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PODCAST: LOCKOUT WEEK IS HERE

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Supercoach 2015This is what we call crunch time my beloved community.

Boys will become men. Some will rise to the challenge. Others will rue opportunities lost. The prepared will have their contingencies ready. The unprepared will lose themselves in the frenzied rush of lockout week.
This is an important podcast folks. In this episode we get out into our community for their views (many thanks to Maso, Mary Anne and the ripping blokes from Bairnsdale for a fantastic evening on Saturday).

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 Righto – lets get into lockout week discussion below..


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Rick Maynard

Burgoyne murphy Johnson newnes goodes saad (brown, mckintosh)

Ablett, fyfe, kenedy, wines, a.swallow, sheed, Cripps, ellis yolmen

(Heeney, miller, Steele)

Mumford, minson (read)

Gray, bartel, swan, Salem, clarke lambert

(Lamb, Goddard)

Thoughts ?!?

Jack

How confident r u in she'd personally I think u could probably get better value out of Newton Anderson or ororke

harry

Anderson / O'Rourke over Sheed… boy oh boy woweeee

Motsy

Good luck for the season community, it's been a great pre season. Beers all round

OldOcker

Are you the real Motsy? and are you going to shout? because I will take you up on that.

Tom

Is griffen a lock?

Cezza93

I think hes a person. But i suppose he looks like Padlock. Lel.

Bonters

no

dognino

No, he's a chance to return to premium output. Same risk as wines, Neal, Judd, swallow. I'd only put 1 of these types of players into my midfield , I happen to have griffin, based on my gut he will do well at gws.

harry

is his back magically 100%?

Isaac Kenna

He bloody lock

Rock-MAN

Top 5 MIDS and why?

oscar

ablett, rockliff, pendlebury. fyfe. selwood

do i even have to say ?

PDP

Yes. Excellent bunch and rather than have a sixth, you have seven midfielders who will make heaps, providing your seven get selected

jim

Well I have gone Ablett, Rockliff, Barlow, Pendles, Fyfe, Jelwood, Sidebottom, Parker – as my top 8.

PDP

Gutsy effort Jim and good luck because you will need it. I would be interested to see what the rest of your team looks like since you have spent about 45% of your allowance on eight players!

JJFYZZ

I thought the question was the top 5 mids. Not the 5 mids you have in your team, or 8 as Jim has mentioned.

I may be wrong but I think Jim may have been saying who he thinks his top 8 will are for years end. Not who he is starting with.

OldOcker

Top 5 mids.
Bit late in the season of Supercoach to be asking that question when there are so many articles and stats offerings available. Sometimes we have to make a decision for ourselves. Asking for reasons why is going overboard.
Opinions of other people help you come to your own decisions and therefore I do not give advice but only an opinion.
Lesson in life, Learn to make your own decisions

Last years top 5 are: Ablett, Rockliff, Pendlebury, Fyfe and Selwood.

Cheers.

matt

simpson, shaw, hibberd , KK, Newnes, Goodes (Oxley, Saad)

Pendlebury, selwood, danger, Griffen, cripps, Heebn7y, Vandenburg, ellis yolmen, (Freeman, miller, Lambert)

Mumford, Nic Nat (Brooskey)

Lids, Goddard, Martin, Swan, Karnesses, Clark (Hogan, Steele)

was thinking taking hibberd out and put in another premium forward of Buddy/bartel or zorko

Redgumwon

Bartel

Matthew

This team is Quality! very impressed. Good luck

Tyler

Pretty light in mid don't you reckon? You're going to have to do a lot of upgrades there, but I suppose you have enough rooks to do so. Also swap karnesis for hogan, he's been named round 1 and should do alright against the suns

Dean

Sorry m8 but I don't like this team at all. You have gone seriously heavy in Defence & Forward but your midfield is ordinary at best.
The majority of points are made up in the midfield, if I were you I would restructure your defence BIG time and stick with just the one Premium such as Shaw or Simpson, then select a player like Newnes and the rest just mid priced players such as KK, Goodes & so forth,

You need at least 1 more premium midfielder in my opinion.

I'm not a fan of Karnesses but thats just a personal thing.

matt

I respect your decision completely dean, and i see where coming from, but as every supercoach player knows is the mid rookies make up the most cash out of any line, i believe you need lots of mid rookies, (personal opinion) I really just don't want to miss the boat on them. like i did last year with tyson and a few more.

And my reasoning behind the forward line is (look at impey and rohan, who only made 50-100k at best last year) which i can not let the same mistake happen. ive actually changed now, got rid of hibberd for Gray, which im pumped for.

Good luck this year
excitement is immense

cobzy

Backs-Shaw, Newnes, Harry O, B Goodes, McIntosh, N brown
bench- Hamling, Saad

Mids- Penders, Fyfe, Selwood, Ollie, Griffin, Neale, Cripps, Ellis-Yolmen
Bench- Jed, Heeney, Touk Miller

Rucks- Maric, Bellchambers
Bench- Read

Fwds- Bartel, Dusty, Swan, J Cameron, Salem, Clarke
Bench- Lamb, Lambert

300k in bank for immediate upgrade when value rares it’s head

jim

Ollie > Beams
N.Brown > KK

Avzmo

After being promised with so much value in the mid-price ruck area at the start of the year, I think you would be stupid to take any of them now.

