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PODCAST: Preseason episode 10

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Supercoach 2015

NAB Challenge DONE – and we learnt a hell of a lot in the last weekend of games.

The two major points of discussion are the Gary Ablett situation – and also the defence rookie relief that the Supercoach Gods appeared to have bestowed upon us.
This next fortnight will not be easy. I urge you stay calm – to do your research – plan for contingencies – and get stuck into this week’s podcast like nobodies business.

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PreviouslyOnLost

Heya Jock!

Will there be a Div 3 league this year??

KJU FC

Thoughts on James Kelly? Scored 100 today

pauly walnuts

kelly 30k more than taylor , similar output me thinks ,I will use the 30k elsewhere

Fan of Bonters

should be more consistent than Taylor tho

Sarah

I've got him in my team!

James

Hey community,

Do we keep Nick Nat or look for an upgrade?
Looked quiet under done tonight. Thoughts?

cow roll

keep but watch. good value but inconsistent player.
at his height, only Jacob and Sandi can match him.

Danners16

If you have the money, it might be worth upgrading him. He has Lycett there fighting for a spot as well

@emhoy

Wise words from a friend today I am going to keep him, even if he averages 85 for first few rounds he is still good value and has a high ceiling.

ThePunchingBag

I just traded him. Very much under done. Looking at Will Minson as my 2nd ruck

jim

Brilliant boys

sean

Pick 2 out of
Bartel, Gray, Martin…

jim

Gray and Martin Just

Keaton marin

I had gray and dusty but have wanted all 3 for weeks. Just went swan to bartel today so got all 3 for now.

Marco_Polo94

ahaha did the same a week ago. And it looks bloody good!

Fan of Bonters

Gray and Bartel

Danners16

Gray and Bartel, seems like Bartel has wound back the clock

@RyanRhino14

What do you guys reckon is the better combo?
Gray and Wells with 36,700 left or Priddis and Bellchambers with 86,300 left

jmy7

gray and wells, youll loose your money on bellchambers anyways probably

Declan

Gray and wells mate, although i like priddis, bellchambers looks like he'll only average 80 odd

Jack

Joel Selwood, Rory Sloane or Matt Priddis. Pick 2?

carlashirley90

Selwood and Priddis

James

Selwood and Sloane for me

cow roll

yes

TigerTuff

Selwood & Sloane

Danners16

Sloane and Priddis, I think the scaling will probably affect Selwood, could be bought cheaper in the bye rounds

Fan of Bonters

hahahhaha the Pyanmanese children's stories are so great

James

Goldstein/Lids/Cripps OR Wines/Swan/Bellchambers

Blueprime

1.

@t_woof

Definitely trio 1.

Danners16

Goldstein/Lids/Cripps, less risk

Jayden

Pat crips or dan rich? Rookie mids piling up In my team

Danners16

Cripps

jimmydowland

once again, another cracking podcast. on ya boys

Motsy

Got a few 1v1s here:

Thumper vs Ibbo?

Swallow vs wells + money elsewhere? – M5.

Higgins vs Lumumba?

Blueprime

Ibbo, Swallow,neither

Scrofl

Ibbo, Wells, Lumumba

Jim

Pick two out of James Kelly, Enright and Hibberd :))))

yurkins

kelly and hibbo

Jim

Yep thats what I'm thinking at the moment

Foxy

'Some say I have dementia… But at least I don't have dementia.'
Priceless, Jock. Truly priceless

Cuddlz

Wells or rich guys??

Danners16

Rich, doing well in Hanley's role

wazza

is bellchambers playing round one?

Cezza93

sentence gets passed down early next week, until then its up in the air.

wazza

cheers need him for ruck coverage and decent fwd prospect

Rod

goddard or bartel??

Blueprime

2.

NateCrows

bartel.

Dee

Jimmy…

Ricky

Boys, sorting out some sort of team structure,

What’s everyone’s thoughts on this light n easy mid?

Ablett, dangerfield, kenedy, pendles, rich, Newton, Cripps, rookie (ellis yolmen/heeny or vandenberg)

So is that mid too weak?

