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Jock’s Supercoach Team Reveal 2015

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AFL Supercoach Legend Jock ReynoldsLadies and gentleman – I present to you JR Brumby FC 2015.

This has been as difficult a preseason as I can remember in my 37 years in fantasy footy. A lot of this comes down to the fact that we’ve got stuff all available down back – and the fact that we only have one big bloke sitting on the pine in the ruck. I want to commend all of you for the manner in which you’ve gone about things during a stressful time. I’m one hell of a proud leader as I sit here this evening.

This is my team as it stands this evening. As is the case with all of us – a bit depends on what’s handed down to the Essendon Football club. A lot still needs to play out re: rookie elevation. And there will be a few curve balls with team selection.

Having said that community – I’m ready to field my most aggressive and attacking Supercoach team this decade.

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JR Brumby FC 2015

Wayno's Supercoach War Pigs

My structure: A departure from the Guns and Rookies strategy

Many will know I’ve long been a fierce advocate for pure Guns N Rookies strategy. But to stay at the very top in this caper you need to transform yourself – just like the game transforms. The simple fact is this – I do not believe that in 2015 a true Guns N Rookies structure is achievable without exposing too many bald spud rookies on field early. The risk of carrying some early donuts is huge this season – not only down back, but critically in your ruck division.

My strategy

I refuse to load my defense to D5. I’m dead set certain that too many are trying to go too deep back there with blokes they’ve conned themselves into thinking can get the job done. I don’t want to be stuck with a basket of overpriced under performing crap defensive bloody lemons.

I want to be in a position where I can pick off the quality defensive options as they emerge in the lead up to the byes. I need Ibbotson or Goodes to provide me reasonable early output – and critically – I’ll be looking at using at least one of those blokes along with a rookie as a stepping stone to the defensive options that put their hand up as the season progresses.

Selections of community debate

Scott Lycett

My point of difference folks – could turn into Tom Bellchambers of the ASADA thing clears him.

I’ve warmed to him as an option the longer the preseason has progressed. And I’m not convinced of Nic Nat’s ability to deliver in the first half of the season or spend extended stints on the ball. I’m expecting him to spend more time in the ruck this season than some are anticipating – and he’s also got more to offer as a fantasy footballer than most realise. A massive factor in my decision to run with Lycett is his FWD/RUCK eligibility. Mark my words – don’t prepare for the worst with your rucks this season and you’ll pay the price.

Daniel Rich

Been on him all preseason and I highly recommend him as a mid priced midfield option. Will run off half back and work into the midfield from day dot – and should benefit from the likes of Beams, Rockliff and Co copping the heavy attention. Don’t forget what a weapon this kid is – he’s fit – he’s hungry and I’m expecting big things here.

No Pendlebury

I’m not to keen on Collingwood at all this year folks. Today’s news doesn’t help. Predicting a hell of a tough season for the Pies. Pendles will have stuff all support around him in the guts and I believe we’ll see a fair old price reduction into the byes here. No doubts he’s a proven fantasy monolith- but too many doubts in the old scone for me to go with him. Will look for him around bye time at a reasonable discount.

Robbie Gray

Have come around to him over the past week. I’m still concerned that his price will drop early – but with only GAJ and Fyfe as extreme top enders in the guts I’m wary of the need for some robust potential C/VC fodder early if The Great Gary Ablett ends up struggling with the shoulder.

Mitch Clark

Don’t tell him this – but will be a very likely late inclusion. Leaving him out for the time being to send a very clear message to the young man.. you need to prove yourself this season son. And you need to play at least 6 games on the trot.

Big Ivan & The Flute

Very pleased with big Ivan and Minson. As Micky mentioned in the podcast – the expensive rucks will BLEED cash early because of the changed ruck scoring system. Changed scoring system taken into account – both of  these blokes are at unders – and both are capable of finishing as top 3 2015 ruckman.

What’s nagging at me

Ibbotson. Goodes. Rich. These blokes will win me the $50K – or provide me with a big arse headache.

This is as lean a midfield as I have entered a season with. I have some concern over my underpriced midfield premiums in Griffen, Swallow and Judd – and may upgrade one of those blokes if Bellchambers is let off the hook.

 

Look forward to the discussion community.

 

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@Rem_Wah

Okay… ….I am really spit between Cripps and Newton. Can someone convince me who to pick?

General Soreness

Cripps

@TylerCArmstrong

Cripps

Tyler

Cripps had an average of 101 points over nab while Newton only averaged 68…

steve

68 from 58% game time mate

Tyler

Even then Newton's average per 100 mins is only 117 points while cripps' average per 100 minutes is 136 points

@Rem_Wah

Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback – although I really am still unsure. I'll just go with my get I guess…

Swordfish

Actually, Newton scored 55 (from86%), 84 (from70%) and 65 (from68%). Average of 68 from 74.7% game time

Jayden

Actually swordfish if you look at the newtons first game he was subbed out at half time so no way he played 86% game time

WebSpyda

gotta have both at the start IMO

kyle k

Nice jock. I too am waiting on belly to see if he’s off the hook. Looks light in the mid as you say and interesting outlook on Pendles which is interesting that you keep swan if you reckon the pies will struggle.

RobDog

Agree with Jock on Collingwood and have no faith that Bucks has the group, therefore no Pendles (first time without him ever!) and no Swan either. I know Swan doesn't need much to increase in price, and is a proven fantasy pig, I know he cuts sick Anzac Day, but still think Bennell will be a better F3.

Jeremy

I bloody love it you little ripper. Lycett? Balls of steel.

Anyone got any thoughts or suggestions?