All of Giles, Bellchambers, Kruezer and Leuenberger won't deliver scores worthy of picking them. Upgrades your R2 in my opinion.

didz

Fyfe or pandlebury?

Bonters

fyfe

George

Goodluck to everyone in the community..
Would love some thoughts on my team.
DEF:Malceski,Shaw,Newnes,Goodes,Mcintosh,Hamling(Saad,Oxley)
MID:Ablett,Pendles,Fyfe,Sloane,Griffen,Cripps,Cockatoo,CEY(Heeney,Vanderberg,Miller)
RUCk:Mumford,Goldy(Read)
FWD:Gray,Bartel,Swan,Salem,Clark,Hogan(Lamb,Lambert)
Cheers…

T-mitch

Very nice well balanced team, best of luck

oscar

Great podcast crew

peds72

As a challenge, I field a WA State of Origin SC team each year. The only restriction is that players must have started their careers in WA. I don't win a lot of games, and there are few opportunities for upgrades, but it's good fun. Anyone game to put up an SA or Vic team against me?

BACK: Rance, Yarran, Lumumba, Bewick, Ibbotson, Pearce C (White, McIntosh)
MIDFIELD: Fyfe, Priddis, O'Meara, Wells, Rich, Newton, Sheed, Cripps, (van Berlo, Pickett, Garlett)
RUCK: Naitanui, Leuenberger. (Sinclair)
FORWARD: Ryder, Franklin, Bennell H, Gault, Clark, Hogan, (McCarthy, Abbott)

PDP

At last a Buddy believer. If Essendon get suspended I am sure many will jump on Buddy because he could kick 8 – 10 first up and score a squillion Supercoach points.

OldOcker

That is great for one round but what happens when the rain comes, What if, Maybe and But. Buddy is a very valid selection this year.
I am a BUDDY Believer but not at his current price when there are much more consistent forwards to consider. He will obviously come into calculations once I see him play a few but he is not a consideration for me because he has not played more than19 games in a season for the last four years.
I want to start the season with proven point scorers that play 22 games.

OldOcker

You are looking at too many upgrades in defense, midfield ruck and forward line, Good luck to you if you are going to go mid-priced mayhem or madness but your team is doomed to fail in all areas of supercoach.

In saying that if you are only going for a league win, You maybe okay depending on how inexperienced your mates are.

Entering a team that depends on where careers started means that you are not really serious about winning Supercoach so I can only assume that you are going for a league win which you will probably do based on your theory.

You are breaking the rules of Supercoach if you plan to have more than one team.

Good Luck to you but NO $50,000 OR $1,000 for the highest score of the week.
I am not going to bother to ask you questions but I hope you have a trade plan and someone to trade up too.

Cheers.
You do not seem to be taking the game seriously. (No response required)

peds72

I take it VERY seriously OldOcker.

I'm a News Corp employee and not eligible for any prizes, so the Sandgropers is all about challenging myself and any wins are a bonus.

However, my second team, Cuzzy's Psychotics, is as serious as a breach at the SAS Barracks – and after spending many hours listening to the wisdom of Jock and his team, I reckon I'm getting close to putting together a bloody good team!

OldOcker

Cheers peds72 but there have been so many bogus people from other sites trying to destabilize things on this site and I cannot understand the amount of time that they are willing to waste on doing that.

Never thought about it from your point of view and please accept my apologies if I offended you. Throttle is in the same boat because he is from overseas US, New York but he still has a go.

Dools has a league for us blokes if you want to join the "Ground Zero Games" I am sure he will be honored to have you aboard as much as I would

Cheers.
All the best with both of your teams.

peds72

Thanks Ocker – absolutely no offence taken. Curious to hear that bogus types are trying to destabilise the site. Not sure how they'd even do that… Should Jock be worried about a coup? 🙂

Would love to put the Sandgropers up against others in the community, instead of just random strangers in public leagues – just let me know the league code, cheers.

(It can be a challenge for the Sandgropers just to get a team on the park some weeks, since I've limited myself to about 15-20 per cent of available players – but that's all part of the challenge!)

OldOcker

Jock is aware believe me but is not concerned at all. Someone like myself and a lot of other contributors are wasting their time replying to people that are not serious. We do this off our own backs out of appreciation for this site. What it has to offer and trying to help the inexperienced.

You may face a hard time trying to get the Sandgropers into the community as a league effort, But there are probably some people in the same situation as you in other states. I would be interested under your circumstances but fortunately I am not.

Dools league I can't give you the code for because it is his league. If you have association with SAS I would suggest that you contact him when you see him online.
Or drop me an email at [email protected] and I will contact him to see if you are eligible.

Cheers.

peds72

Thanks Ocker – if I do try to get a team into community leagues, sounds like I'd better stick with my "serious" team. I have no association with the SAS – I was just making a bad Ben Cousins joke. I named my team "Cuzzy's Psychotics" several years ago, when his problems seemed entertaining, but now that he actually is psychotic, it's stopped being funny.

splinter

better keep your second team on the down low, since its against rules to have two team

OldOcker

He is a News Corp employee so he is well aware of that splinter.
It is not down low anymore.

General Soreness

and probably only really against their rules if you are eligible for prizes.

