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Barron Von Crow’s Supercoach Team Reveal 2015

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Barron Von Crow - inner sanctumIt’s reveal time! What you see before you is the work of several weeks of hard work down in the Supercoach Lab, studying and analysing games.

 

As well as numerous readings of the Jock Reynolds magazine, plus madness inducing hours of constant tinkering. So, Jock Reynolds Community, I present to you…

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My structure: Locked and Loaded Midfield (and Rucks)

It’s probably more of a hybrid between a variety of structures, with bit of a mid-priced backline, locked and loaded midfield and a Guns n Rookies forward line all thrown together, but since my mids and rucks are bloody awesome, I’ll call it a Locked and Loaded Midfield.

My strategy:

The hope with this strategy is I will now require minimal upgrades in my midfield, which are always the most expensive. Hopefully this will allow me to upgrade my cheaper lines, the DEF and FWD lines, at a quicker pace b buying top flight players here which may only cost 450-500K, rather than upgrading MID players that potentially cost 600K+. The idea being I will now be able to get to a “Full Premo” side at a quicker pace, than if I had more $ stashed on Premo players in my other lines. It also has the added bonus of scoring more points, with the midfielders always being the area where you get the bulk of your points from. The downside of course is potentially less cash generation in my midfield due to fewer rookies here.

As always, rookie picks are subject to Round 1 selection and this setup leaves me with $28,900 in the bank.

Selections of community debate:

Gary Ablett (MID $734,600)

To Ablett or not to Ablett was my biggest hurdle while making my team, and I originally planned to go without him, but I just can’t bring myself to do it. I may regret it in Round 1 when he gets subbed out on 80 Supercoach Points, but I doubt I’ll be regretting it once we get a few weeks into the season and he’s pumping out massive scores. Of course there is a chance I’ll still change this a million times before the start of Round 1.

Luke Dahlhaus (FWD $492,700)

He was solid last year, averaging 92 and had a pretty good pre-season, averaging 104 over the NAB Challenge. I reckon he can bump his average up to at least 98 this year and have about the same sort of appeal as a Dustin Martin type, who averaged 99 last season.

Patrick Dangerfield (MID $567,600)

This was originally Brad Crouch, but his injury meant I swapped him out for my 2nd favourite Crow. He played a lot forward during the pre-season, which I’m sure he’ll continue to do in the season, but I fully expect him to continue to get a decent load in the midfield too. He’s shown he’s dangerous enough to be able to put up points no matter where he plays. Fingers crossed he’s back to his 2012 type scores.

Kade Kolodjashnij (DEF $367,600)

Averaged 68 last year and bumped it up to 82 during the pre-season, and he had it from 3 solid scores of 84, 82 and 79, rather than some other mid-priced options, who wildly fluctuated, scoring 100 one game, followed by a score of 60 the next. I’m aiming for consistency here and that’s exactly the sort of solid and consistent scoring I hope Thumper can bring during the real stuff.

Ollie Wines (MID $539,200)

He’s only going to get better, averaged 100 last year; I’ll be looking for him to boost it up to at least 108. Having guys like Gray, Boak, Hartlett and Ebert around him mean he should be able to avoid the tag as well, which is a big bonus.

What’s nagging at me:

Defensive structure

I don’t think I’ll be the only one sweating this line; I’ve got Heath Shaw who is trouble waiting to happen and Jack Newnes as my only decent defenders. Starting 2 on-field rookies is making me nervous here, so I’ll be doing plenty of praying to the Supercoach Gods that they play every game and score at a decent clip.

F4 to F8 Players

I’ve had to settle for rookie priced options up forward here and there is a decent chance that these guys will under-perform or be hit with sub vests. If that happens, I could look at getting minimal points and cash generation from this line, which I’ll need since I have 1 less rookie in the midfield than I usually do.

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Rock-MAN

Adam Saad be okay to start on the field? Or Dagliesh?

@TylerCArmstrong

Saad will most likely start, not sure on Dagliesh, it all depends on what happens with the Bombers and ASADA. Good signs from him though in the NAB.

Ninja

Agree, if things go south for the bombers, BAM! You’ll be seeing Dagliesh’s selection % sky-rocket

Chuck

Love the team mate!
I'm backing danger in aswell. Hoping that he'll bring back those 2012 scores.

Clayton

Not worried about contract hanging over his head? Only thing holding me back

Patch

Very interesting Barron! A bit different to what I've been seeing, but this year will be nothing but diverse. Love the Dahlhaus pick, and I'm with you on Wines. Beast in the making.

