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2015 Supercoach Rookie Watch List – RUCKS V2

Published by Jock on

Barron Von Crow - inner sanctumThere’s been some interesting developments in the rookie ruck department, with more than a few rookie priced rucks being given some run during the NAB games.

The issue still is that none of them look like having particular strong job security, or scoring potential and for many people, selecting a playing ruck will interfere with structural and loophole strategies. Still, lets see what’s on offer.

The following changes have been made from v1 to v2, so if you don’t feel like scrolling through the whole thing again, just CTRL+F the following names and see what we’ve added/updated.

V2 Changes:

  • Added Reilly O’Brien to “Potential Watchlist”
  •  Added Archie Smith to “Maybe Later”
  •  Added Paidrag Lucey to “Maybe Later”
  •  Added Thomas Downie to “Maybe Later”
  • Added Marc Pittonet to “Maybe Later”
  • Added Jason Holmes to “Maybe Later”
  • Added Keegan Brooksby to “Potential Watchlist”
  • Updated info for Toby Nankervis
  • Updated info for Sam Naismith
  • Updated info for Thomas Downie
  • Updated info for Andrew Phillips
  • Updated info for Jarred Redden



Note: All players are sorted by price (lowest to highest) and then alphabetically by last name. 



No standouts at this point!




Keegan Brooksby – Gold Coast – $102,400

  • Looks like he’s battling Tom Nicholls for the backup ruck spot.
  • UPDATED 01/03 – Brooksby played against the Cats and had 7 disposals, 3 marks and 8 hitouts for 53 Supercoach Points. Only had 53% TOG.
  • UPDATED 07/03 – Playing in a Suns side with both Zac Smith and Tom Nicholls, Brooksby had 8 disposals and 7 hitouts for 36 Supercoach Points. All 3 ruckmen had similar TOG%.

Reilly O’Brien – Adelaide – $117,400

  • With Jacobs slowly returning from a knee injury and Luke Lowden on a modified training program to recover from an injury, O’Brien has been the #1 ruckman for Crows in the pre-season.
  • UPDATED 01/03 – O’Brien took lead ruck duties against Daw and Currie of North Melbourne in the Crows 1st NAB game and had 8 disposals, 3 marks and 14 hitouts for 54 Supercoach Points.
  • UPDATED 10/03 – O’Brien has been named as the lead ruckman again for the Crows game against Geelong, with Jacobs being eased back into a full workload. Head Coach Phil Walsh has said that if O’Brien performs against Geelong he will play him in the Crows 3rd NAB game against Port and will consider him for Round 1 selection if his form demands it.
  • UPDATED 12/03 – Rucked half the game with Jacobs being eased back in. Had 4 disposals and 9 hitouts for 46 Supercoach Points. Still on the rookie list though.

Toby Nankervis – Sydney – $123,900

  • Named as senior emergency 3 times last year, and can swing forward as well as ruck. Swans played Derickx alongside Pyke a fair bit last year, so the question is do the Swans continue with that duo, or try and blood a youngster, or will they go with Pyke as the #1 ruck and have Kurt Tippett as his backup. Derickx is a ham and egger and Pyke wasn’t much better last year either, so they’d probably be wise to give a shot to Nankervis or Naismith.
  • UPDATED 31/01 – Sydney Head Coach John Longmire says “Toby Nankervis has been doing all of the ruck work, he’s a very resilient player, trains all the time and gives himself every opportunity to improve so we’ve been happy with how he’s going.”
  • UPDATED 06/02 – It’s been revealed that Kurt Tippett has been training in the ruck in pre-season, which may be a bad sign for Nankervis and Naismith getting early gametime. They may go into the season with Mike Pyke as the main man and Kurt Tippett providing relief, similar to what he did at Adelaide with Sam Jacobs.
  • UPDATED 06/03 – Nankervis played in the Swans NAB game against Brisbane and 6 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles for 29 Supercoach Points from 68% TOG.