Tyler

You could try fit Judd in there, a lot of people are jumping on him

jmy7

Amazing podcast lads, yous are the man’s, just one quick one, to the community
Simpson, Smith, shaw, Newnes, McIntosh, hamling ( Goddard, Saad
Would love any thoughts

Kev

Fits into a GnR approach if you have a similar structure on other lines. If you're strapped for cash elsewhere downgrade Smith to a KK/Goodes wouldn't be the worst move

jmy7

Cheers, helped heaps kev!!

harry

can't complain

Mendo

Here is my team,thought??

DEF:Shaw,Gibson,Newnes,Pearce,McIntosh,Saad(Hamling,Oxley)
MID:Pend,Fyfe,Selwood,Boak,Danger,Griffo,Cripps,Ellis-Yolmen(Heeney,Miller,Krakouer)
RUCK:Goldy,Nic Nat(Cox)
FWD:Gray,Bartel,Swan.Salem,Clark,Lambert(Hogan,Lamb)

Jimi

Personally, I think running x2 rookies + Pearce in DEF is too risky, as is starting without Ablett (although I accept the logic of people who aren't starting with him).

I'd look at downgrading Gbson to a Lumumba/Higgins/Savage type and use it upgrade one of your 4 rookies or Pearce.

Just my opinion though. I think you have a good team.

Avzmo

I respect the generalities of this fine sir above me, however I think you have the guts of a good team. My only real change would be Pearce out, maybe Goodes in. Pearce looks to be the tagger if Crowley is out for the season so don't be fooled by his one NAB Cup game.

Otherwise team is reasonably solid.

Mendo

thanks jimi,good advice.

Mitchell

Which structure do you think would work best?
1. IN DEFENCE: 3 players more than $400k and 6 players less than $250k. IN MIDFIELD: 6 players more than $500k and 5 players less than $250k
or 2. DEFENCE: 4 players more than $400k and 5 players less than $250k. IN MIDFIELD: 5 players more than $500k and 6 players less than $250k

oscar

defence has 8 players

Mitchell

My bad… there is one extra player for less than 250k in each option

Mitchell

*in defence

oscar

fair enough, id go option 1, as there are a few mid priced option in defence you could jump on

Mitchell

cheers mate

Avzmo

I'd definetely and easily pick Option 2.

Playing 3 defensive rookies on the field is asking for a shit start, especially when it looks liek there are still quite a few quality midfield rookies looking set to play round 1.

If these two options are what you really want to start with; 4 Premo defenders with 2 rookies on field, and 5 midfield premos with 3 rookies is the way to go.

Matthew

I'd go number 2, all the rookies are in the midfield, you can find 6 quality rookies in your mid who will play and score whilst also having the 5 premiums. also you will struggle to find 5 players under 250k in your defence.

skate or die

you marvellous man Jock.

@t_woof

Thanks for the podcast, was very interesting listening.

Have a good week everyone, and all the best for the 2015 season.

Samuel

G'day community! What do you think of my team below?

DEFENDERS
H. Shaw, H. Taylor, J. Newnes
B. Goodes, A. Oxley, J. Hamling
[K. McIntosh (E), A. Saad]

MIDFIELDERS
S. Pendlebury (VC), N. Fyfe (C), J. Selwood, J, Kennedy
J. Lewis, R. Griffen, P. Cripps, I. Heeney
[C. Ellis-Yolmen (E), T. Miller, K. Lambert]

RUCKS
T. Goldstein, N. Naitanui
[T. Read (E)]

FORWARDS
R. Gray, J. Bartel, D. Swan
C. Salem, M. Clark, J. Hogan
[T. Lamb (E), C. Daniel]

Remaining Salary: $11,300

jim

Martin can avg. over 100 this year. Can't miss out.

Jimi

I've been singed by Martin for the past couple of years, with all the extra talent available in the FWD line this year he's an upgrade target at best for me. I'm going to waiting and see if he can consistently convert his great starts into solid 100+ scores.

Samuel

I’m mainly concerned about the number of rookies in defence (too many). Is there anyway around this with the cash that I have that won’t affect the ruck/fwd lines? … happy to make changes to def/mid though

Motsy

how about cockatoo vs newton?

General Soreness

Based purely on preseason form, Newton by a street.

Jimi

Hi Community, good luck for 2015. Since it's the eve of comp I would love a bit of feedback if you could spare me a few mins.

Shaw, Newnes, Lumumba, Geary, Goodes, Saad (McIntosh, Brown).
Ablett, Fyfe, Parker, Wines, Griffin, Cripps, Anderson, Ellis-Yeoman (Heeney, O'Brien, Miller)
Mumford, Maric (Read)
Gray, Bartel, Swan, Bellchambers, Salem, Clark (Steele, Lambert)

65k left
If Bombers get suspended I will likely downgrade Mumford to Skinfloot and upgrade Bellchambers to Bont.

matthewjsampson

G'day community, you bunch of beautiful fantasy brain bastards. I'm closing in on my final team for round one. Still not 100% in love with what I've put together so I'd love to hear your thoughts!

$18,700 left in the war chest.