DEF
H.Shaw – M.Johnson – J.Newnes – J.Adcock – J.Hamling – A.Saad
(A.Oxley – K.McIntosh)

MID
N.Fyfe – J.Selwood – D.Beams – T.Boak – R.Griffen – P.Cripps – J.Anderson – C.Ellis Yolmen
(I.Heeney – A.Vandenberg – T.Miller)

RUC
W.Minson – N.Naitanui
(M.Cox)

FOR
R.Gray – D.Martin – H.Bennell – D.Swan – C.Salem – M.Clark
(J.Hogan – K.Lambert)

3k left over

RobDog

Looks a strong side Jeremy. IMO have gone off Anderson, Hawks too strong and will vest if picked, don't know if I'd go with Adcock and have gone with the Bont over Swan (will get close to giving you Newton over Anderson), otherwise same Forwards, which I think is a super strong line.

Brillsy21

What do you guys think of hurn?

@TylerCArmstrong

Good pick. M.Johnson should average slightly higher though. So will Harry Taylor probably who is cheaper.

cow roll

good kick but slow. will get beaten for pace in contest.
without McKenzie as a support is a factor.

SCaddict

Fantastic player but misses too many games lately to attract the interest of the majority of coaches. However if he can play 20 plus games in 2015 he should reward those who take the punt on him as he's one of the best kicks in the game.

It's just there are plenty of former burned Hurn buyers out there the past few years so there is a durability risk you would be assuming in picking him much like the big Mummy.

harry

almost a lock at some point to get injured in the first 5 minutes of a game and gutted subbed out under 10 sc

Matt

thoughts on juddy this year??

SCaddict

Should be a good pick and earn their owners some cash with a decent shot at points production in excess of 100.

However unlikely to be a season long keeper and probably more of a stepping stone to an elite I would think.

I perhaps like Scooter Selwood a little more for similar purposes but that's my own gut feel which could prove wrong.

General Soreness

A departure from Guns & Rookies is the understatement of 2015. Lots of Mid Priced madness in the mids has me really scratching my head. Was this put together at Bairnsdale?

You have taken hold of your plums and placed them firmly on the chopping block with your uniqueness , however I fear this will result in your eunuchness!

@Seekersupacoach

I love the Lycett selection I've been trying to get him in my FWD line for a while

Mike

He’s been in my team for a while. Now it just looks like I’ve copied Jock. Bellchambers might be the better pick now anyway.

Dwain

Nathan Krakouer is useless spend a little more and get Jed Anderson or Mitch Wallis.

Tyler

I'm pretty sure Jock only has krak in the midfield to swing him with either Lambert, swan, martin or grey

randomcliche

Love the team Jock. Would you consider running Lycett and TBC with say Maric to free up $200k? Thoughts?

Gold Rush

Where's Clark and Higgins Jock?

@TylerCArmstrong

Love the team Jock! You are an absolute genius. Biggest concern of mine though is the slim midfield, as the midfield is where most points are scored. And 100% agree with the backup ruck in fwd line! It would be stupid going in without one.

WebSpyda

Not really, If Nic Nat fires early as I expect! I can always replace him with bell balls if that is the right call at the time

Sarah

Dammit Jock, Lycett is my shark move!!!

cow roll

mine too. would not TBC even though he's better value for money. – he's a tool and gets injured too often.

cow roll

i have one more shark move and i'm glad every one has revealed their team.
have you got another one up your sleeves?

Sarah

Don't think so. I've gone with a 4-4-2-4 structure, which has more midfield rookies than most peoples structures with no midpricers (which are all the rage this year)… maybe that's a shark move?!

Northerner

Lycett was in my FWD line for most of the preseason as I do think the will be the highest scoring Ruck/FWD this year. However, as I have gone 2 premium rucks, I've decided to run the gauntlet and start without FWD ruck cover. If one of my rucks goes down for a long time I'll need to trade him anyway. If it's only a couple of weeks then that's when I will bring in the DPP FWD which I think will be Lycett. I'm not sure his price will change that much. Maybe Ryder could also be an option then at a lower price.

To have a DPP as late emergency ruck cover is a little fanciful as you'd need any late changes to be early round so you weren't locked out from making the necessary changes – e.g. not much good if your ruck DPP bench rookie's team plays early in the round.

Sarah

It's the 'being rested' for a week type things that I'm hoping to cover with Lycett. Last year I traded Ryder for a 1 week ankle injury to Mumford, and then traded him out a week later due to his knee. If I'd had ruck cover, I wouldn't have wasted these two trades which would've been vital later in the season. All rucks miss a game at some stage. I think cover is a necessity.
You make a good point regarding the 'late outs' though, and that's always a risk unfortunately that you can't necessarily cover for.

Mike

Me too. But now we’ll all be jumping on Bellchambers.

KJU FC

Maric or Nic Nat?

Matt

Big Ivan

cow roll

great question. – Maric for consistency and he has a better team to support him.

Ethan

maric is the safe option

Tulendeena

What's the situation with the rolling lockout rd 1?

Does it count towards our 30 trades if we trade in between The Carlton game and Saturday?

Only relevant because the teams are announced an hour before the game T_T

Marco_Polo94

Doesn't count until end of round 1

Marco_Polo94

Surprised you didn't select Wallis Jock! Don't reckon he will cut it anymore, or is it just that you prefer Rich? Solid POD team mate, not called the Father for nothing.

Gordo

surely they won't use him to tag with libba going down

Booma

Don’t think Beveridge will run much of a tagger at the Doggies & agree they need Wallis as an extractor in & under this year with no Libba.

Dyno Mite

Jock after missing last year's season I come back to the game very wary of how much things have changed….i also note that most of the successful premium defenders of last year lost their eligibility and combined with an absence of solid rookie options it's making things hard in defense. However, I will not resort to mid-priced madness. I believe that the key to success this year will be making guns and rookies work, and a bit of luck.

For me rucks must be sorted before r1 – I will be choosing two high class premiums.