Sam Naismith – Sydney – $150,000

  • Got a token game last year, so he’ll be competing with Nankervis for a backup spot. You’d think Naismith would have the advantage at this stage having debuted last year and being in the system a year longer than Nankervis.
  • UPDATED 31/01 – Sydney Head Coach John Longmire says “Sam Naismith suffered a little bit of glandular fever at the start of his pre-season but he’s over that now and back into training although it’s not the full program so he needs to be doing a number of weeks before he gets his conditioning up to speed but we’re really happy with how he’s bounced back from that illness at the start of pre-season.”
  • UPDATED 06/03 – Naismith also took part in the Swans 1st NAB game against the Lions and had 2 disposals and 14 hitouts for 17 Supercoach Points. Gave away a few frees and had a few clangers which hurt his score.

Rory Lobb – GWS – $176,300

  • Played 2 games last year, but he could get a look in if something happens to Mumford or Cameron. Will maybe compete with McCarthy for a spot.





Paidrag Lucey – Geelong – $102,400

  • Was given half a game against the Suns and had 1 disposal and 5 hitouts for 17 Supercoach Points. Not named to play the Crows.

Marc Pittonet – Hawthorn – $117,300

  • One of the few pure rucks taken in the latest draft. Will be behind a few talls at the Hawks.
  • UPDATED 26/02 – Pittonet was quick to make his AFL debut, playing against Collingwood in the first NAB game and had 3disposals and 1 hitout in 23% TOG for 7 Supercoach Points.
  • UPDATED 08/03 – Pittonet once again played for the Hawks in their game against North and had 1 disposal and 1 hitout in 15% TOG for 14 Supercoach Points. Don’t expect to see him in the AFL this year, Hawks are just giving him some AFL experience.

Thomas Downie – GWS – $123,900

  • Played ruck along with Andrew Phillips against the Gold Coast and had 11 disposals, 3 marks, 12 hitouts and a goal for 79 Supercoach Points. Like Phillips, might not get another chance once Mumford is in. We’ll see.
  • UPDATED 13/03 – Played in the GWS’s 2nd NAB game against Essendon. Came on in the 3rd for Shane Mumford and had 6 disposals and 5 hitouts for 12 Supercoach Points. Only had 31% TOG.

Jason Holmes – $123,900 – St Kilda

  • US convert and brother of Oakland Raiders wide receiver Andre Holmes.
  • UPDATED 28/02 – Holmes made his AFL debut against the Lions, backing up Billy Longer in the ruck. He had 2 disposals and 7 hitouts 21 Supercoach Points.
  • UPDATED 07/03 – More AFL action for Holmes, this time against Essendon. He was once again the backup and had 3 disposals, 2 marks, 10 hitouts and a goal for 40 Supercoach Points. Don’t expect to see him much once the real action starts.

Archie Smith – Brisbane – $123,900

  • Played against St Kilda and had 5 disposals and 8 hitouts for 36 Supercoach Points. Was backup ruck for Luey and was out of the side for the Lions 2nd NAB game against Sydney once Stefan Martin returned.

Andrew Phillips – GWS – $210,700

  • Phillips played lead ruck duties for the GWS against the Gold Coast and had 9 disposals, 2 marks and 18 hitouts for 79 Supercoach Points. That will go down once Mumford is in the side, so not likely worth the price.
  • UPDATED 13/03 – Played a large chunk of the game in the ruck against Essendon and had 3 disposals, 4 tackles and 19 hitouts for 43 Supercoach Points. Remains to be seen if GWS play a backup ruck or let it to a ruck/fwd swing to play behind Mumford.

Jarrad Redden – $216,100

  • UPDATED 03/03 – Ports head of high performance Darren Burgess says “The last six weeks has been outstanding, he’s been in full ruck-contact drills and doing really well,” Burgess said. We expect him to play some part in the NAB Challenge.”
  • UPDATED 12/03 – Redden, who last played a game of senior football 651 days ago, has been named in the Powers NAB lineup to take on Richmond.

As always, if you see any names you think should be added or removed or have any news /information you’d think the community should know about, please let us know in the comments below.


