decided to pin Jimmy's arms and connect his coconut with the centre square with seconds left in a well and truly decided match.

One week. Relax.

@WHITEEEY99

Bartel out as well for those who don't know yet!

Rick

Sloane: Phil walsh has said that he was just a bit sore and didnt want to train 2 days in a row, but hes ready to go
Bartel: I have bartel, is he out? I looked at the lineups and hes still in.

@AusSports84

Bartel confirmed on all media sources.

Rick

Confirmed to play or confirmed to miss?

inztantkarma

to miss

Jacob
Jimi

I didn't want to trade this week but I'm now thinking of trading out Miller, swinging Lambert into the mids and bringing in McGrath in fwd. I'm happy with all my rookies and this is the only rookie correction I plan to make (either now or in Rd 2).

Pro: Means I still have 2 trades available for rd 2, where potentially I may have to make some big decisions about Ablett & my elite rucks.

Con: Only 1 week in, would like more time to assess rookies.

What are the communities' thoughts?

LEKD0G

I'd hold off for a week

Gobbledoks Pride

McGrath job security no there yet, Miller hold, Lambert you can get next week rookie correction. I'm thinking! Hold on Ablett you got him now rememember it's Ablett! So hold until R2 for rookie correction just my opinion mate!

Chris

What is Vandenbergs job security like? Thinking of next week trading him in for crisps if a repeat from last week happens..

shezza

I reckon good. Vince is back and from memory, no other decent mids to come back

jim

Jack Trengrove.
But he is aiming for 2016 return.

shezza

Who do you feel will get the vest for Hawks this game? I reckon O’Rourke. Thinking of putting Anderson on the field. Thoughts??

Bonters

I'd expect Anderson to get the vest again this week.

shezza

Over O’Rourke?

Jimi

Anderson was pretty solid after he got subbed on last week, scored 36 in a quarter. I think O'Rourke will start with the snot vest but unless there's any injury I think Anderson is still likely to get subbed off.

Frank

I'd had a couple Monday but didn't he come on start of 3rd?

Jimi

I thought it was more towards the end of the 3rd, but I wasn't watching closely. Even so, decent for 1/2 a game.

Cozza

It was early in the third from memory – remember commentators saying they were surprised Hawks had pulled the trigger so early. That said, still scored on for a rookie in less than a half – and he hit the post twice

wattsieesq

I expect Doc to be the sub. Shiels out, Birch in. Doc replaced by Birch in the 18 and Jed replaces shiels in the 18.

wattsieesq

Well scratch what I just said as Doc has been dropped

Richard

Anderson will play full game…im almost 100%…he is Clarko's love child. He is the next Dane Beams and i reckon Clarko will be wrapped to get an injury and feel comfortable to have him play a whole game…Anderson will score 80-100 on Sunday…come back at me hard if im wrong…

derek

I didn't see Ablett play last week so I don't know how lame he is. I'll be watching him close this week, Im not going to take anyone else word on it until I have seen him play.

LEKD0G

Looked like an 80 year old

dognino

Looked bad, but he is genius and always puts himself in the right spot, hence 2 late goals to boost his score. Can't count him out even tho he's unfit.

shezza

Favoured his dodgy shoulder. Ran funnily. Viney smashed him every opportunity. Lucky to get 80 points to be honest

seaford scouse

Wise words Derek, check it out for yourself before making a call. He looked rusty as but it was first competitive hit out since he went down last year so that has to be expected and even Jesus needed his disciples and the suns as a whole failed to deliver big time, I'm expecting them to lift significantly this week and baby J to improve, not sure they can afford him the luxury of a sub vest either unless there 10 up going into the last.

NickyV

What are your thoughts on 2 trades this week and 2 trades next week to set my team for the price increase at round 3, And then I won't trade for a while unless injuries unfold? Cheers community!

shezza

After receiving feedback and reading comments, maybe it is worth trading this week if you have a Sidebottom or a Rockliff and if you don’t, next week you do corrective trades.

nicko

Depends on reasons for trading players. See articles on the sites during the week and buy a PDF copy of the magazine if you didn’t get the real paper stuff. Have a look at Trading Your Way to Success in there.

Jimi

As the advice has been on the page this week, I'd only be trading early to correct rookies and adjust team structure. Are you sure you need to used 4 trades to do that before rd 3?

seaford scouse

check put John Bs article as well mate, very sage advice from a champion. Despite the more popular view of not trading this week other than injuries there are certainly very valid reasons to do so if circumstances permit and you can hold your structures. good luvk

Sammy

Pendles or Gray for VC
C is on Fyfe

Jimi

60/40 Pendles.

Phil

Same here actually. I don't like Pendles as a VC, I reckon he is more C (after your VC has failed) material because he is so consistent but doesn't go really large very often.

