Mick’s Supercoach Team Reveal 2015
Community this has been the biggest preseason I have ever done. I was supposed to get this team reveal out on Sunday but for one reason or other I panicked, questioned all my selections, even the ones I was certain in and told Jock I needed more time.
I have spent the last three nights sleepless, have found myself zoning out at work thinking about Ablett’s shoulder, Swan’s NAB output, Naitanui’s sore back, has Newnes hoodwinked us all? So many question marks on so many of my selections. I’d hit the “Clear my Team” button and stare at a blank team for hours on end. I had gotten Supercoach block.
Had I burnt myself out? I did start my preseason way back in September when we started putting together inaugural Jock Reynolds supercoach magazine. It has felt like an eternity since then and all the time I have been focusing on Supercoach 2015. Last night I put out a tweet and the replies really hit home, and I really want to thank this great community for getting behind me, settling me back down and allowing me to finalise my 2015 Team. Massive thanks to you all.
Today I came home from work, reread the Jock Reynolds Magazine and gone through my Team building articles on the website. I have drawn from both, stuck to my structures, my lessons learnt and finalised my Supercoach Team.
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Mad Mick’s Mayhem 2015
My structure: Midpricer
Once again community I am going with a Midprice strategy in 2015. The reason for this is simple and comes down to Supercoach Behavioural Science. In order to be a Supercoach winner you must distance yourself from the group think and shoal behaviour. As you all know my good friend Peter Higginbotham has wrote a wonderful article in our magazine outlining the shoal and shark behaviour. This is my favourite article in the magazine and really reinforces my belief that I can distance myself from the group within the scope of a Midprice strategy.
If you look at all the winning teams from over the last 5 years, all of them have taken risks with their starting squads and found season long keepers in midprice players. Last year’s winner started with both Parker and Swallow and was quick to jump on Gray early. Having all three of these players separated Patrick Warman’s C-Money from the shoal and propelled him to Supercoach supremacy.
Last season I started with 11 midprice players but after reviewing my structures from last season I always was going to limit my exposure to 8 maximum in 2015. I have settled for 7.
My strategy:
Points on the board early. I am hoping this team will get me off to a flying start. The draw has been accessed and I am confident some of my more speculative picks will get off to a fast start. I know I am one of the best traders in the game so if I’m ranked in the top 500 before the byes I’ll back myself in to be in with a shout for the top prize for the run home over the last three rounds.
Selections of community debate:
Gary Ablett (MID $734,600K).
I have U-turned on this selection over the last two weeks more times than I care to mention. It was a lot. I spoke with conviction on the Podcast that I can’t go in with him but after rereading the magazine and my “Team building Articles” I have backed in my earlier preseason assessments and slotted him back in my team. I had made great plans to start with Mumford instead but then I thought to myself why don’t I start with both.
What I said in “Supercoach Team Building” article
“This Now I’ve got a slight problem here, as a couple of my lessons from last year clash on this selection. Lesson 4 states all my players must have completed a full preseason and lesson 8 states I must select Gary Ablett. As you may or may not know Gary has still yet to participate in full contact training which means he technically doesn’t meet lesson 4 criteria. However this injury has not affected Gary’s aerobic training and he is arguably fitter than ever. He has smashed his personal best in the 2km time trial and hasn’t missed a beat since he started running back in November. If the injury was foot related and affected his fitness base I’d be more concerned as this would lead to him struggling to run games out and the likelihood of more rest time forward. Rodney Eade has come out this week and said Ablett will once again play the majority of his time through the midfield. Nat Fyfe had a very similar preseason in 2014 only doing aerobic work due to his shoulder recovery and still managed to have a career best year.”
What I said in the Jock Reynolds Magazine
Tex Walker (MID/FWD $430,400K).
Never select Key Position forwards. Well no sort of. Those of you with a copy of the Jock Reynolds magazine will know the findings of the Buffalo Jump and know that staying away from KPF at the top of they’re price curve is key. However as I stated in the mag Tex goes into 2015 at the bottom of his curve.
This makes him a safe pick, even if on paper he looks like a risky section. After North Melbourne, Tex will face Collingwood, Melbourne and the Doggies in his next three games. I backing him to go really big (130+) in at least 2 of those games. He will always be a stepping stone player for me and I don’t expect to have him after the byes. Perfect money making downgrade in round 11.
Shaun Higgins (DEF/FWD $400K).
How many Supercoaches thought Robbie Gray was burn man destined never to fulfil his potential about this time last year? Not too many predicted the year he was about to have, that’s one thing for sure. I don’t think Higgins will average close to Robbie’s 111 from last year but he only needs to average 90 to be a success and a season long keeper. I’m backing he averages over 90 this year and plays every game. Massive call but these are the calls you have to make if you want to get near the big prize.
New club with top 4 credentials, new lease of life, full preseason, a pinch hitting role in the midfield – he has ticked all the boxes he has needed to, to get a position in my team.
Robbie Gray (MID/FWD $596,900K).
Speaking of Robbie Gray, I reread this today and I just have to lock him in and throw away the key.
