Barron Von Crow - inner sanctumIts rookie crunch time community!

I’ve put together a spreadsheet which contains all of the rookies that played during the NAB Challenge and how they performed.
And let’s get down to business and select in the polls below which rookies across each line you have slotted into your team right now.
You will need Excel to use this one – but hopefully it will help a lot of you make sense of what we’re faced with rookie wise as we plow towards our first lockout!

 

CLICK HERE FOR THE ROOKIE SPREADSHEET

 (just use the tabs to navigate between the lines)
Use the tabs to navigate between the lines

 

Now lets get to the polls!

DEFENDERS

Which defender rookies (under $200K) are in your current team?

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MIDFIELDERS

Which mid rookies (under $200K) are in your current team?

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RUCKS 

Which ruck rookies (under $200K) are in your current team?

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FORWARDS

Which fwd rookies (under $200K) are in your current team?

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122 Comments

The Ranger · 23/03/2015 at 16:54

Top work Barron!
Outstanding effort, thanks.

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:00

    No problems, Ranger!

      Hollywood5550 · 24/03/2015 at 11:04

      Baron quick Q Why has SC got Blicavs as a DPP (MID/RUCK) when there are no other (MID/RUCK) choices ,am I missing something here???

        MoshedPotatoes · 24/03/2015 at 12:23

        you can trade out a mid then move blicavs to mid and replace him with a new ruck i believe. (no idea why anyone would)

          Hollywood5550 · 24/03/2015 at 13:02

          Surely making him a (RUC/FWD) makes more sense???? Like Hale or Clarke ,
          its dumb having him as a (RUC/MID)

        @BarronVonCrow · 24/03/2015 at 17:43

        I believe it's worked out based on the time they spend in each position. I remember reading somewhere that a player needed to play at least 25% of their TOG in another position in order to gain dual eligibility, so the fact that Blicavs is the only MID/RUCK would probably indicate he's a very unique player!

    PDP · 24/03/2015 at 10:33

    On Sunday, I spent several hours analizing/rating the various rookies and then you go and publish this outstanding piece. The only problem I see is that everyone's Supercoach will be very similar, whereby those who did a little extra homework would reap the gains. Oh well, we will see what happens. Thanks for your outstanding work. It certainly is far more comprehensive than my jottings.

CJay · 23/03/2015 at 17:09

Love your work Barron.

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:00

    Cheers, CJay!

@TylerCArmstrong · 23/03/2015 at 17:22

Great stuff Barron! Any of the community considering Parker? I have a feeling he will end up in the top 8 mids.

    Weary · 23/03/2015 at 17:29

    Yep, highly considering. An absolute workhorse who can do it all. If Watson is banned I’ll be bringing him in I reckon.

      PDP · 24/03/2015 at 10:37

      How could anyone consider bringing in any Bomber who has not played the NAB cup series.
      I was told that the Bombers will receive six months backdated from 13 November which equates them missing the first four or five games.

    Sam Loy · 23/03/2015 at 17:34

    Shhhh. Don't tell everyone or else they'll want him too.

      Kev · 23/03/2015 at 17:49

      Not very community minded of you, Sam

        Sam Loy · 23/03/2015 at 20:01

        Ah, now I feel guilty.
        Sorry community.
        Sorry CrouchingOne.

        I most definitely have Parker in as my M3. Have done since I read LekDog's very convincing argument for him, and swapped Barlow out to make room.

    Danners16 · 23/03/2015 at 17:59

    A good POD option, might have a bigger role with Jack injured

    @RagingBulls34 · 23/03/2015 at 19:28

    People saying POD option, but he is in more teams than JPK. Roughly 8.5% each.

      Sh00ter · 24/03/2015 at 13:30

      Makes both PODS

    chrissovan · 23/03/2015 at 19:31

    Yes! He’s a hunter gatherer and hungry for the ball like Fyfe

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:00

    Thanks TCA.

    Had Parker in my midfield all pre-season. He's locked and loaded for Round 1 for me.

Morse · 23/03/2015 at 17:26

F ing brilliant Barron……

Brilliant work and now probably the most valuable tool we will have to use in the next 10 days.

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:01

    Thanks Morse, hope it helps you nail your rookie picks!