PJ8

Would like to see M5 stronger, see if you can re-structure elsewhere then get another premo in M5 and make Rich M6.

It's important to go stong in the MID, thats your main scoring area

Rod

Nic Nat or Minson?? This is for R2

PJ8

Tough one Rod. I have NicNat but not sure after watching him. Minson huge POD go him

Redgumwon

I've gone for Goldy and Maric

Bill

Langdon or Ibbo?

Andrew

Langdon

Andrew

I really like the cheat sheets as they give me some food for thought for rookies, and premos (not so much mid-pricers as I don't particularly use mid-pricers), so, are there gonna me more versions released closer to the lockout?

PJ8

Your exactly right, the cheat sheets are a gold mine for people who don't have foxfooty and can't watch the NAB. By far my fav SC tool on here.
For memory over the past 2 years there has been up to 3 versions of each. I would be very surprised if there wasn't another 1 of each.

throttlefinger

Dementia bit was gold, gents. Spit out me morning pancakes over that one.

Leaning no Gaz. 130 is a lot to ask. If he was cheaper, I'd roll the dice. And shoulder injuries nothing to sneeze at. Easier draw makes decision easier as he won't be needed as much.

One thing I took away from NAB 3 round is that the SC Gods may grant us 3 starting DEF rooks. Have Goodes as D4 now. Hoping to kick to the curb for a rook. Make my mids even juicier.

derek

the fact that Suns are playing two easy teams to start is making me keep gaz in my team. If he plays he will score 200, he just won't be able to help himself.

Dig Dug

Or he'll be red vested and introduced slowly

Dee

If you think he'll get vested then don't put him in your team, he'll drop in value and pick him up Round 3 or 4 for a cheaper price…. So hard to press the trade button on him tho. Eade said he should be ready to play Round 1. I bloody hope so….

Borko

Some serious mid priced madness taking place on SEN right now … So-called ‘expert’ from SC Paige. Misguided advice to the masses methinks … Newnes at d1, griffin at m3? #getjockinthestudio

shezza

Yeah heard Damon. He picked a weak team and left Ablett out

PJ8

Wouldn't surprise me if they misguide everyone because they want to take out as much SC opposition as they can to try win for themselves.

This community is the greatest, selfless and hilarious

Jack

Newnes at D1? That’s bold. Newnes is my D5 lol

Keg

I’ve just traded out wells, rich and swan for wines, jimmy and heeney

Means I have 1 rookie (Ellis-y, heeney, lambert or Steele at this stage) starting each week.

Thoughts?
Ps- swan / jimmy in forwards

@t_woof

Excellent podcast lads!!

Crouching's Pyan Ma stories are so good. Had me in stitches again this weekend.

Enjoy the week ahead community!

Andrew

Scott Selwood$433,100. Only played todays game but scored 117 with 63% TOG. That is a very, very good return game considering the TOG. Thoughts?

PJ8

Would be a massive POD. Averaged 104 in '12 and '13 then even though missed a big chunk of last year didn't start the year well with only 3 tons in the first 11 games.

So has averaged well in the past but over those 2 years scoring of 140,70,80,130,70,80 etc. was how he got there, rather more consistently in the MID and i can't see the Eagles being a great side, can see him being inconsistent throughout this year and perhaps average 90. No doubt will bob up every now and then and score big as his history shows and as he did yesterday.

No for mine, but just my take on him.

Patch

He's taken the tagging role for a long time at West Coast, so be wary of that when looking at him. He scores better than most taggers, but most taggers average 70 so it isn't saying much. He presents value but much more value can be found in Rich or Wells, and even around that price range you've got Judd and Neale who I'd feel safer with.

Jim

I think that was his older brother who was the tagger?

Paul

Newton or Cripps? Also Will Steele get early games? Who would you rather have out of Steele and Heeney?I can sub Steele forward and give Hogan the flick, since he hasn't done much.