I’ll be back Robbie in for a massive 2015 and backing myself in on this selection.
Shane Mumford (RUC $613,700K).
It’s all about the points early with this selection. Brave move here but Mumford won’t be in my team come round 6. I’m taking the points, flicking Bellchambers into the Ruck and using his massive cash value to make an early upgrade in both the forward line and the midfield. This selection will make or break my season but the more I analysis it the more comfortable I feel about it. Two words for you “SHARK MOVE”
Early draw of Saints, Melbourne and Sydney. Averaged 151 over the first 3 rounds against the same opponents in 2014. An average of 130 in 2015 would still be a massive win.
What’s nagging at me:
The fact I had a freak out when there was nothing to worry me. All the answers were right in front of me and all I needed to do was back myself in. Hope this has helped you settle your nerves and allow you to back yourself in. I know I have put in the work this preseason and I have given every selection a detailed analysis. If my team fails it won’t be due to lack of effort and that alone will put me to sleep tonight with ease.
Over to you community – I take the good the bad and the ugly, so don’t hold back
whats your strategy for starting Bellchambers at F4? What are you hoping to do with him?
Solid Mick. Should go a shite load better than 2014.
Well Mick,
Just when I thought you had truly lost it in the Podcast! You go and do this!
You are not doing our country any favours regarding meekness me ol' China LOL!
Hi Mick, Love the team – I believer mid pricers is the way in the backline this year.
My only concern is your 'shark move' – seems odd to me. I reckon Mumford is sure to depreciate? So you are planning to use the 'massive cash value' upgrade your forwards and mids in round 6. But by doing that dont you potentially have more money to use now… are you expecting his price to go even higher? Also does this mean you think TBC is a keeper? or would you be planning to upgrade him too at some point?
by trading mumford to tbc upon the price rise he should gain 300k plus TBC's value increase. so maybe 350k.. thats a great downtrade move to get in form premo mids or fwds man..
No see that’s not right. Bellchambers will be worth far more than 300k by round 5 or 6, his price will go up. And mumfords will drop. So you’ve effectively lost 100 or so thousand bucks ?
Good question david – perhaps it is easier to understand if you see my Ruck line as just Naitanui and Belchambers and focus on just F4. I currently can't justify spending the money on Bartel, Goddard, Martin or Delidio as I can't predict with any conviction that all of these will start the year well. So instead I am starting Mumford as my F4 (belchambers swing). I am confident that he will outscore all those other forwards over the first 5 rounds and go up to $650k. When I trade him out I will bring in a forward who hasn't started so well for potenially 500k netting me $150k. I will then use this to make an upgrade on a midfield rookie in the same round or possibly round 7.
Will get a jump on all those without and trade out when everone else is looking at ways to get him in
You got it spot on Tom. So your running the same strategy I take it. Let's hope it pays off for us.
If Mumford is averaging 120 over 6 rounds like you hope, and is still fit and going well, good luck trading him out to rely on Bellchambers output.
Love the article mick! just need an advice on who to pick as D4
KK, langdon or Rampe
Of those three I'd be going with KKolod.
Thoughts please
DEF: Shaw, Newnes, Higgins, Lumumba, Ibbo, Goodes (Saad, McIntosh)
MID: Gazza, Fyfe, Jobe, Griff, Swallow, Rich, Sheed, Cripps (Ellis-Yolmen, Heeney, Miller)
RUC: Goldstein, Bellchambers (Cox)
FWD: Gray, Dusty, Swan, Salem, Clark, Lambert (Lonie, Hogan)
$6,200 in the bank
Who should I pick out of Newnes, KKolod or Higgins? I'm leaning towards KKolod to save a bit of coin.
Higgins will move forward as well and kick goals meaning he will score well, everybody knows Higgins potential, don't know what else he could have done this preseason to prove he isn't ready
newnes
Bartel or goddard?
wallis or rich?
gibson or hibbered?
thoughts fellas?
bartel
rich
gibson
bartel (martin), wells
Goddard
Rich – but neither
Hibberd
Not on the Gibson wagon – talk is that Frawley & Lake will free up Gibson to roam around. Lake will be managed similar to last season (less the choking incident), and play a maximum of 15 games, maybe only 12 games, and some will be played in the forward line.
Gibson will play his normal role for most of the season, and particularly in the games that matter (against other top 8 type teams), as he is the best 3rd man up defender in the league.
bartel, rich, hibberd.
It's a good team Mick. I see the logic in starting Mumford and admit it is very tempting but i feel people are chasing last seasons points a bit. The other thing is how much do you value a trade? Because if you already know you're trading him out at Round 6, then I'd say a trade made this early put potentially be worth 5-10 points per week (perhaps Higgos the man to work that one out) so you'd probably have to take that off the 130 you think he will average.
Like I said it's tempting, I've had him in there myself at times, but I think I will stick with the more trust worthy Goldilock. The Goldchambers has a good feel to it this year.