I reckon you have to choose your tried and tested…..higgins and the like will only be more "burn man…welcome" as crouching would tell you.

I take the most enrichment from an article of yesteryear called "Art of Trading" from the archives. If you can learn anything from that, it is that trades and not necessarily your starting line up will determine how successful you are in the competition. POD's are important, but so is discernment.

Dyno

Random

Nice comment, every now and again I read a intelligent comment and it always has one thing in common, no one responds to it! Users here just seem to want to want advice on their team (clearly don't have own thought process) or respond to it.

But I agree, the trade of trading this season will be what wins the $50,000 with some luck along the way, all the best in 2015

That said the boys at JR are fantastic, I would just love to see some better, more insightful comments

Locked and Loaded

Making your rookies work is the same theory I have for this year. Yes they may not appreciate down back as we'd like but with smart trading they can still be turned into a reliable consistent defender. Great comment. Proven players are the way to go even fallen premiums scare me… they have fallen for a reason!

kevwal

Agree Dyno, have gone for the traditional guns and rooks. Ended up with a 4424 structure and expect these 14 to be keepers. Managing rookie trades and getting early rewards is the key. Injuries are always going to throw spanners into the works and some contingency plans should be part of your strategy, but, planning for failure/injury is not the way to win this thing. Plan for success and pounce when opportunities arise.

matty

No higgins?

KJU FC

Love the team Jock, absolute brilliance!
what are your thoughts on Geary? Looking to do with him what youre hoping to do with Ibbotson/Goodes.

FearTheBeard

I'd really appreciate a few people to give me some comments on the team I currently have and a few questions.

I'm running with

Shaw, Murphy, Newnes, Goodes, Oxley, Saad, McIntosh, Hamling

Pendles, Fyfe, Beams, Parker, Wines, Griffen, Crips, CEY, Heeney, Miler, Krak

Goldstein, Maric

Gray, Bartel, Martin, Salem, Clark, Lambert, Daniel, Lamb

My main questions is do I lock in Selwood and downgrade Dusty or Bartel to Swan.

Do I run Selwood over Pendles?

I'm happy with rucks, and defendes as long as 2 rookies play. Forward line I'm satisfied with other then if I run Swan or go for the 3 prems in Gray, Bartel, Martin.

Cheers guys.

Tulendeena

Do you have enough money to downgrade martin to swan and upgrade wines to jelwood?

Because if you do, that's what I would do

FearTheBeard

Interesting idea. I think I could just though I think Wines is gonna be a good pick this year.

What about downgrading Pendles to someone else and picking up an upgrade elsewhere? I've also thought about rolling the dice on GAJ over Pendles and a downgrade somewhere like Dusty to Swan.

Bonters

Yep I reckon Pendles to GAJ and Dusty to Swan. Big fan of the Wines selection

Gordo

feedback please. tear it apart
DEF shaw, newness, rampe, savage, goodes, brown (goddard saad)
MID pendelbury, fife, selwood, griffen, wallis(stepping stone to gaz) newton, cripps, cey (heeney vandenberg,lambert)
RUCK maric, naitanui (cox)
FWD gray martin swan bounty salem clark (hogan daniel)
169500 left in the back for mission get gaz back in as quick as possible if his shoulder holds up, i believe he will fall bait and wallis will rise (hoping for a straight swap but highly doubting that will be possible)

Matt

Simmo, Heater or Gibbo as D1?

Redgumwon

Heater

Tom

Jock, very poor hitout to advantage numbers for Lycett does not bode well, only 19% were to advantage, 4th lowest % of the top 50 ruckmen by hitouts per champion data. This will eat into any gain he main otherwise experience through increased game/ruck time with Cox out and Nicnat hobbled

Marco_Polo94

History says lycett scores well with nic nat playing tho.

Vince

Yer not keen on Lycett at all you have two set and forgets in maric and Minson so ditch Lycett 🙂

Sarah

You can't go into a season without some form of ruck cover. Ruckmen miss games all the time. You'll be forced into wasting valuable trades to avoid the donut.

Brett

Sarah what is Lycett in your forward line? F4?

Sarah

F4. I used far too many trades in the ruck last year because of '1 week injuries or resting'. I'm adament I won't be doing it this year, especially with only 1 ruck bench position. The odds of picking the playing rookie are pretty slim… mostly because there isn't anyone who's put their hands up.

Brett

Any chance of you posting your team? You have some great knowledge and would love to have a squizz at your team?

Sarah

Sure Brett, just for you!

Def:Simpson, Shaw, Kelly, Newnes, McIntosh, Saad (Oxley, Brown)
Mid:Pendlebury, Fyfe, Beams, Griffin, Newton, Cripps, Heeney, Sinclair (Anderson, Ellis-Yoleman, Miller)
Ruck:Goldstein, Maric (O'Brien)
Fwd:Gray, Bartel, Swan, Lycett, Clark, Lambert (Lamb, Steele)

Rookies are of course subject to selection!!

Brett

Beautiful team

Sarah

Thanks Brett 🙂

Brett

No Goodes?

MangroveJack

Has Goodes been elevated off the rookies list?

Redgumwon

yes

CJay
Sarah

I've got the money for him, but I prefer cheaper rooks who I think will have a similar average. With Goodes's age, he isn't in the dogs long term plans, but purely as injury cover. If Hamling and Goodes are in the round 1 team I'm picking Hamling.

Sarah

You'll notive that the Pies and Bulldogs are all playing Saturday night. It's the perfect opportunity to evaluate whether Hamling, Goodes, Oxley and Brown are playing and whether any of them are starting as the sub before locking anyone in. The supercoach gods have actually been kind there!!!

Sarah

The same thing goes for Karnezis, Daniel and Lamb in the forward line.

