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PODCAST: An appeal for CALM.

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Supercoach 2015

Rockliff. Sidebum. Deledio – and other dramas.

What an opening round of the season community! If you’ve escaped without a round 1 stain on the underpant you’ve done bloody well.
The real game starts now my friends. Will you hold your nerve and think with clarity in the wake of a torrid opening round? Or will you jump the gun on your selections?
Enjoy the showย folks.
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CJay

In like Flynn

Hamish

Pick 1: Pendles, Selwood, Sloane, Shiel, Wines, Treloar, Lewis, Ellis

Hamish

Need to trade Sidebottom

Kev

All fantastic options, Hamish. Throw a blanket over Sloane/Pendles/Selwood/Lewis

scrofl

"Pick 1"
Picks 4 haha

randomcliche

Dependlebury clear 1 on history but putting on my forward thinking goggles I see successful hawk line up with a fit Mitchell Hodge Langford led by Mr Lewis. I don’t watch enough adelaide to evaluate Sloan. Selwood has dipped enough in the past to make him upgrade target Imo.

Marty

Sloane

judd0

I think if your looking for ultra premium reliability you have to get Pendlebury, you will most likely end up getting him anyway at some stage throughout the season.
So you might as well get him now whilst you wait and see which other midfielders rear there supercoach head.

Dean

I couldn't agree more Re: Pendlebury, especially now that sidebutt is out for quite some time.

cow roll

Sloane.

T-mitch

Only scored 2080 but will stay strong and keep calm, no need to make a correction trade at this stage, very confident there is a lot of room for improvement in my side

Clunker

I think you’ll find 2080 is way above average for R1.

Tofor

In the same boat with 2071. Didn't all go according to plan!

jimmydowland

god i love your wise words jock in times of hardship

NateCrows

I reckon you will trade arse off Jock. Baaang Baaang. Dusty out Walker in Griffen out Wines in

Frank

Clubhouse leader in Jocks Supercoach League. Can taste the champagne in the hummer already!

Jambo

Don't get too far ahead of yourself there, Frank.

Frank

Good point, I might not even drink alcohol next year…lets rephrase that to "I can already taste the strippers"

Clunker

The boy Dusty Martin better not be on the way for yet another season of Supercoach disappointment. I’m starting to think that his price has been his price for years because that’s all he’s gonna deliver. He is a ball tickler.

@HJ_Mitch

I don't think he's a ball tickler, Clunker. I think he's an out and out, tattooed ball teaser!!

Clunker

I fear you maybe right. My balls do feel tickled.

Marco_Polo94

Will be waiting another week but if he offers another performance like that correcting to Tex

Clunker

Sounds good. It’s Dusty v Texas this week.

Jayden

Dusty V Tex V Swan for me

PDAP

You are crazy to be even thinking like you are, otherwise you will be trading two players every week and you will have zilch trades for the SC finals. They are both keepers. Are Jacob holders trading him out? No.

judd0

He averages the least amount of supercoach points against carlton out of any other team.
I still think he will be a top 6 FWD this year. I bloody hope so anyway because I have him, but will be sticking with him for a while.

Tulip

Thank you Jock,
After a weekend of underperforming premiums, injuries and reports. We need your guidance! On the download now.

Tom.McV

Hey community
Do I trade out B.Goodes for S.Savage? I think I've nearly seen enough for Savage, or do you think I hold off till next week?

Kev

Ask yourself why are you trading out Goodes, Tom? Is there are a reason or is it simply chasing last weeks points?

Tom.McV

Yeah thanks Kev I was chasing last weeks points, stressing out about the backline

lm11

pretty stupid decision imo

Mister_Spock

Savage is $100K more than Goodes – better options available for less (e.g. Geary), but I would wait another week

Jacob

Goodes is priced at $245k, he scored 70 and everybody's panicking. I don't get why he scored 25 more than he's priced to average and i'm sure he'll perform better in the weeks to come.

Tofor

Spot on. 70 for a 245k is no disaster.
Martin was more concerning.. and Priddis. Ouch.

Dean

Tom are you new to this mate?
Why would you consider trading out Goodes after he scored 68, are you aware that his price average is only 45 so hypothetically speaking even if he scores only 35 points in his next two games he still won't go down in price, but if he scores around 70 in his next 2 rounds he will increase in price.

The last thing you want to do is chase last weeks scores because more often then not, when you go ahead and make these trades, you'll find Goodes will go out and scores 90+ and someone like Savage scores 50 this happens all the time.

Out of curiosity why Savage as opposed to Geary? I have Goodes & Geary and I expected Goodes to score between 50 to 60 so I was quite happy with his 68 considering he has not played much. In saying this providing Goodes remains injury free, I believe he will average 75 by the time the bye rounds start, which means his price will increase to about $400k then I will look to upgrade him.

Good luck

Jimmy Joe

Jock. Your words are like a lullaby to my ears after such a testing round. At last I feel I can sleep soundly without hitting ‘trade’. I thank you. However, I’m feeling guilty about my brutal jealousy to those supercoachers who picked Taylor Walker. Any advice?