PJ8

I have Newton and Cripps, try get both as they look to generate fast cash and have had multiple years in the system rather than first year rookies. If had to pick one i would go Newton.

Can't see Steele getting games at the moment, hope he does. Heeney over Steele by a street.

I would out Steele and keep Hogan, yes Hogan is a KPP but has great JS and will make money easy.

tom

JPK or Parker?

PJ8

JPK

Marco_Polo94

Aston Martin or Ferrari?

The bont

Help please ??

Bontempelli or langford ?

2 of the following 3 : goddard, martin, bartel

Thankyou ! 🙂

dellagz

bontempelli
Martin & Jimmy

PJ8

Bont
Martin, Bartel

I N Pieman

Great Pod gents & a huge weekend of fantasy footy. Saw exactly why Melbourne offered pick 2 for Isaac Heeney. Locked into my mids now. Cripps looks like a very solid mid pick. Kamdyn Macintosh did his chances for round 1 no harm. I like the fact Mitch Clarke pinch hit in the Ruck, he's a lock. Brett Goodes a late bolter for mid price selection down back. Little concerned his opposition was putrid. So much to ponder between now & round 1.

Pauly Walnuts

Wise words Pie Man about Goodes ! Still a Rookie ?

Sarah

Hi INP. Shame the crows defensive rookies are unlikely to get a gig round 1… however Ellis-Yoleman has looked awesome during the preseason. At $123k he is locked onto my midfield bench and you should get on him too!!

Ryan K

Rich or Newton?

Rich is my M6 and have Cripps at M7 already.

Cezza93

I dont see Rich being a top 15 mid this year with that kind of company (beams, rockliff, christensen, redden). And if Newton is named Rd1 he will surely go up in more value then Rich.

Marco_Polo94

Fantastic Pod, did well to cram that much information in. Absolutely lost it over jocks dementia comment aha.

I'm not fussed about Nic nats low score. However a few things concerned me. Up until Lycett got subbed off I'm pretty sure he attended more ruck contests then Nic Nat. Is this a sign for the season? Also how did he look? Was he running hard looking fit and healthy, or did he seem a little off the pace? I'm a little nervy about selecting NN now but part of me wants to keep him, because I see a lot of people jumping off him.

I love the fact Neale had an average hit out, I reckon people might not want to lock him in now. If he had another 30 possession game every man and his dog would have jumped on him. Little worried about his consistency but I'm willing to gamble that worst case scenario, he will appreciate enough to jump to a fallen premo.

Swan lock still. Love him. Toyed with a Martin Bartel Gray forward line, but I think there is too much value in swan to leave him out.

Bellchambers is an interesting case.. Who has the plums to select him? Barring asada, I think he's still a good pick as I see him averaging 80+. Can't stress how crucial that ruck/forward swing will be when one of our rucks goes down.

Don't think I'm going to start with Gaz even if he starts round one. Saw a stat on freako that said last time he was Injured his first 5 games back he averaged about 100. Might be reading too much into it, but there's enough doubt there to not risk a $730 k player.

Phil

Some good points Marco and agree with NicNat and Ablett, i think they're both too risky for one reason or another and as such won't make my team.

I was never really interested in Neale but mainly because I'm a Gun/Rookie strategy when it comes to my midfield. Having said that out of all the mid pricers I like him best and wouldn't be put off by his game on the weekend. Between him Wells & Rich I believe all 3 will be okay, and not hurt you if you select (or don't select) them.

Swan is an interesting one. Sure he's cheap but he still needs to average 100+ to be worthwhile. Bontempelli has spiked my interest. He averaged the same as Wines did in his 1st year, then Wines went 100 in 2nd. Can Bonts follow?
Really like Bellchambers. I see no reason at all that he can't average 85 if fit. He's done it before, he's still young for a ruckman and amazingly he is a pod. And of course the R/F swing.