JJFYZZ · 23/03/2015 at 17:44

BVC Thank you. You're much better value than NVB. This along with the updated rookie cheat sheets will be like manna from heaven.

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:01

    Haha, thanks JJFYZZ, but it probably wasn't that hard to be better value than NVB this off-season!

Kev · 23/03/2015 at 17:51

I'm running OS X at home but I'm sure it's brilliant, Barron. Appreciate the work you put in for the community.

    Dino · 23/03/2015 at 20:50

    Using the same platform. If it was in PDF it would be great.

      boostboy76 · 23/03/2015 at 22:19

      Works fine with Office for Mac 2011

      yurkins · 23/03/2015 at 22:27

      yep pdf would be great

fuzzball · 23/03/2015 at 17:57

What happened to Cam McCarthy {GWS} thought he would be on this list for forwards

    Patch · 23/03/2015 at 19:53

    Above 200k, so along with Cripps he isn't on the sheet.

    Although with that last showing against Sydney, 39 points doesn't cut it in my books. If he'd hit 50 or 60, yes, but 39 just isn't enough for me to spend that much on him.

      Sh00ter · 24/03/2015 at 13:32

      Rookies should be $250<

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:06

    Hi, Fuzzball.

    McCarthy is on the spreadsheet under FWDs

    Cameron McCarthy$210,700GWS471183968.0$365,500$154,800

Danners16 · 23/03/2015 at 17:59

Well done Baz! A very helpful and in depth spreadsheet, a must download.
For others if you want my league you can 449005
Thanks

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:06

    Thanks, Danners.

jmy7 · 23/03/2015 at 18:03

stuff barron. only th is ive got steele in the mid and krakour in the forward, just letting the community know

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:07

    Hi jmy7,

    Yea, they're both dual eligible players, just that Krak came up as a FWD first for me and Steele as a MID.

@themisfitsSC · 23/03/2015 at 19:06

wow fella amazing as always top work

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:07

    Cheers, mate!

@emhoy · 23/03/2015 at 19:13

I like the Tigers McIntosh but am worried he will be replaced with Newman once fit. What does everything think about this JS?

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:08

    It is a worry emhoy, and The Crouching One did just tweet that he doesn't think he'll be lining up for Round 1. Could be a worry.

    @themisfitsSC · 23/03/2015 at 21:16

    yes @crouching just gave me heads up fair chance wont play. newman out ellis more mid time i think he may play..heres to hoping

      jmy7 · 23/03/2015 at 22:59

      we will just have to decide between the players around the 123000 $ mark, and pick the one that lines up rd1

Tom · 23/03/2015 at 19:38

Anybody interested in making a cash league? Doesn't have to be big.

    yurkins · 23/03/2015 at 22:29

    yeah im into one
    need a few more to make it interesting.

    @OssieTerron · 24/03/2015 at 08:43

    Yeap

    Paul · 24/03/2015 at 11:10

    Im keen

Mac · 23/03/2015 at 19:40

I see some people are running the D5 structure. I'm thinking of going D1?, Shaw, Gibson, Newnes, Goddard, Saad, Edwards, Hamling. Not sure wether I need a D5 like Goodes. Also, who should I have as my D1? Are Smith and Simpson worth the money?

    Patch · 23/03/2015 at 19:55

    I've had Shaw locked in since day dot. Looks the best pick, with Gibson only a few steps behind. Then it gets trickier. Lek's keen on Jaensch, but if you've got the cash Simpson should be up there. Only problem is you'll pick him up for less than 450k during the year.

    dognino · 23/03/2015 at 19:59

    I'm going Simpson, he's probably just over what he's worth, but I'm paying for the security of his consistent 90+ average and 20+games per season . There's not too many who will average over 90 without missing games to soft tissue injuries or having their long teeth rested.

Tony · 23/03/2015 at 19:51

Wonder if Crouch going down for the Crows gives Wigg a shot at half back with B Smith moving into midfield ?
Maybe another Def rookie to think about

    cow roll · 23/03/2015 at 20:06

    Wigg is a good player but had a nervous start. I see them using CEY as a mid instead.