I won't entertain Mummy in my side either but I definitely can appreciate the temptation given his full preseason and his ruck opponents over the first month of footy.
Just no way can I see him playing more than 18 games so can't justify a $600K plus outlay under such circumstances myself as trades are too precious to burn them stuffing around with your rucks midseason.
Definitely best team reveal out of all and best team for me. Love your articles and your always trustworthy , and thoughts on clancee Pearce.
Tyler, Clancee Pearce will have tagging duties this year along with De Boer.
Too risky for mine.
Guys final question till I lock the key :
Ablett, Mumford, Swan, Higins OR Lumumba (please pick one if you pick this option)
OR
Beams, Goldy, Bartel, Murphy
First with Higgins
Option 2
Lol damn already 1-1 can a few of you guys please throw your votes in I'm really torn on this one.
Option 2
Cheers Seb.
Any others? Starting to feel I've gone the right way with Option 2 to lock in!
1 with Higgins
Thanks mate! Just as you think it's going to end up a heavy 2 someone brings it back!
Any other votes fellas?
Decent team !
Whats the go with Vandenberg in your starting mids Mick didnt think he was elevated off the dees rookie list, am i missing something?
He's obviously counting on this happening in the next 24 hours or presumably he will tweak him out the line-up in favour of a named rookie if that's not the case.
yes, his been elevated I believe.
Absolutely love this team Mick! Wouldnt be suprised if you went all the way and won the 50K.
Love your thinking on the Mumford/Bellchamber trades but not sure on Naitnui
Whats your reasoning for starting Nic Nat?
Good luck for the season mate
what do you think about gibson as a pod to shaw? plenty of scoring potential now he wont be second key back
Not sure Gibson is a POD. I've seen him in most teams. Granted probably not as many teams as Shaw but still a lot.
Gibson will play his normal role. He is the best 3rd up defender in the league, the Hawks know it, and will continue to use him in this role when playing good opposition.
Lake will be managed again, like last year 12-15 games plus finals, and will play forward at times. Frawley releases the reliance on Lake in defence, not the reliance on Gibson's role.
will heppell or jobe watson get the tag for essendon?
Mostly Heppell I feel James but it will be a bit of both depending on whether the tagger is big bodied and strong or more lean but a better runner.
Thoughts on j kelly in def ??? (Geelong)
A decent selection for mine. Should at least hold his price well.
Really the only negative is his age and what that means in terms of both games played and role. If he sees plenty of midfield time and stays healthy he has a chance to finish a top 8 defender in 2015.
Mad team there Irish, a couple of risks there but if you have a large enough sack, go for it,,, no shoal for you, free willie,,,,,
The suspense was killing the community but the wait was worth it as you're putting something out there on the park that's sure to differentiate you from the pack for better or worse.
The Gaz/Rocky starting tandem is huge so good to see one of the inner sanctum is prepared to put their plums fully on the line with this. It both of them explode for 150 plus this weekend many of us are going to be feeling pretty silly and we will likely be playing catch up to you all season.
I would love to have the plums to go Gaz & Rocky. I did up until end of NAB.
Beams forced his way in over Rocky due to the fear of Rocky moving up and Gaz concern is obvious.
Can see it biting us big lol!
Do you think it’s a risk to have two rucks with same bye round?
Not particularly as it's the top 18 scores anywhere on the field that count during the byes. Besides Mick is planning on cutting and running on Mummy well before the byes anyway. 🙂
Nah, only need 18 on field, doesn’t matter what positions
Doesnt matter.
Just need 18+ scoring players for each of the bye rounds, doesnt matter which positions they fill, so long as you can put all 18 on the ground.
That’s right! Forgot about that
Cheers guys
Need some thaughts or advice on my defense
Shaw. Johnson. Kolo
Ibbo. Saad. Mcintosh
Edwards. Hamling
Solid defence. Should generate some cash, although Im not sold on Ibbo.
Would you say that JJ Keneddy has just as much reason to be picked than Taylor Walker considering the early VERY easy draw that West Coast are facing. The guy can kick up to 11 goals against a weak team and potentially could reach the peak of his bubble after 4-5 rounds.
Interested on your thoughts?
Yes, good point.
JJK also looked very good in the 3rd NAB match, moving well.
39k left would love some opinions on my team…
Back: shaw, newnes, Lumumba
goodes, oxley, mcintosh (hamling, saad)
Mid: ablett, fyfe, parker
wines, stevens, rich
newton, cripps (Anderson, heeney, CEY)
Ruck: goldstien, maric (read)
Fwd: gray, martin, bennell
TBC, salem, clark (Hogan, lambert)
Cheers schmit
2 def rookies is a risk. having both Steven and Rich in your mids is unusual. normally settle for one.
perhaps consider trading one of these down to a rook and trading up one of your def rooks to a mid-pricer
thanks mate maybe like this?..
downgrade steven to cockatoo….
upgrade hamling to geary…..
wines to sloane?
Dammit, here I am thinking Im the only one starting with Tex. Sure his percentage will rise somewhat now 😉
I think I’m the only one with Cloke. Starting to have a good look at Tex
I don't have big enough plums to have Cloke in my team.