Kev

2174, and a 2657 weekly ranking. Great start. Jelwood, H. Taylor, and Newnes were my premium downers. As a high priced rookies Cripps and Salem will need to go bang next week to justify there pricetags. Don't want to be stuck with them if they turn out to be a slow burners

Hazey

There must be a heap of ppl from 2100-2200. I got 2111 and am just outside the 10,000.

Seb

I scored 2,101 and I'm ranked 12,000

Frank

2342 got me to 21. Bit upset i'm not on page 1

Jayden

2144 got me 5,178

Dean

2163 got me to 3440

I just done a check on the rankings and calculated the figures from those who are ranked from 2150 to 2200 and there are 3420 people within that 50 point margin bracket.

Those who scored 2150 have a overall ranking of 4573 compared to those who scored 2200 have a overall ranking of 1406 so there are hundreds on the same scores obviously. It just goes to show you how serious every point counts, its incredible.

Good luck guys

Patch

love it gents. have to agree with you, Jock, Wines is an absolute beast and will average 115 this year (#plumsontheline), and I'm not a fan of Dangerfield. Managed to scape the 2000 but what carnage it was getting there.

Tyler

Just gone wild , scored plenty of crap scores eg. Selwwod 69 , cripps 50 , h Taylor 58 oxley, griffin, newnes , salem , gave me a horrible total of 1954 . Tex in for Salem and griffin down to rich.

jimmydowland

mate you selected those blokes for a reason, to trade them out on one bad score to a guy who had one good score…. next week salem could just as easy score 100 and rich score 40…

think about it

PDAP

I agree. One of the rules of supercoach is NOT to select a FF or a CHF (except for Buddy who roams anyway) Tex had a super day out and I doubt he will every repeat that monstrous SC score yet many have jumped on 'the Texan bandwagon' – beware. Same with Dusty. He is a mid fwd and chances are he will do well again.

TOPHAWK1

It is only the first game of the season mate. All coaches are in the same boat as you are. Some coaches may be off to a better start than you, but only 4% of the season has been completed. Best thing to do is chill and think long and hard about the players in your team, and only trade them out at this stage if they have a long term injury (Rockliff or Sidebottom for example).

Otherwise, just relax and watch your players next week and if Griffen, taylor etc f?%k up again then get rid of them before the price changes.

Its a 26 week game of chess with only 30 trades. Remember that.

cow roll

Your players are fine. I worry a bit about Griff as he doesn't do well when he's tagged. But I would not pick Rich.

Clunker

Is it possible that 2100 is now a par score for Supercoach in 2015?

Canny the Manny

2100 has always been a safe score.

skate or die

thumper, crips and sheed.. hit the trade button or hold?

matty D

Hold, KK see how he goes, don't throttle finger him, Cripps well obvisously wasent going to average 100 like he did nab cup, should improve on last weeks performance, and sheed, give him some time, atkleast 1 more week then assess the price rise of other rookies and make the decision of what to do

Tofor

Hold Hold and Hold.

carlashirley90

Bloody hell back your premiums and let the cows fatten lol, already see lots of crazy trade questions, this any different to any coaching year?
Trade out an injured player example Rocky, yes trade

I scored 2068 with picking Rockliff over Ablett and im not worried, one corrective trade and sticking to my structures

Sarah

Great advice! I'm doing the same. No trades for me this week. Backing in my premiums and rookie research.
Having said that, if Salem pulls out another 50 score and Walker looks even half the beast he did against North this week, them I'll be making that trade using my 'Gaz' money. I was at the Gaz game and he did not look like the Gaz of old at all. Hope he improves but at this stage that arm looks like it's being held on by the tape!!

randomcliche

Thanks Sarah. Love the vindication of sticking to mad mick’s rule -full preseason. Note to self. Don’t buy nic nac.

TOPHAWK1

Exactly what I did. Only one corrective trade. Rockliff traded out for another big performing premo from this round. (My new primo pick is a secret! LOL)

Just like you, I am not worried at all. My first round score of 2084 is a solid start. I might not be on top now, but its about being on top at the finish line. Gotta be patient and ready to pounce with your trades when they present during the season.

TOPHAWK1

Having second thoughts trading Rocky after reading latest news on him today. He reckons he will be back in 2 weeks for the Eagles game in round 4! If this is the case, then he would miss 2 rounds and I would take the punt to bench him. To save a valuable 1-2 trades (out now and then likely back in later in the season) as he is a keeper IMO. The dilemma is this: What if his declaration today was just Dutch courage and him being over optimistic? Or is he fair dinkum? At this stage I am tempted to bench him this weekend and see how his injury progresses/improves in the coming week. Next week should give full clarity of his situation.

The thing with ribs is that he could wear a protective brace to protect the injury when playing. Despite being in pain, he may have the mental fortitude to pull it off and be back for round 4.