DEFENDERS
H. Shaw, J. Newnes, S. Higgins
G. Ibboston, J. Hamling, A. Saad.
(A. Oxley, K. McIntosh)

MIDFIELDERS
G. Ablett, N. Fyfe, J. Selwood, P. Dangerfield
R. Griffen, P. Cripps, I. Heeney, C. Ellis-Yolmen
(A. Vandenberg, N. Krakouer, K. Lambert)

RUCKS
T. Goldstein, N. Naitanui
(K. Brooksby)

FORWARDS
B. Deledio, J. Bartel, B. Goddard
D. Swan, C. Salem, M. Clark
(J. Hogan, C. Daniel)

Kev

Ibbo and Nic Nat are the riskier picks but you've gotta make some tough choices somewhere. I'd swap one of Krak/Lambert forward for Hogan and grab another pure mid. Don't think Vandenberg has been upgraded yet?

Johnny

Is 16 rookies too many? What do you think is the ideal number of rookies to have?

sam siddall

Ive got 16 if u count goodes

Jayden

It’s not about how many rookies you have. It’s about how many keepers you have?

@HJ_Mitch

Wow! I'm tipping Bairnsdale at preseason with Maso & Mick & Jock & Higgo is like Deliverance!!!
They made as much sense as my grandmother with dementia!
Ablett comments? crap.
As for Shaw, Clarke, Tom Mitchell, et al – wait and see the line ups.
In summary, a podcast that should be tucked carefully in the cat's litter tray.

Tom

Agree Mitch – Mick the Mad Irishman must have dementia – Not starting Ablett and starting Mumford instead makes no sense for mine. I guess at least his name has some creditability cause he f##king MAD

OldOcker

Heeney and Mitchell are both likely sub vests for mine. They might share a game. (Heeney will still make money regardless)
Shaw can't play 22 games.
Clarke in combo with Hawkins could work like Buddy and Tippett. Geelong are pleased to have him as a distraction if nothing else.

Tyler

Ocker is there any chance you could do a team reveal? I think that would be very interesting and would love to see who you've picked. That would be my favourite team reveal I reckon

OldOcker

Tyler, Just working on "The Ultimate Spreadsheet" for next year.
If you would like to see my team, Which I have not finalized yet drop me an email at "[email protected]" and put in the subject heading TYLER and I will send it to you ASAP.

Cheers Bloke.

General Soreness

I thought I could hear the plucking of banjo's and the squeal of a pig in the background.

throttlefinger

Hilarious, HJ.

@TylerCArmstrong

Loved the podcast boys! Would like to hear the communities view on griffen. Don't think he will end up in the top 8 mids. Am i going mad??

Jimi

He has the potential to but I guess it all depends on how he settles in at GWS. I'm rolling the dice with him. Risk and reward.

John

Probably wont end up top 8. Somewhere around top 10-15 would say, good value though

OldOcker

Not at all Tyler, I have never considered Griffen to be top 8 this year and has never been in calculations for me.

harry

your mad if you ever considered him as a top 8 mid

Dean Billman

He is this year's Marc Murphy of 2014. Good value for money, will put up some good scores here and there. Will probably end up being your M8 by the end of the year.

Swans2012

Not corrupting my team this year with maybes in the midfield, only locking in the proven big guns, pendle, Fyfe, selwood, beams etc. and rookies (and maybe a 300k stepping stone) Griffin at maybe top fifteen mid just doesn’t fit the bill despite being good value.

General Soreness

Wont go top 8, but has a massive ceiling, proven performer, wont drop in value, will hurt anyone without him if he goes large even once early.

Marco_Polo94

I'm hoping for some big early scores with GWS easy early run, and then plan on using him to go to Ablett

John

hey guys Great podcast!
just 2 quick questions to the community
1. Just wondering peoples thoughts on Simpson?
any reason why he couldn't average the same as last year?
wont miss many games and has a good average, something im not seeing?
2. Who do you think will average more,
Beams, Sloane, JPK, Sidebottom, Parker?
Thanks guys

dognino

Simpson will do the same as last year and the 7 before that, only problem is you can problyick him up for under $450k during the year. But I'm starting him myself based on consistency and only missing 3 games in 5 years or so.

Beams , Sloane/Parker , JPK, sidebum

John

yeah thats what im weighing up, get him cheaper later on maybe
use the money in defence and get another 5 or so points out of a player
or use it in the mid to maybe get 10 more, and going in with a riskier backline.
as always risk vs reward…
thanks mate

General Soreness

Simpson is solid but will throw in a stinker.

Beams will probably average the most, but the others are potentially better keeper picks.

Bonters

hhahahaha "Jock you are drunk"

Jim

Thoughts on Nick Riewoldt people? Saint Kilda actually have a really nice opening draw, and Riewoldt always starts off the season firing.

matt

He'll probably smash the tonnes at the start but St Kilda gonna struggle again this year, which will hurt his points. I love the big man tho, if he dropped to 400k I'd buy him but his consistency is a little off for that sub-500k price tag. Hope to see him do well though, an absolute legend of the game and the heart of St Kilda.

General Soreness

With the value up forward, will not touch him with my 10ft pole.

Matthew

I heard Jarryn Geary on the radio. Due to family problems Reiwoldt could potentially miss the first game. Watch.

Jim

yep just realised he said he's still not sure whether he'll play Round 1, so I've gone off him.

sam siddall

Stuff u mick the mad Irishman just gave away my idea with rucks

Luke

im going a ballsy pick in Miles or Cotchin. Martin is already Locked in FWD line

OldOcker

Very BALLSY. Do you have an upgrade plan? Surely you must look at upgrading at least one of the two.
OR do you really think both will be in top 8 midfielders at the end of the season?