Redgumwon

I hear what you are saying about ruck cover Sarah. The same thing happened to me as well last year. Far to many trades burnt on ruckmen. I'm looking to bring in a fwd / ruck in when and if players like Ryder drop in value. It also lets me see their form before drafting them. I'll be doing the same thing for Lycett or Bellchambers.

I'd love to hear your thoughts and what other peoples thoughts are on this theory?

kevwal

Agree with you on this one Redgumwon, this sounds like a much better option. Only burn one trade to get ruck cover, if needed, and put a proven scrorer in. Patience people, the rucks will last at least half a season surely?

Sarah

Ryder lasted 2 rounds before missing a game, Mumford lasted 3 before missing 5 (ish). If there is a lesson I took out of last season it was this: Don't underestimate the value of decent ruck cover.

kevwal

Why Lycett then Sarah, why not Zac Clark? He will play all games, $407k and will get you 80 pts per game. L

Sarah

Because Cox has retired and Lycett averaged 96 when paired with either Cox or Nic Nat last year, and 52 when he played with BOTH Cox and Nic Nat in the team. He's priced at 77, so is underpriced. With Cox's retirement, he'll become the preferred second ruck. Nic Nat is also looking a little shakey from his 1 NAB game. I know NAB form can be taken with a grain of salt but he was coming off a bit of a back injury.

Anyway, that's my thoughts.

Clarke isn't a bad option either, but I can't see the same scope for improvement this year… maybe after Sandilands retires…

kevwal

Lycett will be the new ruck find of the season, I agree on that one. I just can't come to terms with not putting a keeper at F4 with my 4424 structure. I need rookies to generate cash to fill the last 8 spots on the field, and with the inevitable trade adjustments, need as many trades as I can get to achieve 22 top class players by year's end. I'm going with two premo rucks and, maybe, get forward cover if required.

Sarah

Everyone has different ideas on how to select their team. I'm not saying mine is the right way to go, but it is for me. I could quite easily turn Lycett into Martin, but having decent ruck cover is a non-negotiable for me this year so I'm not. Lycett will be the last one to be moved to the forward bench after my upgrades. As the NAB series closed, I'm leaning more towards the midfield rookies than the forward rookies. This also makes me more comfortable slotting Lycett in this position. It's pre-round 1, no one is right or wrong yet!!!
I've enjoyed this discussion kevwal, thanks!

Redgumwon

That's fair enough Sarah and you're right we all have different idea's on team structure. I'm looking more at scoring mid type players that will score better than key position or rucks early. As they are needed and their price drops I'll bring them in.

kevwal

Great debate gentlepeople. I was burnt later in the season last year due to slow start building some midprices into premos. Not enough points early set me back come the end of the year. Closed fast, but not fast enough You were burnt with rucks Sarah, I was burnt with a slow start.

SCOTLAND THE BRAVE

Sarah no Salem? I think u may have missed one there

Redgumwon

I've got Salem in my side, but with him will come great reward or a house of pain.

kooney

any feedback would be great fellas….. still few positions I am contemplating…

DEF shaw newness KK goodes brown saad (Oxley McIntosh)
Mid pendles fyfe lewis danger wines griffen rich cripps (yolmen miller heeney)
R goldy minson (cox)
FWD gray martin swan salem clark lambert ( Daniel krak)

thinking may need to sacrifice a mid for a more solid option like Gibson in DEF

Nash

Hey jock, loving the team mate and your not the father for nothing. Just wondering if you could give me some feedback on my team. Thanks mate

Def: Shaw, Gibson, R.Murphy, Newnes, Goodes, Saad (Mcintosh, Goodard)
Mid: Gaz, Pendulbury, Fyfe, Danger, Judd, Cripps, Henney, Elise- youlmen ( Vandenberg, miller, krakour)
Ruck: Goldy, Maric (Read)
Fwd: Gray, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clark, Hogan (lamb, lambet) $52,000 left over

If I could get yours or the community's feedback that would be great. Thanks

JoeWoolcock

Nice looking side Nash, loving Murphy at D3. Just one question, do you see Judd as a keeper if you've already got Gaz? Vandenberg won't be elevated pre-round 1 but other than that I don't see any big holes.

Nash

Thanks joe, I have been looking at judd this whole preseason and I recon he will be a keeper for in between 5 – 10 weeks, I would be lucky to hold onto him to the bye rounds but I think I will be upgrading him to a fallen premium around round 5 – 10

Tyler

Anyone else not going with Shaw?
I've gone with Simpson instead purely because I think he will play more games than shaw, and is worth the extra 15k even if his price drops a bit

Phil

I'm in the Simpson boat with ya Tyler, it's a pretty small boat though compared to that Shaw one!

Jayden

I’m going with Shaw with the hope that he brings his average up now that GWS will really be up n running this year and the fact that Simpson tends to dip in price at some stage of the season so all in all I think Shaw has more potential this year but will deffaintly look at Simpson as a upgrade target

yurkins

prefer simmo too. its gonna be a POD if you can imagine

oliverfisher

Thoughts on Scott Selwood as a bit of a smokey? Should play round one and can rack up the pill, or would it be better to go down to someone like Wallis or Rich, going in without Abblett and Pendlebury at the moment which may be a concern.

SCaddict

I like the idea of Scooter a hell of a lot. He's always had a stopping or run with role so I wouldn't let that put you off too much as he still finds plenty of the footy himself and is a tackling machine.

At $430K he's a steal and probably $100K underpriced. He started 2014 priced at around $550K iirc and appears to be finally fit and firing if NAB 3 was any indication.

shezza

I’d find a little more coin and get Jack Steven in. Look at his TOG in the NAB series. An absolute pig

SCaddict

I really like your defence Jock probably because it's virtually identical to my own except I may take the punt on Prince Harry rather than Taylor. I see you couldn't squeeze one of your personal favourites in Enright back there.