I am torn between him being a "forced" ,"corrective" trade, or non trade! Right now I am tempted to stick with him this week and see where he is at next week before making the final call on him.

Any thoughts?

SCaddict

I'm with you Jock, Gaz is looking very trade-able right now if you are serious about rank. Sure by all means hold him if you want to conserve your trades with a focus on league final wins only.

But it looks like he is just one good tackle away from missing a month of footy or more and has to be a decent chance of a red vest this weekend, assuming he even plays. It's hard to see him pumping out those 150s and 160s any time soon.

So you might want to move him out this week as you'll really need those 2 trades next week to jump on the best rookies and potentially get rid of the Cripps, Sheeds, Salems etc if they again spud things up and there are cheaper better alternatives out there.

Clunker

The little bloke only touched it 19 times and scored 119. What happens when he gets it 25 or 30?

SCaddict

He looked just inches away from getting that red vest at various times on the weekend.

A healthy Gaz, or even 80% fit, then sure no worries but he doesn't look at all right to me. I guess we'll see how he trains during the week and then each Gaz holder will have to make their own call there. But as much as I'd like to hold him I'm about 50/50 atm tbh.

throttlefinger

Gotta hold him for another game. Regardless, his value will be hitting the elevator shaft R3. And probably even more so R4 after the Cats have at him.

Spifflicator

I actually ran the numbers on him over the past three seasons. Including this game he has played 57 games during that time, and has gone under 30 possessions 22 times, with 4 of those 20 or less. His SC scores averages are 150 for over 30, 108 for under 30 and 80 for 20 and under. 119 is highest ever score from 20 or less possessions by a massive 52pts, so if he plays similarly next week he will likely score 60 odd.

So the do we or don't we trade him comes down to this, will he get over 30 possessions anytime soon? If yes keep, if no trade him.

Holty

Love the research Spifflicator. I have Ablett and was very happy that he somehow scored 119. However, I am not one for sideways trades and will not get rid of him. That does not mean I'm not concerned though. He did not manage to grab anything above his shoulders because he simply could not physically do it. The most concerning was when he received that handball in the goal square in the last quarter (when the game was on the line) for a open goal and could not lift his arms to grab it. That being said, he is GOD in Supercoach, I'll hold but if he puts another couple of lame performances together, I'll regret not grabbing Lewis.

Michael

Big call boys, I'll be holding him unless he's injured for 2+ weeks, and I'll be still putting the C on him. Hoping everyone takes your advice though, not often God Jnr becomes a POD!!

Clunker

Agreed Michael.

Marco_Polo94

I watched the game closely and watched Gaz closely the entire game (just like every other man and his dog) and I reckon the whole thing has been taken out of proportion. The commentary team didn't shut up about his shoulder and exaggerated the whole situation in my opinion. He got knocked around heavily and a few of those tackles had me concerned. However by the end of the game I was confident he was still a good selection. He was in and under. He looked fit. He didn't look hampered. If he didn't think he was right he would have asked for the vest himself. Hold.

SCaddict

Really? I had my heart in my mouth the entire 120 minutes. He was barely moving his left arm at all during the game. Didn't lay a single tackle either for a player who averaged 6 per game last season.

Might be able to get away with it against the Dees but I'm definitely one on the concerned list obviously.

Marco_Polo94

I just feel like its because it is ablett and because its his first injury everyone is losing their minds. I was looking closely at his arm too, but it's almost like we are making the injury seem worse than it is because every slight jog where his arm was by his side we all went "ooh he is in pain". But then the times he jogged with his right arm by his side we deem that as normal. I dunno. Could be wrong. My gut says hold, and the two times i haven't listened to my gut so far has already cost me so I'm not doing it again aha.

SCaddict

Yeah I really don't want to burn a trade on him myself only to get him in back later, but right now I'm seriously considering it.

Hopefully he has a good week of training and I'll feel more at ease than I am right now. For no training = no Gaz for me.

TOPHAWK1

I agree with you. Gaz is underdone. Never played a single NAB Challenge match. Why? Because he was buying time. His shoulder needs more time to recover properly. Gaz is normally in my side every day of the week. Like you, I am not prepared to risk 700 K to get him now. Simple as that.

Dean

I hear your concern SCaddict, but as I said a few weeks back, GAJ will be subconsciously concerned about the injury for his first 4 to 6 games, he will continue this way until his confidence builds up again, its just human nature.

However because of this Re: his average being no higher then 120 by round 4 to 6 will mean he will be at least $100k cheaper.
Those who don't have him just keep watching him and if he is fine and doesn't miss games or doesn't start with the snot Vest, then jump on him around round 7 because by then his confidence level would have increased dramatically so he will play accordingly, then he will start scoring his usual 140+ scores and obviously increase in value.

For Gods sake the guy scored 119 practically with his arm tied behind his back. He is a freak.

Sarah

Were we watching the same game? Sure you weren't watching a reply from another year?? He skirted the packs the whole time. Didn't see him go under a pack and get his own ball at all. I was there. I watched him like a hawk because I didn't start with him in my team and by the end, even though he SOMEHOW scored 119, I feel comfortable with my decision.