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:09

    Hi Tony,

    Crouch should be covered OK. Got Thompson out, with CEY looking to cement a spot, as well as guys like Lyons and Grigg who aren't set in the 22 yet, along with Crouch Jr coming back as well. Doubt it'll cause them to bring Wigg up early. As cow roll said, he was looking nervous in the Nth Melbourne game.

RobDog · 23/03/2015 at 20:32

Great work Baron!

Saad and Lambert upgraded now which is good news.

League to join if anyone interested – 940029

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:09

    Thanks, RobDog.

    Ben · 23/03/2015 at 21:40

    By upgraded you mean elevated from the rookie list??

Dino · 23/03/2015 at 20:49

Would be good to get the spreadsheet in pdf format. Can't access it the way it is now.

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:10

    Hi Dino,

    Might have to have a talk with Jock about getting a PDF version up for those who don't have Excel. We'll see what happens.

      yurkins · 23/03/2015 at 22:34

      great idea pdf would really help

      even if it was just basic

    Boo Rad · 23/03/2015 at 21:17

    Hey mate,

    If you don’t have Excel download Google Sheets. It’s free and works just as well.

    Cheers.

Bontemgasmic · 23/03/2015 at 20:52

Loving your great work Baron, excellent data

what would make this data even more useful is the TOG% per player per game

did the 52 Lachie Dalgleish scored in NAB1 come from 42% tog while his 106 in NAB2 came from 87% TOG ? etc

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:10

    Hi, Bontemgasmic,

    Good call, we might have to have another edit before the season starts.

Lachie · 23/03/2015 at 20:57

Patrick Cripps or Dom Sheed?

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:10

    Cripps for me.

throttlefinger · 23/03/2015 at 21:01

Barron, usually only do this for news but think this majestic sheet is worth it…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmb0F00YPE

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:25

    Haha, i'll take that as the highest compliment!

George · 23/03/2015 at 21:18

Does anyone know if it's still possible to enter the Jock Reynolds Qualifier Group? Cheers.

liam · 23/03/2015 at 21:18

Wow Barron you astound me. so much work that you are sharing with us all. thanks to you and all the other contributors to this site. we owe you big time. good luck for the crows and your supercoach team

    BarronVonCrow · 23/03/2015 at 21:26

    You're very welcome, Liam. Hopefully we've managed to help you out enough that you have a great year in Supercoach too!

    liam · 23/03/2015 at 21:49

    and Barron for the slow of mind like myself, can you confirm, is the price diff at the start of the first bye? cheers

Sam · 23/03/2015 at 21:32

Thoughts on Brett Goodes?
Not necessarily in context, just want to hear some opinions

    Sam · 23/03/2015 at 21:33

    Great work by the way, loving this article

    Derek · 23/03/2015 at 22:02

    Honest selection and reasonable value. Could make a bit of cash but not enough to put him in just for cash creation. I think he could get 50-70, ok for his price.

    I’m thinking of going with him and downgrading early to the first defence bubble rookie once they emerge, I think he will play and that’s a good start

    Marco_Polo94 · 24/03/2015 at 13:29

    Pretty sure he averaged 90 two seasons ago. He's a steal. Will get elevated if he hasn't already.

liam · 23/03/2015 at 22:27

touk miller at gold coast; can he break into the midfield or find a place in the backline or is he a big chance of the vest?

    Another Mike · 24/03/2015 at 00:23

    On afl website there was mention of Broughton and Saad getting elevated. Nothing on Miller.

      Chris · 24/03/2015 at 01:50

      Miller was taken in the 2nd round of the national draft so is automatically on the senior list.

    Seaford Scouse · 24/03/2015 at 18:56

    Suns talking him up for Rd 1 debut Liam but I think the vest concerns are legitimate, pick with caution.

Tom · 23/03/2015 at 22:28

Note that Barron is using a "magic number" here of 5375 which is the starting magic number, the actual magic number decreases rapidly as the season begins down to about 5000. Hence the prices given are about 7.5% above what they will actually achieve. In addition, as each player's actual price approaches their implied price (as they go up in value), the price growth rate slows and never actually reaches the theoretical price (it approaches an asymptote). As such, after 10 rounds, the actual price will be roughly $20k short of the implied price.

    Gold Rush · 24/03/2015 at 11:09

    Is your name Tom Higginbotham by any chance? I s Narelle your Mum?