Pendles + Lumumba
vs
Gibson + Danger
I'd personally go Gibson + Danger. Though I'm not an expert (this is my 4th year now and only my 2nd really into it year)
Nice Mick, genius written all over this team. Love the tex selection, I have gone Taylor Adams as my smokey up forward. Will take some serious plums to trade out mumford at that stage if he is averaging 130+ tho!
Thoughts REALLY appreciated!
DEF: Gibson, Taylor, Lumumba, McDonald, Henderson, McIntosh (Hamling, Saad)
MID: Fyfe, Boak, Cotchin, Griffin, Wines, Steven, Cripps, Ellis-Yolmen (Anderson, Heeney, Miller)
RUCK: Goldstein, NicNat (Read)
FWD: Gray, Martin, Adams, Bellchambers, Salem, Clark (Lambert, Hogan)
Not sure about Gibson and Wines. Are there better options?
Thanks!
Shaw over Gibson in my books.
Love the Wines choice. Kids a gun and only going to explode.
Question who is the best defender sub 487k?
Kelly
Still reckon Newnes represents best overall value for money but I see Kelly and Hurn as attractive alternatives too.
I have Newnes.
Murphy is who I have but would Kelly or Johnson or Taylor or Hibberd be a far better choice?
I had Bob Murphy for much of last season and he didn't exactly rock my world and at times definitely disappointed. Still he wasn't a horrible pick and perhaps his game will jump another gear as captain this season.
All those other guys have their question marks too which is what makes defence such a headache this season but I'd give the nod slightly to Kelly out of that bunch if I had to go with one.
Thanks for your imput mate. What do you expect out of Murphy and Kelly per game?
At a guess perhaps 85-90 for Bob and 90-95 for Jimbo so not much in it when you get right down to it.
Thanks mate. Might have to look at Kelly again.
Murphy has the potential to go bigger more though wouldn't you agree? Especially now with the C?
Your guess is as good as mine but fancy Bob Murphy to have a great season.
Thanks mate. Any others with a comment/opinion?
Love the team Mick.
Love this site.
Thoughts on my team as it stands?
Shaw, Newnes, Lumumbra, Goodes, N Brown, Hamling (McIntosh, Saad)
Fyfe, Kennedy, Lewis, Parker, Griffin, Rich, Cripps, Ellis Yolmen (Sheed, Heeney, Miller)
Jacobs Goldstein (Read)
Gray, Martin, Swan, Bellchambers, Salem, Clark (Hogan, Lambert)
Cheers 🙂
Sheed on the bench is a waste imo. Other than that nothing too worrying, maybe upgrade a defensive rookie to a midpricer. Decent side.
Chris judd or lachie Neal!
I have asked this question before and it is now not letting me sleep. Who do I take??
Short-term Judd. Long-term Neale. How long do you plan on keeping them?
agree with Nash
*Phil
Can someone please help me with some improvements on my team?
DEFS: H shaw, gibson, newnes, lumbumba, goodes, saad (mcintosh, goddard)
MIDS: Fyfe, parker, heppell, griffen, s mitchell, m wallis, cripps, CEY (heeney, anderson, t miller)
RCKS: Goldstein, bellchambers (obrien)
FWDS: Gray, martin, swan, salem, hogan, clarke ( lonie lambert)
I have 400k in the bank
and i dont know who to upgrade! thanks in advance community.
Chuck Hepp for G A J
why is that?
Ibbo, Geary or KK
AND
Mumford + Nic Nat or Goldstein + Maric
I've been rotating all week, cannot decide.
Thumper
without a doubt march goldy and to get money you should be thinking about getting goodes if you already have him stick with kk
Cheers mate, already have Goodes btw.
Not Geary. Probably Ibbo. And Maric and Goldstein.
parker or wines when talking about consistency? (Leaning towards parker)
Leaning the right way.
if you can afford paler and don't have these player i would get them if i were you lewis boak dangerfeild griffin
instead of parker and wines
Parker
Parker
I personally have gone Goldy & Maric.
I just can't take Nic Nat on what he put out. If he turns it around and rips it apart then I will seriously consider a trade if Goldy/Maric under deliver.
Yeah, not big on Nic Nat either mate.
Geary or Ibbo?
And why?
ibbo. Has done it before. Looks fit. Geary is unproven. If Ibbo gets to an average of 90 you will be laughing.
Talking on-field rookies.
Do we think Hogan will out-score Lambert?
past wisdom says no but Hogan is special and should have good JS. Lambert might get the vest early but could also do a miles…. I am going Hogan first week but it's a toss up.
by a country mile
Any ideas or comments here would be much appreciated guys:
DEF: Simpson, Shaw, Gibson, Newnes, Ibbotson, Saad (McIntosh, Hamling)
MID: Ablett, Pendles, Danger, Wines, Griffen, Cripps, Anderson, CEY (Heeney, Miller, Lambert)
RUC: Goldstein, NicNat (Read)
FWD: Gray, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Lamb)
Cheers!