Marco

I don’t agree with that I saw him go in and under. Still feel like everyone is just on an Ablett injury bandwagon. That was the worst possible performance Ablett could do and he scored 119. I honestly think he’s fine.

Marco

Just to be clear all I’m saying is if you started him you hold him. It will be too hard and wasting trades just to bring him back in 3 or 4 rounds. In my opinion.

shezza

I watched it too Sarah and I agree. He sheep dogged it and Viney smashed him every opportunity he had. I haven’t got Gaj either and so far, glad I don’t. His price will drop. Griffen is in the gun this week.

Trab Pukcip

Mate, he didn't even make a tackle??!!

Marco

I’m not saying I’m right, I’m just saying my opinion. And my opinion is he will be fine.

Dan

do prices change after week 2 or week 3?

Mr Spock

Week 2 Dan

Bonters

Are you sure about this Mr Spock? Has always been after week 3 due to prices being based on 3 week averages.

SCaddict

Yeah prices change once a player's THIRD game has been played so if you want to either dump or jump on someone you want to do this BEFORE that happens i.e. after round 2 occurs.

Westy

2089 for Round 1 – Appear to have avoided the carnage.
One change – McIntosh in for Steele (who I didn't have opportunity to change out pre-game). The Goddard DEF/FWD swing has already come in handy. Now the question is have him or Saad Wondersoap on the field.
Wins (100+) – Simpson, Lewis, Sloane, Ablett, Pendlebury, Beams, Goldstein, Bontempelli, Gray.
Losses (70 or less) – Newnes, Goodes, Taylor, Ibbotson, Oxley, Cripps, Miller, B Goddard, Lamb, Salem (and 4 donuts on the bench).

Clunker

Wondersoap has played himself comfortably into G.F.C’s best 18.

Conor

Friend got 10 points higher than me and was ranked over 2000 spots ahead of me, looks like everyone is having some pretty close scores which is always good when things are tight, Not good if everyone has the same team tho.

Also figured out that 2110 points is the cut off for the top 10,000 and a couple will get in with a score of 2111

Conor

Otherway round with the points if anyone was reading the second part

Michael

2120 and fairly happy, had CEY & JedA on field instead of Heeney & Vandenberg but you get that with rookies!
Decided to stay with GAJ as C instead of risking on Sloane, so a little unlucky there.
Rucks are a bit of a concern (Maric, McEvoy) but I'm not on my Pat Malone there!
Have cover for Lids next week as well as Parker if he doesn't get up, so no trades for me this week.
Captain loophole very tricky next week, with Collingwood finishing just before GCS and Syd games playing at same time, so may have to put VC on Pendles into GAJ.

Motsy

Hey Guys,

The McGrath boy from Lions, is he worth bringing in?
Where did he play? Is Rockliffs outage helping his cause in mids? Or was he actually stuck up fwd?

Cheers

Jackson

Out and Out gun will play every week and was playing down back of the half back line

Clunker

Played high half fwd and pushed up onto the wings at times.

Bonters

Depends on who you'd be bringing him in for.

In most cases I'd say it's not urgent at all so I'd give it another week and see how he goes Round 2.

Fromberger

I know we should hope our trades & stay calm but geez Griffen was poor… I was convinced he would explode but looked disinterested?

Thinking of punting one of my punts Ricky Henderson with Griffen for Brodie Smith & Rich? I know that sounds like chasing points but one lots going south while the others north in a big way?

Thoughts please community & Jock?

SCaddict

I'd be keeping Griffen for the time being. If he gets another sub 90 score then yes the concern level will rise but he is a quality player.

I also wouldn't be immediately jumping on Brodie Smith just yet. That was a very skewed game on the weekend with the Roos not coming to play.

Fromberger

Thanks SC! Roos were terrible apart from Goldy. So hold firm?

SCaddict

Yeah unless someone is clearly injured I think you have to hold these guys at least another week.

If Brodie Smith goes gangbusters again then by all means jump on him before the price rises next week but at least you'll have a sample size of two weeks of data to make your decisions with.

Sarah

Excellent advice for everyone there SCaddict.

Brett

Agreed on griffen … his work rate was pretty much non existent ! Prob the main issue with my side 2143 , selwood, newnes , martin … take the good with the bad !

Very early too pull the trigger, though at his price , his not exactly bargain basement hmm

Mr Spock

I'll be holding him for another week. Five of his last six games against St Kilda have yielded less than 100 points, and three of those were mid-70's! Should pick up the pace against Melbourne and Sydney

DamonG

Managed to pull out 2264 this week, ranked 234 and would be lying if I said I wasn't satisfied. Couldn't have got off to a better start without Jock and the Inner Sanctum, however there is still work to be done, the real stuff starts now. Please community, stick with your guns – you picked them for a reason! Worst thing to do is panic and burn trades, keep calm,

@t_woof

Crouching's Pyanmanese story had me in stitches!! So good!! Never disappoints.