    Seaford Scouse · 24/03/2015 at 19:07

    Amazing Tom!

    Can you clarify that there is actual more ‘value’ to be had from rookies than premiums all other things being equal as the inflated initial price of 7.5% would in theory then impact them less from an overall cash perspective (e.g.; $100k X 7.5% = $7.5k, $500k X 7.5% = $37.5k)

    Cheers

      Tom · 24/03/2015 at 20:56

      Correct, all players are priced to average roughly 7.5 to 8% more than their previous year's average. This is so the sum of all players' prices across the entire competition stays constant throughout the year. As rookies gain value, the only way to maintain the total player values is for the established players to all decrease slightly in value. This is why most players, even when they increase their scoring average will drop slightly in price. For example, if Gary Ablett maintains his average of 136.7, he will drop to about $693k by round 10.
      Rookies do not have an "inflated" value as such as their price is not based on any previous average but they do have more value as they are not subject to the 7.5% disadvantage of their experienced colleagues.
      This concept is important to remember for mid-pricers in particular, they will not rise in value as much as expected and should not be used as cash cows unless you are confident they will increase their scoring average significantly. For example, Tom Bellchambers price of $304k is based on an average of 56.2. In order to make $150k in the first 10 rounds he will have to average 93 (more than 7 points higher than his previous best average). For a rookie priced at $124, the same price gain only requires an average of 56. Putting aside other advantages such as better scoring, ruck cover etc, a rookie is a far better bet in terms of cash generation than an experienced player.

Phil · 23/03/2015 at 22:42

Since I don't have spreadsheets I was wondering if someone could give me Ben Newtons average and tog after 3 games?

    Bonters · 23/03/2015 at 23:27

    not sure about TOG but he had scores of 55, 84 and 65 for an average of 68

    Seaford Scouse · 24/03/2015 at 19:09

    You can grab the tog (and scores and stats) from fanfooty Phil. Just click on the games he’s played in at the top.

Jayden · 24/03/2015 at 00:21

Cripps/Newton/Sheed gotta pick 2 of them Cripps is locked in not sure between the other 2

    Northerner · 24/03/2015 at 05:50

    sheed

      donkey on the edge · 25/03/2015 at 10:01

      Definitely Sheed

CVT · 24/03/2015 at 01:47

Dangerfield or Parker? It’s been my debate for so long now!

    Seaford Scouse · 24/03/2015 at 19:11

    Hmm too many question marks on Dangers role for me CVT can see him playing more forward unless he stays and signs up quick smart. Parker for me.

    Marco_Polo94 · 25/03/2015 at 10:25

    Hmmmm. Tough. Danger played FF in their last nab game and he STILL racked up 120 SC points. I've got a feeling he will reach super premium output this season and be back to his best. But it would require plums I don't have. Parker is certainly a safer option.

Mac · 24/03/2015 at 07:33

With Crouch going down, does that mean Brodie Smith will have more chance to play in the midfield?

    @BarronVonCrow · 24/03/2015 at 17:44

    He was playing further up the field in the NAB already, so I don't think Crouch being injured will have much of an impact on him at this stage.

DJJ · 24/03/2015 at 08:17

Will you be posting any more Cheat Sheets lads?

@thecowza · 24/03/2015 at 08:47

Ben Lennon would be an interesting rookie pick.. should play every game this season.. 180k scores of 73,77,48 in th NAB

    Worm · 24/03/2015 at 09:12

    this info has sparked an interest in Lennon for me as well (thanks Barron), just hoping you are right about him playing every game (and hopefully not too many snot vests). Would expect him to be a more consistent scorer than Salem, even if they average about the same.

I N Pieman · 24/03/2015 at 09:12

Brilliant Baron. Great to see Saad & Lambert get upgraded yesterday. Adam Oxley is an interesting one. He looked pretty good the other night. He didn't have any mates either. Big chance for round one.

    @BarronVonCrow · 24/03/2015 at 17:44

    Oxley is an interesting one, didn't have him up high at the start of the pre-season, but if he plays he could make my team.