In fact I can't really call you out on any of your selections or non selections but then again you are the Father of Fantasy.

I was disappointed by Rich when I picked him after a huge preseason back in 2013 and he failed to go to the next level once the real stuff got underway but perhaps his role will change in the Hanley void. He will make money though it's just a question of whether it will be $100K or $200K.

Jayden

Out of rich Wallis and wells I reckon wells is the best safe option but Wallis has a lot of potential if he dosnt tag

Willy

Jock, love the look of your team. So much to go off from you boys. Do you think Rich may become Pendles or someone similar early on in the season? How long would you hold onto him? I've got him at D6 too.

Marco_Polo94

Virtually impossible to say at this stage Willy. You hold on to them until they appreciate enough to move onto a fallen premium. Or perhaps you keep them if they are scoring that well. All just depends on how they go.

randomcliche

If they can't crack 110 they are stones bro…just a matter of time

Tom

What is your strategy to cover Heath Shaw for the 4 games he will miss this year with hamstring/betting/discipline/car crash with Didak issues? Will you look to get in 7 premiums by season's end in defence, a swing man from the midfield or will you spare a fat rookie lamb the slaughter and keep them on the bench all year?

SCaddict

It's a legit concern for Shaw owners as he hasn't played 20 games in over 8 seasons. It may seem not bad averaging around 18 games a season but you will definitely feel the pinch during those 4 or 5 missed games if that happens again.

He just looks in such fine preseason form it's hard to turn down especially when we are light on defensive premium alternatives in 2015.

harry

although if he didn't get knocked out by tippett last year, would have played 21 games and be 2nd highest average for defenders

SCaddict

I guess that's kind of Tom's point that something always seems to happen with Heater that causes him to miss those 4 or 5 games even a Tippo KO but perhaps the fantasy gods will smile on Shaw owners this season.

I certainly hope that's the case as I'm prepared to back him in myself.

Tom

Correct, had Shaw played 20+ games even half of the last 7 years I would lock him in no questions asked, as it is I am going with Simpson who as I have previously argued averages similarly to Shaw but basically never misses games.
In the last three years, although Shaw has averaged more than Simpson (96.9 to 94.8), Simpson has outscored Shaw by 643 points as he has played an extra 8 games (63 to 55). As the name of the game is total points not average scores this makes a big difference.
Shaw has missed 30 games over the past 7 seasons, an average of more than 4 per year. Simpson by comparison has missed just 3 over the past 9 years (all as a result of a Sharrod Wellingham induced broken jaw that he took just 3 weeks to return from).

shane

Tom mate dont forget the rookie scores for those 8 games. The differenxe is much closer than you think.

killakombo

Jock.. no Mitch Clark and no room in your structures to get him in? this concerns me…

Jake L

G'day Jock. How relevant is Oxley and even Maynard now with Keefe's and Thomas' balls are in asadas vice. Out of the Pies rookies who do you see playing?
Cheers

Marco_Polo94

Could be wrong, but i don't think it plays a part in their selections. Different positions if I'm not mistaken to Keefe and Thomas.

Jake L

agree but those two( keefe and Thomas) are best 22. Can see potential for mew and different names bobbing up at cwood this year and names thAt have been forgotten being remembered like Karnezis and Scharenberg when he's fit

I N Pieman

I think Clark will outscore hogan & lamb chop combined. Bemused why the Reynolds folk won’t pick him. Maybe there is method to the madness. In the famous words of Pauline Hansen “please explain”

r2d2

Clark my f6……locked ! Will give enough output early doors I think

Gold Rush

Sorry Jock but that team has a tad of a 'Ben Dover' feel to it! Gonna make for some interesting Podcasts!

Gold Rush

Hope I don't get to feel your pain. But good luck and I hope it goes well.

Tyler

Is Dane Swan a keeper, or should you start him in your team and trade him out later on, IF he gets back to prem?

Gold Rush

Time will tell, we should know within the first month.

SCaddict

I certainly wouldn't be in any hurry to trade him out unless he gets injured or in the unlikely event he stinks things up.

harry

not a keeper, if you stupidly start with him, trade out after anzac day

@TylerCArmstrong

Yeah should be a keeper Tyler. The 6th highest scoring forward should average roughly 102, and I think Swan should reach that average comfortably.

harry

very optimistic

Deadly

Be positive hairy

The Egg

Awesome team jock, liking lycett, if you make the right trades throughout the season you may just be lucky enough to finish second overall at end of year……right behind me 🙂

Gordo

top work jock would hate to think how much time you put into this for us to read

pick two wallis wells rich or newton looking for quick cash generation with out losing a lot of points currently have 169500 left in the bank with wallis and newton, aiming to bring in gaz when i know his shoulder is ok and hopefully he drops a fair chunk. am i better leaving it with wallis and newton and hoping gaz gets sub and drops 100k over a few price changes and wallis goes up the same (wishful thinking) or burn two trades and start with wallis/wells/rich

Jayden

Do you have Cripps ?
If you don’t have Cripps go him over Newton
Wells is a better scorer then rich but Wallis has a lot of potential if he dosnt tag

r2d2

Thoughts on jaksch? From blues

Jayden

Reckon he might have too many “shut down role days” to be SC relevant

r2d2

Nice team jock , am waiting on tbc verdict also ,, currently in my team

Vince

Has goodes still on rookie list?

I N Pieman

Upgraded. Lock him in

randomcliche
steve

na mate still on the rookie list stay clear these guys are talking shit

throttlefinger

You are the father of fantasy, so I take it with this line-up you are giving us all a master class on guts and plums. Because that, my friend, is a guts and plums team.

Seems to go a bit heavy on the discounts premos (well, excluding Rich would is a career midpricer). Think having Griff as your M3 and not your M4 could be the weak link, in my humble opinion. It puts a helleva lot of scoring pressure on Swallow, Judd and Rich. Man, are you going to miss the consistency of Pendles.