Will need a 'Best of' Pyanmanese Stories podcast at seasons end.

Keep up the good work.

Enjoy the week ahead all!

Cowboy

Absolutely agreed.

Donavan

Maybe a CD, so I can put it on in the kids room at bedtime….they will laugh so hard they will be tied. And don't think they would fight trying to not go to bed.

Touchwood

Will this redtube Crouching speaks of, help send my supercoach scores rocketing upwards?

Thomas

What do I do with Ibbotson

Cezza93

Keep, tough opposition still got 15 disposals, efficiency well down because of forward press

Clunker

Another one like that and Ross Lyon will be asking the same question.

SCaddict

Not injured like some others so HOLD mate.

TTJ

Playing as the 3rd tall defender & I would expect his scoring will be limited some what due to this.

Although, I would hold for this week at least & hope that either Dawson or Silvagni make a speedy recovery from injury.

Cezza93

Ryan Griffin, i watched him and saw him getting outrun all day by better midfielders. With current form i can't see him returning to 2013 averages.

Did not like what i saw at all, I can upgrade to anyone. Who would you pick?

Cyril is Delicious

I’m a fan of Jordan Lewis. Best midfielder in the best team. Proved me right today. I will come close to getting Lewis in this week.

Marco_Polo94

Agreed and he will get attention all season. Wines was an absolute beast. And at this stage will be trading that way #bigcall

SCaddict

Agree that Lewis is looking extremely attractive right now. He had a huge second half of the season last year so it's no real surprise to many and in fact I started with him too so no complaints here. ๐Ÿ™‚

However I still think it's at least one week premature to dump Griffen. If he bangs out a 130 next week you'll be feeling pretty sick in the guts especially if your replacement doesn't tonne up or worse gets injured.

So why not give it another week and if he performs poorly again THEN jump on whoever looks the best to you after a fortnight of footy? The prices don't change until round 3 anyway.

Cyril is Delicious

Agree with you mate, but Griffen just looked crap. Watched the hawthorn game and like the end of last year Lewis looked great, and I think he be a top 8 mid, where as I see Griffen struggling much like last year. I don’t think he will be a top 20 mid by end of year. Big call

Hazza_08

Ave 123 over last 15 games. That is my move for Griff.

shane

I stated with Lewis and Im spewing he pumped out a 150 in rnd 1. He was my serious POD midfield pick and now everyone will jump on him with corrective trades when they wouldn't normally get him.

TTJ

Hold for another week & if spits out another 70 move him on to Lewis

Shake n Bake

He will get tagged again this week by Viney & be lucky to get 80!

Tulip

Thanks for taking my question on the podcast, weird hearing my voice.

Rockliff out for Dangerfield, then I’ll upgrade Walters (I know, I know) to Wingard. I wanted Wingard, earlier but was worried about his injury.

What do you lads think Sidebottom’s injury does to Pendlebury’s scoring?

@HJ_Mitch

Din't know about Dangerfield for Rockliff, Tulip. Plenty of other high end midfielders to research.
Also, Winged for Walters is worth another look.
And I reckon Sidebottom's injury can only put more pressure on Pendles from the opposition.

Jez

Lewis is a massive POD for mine. He is in one of the best midfields in the comp and one of the most consistent performers in that team to boot. He will very rarely cop a tag (teams will go to players like Smith, Hill, Mitchell etc instead) and he will not miss many games this year. He's going to be staying in my team for the year at this point.

@HJ_Mitch

Agreed, Jez. Only thing against a Lewis stellar year is his age and susceptibility to injury. I honestly can't see him pumping out post 120 SC scores every game.

Cyril is Delicious

Age, his as old as Buddy, Roughead, and Griffen. So his not that old. Injury, played 24 games last year so I don’t think injury is an issue. Personally I see Lewis becoming one of the top midfielders, averaging 110-115+. I like him!

marty

I’m with you. I chose him for a reason and for rewarded. He also kicks goals and often goes third man up as well. Will be top8 mid this year imo

SCaddict

I'm a believer in him too Jez. He's on the verge of elite status if not already there. Reckon most of the highest ranks teams will have him in by the byes at the latest.

Hawks had plenty of injuries last season but if they keep a relatively fit list they will steamroll through the competition this season with 20 plus wins and Lewis should go huge more often than not.

Jez

To be honest I'm surprised theres not more Hawks players being talked about in terms of their supercoach relevance. Roughead is one of the most consistent key forwards in the game and has that extra dimension because he can pinch hit through the midfield. Gibson will now be freed up a bit with Frawley and Lake taking the big key forwards. Mitchell is underpriced although he will most likely be managed through the year, Hill looks like he will go to another level this season and even McEvoy/Ceglar are looming as a relevant ruck options.

Tofor

I reckon he's at elite status really. So consistent.

PreviouslyOnLost

Very pleased in my structure, but disappointed in my picks. Cheap defense and ruck seems the way to go. Dusty and Selwood were bound to have bad games, better to have them early.