LEKD0G

Pendles, loves Etihad and dominates Adelaide

Luke

Can anyone see some logic in trading out R Griffen scored (70) to Daniel Rich scored (126)? and Lumumba (73) to Geary (111) ? thinking i can save some big dollars with doing those two trades. going from $48k in the band to $315k in the bank? REALLY NEED SOMEONES OPINION PLEASE. DIG IN COMMUNITY!

nicko

Not this week No. And probably not next week either. You picked those players for a reason.

Is anybody here reading the articles and listening to the podcast before they post?

Stop panicking and keep your trades.

Vince

Why sideways trade after round one? The sample size doubles this weekend, make an informed decision leading imto round 3 and the price changes.

dognino

Those scores could easily be reversed this week, would you then trade Griffey back in next week if he scores 130?

Jez

Absolutely not, hold for another week and if they underperform again then re-assess. Don't go chasing last weeks points.

demon

unless you have discoverd some screct cheat that allows you obtain last weeks points in the trade, NO

@Rem_Wah

Don't see any value in those trades, Luke. HOLD.

Jambo

If you did, you just wasted two trades. I think Griffen is likely to go huge this week given he's copped flak over the out-of-character performance last week. Geary (Wayno will disagree with me on this) is a mid-priced trap. Hold Lumumba. You'll still get at least 70-80 each week which is still an above par scores given the limited options you have available.

Gobbledoks Pride

Only trade if your playing Rookies are not right (if you don't have the right ones from the start), or if injury's to premiums happens! Lumumba V's Geary will both avg the same by seasons end so hold on that one, and well Griffen V's Rich both cant handle the tag, Rich may be more $$$ increase at seasons end but will not be a massive amount when comparing Griffens $$$! just my opinion tho!
So I say NO TO BOTH changes! Good Luck

Luke

Also who gets the gig for D6? Brett Goodes or Adam Saad?!?!?!

LEKD0G

You gotta back in Goodes if you have him

Jambo

Saad.

Gobbledoks Pride

coin toss mate!

Nash

Should we be considering taking out Hugh Godard out of our teams as he's not playing and could be a towngrade target

Phil

I kinda liked the idea of Lambert not playing this week so I could loophole Cripps tonight and get a 2nd change with Vanderberg tomorrow if need be. But now that he is who should I play at M8, Cripps, Vanderberg or Lambert?
I'm leaning towards Cripps because I'll know if he is sub or not first.

Captain Pugwash

Where is Jack Steele from GWS.

Jacob

I've got Gary Ablett as VC and am tossing up between D. Beams or N. Fyfe (maybe even Luke Parker)
Thoughts??

seaford scouse

be wary of parker after going down last week but what a performance up till then, fyfes a solid pick for mine but id advise to check out the barons article mate pretty much done all the research you need for the captains pick.

Hwath

Anyone else just hear that Kennedy might be a late out tonight. Not SC relevant but if you’re having a punt it certainly is. Go blues.

shezza

Put your balls on the Blue baggers

Jimi

Balls must be hurting πŸ˜‰

shezza

Extremely sore. I’m clearly off my head!!!!!!!!

Jacob

Adam Saad or Isaac Heeney at M6?

Luviboy1

Heeney.

shezza

Saad only with the theory, pick the player who is playing the weaker team

JDogg

Heeney looked the business last week.

Hawkeye

If i trade out Rocky for Danger before the bounce tonight. Can i change my mind tomorrow morning or is that trade locked in once the round starts ????

dognino

Can't reverse after the first bounce, better off holding trades to last minute if you're unsure

Old Bugger

I feel like lycett will be crap this year and Ibbotson too.

Question 1. What does the community think of Taylor hunt.

Question 2. Should I drop lycett for injury prone bellchambers?

Cyril is Delicious

I dropped Lycett for Brodie Grundy, if that helps?

Dave

Watched Hunt last week at the game Old Bugger, and off half back I rate him. He's not tagging, is a good rebound player and kicks it too.

Gobbledoks Pride

Players changing clubs always seem to do well in there first year at a new club!! his job security looks good for now but being Richmond you never know, I feel he is a gamble, and if you already have anymore then 2 mid pricers (Defenders) in your back line I would say NO just a opinion tho! Lycett to much $$$$, only value in him if Nic Nat go's down!!
Good Luck

dognino

Lycett scored 96 last night, without doing too much , I'd take that from a $400k investment

LEKD0G

CRIPPS OUT!

NickyV

should i trade?

Anthony

Lekdog as a fellow Blues fan, please help me out. Is it worth using a trade to go Cripps to Rich, I don't believe all the hype that Rich will be tagged given that none of Brisbane's next 4 opponents have a recognised tagger.

LEKD0G

Hold, trades this week are too risky

medadsson

Problem now is are we prepared to carry CRIPPS? Not me. Was happy to see how he'd go but have to move before round 3 so no chance now.