Absolute rock solid team with no obvious weaknesses. Will need to get one more super premo in before the bye cos Ablett and Pendles share the r12 bye
good looking team, maybe a little light M3-5 , although they all gave the potential to go big this year I think it's a bit risky going all 3 . You could look at ibbo ton down to Goodes to free up a little cash, but it comes down to your gut
Wondering why no one has hodge
A lock for DT, but not a huge SC scorer.
Because Hawthorn will manage his workload, particularly in the middle of the season. The Hawks are great at managing their stars, and they have the depth to do it without impacting the team performance.
Really getting into the nitty gritty… need advice
Goldy and swan – boring but will play most games. Worried about swan going backwards and how new rule will effect goldy
or
Maric and bennell – bit of a POD. Maric can be a monster when fit and will play in a up coming side. Harley is in the age bracket to take the next step and GC should play finals. Love the idea of the ablett/bennell double….
really 50/50 here. First gives me a base, second could win the 50k
definitely the second for me
Maric second half was good. See his price going up. Goldy price likely to fall early.
Bennell looks a real good selection for me. Didn't have the best preparation last season, but still scored well. Tore it up in the pre-season, and Rocket has already said that he will get more midfield minutes.
wallis rich wells pick two
rampe the gift thumper savage higgins pick two
wallis rich
rampe KK
thats what I'm currently running
Beautiful team micko!!
Also for those wanting a league
881682
5 spots left, preferably top 5000 players because it’s fairly serious
im almost happy!!
$164,000 left over
def – C. Enright.. J. Newnes.. B. Smith.. G. Ibbotson.. A. Saad..
K. Mcintosh.. (J. Hamling.. H. Goddard..)
Mid – G. Ablett.. N. Fyfe.. D. Beams.. R. Griffen.. O. Wines.. N. Van berlo..
B. Newton.. I. Heeny.. (C. Ellis Yolmen.. K. Lambert.. T. Miller..)
Ruck – B. Mcevoy.. S. Lycett.. (R O'Brien..)
Fwd – D. Martin.. D. Swan.. T. Mitchell.. R. Gray.. J. Hogan.. M. Clark.. (T. Lamb.. C. Salem..)
im thinking about.. sloan in for griffen.. upgrade lycett in ruck to ??.. and unsure on a rookie ruck
thanks heaps for feedback
trade vanberlo to cripps
just did 🙂 thanks heaps
vanderberg ? he hasn't been elavated to rookie list why start him ?
loop hole im guessing
Clem Smith starting for Carlton? Anyone else looking at him now? Just traded him in for Kraka!
Yes didn't exactly set the preseason world on fire but at least it's one warm body named along with McIntosh for the Tiges and also listed on the field too which is encouraging.
No Lambert is a disappointment though.
With that said where would you look?
Lamb, Lonie, Krakoeur, Tarrant and perhaps others we haven't even expected are all still in play. We'll know a lot tomorrow about an hour out from the Tiges Blues bounce down once the other teams are announced so there will be some mad scrambling then.
I will see you here tomorrow then within the hour ;P
Lonie is still needing an upgrade as well. There are quite a few on the watch list still
A playing rookie, named on the field. Straight to the bench with the E.
Bugger Lambert named as an emergency only so let the team rejigging begin!
I've been pretty keen on Tarrant which most coaches have ignored to this point (in fact didn't even rate a mention on Jock's cheat sheet) but perhaps he will now come into calculations if named in the Kangas 25 tomorrow which I reckon is reasonably likely.
Tarrant will play defence, and in Scotties best 22. As long as his body holds out. Rookie priced and will score 60+ average. Will take that any day for a forward/defence rookie.
Agreed Kev. Still needs to get named first as the Roos depth is pretty good now but the Grima and Hansen injuries definitely help his case heaps.
I suggested him as an option in one of my videos, but you're right haven't heard a thing about him
So because he is an emergency only we shouldn't still pick him? surely he will get game time at some point during the season
That's when you pick him, hopefully as one rookie has fattened, downgrade to lambert coming in. You want a full team playing from round 1 for the most cash generation.
You just want to start generating cash as soon as possible in the race to get to full premo as fast as you can, especially if you are playing for rank which let's face it most of us are at round 1.
Each coach will have to make their own judgments there but I definitely will be looking to start with 29 round 1 active players if possible, in fact 30, if miraculously a ruck rookie option is named.
Cheers lads. I knew the answer i suppose i was just hoping for someone to say KEEP HIM aha, only had $800 in the kitty left
Ha ha don't worry this stuffs me up too. Who knows we may get some better news with teams selections tomorrow night.
I'm sure Lambert will get a place in our teams at some point during the season it just won't likely be round 1 in Addicts.
Who would you go for instead? I have CEY, Heeney, Miller already in rookie mids?
Lambert down back.
Mick ya Mad man, loving the team.
What are your thoughts on Josh Kennedy over Tex Walker. Eagles first 5 games are great, including the dogs and the giants, who JK dominates. I'm thinking of using him as an early stepping stone to gray. Thoughts?