Annoyed at myself for going against my own advice and selecting Griffin… but hey.

I'm giving Sailor Moon, Cripps and Henderson 1 more week and if they spud it up, they will be chopped.

matt

Hey guys, just some thoughts here
If you were looking fairly closely, youd notice an unusually high number of frees against for a lot of midfield players, particularly inside mids (newnes 5, priddis & fyfe 4, selwood, smitch, hodge & adams 3)
Perhaps the crackdown on holding the ball isnt helping these inside players, but hampering their scoring ability? Just something to think about and keep an eye on over the next few rounds

thunder buddies

Gee interesting stat…worth monitoring

SideBySidebottom

Ablett was pinged at least twice as well.

Ben

Thoughts on a potential rockliff to Treloar?, huge ceiling, pockets 120k and a to boot a decent POD.

Clunker

Griffin will be good for Treloar. He literally ran the entire game on his own. Eventually he will be sat on again.

Marco_Polo94

If the tag stays on griffen the other GWS mids will have field days

Bonters

I'd take Lewis or Wines ahead of Treloar.

Ben

Already got wines locked away in the midfield, so between lewis and treloar, beginning to lean towards lewis as the tag is always going to Mitchell first, feel like treloar is probably more likely to cop an eventual tag than lewis is. Thoughts?

Bonters

Yep agree, I'm just more confident in Lewis' scoring capabilities than Treloar's personally.

SCaddict

Has a huge upside but not sure he's a serious top 10 mid threat just yet. Reckon you are better off trading Rocky for another proven elite myself.

Ben

Yeah I think im leaning towards another proven, in that case would Lewis be the man or what even more proven options like a kennedy/beams be appropriate?

Marco_Polo94

I really really really really really want Tex Walker. He simply looked majestic and still has an easy run of fixtures to come. Forward line is Gray, Martin, Swan, Adams, Salem, Clark, so i don't think i will be trading any of those blokes out. Do i either wait another week and see if Spudnik Martin spuds his spud self up spud creek again and corrective trade then, or do i move Adams or Swan into the midfield for a cripps or something and put Walker into the forward line then. I know it looks like chasing points, but like Jock said I'm not sure who will stop him. Cheers community

Tulip

Got Tex as VC with loophole for next week. Nobody at Collingwood can stop him. Soft run continues beyond that.
Martin looked underdone, watched him plod about all game, worrying signs. Maybe wait 1 more week?

shezza

That’s what they said about Buddy v Coll last year and frost took him to the cleaners. A defender is only as good as his midfield. If they don’t press back, you are a gonna. Tippet had no chance on Tex with no pressure applied from their midfield.

@TheNoLanguage

Agreed. North were hopeless, I watched the game start to finish Cloke, Buddy and Tomahawk all would've gone 150+ with midfield pressure like that. Watch him but I wouldn't be burning a trade just yet.

SCaddict

No doubt Tex is underpriced but KPPs are notoriously erratic with their scoring. Have to be very careful when chasing previous week scores when it comes to power forwards as they can look unstoppable one week and impotent the next.

The Roos really didn't come to play either so I'm not falling over myself to get him in just yet but he obviously should be on everyone's watch list at the very least.

Rascal

Had Lewis from day dot of preseason and happy with my POD selection… alas he'll now go from 5% ownership to 90%+
Got talked into Dusty and Griffin when I should have stuck to my gut and kept Walker and Wines. Time for corrective trades!

SCaddict

A bit premature to be culling Griffen and Dusty for mine. Were you also talked into Swanny and TBC? Coaches need to be responsible for their own selections Rascal.

I'm more concerned with the Cripps and Salems of this world myself and they are notice this week in Addicts more so than Griffen or Dusty.

james

Had Kristian Jaksch for whatever reason and wondering who to trade him for? Awkward price, can't quite Hunt unless I burn two trades. Was considering downgrading Maric to TBC for some extra coin, but seems like a waste so early, just need someone to put in for Jaksch?

james

anyone?

@t_woof

Got all three of Saad, McIntosh and Oxley down back?

@HJ_Mitch

My opinion is that GAJ is sore physically and mentally. He'll take a few weeks (how many?) to get back into the swing of things.
Santa next week and then Geelong – bang! That will test his ability.
I reckon his value will drop significantly by then.
Leave him alone if you haven't got him and watch!

throttlefinger

Agree. If you have him, keep him and see how he goes vs. STK for the off chance he goes 110+. Won't happen vs Cats. Not a question if his price will drop but by how much it will drop.

Great podcasts gents. Those stories are pure gold, Crouching!

Watched my GWS play a feisty game with Jock's Saints. It was a close game and waited for Griff to insert himself. He never turned it up a notch, basically was used as a dupe so Shiels and Treloar could go free. Doubt that will change. Out for Wines.