Marco

Is worrying bellchambers hasn’t played a nab game tho (right?). Just makes it a risk. I mean look at nic NAT. He was locked in everyone’s team. Then a bit of unrest missing the first two nab games. One average game against sandilands and everyone is jumping ship. Part of me thinks I should just go two Premos and negate all risk

cow roll

If it's too much risk, go premium then trade down to NN when he's starting to play like a premo. Or you can go with a ruck around NN's price then trade sideways.

derek

I was watching NN closely all game, I saw him skipping and dancing on his toes a lot, almost like he was tring too hard to look fit and healthy, hear what I'm saying? he did seem out of position a lot, in fact he picked up a few cheap poss as he was jogging around the park looking for his opponent. I have put a line through him

Marco_Polo94

hmmm if that's the case I'm not rolling the dice with him

The bont

What do you guys think of lycett as 2nd ruckman ? Or just stick with nic nat

derek

don't like the idea of any of my rucks sharing the role. I want Lone wolves. I would even consider Pyke or Hickey ahead of lyctt because of that.

cow roll

He will be the lone wolf but whether he has fully recovered is another issue.

bangles

is it worth having lycett in my FWD line providing cover for rucks?

Luke Ellingsen

Is any one going to go zac smith for a ruck option

Cezza93

No for me, Nicholls and Smith are both very achieved ruckman they will steal one anothers scores through my eyes.

Cezza93

Any Idea of where Birchall is at?

Worm

Hawks injury list on AFL website updated today and still has him at 1-2 weeks. Guess he is still some chance for Round 1, but has me looking at other options

derek

Birchall has been full training for 2 weeks, he will play round 1.

Worm

Good news! Thanks Derek

Cezza93

Champion, thanks mate

Worm

Like the mention of Marley Williams, Higgo! Underrated player, excellent one on one. That said, not sure he will be used in a role where he can average more than about 80. But outside of Fantasy, think he will have a great year!

Dwain

Does anyone have the go-nads to select buddy franklin as captain round 1 if the Essendon players receive a ban?

Worm

have him pencilled in as VC loophole option, bans or not…

tom mitchell

So im very happy with my team with 120k left over
whats everyones thoughts

Def
H Shaw, Hibberd, Newnes
Kolodasnij, Lever, Byrnes Rainbow, Saad

Mid:
Pendles, Priddis, Sloane, Boak
JPK, P Cripps, J Anderson, Heeney Van Den berg, freeman, Miller

Ruck
Goldstein, Minson (O'brien)

fwd:
Gray, Bennell, Swan
Bellchambers, Hogan, Salem Clark, daniel

Gold Rush

Reckon 6 of your Rookies will not play round 1, that will be sorted out soon.

derek

not even looking at your rookies, that will be sorted out next week.

What does your "Ablett" team look like?

Like your three RUC. solid big men.
DEF is ok, nothing to risky or flashy, honest.
MIDS without either Fyfe or Selwood you might be 1 ultra premo short.
FWD: I rekon if you have goldy and minson in ruck you don't need Bellchambers as back up, ditch him and get a proper player!

Spifflicators

Is Cameron at approx $320 a better target for the Bruyn manoeuvre than Jack? He has done a full preseason, has a soft start, kicked 5 against Sydney and is $120k cheaper.

Thoughts on using him at F3/4

NateCrows

good POD. He just signed for 5 years or something too. so nothing over his head all about the footy

Rawkus11

Great POD, wish i had the balls to do it but will stick with guns/rooks

NateCrows

Gaz not playing any NAB games means to me he no longer holds the lock category. 700K+ is too much for someone who hasn't played a games in NAB. Will be underdone if he does indeed play. But, then his scoring output will surely drop in first 1-5 rounds and so will $$$

This then leaves me with a choice to upgrade two players and downgrade to wells in the middle and and upgrades tom lynch to dusty and nic nat to the ivan mullet man, This slightly modifies then mid structure. putting griffen into M4 instead of 5. Looks like i will run with wells, cripps, vanden berg and broekhorst

If he plays im worried as he could be as fresh as a newborn ass and pip out a 200.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

thoughts????

GoonerSam#44

Hey guys thoughts on my team I have $101,300 left the treasure chest?!