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Thoughts please community

DEF: Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Gibson, Goddard, Edwards, Saad, Viojo-Rainbow
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Sloane, Griffin, Newton, Boekhorst, Laverde, Ellis-Yolmen, Steele, Krakouer
RUC: Goldy, Nic Nat, Read
FWD: Gray, Martin, Swan, Clark, Hogan, Daniel, Lambert, Lonie

$184,000 left. Not sure what do to with it.


Backline is too weak as you can’t guarantee your deffense will have 2 of the 4 rookies names playe each week


What do you suggest I do mate?


I would look to drop either Sloane or Griffen from the team perhaps and use that money to upgrade in the backline to either 1 more prem or perhaps 2 mid price options. In my mind there is more upside and value with Griffen than Sloane. Sloane is a great POD, but he also has the first bye so you can avoid 1 premium donut by trading him in at round 12.


gotta invest that $184k into your team otherwise you just got cash floating around that isn't earning anything.
if you put that money into a player and their price increases, then you'll have more than $184k if you choose to sell them

Pauly Walnuts

Gents, The Barron has done an excellent job with this post, we should be talking this and not Teams

Muddie moose

Very true Pauly
The Barron has done an awesome job all pre season with all his articles and he’s rookie watch sheets are awesome


Hey guys, sorry it's a bit off topic, but where is the feed for posting our teams?


Cheers moit


Need help guys!!
Considering Tom Bellchambers or Christian Salem for F4. Bellchambers should be the number one ruck man at the bombers and is that handy swing player with my bench option. Or Salem who may have a breakout year this year, and that giving me money to upgrade my D5 option. Anything from you guys would be great.


I think it comes down to what you want from the player. For me TBC is not a season long keeper, so then you should be looking at cash generation. And in terms of cash generation i reckon salem will perform better. Just my two cents. Will admit tho the Ruck/Fwd combo looks tempting!


I think ASADA will help assist your decision. Currently my only essendon players are Edwards and Goddard as they will not be affected.


type up 'show us your team' in the search bar in the top right and it's the first one that comes up.


i'll be picking mason cox until another rookie ruck man presents themselves later in the year


I agree I am giving mason cox some serious thought. If one of the young Collingwood ruckman in Grundy or wits go down then cox could get the call up.


Why mason cox?


Because he is at the cheapest cheapest possible price, and has rck/fwd eligibility.


Would rather go read as if he dosnt play then his games are later then the pies for vc loophole


Any chance you could explain the loophole? Read about it a few times but don't follow it….

General Soreness

Chris essentially you select a gun premo playing early preferably Fri night as your VC. If he pumps out a score you would like to keep as your captains score (i.e. double) then you put your non playing player onto the field, i.e. Read and make him captain. Move your playing ruck to the bench, make sure you put the E on your Ruck. When your captain scores 0 the VC score is taken and doubled as your captains score and you get the score of your emergency ruck. I used Rucks in this example but can be used on any line with any non playing player.


What do you do if the VC doesn't get a good score?

General Soreness

Leave your team in its best line up and put the C on your best captains choice.


Okay thanks mate. Can you help me with my team?

Thoughts on my team? $9,600 left in Salary Cap.
DEF: M. Hibberd, H. Shaw, B. Smith, J. Newnes, N. Brown, H. Goddard (S. Edwards, A. Saad).
MID: S. Pendelbury, N. Fyfe, A. Swallow, R. Griffen, L. Neale, J. Steven, B. Boekhorst, I. Heeney (J. Steele, R. Atkins, N. Freeman)
RUCK: N. Naitinui, J. Giles (S. Naismith)
FOR: D. Martin, D. Swan, B. Goddard, L. Dahlhaus, C. Salem, M. Clark (J. Hogan), K. Lambert

General Soreness

Brillsy the positives – rookies are all still subject to R1 selection but all look fine, just watch Atkins. If a rookie presents to replace N Brown take him. I think all your players are solid selections but you have gone a bit too thick on the mid pricers. I do not see Swallow or Steven making top 15 mid fielders and Neale is also a query but may make it. Given the amount of available forward rooks I would downgrade Dahlhaus to a rookie and upgrade Steven to proven premo, I would also use the spare cash to upgrade Giles to Maric or better.