Kev

I'd take Miles, Luke. Cotchin has shown he can struggle with a tag and has had a bit on an interrupted preseason

Jay

Thoughts on M Hallahan? and should Dusty be in the forward instead of mids?

shezza

Definitely put him in your forward line and not your midfield.

General Soreness

Dusty forward, Hallahan a long way back in a field of strong GCS mids.

Andrew

Thoughts on Pendlebury? He'll get tagged but he should still be able to avg 115+ right?

Caz

Been tagged for years, won't matter will average 115-120 again

Jayden

The thing that is alarming me with not selecting him is the fact that I reckon collingwood might lose more games then recent years which means he might not score as much this year

First time I’ve gone without him

Sarah

I've been looking at the Pies averages for their top 10 players over the last 4 years. The Pies have been on the slide during this time and while the top 5 and 10 players averages have dropped off, the top 3 has remained fairly consistent. So if you think Pendles, Swan and Sidebottom will be the top 3 Pies averages this year, then there's good data to show that they're combined averages won't suffer (in Swan's case it'll improve on last year). I can't see another Pie that could jump up to take one of their spots so I'm now confident in my Pendlebury selection.

Phil

Good point Sarah, I reckon a lot of Pendlebury (and Sidebottom/Swan) owners will be a lot more comfortable after reading that

Sarah

Thanks Phil. It certainly made me feel more comfortable starting with Pendlebury!

kevwal

Hi Sarah, good to hear from you again. I have taken your words on board and once I made the leap, the structure has ended up very balance, pure guns and rookies with a 4-4-2-4 structure. Pendels is my first upgarde. Have Gaz/Fyfe/Jelwood/Beams.

Sarah

Hi kevwal! I've got a 4-4-2-4 structure as well.
My mids are Pendles/Fyfe/Beams/Griffin. Would love to squeeze in Lewis/Parker or Wines but I just feel that Griffin is too much value at his price. What do you think?

kevwal

Jordan Lewis will fire up early, but I can't fit him in with the 4424 structure. I have 14 keepers and 16 rooks. A $413k at D4 who will give 90+ this year.Swan at F4. Not sure Griffin will make top 10 by end of the year. Will get him in later if he does.

General Soreness

Start without him at your own peril.

Stevie

Great work jock! I love it when u guys cast out the pods for us humbles in the community. A lot of contrasting structures and selections this year which goes to show there is no right or wrong, only god! And ya pick him!

OldOcker

The real beauty comes from differing Opinions and lessons you can learn from these Opinions whether it be a Joe Blow from down the street or a self professed stats man like myself.
The greatest lesson you will learn in life is that you listen to Opinions of other people that you think have a valid argument to form your own Opinion.
GOD = Gary Ablett = Gary Ablett JNR. (Son of God or baby Jesus) I can recall saying Jesus a few times when I saw senior play.

Welcome.

Caz

Hi guys thoughts on my team very much appreciated
Def. shaw hibberd newnes goodes mcintosh saad ( hamling Byrne )
Mid. Ablett pendlebury fyfe selwood griffin Cripps anderson ellis yolmen ( heeney miller lambert )
Rck. Mumford goldstein ( read )
Fwd. grey bartel martin salem clarke lonie ( daniel lamb )

Kev

Don't reckon Byrne is the best cash cow option down back

Jayden

Mick the mad Irishman sounds a lot like tadgh Kennelly ex swans player from Ireland

RobDog

Great podcast Jock et al. Good luck with the season all and thanks community for the insights.

Scottish iain

Righty o first ever post. Scotsman living in Macao (china) mad footy fan. Surely gotta go with rocky in the mids, not heard any talk from anybody yet? Bartel &gray locks in forward line. Mummy for 1st 5-6 weeks, Gibson must hav playing free across half back with frawley taking 2nd tall #1 def thoughts?

Kev

A lot of unknown at the lions. Though I reckon if gaz doesn't front up for round 1 Rocky will find his way into a lot of sides. Agree on Gray and Bartel, Gibson is in my team at the moment but his rebounding is an unknown once Birchell comes back in. You'd want Mummy to last more than 5-6 weeks if you're shelling out 613k for him! I'm thinking longer term with my rucks, Goldy and Maric

shezza

Please rate my side:
Def:Simpson Shaw Newnes Geary Goodes Saad
Emg: McIntosh* Hamling

Mids: Pendlebury Fyfe Beams Parker (VC) Griffen Cripps Ellis-Yolmen Krakour
Emg: Newton* Heeney Blakely

Rucks: Mumford (C) Goldstein
Emg: Lucey

Fwds: Gray Martin Bartel Salem Clarke Lambert
Emg:Steele* Lamb

Kev

Not a lot wrong with, shezza. Personal preference is Cripps over Newton, but that's your call

shezza

I have both.

Phil

I like the way you think she's a. The Krak is in my team too

Phil

*shezza not she's a…..damn you auto spell

Tomgustygem

He already has cripps! Chuck newton on the field for krakour. Solid team mate!

shezza

I am waiting to see who plays first out of Heeney and Newton and if the first one flops, i will put the other on the field. I am still weighing up to go Mumford to Maric and making $80-$90K. I’m not sold on Tom Lamb. Thinking of moving Krak to fwds and then get Anderson in my mids for bench cover and waiting to see if Dalgleish gets named for Ess so I can swap Hamling out for him

Throttlefinger

Agree with Kev. Newton doesn’t have the engine yet as his nab TOG will attest. Red vest candidate.

throttlefinger

Very interesting podcast, gents. Appreciate you guys trying a different format.