DEF N Malceski, K Simpson, H Shaw, J Newnes, T Langdon, S Edwards (H Goodard, A Saad)

MID G Ablett, T Rockliff, N Fyfe, R Griffen, P Cripps,I Heeney, B Boekhurst, A Vandenberg (J Anderson, C Ellis-Yoelman, J Steele)

RUC S Mumford, T Goldstein (T Read)

FWD B Delidio, D Martin, D Swan, C Salem, M Clark, K Lambert (J Hogan, N Krakouer)

I'm troubled with GAJ if I should keep him cos of being maybe in doubt for round 1?
Also I'm not sure if 4 good quality experienced midfielders like Ablett Rockliff Fyfe Griffen will be enough? So should I go with an M4 or M5? Please help me out that would be great

Phil

i like your Forwards and Rucks, but as far as the other lines go ditch Gaz for a cheaper safe premium like Selwood/Pendlebury and then you wanna ditch Boekhurst for another premium. To fund it downgrade 2 of your defenders. Goodes (if promoted) should give you similar (or only slightly less) than any of your defenders for 200k less.

shezza

This is one of the best teams I’ve seen.

Jezza

Looking for alternatives now that Ablett hasnt had a proper hit out during the NAB. 730k is just too much risk, and I've started planning my side without him in it. Not having him in my side actually allows me to put some more cash into my rucks and leave them almost for the entire season (barring injury).

Depending on whether or not he's named round one, here is what my non-Ablett team looks like:

MIDS: Pendles, Selwood, JPK, Priddis, Lewis, Newton, Cripps, Ellis-Yolmen

Rucks: Goldy, Maric

If he does play however, here's what my team will look like instead:

MIDS: Ablett, Pendles, JPK, Priddis, Lewis, Newton, Cripps, Ellis-Yolmen

Rucks: Maric, Minson

Thoughts?

Daniel Murphy

Hi Guys. Who do I have as me R2? seriously considering
the big "russian" Mark Jamar thoughts?

Jesse Levesque

I like him can see him averaging 80 – 90 this year

James DUncan

Daniel Gorringe? worth it

Redgumwon

No

Worm

Saad promoted – happy days!

Paul

Bontempelli or Swan? I know Swan is a proven premo, but, Swan is getting older and I don't know if he will score well. Bont on the other hand, is young, and he looks very good…

Thoughts?

Wayne

been discussing this on another site. Swan looked totally disinterested against doggies. believe he will play HF and not through mids as lacking run. Therefore likely 90-95 pt player. Bont was stunning last weekend and looks like another Pendles. He will lack consistency and likely pick up tagger but his style of go and get it game and ability to shrug of the tackle will score well in SC.
I have gone Bont and dropped Swan. i figure if swan does string a couple of games together I can bring him in later,

pauly walnuts

W.Minson – I'm considering him at R2 but what are peoples thoughts on him getting the tap only for it to be sharked by the better midfields in the comp ? Will this will impact his score with the new scoring system ? No Libba also ? Do we go for Rucks in the stronger sides with gun mids ? The position is doing my head in !!

Phil

Newton reminds me very much of Viv Michie last year….Anyone else?

Phil

Mature aged big body midfielder, absolute gun who couldn't break into his own side because he played for a Top4 team with a plethora of talented midfielders, dominated arguably the second strongest league in the country (SANFL/WAFL) and now he's moved to a bottom four team where he's gonna start on the ball every week and smash out the 100's. He's also had a great NAB cup.
Deja vu?

GoonerSam#44

hey everyone I've just seen on SuperCoach that GAJ has got a little red and white cross next to his name so it looks like he is injured for a bit :/

Rawkus11

"subject to fitness test" No new news there

Mitch

Dont see the Bont in many teams
Im tossing up between him and T.Mitchell
If Mitchell starts round 1 Im thinking he will have a massive year but not sure if Bont can keep it up all year possibly copping a tag with libba out

Bako

Scooter or Coniglio?
Also is Phil Davis a decent back line option? Would 2 giants in the defence be too much? What has he previously averaged?