Brillsy I like your team, I reckon stick with your gut on Giles, maybe look at down grading Dahlhaus, although he has been in and out of my team too. You do have a few mid pricers in Neale and Stevens. Hopefully they are good PODS can be consistent scorers. I reckon you need one more premium rather that Swallow. It's a big call not to have Ablett, I reckon you should consider Kennedy, Selwood or Danger or someone of that ilk if your not going with Ablett.

As General Soreness pointed out keep an eye on rookies leading into round 1. Everyone is off Brown, but at such a low price I think that even if he does not score heavily he will rise in price and he is assured of getting a game if he's fit. I think he got 97 on the weekend.


I didn't realize you could change your team around like this during lockout…
How often do people use this loophole, every week?

General Soreness

Every single week.


Good work GS


Cox isent the best pick especially for the loophole


Any chance Peter Wright from GC will get a game early on? Maybe in the forward line??

Pauly Walnuts

Brian, he's on my bench ATM, only because there not much else about. It's an absolute raffle this spot !


Paul, will cost me extra $$$ but may pay off later in the season after using him as the loophole. One of those gambles I suppose.


You won’t see wright getting a game anytime soon…inside word


Agreed, injury prone at the moment and GC are in no rush to get him onto the park. Maybe pick him up at a later stage of the season for another cash generating option.


Whats the deal with read? Why is he being picked in so many teams?

Muddie moose

Hey jack
A lot of us are picking read because he is one of the cheapest ruck-forward swing options and has a good draw where a lot of geelongs match’s are towards the end of a round so we can use him for the cap loophole

Pauly Walnuts

Correct! If you go the 'The Bruyn Manoevre' post on 25/2 , he explains it all, but I have P.Wright


Thoughts on my team? $9,600 left in Salary Cap.
DEF: M. Hibberd, H. Shaw, B. Smith, J. Newnes, N. Brown, H. Goddard (S. Edwards, A. Saad).
MID: S. Pendelbury, N. Fyfe, A. Swallow, R. Griffen, L. Neale, J. Steven, B. Boekhorst, I. Heeney (J. Steele, R. Atkins, N. Freeman)
RUCK: N. Naitinui, J. Giles (S. Naismith)
FOR: D. Martin, D. Swan, B. Goddard, L. Dahlhaus, C. Salem, M. Clark (J. Hogan), K. Lambert

Thanks i'd really appreciate it

sam siddall

Way to many players that aint keepers u need to down grade 1 or to 2 to rooks and up grade others to top prems


Like who?


hasnt Atkins done an injury out for a while


Not sure haha


Im going the the T.Read vc loophole all year keep up the good work barron


I don't think you could pick any swans rookie ruck in the hopes of them actually playing, there is too much competition. Even tippet ' the man of glass' is supposed to be sharing the ruck more this year…..if he can get on the park


Thoughts on my team. $229,100 left in salary cap!
DEF: H. Shaw, M. Hibberd, S. Hurn, J. Newnes, T. Langdon, S. Edwards (A. Saad, H. Goddard)
MID: G. Ablett, S. Pendelbury, N. Fyfe, R. Griffen, A. Swallow, B. Newton, I. Heeney, B. Boekhorst (A. Vandenburg, R. Atkins, N. Freeman)
RUCK: N. Naitinui, M. Leunburger (T. Read)
FWD: D. Martin, B. Goddard, D. Swan, C. Salem, M. Clark, J. Hogan (J. Steele, K. Lambert)

Please help I need it haha

pauly walnuts

inject your 222k into your midfield mate, Griffen is an M5,Swallow M6 IMO,good luck for the season


Much better Brillsy, though I don't trust Leuey and would downgrade Langdon, bring Goddard back in and upgrade Leuey to the best ruck you can afford eg. Goldy or Mummy.


oops sorry, just saw you have Goddard on the bench!
Maybe, dare I say it, N Brown at least until another rookie presents himself.