Paul

I’ve got 99k in the bank and I have Andrew Swallow, should I:

1. Upgrade to a premium

2. Downgrade to a mid pricer Eg. Bont

3. Keep

@HJ_Mitch

Keep for at least 1 more week. Plying Lions next week.

Ben

Hold, north got belted all over the park and at 500k the value is there to be had, if he puts in a sub 90 next week you have the cash to upgrade him to a lewis/dangerfield/treloar option.

Paul

Already got lewis, jpk, beams and Fyfe as my premiums mids though. I was thinking downgrade swallow to Bont which gives me 177k to get Brodie smith the next week
(Scored 2304 this week)

Ben

You must be right up the top in the rankings with that score, i do like that option but want to make sure of smith's point scoring ability this season as he was in a team that annihilated their opposition on the weekend. But otherwise I think Bont is a very solid m5

Frank

why haven't you joined jocks supercoach group? ripper prizes up for grabs

SCaddict

Hard to take much out of the Roos Crows game I reckon. Players like Swallow and Wells are much better than they showed so give him another week at least.

Ben

Very very very concerned about Ibbotson, as I managed to select the right rookies i have the luxury to hold him till next week however if next week ibbotson delivers another sub 80 while one of geary/giggins delivers a 90+ i may pull the trigger. Good plan?

SCaddict

It wouldn't be a huge priority if I was in your shoes but yes if you feel just as strongly next week about this as you do right now then make the switcheroo if you have no other pressing matters. Both Cripps and Salem are on notice in my side.

However just bear in mind swapping one speculative midpricer who isn't injured for another is usually risky business. Sometimes it works out and about just as often it doesn't.

@TheNoLanguage

I have the same problem Ben. Going to look very closely at Geary this week and have Ibbotson in the gun for him, hard to assess after one week though

demon

Wells to rich?
don't usually like to trade early but rich looked was an absolute general in his new role on saturday
would be an ideal stepping stone to gaz
wells, along with north was woeful and I don't think he will have the consistency of rich

SCaddict

Not just yet mate. Roos were deplorable on the weekend. Rich could just as easy have 70 this weekend and Wells 105. So wait at least another week before making this call would be my advice fwiw.

Spifflicator

What SC said, they are likely to swap scores next week.

the dilemma

I went with Rocky over Ablett but after watching his dodgy shoulder, I can't bring myself to do the obvious and bring God Jnr. in for Rocky. Does the community think this is craziness? I feel my initial decision was vindicated and that Jnr. will miss early games and his price will drop, hence my reluctance to do this trade.

SCaddict

No way would I bring Gaz in after what I saw on the weekend. Bring in a form and 100% healthy gun like JPK, Sloanedog or Lewis.

There will be an opportunity to get Gaz in later when he's fitter probably for cheaper than he currently is.

Caz

119 playing sore, I would take that every day, scored more than fyfe pendles selwood etc.

Trab Pukcip

His score was inflated with 2 goals! Remember he was 69 at the 3/4 break! He also didn't make 1 tackle which is not a good sign! Fyfe had a blinder of a game, remember he was playing against an awesome port side – Gaz was struggling against a pedestrian Melbourne midfield!

todds7568

Rocky gone for a while now and Gaz gets a sub par 119, Gaz all the way

vinnymac

I'm keeping Dusty, I'm keeping Harry Taylor, and I'm keeping Parker. But if any of them spud up again my finger will be itching to hit that trade button!

Jacob

Parker didnt spud up at all. Would've scored 120+ if he wasnt knocked out. He's a gun!

SCaddict

I have Parker and no way am I trading him, even if he misses this week.

The lad is a superstar and had 35 touches from just 63% TOG when he got KO'd.

Tofor

Gotta keep Parker. Dusty and Griffin are definitely on notice.
Will hold them at least another week.

PDAP

I have $85 K in reserve. Who to trade in for Jaksch, who looked too skinny and slow, and is out for at least two weeks. Am I being too harsh seeing that Jaksch had a couple of broken ribs. Geary?

Canny the Manny

Geary is a risk, but probably your best option, providing you already have both McIntosh and Saad in your side.

@t_woof

Geary will fade out at the season progresses.

What does your back 8 currently look like?

BundyBear

What to do about Sidebottom. 6-8 weeks off. ๐Ÿ™

Canny the Manny

Sideways trade to Sloane would be my move, that or a downgrade to someone like Wines perhaps. If you can sacrifice that 120 point generation however, then a downgrade could come in handy (Vandenberg or Rich maybe?) to fix other matters somewhere else in your side.
I must say well done on choosing Sidebum though, he is an absolute jet and I was kicking myself halfway through that game for trading him out. You are extremely unfortunate he stuffed his thumb, I guess that's footy though!

SCaddict

You have plenty of options. Really like Sloandog, JPK or Lewis for similar coin for Sidebum or maybe make some cash going to Wines, Treloar or Danger if you could make good use of it.