Is Taylor Hunt a good mid priced pick?
now that he is at the tigers he may play a bigger role
I haven't seen anyone talk about him at all
Have had him on my radar all pre-season, just got edged out by the rebirth of Goodes. Those 2 will probably score similarly, he could be an interesting POD
Likely to be a run with player with no Matt Thomas and Dan Jackson retiring. No for mine
thoughts on getting Lycett in the forward line
I plan to go TBC there instead.
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With Lambert selected as an emergency do we still pick him?
Do we use up a trade to get him in when he plays or do we hold onto him now to save burning a trade?
Nah I don't believe you can start with him over other forward rookies who do play round 1. I guess there is always a chance of a late withdrawal tomorrow night.
More likely instead he will become a potential downgrade target at some point during the season, ideally about rounds 6 or 7 when we start slaughtering our first wave of cash cows. 🙂
Is emg but might get a gig should Newman come out. Saying that if he does get a call up will definitely get the vest!
I'm aiming to have 29 starters . Missed out the last couple seasons by not being able to log in and make these corrective trades pre game, and it costs trades post R1 to get the right rookies in.
I can see the theory in the ruck cover/trade strategy, I just think we don't have the rucks available to make it work or make it worthwhile. What happens if in R2 all 3 of your rucks go down, which I think is quite possible considering their histories. I think cover only works if you have a proven season long player, otherwise your risky pick in the ruck is jepordised even further by having a risky cover sitting in the forwards. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I know my luck if that was my team, I'd have 2 trades within the first three rounds to cover my fallen ruckmen, or be risking donuts in the ruck or vest risk rookies playing on field in the forward.
The main idea around having Lycett or TBC in your forward line is just to temporarily cover when your R1 or R2 misses one or two games such as a suspension to avoid that dreaded donut.
Obviously with a longer term issue such as a serious injury you are probably going to want to trade away your injured R1 or R2 for good..
As you say we are not blessed with the Cox DPP of seasons past so it will be a strategy some coaches take up and others decline. Only in hindsight will we know which is the more successful but two great fantasy minds in Mick and Jock are both running with this.
Can you imagine what would take place if Nic Nat and TBC were both injured on the same weekend?
Yeah, I understand the thought behind it, my point is tho, tBC is more likely to go down than the rucks he's covering, and if he does last longer and is needed to swing into the ruck, you're running another rookie on field in the forward. Ive played with the idea, but I guess I just don't have the testicular fortitude to risk it. 2 x durable rucks for me, if one goes down , trade sideways .
what happens then if they are only out for 2 to 3 weeks still going to sideways trade?
2-3 for any premium is a sideways for me, unless there are rookies firing to offer cover. Original plan has been to bring Ryder into the forward as the first rookies fatten up as I think his price will drop. I just don't trust TBC and lycett is too awkedly priced to start for cover . Although if Ryder drops too much and is stinking it up, that's that plan blown too.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see there. Plenty of folk didn't think Sandi would play 20 plus games last season either.
I just reckon you need to have some plan in place in case one of your rucks misses a week, rather than cop an obligatory donut or burn a precious trade, especially if you are playing for rank. Perhaps not such a big deal if you're just a league guy or gal.
No one is saying that all coaches should do this or that you would be foolish if you don't but it's still a valid option for mine even with a lack of awesome DPP options.
Please just give us one rookie ruck to start Round 1. I think they could be a little more generous with their DPP on big guys in the forwards who pinch hit .
No argument there Dognino. Should be way more forward/ruck DPPs than there are given how many ruckmen split their time up forward.
Apart from last year I can't remember TBC being injured all that often. I'm hearing a lot about how he's never played more than 18 games in a season, or he's averaged 10 games per year…..But you've got to remember he was third option behind David Hille and Paddy Ryder for a long time.
I understand why people aren't picking him, after all he is a mid pricer who we haven't seen play in the NAB, but I don't think he should be ignored if you're worried about durability.
who is more likely to play Lonie or Daniel?
Lonie.daniel may play – but a very likely vest candidate
is clem smith a good option?
Only if other options like Vandenberg, Kraqouer (both require elevation), Miller, Anderson etc dry up.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Parker, Griffin, Lewis, Danger, Wines
Pick One
Parker
Parker
What yas think of my team
Def: hodge Hibberd Lumumba sheppard geary Mcintosh (Goddard saad)
Mids: Gaz Heppell danger griffen s.selwood rich vanberlo Cripps (Heeney vandenberg Ellis-yolmen)
Rucks: leuey Bellchambers (durdin)
Fwds: Goddard Martin swan Mitchell Salem Clark (Daniel lamb)
220,500 remaining
That's a very POD team . I think you will have a lot of corrective trades in the first 6 weeks
do we stick with Lambert? could be a late inclusion with Newman likely to be withdrawn.
Wouldn't count on it.
His JS seems pretty iffy by this omission and could be an ideal vest candidate if not this week, perhaps next week, so no doubting his fantasy stocks took a huge hit tonight at least as far as a starting selection.