I downgraded Langdon to Brown then used the cash to upgrade newton to JPK


Well done, Barron. But the only response I have to this selection is simple…


I have 160k and i am happy with the rest of my team. Currently have sloane at M4 and was wondering if it was a good idea to go up to Rockliff or save the money and use it to buy him later in the year. Any thoughts?

Seaford Scouse

Well Tom for me I want to maximise my points on field ASAP so if there is an opportunity to upgrade to a premium or in your case elite then I would be doing it. With rocky whilst it can be argued you can pick him up later for cheaper do you really want to watch him hit a 150 when Sloan struggles to break a ton and you lose your league games by 30 points knowing that you could have invested in the win? If you think you’d still be comfortable in that scenario and your gut says pick him up later then go for it otherwise I’d be backing him and enjoying the extra points. A lot also depends on your trading strategy, make sure you have one and there’s a path to rocky at maximum price in it as there’s no guarantee he’s going to lose value like many seem to think. He’s a beast who only really emerged last year and I think there’s room for improvement still which is scary.


I quite like Dahlhaus I have always believed this guy will be a Elite premium at some point and now that Griffen and Libba are out he will get allot more of the pill and I'm predicting him to average 110 – (Providing he doesn't get injured)
Not to mention a great POD also.

Regarding "A lot also depends on your trading strategy, make sure you have one"
I used to spend countless hours on trying to work out a so called "trading strategy" and in all honesty they NEVER work out, due to injuries that occur throughout the season. I believe there is no such thing as a "trading strategy" unless your Nostradamus.

Jock himself isn't worrying about the bye rounds, so it doesn't effect his initial gut feeling and his starting 30
I'm not sure if you do this but I always write down my team structure changes and in more cases then not over the years of playing SC I found my initial structure or during the first few times of amending my team, I often would have scored better with my early selection as opposed to my final team. (This obviously excludes rookies)

Jock's outlook has a ton of merit behind it, simply because the vast majority of us will be forced to change our initial team structure prior to when the Bye rounds start (Round 11, Round 12 & Round 13)

It took me years to realise this I can assure you. It's honestly extremely likely by the start of the mid season when the Bye rounds start, your team will change dramatically.

However we are all different with our methods and which ever way you choose to go I wish you ALL the best of luck.


thoughts on defense?
Newnes, Ibbotson, Geary, Hunt, Dalgleisch, Jaksch, (Hamling,Saad)


I like these 3 : Newnes, Ibbotson, Geary but is it too risky??


Ablett injury ? Not ready to return? May have some serious worries how he may start! Could re injure it again? Could change our structures without him until he gets some game time and we use Neale for a stepping stone after 4-5 rounds? Am I crazy?

Seaford Scouse

All reports are he will be cherry-ripe for Rd 1 mate. Best pre-season to date and keeps knocking out PBs in time trials. Keep an eye on him though he’s our biggest investment!


Keep a BIG eye on him!

PBs are meaninglessly when you have a shoulder injury. The issue here is his ability to comfortable put his arms up over his shoulders. From the reports, he doesn't have a lot of confidence in that yet. Which is a big concern. Also, this is his first major injury. Psychologically that's a tough thing to get over, especially when it's being done later in your career. Fyfe and Jelwood recoup well last year because they had had major surgeries before.

Good to prepare for the worst. Could be a present in disguise for us SCoachers.


Just when i think I've got my structures locked down! i don't need this rubbish popping up


Gazzzzz!!!!!! Nnooooo


What's happened?


I wouldn't be paying too much concern on what Rocket has to say, put GAJ in and IF he isn't selected to play in Round 1 then you are assured of picking up ANYONE should you wish to change in the last day or so and by doing this your gaurenteed to have cash left over that could potentially help you else where or keep the extra cash in your kitty for a upgrade around 5-6

i think Gaz will play in round 1 and if so its a no brainer LOCK & FORGET for me.