I'm not a fan of Henderson. There are those either up (Langdon, Ibbotson) or down (Jaksch, Goodes) who I feel will get the job done better than him, but that's a personal thing. You've done your research.

deanos

Quite like your team. I, too have gone with Dangerfield in the mids as I feel he is completely underpriced, but I also have Griffin.

I am taking a punt on Bontempelli over Dahlaus as the high half forward/midfielder which absolutely breaks out this season. There is no way he will suffer from the 2nd year blues.

@TylerCArmstrong

You reckon Bonts will make 100?

deanos

I reckon he'll average around 95 and he's priced @ 420,000. He's my F4 at the moment.

deanos

Bevo has already said he's going to "let him loose" this season, and the bloke is a beast. Dahlhaus is Zorko v2.0 in my opinion.

Danners16

Looks good Baz! I brought in Dangerfield for Crouch as well and I reckon he could get back up and going again. Going to be hard to find a captain for the round 12 bye though with 4 premiums out. Otherwise a pretty good solid team

BCHawks

Great team Barron completely different to mine but I love it! Do you still think Naitanui is a solid pick?

@TylerCArmstrong

In the same boat mate. Until he played average in the NAB, I Just had him locked in like everyone else without thinking about it. Really not sure now.

Dean

Barron what about going in with Goldy & Minson rather then Nic Nat?

Dools

Great team BVC very different but I like Different and excellent call on Goodes looks like you got Maric now eh?

FootyFanatic

I like your structure and reckon it's my favourite one yet out of the team reveals.

Jonathan

Definetly agreed FotoyFanatic. Good job Barron, good luck this year

KJU FC

Love the team BVC! Do you see Henderson as a keeper or cash generation to a premo? I've been flirting with him in and out of my side all summer

Swans2012

Im the same, I thibk I’m leaning towards savage though for an extra 50 k. Don’t think you can go wrong really though at his price. Would love to hear Barron’s opinion on him

r2d2

My fav reveal so far mate ,, but maybe 1 premo short in def , 1 too many in mid ,,, but solid team !! Good luck !

@TylerCArmstrong

Nice team Barron! What's your reasoning for selecting Nic Nat?

Bontemgasmic

Nice team BVC

I have gone a bit stronger down back and up forward rather than in the Mids but not too dissimilar to mine.

I guess you have gone off Clancee due to tagging duties and moved to Hendo, Are you not concerned with his limited pre-season?

LEKD0G

Dalhaus re-signed for 3 years today, can only be a good thing

@TylerCArmstrong

Lek, even more torn on Nic Nat now. Originally had him out. Now i'm reconsidering him. Help!

Dee

SOLID…. Thumper and Gray are absolute LOCKS.

@TylerCArmstrong

Not sure if Thumper is a lock. I would only consider him a lock if I thought he would average 90.

Derek

Suns have a great start to season, might see him go ok

@TylerCArmstrong

Yeah, I can see him averaging around 80.

Dee

What's your plans Round 12 when Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe and Parker have a bye?

Ben

G'day community is Cripps a must in your midfield is he worth it?

@TylerCArmstrong

Absolute lock Ben. A must have.

Derek

He is the Tyson and Polec of 2014

Phil

Nothing more important than opportunity for these young players Ben, the first thing I look at is who has left, or who is injured at his club. In other words, who's spot can he take. The Blues have lost McLean, Robinson & Lucas from that midfield which makes him a lock. The fact that he is a first round draft pick is the icing on the cake. Throw away the key!

Chicko

Love it BVC, Dalhaus a significant POD!

keenbutclueless

taking Ablett out of course can take away your biggest fears. Putting a rook in mid means you can take Hogan to a Martin/Zorko type and take a rook in Def to Premo (maybe Hendo might need to go down to a Jaksch/Goodes type.)
Round 12 is a big problem also – top 4 mids all out.
I think NicNat is a risk also – hard to get a Plan B here – really only Minson if you hang onto the cash.

Sana

Taking Ablett out doesn’t eliminate fears, it should make one fearful of SC death at the hands of the SC god himself.

keenbutclueless

haha! Replacing one set of fears with another

Northerner

Like the team Baron. I'm in the camp that Griffen will take the tag heat at GWS and we will see that only benefit Callan Ward. have a think about Pendles to him as the pies go backwards this year – as Ward would get you from nic nat to Maric.

Marco_Polo94

I thought about removing pendles for that reason, however he still scored 120 points against bulldogs and pies got absolutely destroyed that game. So i don't see his scores being lower than usual.