Can't say I agree with a lot of the points being said, especially rucks and Gaz. But at this point, we all have decided on our structures and dug our heels in.

Great news is that the rubber will meet the road this week and the SC gods will smile on some and smite others. Can not wait. Think this has been one of the most interesting/challenging preseasons. The teams should reflect that.

Kev

As usual, bang on throtts. Can't bloody wait to have the footy back. We've had too much time to second guess ourselves with strategy, rucks, Gaz or not to Gaz, backline dilemmas, the list goes on…

Locked, loaded and ready to go. Best of luck of 2015 mate

throttlefinger

Best of luck to you, my man!

Chomping at the freakin' bit to talk footy with you and the rest of the community all season.

FootyFanatic

You know we have had too much time when we start second guessing whether we should start with Gaz or not, if playing he is a absolute lock.

throttlefinger

No second guessing. No NAB no Gaz. It's been one of the easier decisions this preseason.

FootyFanatic

You raise a good point, but from most reports Gaz is in good nick and is very fit. Getting him in later on in the season will be a headache and will require a lot of $$$. If he is playing round 1 he will be in my side but only time will tell whether it was the right decision.

throttlefinger

It's as much the mental as the physical, as this is Gaz's first major injury. That can't be discounted. He will have trouble reaching 120 much less 130. By the time his form returns, he won't be near his price he started with so won't be difficult at all to slot him in.

He's price as if he is not returning from a serious injury. That makes the decision fairly easy. You pay top dollar, you want the bribery not ground chuck.

In the end it's a matter of preference. With that I wish you luck this season, FF.

FootyFanatic

Gaz is a champion and he will definitely be tested mentally, but if anyone could come back from injury and score big it would be him. But then again he is just as likely if not more to have a few mediocre scores, but I am just going with my gut decision by starting with him as I have faith in the little champion.

throttlefinger

Gotta go with your gut. But he will be managed for long term not for his immediate SC scores. Why risk your prized possession against the team that lost to top ups?

Matt

If he is not fit to play he won't play – regardless of opposition. What makes you think he will be managed during games? He has completed a full pre-season apart from contact drills so fitness isn't an issue. If the shoulder isn't structurally sound he won't be risked and won't play. If named I would expect him to play his normal minutes. You can't mange a structural shoulder injury it is either good to go or not. Why would he be subbed??

throttlefinger

Matt, c'mon buddy. He didn't have any contact until last week. No NAB, which the man himself expressed that he wasn't ready for. It's not healed. He's being managed as we speak.

But he is proud and wants to play. Yet knows he's dealing with something he has NEVER had to deal with…recouping from a major injury. He would be subbed because that anxiety to not get injured again could have him red vested if the game vs the dees gets one sided. That's my feeling. He is their prized possession and if he's named R1 and gets one half in…that' s a major psychological victory for him. Which Gaz will need sorely.

Just a theory.

Matt

Throttle, they are hardly going to risk the best player at the club and "prized possession as you state" if he is not fit. You are over thinking it. He won't be managed at all. If fit he plays – if not he doesn't. You can't mange a shoulder injury – if it is not right could just as easily reinjure in the first 5 minutes as the second half. Hardly think Gary Ablett is going to risk the whole season and play RD 1 if the shoulder isn't right. His pride as nothing to do with it. Also I think you are overplaying the mental anxiety card mate.
You could argue given his lack of match practice, if he plays they will want him to play as much game time as possible.
This really is black and white if the shoulder is structurally sound Ablett will play and if it isn't he will continue the rehab process and will play when it is 100%. For you to infer that Ablett will play RD 1 because of his pride even if the shoulder isn't right is one of the more ridiculous things I have ever read. Mate he dislocated his shoulder a relatively common injury don't overplay the psychology!! You state that Gary being proud is why he wants to play?? Do you not think this same pride will meant that there is no way in hell he will accept being subbed. Get a grip mate.

throttlefinger

Matt, your reasoning is sound to you. I think it's faulty in many places. Too many to parse. We differ. That won't change.

He had reconstructive surgery. Siting that it was "a dislocated shoulder" tells me you are light on the facts. If I was overthinking it, then you must be at the opposite end.

With that said, the best to you this season. Hope next time we speak you are in a better mood.

Matt

The shoulder was dislocated that is an indisputable fact. – which required it to be reconstructed to tighten the joint. Not an uncommon procedure and one that results in the joint being tighter than ever before.
I note he has been declared a certain this week? Do you honestly think GC would risk playing the best player in the comp against as you rightly point out an average Melbourne side (who they can likely beat without Ablett) if he wasn't 100% fit and confident in the rehab. Given he is playing I think it is fair to presume that as a result of a faultless pre-season running wise that Gazza will be playing his normal role and won't be donning the sub vest. Who knows what he will score, but good luck without the little champ.

throttlefinger

Ribeye not bribery. Damn my eyes!