But again, I'm a SC son basking at his father's feet. Best of luck, old man. Keep the tinny stock extra high this season.

RobDog

Love the team Jock. Is the only one so far with any ruck cover, everyone else including me at this stage has set & forget with the hope noone gets injured. You're right though, bloody big risk this year.

If the Bombers get weeks would you look at McKernan?

sammy

what do you reckon community not full locked in but very very close

H shaw, l hodge ,j newes , s Higgins ,brett goodes , Nathan brown (k mckintosh , a saad)

g abblett ,nat fye , d beams ,l parker ,s Mitchell ,p cripps , I henney a vanderberg ( n karkouer , t miller ,c ellis yolman)

t Goldstein nic nat (m cox)

r grey ,d martin , d swan , D TOWERS ,c salem , ,mitch clark (k lambert ,j Hogan)

The Ranger

Look at those plums!
Blimey Jock, that's a lot of gambles you're taking there mate.
Or is it?
Is it bloody supercoach bloody genius?
Sticking with a slightly more GnR strategy myself but good onya and good luck.

Rowan_

Size of the plums on old Jock!

Quick question for the community.

Do you prefer:

a) Higgins and Lumumba
b) Gibson and Kolodjashnij

SCaddict

That's a line ball call for me. All these guys have some ? hanging over them for one reason or another. If pressed for an answer I'd probably go a) but only just.

Rowan_

Thanks SCaddict. I'll probably chop and change a few times more before lockout…
I appreciate the response mate. Good luck for the season ahead!

randomcliche

SCaddict nailed it as usual. All got plenty of variance both ways. (disclaimer, have Gibson, but not the other 3).

@TylerCArmstrong

easily b for me. higgins and lumumba burnmen

Blueprime

None of the above.

Tony

Could easily see an argument being mounted both ways, but Gibbo and KK for mine. Think the gift will not score as well in the real stuff and Higgins is prone to snapping a heartstring.

Gibbo I think will be freed up as much as possible this year by the Hawks to create. Suns have a soft early draw and Malcho will receive defensive tag. Can see KK breaking out a little with little attention.

Tyler

I would go with B as well, Gibson will be free to roam for a while at least until Birchall comes back, the only times Gibson won't score well is if he is used as a shutdown player sometimes, and KK will be in the be in the midfield a lot more

Sean

Thoughts on James Kelly as a POD?

SCaddict

A very decent POD. Like his bud Enright his average has been in gradual decline but he could more than hold his value with decent midfield minutes.

Durability has also been an issue lately and is a good chance of being rested at some point even if the body holds up.

Redgumwon

Scott has said Kelly will spend more time in the midfield along with Jimmy Bartel. I've got both in my side

demon

yep a great pod,
if your looking to slide down the rankings that is

@TylerCArmstrong

how? Will average at least 90 this year.

Jayden

Don’t think he is much of a POD seen him picked in a lot of teams

Jacob

Looks decent. More midfield time which will definatelty be a recipe for at least a 90 average. 95 from 60% TOG in NAB 1 and 104 from 70% in NAB 3. Hes definately in my team.

Linford Shulman

How funny is it that phil Hughes died playing cricket, for more humorous statements hit me up on Facebook and don’t report me please

BEERsAllRound

No.
Its not funny.

Shut up, and respect a damn good cricketer.

OldOllie

yeah mate, start respecting greats – not laughing at them

didn't see you doing that mate

jim

Taking the pill there mate.
Your not wanted here.

@TylerCArmstrong

That's disgusting. Show a bit of respect.

Tony

Go away.

Brett

You are a waste of air. Phil will be respected forever, you on the other hand…

jim

Will not.

Peter

You would not know humorous if it bit you on the arse. Sod off

James

Hi community,

Can you please help me out with my team. I think it is okay but there is always room for improvement. I have 26k left over.

DEFENDERS: Shaw, Newnes, Higgins, Ibbotson, Henderson, Saad (Edwards, McKenzie)

MIDFIELDERS: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Selwood, Griffen, Rich, Cripps, Heeney (Vandenburg, Ellis-Yolmen, Freeman)

RUCKS: Minson, Natanui (Brooksby)

FORWARDS: Goddard, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clark, Lambert (Daniels, Krakouer)

Redgumwon

I like it and I love all the guns in the midfield. You've put together a handy side there

James

Thanks mate

Tom

What if I told you that Minson's record without Griffen is almost as bad over the past 3 years as Liberatore's record without Griffen. Is that something that you might be interested in?
Over the past 3 years, without Griffen, Liberatore averaged 88.2 compared to 101.3 in all games. Minson averaged 90.9 compared to 101.3 in all games.
In addition, the change to the ruck rules will result in a drop of 8.1 points per game if Minson's ruck statistics match last year's.
Add to this the absence of Liberatore and it's unclear who Minson will actually be able to hit the ball to to get a hitout to advantage,
I would select Nicnat, despite recent health concerns, average 120.1 in the 5 games Cox missed last year.

SCaddict

Certainly some food for thought there. Still at $500K I reckon Mino is reasonably priced although he won't make my own squad.

randomcliche

Yum. Delicious. Thanks Tom. Makes me feel happy about not having him.

babo

Thomas and Keeffe = Lock

Redgumwon

Ok the whole side has been rehashed after all the new article at the site. What do you guys think of this side?

def: Shaw, Kelly, Newnes, Henderson, Goodes, Saad, Edwards, Hamling

mids: GAJ, Fyfe, J. Selwood, Parker, Wines, Wallis, Cripps, Ellis-Yolmen, Heeney, Vanderberg, Steele

rucks: Maric, Minson, Read

fwds: Gray, Bartel, Swan, Salem, Clark, Hogan, Lamb, Lambert

Mitchell

Tom Mitchell or Taylor Walker?