Phil

When you have 10 midfielders in your team it's hardly possible to not have 4 missing in the one week. And if it is, is worth sacrifing Ablett, Fyfe, Pendlebury or Kenndedy/Parker for?

@TylerCArmstrong

Dont advertise on the page please.

Jizcon

Solid team bvc love the def structure headin in with the same rookies back there will b hard to pick better to pick blokes who will improve n generate abit of cash then roll in with donuts early when by the bye rounds it’ll be easier to pick the standout defenders

GJ

Great team BVC, would love to get Ollie into my team but don't know if I can. It would mean culling Griff, which im not prepared to do just yet.
Anyway, I have 593k, one midfield spot to fill and no Gazza. What should I do???
1) Pick a keeper like Lewis, (premium output, 0k in the bank, no trade to Ablett)
2) Pick a fallen star like Swallow/Judd (near premium output, 90/110k in the bank, some cash generation, trade to Ablett mid-season)
3) Pick a mid pricer like Rich/Hallahan (80pt ish output, 245/280k in the bank, good cash generation, trade to Ablett early-mid season)
4) Pick a rookie like Freeman (F), with Cripps/Newton (CN) to be used in the trade (65pt ish output (F), 470k in the bank, great cash generation (CN), trade to Ablett quite early in the season (CN))

Any advice would be appreciated, and would be really helpful

@TylerCArmstrong

Option 3 with Judd, But you would want to trade him pretty quickly for gaz. Also I would invest that 110k in another area of the field. And downgrade someone in the same week as when you upgrade juddy to gaz so you can afford it.

Gregorovich

Like the Wines selection! Who would be a better pick, him or neale??? I'll be going for Neale because I he's 60k cheaper, but I reckon both will average about 100

@TylerCArmstrong

I think Wines will average approximately 107 and Neale 100. So Wines for me.

Ben

G'day community is it worth trading Cripps for Wells and boost up some of my other lines

@TylerCArmstrong

Get Cripps

Marco_Polo94

Keep cripps.

Northerner

absolutely. first rookie selected after Clark

Marco_Polo94

Interesting team barron, i like it. I love these team reveals showing no matter how much of an elite super coacher you are everyone has different opinions and structures. Nic Nat is an interesting one. He is in and out of my team atm.. proven premium but jee his nab performance worried me. I'm also starting to think twice on my decision to switch Swan for Mitchell, everyone appears to have swan….

splinter

love the dalhuas selection, will dominate this year

Northerner

I am developing a really bad habit of picking guys a year early. Had Parker in 2013 as an example, Had Dalhaus last year, so for your sake hope the profile continues! This year I have gone Neale and Bont. Probably a sucker for the emerging talent.

Throttlefinger

Well done Barron!

Absolutely love the call on Thumper. Going back and forth on him but the potential is evident.

Will be interesting how much this side changes if you don’t go Gaz.

Ben

Rate this team highly, would probably go with griff over wines myself though.
and could really thicken the defense but ditching Pendles maybe? huge call but.

Northerner

Wines is an extractor who won't cop the tag. We know Griff can deal with the tag, but it keeps his average down. I have both, but Wines for me as well.

tom

Bartel or Swan?
can upgrade Touk Miller to Newton with Swan

Northerner

Bartel with midfield time will be tremendous

PreviouslyOnLost

Love it Baron. We have very similar structures, just a few different players.

Motsy

Gday Barron.

Just wondering why you’ve gone for kolo over say a Higgins?

Cheers

Love the team

Tyler

I luv u BVC , like the team , best out of all of you team revealers so far , lots risks in there tho , could work too!? . Thoughts on Mitch Duncan and will McCinnes from wce start ? Cheers

Northerner

Fraser McInnes v unlikely. Also, Callum Sinclair when fit is ahead of him

Peter Rabbit

Who 's Thumper ?

Damon

Love It Barron!
Similar team to mine in terms of players but i go with an extra mid pricer in teh fwd and def
juat thinking i will got more points from AFL proven players than i will with the new boys
thoughts?

keenbutclueless

Question for you BVC – I notice that you have Reade as R3. I understand the rationale – Geelong's draw early make him a nice VC loophole. The other part of that rationale is the DPP status. What I don't understand is – if its only the VC loophole, why not use Lucey instead? By going in with 2 premos in the ruck – do you intend to get a DPP swing later (Ryder maybe)? At what point will you consider getting that player in?

K-Sizzle

1 position in defence left with $473,000

I have Shaw, Johnson and Yarran + rookie scum

My mind is telling me no but my mouse finger says Lumumba and $56,000 in the bank.