LEKD0G

hold until an obvious choice is there to replace him

dognino

Should have cover, for me it's a good chance for lambert to catch up to Cripps, as I don't have lambert. They will both be on the bubble together and I can see if it's worth trading Cripps out for lambert at the beginning of R4

medadsson

Thanks to Lekdog and all others advocating against a trade. Sense has prevailed, my panic has passed πŸ™‚ Cripps retained.

jock

to trade KK for rich ? thoiughts community, this would bring saad from idfield to backline

Dave

good move, wouldn't have had thumper to start with, but rich is a big mover. The trousers are stretching.

jmy7

those with bloody dom sheed like me, i had him on the bench, now with cripps out do i put him on or heeney??? decisions decisions. would love your thoughts lekdog

Tony

I’m normally very reluctant to trade after week 1 unless I have a LTI in my side. I’m a little worried however as I have Bartel, Lamb and Bellchambers in my forward line. The first two are out and the reports about TBC being sore concern me. I also see that McKernan was upgraded from rookie list and is named as emergency. As it’s one of the last games of the round I can’t really take a wait and see approach as I’ll have few options to trade to. I don’t want to eat a doughnut but I don’t want to trade unnecessarily. Thoughts? Am I just being paranoid?

Jacob

Keep Lamb as the rookies prices won't change until they have played 3. Lambert plays this weekend so have a look at him and even wait until after rd 3 before making a swap of Lamb for Lambert. I think you should also hold onto TBC as he makes for very good ruck cover and you could possibly be burning a total of two trades if you trade him out now. As for Bartel hold if you think one of your rookies could replace him

Richard

TBC trained today…i doubt he will be a late withdrawal…why train someone with a sore knee???

Tony

Thanks Richard. I wasn't aware that he had trained today. That gives me more hope!

Jambo

TBC has just been reported as fine and will play this week. Bench Lamb and Bartel. Hold mate. Sometimes, you just have to take the 0's to score big later on. No, you are not being paranoid.

Tony

Cheers Jambo.

Paul

I missed vanderberg but have Cripps and Sinclair from saints and miller at the Suns. Which one should I trade, or shall I hold for a week?

Nick

Cripps to Lamert?? Or just hold

Mitch

HOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gobbledoks Pride

Not happy with my teams start for Round 1 with a terrible start to the season scored 1988 (1st mistake of season made by Gobbledoks Pride by making Griffen captain insead of Ablett) and with Bartell and Deledio out this week I may loss more ground if I don't do something drastic! My thinking is I'm already probably about 150 points off where I need to be (to compete for overall ranking!) so I am gambling with two side ways trades on premiums trying to get some points back from last round! Anyone else thinking the same ???????????????????

Jambo

1988 is still a decent score for last week mate.

Jason

Does anyone think Jed Anderson could escape sub vest this week with O'rourke playing???

Tony

I think O'Rourke will get vest.

Riley

O'Rourke is almost certainly gonna cop the vest! Expect Anderson to take Liam Shiels role through the midfield!

Paul

Cripps a late out., i already have CEY, heeney, vandenberg and touk. Hold or trade and if so who do i trade to?

LEKD0G

hold

Seb

My trade button had already been clicked

Tulendeena

And your reverse trades button hasn't yet?

Seb

That's right

Gobbledoks Pride

Hold until R2 for rookie correction time, I'm thinking!!

Chris

Ok community thoughts..

1. Don't have vandeberg in my side. do i trade him for cripps.
2. Hold for now, swap robbie gray into my mids for lambert, put cripps on the bench for this week and keep him. Then put jesse hogan onto the field instead of lambert..

LEKD0G

hold cripps for this week

eatemalive

agree

Mitch

EVERYONE HOLD ONTO YOUR ROOKIES!!!

throttlefinger

As Lek told me…don't bring in a rook before their bubble.

Wise words we all must heed…especially those who are trade trigger happy like myself.

OldOcker

G'day throttle, I joined DT last year just to solve the itchy trade finger problem, You can do it twice every week just to keep yourself satisfied. I have been criticised for saying don't bring in a rookie until the bubble many times but I still stick to my beliefs which have proven me correct.

throttlefinger

Hahaha! Well said. And I think it's sound advice. Just one of those gems of wisdoms that get lost once selections are made and people are surprise last-minute outs.

Crouching Two

BANG BANG BANG

BCHawks

Just traded Maric to Leunburger and Cripps to Rich. Am I mad?

medadsson

Hope it works for you even if you are stark, raving … πŸ™‚

BCHawks

Yer I really hope it works my reasoning behind the trades is that Maric had 33 HO for only 82 points where as leuy had 25 HO for 96 points.

Cripps looked terrible last week and with Rockliff out Rich will play more mid time so hopefully he can average 95+.