Think that we need to look for better options now and hopefully tomorrow night's teams uncover a few.
Have I gone mad picking Cunnington and rich in the guts? It's either that or a premo and a rookie combo. Thoughts on the better combo of the two? Join my league also community 191762
My structure is pure guns and rookies, so premo/rookie over Cunnington and Rich. Thanks for the invite Stevie, I'm in.
Welcome aboard Kev! I always go gun rookie in the mids but this year with the lack of wines/o'meara types im trying to think outside the box. Just can't justify having old men like griffin, Judd, swallow etc in there either
I've gone a 4-4-2-4 structure Stevie. Was put onto this structure from one of Sarah's comments. Felt right when I traded out a mid and put the extra forward in. Just had to find one mid-priced breakout defender to enable 14 keepers first up. Now just hoping for 16 playing rookies. That doesn't sound good when you actually say it, does it?
Gibo or Simpson
Gibbo may have a higher ceiling, but may be more inconsistent. Might rest a week or two here and there as well. Simpson is consistent and generally reliable. Only knock on him is that teams started to look at curbing his influence late last year and became a bit more successful. if that continues, he could be in a for a tumble. I had him from the start last year, but for that reason, I am not saddling up again
Love the team Mick! Out of all the guys from the website I think I relate to you the most in how we think. Best of luck for 2015, although it doesn't look like you will need it by the look of your starting team! Would like to hear what def mid pricers you like for less than 380k.
Thumper is looking good
Yeah liking him, Henderson and Ibbo.
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A league for fellow readers
I’m not fat, nor am I a chick, but that’s an offensive and ignorant name. I’m sure many “fellow readers” are girls, and some of them may even be carrying a few pounds, but none of us are perfect are we. Or are we all perfect, in our own little ways. Possibly too existential for you that question. What’s your other league called, “NoPoofters”? Enlighten up!
Paddy, that league name is a bit harsh if I'm honest
Hey Mick,
just wanted to say thank you for your pre season articles and you team reveal.
Look forward to more advice throughout the season and all the best for a crack at the 50k mate.
CJay.
Agree whole heartedly with CJay. Thanks Mick and all the flapping tarp crew. Let the games begin.
Yep with both of you there guys. Best site on the net for SC for sure!
Yep I think in the haste to pick our own best side we are quick to overlook the effort of the J.R. team asking questions like sloane or danger, parker or JPK, odds or evens etc. What about the massive pre season all the J.R. team have put in with all the articles, the effort that went into the magazine and all the podcasts. Serious thanks to all the team. Now its down to us to take all the advice and put our own spin on it. Best of season to all for 2005.
Yep I think in the haste to pick our own best side we are quick to overlook the effort of the J.R. team asking questions like sloane or danger, parker or JPK, odds or evens etc. What about the massive pre season all the J.R. team have put in with all the articles, the effort that went into the magazine and all the podcasts. Serious thanks to all the team. Now its down to us to take all the advice and put our own spin on it. Best of season to all for 2015
lol Just correcting 2015 as I was in Wayno' delorean 2005 but you get the idea
neale or judd or mitchell
or should i upgrade to griffen
Griff if you can afford. After that Judd/Neale/Smitch
Love the structure Mick. Agree with 1 Def, 3 mid, and 2 fwd rooks. I have read a lot of stuff on this site about the plentiful nature of fwd rooks, but the longer the pre-season has gone on, the less convinced I am. I really think 2 is correct.
Anderson has less js IMO (competing with a few for that spot). You could save the cash with a Lonie, or have good js with Tarrant.
matt suckling or taylor
Hi Corey, check your research and then go with your gut feel.
I see many teams with B Goodes as D5. I understand the temptation, but I am just not convinced – his 2014 form was terrible, got delisted and really only has a run because of Libba's LTI. Are we all over-seduced by his NAB form? Is it better to save some money on another line and beef it up?
For example, in Mick's team, he has Rocky at F2. If you were to downgrade this to a Sloane/Beams range, then frees up the cash to upgrade D5 to a Geary?
He can certainly play, look at his 2013 stats. Never really got going in 2014 due to niggles/out of favour. His delisting was because of AFL draft requirements, not because they didn't want him
No.
I'm very confident he will out score Geary for the year.
You must understand not only Goodes, but Higgins, Griffen and Cooney all had an issue with the coach last year. It seems he had something against the older players. There's a new coach there now and since Bevo has taken over he has not only given Goodes plenty of minutes but also re-promoted him onto the senior list (albeit temporarily)
So my take is clearly the new coach likes him.
Who's a 300-400k midfielder that you can see doing well?
I think rich will be serviceable . Too risky for my liking when you can go guns n rookies. Cripps and CEY should do just as well and 150-200k cheaper
Wallis, Wells and Rich seem the picks
wallis POI/POD option
Wells is the pick of the bunch in that price bracket for me. Had averaged high 90s in the previous 3 years prior to an injury ravaged 2014 and he seems poised for a big 2015 with a good preseason.