Newnes and Higgins scare me because saints suck and Higgins will be amongst the deepest of kangas teams, which will bounce his scores up and down until he injures himself and makes us throw away a trade……

Community I need your help, I don't need this money elsewhere and I really think a decently expensive 4 deep defence will set my team apart in round 1.

Gordo

newnes mate ample midfield time

Tony

I'd be going Newnes. Think the hype has been warranted and think he will see enough midfield time to score well. The 'Gift" has been impressive during NAB but when it's all said and done that doesn't change the fact that I couldn't bring myself to barrack for the flog. Couldn't have him wearing my stripe!

craig

not having newnes has become a significant POD and one which I am happy to take

Sarah

Think back to last year… if Newnes turns out to be the backline D Swallow of 2015, would you be happy NOT having him as a POD??? Cos that's what he's looking like.

Andy

I know you gotta take a punt somewhere but that backline is trouble waiting to happen. Would keep one of Danger/Wines, downgrade the other and use the cash to get a 'premium' in the backs. Just to shore it up a little. Guessing it'll change again after March 31st anyway.

r2d2

What put you off titch mate ? Scored near on 70 from 45 pc game time last nab game ,, you think he high vest candidate ? I personally think Heeney will get vest , they were just seeing if he was best 22 in nab (Heeney that is )

Dave

Who would you drop to get Dangerfield in, Cripps, Anderson, Heeney, Vanderberg, Ellis-Yolmen or Steele?

Dave

Exactly what i was thinking, cheers mate.

Northerner

Injury to Hoskin-Elliot could give Steele reasonable 6 week+ js. Think if he plays, he will score more than some other forward rooks. Hoping rd 1 he's named. 2 years ago Clarkson said pre-season,"Not many would know the name of Jed Anderson, but give it a few weeks and that will change" or something along those lines. I think he's better than most are thinking and will be the Langford this year.

Jock

Wonderful arrangement of Supercoach horseflesh Bazzlington. Really like this mate. Love the Wines, Henderson and Dahlhaus selections especially. Definitely has more than a touch of shark about it – wonderful mate

Ben

Interested in your thoughts on Tom Mitchell can he produce this year?

Phil

3 great sides so far lads I've got absolutely no idea who's is the best, wait and see I guess. A couple of things I've noticed similar between the 3;
1.Not really any Essendon players. Would I be right in assuming you guys don't wanna be making any last minute changes particularly structurally after March 31?
2.Heath Shaw in all 3 teams. Good history? Patful inclusion to improving side?

I feel your team is the riskiest out of the 3, although most would probably say Lekdog for starting 3 defence rookies but I reckon that might work. By riskiest I by no means mean the worst.

derek

Shaw is fully priced. As GWS get better, the SC points will get shared more. Shaw won't be getting any mid-field time and I'm always worried about when he gets a tag, he will score 32SC.

Simpson plays as an extra mid-fielder, never is taged and hardly ever misses a game.

Josh

Hi guys,

Need to get rid of one of;

Lambert/Miller/Heeney/Anderson from the MIDS
and one of Karnezis/Lonie/Krakour from the FWDS

Which 2 shall I cull?

Northerner

Respect that call. I'd go both K's out – I have a view Anderson is the pace to complement Hill in a midfield that has not been overly quick – a dimension that will add to a premiership defence

Northerner

Pitty he is last game of Rd 1 so we can't get the week 1 test of the starting vest.

derek

I think the Hawks have got a green vest with just Anderson's name on it, I hear he has been told to take it home after each game and wash it.

Dram

What about both Karnezis and Krakour out and move Lambert to the FWDS

Ethan

Heard a lot about jaksch in recent time, just wondering if he would be a good mid-price pick or not to generate some cash and eventually trade him out for a more premium type defender, along with the likes of Goodes?

Dave

Gibson J, Johnson M, Taylor H, Sheppard B, Goodes B, Brown N, Saad A, Dalgeish L

Pendlebury S, Fyfe N, Beams D, Dangerfield P, Wines O, Neale L, Cripps P, Heeney I,
Vandenberg A, Ellis-Yolmen C, Steele J

Naitanui N, Wood C, O'Brien R

Gray R, Swan D, Bontempelli M, Towers D, Clark M, Karnezis P, Salem C, Lambert K

$81,300 left. Thoughts ?