TigerArmy · 24/03/2015 at 09:44

Great reference piece Baron….quick question: How many tigers is too many? Looking at T.Hunt, K.McIntosh, Cotch, Lambert, Maric, Deledio, Martin & Lennon …. all offering such great VALUE (although I'll admit may bleed yellow and black).

    @thecowza · 24/03/2015 at 12:37

    8 is way to many! Should be looking at 3-4. I'd probably go Martin, Lambert and Maric, then if you're keen Cotch or Hunt as a POD.

      TigerArmy · 24/03/2015 at 14:46

      @thecowza You think Bennell or Bont is to outscore/average Lids?

        @thecowza · 24/03/2015 at 15:34

        I think Bennell and Bont are both good Value, but if your looking at a player similar price to Lid's i'd probably go with Bartel.

    derek · 24/03/2015 at 13:00

    they do have a great start to the year.

      Marco_Polo94 · 24/03/2015 at 13:36

      First round bye, beware

    Seaford Scouse · 24/03/2015 at 19:17

    Leave your colours in the SC outer mate. If you find it tough puck your team without ANY players from your team then argue a case to get them in over those on the field already. Also bear in mind that there is a limit on points per game to be distributed and that this often affects how many top scorers you get in one team, especially one that’s unlikely to finish top 4. 3-4 is good advice for a limit.

Spifficator · 24/03/2015 at 10:06

I have created a league for fellow Jockstera – Y Fronts 814737. All welcome

Chuck · 24/03/2015 at 12:43

Hey Fella's

Just wondering about Martin or Deledio? whose the better option?

    Blueprime · 24/03/2015 at 14:54

    Delidio.

    Phil · 24/03/2015 at 15:30

    Martin

    Will · 24/03/2015 at 16:22

    Toss a coin..

    Seaford Scouse · 24/03/2015 at 19:19

    Martin has the higher ceiling but more risk, depends on what your looking for out of the choice Chuck. Safe and consistent go lids, risky variances but potential breakout with more mid time? Go dusty

jim · 24/03/2015 at 15:46

Has anybody got any thoughts on A Young from Port? Mid/fwd, $244, Ave 90+ during NAB?

Will · 24/03/2015 at 16:16

Would have thought Cripps, Van Berlo, De Goey, Newton, Sheed, O'rourke Etc would have been included, even though they are above 200k (slightly). Almost every team will have at least one of these 200k rookies in there team so would have been useful if they were included.

    @BarronVonCrow · 24/03/2015 at 17:46

    They're all included under the MID worksheet, Will.

Jimmy Joe · 24/03/2015 at 20:52

Hey there community! I keep fiddling when I should just leave it alone. I feel like a 15 year old again! My current dilemma is running one of either Rich or Newton at M6 with Cripps and Heeney at M7 and 8. What are your thoughts? Should I save the money and put Newton in or go with an in form Rich?

My current M1-5 is: Pendles, Fyfe, Beams, Parker, Boak.

Thanks folks. Happy Tuesday!

    donkey on the edge · 25/03/2015 at 09:54

    i had the same issue, but looking across the bigger picture I think rich will have the higher ceiling and will either become a keeper or a trade option to one. Newton couldn't get into the Port side hence his move so we are not entirely sure how he will go against real opposition in real games, particularly against the elite midfielders. Rich is proven and I think will return to the output we saw prior to his injury.

    In saying that, if you want to save the cash and go with a 200k+ rookie then I would prefer Dom Sheed (WCE) over Newton. He is slightly more expensive at $214,500 but I think there is more value in him than Newton.

    M1-5 look good although Im more a fan of Ollie Wines than Boak but thats just a personal preference thing

    Good Luck

      donkey on the edge · 25/03/2015 at 09:58

      my bad meant Sheed is slightly cheaper ($500)

@Aurnen23Jordan · 24/03/2015 at 21:29

Deadset Legend

Tyler · 24/03/2015 at 21:55

Just went onto a quick website that lets you convert files, so here's a pdf version of the spreadsheet. Not as good as the excel version, but better than nothing:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u10hrn1s0aaqk9x/RookieW

    yurkins · 24/03/2015 at 23:12

    great work thanks

Mick · 25/03/2015 at 11:37

New league #919262

Corz · 26/03/2015 at 01:13

Nice piece of work Barron; DPP status would have been a big bonus though.

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