FootyFanatic

Haha, just go with your gut decision Throttlefinger! That's what I'm doing

Squawking_Hawk

Fantastic podcast lads. Usually if you are going to fork out $550k plus it is on a premium that you are confident is going to be top 6 in the their respective line at the end of the season. As we don't know how the rucks are going to go this year with the points change should we be considering mid price rucks with a view to upgrading once we know the impacts? I.e Bellchambers and Lycett or Naitanui

Kev

Well we do kinda know, SH. If you got your hands on the JR magazine there was a fab article that outlined what the top rucks would have scored in 2015 with the changes based on their 2014 stats.

Set and forget is my strategy. I loath wasting trades on my rucks.

Josh

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FearTheBeard

I'd really appreciate a few people to give me some comments on the team I currently have and a few questions.

I'm running with

Shaw, Murphy, Newnes, Goodes, Oxley, Saad, McIntosh, Hamling

Pendles, Fyfe, Beams, Parker, Wines, Griffen, Crips, CEY, Heeney, Miler, Krak

Goldstein, Maric

Gray, Bartel, Martin, Salem, Clark, Lambert, Daniel, Lamb

My main questions is do I lock in Selwood and downgrade Dusty or Bartel to Swan.

Do I run Selwood over Pendles?

I'm happy with rucks, and defendes as long as 2 rookies play. Forward line I'm satisfied with other then if I run Swan or go for the 3 prems in Gray, Bartel, Martin.

Cheers guys.

FearTheBeard

Any comments guys? Some help would be appreciated.

Throttlefinger

Hey FTB. Like your team as it stands.

For me, Pendles is a must. Consistent 120+ player. Selwood is great and may break 120 this year but hasn’t done it yet. Would stuck with the proven over the speculative.

That said, I think you could give yourself some cash and flexibility by either downgrading Dusty to Swan or downgrading Bartel to Swan. Recommend the former over the latter.

Hope that helps. And good luck this season, Beard.

FearTheBeard

Thanks Throttlefinger, I really appreciate the time to answer.

I have thought about downgrading Dusty to Swan (to be honest I had it as that before my love for Dusty brought him in) also rotated him a bit with Buddy though at the moment I just think Dusty will rip in. Though Swan will surely pull 90-100 week in week out 100k less.

The question is if I did bring Swan back in for Dusty where do I spend the 100k? My rucks are set. Mid is set unless I change Beams to GAJ, which i'm thinking I'll run the week or 2 to see him play.

The defenders I could upgrade Murphy to Malk though other then that Goodes with 100k+ only gets Ibbo or someone so I can't see where to spend that 100k from Dusty? Any thoughts on that?

shane

You squeeze an exrra 80k on top and add TBC to the forward line

IMHO

FearTheBeard

Shane who is TBC?

shezza

To Gaj or to not Gaj….is the question. It is a massive no from me. The same principal as the lads with their ruck theory. I figure D mackenzie will be playing by the time Gaj is flying so sell a mid pricer and newton or Cripps

SCaddict

The great man is a wait and see for me even if he gets up for round 1 which seems likely at this point.

Not having played a single NAB game surely has to exact a cost in the first few games. There's also always that small chance he bangs that shoulder again or even gets selectively vested in the 2nd half against the Dees, as a precautionary measure, if the Suns are already well in control of the game.

FootyFanatic

How many keepers does everybody have in there team? I have 13 not including Newnes who some would see as a keeper.

throttlefinger

12 excluding Newnes and including Swan.

General Soreness

This is me too!

Marco_Polo94

It will be either 12 or 13 at this stage.

@t_woof

Nice FootyFanatic!!

12 excluding Newnes.

kevwal

Is Karakour on the senior list?
14 including Newnes, he will average 90+.

James

Hi everyone,

I have been struggling with my team for the last couple of days. Come you please help me out because I feel that my team isn't quite right yet.

DEFENDERS: Shaw, Newnes, Higgins, Ibbotson, Henderson, Saad, Edwards, McKenzie

MIDFIELDERS: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Selwood, Griffen, Cripps, Heeney, Vandenburg, Ellis-Yolmen, Freeman, Lambert

RUCKS: Natanui, Leuenberger, Brooksby

FORWARDS: Goddard, Martin, Westhoff, Swan, Salem, Blease, Daniels, Krakouer

Thanks

General Soreness

Westhoff is highly speculative and not a great starting option, he is a corrective trade if needed. Blease is not Cats best 22 there are better options forward. I would downgrade Westhoff and upgrade Luenberger.

Reed

G'day community.

After listening to the podcast, I'm not too sure on my structure and Mumford. Would like peoples thoughts

Shaw, Gibson, Newnes, KK, Saad, Oxley, Hamling, McIntosh
Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Beams, Griffin, Newton, Cripps, Ellis-Yolmen, Vandenberg, Miller, Steele
Mumford, Goldstein, Read
Gray, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clark, Lambert, Hogan, Lonie

1. I picked Mumford because he will have a great year if he keeps fit, but I'm unsure wether to downgrade him to Maric and upgrade a backline rookie to Goodes.
2. I'm having doubts about Pendles, without Beams around him now, I don't see Collingwood winning many games, which will effect his scoring.
3. Was wondering if having 2 on-field rookies is too much, or do I downgrade Mumford and get Goodes so I have a D5 structure.
4. Just general thoughts on the rest of my team.

Cheers Community, good luck for the SC Season!