Dave

I was thinking Sheppard to Newnes but not really sure 🙂

Northerner

Sheppard was not best 22 last year. As a WCE supporter, I hope he steps up, but far from confident. Can't see him being a keeper. If Goodes upgraded my view is he is a better launch pad. Whilst I don't have Goodes in my team I am looking at him as my Ablett strategy. If he delivers with -ve BE in first 2 and is on the bubble I will use one of my underperforming D's to then upgrade Neale to Ablett shortly thereafter. I am very fortunate I also live in Brisbane and get to see GA run around every second week. I have things etched in my memory you do not get from watching on a screen. Very privileged. I remember the first game after his shoulder and pre game there was something different in the air – realised I lacked the anticipation of watching what marvellous thing he would get up to that evening.

And yes, despite this, I can't bring myself to start him with the injury doubt.

Ben

Will James Kelly finish in the top 5 defenders this year?

Northerner

I have been asking myself the same question. Scott has talked about beefing up his midfield, but my view is Bartel will be the one who benefits most with a Geelong FWD line that suddenly looks scary.

An interesting POD choice in Geelong is Motlop who appears to have worked on his tank and I think will also benefit, but we are talking big risk here.

Slatsy

I’ve got Vandenberg in the mids at the moment but I’m seeing Lamb everywhere. Who’s more likely to get games?
Could swing lambert into the mids to get Lamb if he’she’s a better pick

Tom

I have to say I don't understand the obsession with Heath Shaw. In my opinion Kade Simpson (for example) is a far more reliable option. In the last three years, although Shaw has averaged more than Simpson (96.9 to 94.8), Simpson has outscored Shaw by 643 points as he has played an extra 8 games (63 to 55). As the name of the game is total points not average scores this makes a big difference.
Shaw has missed 30 games over the past 7 seasons, an average of more than 4 per year. Simpson by comparison has missed just 3 over the past 9 years (all as a result of a Sharrod Wellingham induced broken jaw that he took just 3 weeks to return from).
I know who I'll be picking this year

Tom

And funnily enough the next 5 posts all have Shaw in their team and not one has Simpson…

derek

Simpson was in my first draft team, and has not moved. locked.

OldOcker

This old bloke has exactly the same opinion.

dave

Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Goodes, Oxley, saad

GAJ, Rockliff, pendles, fyfe, selwood, griffen, anderson, ellis yolman

Jacobs, Goldstein

Gray, swan, salem, clark, karzenis, Hogan

Thoughts?

dave

sorry martin instead of swan

Gordo

not a fan of karzenis. in my opinion i would downgrade rocky or ablett to upgrade him

Gordo

hey would love your thoughts made a few changes after reading this would love your thoughts
DEF shaw newness rampe savage goodes brown (goddard saad)
MID pendelbury fyfe selwood griffen wallis newton cripps vandenberg (heeney cey lambert)
RUCKS maric nat (cox)
FWD goddard martin swan bonty salem clark (hogan daniel)
217600 hoping that plus wallis will get me to ablett after a couple price changes
would love some feedback

Ben

Gordo are you confident in Wallis I'm considering him

Gordo

the only thing worrying me is the tagging role but i reckon they will let him roam free, i had enough to swap him straight to ablett but have used that to upgraded luenberger to maric and bellchambers to bonty and downgraded ibbo to goodes

Northerner

Maric, Bont, Goodes v your outs – tremendous trade IMO

Booma

With Beveridge taking over at the kennel, dogs will try to implement a hawks mentality in DEF. Hawks don’t run to many taggers..

Jacob

Def: Shaw, Taylor, Newnes, Higgins, Brown, Saad (McIntosh, Hamling)

Mid: Ablett, Fyfe, Beams, Parker, Griffen, Wells, Cripps, CEY (Heeney, Vandenberg, Miller)

Ruc: Goldstein, Maric (Cox)

Fwd: Gray, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clarke, Lambert (Hogan, Lamb)

Thoughts?

Gordo

solid team

Josh

Hi guys so this s what I've come up with (version 1,000,000)

DEFENDERS
1. Shaw, H
2. Gibson, J
3. Taylor, H
4. Goodes, B
5. Oxley, A
6. McIntosh, K
7. Edwards, S
8. Saad, A

MIDFIELDERS
9. Ablett, G
10. Pendlebury, S
11. Fyfe, N
12. Lewis, J
13. Griffen, R
14. Newnes, J
15. Cripps, P
16. Ellis-Yolmen, C
17. Heeney, I
18. Miller, T
19. Lambert, K

RUCKS
20. Goldstein, T
21. Minson, W
22. Cox, M

FORWARDS
23. Gray, R
24. Swan, D
25. Bontempelli, M
26. Bellchambers, T
27. Salem, C
28. Clark, M
29. Lonie, J
30. Krakouer, N

Any comments appreciated – Josh

randomcliche

Goodes not yet upgraded. I don't thinnk Krak did either. Move Newnes to defence and bring in Newton. Maybe Lamb forward. You don't have enough Mid/Def swings to really warrant putting one in the Mid IMO.

randomcliche

Subject to Essendon shenanigans. Very good def options there.