@TylerCArmstrong

It says it in your name

Jayden

Walker could be good stepping stone

Wouldn’t touch mitchell with a 10 foot pole

SCaddict

I'm not wildly keen on either but would probably go Tex for his JS. Titch is somewhat of an enigma. His game is extremely SC relevant but he nevertheless struggles to hold down a spot in the Swans star studded midfield.

He may need to switch clubs before we can see his full potential which pains me to think that as a Swans supporter.

Mitchell

cheers lads

Rangtastic

Your team worries me Jock….but so does mine……as you keep telling us your a genius so I’m going to trust in your wisdom.

Thoughts on my team would be appreciated.

Backs: Gibson, Shaw, Newnes, Higgins, Geary, Goodes, Saad, McIntosh.

Mids: Rockcliff, Fyfe, Griffin, Swallow, Scott Selwood, Cripps, Newton, Ellis Yomen, Heaney, Vandenberg and either Lambert or Miller.

Rucks: Mumford, Goldstein, Cox

Forward: Gray, Bennell, Swan, Salem, Mitch Clarke, Lamb, Kracker, Daniel

Am I going to strong in the ruck department I like the idea of not having to change them injuries no withstanding. I like Scott’s ability to get the pill I can afford Stevens but worried about the tag. I almost got rid of Mumford and went with Minson, but how good is Mumford on his day. If Bellgamblers plays could get Minson and another Rookie in defence upgrade lamb to Bell.

I think that back line strength is important as I can see some bargains there.

PreviouslyOnLost

I like your team. Bennell is flying under the radar and I'm so close to getting him. Opting for dusty and bartel atm.

I too have had Rockliff in my team, but recent reports say he is going to play more time up fwd due to more midfielders to rotate through? I don't know if rocky is just joking, but i've been put off. I also reckon it's a huge risk to go in with 3 of grifin/swallow/selwood. Maybe try and get some cash elsewhere to upgrade selwood to an ultra premium like a pendles, beams etc?

I'm an eagles supporter and I don't see scott selwood as a relevant pick. Much prefer to take risk at sheuy at that price. Selwood will most likely tag throughout the year.

jim

Not the article says – he is going to contribute more to the FWD line (more goals) – Plus Beams gets first tag. Get Beamsy in as soon as Hanley comes in, he'll cop it till hanley comes back.

Rocky is your set and forget captain.

Booma

People worried about Rocky & GAJ playing more FWD time… Both are more than capable playing FWD with a potential for 3-4 goals a game. If they can average 3 goals/game & 20-26 possessions surely they will still pump out 125-130 consistently. Thoughts community??

Tyler

Add Fyfe to that list, saw a thing about him maybe playing forward a bit or attacking more

Shirt front

I didn’t set out to do so but somehow I have ended up with a predominately guns and rookies side. My concern or question is how much salary cap do I need to leave up my sleeve to later upgrade some cash cows and rookies during the season at the moment by chance I have managed to spend every cent and with a couple days left to final lockout I am starting to get concerned I should leave a couple hundred thousand for upgrades in the future please help someone any ideas???

Jayden

No point leaving cash in the bank as that cash on the bench could be scoring points for you week in week out

gazza_for_coach

A ship in the yard is safe but thats not what ships are ment for

Shaun c

I always thought you were a genius Jock and now I know… Cause this is the exact same structure I’m running with 😉

Vinnie

I'm not sold on Ibbotson, Jock. I think you may have overlooked Geary or Vlaustin. Even Taylor Hunt will see enough of it and give you an extra $80K to spend.

I'd consider making Swan earn it and put Dahlhaus in his place for $28K more. He'll see more midfield this season, as the Doggies will clear the 50m FWD arc often for their tall marking forwards

SCaddict

Ibbo is definitely a speculative pick coming back from an injury ravaged 2014 but his scoring ceiling is high averaging nearly 95 in 2013.

Jock mentioned in Sunday's podcast that he's very keen on Geary so rest assured he hasn't overlooked him, just making a tough choice as all Supercoaches have to do.

Perhaps Vlastuin can have a breakout season and then again perhaps he won't. Trying to accurately predict who the breakout contenders will be from the mere pretenders is a tricky business at best. At least Ibbo has proven he can deliver premium output when up and running.

cow roll

Heard from a Tiger's supporter that Damien has said Vlaustin will be tagging this year

Ibbotson is a good player. I worry about his past injuries as some Achilles and calf injuries are chronic. if that is case, he will always play with some niggling pain and the chances of re injuring is high

jim

Lycett/Natnui/McEboy/Smith/Bellchambers

Which one do you perfer?

Vinnie

Lycett, I'm a fan and he trained with the big dick himself….no better teacher than that

stickman

lycet was my smokey ya mongrel Show a few more balls and pick Higgins and wallis

randomcliche

Love it. You and Sarah both had him. At one point he was my R1! Lols.

jimmydowland

Thoughts on Harley Bennell at F3 and Swan and F4 jock??

SCaddict

I think we've all been waiting for Bennell to grab the competition by the scruff of the neck with the flashes of brilliance we've seen and his obscene level of talent.

He hasn't really fulfilled that potential thus far but perhaps this is the year. With DPP eligibility this season there are plenty worse picks out there but not for me and my structures.

Phil

I'm copped an absolute bashing for my TBC pick so far this season, but having the father of fantasy in my corner has been reassuring…. What no TBC? Do you know something the rest of us don't?
To be honest I understand, it's easier to plan without him and be given extra cash than the other way around. As such, I've traded him out for Maric. Poor guy he's lasted all pre aseason floating between F4 and R2 and now 1 day before the verdict he's on the outer.

randomcliche

read the commentary and notes bud.

jim

Sidebottom or Pendles?