SideBySidebottom

I've got Sidey and Rockliff.
I 'd already decided who I wanted to upgrade to before last week for a fully upgraded midfield so I'm trading to JPK and Sloane.
I'm not even considering this weeks scores as an influence on these imports.
I'll get Sidey back as soon as he plays. He won't lose fitness and explodes after a rest.
I'll get Rockliff back when it's upgrade time.
You've surely decided who you think will be the top eight midfielders before this round, so stick to your guns.
It's extremely frustrating trading out Sidey given the team name. I feel I'm breaking some kind of rule.

Canny the Manny

Bloody hell I needed that boys, beat myself up after a shit round and countless hours of preseason research, but I'll pull through!

What do we do about Ivan bloody Maric? Considering going down to Luenberger, then upgrading to a better premo later… Thoughts lads?

@t_woof

Hold tight for another week.

Who's your R2 Canny the Manny?

I'm sitting on Goldstein and Bellchambers. There's no way i'd be considering trading out Goldstein.

Thinking it you're the same but Maric and Bellchambers….then sit on them.

PDP

I have $85 K in reserve. Who to trade in for Jaksch, who looked too skinny and slow, and is out for at least two weeks. Am I being too harsh seeing that Jaksch had a couple of broken ribs. Geary?

Cicjose

should i trade Boomer to the Bont?

@t_woof

No way.

North will come out firing v Lions, similar to Round 2 last season. Pretty sure Boomer went HUGE that day.

Cicjose

but it seems that i have to do something about Sidebum,

do i get someone who went big over the weekend like Heppell, Ellis or Treloar, or Port's scoring trio of Ebert, Wines or Boak,

is there someone else that's better?

SCaddict

Yeah sidebum is a must trade. JPK, Sloane and Lewis all look great choices to me.

Treloar and Wines seem attractive too if you could really use the cash but not sure they are serious top 10 mid chances in 2015 just yet.

@t_woof

Agree with SCaddict – JPK, Sloane or Lewis very good options.

shezza

Look at Syd draw, 3 of their last 4 games are against inferior opposition. Can catch up points or help win leagues at the pointy end of the season

SideBySidebottom

Refer back to your research. If you predicted the top eight midfielders, pick one that you haven't got.

Totally ignore this weeks scores. They don't reflect an annual average.

demon

massive flat track bully capable of 150s against lesser sides at home, agree with t_woof he could go large this week

Cozza

I am someone who has GAJ in my team, but am definitely holding. The question we should be asking is 1/ is he going to be in my team at the end of the season and 2/ if he is, how much are 2-3 trades worth to me.

Assuming he does not do more damage to the shoulder and does not miss consistent games, GAJ will be in the top midfielders again at year end. I’m expecting his price to drop say $100-150k, but I brought him in as a keeper and I’m not prepared to burn 2-3 trades for that kind of money. We will have enough other worries with donuts and rookies during the year that we will need all the trades we can – I was one of those who ran out of trades before the end of last season which cost me a GF and a slide from the top 1000 to outside the top 3000 with the donuts I had.

I’m also not expecting 119 from him this week. He only had 60 odd fantasy points – was his cp and 2 goals that got him such a high score this week – we were very lucky to get away with that score from a well sub par game. Expecting him to average 100odd until his shoulder improves, and then hopefully back to Gaz of old ๐Ÿ™‚

If you think Gary will be there at the end of the year, I suggest we hold him. That said, if he is going to miss weeks, he has to go at his price. WTB a crystal ball

Jayden

I want to rage trade a few players Selwood Martin Cripps I’m looking at you boys but I know it’s best not to

Only trade I’m considering will be goldy to a cheaper ruck depending on how the ruck situation is

SCaddict

Goldy still tonned up (ok only just) but he was the only ruck to do so in a side that was completely dominated so I'd be in no hurry to trade him out.

If few rucks tonne up again next week then yes there will be major concern over the impact of the new scoring rules but I'm waiting another week at least, before contemplating panic trading there.

Jayden

Yeah as I said I’m only considering it will most likely just try to do a no trade week
Think I got my rookies good so far apart from ahmad saad and miller but they will be at F8 n M11

demon

Solution: sin bin them, trade them out at the start of the weekn then reserve the trade come friday and hope that they have learned their lesson!!!

todds7568

What do we think about Griffen? Will he be tagged all season long and leave Trelor to roam free and produce more scores like round 1, understand that round 1 was again Saints and not somebody like Hawks but got me a little worried about Griffen, will wait 1 or 2 more rounds i think

Mark

For those of you with Clancee Pearce – you need to read the article below:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dockers-cle

Tyler

Saving a trade until the end of the week to see if Jimmy Bartel is named or not, and I also have to trade out Sidebum. Not great having to trade out not 1 but 2 keepers in the first round. Not very happy at the moment but I still got 2127, so I guess that cancels out the bad news for now

Spifflicator

Agree Tyler, Even if Bartel misses a week, you hold him. 90 when his team got spanked is a great score, same with Goldy and Higgins for Nth.

SideBySidebottom

Seven News reported Bartel will be rested this week with a six day break but as INP and Spiff said, hold.