Yout

Krakouer wasn't elevated, look at hogan or lamb to replace If you have the cash

Kev

Take Newnes out of your mids and put him at D2/3. Personally not a fan of TBC but that's your call

Northerner

Lot's to like about this team. Solid mids. Agree don't waste mid position on Newnes – can you upgrade him up to Neale or Judd? Like the defence. Understand TBC, but consider downgrade to rookie if not named and then Swan to Bartel and Newnes to above?

jmy7

So sorry about clogging up the chat with my team but please comment, needing some reasuring!!!
DEF: shaw, gibson, johnson, newnes, mcintosh, hamling (goddard, saad)
MID: Fyfe, selwood, jpk, priddas, wines, rich, cripps, heeney (v'berg, ellis-yolmen, miller)
RUC: goldy, maric (o'brien)
FWD: Martin, zorko, swan, salem, clark, lamb (steele, lambert) $59'800 dosh left
this time of year gets you bloody nervous!??

Ethan

Looks good, unsure on m.johnson's point generation down back, although has proven to score before he is getting older and may be utilised as more of a lock down defender type, could look at Lumumba as a downgrade option.

also I'm not sold on d.rich at the price he is he would need to have a very good start to the year to generate a good amount of cash(avg around 85-90) to rise his price to about 450k just think he will be managed coming back from injury and now having the stacked Brisbane midfield that they do have, may only get a few minutes a quarter in there could look to downgrade to the likes of Newton and use the cash somewhere else. Other than that team looks very solid

randomcliche

Big hugs. Oh, v'berg out (not upgraded yet I don't think). Not sure on Goddard not named for nab 3. Maybe N.Brown. The risks and uncertainty around the rookies comes with the reward and cash generation of your GnR strategy. Hugs and reassurance until the naming days.

@emhoy

Wondering why I am seeing so many teams without Ben Newton, am I missing something. He looked great in nab cup?

Kev

For many Cripps is getting the nod for the 200k midfielder spot. Nothing wrong with Newton though

LEKD0G

Newton's points per minute were quite high averaging over 100 for 80% game time

Lewis

Thoughts on L.Jong?

Gordo

i reckon he will tag (well hoping so he frees up wallis

craig

can't see him tagging i rate him a solid pick. go with your guts lewis

Ben

Community Mitch Wallis or Daniel Wells? I'm running on the end of my salary and hope Wallis can have a great year!

Gordo

I'm going with wallis at this stage

Jacob

I'm thinking Wells is the safer and more reliable pick. He's a proven 95+ averaging Mid so he'd guarantee a bit of coin creation.

Swans2012

I see it as wells being the safer pick (good team will continue his 90-95 average) but wallis with griff and liba out has more potential x factor upside. Who knows, if he’s off the tagging leash which I think he is, he could end up being a 105 average mid with the extra points available and his penchant for contested ball.

Swans2012

That said in going with the wells safe bet 😉

Connor

Love your team here BVC, favourite reveal so far…

I was wondering, is this too much spent for the ruck combo?

Mumford ($613k), Goldstein ($574k)

Should I downgrade Mumford to say.. Maric? Free up cash elsewhere..

Thoughts appreciated

Ethan

I'd say you can't go wrong in downgrading Mummy to maric, I have the maric Goldstein combo currently along with Bellchambers up forward as a swingman for the bye rounds.

dannyyboyy

i think its fine wanting to take the best in the ruck as long as you are happy with the strength of your side through each line. im taking jacobs and goldy, simply because i think they will be the best output, and they should hopefully both play the 22 games. im not to fussed about a swingman either because as long as you pick two rucks with different bye rounds the maximum amount of players you are gonna miss for that particular round is one, so i can just pick up the slack with the other lines. also if one goes down with an injury you can afford any other dominant ruckman for a straight swap.

two premiums, then set and forget is my advice

randomcliche

I'm not sure either @emhoy. My delema is Newton vs Wallis. In a midprice madness setup. Thoughts?

Kev

I like the Dahlhaus pick but feel is too high at F2. For the sake of team balance I feel you could drop one of Parker/Danger/Wines for a rook and bring in Deledio/Dusty/Bartel for Hogan/Daniel without sacrificing a large amount of points. The benefits are twofold. An extra mid rookie to generate cash and it also addresses your F4-8 concerns

Rocksta

Can somebody please explain this Rookie elevation process to me?