Thoughts anyone?

Def: Hibberd, Houli, Newnes, Langdon, Ibbo, Goddard (McKenzie, Saad)
Mid: Ablett, Beams, JPK, Griffen, Crouch, Swallow, Garlett, Heeney (Boekhorst, Laverde, Steele)
Ruc: Maric, Nic Nat (O'Brien)
Fwd: Bartel, Dusty, Swan, Salem, Clark, Hogan (Daniel, Lambert)


Gaz wont play rd 1 against Melb! Now picking vc & capt is not as predictable.Thats what I loved when he went down last year.


Yeah but on the flip side everyone will now have Rockcliff. I was enjoying having him as a little but of a pod (at least for the first few weeks) as I reckon he is gonna smash it this year


Rocky a gun without doubt but way to over priced for my liking. I will be waiting before I get Rocky even IF GAJ misses the first game.


I'm going to hold onto Gaz. Everyone will trade him out and we he comes back, everyone will burn trades to get him back. Ablett will be a POD aha. Never heard that before


How many people are throwing TBC into R2? tempting with that swing! great write up barron however i still dont feel safe selecting any R3 as a back up. Still think DPP with Read is the best form of security in the rucks.


WHAT about ryder in the forward line can be used as a swap for read if you have an injury with a premium ruck ie nick nat, thats what im considering doing,


I had TBC in my forward line along with Read as my R3 (DPP) for the last 4 months or so but I have decided to go with GOLDY & NIC NAT in the Ruck as my (Lock & forget) and also have D Hale in my forward line as my third Ruck at this stage.

The reason I chose this structure at this point in time is firstly we don't know what the hell is going on with Essendon and to be brutally honest I've had a gut full of this ASADA crap. At least this way if I chose to get TBC (A)- I know I can afford him and (B)- It gives me the extra $90k in cash to upgrade elsewhere.
I cannot see myself having Hale by the time R1 begins, as I would prefer Callum Sinclair compared to Hale but the same applies, as stated above regarding TBC.


Thoughts on my team? I need peoples feedback. Any feedback or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

DEF: Smith, Shaw, Gibson, Newnes, Langdon, Edwards, Goddard, Saad
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Sloane, Griffin, Boekhorst, Vandenberg, Laverde, Ellis-Yolmen, Steele, Krakouer
RUC: Goldstein, Nic Nat, Read
FWD: Gray, Martin, Swan, Clark, Hogan, Lambert, Lonie, Daniel

Not sure wether I have gone too heavy in the backline or not. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.


I like it allot mate, you have a very similar side to myself.

If I had to be particularly picky, I loved Langdon last year as he made me a nice bit of cash, however I prefer Mayes over Langdon this year but who knows, Langdon could end up being a gun and averaging 90+ while Mayes averages only 60's or visa versa.

Follow your gut mate and don't follow what I say unless your gut prefers Mayes over Langdon, the last thing id want is for you to change your mind and it costs you 50k or even 1k for that matter.

Overall I like your side allot.


Selwood or Beams?


Worried new scoring may hit selwoods price. If you are not worried about loosing a little cash on him early he is a better bet.


Thoughts community. Salary Cap $6,600
DEF : Shaw, Hibberd, Newnes, Ibbotson, Edwards, Goddard (Brown, Saad)
MID : Ablett, Fyfe, Selwood, Dangerfield, Griffen, Newton, Boekhorst, CEY (Heeney, Freeman, Steele)
RUC : Minson, Nic Nat (Cox)
FOR : Bartel, Goddard, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clark (Krakouer, Lambert)


HI GUYS, JUST a question
what do you think of this strategy, predominantly ruck cover based
Rucks: Goldstein, Nick Natinui, Bellchambers
Fwds: Ryder or

Rucks: Goldy, Nick Nat, Cox/Read
Fwds: Ryder

is having ryder as Fwd/Ruck to expensive a option
Thank you in advance


Is there any guarantee Bellchambers will play from round 1?