General Soreness

Rucks are solid mate, your call on Mummy or Maric, both solid selections. Goodes and KK both speculative, chose the one that you think will produce the most points for each $$ your spending on them. My backline has three onfield rooks. Your team is solid.

mick

great side ??? on newton vandenberg lonie and the overweight swan

General Soreness

Great podcast as always gents, looking forward to the Xmas Eve, Wednesday night podcast post ASADA ruling and all. I am going to not mention the GAJ talk as it remains very divisive.

One question I must ask for those advocating TBC as "insurance". What makes you think he will produce a career best average "this year" and what is your plan if your insurance goes down injured? Wouldn't the better insurance to be pick ruckman priced to maintain or better proven averages then if the go down, select a performing ruck or is this just too simplistic?

Marco_Polo94

He's a good insurance policy for our dangerous ruck situation in my opinion. His career high average will hopefully come because he is the number 1 ruck, and in the past when he has been the number one he has averaged 80-odd (can't remember exactly). He's my F4 so if he goes down I can downgrade to a rookie or find some cash and upgrade to a fallen premium hopefully. Best case scenario is he stays fit all season and he becomes a bench player!

Throttlefinger

Why is it “dangerous”? All due respect Marco my man but that seems making things a bit too dramatic. Every line has unpredictability and risk.

Following your logic though, wouldn’t you be bringing that dangerous situation into your forward line, as TBC is very injury prone? That and thinking just because he’s #1 ruck he’ll score 85-90 is hoping for a lot.

Marco_Polo94

True, very true. He's a massive risk no question there. Big POD if he comes off tho because so many people are scared to grab him. High risk high reward. In saying that he's no lock and my plums may shrink by the time round 1 is upon us aha

dognino

I always come back to one stat for TBC , avg 9.8 games a season over his career, 13.5 games a season over the last 4 years. The so called insurance policy is more likely to go down before any other rucks he's supposed to cover.

Josh

Hey Community would love your thoughts on my team
Malceski, Shaw, Gibson, Newnes, Hamling, Saad ( Oxley, Mcintosh)
Ablett, Fyfe, Selwood, Kennedy, Griffen, Cripps, Cockatoo, Heeney ( Vandenberg, Elis-Yolmen, Miller)
Maric, Minson (Read)
Deledio, Zorko, Swan, Salem, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Lambert)

Nash

Brett Goodes of Kad Kolodjashnij??

Phil

Goodes is a no brainer for mine. KK is playing on a wing it looks like he is gonna get a lot of uncontested footy. He will need to use it well to score well I reckon. Might be one of those choices were it won't hurt if you have him and won't hurt if you don't

SCaddict

Goodes will be very hard to knock back if named on Thursday as we all know what he produced in 2013 when given a proper opportunity.

Thumper is an attractive pick as well so like Pieman both are very viable selections, only if Goodesy is named of course.

I N Pieman

Interesting pod gents. Must say im not a fan of Wayno's pick of Membrey over Mitch Clark. Suicide pick for mine. His pick of Clancee Pearce having been tagger for the last 2 is fraught with danger. Hoping Ross will be nice to you has been the downfall of many. The Geary selection I don't mind. But hoping Daniel Rich will deliver a sizable average & cash injection is wishful thinking.

Marco_Polo94

What's the go with Robbie Tarrant? Big vest candidate or solid forward rookie?

shezza

He is playing in defence and will play all games all bar injury

Phil

I've got him Marco bit of a pod with massive potential, very injury prone. Apparently he's gonna take Grima's position and he's been a regular scorer in the 80's. Not saying Robbies gonna do that, but the opportunity is certainty there

Jay

584477 – fill it up

Ruffles

Great podcast once again fellas!

Getting very close now so would love some feedback on my team, as it currently stands. Rookies all subject to change following teams for round 1.

Def: H Shaw, J Gibson, J Newnes, H Lumumba, N Brown, J Hamling Emg: L Dalgeish, A Saad

Mid: G Ablett, S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, R Griffin, A Swallow, P Cripps, B Newton, I Heeney Emg: C Ellis-Yolmen, T Miller, K Lambert

Ruck: T Goldstein, W Minson Emg: T Read

Fwd: J Bartel, D Martin, D Swan, T Bellchambers, C Salem, M Clark Emg: J Hogan, N Krakauer

Comments:
– Unsure on D4, which is currently Lumumba. Also considering KK, Goodes, Ibbotson.
– Griffin and tag risk
– Improved scoring for Gibson with acquisition of Frawley..? Like Simpson and his early draw.
– Can Minson return to 2013 form?
– F1. Bartel atm but do we trust NAB and see him in the midfield more often? I like Deledio but don't think I can afford Gray.
– Bellchambers… Essendon player… No. 1 ruck so should improve price and be stepping stone / early ruck coverage.

Any thoughts / comments would be greatly appreciated! Cheers.

Phil

Ruffles I don't reckon Lumumba is a bad pick but I think Goodes is a very good one.
Griffen will get tagged, but has in the past too and still given pretty good scores. (I'm ignoring some of his early games last year where he was clearly injured)
I reckon Gibson will improve his scores, but Simpson does have a good draw. They are my D1-2
Not sure about Minson, I'll say 100 average.
Trust Bartel. Even his coach said he'll play midfield, even if he doesn't he averages 100+ playing anywhere on the ground.
I like Bellchambers I have him.
Not a biggie but I think your D7 & D8 have better scoring ability than your D5 & D6. Might want to look at that. Otherwise great team!