Thoughts on my team community? any advice would be great!
Backline: Shaw, Gibson, Taylor, Newnes, Goodes, Saad (Mcintonsh, Goddard)
Middle: Fyfe, Selwood, Beams, Parker, Griffin, Cripps, Cockatoo, Ellis-Yolmen (Heeney, Freeman, Miller)
Rucks: Mummy, Maric (Nakervis)
Forwards: Gray, Dusty, Swan, Salem, Clark, Hogan (Lonnie, Lambert)
30k left
Rock solid – just not sure about starting with Cockatoo. reckon he's a vest risk.
Goddard seems out of favour now – consider Hamling or Oxley instead.
Lambert is now a question (dammittt)
Anyone know who West Coast played in their second NAB game? I think off memory Carlton was 1st and Freo 3rd anyone know the other team they played?
http://www.afl.com.au/fixture/nab-challenge
Port
Thanks guys just trying to work out a Lambert replacement and that was the week Lamb went bang. I think Port had a few out though if I'm not mistaken.
Hi guys, just wanted to know what you would choose:
Judd and Neale
OR
Beams/Sloane/Kennedy/Priddis/Ward/Lewis/Parker and Hallahan
Cheers
Option 2 with Ward/Lewis/Parker in order of preference.
Sorry to post off topic, but any leagues out there needing a spot filled?
ok.. I've had enough. need help.. just made my 674th change to my team.
def shaw newnes lumamba goodes mcintosh saad
mid ablett pendles Fyfe lewis parker cripps heeney ellis-y
ruck mumford bellchambers
forwards gray dusty swan bartel clark salem
now i know big tommy b is a concern but will look to upgrade later on.. and defence is light
need help guys, please. any suggestions would be great. thanks
Don't doubt yourself – just go with your gut feel Matty… your team is pretty much the same as mine and looks pretty good to me.
maybe just switch one of your Forward premos for a rookie and then swith one of your DEF rooks with a premo. Defender rookies aren't looking toogood this year
relax mate, you must be confident with your Guns, just have a cool drink or a dozen and wait for the teams to come out and make any rookie changes as required – good luck
haha.. fair call.. cheers
and 60k still i bank
Goodes seems to be a popular D5 selection, but not sure about having him at D4. I would suggest punting one of your forwards and upgrading def rookie. Easier to find an F6 than a D5
Boak or danger?
Boak for me. Dangers contract talks have put me off
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What's the situation on Clem Smith?
I seem him named at $117 grand
better options …
Samuel is probably right HOPEFULLY there will be better options.
Still he wasn't on anyone's radar until 2 hours ago so should definitely at least be considered now especially if playing midfield rookies are thin on the ground tomorrow.
Hey guys, would love some feedback on my team.
Shaw,Hibberd,newnes,ibbotson,jaksch,saad(oxley,Macintosh)
Rockliff,pendles,fyfe,Sloane,Gibbs,rich,Newton,cripps(heeney,yoemen,miller)
Jacobs,goldstein(read)
Martin,Walters,Bellchambers,Salem,Clarke,hogan(Daniel,lamb)
20k in the bank
Sloane the best option at that price?
Thanks
Would consider spending a bit less in your mids and rucks and using the cash to beef up your forwards a bit
If you’re prepared to run TBC at F3 the you might want to consider running him at R2. Jacobs could then become Gray who is more likely to hold his value IMO. Otherwise a solid team. I like the Gibbs and Walters selections for PODs.
Thanks, that's an interesting point that I hadn't thought ff, but a good idea
Wallis and Adams, or Parker and rookie?
Would say Parker and Rookie is safest option there (rookie dependant)
Would love some thoughts on my team I have changed my team but I have decided this is what I am going with would really like to hear your thoughts.
DEF Shaw, Newnes, Murphy, Goodes, Saad, Mckintosh
MID Ablett, Fyfe, Beams, Pendles, Griffen, D Rich, Cripps, Heeney (Yoleman, Lambert, Vandeberg)
Rucks: Goldstein Maric (Read)
FWD: Gray, Swan, Tex Walker, Bellchambers, Salem, Mitch Clark, (Lamb, Hogan)
Everyone is picking Griffen and so have I.
This makes me wonder… is he a keeper or a cash cow?
a chance at either, if he's avg under 100 a stepping stone player to an ultra premo. Over 100 he will be M8 and the last trade to upgrade to an ultra. Hitting 110+ and he's probly in the team for good
Didn't particularly want griffen, however i feel like i have to pick him due to his popularity. If he goes bang and i didn't have him i'd be well behind the pack vs if i pick him and he goes shit he spuds it up for everyone else anyway. Potential keeper tho to answer your question, unless maybe you didn't have ablett and were using him to get to gaz
Put it this way if he's your biggest problem at M8 you've got one helluva side!
Great team Mick, one of the better team reveals ive seen,
Really like that midfield, ablett rocky and fyfe, there is a 140+ between one of them each week, and tex, can go huge on his day, looks pretty solid all round mate.