Or any midfielder under Rocky's price besides (Ablett, Barlow, Lewis)

JoeWoolcock

Sidebum might well overtake Pendles this year, but that's a long shot so Scotty's the safe pick. Besides them there's JPK, Parker, Dangerfield

SCaddict

I'd go Pendles but also like Beams, JPK, Priddis and Parker.

Blube

Thoughts on masten and yarran?

JoeWoolcock

Finally, someone's mentioned Masten! I think OldOcker's spreadsheet showed a standard dev. of 54 one year (means he's bloody inconsistent!) but man the guy's a jet on his day. He's had a great NAB Challenge and if he can break that barrier he might be one of the picks of the season. Probably the biggest POD of all, actually…

@milesdeutscher

Amazing team Jock!

Rangtastic

Thanks mate

Jayden

DEF: Shaw, Gibson, Murphy, Newnes, Goodes, Saad (Goddard, Oxley)
MID: Fyfe, Selwood, Beams, Ward, Parker, Wallis, Cripps, Ellis-Yolmen (Heeney, Miller, Lambert)
RUCK: Goldstein, Bellchambers (Lucey)
FWD: Gray, Martin, Bontempelli, Salem, Lennon, Clark (Hogan, Lamb)
46k left

What do you guys think?

nick

lucey will not play a game for the cats not this year

Jacob

Nice looking team mate. Its definately a risk starting with TBC, but i think its taking a risk worth taking, especially with Kruezuer (will return in round 4 or 5) there to fall back on if TBC goes down. I think you could possibly downgrade Gibson into a rookie (Hamling, McIntosh) and upgrade Lamb to Bartell. To get the cash for that you might need to downgrade free up a bit of cash by sowngrading another rookie. Just a suggestion. Good Luck!

Jayden

Don’t feel like I need Bartel at this point but deffaintly as a upgrade target

Yes I know Lucey won’t play a game his there for captains loophole if I get an injury to a ruckman will just trade them

nick

got a question why pick any carlton player like judd for one his fantasy days are long gone and wont be doing anything this year same as crips don't think he can handle playing a top team griffin will get smashed first game he plays wont touch him and why pick big will and maric sorry I have some better info then u jock that big will is no longer a fantasy pig I have mummy and martin I don't care if I lose cash I would rather get points then money

Jayden

Last time maric had a full preseason he averaged 112

Also mummy and martin are very injury prone

nick

and he is also very injury prone its a risk I am willing to take mummy has doped 8 kgs and looks really fit and fast and saint Kilda first up 175 there martin the pies no rucks 185 with the new point system etc

DL123

360 between your rucks in round 1 is very optimistic pal. Mummy will go big, but not that big, and a 185 from Martin is about as likely as Jock picking Higgins

nick

and Jessie Hogan please and I notice none of u guys have the nab raising star winner in nakia cockatoo the kid will play every game for the cats tell me who was the las player geelong got in top 10 draft was selwood at 7 and look what happen that year get on him don't pick these players like crips go for cockatoo he is a better player then brad hill faster stronger and Hogan will not even get close to the raising star

dognino

I love reading your posts, you should post more often

Jayden

Cockatoo has to get used too afl before dominating yes his fast but also a very big vest risk in a couple of games
I would love for him to win the nab rising star award and I’m a cats fan

nick

he would be picked ahead of billie smedts cockatoo I think is a player ready I mean when we played joel first of people were a bit worried and he killed it and yeah I don't think scotty would put the vest on cockatoo he is a impact player that's what scotty said

@TylerCArmstrong

Hahahahaha well said.

Phil

good call Nick. Do you barrack for the cats?

Matt

Post could use a few full stops and commas imo

Tony

Big call to say he will be better than Brad Hill when he has yet to play a game. I agree they will want to get a few games into him this year but maybe hold off on the lofty predictions until we see how he handles playing with the big boys.

nick

I think he is stronger and faster then hill and unless sniper hodge lines him up but think he has a few tricks in his bow

Jacob

DEF: Shaw, Kelly, Newnes, Brown, Hamling, Saad (McIntosh, Oxley)

MID: Ablett, Fyfe, Beams, Parker, Griffen, Swan, Cripps, CEY (Anderson, Heeney, Miller)

RUC: Goldstein, Maric (Read)

FWD: Gray, Bartell, Martin, Salem, Clarke, Hogan (Lonie, Lambert)

Thoughts??

nick

get rid of read he will not get a game for the cats maybe next year

nick

and why have no one got franklin or hawk franklin and hawk will kick 6 or 7 goal first game and take 10 marks just wounding why that's all

SCaddict

If Buddy played a full preseason and didn't have various niggles I'd strongly consider starting with him like Higgo is planning.

He could really torch the Bombers this weekend although I see rain is forecast and like all KPPs he tends to struggles in greasy conditions. But ultimately those issues I mentioned turn me off starting with him at his $537K asking price.

derek

I'll wait for the buffalo bounce

lostlarrikin

Jock, this is as ballsy as the team Mad Mick deployed a few yrs back and rode it to the land of Mammoths.
Elephantitis has engulfed the mezzanine level with barely enough room for the mirror ball to turn.
I can see a twinkle, I hope for your sake it becomes blindingly brilliant.
Shine on mate!

nick

my team is as follows

Back r murphy newns taylor Ibbotson Oxley saad bench ramsey white

Mids rockliff fyfe steal Sidebottom s Mitchell d swan d rich n cockatoo I heeney bench Vandenberg ellis yolmen n Drummond

rucks martin mumford bench Nankervis

Fwds franklin bennell dahlhas hawkis membry clark bench c Daniel k lambert

what do u guys think this is the the team I am going start with and hope this team I will win with

Jayden

Lol

nick

what u laughing about

Jayden

Your side

scrofl

Also his grammar and punctuation

nick

is it a English class no so who cares