I’ve got Brett Goodes in my backline, and I reckon he’s a bloody Good pick at that price ( pardon the pun).

The thing is, he hasn’t been elevated off the a Rookie lust yet. Wasn’t Tuesday just gone the deadline?

Rocksta

Rookie List that is!

What do I do?

underdone

looking at all the team reveals so far all seem to have stronger midfields than mine which is causing me some concern. All teams have pendles and i do not (no ablet either, most expensive player – Fyfe) I'm not prepared to drop any of the mids i have locked in already. the only option i would consider to join you fine gentlemen in obtaining pendlebury is to drop lumumba in def and downgrade to a rookie (which I'm happy to do) and upgrade swan (who is in my midfield and planed to move down to fwd when traded out fwd rookie) to pendles. My question to the community is do we see swan as been a definite top 6 fwd? if he might slip outside the top 6 then it might be worth the move.

I see bartell, gray, martin and bontempelli as all averaging higher but can't think of anyone else. Based on that i can't see a fwd line at the end of the season without swan and therefore locking him in now is far better then upgrading later?

underdone

add delidio and boomber to that list and i have my 6 but is it worth the loss in cash generation

Leighroy

If you think swan will be a top 6 lock him in now as he will only go up. Evan if he say finishes as 8th best forward we are only talking 1 to 2 point average diff every game and that loss will be covered by pendlebury selection over lamumba selection. All depends on what you think swan will average and compare the point difference from having rookie defender, pendlebury, swan vs lamumba, rookie forward and swan

Northerner

Your still sold on White? Point scoring capacity? Keen to hear your thoughts and wisdom – thanks

Dools

Womby why are you so hard to track down bro? and why has your comment been taken down…..

Lewis

Opinion on Tom McDonald of melbourne looks to have posted good 95+ scores for preseason with a good tackle, possession and mark count, do you think he will be to much of a key defender to consider as a lock down back?

Jack

Who should I have at m 4 Parker or Lewis

Northerner

Big fan of Parker. Can't go wrong though

RobDog

Great team Baron. Also have Hendo in my side, but am looking at Rory Laird. Crouch out, Jaensch to come back, and Laird has been moving through the midfield with a good NAB, but dropped off a bit with the Port game. What do you think?

RobDog

Cheers Barron

Andy

Nice team! I really like Parker and Wines. I had Parker last year and he never disappointed.

On another note, I’ve made another SC league. Hoping to have a really competitive league. Code is 650775

tommykmoore

Hi Andy,
I've just joined your league mate, hope you dont mind. Also looking for some strong competition!
Cheers!

Ninja

My team has A LOT of the Same players and virtually the exact same midfield.
Won’t be much in it if the Ninjas play ¡Peligro Abejas! early in the league rounds!

JoeWoolcock

Hey all, just on tagging: of these pairs who do you reckon will get the tag more often? Boak/Gray, Macrae/Bontempelli

Kev

Boak/Gray

John

Boak/Macrae but depends on how damaging the others can become

Phil

I reckon Boak will get tagged every week because is very damaging when left alone but can be shut down. I don't think Gray will get tagged because he has an extra string to his bow of being able to play forward. Teams might try to tag him but I suspect Hinkley will isolate him and his tagger deep forward and then they'll go back to Boak.

I reckon Some teams will tag Macrae and some Bonts, more likely Macrae though.

So Boak, Macrae, Bontempelli, Gray in order of most tagged

OldOcker

I have the same opinion as Phil on this one.

Rick Grimes

I am thinking about rolling the dice on Leuy as R2. I figure that he should score around 90. Previously I had Minson in there who I factor might hit around 105 – so a difference of 15. The cash saving I would put into an additional midfield premo in place of a rookie like Newton. Not sure what people expect out of him, but let's say 80 odd, vs a player like Priddis/Sloane who will go 115 – difference of 35.

Is there any merit in this?

Swans2012

I’m running the same sort of theory

Dools

G'day Grimesy,

Rucks are injured you trade out. This year more then any other so go cheap or expensive in the Rucks it does not matter Bomb up on Midfield Premos mate . I do not have Luey I went with Goldmember and Big Ivan but that's just how I see it

Ross

Thoughts on my team? I've gone with Gaz at the moment. But if it doesn't feel right rd1, he will be traded down to Parker, and I will try to shuffle my team to get a M7 so I can quickly upgrade to get Gaz.