I wasn't planning on trading this week but with Cripps a late out I decided to and anyway we have 30 trades what bad is it loosing 2 of them.

throttlefinger

Yes. EXTREMELY.

But go with SC Gods, my friend. Hope they reward you.

BCHawks

Thanks Throttlefinger!

JDogg

i go against the general consensus on this board in relation to trades. I like to use a few upfront and get my structures correct and then attempt to hold through to the bye rounds before making the midseason adjustments.

Gobbledoks Pride

Just be cautious with RICH he really cant handle a tag at all!! I'm a mad Lions supporter with Rockliff, and Handley OUT and Beams pretty much un taggable they will go to RICH for shore! Supercoach is all about risks that's how its won and lost!

BCHawks

I recon they will tag Zorko before Rich if they Don't tag Beams.

Paule

ok with Bartel out do i start with J.Lonie or C.Salem in my fwd line?
and which 3 in my mids out of Heeney, Ellis Yolmen, T.Miller, J.anderson, and K.Lambert?
cheers community

throttlefinger

You can loop Salem and Lonie. Keep Bartel in, put the EMG on Salem. If he doesn't fire (70+), slot in Lonie. But games are close so you'll have to act quickly.

Heeney, CEY and Lambert (unless he gets vest…then Miller).

shayne

What are peoples thoughts on young Brayshaw not alot of talk about him

jacob

I’m surprised there’s not a lot of talk about him. If you can lay 9 tackles and score 86 SC points from 3/4 of footy in your first afl match you have to be some player. I’m very likely to bring him in next week. For either lamb or miller.

rowdy

Im trading Rockliff but who out of Beams or Lewis

Sulzeer

Lewis was the POD, but since rocky went down and Lewis had a huge score in round 1, Beams is probably the POD now

daniel

Lewis is the business this year in a cleally better side, will have more opportunity to go big

throttlefinger

Can't go wrong with either. Plus and cons are fairly even. Lewis on better team so more points. Rocky out means could be more points for Beams. Gut call, my man.

rowdy

Thanks guys happy supercoaching

Motsy

Guys what do we think about Wallis in his new role?

Redgumwon

Love Wallis in his new role. I took a punt on him and he was in my team before round 1. It's has turned out very well for me so far. He's also a great POD player and will get me into a premium down the track

Sulzeer

Having trouble with defence, who do I play thumper or saad?

Choices

Bont + Wines VS JPK + Wallis

Sulzeer

I'd be going JPK as the proven premo.. Must be other options over Wallis

Bob

Should I put sheer on the field?

Bob

Sheed?

Tulendeena

over who?
Kinda irrelevant now anyway

dognino

Nic Nat on 44 points at Qtr time. Rucks are not dead

dognino

Nic Nat finished with 103 and lycett 96. Thought the scores are fairly reflective of their games, not many possessions between them , thought Nic Nat did a lot of positive stuff that you just don't get points for, impacted some contests , some spoils and shepherds , looks good on field and good team stuff, but doesn't translate to SC points.

carlashirley90

I will take 95 avg from Nic Nat all year with these current scores due to new ruck scoring rules

Locked and Loaded

Ruck scoring will be just as other years wait and see. If I am wrong I'll deserve all the criticism I get

Gobbledoks Pride

Nic Nat ruck work was awesome compared to lycett really cant work out how the hell they pretty much scored the same!!

Dognino

Nic Nat wasn't getting any points for the follow up work he was doing, getting points for the hit out, but nothing for the shepherd or the following tap to a player, if he got his hands on it and ha balled out of those contest he would end up with another 10 possessions, but he always taps it out of a contest so gets nothing. Great example was one of the last goals where he contested the mark from behind, turned and jumped on the ground ball with two opposition on his back and squeezed a tap out to a team mate who kicked the goal, he got 1 SC point for that play. Great team play, but nothing for SC. If he had of got hands on it and handballed he would have had the contested possession and a goal assist.

demon

Bit of a joke that the scaling rewards judd and yarran for not turning up after half time.
barely had a touch between them 2nd half and yet they both crack the ton due to first qtr efforts

carlashirley90

Lol I have been saying this since round one
Take a look at the game wher mids have got 19-22 posies and they get 100+ SC points

This is the smoking gun that Ruck scores this year are real not myth.

Think of SC every game is a piece of pie, Rucks new scoring rules would have it that they gets less of that pie.
More pie for everyone who is not a Ruckman then you see whole picture.

Warm apple pie

The Ranger

Shit.
I may have seriously overestimated how good Carlton were gonna be this season.
And I'm a Collingwood fan.

James

Trading out Rockliff obviously and his replacement is out of Pendles, Beams, JPK and PARKER. Who to go??

Crowls

1. pendles
2. JPK/Beams

TheCompletePackage

Q: Why don't you trade out rookies after a poor R1?
A: Dom Sheed
#stickfat #backyourselfin