This is my team with Gaz

Shaw, Gibson, Newnes, Goodes, Saad, Edwards, Oxley, Hamling
Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Beams, Griffin, Newton, Cripps, Heeney, Vandenberg, Ellis-Yolmen, Miller
Mumford, Goldstein, Read
Gray, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clark, Lambert, Lonie, Steele

$139,600 left in the bank. (Not sure what to do with it)

Without Gaz

Shaw, Gibson, Newnes, Goodes, Saad, Edwards, Oxley, Hamling
Pendlebury, Selwood, Beams, Parker, Griffin, Judd, Newton, Cripps, Vandenberg, Ellis-Yolmen, Miller
Mumford, Goldstein, Read
Martin, Zorko/Dalhaus, Swan, Salem, Clark, Lambert, Lonie, Steele

Thoughts on both teams please

Sana

I like both those teams – I'd probably keep Gray if possible in your second team. Plus Heeney will make cash – I'd consider Ablett to Rocky or Beams?

Ross

In which team are you talking about Sana? I already have Beams in both teams?

Sana

Sorry mate, I'd go with Rocky, I'm liking the cut of Sloane's jib too, seems to be a bit of a premo POD along with JPK

Sana

I've been pondering Henderson all pre-season. Is he definitely in the Crows 22? My questionable defender atm is Lumumba, considering dropping him for Ricky Hendo and re-distributing the cash. Henderson is surely more of a risk, but significantly more? What are people's thoughts?

Dools

Hi Sana, Pick anyone but the "Gift" ANYONE he can't kick , tackle or mark, He is the contender for the BURNMAN BOUGHTON Award 2015.

Beady Eye

So assuming he's in the Crows team, is he worth a spot at our D3/D4 position with Smith talked about as potentially getting more midfield time?

Fluff

Martin or bartel you decide! I'm going to turn into Harvey two face over this.

Dools

Bartel full stop and for emphasis here is some more full stops……………………………………………………………..

Fluff

Lmao……….

derek

Mid-price madness in Defence

I can't find any premiums in Defence this year, not many rookies either, what to do…Mid-price madness!

This is my team:

DEF: Simpson, Newnes, Langdon, Kolodjashnij, McDonald, Ibbotson (Hamling, Saad)

MIDS: Ablett, Pendlebury, JPK, Wines, Griffin, Cripps, (Heeney, Vandenburg, Ellis-Yolmen, Boekhorst, Krakouer)

RUC: Goldstein, Nic Nat (Lucey)

FWD: Gray, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clark, Hogan (Lamb, Lambert)

I had to put Griffin in my team instead of Priddis, even though I've been saying he won't be top 10.

What do people think about my mid-price defence, with Ibbotson (may still become Goodes or C pearce) at D6 ?

derek

if I go Goddes or C Pearce instead of Ibbotson, I can upgrade Boekhorst to Newton

OldOcker

derek, Just between you and me: I have gone the same way in defense, (Mid priced madness)
Have a look at Daniel Merritt (BRL) $284,900 He is capable of 80+ and is playing solely in defense where he belongs this year because they have lost Hanley and Patfull. Played well in nab and is a lock for me at his price. The last couple of years he has been up and down the ground but will play mainly or all defense this year. I do not like Ibbotson at his price.
NOT keen on Goodes or Pearce but that is just my opinion. Has Goodes been elevated?
Boekhorst to Newton sounds good to me.
So does Griffen to Priddis or Sloane.
Cheers bloke.

dognino

Too much spent in defence I think mate, there should be at least 1 rookie that can play on field letting you downgrade one of your mid pricers, then use that cash to turn one of wines or Griffey into an ultra in selwood or fyfe. And enough left over to turn boekhurst into Newton.
Langdons nab numbers didn't really inspire me, was only 70's I think? If that's tom mcdonald , I'm liking the looks of him. 70average from 60 career games, finished last year avg 80 from his last 5, and up around 100 for his 3 nab games, looks like a potential breakout. Only thing I don't like is he plays for Melb .

go pies

6 spots left only if ur serious! 955522.

derek

im serious! in.

The ORF

Seriously, I'm in

Swans2012

In

Dools

I cant join I'm never "that serious!!"

marcus

Am tossing up between a couple of options, would appreciate your comments community!!
Option 1 – Selwood, Newton, Maric, Bartel, Martin
Option 2 – Beams, Neale, Nic Nat, Swan, Bont
What would you guys recommend?
Cheers

zeesus

1

Rawkus11

1

The ORF

Hey Barron,
Mummy, Gibson, R Murphy & VanDenBerg (or similar rookie) vs Nic Nat, Kolo, Henderson & Wines
What do you think?